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ryan hours from now. is there common ground to be found? can they make nice? will they be friends? hillary clinton blasting donald trump for refusal to release his tax returns. breaking overnight. george zimmerman is auctioning off the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. you will hear his words ahead. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is thursday, may 12th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. this is a big day on capitol hill for the republican party and donald trump. in hours, donald trump meets with the highest ranking elected official in his party. house speaker paul ryan. a week ago on cnn, ryan refused to endorse the republican nominee yet. now many republicans are pushing ryan to fall in line behind trump or risk fracturing the party. cnn's sara murray has the latest from washington. >> reporter: good morning, john and christine.
will there be party unity in the gop or not so much? today might be the day that finally gives us our best indication so far. this is the day when donald trump is going to be traveling to washington to meet face-to-face with house speaker paul ryan. that is after the house speaker said he wasn't quite ready to fall in line and endorse donald trump. now he said since then the two need to get to know each other a bit. today is an opportunity for them to do that in d.c. what we already have seen is some of trump supporters begun laying the ground work. some supporters on the hill reaching out to ryan. ben carson has spoken to paul ryan. trump has been tweeting more optimistic things about the meeting. >> i think he is a good man and i really think, probably, we'll come out with something that's going to be good. otherwise i'll continue on the path.
>> i met him once in person in 2012. we had a very good conversation in march on the phone. we just need to get to know each other. we as the leadership team, are enjoying the fact we have a chance to meet with him. >> reporter: all of this could be laying the ground work for the two coming out of this saying there is some common ground. we want to reduce the deficit and debt and we want to cut taxes on middle class families. with donald trump, there is always the possibility that it could end on a rocky fashion and could end in fireworks. we should get a better sense of that in a few hours. back to you. >> sara, thank you. donald trump under fire this morning for refusing to promise he will release his tax returns before the november election. several times over the last few years, trump promised to release taxes. since then, he said the returns since 2009 are being audited by the irs. he will not release them until the audit is complete. the audit does not prevent you. the irs says trump is free to do
so. trump says he has no plans to do so or push his lawyers on the subject before november. >> if you were my client and under audit, i would say don't release them. there may be some information. >> if there are, they are meaningless. at the right time, i'll release them. i hope to release them. i would like to release them. when i'm under order, i can't do that. >> the only thing standing in the way of donald trump relea releasing his taxes is donald trump. he first said he won't release taxes because of being audited. we asked the irs. federal privacy rules prohibit discussing individual tax matters. nothing prevents individuals from sharing their own tax information. every candidate since 1976 has released his tax returns. richard nixon did it while he was under audit.
this can give voters valuable information. how much a person makes from investments and business income. how much is taxable. it shows what deductions they make and how much they donate to charity and the effective tax rate. how much they are paying to the government. that's what's on a tax return. not net worth. there is some discussion of the net worth of donald trump. and what he says is what forbes and fortune shows. >> if you turn a profit, it shows in you paid taxes that year. both could be open questions for any individual. let's break down the big meeting and tax returns. we have digital managing editor zach wolf. we will get to paul ryan in a second and get to taxes in a second. there are more verbal gymnastics from donald trump. this time on one of his policy proposals. this on his proposal to ban
muslims from entering the united states. at the time, there were no exceptions. he said he would do it. ten then he said it was temporary. now he says it is an idea. listen to what he said last night to fox. >> have you decided whether you are backing off on the ban? i realize it was a temporary ban, but with an unlimited temporary period. >> no, it was never meant to be. that's why it was temporary. i would like to back off as soon as possible. i would like to see something happen. we have to be vigilant. >> we have a serious problem. it is a temporary ban. it hasn't been called for yet. this is just a suggestion until we find out what's going on. >> zach wolf, this was a major policy proposal. a promise from trump trudonald ? is this back tracking?
>> clearly back tracking. something has happened between now and then. donald trump is the presumptive nominee. he will talk to a much different group of people. the scope of voters he needs to woo is larger. when he was calling for the muslim ban, he was talking to the republican base. now he is moving to a general election where he will face probably hillary clinton and a muslim ban is not as much as a good idea. you talk about paul ryan. he said donald trump needs to unify the party. they will talk about that today. i don't know exactly how you show that you unify the republican party at this point. you know, most republicans on capitol hill were against the muslim ban. most politicians in the country were. on the muslim ban and on the minimum wage, there are all sorts of things where donald trump is quickly change.
>> zach, when you look at the exit polling, donald trump supporters overwhelmingly support a ban on muslims. that policy inspired his base and really was one of the hallmarks in the primary season. does he risk angering those supporters? >> sure. absolutely he does. the one thing we all learned over the last 11 months is donald trump plays by a different set of rules. are those people still going to like him? are they going to like he is flexible? he would layout the pretty amazing recommendations or markers. then say oh, everything is negotiable. >> and everything is a
negotiation. his own attorneys stated he should not release those. the irs said you are free to release the tax information. let's listen to what he said over the past year about the tax returns. >> i have no objection to certainly showing tax returns. >> getting closer to releasing your tax returns? >> i'm thinking about. i'm thinking about maybe when we find out the true story on hillary's e-mails. >> i can't do it until the audit is finished obviously. >> you go back to 2011, he said then he would release his tax returns when barack obama released his birth certificate. that certificate has been released by the way. i have four questions. why not? is his excuse valid? what does it matter? >> and john says tax returns showed how much money he made.
one part of the political per n persona is he is really rich. is it possible he is not making as much money? him not releasing his taxes leads you to believe he is not. that is what mitt romney is suggesting. he wants trump to release his tax returns. it would be really interesting to see. one wonders why he won't do it. it seems he would at this point. before you wondered if he would get this far. did he really need to open himself up to this scrutiny. it is not clear. >> it doesn't matter. trump people talked yesterday. our voters don't care about this. this is an issue where it is not just his voters that matter. it is people in the middle. i don't know if voters care about this. i don't know how much hillary clinton will keep on about this. i don't know how much the media will keep on this. a lot will depend on how much focus is put on it in the coming months.
let's talk about the big meeting today, zach. high stakes day on capitol hill. donald trump headed to meet with paul ryan. paul ryan is not there yet to endorse donald trump. paul ryan is facing a lot of pressure to move on this. >> he is. he is not expecting a lot of members from his caucus saying he needs to get behind donald trump. paul ryan did a donald trump move when he said last week i'm not ready to support him. you have to do something for me. they will meet. it allows them the opportunity to come together. it allows for the kumbaya moment. it is hard to imagine that what is said in a one-hour meeting today can heal the kind of rift that we suggested. you know, is it all for show? is it real stuff? a lot of republicans have a lot of really big policy differences with donald trump.
they will only get bigger as he pivots on the minimum wage. who knows what's going to happen? >> his son eric trump on fox said he doesn't need paul ryan's support. >> he said we would love to have it. it is something we want. when you press them, do you need it. that's when they get prickly. one america with two economies. new data shows how fast the middle class is shrinking. the share of middle income households declined in 90% of the metro areas from 2000 to 2014. overall, 51% of americans lived in middle class homes in 2015. that is down from 55% in the year 2000. one reason is rising income inequality. decline of unions and
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an auction that starts hours from now. the former neighborhood watch volunteer claimed self defense after he shot trayvon martin, unarmed, back in 2012. he was acquitted of both murder and manslaughter. now zimmerman wrote a description calling th the .9-millimeter a piece of americans history. >> i thought it was time to move past the firearm. if i sell it and it sells, i move past it. what i decided to do is not cower. i'm a free american. i can do what i like with my possessions. >> the bidding starts at $5,000. zimmerman says he will use some of the money from the auction to fight this quote black lives matter, violence against law enforcement offices. the trayvon martin family
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will republicans rally around donald trump? the high stakes meeting in hours set to unite that party. hillary clinton blasting donald trump for not releasing his tax returns. she is not only one. breaking overnight. george zimmerman auctions off the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. the acquitted killer in his own words. wait until you hear what he wants to do with the money. welcome back to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. 30 minutes past the hour. big day in washington. big day for donald trump. big day for the future of the republican party. donald trump will try to convince the country's highest elected republican official that trump should be president. he meets with house speaker paul
ryan. one week after ryan said he refused to endorse trump yet. now many are pushing ryan to fall behind trump or risk fracturing the republican party. let go to cnn's sara murray. >> reporter: good morning, john and christine. will there be party unity? today may be the day that gives us the best indication. this is the day when donald trump will travel to washington to meet face-to-face with house speaker paul ryan. that is after the house speaker said he wasn't quite ready to fall in line and endorse donald trump. he said since then that the two just need to get to know each other a little bit. today is an opportunity for them to do that in d.c. what we already have seen is some of the trump supporters begun laying the ground work. some supporters on the hill reaching out to paul ryan. ben carson has spoken to paul ryan. donald trump has been saying and
tweeting more optimistic things about the upcoming meeting. >> i think he's a good man. i really think, you know, probably we'll come out with something that's going to be good. i hope. otherwise i'll continue on the path i continue to be on. >> i don't really know him. i met him once in 2012. we had good conversation once in march. we as a leadership team are enjoying the fact we have a chance to meet with him. >> reporter: all of this could lay the ground work for the two coming out of this saying there is common ground. we want to reduce the deficit and debt. we want to cut taxes on middle class families. with donald trump there is always the possibility that it could end on a rocky fashion. that it could end in fireworks. we should get a better sense of that in a few hours. back to you. >> sara murray, thank you. donald trump under fire this morning for refusing to promise to release his tax returns before the november election. early last year, trump promised
to release the returns before that. he said his taxes since 2009 are being audited from the irs. the irs said trump is free to release his returns. it is up to trump. no law against it. trump says his lawyers are telling him not to. he is not planning to push them. >> if were you my client and under audit, i would say don't release them. i think there are years outside the audit. >> if there are, they are meaningless. i would like to release them. when i'm under ordinanaudit, i o that. >> back in february when trump said he would not release his taxes because he is being audited. the irs statement reads, federal rules prohibit us to discuss
individual tax matters. nothing prohibits individuals from sharing tax information. every candidate from 1976 released taxes. richard nixon did it under audit. this is one of the things that people who are hiring you want to look over. tax returns show how much you make from investments and business income. how much deductions. how much they donate to charity. and the effective tax rate. >> and if they make an income, what that income is. how much money they make. how much they pay. questions that surround donald trump. let us discuss the big paul ryan meeting and other subjects as well. we are joined by digital managing editor zach wolf. zach, something else happened overnight. a big shift going on here. donald trump's proposed muslim
ban. when he first proposed it in the wake of paris last fall. it was a complete ban. banning muslims from entering the country. period. the end. last night, it seemed to push a lot. listen to this very new language from donald trump. >> have you decided if you would back off the ban, it was temporary ban, but that could go on forever. >> it was never meant to be. that is why it was temporary. sure i would like to back off on it. i would like to back off as soon as possible because i would like to see something happen. >> we have a serious problem. it's a temporary ban. it hasn't been called for yet. it is just a suggestion. >> he went from total ban to temporary ban. that happened quickly. overnight, it went to just being a suggestion. that's a pretty staggering shift. >> he said nobody called for it.
he called for it. back in december. this is the latest thing. we have seen it on this and the minimum wage and other things where donald trump is pivoting quickly to change his position on a lot of things. you know, he has always said he is a negotiatonegotiator. he put out such a hard marker on in the primary are more negotiable. >> some say they agree with the ban on the muslims coming into the united states. this is a policy that put him on the map with the trump supporters. >> paul ryan doesn't agree. >> i wonder if donald trump is risking alienating the people who support him or will they matter? >> the people who voted for donald trump and gave him the republican nomination, there are not enough of them to make him
president. he has to find a larger group of people to, you know, appeal to in a general election. you know, calling for a complete muslim ban, that is not just paul ryan. most of the republican establishment was against the muslim ban and the country generally. you know, he's just appealing to a different group now. >> let's talk about taxes, zach wolf. >> i love to talk about taxes at 5:00 in the morning. >> he said he will not release the taxes. he will not push to do it before the november election. he says there is nothing to learn from them. which is actually not true. you can learn a great deal from someone's taxes. including how much you make and how much you pay in taxes and how much you give to charity. those three issues have been central to the donald trump candidacy. >> listen to him in his words. you will hear how his language has changed. >> i have a great company.
i have done a great job. i'll do full disclosure of finances. >> including tax returns? >> we'll look at that. maybe i'll do the tax returns when obama does his birth certificate. >> i have no objection to tax returns. >> getting any closer to releasing your tax returns? >> i'm thinking about it. when we find out the true story on hillary clinton's e-mails. >> i can't do it until the audit is finished. obviously. >> the irs says you can release them. others have released them. is that a valid excuse, do you think? >> no, it's not a valid execution. tru excuse. he seems to play on a different set of rules. part of his political story is that he's really rich. he likes to point out he's a successful businessman. he makes a lot of money.
we won't know how much money he makes as a person until he releases his tax returns. you know, on the other hand, he has shown time and again that the rules don't apply to him. >> paul ryan, sitting down in a room with donald trump today. paul ryan last week said he is not ready to endorse donald trump yet. i'll be curious to see how far paul ryan moves after this meeting. zach, he is facing a lot of pressure from his own party. >> he is facing a lot of pressure. you have seen a lot of republicans really start to coalesce around donald trump and saying they would support the nominee. paul ryan clearly has a lot of policy differences with donald trump. it is hard to imagine all of that getting sewn up during a one-hour meeting on capitol hill. you can imagine that the tone
between the two guys can change. it has changed a bit. last week on cnn, paul ryan was saying i can't support donald trump yet because of policy. yesterday, he was sounding a little bit kinder to him. donald trump sounded a lot nicer about paul ryan after saying last week he rejected his policy agenda. you can see these two sort of moving toward each other. it is hard to imagine everything getting solved today. >> i wonder calling the muslim ban and the move to paul ryan and the republican party feels. zach, thank you for getting up early this morning for us. zach wolf. 41 minutes past the hour. a shooting that sparked civil rights protests across the country. the gun is now for sale. up for auction. why george zimmerman is auctioning off the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. you won't believe what he wants to do with some of the money.
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even when i'm on the move... ahhh. george zimmerman is selling the gun he used to kill trayvon martin. selling in an an auction. an online action that starts hours from now. the volunteer claimed self defense after shooting unarmed trayvon martin in 2012. he was acquitted of murder and manslaughter. zimmerman called the the .9-millimeter pistol a piece of american history. >> i thought it was time to move past the firearm. if i sell it and it sells, i move past it. what i decided to do is not cower. i'm a free american. i can do what i like with my possessions. >> bidding starts at $5,000.
zimmerman says he will use some of the money from the auction to fight quote black lives matter violence against law enforcement officers. trayvon martin's family released this statement. we are committed to the mission of ending senseless gun violence in the united states. this election season, we are focused on furthering that mission. as such, the foundation has no comment on the actions of that person. a bench trial under way for one of six baltimore police officers charged in the death of freddie gray. a judge will decide the officer's fate. he faces three charges of second-degree assault and reckless endangerment. he had no business of apprehending gray in the first place. the director of the fbi blaming the video effect of the rise of homicides in some
cities. james comey says police are fearful of winding up in an online video. the obama administration disputed comey's theory. time for an early start on your money. stocks are higher after a tumble yesterday. investors are concerned of consumer spending or not spending. oil trading near the highest levels of the year. watch shares of macy's this morning if you are looking for evidence of the consumer story. the stock fell 15% yesterday. macy's one of the worst performing stocks in the s&p last year. it stabilized more recently. its performance spreading concerns about the u.s. retail sector. macy's say sales are weak and people are spending less at the
flagship store and other spots. the revamping of clothing deal with lady gaga and elton john. they are looking at steady job growth and an economy that is moving all right. but some reason people are not spending. let's see what is coming up on "new day." alisyn camerota joins us. >> what can we expect from the donald trump/speaker paul ryan face-to-face today? this is in an uproar over donald trump who refuses to release the tax returns. and hillary clinton wasting no time attacking trump over that issue and bernie sanders attacks her saying nominating clinton would be a quote disaster for democrats. we will follow-up on last night's cnn town hall talking to a doctor about the epidemic of painkiller abuse in america. a lot to get to when we see you in ten minutes. >> thank you. brazil voting to impeach its
breaking news this morning. just minutes ago, brazil's president, dilma rousseff, was impeached by the brazilian senate. senators holding a marathon debate overnight ending in a vote of 55 in favor of impeachment. 22 against. the president will be suspended for up to six months while she defends herself. joining us now with the latest on the breaking news this morning. cnn's shasta darlington. bring us up to date. she is in the capital of brasilia. >> reporter: this caps off months of street protests and heated debate in congress. the senators voted overwhelmingly in favor of impeachment trial. that means dilma rousseff will
be suspended for the 180 days. she will be replaced on an interim basis by the vice president. the challenges ahead on enormous. not only is brazil in a middle of a prolonged recession, its battling the zika virus pandemic which has caused birth defects, but gearing up for the olympic games. as we all know are under three months away. there is this back and forth of who is in charge of the country when the torch arrives in rio de janeiro. we know rousseff is going to be defending herself in an impeachment trial and we have the vice president overseeing the country. the question is if the country can come together before the games arrive. there has been an issue with the zika virus and political corruption. all of these protests on the streets. going ahead, we are likely to
see more protests and the president and her workers party calling strikes. it is going to be an era of discontent as we head into the olympic games. not the image in 2009 when brazil bid on the emerging power of the global stage. >> the economy that many people were looking to saying this is a powerful economy that could lift the middle class. so many things have changed since then. any sign of the economy front that the worst is over for brazil? >> reporter: you know, investors and companies are optimistic that the vice president will bring a change of course because deep recession and high unemployment. dilma rousseff has one of the lowest approval ratings in the world. the first thing we expect to hear from the vice president is who his finance minister is
going to be and his economic team is going to be. he promised investors will come back. he will send the signals they want to hear. >> so many brazilian citizens, it has been a tough go with the bright optimism of the olympics, but so much worry and political turmoil. thank you, shasta darlington. dow future rebounding. asian stocks closing higher overnight. oil above $46 a barrel. bag fees are big money for the airlines and a big pain at the airport. two senators want airlines to end checked bag fees to shorten security lines this summer. democrats from connecticut say there are two more rollerboard lines. dropping the fees would encourage to check bags and
shorten more lines. it is a tough sell to airlines. they raked in $3.8 billion in fees. if air travel is too slow for you, this may soon be with an option. three, two, one. start. >> this is the first public test of the high speed transportation system called hyperloop one. that metal sled tests the acceleration system. it hit 116 miles per hour in 1.9 seconds. it took place near the las vegas strip where engineers are welding a test loop. hyperloop one wants to start carrying passengers by 2021. will republicans rally around donald trump? a high stakes meeting in hours set to unite or divide the
party. "new day" picks up the story. >> we have an obligation to merge and unify. >> we will see how it goes. i think it will go well. >> we're just getting started. >> i think all republicans would get behind him. >> a tax return, you learn very little. hopefully before the election i'll release them. donald trump's tax plan was written by a billionaire for a billionaire. >> it is a little bit weird that secretary clinton received 400 super delegates before anybody else got into the race. >> the choice in this campaign could not be clearer. >> this is the future of america. this is the number e of death in america. >> this is man made. it's been preventable all along. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo. >> good morning, everyone.
welcome to "new day." it is thursday, may theth. john berman is here. great to have you. house speaker paul ryan and donald trump set to meet just hours from now. their summit is supposed to be the first step at unity. some republicans urging ryan to get behind trump. can these two agree? >> the talk coming out of trump and then just last night trump appears to soften his stance on one of his key issues. his proposed ban on muslims entering the country was only quote, a suggestion. >> and also drawing fire for the reasons why he cannot release his tax returns. we have the 2016 race covered only the way cnn can. let's begin with our political reporter live outside rnc headquarters in washington.