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now versus the 45-year-old what about who donald trump may appoint. >> that's right. thank you for watching. i'm brooke baldwin on this monday afternoon. keep it right here. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. thanks, brooke. i'm jake tapper and this is "the lead." what donald's ex-model girlfriend has to say. a new report accusing of donald trump with borderline creepy behavior and some on his payroll and one woman says she was misquoted and she's voting for him. a charity for veterans accused of raising millions and barely giving any of it to the veterans who need it. we wanted to ask the president of the charity about this but he drove away. in his rolls royce. a lead investigation. plus -- >> i urge you to enact president
kennedy's civil rights bill into wall. >> the great bryan cranston will be in the studio to talk about channelling our 36th president for a brand-new hbo film. good afternoon, everyone. what a show we have for you today. welcome to "the lead." our politics lead. throughout his long tenure in the public eye, donald trump has had many insulting things to say about women. you can listen to the howard sterns tape if you want more on that. hillary clinton is planning to use all of these moments as silver bullets in the general election and now a new york times story is providing more ammunition, calling his behavior basing. the woman cited as exhibit a in this story says "the times" took
her out of context. sara murray is joining me. trump says this is a hit piece and a fraud. that doesn't necessarily mean that it is. >> i've spoken to a number of women who have worked for donald trump in the past and they said they were willing to overlook some of the off-color comments he made in exchange for big opportunities. at least some of these women feel like donald trump went a little bit too far. donald trump is going to war with the media yet again. this time, taking aim at "the new york times" for a page one story highlighting tales of trump appearing to objectify women and make unwanted advances. one woman says she was misrepresented. >> i made it very clear many times that i had a very pleasant relationship with donald and i never felt like i was being, you
know, depicted as, you know, a piece of meat or anything like that. i was never offended by anything he said. >> reporter: prompting trump to call the story a hit piece on twitter, adding "we have exposed the article as a fraud." it talks about trump giving a pageant contestant with a kiss on the lips even as he made off-hand comments that some viewed as demeaning and divisive. the reporters are standing by their piece. >> there's no single to mention to donald trump and the women. it makes it clear through the voices that were heard. >> reporter: it means more media scrutiny for trump. last week, it was a story on the billionaire posing as a spokesman. >> is the campaign claiming that
isn't mr. trump. >> donald trump says that's not him. i believe it's not him. >> in 1990 under oath, he testified that he used the name john baron and he told the "people" magazine that he used the name john miller. >> i just know that he said it's not him. >> reporter: the story is providing even more fodder for "saturday night live" skits like this one. >> mr. trump is the real inspiration for ironman. who am i? this is what classy people sound like, okay? >> reporter: gop leaders, including mitt romney and weekly standard editor bill crystal are still trying to recruit a third-party candidate to take on trump, an effort denounced as a suicide mission. >> they can try to hijack another party and get on the ballot but it's a suicide mission for our country because
what it means is that you're throwing down not just eight years of the white house you about potentially 100 years on the supreme court and wrecking this country for many generations. >> now, one of the things we're getting a better sense of is how donald trump is going to respond to the deep dives into his past and he's getting more scrutiny as a republican nominee and it's clear what he's going to do is deny all of these allegations and slam the media. jake, i think a lot more of this is still to come. >> allegations that he's admitted before. sara murray, thank you so much. joining me now, marsha blackburn. she's endorsed donald trump's campaign. thank you for joining us. good to see you again. >> yes. absolutely. >> regardless of the "new york times" story, according to polls, mr. trump does have a problem with women voters leading into november. how can he fix it? >> i think he fixes it by putting the focus on issues they want to talk about. national security, jobs and economic security, retirement security, getting rid of some of the regulation that is just
crippling businesses and causes a lot of wage stagnation. that's how he fixes it and that's what people want to talk about. >> but do you think that this "times" story and others out there like it, plus other interviews he's done on the record with howard sterns, et cetera, is that going to hurt donald trump with women in places like philadelphia and ohio? >> i think what is so interesting about this, women know that they are going to be men that they have passed along the way in their career that have said things that they don't like. donald trump has said things i don't like. let me tell you this. they never let that control what they see as the outcome they want. and in this case of this election, jake, what people want is to beef up national security and to get rid of the terror cells here in this country, to make sure that the southern border is secured from illegal
entry. trafficking and drugs and they want jobs and they want to see some elevation in wages and this is what they are looking to get done and i think that they see donald trump as somebody who is going to come in here, shake up washington, d.c., and hold the federal government accountable to the people and they are saying, all right, you get that done, i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. >> i want you to listen to something said this weekend at a commencement speech. a lot of people think that he was talking about donald trump. >> let me be as clear as i can be. in politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. it's not cool to not know what you're talking about. that's how keeping it real or telling it like it is. that's not challenging political correctness. that's just not knowing what you're talking about.
>> your response? >> i know the president thinks that he was being quite humor rouse with that but talking about things you don't know anything about is something that this president -- look at what has happened to the labor force participation rate. barack obama has shown he does not understand a lot about what he has talked about and agendas that he has pushed. maybe he's the master of that. >> congressman marsha blackburn, thank you. >> good to be with you. >> how could this "new york times" article impact trump on the trail against the first would-be woman president? our panel will dive into that, next. ♪ if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shine through?
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welcome back to "the lead." hillary clinton wants her husband in charge of the economy should she become president, she says. before she can focus on the white house, she will need to wrap up the democratic primaries and try to avoid another embarrassing loss when kentucky democrats vote tomorrow night. jeff zeleny joins me live from
los angeles. jeff, set the stage for us for tomorrow's voting. >> jake, there are 116 delegates tomorrow in both kentucky and oregon. mathematically speaking, hillary clinton does not need to win those contests because democrats divide these proportionally. but politically speaking, she would love to win at least one. that's why she spent all day in kentucky trying to rally some voters and she did so with bill clinton in mind. >> i'm not going to give up on kentucky in november. >> reporter: but before november, hillary clinton had a more urgent task in mind today. her battle with bernie sanders. >> pledged delegates. >> reporter: she's hoping to interrupt sanders recent winning streak on the eve of tuesday's primary. >> i want to help bring back the kind of economy that worked for everybody in the 1990s. >> reporter: and revealing more about bill clinton and his role in her white house.
>> i've already told my husband that if i'm so fortunate enough to be president and he will be the first gentleman -- [cheers and applause ] -- i expect him to go to work. >> reporter: it's another way to fire up democrats. offering two clintons for the price of one. >> he has to come out of retirement. >> yes, he does. >> reporter: she wants nothing more than to focus exclusively on donald trump. >> here's the question. so what is your plan to create jobs? >> reporter: even envisioning what a debate with him would sound like. >> his answer would be, i'm going to create them, they are going to be great. i know how to do it. but i'm not telling you what it is i'm going to do. >> reporter: but sanders isn't going quietly. campaigning today in puerto rico and trying to speak spanish. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: clinton is only 140 delegates away from reaching the party's nomination. she needs to win only 16% of the
remaining delegates. sanders needs 102%, an unreachable goal unless a flood of superdelegates suddenly came his way. no matter the size of her lead, some sanders supporters will not accept it. raw tensions on display at the democratic convention over the weekend. booing, shouting. the fight growing so intense over delegates, authorities shutting down the meeting early. but this democratic family feud may seem polite compared to what is awaiting clinton in her fight with trump. he's the one person democratic leaders believe can unify their party. >> i've been called nearly everything but i've never been called a quitter and i will not quit on you. >> reporter: her secretary put out a statement clarifying that. he said it's far too premature to do any kind of a formalizing of anyone in her administration. they know they have to go
through this campaign first. clearly hillary clinton mentioning bill clinton over and over and over. tomorrow night, she's unlikely to clinch the nomination mathematically speaking. but by the time she reaches the california primary in three weeks, that's when mathematically she'll cross the line of 2383. >> jeff zeleny, thank you so much. let's bring in mary katherine hand and paul begala, democratic strategist. mary katherine, let's talk about this new york times story. they interviewed at least four dozen women. exhibit a says she was taken out of context. >> this may seem like i'm giving him praise and i am. i was sort of surprised that the accusations were not more serious until you get to the
ivana trump accusations which she says was not true. they end up lending to trump and to his narrative because the main woman, they call it debasing behavior. she says i didn't find it debasing at all. certainly the behavior speaks to many women and that's the problem for trump. >> paul, the pro clinton super pac plans to run anti-trump ads. attacks against trump haven't seemed to have work yet. how will your attacks be affected? >> that's the key in the republican primary. first of all, i have to say, i've watched the republican primaries and i thought trump's opponents were late and weak in going after him. in the end, they were ridiculous. marco rubio mocking him. we're not going to do that sort of thing. there's a group of voters who
are going to decide this election. trump is right. he's bulletproof when he says this, i hate it but he says, i can shoot on fifth avenue and not lose any of my voters and he's right. they are older, angrier, whiter, male. there's a whole country out there that has not been exposed to some of the things that mr. trump has said and done. we're going to raise his name i.d. $6 million. >> on the other hand, mary katherine, polls have donald trump either leading in ohio or even and certainly we've heard plenty of nasty things about him, refusing to release his taxes, these pr agents, john baro baron. >> perhaps his public treatment
of women is the same as the private treatment of women. >> so it's no surprise? >> right. as much as i hate to agree with paul, i believe he's right that the attacks are late and a little weak and i think you can make a difference in a general election but you see these close numbers and you say, this is a fight between two people who a lot of people don't like and i look at the race and say the gop managed to find one person that the gop trusts less than hillary clinton. >> paul, i want you to hear hillary clinton when she talked about how closely bill clinton would work with her if she's elected. >> you said bill clinton would head up -- would he be on your cabinet? >> no, he wouldn't be in the cabinet but she said he would be basically in charge of the economy, so to speak. this is the same president clinton, we should point, who signed into law all of the trade deals that bernie sanders and
donald trump had been hammering her. >> his economic policy created 23 million jobs, balanced the budget. he would say not only do we have great boom but shared prosperity. the reagan boom was impressive but only raised 77,000 people out of poverty and the clinton boom raised 7 million out of poverty. you couldn't have a better record. >> she wants to have it both ways and have the modern economic policy standing there but also to woo the bernie sanders folks and on the other hand she's not going to get that clean as he's the nominee.
>> indeed. mary katherine, paul begala, thank you so much. isis launching a deadly attack in baghdad as the iraqi army prepares to fight back on another front. then, the head of a veterans charity driving around in a rolls royce when just a fraction of the charity's money actually made it to veterans. and this story gets even worse. stay with us.
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people. sunday's violence just the latest in a series of escalating attacks carried out by the terrorist group in and around iraqi capital. let's go to arwa damon who is live in istanbul, turkey. arwa, how exactly was this attack carried out? >> reporter: well, it clearly was very well planned and then executed. isis initially launching a suicide car bomber at one of the main entrances of that gas plant and then launching in that wave of suicide bombers. now, the iraqi security forces did manage to repel the attack and maintain control of the gas tank itself but the fighting did cause major damage. we've seen this upped effort on the key infrastructure to go after soft targets, civilian population and mostly shia areas, perhaps someone argued as an attempt to draw the iraqi
security forces away from the other front lines where they have been battling isis because they are aware of the fact that it needs to secure the population in baghdad, the capital, and to up its efforts to try to protect these key infrastructures. >> arwa, the iraqi military launched an operation on monday to retake the western town, ann bar province, from isis. how significant would that be if that happened? >> reporter: it would definitely sever the route. it's located close to the jordanian border and they are concentrating on trying to clear anbar province of isis. they have managed to regain solid chunks of territory but
also the city of fallujah, the border crossing, those still stay in isis control or are in isis control at this stage. one really needs to be a bit cautious when it comes to terminology like winning or losing and defeated isis because looking at isis' history, it's an entity that constantly reorganizes itself and morphs. it's a charity meant to bring in millions of dollars but when cnn asked why only 2% went to veterans, well, he drove away in a rolls royce. stay with us.
in our buried lead, shocking revelations about a charity set up to help those who deserve so much, an exclusive lead investigation by cnn's drew griffin into a group called the national vietnam veterans foundation. the foundation has raised more than $27 million over the past four years but cnn has learned that only a fraction of that money has gone to help our veterans. in fact, in one year, only 2% went to veterans and their families. also shocking and outrageous, the person leading this questionable group is a lawyer for the department of veterans affairs. i want to bring in senior investigative correspondent drew griffin. drew, i mean, what? >> where do you start, jake? along with paying professional fund-raisers, almost every dime sent to the national vietnam
veterans foundation went to something other than charity. it went to paying for travel, salaries, tens of thousands of dollars in miscellaneous items undisclosed and even thousands of dollar as year for parking. parking for what, you may ask? well, perhaps the rolls royce the charity president parks in his driveway. on it is website, the national vietnam veterans foundation looks like a true blue all american charity dedicated, as it says, to aiding, supporting and benefiting american's veterans and their families. but take a look at its irs filings and you will wonder like we did. just exactly which veterans are getting all the benefit. thomas is listed as the president. he is a veteran. so is his vice president, a man named david kaufman. they ran the charity in 2014 that took in $8.6 million in
donations. they each got paid $65,000 a year in salary. they spent $133,000 in travel expenses. they spent $16,000 for telephones, 21,000 for unnamed awards, 70,000 in categories described as other expenses. they have even expensed nearly $10,000 for parking, perhaps for this rolls royce which we'll tell you more about in a moment. almost all of the rest of the money, $7,736,000 was paid to professional fund-raisers. how much money was actually given to anything related to charitable works for vietnam veterans? 122,000 in small grants. that's out of nearly $9 million taken in. do the math, it's less than 2%. >> i can't go lower than that.
>> reporter: michael champer, the ceo says the national veterans foundation is truly one of the worst. >> if one really carried about vietnam veterans, this is an effective way of making a difference for these people, i don't think so. and i can't justify it. >> reporter: to get an explanation, we came to the suburban washington home of the charity's president where he was parking a rolls royce with a license plate my rolls. >> mr. birch? >> reporter: it turns out running his charity is a sideline. he's a federal worker, working for none other than the department of veterans affairs. yes, you heard right. the man who runs one of the worst charities for veterans works at the agency dedicated to veterans.
according to the va, it's not a conflict of interest for a va employee to also serve as a charity officer. but after cnn asked more about mr. birch's charity and his six-income job here at the va, the department is now reviewing this particular case. as for birch himself, he never returned our calls. we, instead, got a statement from the vice president david kaufman who sent us a description of what he said were the charity's good works, feeding homeless veterans and their families by donating to food banks, sending personal care kits to hospitalized vets, handing out donated blankets, hats and gloves and, yes, handing out the tiny fraction of the $8.6 billion in actual cash which, believe it or not, even included giving $11,000 in emergency funds to the brother of the man in that rolls royce.
>> mr. birch? mr. birch? jake, there is an indication from the department of veterans affairs they will give more than a cursory look at all of this. the review of his position in the v and the charity is being conducted by the inspector general's office. meanwhile, we have an open invitation to mr. birch, we are happy to sit down and listen. >> unbelievable. drew griffin, great work. thank you so much. appreciate it. the supreme court decides not to decide on the latest challenge to the obamacare. why the higher court sent it back to the lower courts. and from drug kingpin to the latest role playing president
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come up with a compromise but the religious group said it wasn't good enough and that led us to this high court challenge? >> and it led us to the supreme court saying please, please, please try again to compromise, which is not why we have a supreme court to make a decision but with eight justices, they clearly don't want to split 4-4 so they just kick the can down the road and this will probably be back in their laps in a year or 18 months. >> and beyond that, the dynamics of the court, what can we read into the decision? >> i think we can read in that this was very likely heading toward a 4-4 split and the chief justice in particular wants the court to be seen as doing its job and so by letting the parties try to work it out, maybe they will avoid having to make a decision in this case. that's certainly the hope.
if you look at how this litigation has been for so long, i think the odds of a compromise are pretty remote, which means this thing will work its way back through the courts. more importantly, it means that obamacare as inactive remains on the books and the women who are getting contraception from these employers, who are also religious entities, will continue to get it in the meantime. >> this is a very speculative question but humor me. if scalia were still on the court, what do you think would have happened? >> i think the obama administration would have lost. i think this would have been struck down as a violation of the religious rights of these religious institutions like the little sisters of the poor and this is yet another example of why justice scalia's departure has been an earthquake on the supreme court because he was one of the five conservatives and now there are only four. >> and is the court avoiding
ruling on controversial cases beyond this case? >> well, we'll see. we haven't seen too much of it yet but we're still fairly early in the term. the controversial cases usually wind up in june and we'll see how many of those get dealt with in this manner. there haven't been that many high-profile rulings in this session yet and justice scalia only died in february. but i think we are going to see either 4-4 rulings, which do not resolve anything for the whole country or rulings like this which are unanimous but they are only unanimous in not deciding, which is effectively another example of what having only eight justices means. >> jeffrey toobin, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> all right. he has played a high school teacher turned drug dealer but now actor bryan cranston is playing a man who rose to the most powerful position in the
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our pop culture lead now. >> i urge you to enact president kennedy's civil rights bill into law. so that we can eliminate for this nation every trace of discrimination that is based upon race or color. >> lyndon johnson was an accidental president after the assassination of john f. kennedy, perhaps largely because of his role in the vietnam war, not to mention his own crude
style, appreciation of the 36th president has perhaps never matched his achievements. he passed, of course, sweeping civil rights and voting rights legislation that changed the nation. to say nothing of medicare and medicaid and other programs in so-called great society. tony and bryan cranston plays lbj in "all the way," a fascinating new film on the movie that premiers this saturday night on hbo, a fellow family of the time warner family. cranston, of course, starred in a little show you may have heard called "breaking bad." bryan cranston is joining me now. thanks for being here. >> good to be here. >> you actually have some fleeting memories of the jim crow south which lbj in this film worked so hard to end. >> the innocence of a young boy, i was 6 years old when my family took a car trick from texas to california. when we got into texas, my mother leaned over the seat and to my brother and i in the back
seat and said, boys, i need to tell you that in texas, if you see a drinking fountain that says color, don't drink out of it. and that's really all she said. now, i was only 6. perhaps she shouldn't have said more. but i was looking everywhere and the innocence of a boy, i thought, color? what color is if going to be? is it grape? does it have a flavor? does it have a rainbow? and that really did -- that's what i remember from that trip. obviously, decades later, i realized the import of that, what it meant to me during my lifetime these jim crow laws were in effect. this is what was the norm in our country. and so it was really very sd-- was honored to play lyndon johnson and pushing forward to the act of 1964 and what that meant. >> i wanted to play a clip when
lbj reveals how personally and emotionally invested he is in passing the civil rights bill because of the time he spent in rural texas as a teacher educating young mexican-american immigrants. >> yeah. >> come a day for each and every one of them when i would see the light in their eyes die. because they had discovered that the world hated them just because of the color of their skin now, some folks tell me just to go slow. they say the political risk is too high. and to that i say, well, if a president can't do what he knows is right, then what's the presidency for? >> it's a powerful moment and one of the reasons why i think
it is is because until then you really don't know if he personally cares about this. this is a crude man, a man who sees the world in terms of politics and this group will vote for me and this group won't vote for me but he really cares. >> he does. his political ak cue men was very acute and had a personal experience when he was 23 and that stayed with him on through the house of representatives and through the senate and on to the white house. and he felt it. he felt it deeply. and, yes, the man had hi high highs. he was bold and yet he was also cripplingly insecure and troubled and amazing shakespearean president. >> deeply flawed. the film goes into that.
to prepare for this role, you spent some time at the lbj library in texas and one thing that you said helped you find this center was this letter that you stumbled on to, one that jackie kennedy wrote to lbj the day after john f. kennedy's funeral. she writes in part, thank you for walking behind jack during his funeral. you did not have to do that and i'm sure many people forbid you to take such a risk but you did anyway. thank you for your letters to my children. you can imagine the touching thing is, they have always loved you so much. they were most moved to have a letter from you. how did that letter -- and you're actually tearing up a little bit right now. >> it was so emotional. when an actor goes and does research, we don't know exactly what we are looking for. people are helpful and say, can you guide us? i just don't know. i want to see everything and when it hits me, i'll know then. the first time i was at the johnson library in austin, i missed it. and it's a beautiful library. very informative and
entertaining. and then i wanted to catch things that i didn't get. so i was there, i saw this letter and it left an impact on me. here is a man who ascended to the office of the presidency of the united states with all the implications that that carries under tragic circumstances. and yet he took the time to write to two small children about the love and respect that he had for their fallen father. and it just attacked my emotions. and i went, this is who lbj was. emotionally. this is the kercore of the man. i was able to take that and pull it in and from there build out the rest of the sensability of the person. >> this movie doesn't whitewash who he is. you show him racked with insecurity and crude. >> the beginning of the first mistakes in vietnam. >> it's willingness to go with
perhaps a lie about what happened at the gulf is there. i want to play for you a campaign ad that lbj ad used in his presidential race against barry goldwater in 1964 and then get your reaction to it. >> this man scares me. you know, maybe i'm wrong. a friend of mine said to me, listen, just because a man sounds a little irresponsible during a campaign doesn't mean he's going to act irresponsibly, you know that theory that the white house makes them mad. i don't buy that. >> the ad purports to be a republican talking about why he wouldn't vote for barry goldwater. some republicans, although clearly not enough, had a visceral reaction to donald trump. >> yes. i saw this and it is eerily familiar to the climate that we're experiencing with the presumptive republican nominee
for president, that he, too, was bolstered by the kkk in a sense they recommended him and supported him and he does say one thing and then switch it and say another thing and switch it. i find it -- i find it remarkable and troubling that he's not responsible for what he's saying and i think your words do have consequences and they should be accountable. lbj might have looked at the climate at this time and he would just shake his head and he wouldn't understand what the hell's going on in that town, i tell you what. it's a lot different from when i left it. >> well, the movie is "all the way" premiers on hbo saturday night and, boy, it's fantastic. thanks so much for being here. >> thanks, jake.
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