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november. >> she can't put the deal away. we can. we know how to close the deal. >> now, it's time for voters to have their say. >> please join this campaign. >> americans are choicing. >> we're going to win, win, win and you're going to love it. >> the candidates battle the doubters and each other. >> i am looking forward to debating donald trump come the fall. >> the sprint to the finish line begins right now. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world to a special edition of the situation room. i'm wolf blitzer. tonight the democrats are battling two states to be the candidate that goes up against donald trump in the general election. polls are closing in the eastern
half of kentucky. right now we expect the first vote tallies very soon. less than an hour voting ends in the western half of kentucky. once all the polling places are closed, we may be able to project the winner in that state. the front-runner hillary clinton is looking for a kentucky victory. she's hoping to bounce back from the big loss in neighboring west virginia a week ago. bernie sanders is aiming for a win in oregon. he wants to bolster his claim that he still has a slim chance of actually winning the nomination. a total of 116 pledged democratic delegates are at stake. we'll get the first results out of oregon after 11:00 p.m. eastern. the presumptive nominee donald trump is confident of winning delegates in oregon. let's go to jeff who is covering the democrats for us and there's an escalating dispute right now
pretty ugly within the party. >> there is indeed. this long democratic primary fight relatively civil up until now. it's exploding into something we've not yet seen before on this side of the race, all coming out of the nevada convention over the weekend. we saw the ugly pictures of people shouting and throwing things. this is more of the exception than the rule. most state parties where they assign these delegates have been relatively peaceful, but this show the sanders supporters are running out of patience as this race moves to an end here. har harry reid is furious at bernie sanders. he's friends with him. he believes the sanders campaign did not do enough to tamp this down. so look for senator sanders to address that night. he is going to be coming here to california. he believes that he still has a
slim chance of winning. he's trying to win states up until then, but june 7th is when california votes. bernie sanders competing so aggressively here for that. the reality is what is causing all this anger is hillary clinton is winning. she's not going to reach her magic number of 2383 tonight, but her campaign believes she will get closer to that and could reach it before california. they are holding out of a possibility for a win in kentucky. she's been campaigning there more than she has in several weeks even as she turns her attention to donald trump here. so the clinton campaign not having any events tonight at all. they're trying to pivot and move beyond this. what happens in kentucky tonight if she gets a win will be a moral victory for her as this race goes on for about a month longer about of she can turn all her attention to donald trump. >> all right. stand by. i want to check in with jim
acosta. he's covering developments in the donald trump campaign. what's the latest on that front? >> reporter: a little while ago the campaign manager for donald trump corey lewandowski told us that donald trump will continue to drive the message of this campaign and dropping a couple of news bombshells in the last hour. the questions about whether or not he will release his tax returns, he filed his personal financial disclosure forms yesterday. the trump campaign announcing that today. we can put these numbers up on screen. according to these forms filed trump is saying his latest reported income is $557 million and a net worth of $10 billion, but we should point out at this point we have not been able to independently look at those documents because they have not been released yet because they were just filed. as for that other big news that
is coming in the form of an interview that donald trump did with a news organization earlier today. during that interview he said he would not make any cuts to social security. that puts him at odds with house speaker paul ryan. there was talk about whether entitlements would be reformed. donald trump is saying about social security no cuts. the final thing in that interview donald trump saying he is willing to talk to the north korea leader kim jong-un. that's going to be a big development in this campaign. i remember back in 2008 when then senator barack obama said he was willing to sit down with the iranian leader. donald trump saying he's willing to talk to kim jong-un should do the same on both sides of the aisle. >> stand by. i want to get back to you as
well. donald trump gives these interviews and he drops these bo bombshells that he's willing to have a direct dialogue with kim jong-un. that's amazing. >> that's amazing for a lot of reasons and what's more amazing is we're talking about donald trump as the presumptive nominee, david, and the real political story tonight is the turmoil on the democratic side. who would have thought? >> listen, where we are is a pretty precarious moment for hillary clinton. as jeff just reported, she is on the path to get to the magic number. she's likely to be the democratic nominee barring something none of us can see right now, but yet this contest goes on but as bernie sanders continues to have these nights of victories and his supporters continue to feel more emboldened about this cause they've been
supporting, what we saw in nevada is the result of that because this contest is still giving life to their movement even though the path to the nomination is clearly cut off. >> and they very well could see that kind of fuel going in to their movement because of the results tonight. even the clinton campaign is saying they expect to lose oregon. it's hard to track because there hasn't been reliable polling and kentucky is a place where hillary clinton has advertised, spent money because she doesn't want that to go to the way of indiana or michigan and states where she thought she was going to win and then ended up getting surprised at the end of the day. >> without exit polls tonight we won't know how this shakes out in terms of who showed up and why, but i'll tell you some clinton supporters are watching to see if something similar is going to happen on the ground that happened in west virginia is that folks who say they're going to vote for donald trump
in november are there because they are registered democrats and they can vote in the primary and cast a vote for bernie sanders. >> it's the solid democratic south. a lot of people who vote republicans are registered democrats. wolf. >> all right. thanks very much. we have our first key race alert of the night right now coming out of the eastern part of kentucky. the polls are closed and 1% of the vote is in. hillary clinton has a slight lead. only a few hundred votes have been counted so far. 49.5% for hillary clinton and 37.8% for bernie sanders. maybe only 1,000 votes have been counted so far. we'll get more vote tallies coming in over the next hour. all of the polls closed at the top of the hour. we're standing by for more early votes in kentucky. if hillary clinton pulls off a new win tonight, how soon might she be able to clench the democratic nomination.
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51.1% to 38% for bernie sanders. just changed again, hillary clinton with a slight lead over bernie sanders but it's very early in this contest. anderson. >> thanks very much. in terms of what you are looking for tonight and all that's gone on today, what are you looking for? >> again, as we were talking about earlier if sanders wins two more, it's not going to matter in terms of the math because hillary clinton will still be the presumptive nominee heading into the convention with the super delegate count, et cetera, but then we will all be able to say she hasn't won a primary since april and that's not a good narrative for her particularly heading into the state of california. so she's going to have to figure out a way to continue to address those sanders people and try and bring them together and pivot to donald trump and that's not easy. >> it's not an easy thing to do.
>> no. this is where i believe at a certain point bernie sanders ought to help her out and at a certain point the president of the united states who has so far been hamstrung will help her out. it's a question of when he will feel comfortable getting into this race. >> as you said in the last hour she would like to pivot to a general, she would like to probably tack right to try to get some of those independents and get some republicans maybe who don't want to vote for donald trump and yet she can't. >> right now trump is helping bernie sanders and that is a dynamic that we really need to consider because she is being weakened by the trump attack and meanwhile sanders wants to go into that convention slim as a possibility as it is and say i can do better in a general election than hillary clinton. and his one shot aside if something were to happen with the server or something like that and some fallout, but his one shot is that she is so
chipped at by this message that she is damaged goods walking into that convention and he can have some credibility in saying look, i can run a better campaign against donald trump than you can. super delegates, pay attention to me. >> and maggie the more she loses the more damaged she appears before the convention. >> i think that is one aspect of it. i think the other aspect is sanders is putting forward an economic message and it's a clear economic message and it may not be one that the majority of the country would agree with, but clinton has been absent an economic message and that's been problematic for her. she's trying to fend off the attacks from trump. if she was able to articulate a version of what bill clinton did in '92, they want to talk about my past and i want to talk about your future, she might be able to move past this and right now
she appears boxed in and at the same time she spent many months saying i can't wait to take on donald trump and fight him and that's not being shown right now. she says i'm still in this fight with bernie sanders, but that isn't going to change any time soon. >> she wanted to run against cruz and now she's up against something she didn't want to look at. >> i think there were people in her orbit that did want to run against trump. there were people around her who thought trump would be great, this is the race you get. you wanted trump and you now have trump. >> we're waiting for votes out of kentucky. we'll see if clinton's early leads holds after this break. [burke] at farmers,we've seen almost everything,
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welcome back. let's get another key race alert right now. in kentucky the democratic presidential primary, more votes are coming in. it's still early. 1% of the vote right now. hillary clinton ahead by 590 votes over bernie sanders. she has 54% and he has 38%. it's still very early in kentucky. the polls have closed in the eastern part of the state. they remain open in the western part of the state. all the polls will close by the top of the hour and that's when we might be able to make our first projection. let's check in with john king at
the magic wall. he has a closer look at the delegate count. >> as we watch the first results come in oregon on the west coast, the kentucky results we're only at 1% of the vote. secretary clinton with an early lead. here's what she's looking for tonight. she wants to get a big turnout here in fayette county. she's ahead by 60% at the moment, but a small number of votes counted right now. she's looking for a large margin in jefferson county. that's where louisville is. she has done well in democratic primaries where she can get a significant african-american turnout. secretary clinton wants to win in kentucky because in part if sanders wins he will appoint to this. senator obama beat clinton in 2008. you're going to look here to see if senator sanders can pull it
off tonight he will point to the history, but the margins matter because you mentioned the delegate race. secretary clinton, 298. just shy of a 300 lead among pledged delegates. this is pledged delegates on p top. if you pull out the state of kentucky, assume sanders wins, but if he were to get that and win 55/45, but he would get a net gain of a delegates there and that's the challenge because if bernie sanders won there and got a decent win out of oregon tonight, let's say maybe it would be bigger than that, but that's 60/40, even if that happens he starts to cut in a little bit but not enough. that's the biggest challenge. senator sanders including tonight 11 democratic contests left to catch hillary clinton he needs 67% of those delegates.
if he doesn't win by 66%, 67% in kentucky tonight, that makes it harder going forward. can sanders catch up, but the challenge is not just winning, but he has to win with 67% or more. if he doesn't get there tonight it makes the hill steeper. it ends june 14th in the district of co lelumbiacolumbia >> as a clinton supporter how much more complicated does it become for her the longer sanders is in. he's going to stay in through the convention. >> right. no one that i know of associated with the campaign and starting with secretary hillary clinton no one has suggested that senator sanders go anywhere or do anything different other than maybe lighten up the message a little bit. other than that he's going to continue to run. she'll win, he'll win, they'll split and all that.
her lead will continue and it will stay in the 280, 290, 300 range and then the contest is over. >> does it prevent her from pivoting to the right a little bit. >> eight years ago we were in the same situation. then senator clinton won seven of the last ten races. we went on in denver to nominate senator barack obama to be the next president of the united states of america. this is all very interesting and a lot of things play out. she's going to finish strong and she's going to be the nominee and will have the required 2383 and beyond pledged and super delegates and she's going to get nominated in philadelphia. >> since i'm neutral and i can speak as a neutral super delegate. >> as a neutral democrat. >> first of all, i applaud senator sanders for sticking in the fight. i know a lot of democrats are uneasy with that, but i don't
get a chance to vote until june 14th so allow me to vote, allow democrats across the country to have their say in this process. so that being said, she leads. she leads with more voters, more pledged delegates and more super delegates. the reason why i think some people are saying she wants to wrap it up, because you want to reserve your cash. cash is king and we're going up against a billionaire. we learned today how much -- >> 10. >> $500 million this year? i haven't seen that kind of money ever. >> we got to take a quick break. we'll have more with our panel on this. as we wait for votes out of kentucky we're learning from new pressure on bernie sanders. we'll have a report about that right after the break. & in a world held back by compromise, businesses need the agility to do one thing & another.
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there's some ugly developments developing within the democratic party right now resulting from what happened in nevada. update our viewers. >> reporter: democratic senators, colleagues of sanders have stayed away from sanders, not calling on him to quit, they say it's up to him when he should exit this race, but in light of the episode in nevada where we saw those protests get intense and a growing am in of democrats tell me that they believe that bernie sanders come june 7th when voting ends, assuming he's still trailing hillary clinton should end the race. the senior democratic senator from california, i asked her today i said do you think that bernie sanders should quit if h is trailing come je 7th? she said i do and she added that i think it would be most
regretful if there becomes a skcism. other rank and file senators democrats tell me the same thing. they believe it's time for the party to come together for bernie sanders to consider a way out, but all eyes will be on harry reid, the senate minority leader, someone who has a close relationship with bernie sanders. i asked him if he thinks bernie sanders should quit. he said not at this point, but reid is angry at bernie sanders, the way that sanders has dealt with the fallout after nevada. sanders blaming party leaders for shutting out his supporters. he thinks bernie should do better. whether he changes his tone on how long bernie should stay in that's something a lot of democrats in washington are watching. >> thanks very much. i want to go over to dana and david. this fight that developed over the last few days in nevada and the death threats to the nevada
state democratic party chair, all that coming in. it's pretty awful. >> it is awful. we've heard democrats kind of in some ways not making fun of, but sitting back and sort of doing this looking at the republicans over the past however many months because they had an intense primary fight and now we have this going on with the democrats. i was looking at the story today about this about barbara boxer who was there in nevada as a representative for clohillary clinton and getting cursed at and shout at, this is at a convention of her own party. >> i think this speaks to sort of this moment in politics that we're in right now. it's sort of like watching twitter play out in real time with real people. that's kind of what this nevada convention sort of looked like. the nastiness that we see online, the invective that is tossed around came to the
forefront with actual human beings. >> there's some video that we have of what happened. it's pretty ugly. >> it is ugly. i do think that bernie sanders is going to have to continue. i know he's issued a couple of statements and denounced the violence, but i think he's going to have to continue to work at this in a similar fashion to the way that hillary clinton has to work at getting her supporters to support barack obama. >> let's listen to this audio. [ booing ] >> there she is. >> i think barbara boxer was saying if you're booing me you're booing bernie sanders too. we stand for similar things. >> that is barbara boxer the senator from california, the story we were talking about. i think you hit on something,
the fact that harry reid, the senate democratic leader who is close to bernie sanders may not endorse but is close to bernie sanders is so upset and went out and said to the press, said to cnn that the statement that sanders released isn't good enough, he needs to do better. again, really tells you about the intensity about just the divide and the anger and how this is playing out, but also the uncertainty by people who are more establishment how to deal with this kind of stuff. >> you heard manu mention too diane finestein. she tried to play broker at her home. it feels like we're in that kind of moment where once we get through these contests somebody is going to have to bring hillary clinton and bernie
sanders together to -- the principals here are going to have to figure out a path forward if the party is going to be united come philadelphia. >> bernie sanders has a lot of leverage which clearly he doesn't want to give up when it comes to his key messages. wolf. >> all right. stand by. we have another key race alert. 2% of the vote in kentucky is in. hillary clinton maintains a lead. she's at 48.8% and bernie sanders 43.5%. about 10,500 votes have been counted. once again very, very early. anderson. >> thanks. let's turn back to our panel. maggie, how big a problem is this going into the convention for the democratic party between sanders and clinton supporters. >> it's not ideal and you saw in nevada a version of it over fairly low stakes. we're not talking about a huge number of delegates. i think it's going to be a
problem -- it has been a problem in general as a talking point for the clinton campaign that trump's nomination wrapped up before hers did. mathematically yes it's going to be hard for sanders -- impossible for sanders to get there, but that doesn't matter that these images still go on i think you are going to have -- you have two -- if clinton is the nominee and trump is the presumptive nominee you have two major party nominees with high negatives. trump's are historically high and clinton's are not as high, so it's going to be a version of a race featuring two pretty unpopular politicians. so when people are not energized and i'm not certain how extensive democratic voting registration are. they don't seem to have mobilized to the degree they had hoped to this point, all those things add up. if you are trump, on the one
hand he has an enormous ability to manipulate the media and the narrative, but he also believes that -- has operated by the y had that all press is good press. that's not true in politics. all press is not good press in politics. >> hillary clinton has never had a hillary movement. that is something that maybe the bernie sanders people believe in, but she hasn't had that at this point. i think that at a certain point and i remember how tough it was in 2008 between hillary clinton and barack obama and then they had that moment at the convention where she called for obama to be nominated unanimously, they started the roll call and it was cor graphed and he helped pay off her campaign debt, but there was that moment where everybody was watching that and suddenly everything seemed to melt. i don't know whether that's
possible to happen this time. a lot depends on bernie sanders and hillary and the president of the united states and it also depends on the person they are running against. and they may not have a good mobilization effort yet, but donald trump may be their best mobilization. >> she's right there's never been a public never hillary movement, but there has been something busling under the surface. 44% of bernie sanders supporters said they would vote for donald trump. >> that's in west virginia. >> in every state there has been a significant number that said they wouldn't get behind clinton. there's insider versus outsider going on here and if you step back why were bernie sanders supporters acting that way? why were they acting that way. nevada has a three tier caucus system. the rules were changed to
nullify the second tier of the caucuses. there were 56 bernie sanders delegates that were decertificatefied enough to give bernie sande -- >> we have 69 days before the convention starts in philadelphia so a lo tt of thin will happen. there will be many conversations. certainly the president of the united states of america who is eager to be in this election will help to bring the various parties together. eight years ago i was in a different position was a hillary clinton supporter, ultimately everybody then was on board for barack obama. i'll go back and say senator sanders has to deal with what just happened. that's not what democracy looks like. that is not going to be tolerated in philadelphia. you can be energetic but you should not engage in an
arkansasky. he has been forceful out on the campaign trail talking about many of the issues. he has incredibly important rhetoric. we need that about tamping down this kind of behavior. it's unacceptable. he has to say it and help people get themselves together. >> this has to be done, but let's not elevate this to the level of chicago in '68. we're not anywhere near that level of division. this is pretty low-level stuff. it needs to be addressed by the candidate, you're absolutely right and i would imagine he will. >> yeah, it will be interesting to see what sanders does. >> whatever happened back in '68, was it on tv in five seconds? >> actually it was. >> in '68 it was. >> on television, yes. >> i know it was on tv, i saw it, but you didn't have the level of communication ability
in 1968 that you have in 2016 to really get people energized and excited. >> it's in bernie sanders' interests to shut this down too and he ought to very quickly. >> it looks like we're having a tightening race in kentucky. hillary clinton took an early lead in kentucky, but 3% of the vote in, but hillary clinton ahead by only 459 votes, 47.9% to 45.5%. a tightening race. the last polls close at the top of the hour so we're going to have a lot more ahead in kentucky. will we be able to project a winner at the top of the hour? stay with us to find out.
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welcome back. bernie sanders pulled ahead of hillary clinton with only five % of the vote. bernie sanders up by 362 votes out of about 30,000 votes that have been counted so far. relatively still early but this is the first time bernie sanders pulled ahead of hillary clinton. we're closing in on the top of the hour right now. that's when the last polling
places will close in kentucky. we may be able to project a winner in the democratic presidential primary. the front runner, hillary clinton is looking for a win in kentucky to add to the all important delegate count that would take her closer to clinching the nomination. bernie sanders won in west virginia a week ago that might give momentum in the state next door. 55 democratic delegates are up for grabs in kentucky. the democrats will split proportion anytigtionally proportionally. hillary clinton 140 delegates short of the number she needs to lock up the nomination. that's counting pledged and superdelegates. sanders trails her by more than 700 total delegates right now. the republicans all but certain nominee donald trump won the kentucky gop primary, by the way, back in march. let's go to jeff zeleny coming to the democratic race for us right now. what's the latest over there, jeff? >> reporter: wolf, if there is
anything keeping hillary clinton's spirits up during this last month of the race, it's history. i'm told by two top advisors, she remembers well in 2008 how barack obama was losing in the final stretch of ten contests. we sort of forget this now but he only won three out of the last ten contest, she won six out of the last ten contest and they tied one, but that was not enough to put her over the top. she believes a similar series of things are unfolding now and that she will not win as many as bernie sanders going away but will still of course hold on her delegate lead. that's a reason her campaign is down playing these primary nights. they are not holding an event tonight. she's not doing anything at all about this but watching the results, but wolf, she believes that mathematically speaking tonight she'll be within 100 delegates needed to reach that 2383, that magic number of reaching that party's nomination here and i'm also told she's not as worried about party unity as
some of these other democrats. the clinton campaign is watching reports of what happened in nevada over the weekend but someone that talked to her today told me, wolf, she believes bernie sanders will come around just like she did and she remembers all too well in 2008 the first ballot at the democratic convention in denver, it went for her. her delegates were able to voice their support and then she, of course, put barack obama's name in nomination. so she believes bernie sanders will come around here. they are not worried about that but need to get through the next three or four weeks of contest before she finally moves on to donald trump, wolf? >> california june 7th and final contest a week later june 14th, the district of colombia. >> that's right. >>acosta. what's the latest on that front? >> donald trump got a taste of what the general election campaign is going to be about
with the super pac ads aimed at the real estate tycoon and put out by a prohillary clinton super pac and i was told they know these attacks are coming, that they weren't caught off guard by them in any way as this one advisor put it to me earlier today, wolf, we know where these attacks are going to be coming from and know what donald trump's weaknesses are but in the words of this advisor saying to the clinton campaign, they have to be careful about this, rejecting the notion those attacks will be effective and saying quite frankly, wolf, people out there, voters know what donald trump's relationships with women have been like, that this is not a major, you know, urgent news bulletin coming out of the clinton campaign ads. when i talked to this advisor, he was stressing that people have to look at what donald trump has done throughout the course of his business career. look at the people he's hired. another notion that was backed up by trump's personal attorney
michael cohen saying throughout donald trump's history of being a business tycoon, nobody attacked donald trump on who he hired at his company. >> jim acosta thank you. 6% of the vote is in. bernie sanders has a lead at 47.3%. hillary clinton 45.5%. he's up by 681 votes. very, very close right now. 6% of the vote is in. let's walk over to dana and david right now. very close contest. dana, right now in kentucky 6% of the vote is in. we're beginning get some real numbers. >> we are. at least at the very beginning, as you said, it's not looking great for hillary clinton. even as looks like it is possible, under score possible, she cold lose both of the contests tonight. she is waging a two-front war. she's still and her super pac are aggressively going after donald trump who is kind of, you
know, out there as the last man standing on the republican side. >> take a look at the timing of that. obviously the super pac and campaign aren't allowed to talk but the super pac launches the first attacks against donald trump to define him and the clinton campaign is going hard after donald trump's taxes. it seems as if the clinton campaign may want us to not focus on election returns tonight or those supporting her and they would rather us focus on this battle they are trying to wage and get ahead of to define donald trump early. but here is the problem, dana. unlike -- some of what they are doing is looking at the playbook of how the obama campaign successfully defined mitt romney in 2012 but the problem for the clinton folks here is that donald trump had a very successful year branding himself. >> that's right. >> and it is very hard now for the clinton folks to get in and try to redefine somebody that's been defined in the american imagination. >> no question about that. as much as he's defined himself, he also has been up against
people on the republican side who have tried to define him. not a democrat trying to kind of point out what they believe are weaknesses when it comes to the general electret, which is quite different. >> a lot of pressure rather than pivot, if you will. let's go to john king taking a closer look at kentucky. what are you seeing? >> the map, 26-20 so far. clinton with 26. 11 contests left including this evening kentucky and oregon. up to 7% of the count. we're just getting started. senator sanders as you noted a few minutes ago opened up a modest lead. what will we look for here? number one we'll look here in the louisville area and the most important in a democratic primary, african american and core democrats here at the moment. secretary clinton with the lead but 320 to 264 a modest number of votes counted there as we wait for the rest of the polls
to close and the central part of the state into lexington, fayette county, 7% of the state population again, african american base of the democratic party. secretary clinton with a ten-point lead at the moment. she'll need a cushion like that if she with stands sanders in the state but it's very early. 2008, obama won those then senator obama won the two cou y counties with significant african american vote and ran it up in the rule counties. watch the map. if she can win in the louisville area and hold her own as you see in early results, trade the rural parts thanks will keep her competitive. the margin here would be embarrassing for secretary clinton to lose the states she won in 2008 but wants to keep it close. she wants to keep it close. >> the polls closed in the
eastern part of kentucky and the last hour the top of the last hour they are about to close in the rest of the state right now. will we be able to make a projection or if not, let's take a closer look right now. we got a pretty close contest shaping up in kentucky among the democrats. let's get a key race alert. we're not able to make a projection. too close to call. look how close with 7% of the vote counted in kentucky right now. bernie sanders maintains his lead 47.2%, 45.7% for hillary clinton. he's only up by 647 votes. he's got 20,300. very, very close contest right now. we are not able to make a projection, at least right now it is too close to call. anderson. >> wolf blitzer, thanks very much. we're joined by michael smerconish and david axle rod. for hillary clinton losing kentucky, how bad would that be? >> honestly, i don't think it will be that bad. you look at basicly