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close race. we'll keep counting them. >> thanks very much. it's the top of the hour. the results are coming in from the democrat primary. in kentucky it's a tight contest to say the least. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm anderson cooper with a special edition of ac 360. key race alert 55 delegates at stake and hillary clinton had been counting on getting most of them as she tries to put bernie sanders away and moves closer to the nomination, but sanders has won the last two states and he's not going away. as the votes are counted there's a growing concern among democrats that sanders could upend the convention. there are fears about chaos in philadelphia this summer. sanders supporters were lifting
chairs, threats as clinton emerged with more delegates. sanders is unapologetic saying the violence cuts both ways. as clinton pivots towards the general election a super pac targets donald trump. comments about women will air on tv ads in battle ground states. both contestss are in oregon while trump moves toward locking up the nomination. >> look how close it is in kentucky. hillary clinton is ahead by 147 right now. 62% of the vote has actually been counted. 46.6%, 46.6%. look at how close it is, 260,000 votes have been counted. hillary clinton is ahead by 147 votes. meanwhile there are some growing concerns right now about a growing split among democrats.
the fear is that the chaos seen this weekend in nevada could play out at the party's convention in philadelphia in july. there are urgent efforts under way to try to patch up serious differences, but a defiant statement by bernie sanders is raising new questions. let's go to our senior political reporter manu raju. >> reporter: we have not seen this level of contention all primary season, but after that nevada convention we're seeing democratic party leaders raise concern if bernie sanders does not do more to reign in the supporters or if he doesn't get out of the race when voting concludes june 7th it will be much harder for the party to unite after that july convention. one senior democrat dick derbin i had a chance to talk to him about what he saw in nevada. he said we saw what happened at
the trump rallies which broke into violence. people punching one another. i don't want to see that happen at the democratic party. he's calling on the sanders campaign to do more. similarly harry reid had a phone conversation with bernie sanders earlier today and believed they were on the same page going forward, but after bernie sanders released a campaign statement saying that actually they don't condone any of the violence but he criticized party leaders for their own tactics in shutting out supporters harry reid is critical of bernie sanders. said it was a sillily statement. bernie sanders could do better he said. we're seeing this tension intensify. >> look how close it is right now. 63% of the vote has been counted. bernie sanders has now taken a slight lead. he's up by 546 votes. 46.6% for bernie sanders and
46.5% for hillary clinton. i want to bring in jeff weaver. he's joining us live. thanks for joining us. a lot of tension right now as you well know. did your campaign tell your supporters to quote take over that democratic convention in nevada? >> well, as you know, wolf, we put out a statement before the convention telling people that they should act civilly and we should do this in an orderly manner. we do not condone any violence or threats. that's unacceptable from anybody, but i have to say that anybody who has watched this and if you talk to nina turner former state senator from ohio who was there on the floor of the convention in nevada, it was a pretty unfair process. the leadership there that was running it was not following the rules. they were overruling voice votes on the floor to get the result they wanted. it was a pretty i think unfair
spectac spectacle. >> we're showing the video. you can see it right now. the nevada state democratic party said -- and they were blunt they said you've been cited for the violence. jeff weaver's allegations are false and refusal to apologize for the death threats and har s harassment against the state party chair is unacceptable. that from the state democratic party executive director. do you want to apologize for that? >> look, senator sanders said these claims that our campaign is fermenting violence are nonsense. the problem is there are concerns about unfair treatment out in the nevada democratic party. that's been documented. back in the clark county convention they almost tried to arrest their own credentials chair because she was being too fair to the sanders people.
it's been an unfair process. we do not condone violence or threats. that's unacceptable. bad language, that's unacceptable, but we are not going to allow the millions of people who supported bernie sanders to be rolled over in places like nevada by the way they handled that convention. >> i'm sure you'll agree and i want to you listen to this because roberta lang started receiving death threats from bernie sanders supporters who posted her address and phone number online. i want you to listen to this. >> i just wanted to let you know that i think people like you should be hung in a public execution to show this world that we won't stand for this sort of corruption. i don't know what kind of money they're paying for you, but i don't know how you sleep at night. you are a sick, twisted piece of [ bleep] and i hope you burn for this [ bleep] off the stage. i hope people find you.
>> what can you and senator sanders supporters what can you do to stop this kind of vile talk? >> we could condemn those kind of talk and phone calls, there's no doubt about it, 100% condemn them but let me say at the convention there were clear voice votes from the floor that were ignored. you cannot have a convention where you have a process which you then ignore and do what you want to do. that doesn't condone what that gentleman said on that phone call. that's unacceptable under any circumstances, there's no context in which that is acceptable, but in terms of the process that went on in nevada it was unfair, it was clearly un-si uu one sided and it got the result that was wanted regardless of the rules. >> as you know senator sanders released a statement that dismissed the concerns raised by the democratic party chairwoman
in nevada and i guess the critics are asking does he take any personal responsibility for the actions of his supporters in that state? >> look, the senator has millions of supporters. obviously there are some people like that gentleman in that phone message who act outrageously. secretary clinton had one of her celebrity surrogates was arrested for assaulting sanders supporters. this happens when people are not part of the campaign act unacceptably and that happens. we condemn that absolutely. that does not excuse the fact that the democratic in nevada operated their convention in a way that was unfair and against the very rules that they put out. >> i guess the big concern among democrats right now and you're familiar with this concern is that there could be -- that all of these actions potentially
could encourage violence at the democratic convention in philadelphia in july. there's a lot of concern among democrats that this could happen. what's your message to those folks who are obviously very passionate right now, they don't like the process and potentially could get violent and we hope it doesn't happen in philadelphia? >> there's not going to be any violence in philadelphia, wolf, i guarantee you that. we hope for a fair and orderly convention. i think everybody wants that. i think the ultimate nominee is we want to unify the party on the back end of the convention so we can go out and defeat donald trump in the fall. what happened in nevada i think is an aberration in large parts driven by the way that that party handled itself. we've been involved in conventions all across this country in states from one end of the country to the other. nothing like this has happened and so this is really tied to what went on in nevada itself. >> jeff, look at how close it is
in kentucky right now. 65% of the vote has been counted. bernie sanders has a lead of 2,236 votes. he's got 46.9%. hillary clinton is 46.1%. it's very close. what's your prediction? what about kentucky tonight? >> well, given how close it is i don't know that i have a prediction because this ask a state that the secretary won in 2008 so i think we're seeing here what we saw in west virginia which is another state that she won in 2008 and lost by double digits last week. i think there are a lot of democrats having second thoughts and i know the media is ready to call this race over, but i think voters in the various states want to see this race go on. i think they want to hear more from the candidates about where they want to take the country so i don't think the voters are ready for this to be over. >> we'll hear from senator sanders in california. we'll have live coverage of that
coming up as well. jeff weaver thanks for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. happy to do it. >> thank you dana and david are with us of course. a lot of concern. i know jeff says there's not going to be violence in philadelphia -- >> he said i guarantee that. >> you see how passionate some of the supporters are. if hillary clinton is going to do well against donald trump in november they have to unite the party. >> i was struck by how jeff weaver said we're not going to let anybody roll us. we won't let our supporters be rolled and on the other hand saying that they understandly condemn the violence. you can't have both. you can defend your supporters and condemn violence but it's hard to do that with the campaign manager and this statement they put out today especially according to democratic leaders who are very
concerned about this. they want to hear from bernie sanders about this. >> we'll hear from him tonight. >> jeff weaver totally condemning the voice mail and language and nature of it, but was still throughout your entire interview portraying himself as the agrieved party here. they have a bill of particulars that they feel the process did not go fairly in nevada. they think the committee, they don't think that state party ran the process according to the rules and they feel agrieved and what's interesting to me is there's no moment there where i heard jeff weaver indicate that the sanders campaign is moving beyond being agrieved into the next phase of this conversation. he wanted to remain an agrieved party here because he wants to let the supporters know they have this champion here. >> a little bit of palace intrigue here that this is about nevada, harry reid who is the
leader democrats he's from nevada. so to challenge the party is to challenge him and even if it's his friends he doesn't sort of play well when it comes to those things. >> bernie sanders and harry reid are close friends. >> they are close friends and even somebody who is close to reid confirmed that to me tonight that they feel like outsiders in this inside world but at the same time reid is very productive of all things nevada particularly the democrats. >> it will be important to hear what bernie sanders says in that big speech out in california. a huge crowd getting ready to hear him. let's go back to john. >> as we're watching the votes come in, we're up to 65% in the state of kentucky and it's a competitive race. the lead at the moment for senator sanders is up 46.9% to 46%. one of the things we're waiting for is fayette county where you
have a significant african-american base. this is key to secretary clinton's lead in the state. for quite a long time now we were told there was a machine counting problem in fayette county and we were expecting to get a large jump in the percentage of the returns from fayette county soon and that will be telling about the race going forward because as you look again senator sanders with a narrow lead but there are more than enough votes in fayette county and jefferson county for her to come back. if you're in the clinton war room and you're watching this map fill in knowing that fayette county has a lot of votes to report, what you're hoping for is this stays consistent. if it stays in that range, she has more than enough chance to catch up. as we watch the rest of the vote you see some of these smaller counties, 88% in here, a narrow
lead for senator sanders. if fayette and jefferson continue to come in at the right now these smaller wins won't be enough of a pad for sanders to overcome that. an area of the state that has become more important these three counties up here, essentially the cincinnati suburbs. 8.6%, 8.7% and clinton winning all three counties. she's winning up there, winning in the lexington area and louisville area. he won in most of the eastern coal counties. they're splitting. you saw secretary clinton has jumped ahead here. she's up by a little more than 2,000 votes. let's see if it came from fayette. no. still at 8% here and a ten point
lead here. that's encouraging for the clinton campaign. that was a bigger jump in jefferson county. you see her pulling out there with a huge lead there. this is the largest county in the state. has a significant african-american base. it's the base a lot of clinton campaign operations and her stops in the state were focussed on this part of the state. you see a very close race with secretary clinton in the lead. if you're in the war room you're encouraged by what you saw happen in jefferson county and that you're awaiting more votes from fayette county and you're expecting your margin will stay the same and maybe grow as those votes come in here. a close race. no matter how it ends up democratic proportional rules if senator sanders can win this it would be huge because she won it with 65% of the vote in 2008, but that would be a moral victory for senator sanders but
he needs 67% of the remaining delegates and no candidate is getting 67% of the vote in kentucky tonight. >> under democratic rules there's proportional distribution of delegates in all of the states as far as pledged delegates are concerned. look at how close it is right now. hillary clinton has a very slight lead. she's up by 2,149 votes right now. 71% of the vote is now in. stand by for more votes. we're waiting to hear directly from senator sanders, a very large crowd gathering right now for his rally in california. much more coming up right after this.
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what happened. it didn't seem like there was violence. there was certainly anger and frustration. >> there is something astride our politics and it's both sides that i think is really disturbing. this notion that the system's fixed and the system's rigged and therefore any active incivility is justified in response. we've seen it on both sides in this campaign and it's sort of being legitimate and i was disappointed that jeff weaver said we were being treated unfairly as if being treated unfairly was a justification. >> i think we've seen this from the sanders campaign for a while. this idea that they're kind of sore losers. if you look back at hillary clinton's wins in the south, they said those states shouldn't
have gone so early. they lose in new york and it was a closed primary, some of the voters got tossed off the rules. in nevada when they first lost a lot of supporters said this was controlled by the democrat machine and the scales were tipped on hillary clinton's side and i think that's a bad pattern and doesn't bode well for philadelphia because they tend to be sore losers. >> this is the same bernie sanders who is asking super delegates who run the parties to please now switch sides and be with him at the convention after railing against the process. one thing jeff weaver said is we will not allow bernie sanders supporters to be rolled over. i totally get that. i understand that emotion. you don't want your supporters to be rolled over, but the question is that's in conflict here. >> he's run a very inspiring campaign. he deserves all the credit in
the world for it. i identify with the young people out there supporting him. he is not losing the nomination because he's been treated unfairly. he's losing the nomination because he's gotten 3 million less votes and he hasn't gotten enough delegates. it is a disservice to those people who are supporting him to suggest to him otherwise. >> i see it somewhat differently. give me a moment here. i want to try to walk through i think what's going on. first of all, i think both weaver and sanders missed an opportunity tonight. what's a standard when somebody in your movement does something violent? the standard is ghandi. if he found out there was one person assaulted he would shut the movement down for two years. i think there was a big opportunity for sanders to come out and say full stop, no
threats against anybody. he did not do that and i think that was a big mistake. but i also think that hillary clinton missed some opportunities earlier that i think we have to hold her accountable for as well. when you were talking about new york, there was a sense that there was some tampering with the voting. whether it was right or wrong, she had an opportunity to say i don't want that. there have been many times when the sanders people have complained and cried out that they said we don't feel we're being treated right. hillary clinton should have come forward and said under no circumstances should anybody do anything. what you're seeing with this party is the two most important leaders are staring down the barrel of a split. i think bernie missed the opportunity tonight, but hillary clinton should have been more forthcoming. >> i was here in new york. i have no idea what you're
talking about, but i don't know of any hillary supporters who threaten death. that is what was on the tape that we played and i do think mr. weaver has run a great campaign but he's made a mistake. the notion of sanders supporters in nevada being steam rolled when they're threatening violence, bernie lost nevada. hillary won nevada. hillary should get more delegates from nevada. if the sanders campaign is trying through some convention to overturn the vote of the people in nevada, that's wrong. the notion that they're being steam rolled it happens. get over it. >> let's stipulate death threats are off the table. >> i love that sentiment. >> hold on a second. listen, that was one person. that wasn't bernie sanders. he should have handled that one person differently. the party is going to split over this and i think it's important.
what happened there, you are correct she should have gotten more delegates, but that convention, that thing was handled very badly and if you're hillary clinton i think you want to send a signal to your people bend over backwards to look fair and be fair. what happened? if you watch the youtube stuff, there were voice votes that were being called that were so unfair to bernie's people and she should speak out against that too. >> the nevada state democratic party chairman's general counsel issued a statement today where he put messages on there that i read, he didn't allege anything, there was more than one and they were violent. >> we have to take a break here. >> we can answer questions about roll calls -- >> donald trump is watching a tight democratic race in kentucky. he weighed in on twitter. he used the opportunity to take a jab the hillary clinton. more on that after the break.
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the polls closed in kentucky an hour and a half ago. let's get a key race alert. hillary clinton has a slight lead over bernie sanders. 82% of the vote is in. she's got 47.2% and he's got 46.2%. she's up by 3,700 votes. look at how close it is. 82% of the vote is in right there. let's go to john king who can explain why it's as close as it is. >> the big question now 3,700 vote lead hold up as we go through the final 18% of the vote. 46% to 47%. one thing we were waiting for was fayette county which the last time we showed was at 8% and now it's at 100%. they had a machine counting problem. you see the lead here. secretary clinton had a ten point lead and that went down a bit to 8%. she probably wanted a bigger
margin out of here as a cushion, but she gets an eight point margin. that's the reason she leads statewide right now. the other place your watching is jefferson county and almost an 18% lead in the louisville area. you look at the map and try to add it up. what's missing and can senator sanders make it up. most of the missing votes are down here. almost all of the eastern counties are 100%. here is one to keep an eye on, pike county still at 84% and a huge sanders lead. we'll see if this margin holds up. if the votes come in at roughly this margin, senator sanders will pick up some votes here. will it be enough? it's a smaller county. a narrow clinton lead now. if you're in her war room you're optimistic but we'll keep
counting. >> i want to go to jim acosta. he's over at trump tower here in new york city. jim, donald trump is also paying attention to what's going on in the democratic contest. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. donald trump is clearly enjoying watching this race between hillary clinton and bernie sanders from the sidelines. he is expected to win the oregon primary later on tonight. but he sent out a tweet not too long ago remarking that hillary clinton should just get out of the race if she can't beat bernie sanders in the state of kentucky. we'll put it on up screen. it says do you think crooked hillary will finally close the deal. if she can't win kentucky she should drop out of the race. system rigged is obviously an appeal to bernie sanders supporters. we've heard donald trump talk about how he thinks the system is rigged and i talked to a top trump adviser who clearly appears to be enjoying what's unfolu
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counted. a slight lead for hillary clinton right now. bernie sanders is far from calling it quits and a large crowd, look at this, is gathering right now for a sanders rally in california. we'll have live coverage of that when he starts speaking. let's go to anderson cooper right now for more. it's going back and forth but hillary clinton is slightly ahead. >> 84% of the vote has been counted. it's too close to call at this point. hillary clinton came forward a couple of days ago to talk about what role former president clinton would actually serve in her administration. she talked about him sort of being -- >> i think that was an ill conceived idea. i think she did it because she's very popular in kentucky. she was trying to win this primary and so she threw that out there, but i think it diminished her frankly because people expect the president of the united states to be their economic engine. they're not looking to outsource that and my guess is we're not
going to hear that again any time soon. >> they walked it back and said it's a little bit early to be talking about who you would appoint where. they were asked if it was a cabinet position and the campaign kind of said no, no, no. donald trump has said in the past that bill clinton did a great job on the economy in the '90s. >> i have to disagree. it's a rarity. i think it was a step in the right direction for her because that's the con ststituentsy she going to battle donald trump. >> bill clinton said elections are about the future. >> she has a problem as she's perceived as being part of the status quo in what is a changed election year in which the trump and sanders constituentsy play
into that. >> my husband, who i'm going to put in charge of revitalizing the economy because he knows how to do it -- >> right there. her word was revitalizing the economy as if somebody else who has been in charge of the economy for the last eight years. the obama administration has been running this. she was part of the obama administration and i can see that being used in an ad over and over and over again when donald trump talks about the economy where he has strong numbers running this and she's saying we got to do something because the economy's in the tank. >> i think david's point is the most important one that as a woman to hear another woman running to be leader of the free world say i'll give that job to my husband. even if your husband happens to have been president of the united states and you could argue maybe qualified on that, i would disagree. it just rings as unfortunate and you don't want her to go there.
i thought sort of casually that it had this whiff of well dad's retired, we've got to find him a hobby. we've got to get him a hobby. >> i don't think dad's retired. he's got a busy and full life. i'll say this -- >> how do we have time to revitalize the economy. >> he did a pretty good job on the economy and he's known for that. i saved a picture of president reagan upside abut people believed that about him. we often in these panels say hillary's too scripted and too careful. she is a careful and thoughtful person. this time she was having faund she tossed it out and now we're
jumping ugly with her. >> it's reminiscent of two for the price of one that bill clinton famously said. >> i disagree with you. she may have thrown it out, but i think she threw it out for a tactical reason because she's fighting for fights in kentucky and she thought bill clinton has appeal there. >> i think when you talk to voters and these are clinton voters particularly older voters, sometimes male voters, they will say they love hillary clinton, people who voted for her like her experience and they like the fact that bill clinton will be there too. >> i don't think it's that bad. first of all, when he ran he used her in the policy role with regard to health care for better or for worse, but there was no shame in that. there was no horrible thing. i think that bill clinton is still beloved by a lot of people. i think he's trusted on the economy. he was called the complainexpla
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there, up to 92%. secretary clinton maintaining that lead. you look at the map and try to figure out what's out there. i want to move this back to here. this is going to show us counties in the state where i've stopped that where they've counted less than 91% of the vote. counties that we know that has significant amount of votes outstanding. inside the clinton campaign you're encouraged about this. you're at 78% in jefferson county and she has a lead in jefferson county. so you see the number of votes higher than you'll see in the rural counties. if you're the clinton campaign you're hoping it's the last 20% plus comes in here and the margins stay the same. if it stays that way she eekz out a victory. coal country, a decent possibility of votes here. we have nothing so far from
hopkins county. we are checking why the counties are so slow. a chance for bernie sanders because as you see he's winning in webster county. he's winning by a significant margin there. only 71% of the vote in. reasonable to expect that senator sanders picks up more here, but in the larger county of hopkins can he pick up a decent amount of votes. and here in warren county, senator sanders winning, but 84% in. if that margin continues senator sanders will add some votes. there's no guarantee of that. if you're in the campaign war rooms right now you're doing what we're doing, you're checking in with these counties right now. you have 28 votes separating the two candidates and if you're in the war rooms right now you're checking with the folks in these counties and you're calling and trying to figure out what the count is. clinton was leading earlier. senator sanders has pulled ahead
with 91% of the vote. this one so close and we're up to 92% statewide we're going to keep counting them to the end. if you're inside the clinton campaign, you're source of encouragement is this. still in the largest county in the state by far the largest vote tallies as the votes come in, you have 22% to be counted and you have a healthy margin. if you're the clinton campaign you think you get a narrow victory but if you're in the sanders campaign some counts in the west where you have hope and pike county over here still at 84% in the eastern corner of the state coal country here and a big sanders lead here with 16% of the vote to be counted. this is a fun one. very close. if you wanted to say is there one slight advantage in this race as you're looking forward, if this stays the same, the likelihood is clinton gets a narrow win, but there are plenty of places where they still have
votes to count. >> look at this. look at how close it is. bernie sanders now slightly ahead, 126 votes ahead of hillary clinton. 93% of the vote is in. 46.6% to 46.5%. both of them have more than 190,000 votes each. bernie sanders with a slight advantage. only 126 votes ahead. let's go over to dana and david right now. this is really bragging rights because when all is said and done you know they're going to proportionally distribute the delegates, but in terms of the bragging rights, the momentum potentially it's significant. >> that's right which is why we are hearing from the clinton campaign tonight reminding us that clinton at this point eight years ago won many of these contests and barack obama was still well ahead and got the nomination because of pledged delegates just as hillary
clinton thinks she's going to today. having said all that, look at the picture on the screen right there. all of those people gathered. that's for a bernie sanders rally in california. it's unbelievable the kinds of crowds that he is gathering. i'm hearing from our producer already 1,200 people are gathered there and he hasn't even started yet. >> this they're wearing the sanders jersey and they're not ready to take it off yet. >> you have to give them credit. he draws these big crowds and hillary clinton will needs those supporters if she gets the nomination. as we watch this close race in kentucky hillary clinton's team has been lowering expectations. we'll get the latest from inside the clinton and sanders camps.
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john king is standing by over at the magic wall. look at how close it is right now. it doesn't get closer than this with 93% of the vote counted. >> no. look at this, 191,172 to 191,028. wow! as you noted proportional democratic rules that means they're going to equally split the delegates, but secretary clinton wants this to say i have a win and sanders wants it to say i won a state she won in 20. it won't give sanders the math he needs but it would give him a boost going forward. last time we spoke we were waiting for some of these counties. hopkins county came in with sanders a huge win. not a ton of votes. what are we waiting for still left? if you're in the clinton campaign you think your chance
for a narrow victory lies right here in jefferson county, she has a healthy lead but we'll keep counting. we are counting the votes. i'm anderson cooper. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world to a special edition of "ac 360." it's been back and forth between bernie sanders and hillary clinton. if this contest plays out there's fears of democrats of a split within the party following weekend disruptions in nevada which out maneuvered sanders supporters. sanders is doing nothing to calm establishment fears about similar disruptions in the