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worrisome development. what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right, we're hearing from democratic senators and leaders is that what we saw in nevada over the weekend, and with bernie sanders supporters felt they were disenfranchised from the process and led to angry protests and outbursts both at hillary clinton supporters and at the party establishment. worry that this could be replicated come july. and this could actually hurt efforts for the party to unit and to heal and to go after donald trump. now, earlier, you spoke with wolf, jeff weaver, the campaign manager of bernie sanders who said that the nevada situation was an anomaly. something almost an isolated incident. and most sanders events are peaceful, but i've talked to a number of democratic senators and some have said that actually this is not a anomaly. they have noticed this over, all over the country, of course they are hillary clinton supporters and when they talk about promote hillary clinton, they get that from bernie sanders supporters. fe gene, new hampshire democrat
told me yesterday when i had a chance to speak with her about this, she said that this is -- this has been something that she has not sebastian pinera boyfriend. she said its been interesting to me because i've never experienced that before and i've been involved in every presidential campaign since 1976. we've had lots of people who have supported different candidates and have never seen that kind of behavior before. she's talking about heckling, outbursts, people interrupting her while she's speaking. that is really a development that party officials and leaders who want to support hillary clinton, they're seizing on after the nevada episode and hoping that this could convince bernie to either reign in supporters or push him out of the race come june when voting ends, wolf. >> thanks very much, reporting for us. let's bring in the chair of the democratic national committee, debbie wasserman schulz. thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks for having me, wolf. >> bernie sanders' campaign manager who had some tough words for the nevada state democratic party.
listen to what he told them. >> not any kind of violence or threats, that unacceptable, bad language, that's unacceptable. but we are not going to allow the million was of people who supported bernie sanders who will be rolled over in places like nevada by the way they handled that convention. >> sanders campaign says that the nevada state party, the democratic party prevented a fair and transimportant process, was it unfair? >> you know wolf, first, let me reiterated that democratic national committee remains neutral in this primary based on our rules. when i heard what happened at the nevada state democratic convention this weekend. i was deeply disturbed. regardless of any campaign or candidate's frustration over process, there should never be a bust when it comes to condemning violence and intimidation. violence and intimidation are never successful under any circumstances and what happened was unacceptable.
i was not at the convention, the democratic national committee didn't have anything to do with the way the meeting was run. but the bottom line is that we've had the same rules in place, you know, that elected barack obama and these rules were adopted for parties all across the country in 2014. they were followed and ian if the sanders supporters were frustrated, there is never under any circumstance a place for violence and intimidation to be resorted to in response. >> congresswoman, the nevada state democratic party said, and i'm quoting now that the sanders campaign staff and supporters insited violence and chaos. those are pretty strong words. the dnc believe the sanders campaign, that staffers actually incited violence? >> well, like i said, i was not there, but i do know, because there was video and acknowledgment, that chairs were thrown at the stage. that violence was used. the state party chair, roberta
lang who has worked in the trenches to elect democrats for decades has been threatened. her children, her child has been, has had implied threats where people have called and said they know where her child goes to school. this is unacceptable behavior. and the sanders campaign and senator sanders himself should not only outright condemn that specific conduct, but they also need to take steps to prevent it and make sure that they're supporters understand that the most important and correct way to respond to any frustration they have over process is to be civil and orderly. not respond with violence and intimidation. and that needs to be unequivocally condemned, and unfortunately, it has not unequivocally condemned. >> have you reached out directly to bernie sanders to talk to him about your concerns? >> i have not. we have communicated through our senior staff, and that is -- i
sent a statement and senator reid and others have spoken directly with senator sanders. i think it should be pretty clear to anybody that violence and intimidation is never acceptable and it should be condemned. and there are no if's, and's, or but's about it. >> why not make a phone call to senator sanders and tell him exactly what you just told us? >> you know, after i heard that senator reid, leader reid had had a conversation with senator sanders and he publicly announced that he felt that senator sanders was going to respond appropriate lid and issue a statement, i was comfortable that, you know, one conversation was enough. unfortunately the senator's response was anything but acceptable. it certainly did not condemn his supporters for acting violently or engaging in intimidation tactics and instead add more
fuel to the fire. like i said, buck frustrated with the process, but in the united states of america, and especially in the democratic party, it is never appropriate to act in any way other than civilly and orderly fashion. and address process concerns in al civil way. it is never okay for violence and intimidation to be the response to that frustration. that's what happens with the trump campaign. we can never resort to the tactics that they engage in. >> congresswoman how are you going to make sure, given the anger and the passion out there that you could prevent this kind of chaos from developing at the democratic national convention in philadelphia? >> well, i think that as a result of this happening this weekend, we will have conversations both at the staff level as well as my having conversations with the candidates so that we can make sure that both campaigns republican focussed on making
sure that we can allow this process for the duration of the primary to play out in a civil and orderly way. and make sure that we don't do anything that is going to make it more challenging for us to unify behind our echblg chul nominee so we can elect a democratic president, but it is incumbent upon all democratic leaders to make sure that they lead. that they speak out against violence and intimidation that those tactics be condemned and that instructions be given and plans made to communicate with supporters who may not always be familiar with the way the democratic process works. make sure they understand it, and let them know what they can expect and what the expectations of each campaign is of their own supporters in terms of of the way they act as the remaining delegate election process takes place. >> congresswoman, senator diane feinstein of california, woman you know well, she thinks bernie sanders should drop out of the race after the voting concludes
on june 7th in california, should senator sanders do that? >> no, i think senator sanders is right to have respect for his supporters and make sure that the remaining primaries can play out and those voters be given an opportunity to cast their ballots. and i'm sure the campaign is going to make and the senator are going to make a decision at the end -- at the primary nominating contest about what their next bets are. >> congresswoman debbie wasserman scholes, thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> let's go over to dana and david. she was blunt. >> very. that was a very telling interview that you just did with the head of the democratic party. she was talking about this statement which we showed earlier, this is the one page statement that the sanders campaign, senator sanders himself released about what happened in nevada. and she really condemned it. she said that it added more fuel
to the fire. and basically made clear that this is unacceptable, said that senator sanders has to come out and speak publicly. that is the kind of thing that we did hear at least just to cnn from the democratic leader in the senate. i think that that's one issue that was kind of illustrated in that interview. another, we got a window into what is going on be the party and sanders and clinton because the fact that she as the party chair didn't pick up the phone and say to sanders which she just said to you is indicative of the fact that there's been a very, very -- a lot of -- a lot of reluctance to believe that she's truly objective. >> one of the most -- >> she's not in the bag for hillary clinton and she clearly wanted harry reid to take the lead on this. >> one of the most tension-filled relationships in politics this cycle has been the relationship between the dnc and the sanders campaign. and its been on display.
you remember the whole data breach episode back in december? it never got back on course. and so, you know, the sanders camp has always sort of seen the dnc in the pocket of the clinton campaign. and the dnc is constantly trying to remind that their neutral here, but there is nothing neutral about that interview with debbie wasserman schulz. she's trying to police it. anything but acceptable with bernie sanders said. and the fact -- the fact that she allowed harry reid to take the lead is an -- it's sort of an abdication of her party leadership because you can see how frayed the relationship is. how effective would a call from deb by to bernie sanders be at this point? >> i think, you know, reading between the lines doesn't really take a lot to read in between those lines. not very effective because they haven't had a great relationship starting with the negotiations over how many debates would
happen at the beginning when the sanders campaign said that the dnc was trying to protect hillary clinton by not having more debates. the fact of the matter is when you look at this staumt, i know cnn has been reporting on it all day. it is true that senator sanders doesn't condemn the violence new mexico halfway down this page. the whole beginning, the first two, two and a half paragraphs is talking about the importance of standing up and the imperative of, you know, fighting for against the donors and standing up against wall street and so on and so forth. the kind of thing you hear over and over from sanders himself at campaigns at rallies and so forth, but it's very clear, the combination of what we just heard from debbie wasserman schulz, maybe more important from the democratic leader in the senate that probably going to have to say something. >> he's getting ready for a big speech. big speech in california, bernie sanders. we'll have live coverage and we'll see precisely what he says
about this very sensitive issue. anderson, over to you. >> am i talking about this with the panel? >> debbie wasserman schulz and bernie sanders probably wouldn't have a nice conversation on a good day, much less a bad day. >> even if he hadn't blocked her number. >> right. [ laughter ] >> reporte >> the do not call list. he has accused her of being in hillary clinton's camp. they have had problems with his data breach and as david was talking about, they don't like each other, even if she had called him, i'm not sure he would have picked up the phone, and i'm not sure how productive that conversation would have been particularly coming from her. >> what she just did is not productive at all. >> right. well -- >> and i'll tell you now, that just went done horribly. my phone is blowing up. listen, she didn't have to do that. she says that bernie's adding fuel to the fire. she just added fuel to the fire.
the problem that we have right now is that there has been this concern on the part of bernie's people that the dnc has been on mil ri's side. >> yeah. >> they had three debates, hitting like, you know, in the saturday at 2:00 a.m. because they were trying to protect hillary clinton. i don't think that was wise for her to do that. first of all, bernie did say, in his statement, that he's against the violence. also, if you want to talk about violence. only one person's been arrested, it was a hillary clinton supporter, wendel pierce arrested for assaulting a sanders supporter. if you're going to come out and talk about violence and you're the dnc chair, you have to be fair. i don't think she was fair. she actually made it worse now. we have to pull these people together, that did not happen. >> we're waiting to hear from bernie sanders, we expect to hear that within this hour. we're going to go to that. >> what this says, i think, is the democratic establishment is a little panicky and they don't know what to do here. you have all these people on the streets, you have people that are going to be on the floor of that convention using a process for platforms and whatever else,
and they're not sure somehow to handle this because they are getting increasingly terrified that if they do the wrong thing, people are going to go crazy on them. >> that's right, that's right. and it's saenator sanders is th most important voice here. he's not inadequate, you may not like what she's say, they're angry. no fuel on the fire. senator sanders needs to solely condemn violence and threats. this is what a leader of a movement does. gandhi, i'll set the bar a little lower. bob dole, 1996 -- >> is that lower? >> senator dole was receiving the nomination of the party and he said, we are the party of linco lincoln, and if if you don't welcome everyone, if every color and religion into our party, the exits are clearly marked. he told the bigots to get out of his party. and it was a great moment of leadership. buckly did that back in the day. bernie needs to do that. i think it's in his heart. he's a terrific guy. he's got a really good heart,
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votes, 99% of the vote is in. she has 46.7%, 46.3% for bernie sanders. i want to bring in allison in graims, she's a hillary clinton supporter. secretary, thanks very much for joining us. obviously this is an extremely close race in kentucky right now. are you ready to declare a winner with 99% of the votes in? >> we are still waiting on two prngts that are coming in from jefferson county. we should have those results, we believe within the hour and importantly under kentucky law, all official, all result totals tonight are unofficial results. until the end of may, may 31st is when the unofficial totals that you're seeing here tonight, across your screen, will become official vote teelts. what we're seeing out of the two precincts that are remaining, it's the northeastern corridor of jefferson county that's remaining. possible democratic votes
outstanding. 769 votes. we do not obviously anticipate all of those possible democratic votes to be cast, and obviously not making right now the unofficial vote totals any impact in the outcome anticipated out of that election. >> once again, i know you're a democrat, but you're a hillary clinton supporter, secretary, i want to bring in john king, he's over there. he's looking at those precincts, those counties, he's got questions for you as well, go ahead, john. >> madame secretary, thanks for joining us, 18-13 is the margin right now? >> unofficially, yes it is. >> unofficially, sorry. 18/13. and the only votes are two precincts here in jefferson county? >> yes. so you're looking at precinct 152 and precinct 156. >> and the maximum number of democratic votes there are how many? >> possible democratic votes between, total between the two
precincts, 769. >> is that by registration? how do you know that number? >> yes, it's possible by registration. >> all right. so if you're looking at the vote count we have now, obviously even if senator sanders is behind at the moment by 1813, in that county, secretary clinton has been written winning by a healthy margin. even if he won 769 of those votes, it's obviously not enough. she would still have a lead of more than 1,000 votes if he won them all, and yet, you can't say tonight by law, you can't declare a winner tonight, is that my understanding? >> the results tonight as you see from the secretary of state's office all remain unofficial. i do believe though that base odd whan we're seeing coming in that kentucky will remain in a win column for the clintons. >> win column for the clintons been you just did the simple math there, even if senator sanders got them all, it wouldn't be enough. one quick last question, what are the recount reprevisions. there's no automatic recount, is
that right? >> there is actually a recanvassed process that folks can request. they have tuesday, by tuesday of next week to request that in writing on the secretary of state and what that process is, it's manually recheque the machine to make sure that the totals and uploaded to our systems are correct. >> secretary, so basically when i hear you saying, you daent declare an official winner, are you ready to declare that hillary clinton is the unofficial winner in kentucky? >> that is what it looks like right now. we have 99% of our precincts reporting based on the unofficial vote totals that we are seeing. hillary clinton will be the unofficial nominee on behalf of the democratic party here in the common wealth of kentucky. >> secretary of state of kentucky joining us. thanks very much. for that. john, so her analysis basically
coincides with what you're seeing actually in jefferson county there with those precincts. >> actually, what we've seen all night in jefferson county would suggest the final two precincts come in. a maximum total of 769 votes by registration. what it would suggest to is that secretary clinton's lead would grow. she's been winning by a healthy margin. the reason we can be is even if you gave the current lead for secretary clinton is 1,813 votes. even if you gave all 769, even if all of these them went to senator sanders. clinton would still lead. we don't expect that to happen based on jefferson county, but if the current lead is 1813 and the maximum is 769, he would still trail by more than 1,000 votes. and remember that 1,044 numbers as i clear this just to take us
back into the jefferson continue. the reason that's unlikely is she's been winning county wide by a 17 point margin consistently throughout the night. it's unlikely, even if he did, even if he gets them all, her lead would still bead 1,044 votes. that's about as close as it gets. they roughly, evenly split the delegates. what it means for secretary clinton and what they'll be happy for, we'll see how the recanvassing goes, but secretary clinton is hoping to end with kentucky, clinton blue which will give her again an even split of the delegates. senator sanders needed to win 67% of the remaining delegates to catch her in pledged delegates, and he's not getting 67% out of kentucky tonight. he's going to get a little shy of 50% tonight. >> win is a win, and i'm sure the hillary clinton campaign if in fact it holds up and she is the winner, she'll be breathing a sigh of relief as far as kentucky is concerned. and we're standing by for
oregon. oregon getting ready to close there. dana and david, you heard the secretary of state, she's a democrat, she's a hillary clinton supporter, campaigned with hillary clinton, but she says for all practical purposes, she is the unofficial winner. she is the unofficial winner. hillary clinton according to allison grimes, she fought back it looks, if you can believe that, it's a significant development for hillary clinton. >> no question. i'm suspecting that there's going to be a lot of criticism coming from bernie sanders supporters, given the fact that she is the secretary of state, but she also is an overactive clinton supporter and she and her family have been for i guess now generations. having said that, this is her job. and she's making it very clear that she believes it's effectively over. but a win is a win, you're right, wolf, but it's going to continue to fuel the bernie sanders energy that he's going
to get a fair number of delegates. not the number he needs, but still a fair number. >> and if he does have a sizable victory in oregon and they are splitting these evenly, he will net more delegates out of this evening because of how close it is in kentucky, but that was kind of astonishing, normally, you know, we make projections and election nights, and we don't usually get the election official to come out and see you then and declare a winner, and she gave the caveat, which is true by the way, every election we cover, these are unofficial results that the associated press tabulates before the secretary of state in each of these states actually certifies it. >> which is why you say that. >> not an actual winner. >> she doesn't expect a change. >> you heard allison in grimes, make a major projection, unofficial, but that's what she said, she's the secretary of state of kentucky. big announcement coming in from the donald trump campaign. wie going to have that for you, a whole lot more when we come back. ♪
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all right. you heard the news right here, the secretary of state of kentucky, she declared the unofficial winner in kentucky. hillary clinton, she says hillary clinton has beaten bernie sanders for the democratic presidential nomination in the state of kentucky. allison, she's the democratic secretary of state, she's also a hillary clinton supporter, but she says hillary clinton based on almost all of the votes now counted, she will be the unofficial winner right now. big development, hillary clinton wins according to to the secretary of state of kentucky, in that state. stopping the momentum, at least a little bit for bernie sanders. he had been on a roll, but a win is a win as they say. and she wins even if it's very, very narrow, which it will be, it still is a win according to
to the secretary of state of kentucky. let's go over to david chalon and dana bash. david, the delegate division in kentucky is going to be relatively even, but it's still momentum stopping a bit for bernie sanders. even as he waits for oregon to close at the top of the hour. >> this is the first tuesday in the month of may that hillary clinton has put a w on the score board, and she really wanted to do that. she didn't want to do a string of loss here on each success ifz tuesday night before getting to the june 7th finale here. you are right about the delegates. take a look at how the delegates break down here. tonight, these are delegates allocated based on tonight's result website right now we can allocate 25 to hillary clinton and 25 to bernie sanders out of kentucky. now let's take a look at delegates to date. 2,268 to 1,490, that's superdelegates and pledged delegates together. let's brek that out for everyone and take a look at just among pledged delegates, she's got
just shy of a 300 pledge delegate lead, 1,747 and she's crushing him among the super delegates, unbound, 521 to 41. look at that if you remember, total on hillary clinton's side there, 2,268, remember, the magic number is 2,383. one of the things that the clinton campaign is looking for tonight after the oregon results are in and she will win delegates there too, does she bring herself within 100 delegates? it looks like she might to that magic number of crossing the threshold? >> and then there's that and the there's the whole argument you hear from the sanders campaign about super delegates. which tonight makes those even more irrelevant. right? because the pledged delegates number is very much in her favor. the other thing i would add is that started off the night several hours talking about the fact that the clinton campaign learned lessons from michigan
and more importantly from indiana. places where she did not win. they spent time here, in kentucky, they spent money, they put up advertising. and it paid off. >> it did indeed. >> which is important. >> and a win is a win as we like to say. and she clearly according to to the secretary of state of kentucky, hillary clinton is the unofficial winner tonight in kentucky. i want to the go back to john king, you've got closer look at the delegate count himself. what are you seeing, john? >> entering tonight, bernie sanders needed 67% of the remaining pledged delegates, there are just shy of 900 pledged delegates left entering to be the. bernie sanders needed 67% to catch hillary clinton just in pledged delegates. we'll get to super delegates in just a minute. here's what we expect to happen in kentucky tonight. our cnn estimate so far, i'm going to be slightly more aggressive and say when i'm done, it'll look like this let's say they essentially split them. she gets one more undered this
scenario of the 60 delegates. well it's just simple math at home. senator sanders needed 76% coming in. that's less than 60. the hill gets steeper. we have every expectation senator sanders will win out in oregon tonight. he's done very well out in the west, pacific northwest under this scenario, we're giving it to him 60/140. if he gets 60/60, if something like that happens, he ends up here, and this is the challenge for senator sanders. absolutely without a doubt, he has the money to stay in the race. absolutely without a doubt, he said he'd stay in the race, but after tonight, nine contests left on the democratic side. if senator sanders won them all, if he won them all, he wouldn't get there, and so inside the sanders campaign. the kentucky results tonight means his hill gets steeper going forward and we'll see what oregon does to that map going on. >> we certainly will.
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less than 20 minutes until polls close in oregon. you just saw it live in kentucky, the secretary of state allison grimes told cnn the unofficial winner in kentucky, narrowly is hillary clinton you heard her make that announcement, the unofficial winner. let's look at the actual votes in kentucky right now. 99% of the votes in, and look at how close it is between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. 46.3% for bernie sanders, more than 420,000 votes counted. she is ahead by 1,813 votes. but that's enough for the secretary of state of kentucky to say that she is the winner. the unofficial winner in the state of kentucky.
an important win, very important win for hillary clinton, a lot of her supporters, a lot of her staff feared she could lose in kentucky as she lost last week in west virginia to bernie sanders. but she is at least right now, according to secretary of state, the unofficial winner in kentucky. i want to take a look at what's campaign right now.ald trump - jim acosta is covering that for us. there's a dramatic announce that time just came in a few moments ago, jim, update our viewers. >> reporter: that's right. that's right, wolf, the trump campaign is doing everything possible to stay in the conversation on what is normally a quiet night for the trump campaign, even though it's not so quiet for hillary clinton and bernie sanders. earlier this evening, announcing that personal financial disclosure form had been filed, now the trump campaign is announcing along with the rnc, that it has basically come together and agreed on these joint fundraising agreements that'll allow donald trump to raise money not for for himself, but other candidates across the
county. now donald trump did put out a statement along with his announcements saying, by working together with the rnc to raise support for republicans everywhere, we're going to defeat hillary clinton, keep republican majorities in congress, and in the states and make america great again. wolf, the reason why it's interesting, because there are concerns inside the republican party about this down ballot affect that donald trump may have. now, of course, if you're in a safe red state, safe red district as a republican lawmaker, up for reelection. you feel good about donald trump coming into your district. coming into your state, but there are some in danger purple state senators, pat tumy, republican senator in pennsylvania who may not be willing to embrace and welcome this news with open arms. but wolf, this is just another example and perhaps the biggest, biggest example so far since the end of the primaries essentially for donald trump that this is donald trump's republican party now. that is one big message coming from this announcement tonight
from the rnc and the trump campaign. >> joint announcement, reince priebus, thanks very much. anderson, back to you. >> we are waiting to hear from senator sanders in california. thousands of people gathered to hear the senator whose flying in from puerto rico, i believe it was. we expect that probably by the top of the hour. we expect to hear from senator sanders, we'll bring you his comments. it's interesting though, why wouldn't candidate -- why wouldn't hillary clinton try to speak tonight to -- i mean there's an audience watching. people clearly interested in politic, why wouldn't she make a speech tonight? donald trump in megyn kelly's broadcast. she's been tweeting about that broadcast, why not have hillary clinton? >> i think jeff spoke to it earlier, i think that this was their way of saying, these are sort of besides the point events because hillary clinton already
has virtually clenched this nomination. not knowing how they were going to turn out. i don't think she wanted to assign more importance to him. >> well, they feel they've got the nomination. and that these are just -- if she loses one and wins one tonight, whatever, these are bumps along the road. and that she will get to philly and she will be the nominee. and you know -- >> interesting to me though, i mean, again, she's going to be running as soon as she's the nominee, she's going to run against donald trump, the day, two weeks ago, i think it was on of a wednesday. the day after indiana. she, i spoke to her for 10 or 13 minutes. donald trump didn't know it was the only interview that day. donald trump did lake six or seven interviews that day. >> i think he called into my control room this week and she's in the news every single day. he's getting interviews and you do wonder if hillary clinton is going to are to take some cues from him and start to get out there more. all sorts of instances in her
campaign. they weren't going to do much press and they started to say make nice with the press. i don't think we've seen it yet with consistent engagement with the press, and she's going to have to do that. >> hillary clinton just put out a tweet saying that she won in kentucky, i believe i was just told. >> i think it's interesting that donald trump made the announcement -- i don't remember in any priest cycle that it necessitated an announcement that the candidate has decided that he will fundraise with the party, i think there's a twofold purpose. one, it brings around the paul ryans and gives them cover because now he's on their team, raising money for their campaigns, but more importantly, it gives donald trump cover from what you were talking about earlier, from having backed away from the self-finance, he's raising money for the entire one. >> why at 10:45 on a tuesday night when there was all kinds of other news going on?
and i think the answer is that it does pose the problem that was being discussed before. here's a guy who at every event and we saw the video of self-funding who's not a self-funder anymore. and it does create a little distance that he's going to -- >> he did say this the other day that i'll read you the quote, putting up money that won't be completely self-funding. he's going to work with the party. the self-funding thing in the primary, and look, if you want to be party nomination. and then you were the particular head is the phrase goes of the party. >> i assure you, if he wins the election, he's not going to be living with the new trump building there. the old postoffice, he's going to live in the white house. >> to speak in california.
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just nine minutes from now, primary voting ends in the state of oregon. we're standing by for a huge release of results from battling that's been going on in oregon for weeks. the focus of the democratic presidential race still unfolding. we'll watch that closely. bernie sanders is hoping to score a new win over hillary clinton in oregon and after his narrow loss today in kentucky, oregon is the kind of liberal mostly white state where bernie sanders has done well. 61 democratic delegates are on the line in oregon. they're split proportionately. a win wouldn't substantially narrow his gap with hillary clinton in the overall delegate race. there's also a republican primary in oregon as you'd expect donald trump counting on adding oregon to his win column tonight. he has no other opposition. let's bring in cnn's jeff
zellany. he's in california right now where bernie sanders is getting ready to speak before a huge crowd over there. you have new information, update our viewers. >> reporter: i do, senator sanders has been watching this unfold, the results in kentucky. enam told that his campaign has no intention of contesting these results of requesting a recount. which they probably could under a kentucky law because this is so narrow. i am told that senator sanders in his speech tonight is likely to acknowledge that he narrowly lost the state of kentucky and he will look forward to oregon. that's the state of course they believe they can win. but again, from the sanders campaign, they are having no plans of requesting a recount or requesting these results and all they say, so far in the numbers, they do not believe that anything they see is unusual, it was a hard fought battle, and they split the delegates. now we do see just a brief comment from the clinton campaign a second ago, she said this, she said "we just won kentucky, thanks everyone to who turned out.
we're always stronger united." that is going to be the only response from the clinton campaign, of course hillary clinton is not speaking tonight. they're trying not to dwell too much on these primaries here, but a keyword there, we're always stronger united. that is a message to those bernie sanders supporters to come on board with her and get on to this fall campaign here against donald trump. but wolf, bernie sanders will be coming out to speak here in just a sort, few short minutes. and of course he is going to say he's continuing through california, the primary here on june 7th. >> yeah, what is so impressive is the huge crowd that he attracts, especially all the young people who want to go out and listen to him. we'll have live coverage of that coming up. i want to go over to dana and david right now. there's a lot of friction going on, dana right now within the democratic party. forget about the republicans for the time being. >> there is a lot of friction, but this is one particular contest, one particular night where that friction is going to be set aside because jeff just
reported that the sanders campaign is not going to be asking for the kentucky secretary of state to recanvas or for a recount. it's over. kentucky is over. hillary clinton won. >> that's right. we had the secretary of state declare it, hillary clinton accept victory, and now sanders conceiving the fact that there's no recount. yes, put the w in the clinton column. i am not sure that that victory alone is going to all the sudden help bring the party together. i can tell you just observing on twitter as we were reporting the delegate totals and saying that clinton is getting close to that 2383. the sanders folks immediately, reporters said you can't count super delegates, you can sense that friction is very present just discussing the very notion of the delegate math which again, is very much in her favor. it's nearly insurmountable and those super delegates, this is our reporting. we've contacted them. we've spoken to them.
and they have told us of their allegiance to secretary clinton. the way the rules work, those votes count towards the nomination. >> bernie sanders people say they can change their minds. >> they can. they're right about that. if there was some big intervening event, but as dana was saying before, kentucky, held just -- bernie sanders just got robbed of one of his best talking points to be able to convince super delegates to start coming his way. >> there's no question. and never mind super delegates, she's still doing quite well comparatively. among the pledged delegates. >> the bigger lead thanl barack obama ever had over her. >> no question. >> 300 delegates. >> no question, which is why looking forward to the end of day, june 7th, pacific time, when everything is over. assuming that she does go over the top. she does get the magic number. tpz going to be up to bernie sanders as the leader of the movement that he helped kind of
harness and fuel. it's going to be up to him to say to all of them, okay, now it's time to get behind hillary clinton. just as she did with barack obama eight years ago. >> protecting your fellow district of columbia residents. in california a week later is washington, d.c. >> i'm just saying -- i like d.c. resident, although, i'm an independent. i will tell you that that's true. but, you think that you're going to go over the top before that if all of the numbers add to where we think it's going to be. >> that helping to see what bernie sanders -- >> i love my home city of d.c., i don't think it's going to matter. >> district of columbia, the week before in california. june 7th, let's go over to john king. he's at the magic wall. >> i want to reiterate what you're hearing, i can tell you talking to democrats in d.c. today, yes, they're establishment democrats. yes, sanders supporters may not like them or agree with the characterizations from the
establishment. what happened in nevada has reinforce the belief among democratic establishment to not go with bernie sanders. but let's just do the math at the moment and play this out. here's where we are right now. we've signed most of the 60 delegates to the state of kentucky or even split so far. they're still to assign. and here's the problem for sanders, it's difficult math. this was coming into tonight. coming into tonight and 60 delegates in kentucky, but senator sanders needed 67% of the remaining pledged delegates just pledged delegates talking right now tonight to beat her by one if he got 67%. well obviously he's getting a little less than 50% in the state of kentucky tonight. we'll see thousand does in oregon tonight. it just reinforces it because of the state of kentucky. very close race, competitive for senator sanders, it makes his math harder because he did not get 67% out of the state of kentucky. and so you just think if he can't get 67% of kentucky.
can he get 67% or more now? closer to 70% out of new jersey? 67% out of a state with a heavy latino population? like new mexico? that is the math going forward, this makes this so hard. so as we look, first the next challenge tonight is oregon where let's say, 74 delegates in play there. this scenario here gives it to senator sanders at a 6040 rate. he needs to do better than that. so we'll see if he does. he'd get a 13 gain after losing a few in kentucky that would do about here's how the clinton campaign expects this to end. they expect roughly a split from here on out. they expect to win new jersey, now the clinton campaigns think they're california. let's switch it over. if bernie sanders wins california by ten points, 5545, it's still not enough. let's say they can surprise secretary clinton in the state of new jersey.
now there is no question if she lost these two states, no question at all if she lost those states, a lot of democrats would say whew, is secretary clinton weak, where did sanders get the momentum? even if that happened, unlikely 5545, and sanders supporters don't like this. david was just talking about it. but at the moment, we check with these people all the time, quite possible hillary clinton ends up at the end of this path shy of the pledged delegates she needs to win the nomination. shy of the pledged delegates she needs, but at the moment, as we speak tonight, 521 super delegates who have publicly committed, only 41% of senator sanders, both at the convention. those are the rules. you don't count them now, if they stay in that camp, wolf, over the top by a wide margin. which is starting to win by 70% or more going forward. >> john, we're standing by to hear from senator sanders. he has a big rally in
california. we're going to hear precisely what he has to say out of all of this. we'll have live coverage of senator sanders getting ready in california. he's being introduced over there right now. a big, big crowd in california. june 7th, the primary there. right now, the polls have closed in oregon, let's go get a key race alert. right now it's too early to make a projection in oregon, but remember, this is a state where all the ballots are mail-in ballots. so they will be releasing a lot of those ballots very, very soon. we should be getting big numbers very, very soon. we'll see what's happening in the state of oregon. bernie sanders clearly wants a win in oregon. he needs this win. especially since hillary clinton has won in kentucky. the secretary of state declared him the winner, she has accepted the win, bernie sanders for all practical purposes has conceded defeat in kentucky. anderson. >> wolf, it's the top of the hour, we're waiting to hear from bernie sanders, we're going to bring you those comments as soon as the sat