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>> support rz cheering their man on tonight. >> we are in to the last ballot is passed. >> as the bruising battle for the democratic nomination rages on, edging closer to that magic number. bernie sanders, speaking to supporters. >> making sure that california can control the outrageously high cost of prescription drugs. i congratulate those who put the item on the ballot.
let's pass it. together, we will end the fact that we are the only major country without health care for all. we pay far more per capita, we will end that, passing a medicare for all health care system. now, the insurance companies may not like it. the drug companies may not like it, the american people will like it. that is what we have to do. a very important historical lesson. that lesson is, that no real
change has ever occurred in our country, from the top on down. it has always been from the bottom up. think back 100, 125 years, when workers in this country were forced to work seven days a week, 14 hours a day, no rights on the job. think about the children, 10, 11 years of age, losing their fingers in factories. what the working people of this country said. sorry, we are human beings, we are not beasts of burden. we will form trade unions and negotiate contracts. >> as bernie sanders continues
to speak, i will get straight with jeff, with the campaign. good evening to you, out there. you know, supporters after tonight's contest. what did he say to his supporters, besides what he is aing now? >> senator sand rz made it clear, that this race is not over. he is going forward, until every last vote is counted. he said there it was a steep hill to climb. he put the final month in the context of what he has accomplished. over taking hillary clinton. the idea that he could take on the establishment. he said, in order to defeat donald trump, we have to defeat hillary clinton. he was more fefiant. there is no sign he is preparing an exit strategy. the primary, on june 7th, 475
delegates, this is what he said about california. is this, in a sense, the sgng of the final push to win california. when we -- by the way, i should tl you, there are a lot of people out there, many of of the pundits and colpicions, they say, bern eye sand erds should drop out. the people of california should not have the right to determine who the next president will be. well, let me be as clear as i can be. i agree with you.
we are in to the last ballot is cast. >> so, don, you can hear his defiance. the math remains more than an uphill climb, it remains impossible to reach that threshold of delegates, hillary clinton is a fewer than 100 away, she won it kentucky, he won in oregon. they are going togoorward, he didn't say the math here is still not on his sides. >> we will discuss that with the panel, whether he is giving supporters false hope or not. trump tower, here in new york city. quieter there. it is new york city, it is quieter. big news from the trump campaign, he looks forward to the general e, lection. what do you know, jim? >> that's right. a quieter night for donald
trump. the returns did come in from oregon, he did win the primary there. donald trump was trying to stay in the conversation tonight. earlier, he released his personal financial disclosure form, showing he made $560 million, and a net worth of $10 billion. that is not the only numbers we are talking about tonight. in the last hour or so, the trump campaign announced that they reached an agreement to roll out the joint fundraising agreements, basically, what it means that donald trump will not only be able to raise money for himself, but north republican candidates down ballot. what is donald trump's effect going to be down ballot? there will be candidates in
dangered in purple states, returns like pat toomey, he may want be welcoming this with open arms, a lot of those in red states who are concerned, and looking offer their shoulder, in terms of who they are facing, against a democrat. they will welcome this, he can get a lot of people out to the rallies to it campaign trail. it is a quiet night for donald trump. he can stay vuch in the headlines. >> tonight's win gets donald trump closer to the nomination, where does he stand right now? >> our latest estimate, donald trump at 1173, he is very, very close to that magic number of 1237 delegates, he will hit that number, obviously, on june 7th, if not before then. when the republicans go in to
the primaries and so on. he can do what he and his top advisories were doing, talking to describing the bernie sanders and clinton slugfest. one advisor was making a point saying, look at the drama that unfolded in nevada over the weekend. and you thought our convention this summer, he used words that rhymed with spit show. salty language, it is after midnight, it goes to show you how they feel the shoe is on the other foot now.
sitting back, enjoying what is happening on the democratic side of the equation here. when you look at the rnc, this is very much donald trump's republican party now. >> i have no idea what he could be saying. >> level you digest that. >> the trump tweet, i look so forward to debating crooked hillary clinton. primaries are rigged, so time to get it on. he said he is looking forward to it, jim, they are ready. >> he is ready. to get into this with hillary clinton. he basically has moved beyond the primary battle. he is ready to engage in the general e, lection campaign. advisors were not surprised by the super pack ads, released by the hillary clinton super pack.
in the words of one advisor, i spoke to earlier, we know what donald trump's weaknesses are. where they will come from. the public understands donald trump's past when it comes to women. in the words of one advisor, the hillary clinton campaign better watch out in terms of what they are getting into with these attacks. trump went after bill clinton, hillary clinton. tell bounce back and forth until we hit the general e, lection. >> we are all admiring your reporter trenchcoat. >> it was raining earlier. >> what does it mean going forward? >> the math is against bernie
sanders, although he can claim a split tonight. if you have a split against a front runner, that is a good night. only nine contests left. coming into tonight, senator sanders needed 67% of the delegates, to catch her among delegates. even if he gets a win in oregon tonight, up to 66% of the vote counted, that is a six-point win. impressive win in any other context, we would say it is an impre impressive senator sanders needs more. it doesn't change this. clinton just shy of a 300 lead in pledge delegates, senator
sanders will cut into that by 10 or 12 in oregon. that is not enough, in the sense that you have nine contests left. he will need 70 or higher of the remaining delegates, no question he can win the state of california. do you think he will win with 70 or 75% of the vote. even at 55-45, in a situation like that play it out further for you. bring the states up. give california, to sflart sanders. say he surprises the clinton campaign, and takes new jersey. in this situation, wins puerto rico, even if sanders -- if you are a democratic super delegate,
a mayor, union leader, and senator sanders is saying the system is rigged, how likely is it that you think any of these people, 521 for helicopter clinto -- hillary clinton. a win tonight for senator sanders e, pressing on until the last votes are counted. district of columbia, critical to him. what he has done is remarkable. it is hard to see him winning the remaining with 78% or more of the vote. we will keep counting. secretary clinton is splitting the delegates, making the hill more speak. >> what is the official
delegate? >> we can go through what a fall race would look like. one thing that supporters will say, take the super selligates aw away. short of a majority of pledge delegate, that number includes the they get votes at the convention. when it comes to that, she is the nominee of the democratic party. if she holds on to these, gets across the finish line. my best expectation is to start here. we could start here this, is a cnn map, yellow states, this is
one way to look at it, saying they will neal to get to 270. republicans at 191. the best way to start is with the last campaign. this is what president obama won in the re-e, lection campaign. if you are donald trump, you say, you must change pennsylvania. no one -- trump replacing the so-called regan democrats. wider states, states where his message might be able to sl. if he could win those three, and nothing changed. this would be a steep climb. that would make the difference.
where would he look? iowa. in new hampshire. if nothing else changes, donald trump is the next president. follow where they buy ads, watch in the states, where they know he will make a push and a few others, maybe colorado. virginia. watch how it plays out. until donald trump can make inroads from pennsylvania, across, then the democrats have advantage. >> now, pennsylvania has gone
republican since the late 1980s. democrats will say, give me a break, that is not going to happen. >> a couple of people on the panel gives you the side eye. >> if you don't get pennsylvania, find somewhere else. the map is tough for republicans. trying to build. we will see what he does here. he knows it, everybody knows it. to get there, it starts here. >> do you have any questions for him? no. nobody.
delijit myself her. we are at a point now, and senator sanders had an opportunity to say, we are larger than this. we are not them. he refused to do that he does stand for something. i don't want to say petty. the messaging is important, what he stands for is important. however, his tone and attacks, the fact of the matter that there is no way he can win this race. he spoke for two points, one as if he wasn't a democrat. and two, if demthe kras in 2008 and 2012 didn't win the presidency of the united states by small numbers, we got 330 in one race. yes, i am confused. i don't understand his goal. i saw jeff weaver, earlier, refused to denounce the attacks
against, refused to say violence is wrong -- >> face the facts there, say primary going on. this primary will continue through california and through december. deal with it. dude. deal with it. bernie sanders is not going to get out. this is good for the democratic party. those people came out because they believe in bernie sanders, and the democratic party. and bernie sanders talked about raising the minimum wage, saving social security, medicare, health care for all, free community college for every kid in america. don't tell me he is not talking like a democrat. >> finish, dude. >> i am saying this is going to go on. clinton better relax. >> no. >> bernie had a great win tonight in oregon. sets him up well for california.
and close in kentucky. what he should be thinking about that, hillary clinton who won in 2008. bill clinton won it in 1996, and she barely wins kentucky. i there are weaknesses in the clinton compain you should be worried about. rather than bernie sanders. dude. respectfully, my dude in love, respectfully, what i will tell you, by every simple metric that you can put forth, super delegates change, if they were thrown out. if they voted with the state. hillary clinton would be the nominee. the fact of the matter is, that is very true. you heard john king say the opposite. without the super delegates, hillary clinton will not have enough to win the nomination. >> let me be clear. if the super delegates voted
with their state. hillary clinton would still be the nominee. if they were not involved, my point to you is simply this. we have larger fish to fry. we are facing the probability of donald trump being the next president of the united states. we have had this discussion many times, either bernie sanders will be ralph nader or he is not. >> that is a low blow. the. >> basically, saying that there is no path to the nomination for bernie sanders at this point. at this point, if bernie sanders does not want donald trump to be president, he has to start thinking about something else, not leading -- that is what i am reading here. >> the very first conversation they had with bernie sanders.
>> give me a break here. i have to say, the first conversation i had with bernie sanders running for president, i told him, you can't be a ralph nader, bernie sanders promised the world, he will support hillary if she is the nominee. >> what about mccarthy. >> he doesn't come out -- >> you say that, that is one thing to say it, it is another thing to actually do it. every time he speaks, from this point forward, what he is doing right now, what he did tonight, was dele jit myself hillary clinton. >> he didn't. >> yes, he did. they are yelling, bernie or bust. when hillary was running against barack obama, she didn't go out
and say he was a wonderful guy. >> this is the passion that will be good for the democratic party heading into november. fighting right now it not fighting over whether or not hillary clinton will be a good nominee. they are fighting over getting to the end point. for the democratic party that support a bad thing. it looks like it is a blood bath, believe me, there is blood coming our way. donald trump is looking more presidential, more esteemed than the democrats are. >> we are talking about the dissension from the gop, it looks like they are around donald trump. and the debt crams are doing the opposite. i will let you address it on the other side of the break.
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the dissemcrats are fighting. >> it looks like it. it looks like they are starting to. >> the bottom line, for the democrats, the fight has been simmering, we ignored t because there is so much focus on donald trump. >> part of a larger trend. we have ignored it both sides with violence erupt at rallies. donald trump was essentially saying, they are -- the system is rigged. >> i thought i was listening to donald trump, listening to bernie sanders. >> they have more in common than we think. >> trump, i don't mind you rallying against the establishment. i appreciate the tweaking of the system. serious problems in the democratic process, blame senator couplo, or those in new york, for the people
disenfranchised. an dolled trump won. >> it is more that he doesn't have an exit plan? bernie sanders was like in the senator. before he decided to run for senate, he was just there. jumped in front of this parade. became the leader of it. he may not know where to go next. go back to the senate, be quiet. nobody knows where he is going to go. >> you have to understand bernie sanders. listen to his speeches, he doesn't talk about a campaign, he talks about a political revolution, i am trying to tell you where he is going with it. he wants the nomination, goal number one. he sees a slim chance. he wants to shape the party platform and have his issues in that party platform. he wants to shake up the
democratic party. >> the message for the leadership tonight. listen to this. >> the let me say a word to the leadership of the democratic party. that is, that is that democratic party is going to have to make a very, very profound and important decision. it can do the right thing and open its doors and welcome into the party, people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change. that is the democratic party i want to see. bringing in people who are
willing to take on wall street. to take on corporate greed, and to take on a fossil fuel industry which is destroying this planet. i say to the leadership of the democratic party, open the doors, let the people n. >> so, matt, he is throwing down the gauntlet. this is what our party should be focused on. >> on a variety of issue rs he was talking about. wall street, for example. the question s how do you accomplish that? if he goes too far, he could turn off hillary, and the democratic party, and not get to push the policy. there is a balance, in terms of how do you get your agenda on
the platform. >> right now, standing up for his supporters, a lot of what is going on here can be traced back to nevada. the media has been talking for hours and hours on end, about the violence of bernie sanders' supporters. nobody is addressing the grievances of what happened here. they changed the rules in the middle of the calk custo dele jit myself what bernie sanders had won, nobody is talking about it on air. nobody -- >> we are going to talk about it after the break. is donald trump at trump tower going yeah! we will discuss after this. what headache? advil makes pain a distant memory. nothing works faster stronger or longer what pain? advil.
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kentucky, and bernie sanders, winning in oregon. "a woman in charge, the life of hillary rodham clinton." he has been standing by, is if hurting hillary clinton right now, that she can't devote her full attention to the general election with bernie sanders still in the race? >> of course. i want to try a cynical explanation of perhaps what is going on. i can't be in bernie sanders' head, i think he does see a needle in a hay stack way to victory. that hillary clinton comes in cot democratic convention as damaged goods. a lot of the distrust factor, what happened with the server, supposed lies she has told, some that may exist or does not.
and fbi investigation, and the slightest chance that something that could result from t perhaps fall-out that would be damaging to her. if she does not have enough of pledge delegates, which she probably won't, comes in there damaged, and trump is running around, crooked hillary is sticking to some extent. perhaps sanders thinks that it super delegates might think twice. this is partly what is going on now. and we should take a look at that dynamic. it is very unlikely that he can succeed with that narrow threading of the needle. it could happen. the other thing s he has not attacked hillary clinton on the server. those kinds of questions, so that when he gets up to speak at that convention, if he is not the nominee, he can be a savior of sorts to her. try to deliver his movement to
her. i think the exit plan they heard doesn't exist, i think there is an exit plan, there is wiggle room that he sees, cynically perhaps. i heard his wife say, where satellite fbi investigation. i think it figures on this. >> you said to me, and you know, on more than one occasion, that it is pastime to talk about the real hillary clinton. it is amazing, given how long she has been in the public eye, you think that there is something that is missing. what do you think is missing? >> look, the viewers of capable news do not read all of the biographies out there, of donald trump, hillary clinton, or bernie sanders, we have an obligation to do investigative biog graphies, i am not talking about dirt. the fact that we have not done
them in the primaries is a grievous abdication of our responsibility. because, we need much more than just simply the great analysis we have had after the analysis, and the panels, we do not look at the whole arc of the candidate's lives, how much do we know about hillary clinton, the fact that the concept of public service has been the backbone of her life. many say, she undermined that by her own conduct. how much do we really about bernie sanders. we have three candidates, two of whom won't release tax returns,
and one won't release documents. we have had an abdication. tlch is a lot not known to our viewers. >> bernie sanders did release a year. >> not 2015. >> talking about hillary clinton, or -- talk about hillary clinton. he has called her the big evaluate enabler. what is behind that charge? >> i think that the enabler is less than what he trump savaged the women who accused bill clinton of agreggous sexual
contact. bringing forth the women who will be ugly, no question. back in arkansas. the law firm she was at investigated some of the women named in a lawsuit brought against bill clinton. it has never been shown that there was a slush fund or with the exception of den jennifer flowers, the real attention is women trumps need to win. one of the ways he says hillary clinton who has gone after the women her husband has been involved with.
we are headed for one ugly campaign, both ways. >> thank you very much. we appreciate it. open it up to the panel now. hillary clinton, forever tied to president clinton, successes and failures, she has been her own woman, very successful. did is a double aged sword. >> she said that bill clinton would take over the economy. when you himpicate -- i am putting him in charge of economic recovery in my administration. he is a fair game because he will play a role in your -- >> i think there is a
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>> breaking news, tonight or this morning, depending where you are. hillary clinton claims a narrow victory in kentucky. donald trumpentlies closer to his number of 1237. back with me, my panel. bill says he thinks it will backfire, if he continues with his hillary clinton is an enabler thing. >> donald trump making news, hillary clinton seems others can defend her. she has to defend herself, soon. >> remember donald trump's taco
bell? jeb bush blasted it. quote, eating watermelon and saying, i love african americans, what are is your reaction? >> jeb is out here, getting truths, the fact of the matter is, donald trump is so disconnected from the plight of people of color, i have to laugh at donald trump, it is so sad. jeb bush hit it on the head. we will get red kool-aid, and water melon -- >> i am so hungry right now. >> fill in every stereotype as if he is a third grader coloring between the lines, that petrifies republicans. >> jeb bush went on to say, not
all historics are mexicans, not all hispanics eat tacos, showing your sensitivity by eating that dish is the most insensitive thing you can do. >> today is may 17, we are hearing from jeb bush. if you want to know where he is not the republican nominee, i make my point. >> they are liberated on twitter now. >> i want to make a point, we live in a high offense society. americans are sick of, walking around being offended by everything. i don't think most are not offended, i think they care about issues. not a taco bowl. >> the audacity that you can
make that statement, someone going through sexism, racism or big og tree, many people feel that donald trump exudes, for you to say -- >> the idea -- >> he said, i love hispanics. somehow you twist it. >> it was more than that it was more than that how about this, the exact, use jeb bush for example, he was correct. if for a second, he had a watermelon and said, blacks love me, i would be offended. >> he said he loved a group. i don't think people were offended by this. >> death threats over democratic delegates.
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