tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN May 22, 2016 6:00am-7:01am PDT
bitter battle. >> i will be the nominee for my party. that is already done >> hillary clinton says bernie sanders needs to face facts as the democratic primary gets ugly. >> i say to the leadership of the democratic party, open the doors. let the people in. >> is sanders willing to "bern" down the party to get what he wants? senator bernie sanders will be here in minutes. plus donald trump tries to calm conservatives. >> i will not let you down. remember that. i will not let you down. >> reporter: but there's a new anti-trump ticket. can it work? we'll ask one of the candidates. and "inside job?"
new images of what remains of egyptair flight 304. what brought down the plane? the latest intel from officials. plus the best political minds with insights from the campaign trail. hello, i'm jake tapper in washington, where the state of our union is on edge. the simmering tension between hillary clinton and bernie sanders seems to be boiling over with clinton signaling its' time for sanders to go and sanders vowing to stay in through the convention. "saturday night live" spoofed the rivalry last night. >> everybody's gotta go. that means you, too, sir. >> no freakin' way! i'm not going anywhere! i can stay here as long as i want! >> senator sanders, i'm sorry but the night is over.
>> no, no, it's not over! it's not over 'til i say it's over! >> oh, hello, bernie. i didn't see you sitting behind me, so far behind me you can never catch up. >> clinton is of course anxious to turn her full attention to donald trump and a new poll out this morning shows them neck and neck. the new numbers are a statistical dead heat with trump at 46%, clinton at 44%, that's an 11-point surge for donald trump since march. and joining us now from las cruces, new mexico, is senator bernie sanders. senator thanks so much for joining us, appreciate it. >> my pleasure. let's start with the obvious question, there are a lot of democratic officials and office holders concerned that the tone and tenor of this democratic race have gotten so negative that it could cost hillary clinton, who is likely going to be the nominee, the general election by convincing
independents and progressives who support you that she is corrupt, and that the only reason you're not going to get the nomination is because the fix is in. what do you tell those people when they call you and express this concern? >> nothing that i have -- jake, that's not that i have ever said. you know, the last i heard is that we are a democratic country, and that elections are about vigorous debates over the issues. secretary clinton and i disagree. i think we should -- on many issues. i think we should raise the minimum wang to 15 bucks an hour, i think we should join the rest of the industrialized world and have a medicare for all health care program. i think we have got to have a tax on carbon if we're going to effectively deal with the crisis of climate change. she and i disafreed on the war in iraq. >> right. >> those are legitimate issues to degait. what we are trying to do is bring more people into the political process including many, many independents, young people and working class people and i think we have been doing
that just fine and what the democratic leadership has got to understand not all of my supporters go to these fancy fund-raising dinners. they're working people who want real change and i hope the democratic leadership understands they have to open up the process and bring those people in >> take a look at what you said about pledged versus super delegates when you were campaigning in santa fe, new mexico, on friday. >> now, we have received up to now 46% of the pledged delegates. we have received all of 7% of the superdelegates. >> you were making a point about the superdelegates, but what you left out of that data is that, while it's true, you have roughly 46% of the pledged delegates, secretary clinton has roughly 54% of them, and what you've achieved is remarkable and there's no one that disputes
that, yet at this hour it seems unlikely you'll achieve the majority of the pledged delegates. can you see how that might leave the impression that -- >> two points, no. sume most of the people who come to my rallies can do arithmetic. if i have 46%, she has 54%. the point that i was making is there's something absurd i get 46% of the delegates that come from real contests, real elections, and 7% of the superdelegates. and the point that i made a few minutes after that is that some 400 of hillary clinton superdelegates came on board her campaign before anybody else announced. >> absolutely true. >> it was an anointment. that is bad for the process. it seems superdelegates want to see how the process unfolds, who is the stronger candidate, as you well know, and disagree with me now if you want but virtually every poll taken in the last two
months has me doing better against trump than hillary clinton. >> okay, one thing about that poll, a lot of experts i've talked to political experts including people who like you a lot say that first of all, you can't base an argument about what should happen in november based on polls in may, but beyond that, it's just empirically you have not withstood the kind of decade's long beating that hillary clinton has, not to mention the year-long difficult coverage that donald trump has. do you dispute that? you really think the kind of coverage has been as piercing and critical of you as it has been on the other two? >> hey, check out some of the tv ads that were run against me in 2006 when i ran for the united states senate, very ugly, very vicious, and a lot of crap has been out there, dishonest stuff about me. i believe the reason and i say this with all due respect to secretary clinton, i'm not saying she cannot beat donald
trump. i think she can. it's a good chance she can. i am the stronger candidate because we appeal to independents, people who are not in love with either the democratic or the republican party, often for very good reasons. >> right. >> the issues that we are talking about, income and wealth inequult, the influence of wall street, the fact that we're the only major country not to guarantee health care to all or paid family and medical leave, those are resonating among people who support me in a way that secretary clinton is not getting support. >> senator, so you're out on the trail every day talking about your goal which remains to secure a majority of the pledged delegates. should we assume that means you believe the candidate who has the majority of pledged delegates by the end of this process should be the nominee? >> this is what i believe. i believe if we -- and look, i am good at arithmetic, and i understand that it is a very, very uphill fight to go from 46% where we are today to 50% in the
knipe remaining contests. i got that. but the other point, and we're going to try. california obviously is the big race that remains. we think we have a chance to do very well in california, and in new jersey, et cetera, but what i also believe, it's incumbent upon some of these superdelegates, people who came on board clinton's campaign before anyone else was in the race to take an objective look at which candidate is stronger, and it's not just polls, jake. democrats and progressives win when there is a large voter turnout. republicans win when people are demoralized and don't come out to vote. any objective assessment of our campaign versus clinton's campaign i think will conclude we have the energy, we have the excitement, we have the young people, we have the working people, we can drive a large voter turnout so we not only win the white house, but we retain, regain control of the senate, dwell in the house and governors chairs up and down the line.
>> with all due respect, sir, she has more votes than you and she has more pledged delegates than you. >> i know. >> the question is a simple yerp. should the candidate with the most pledged delegates at the end of the process, june 7th, after new jersey and california, the last contests, should the person with the most pledged den gats be the democratic nominee? >> well, i think if that was the only criteria, then you get rid of all of the super delegates which may not be a bad idea but you do have super delegates. you got 700 super delegates and i am not a great fan of superdelegates but their job is to take an objective look at reality and i think the reality is we are the stronger candidate. we will see what happens. >> so you actually think it would be okay for the pledged delegates, the majority of democratic voters to pick one candidate and the superdelegates to go with a different candidate? you're not suggesting that. >> it's very funny that you ask me that question, when you had
400 pledged delegates come on board clinton's campaign before anyone else was in the race. that's called an anointment process. that's called the establishment talking. that's called the big money interests, this is who we want to be president. we are where we are right now. >> right. >> we are where we are right now, jake, and where we are is we are fighting to win the pledged delegates so before i can answer your question, let's see what's going to happen, but if you do have -- if your argument is let's get rid of the superdelegates that may not be a bad idea but they are there. >> so let's talk about that. let's pursue that, because no matter what, whether you get the nomination or you don't you'll have a seat at the table when it comes to what is in the democratic party platform. you're going to have influence on what happens. >> right. >> no matter what, nominee or not. should the party do away with superdelegates? >> i think she should very much, i think we need a serious discussion about the role of superdelegates. clearly the current situation is
undemocratic, it is ill-advised, and it needs to change. to what degree? i would like to see a change? we are talking about that right now but the status quo clearly is not acceptable to me and that has got to be changed. i think what has got to happen at the platform is the democratic platform, whether i'm the nominee or not, has got to stand up for the middle class and working class of this country, has got to be prepared to take on wall street and the greed of corporate america, the outrageous level of income and wealth and equality in this country and make it clear that every middle class family in america we are on the side of the middle class, the young people, the workers of this country, not wall street, not the greed of corporate america. >> last question, sir. your campaign and many of your supporters have argued that congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, the chair of the democratic national committee, has not been neutral in her position as chair, your campaign manager jeff weaver in
particular has been very critical. she is being challenged right now in a primary by tim kanova, a law professor who opposes the pacific trade deal you oppose, he supports you, already raised $1 million. you've been calling for a revolution in florida, are you with wasserman schultz or are you with her opponent? >> well clearly i favor her opponent. his views are much closer to mine than is wasserman schultz's and let me also say this, in all due respect to the current chairperson, if elected president, she would not be reappointed to be chair of the dnc. >> senator bernie sanders, it's always a pleasure to talk to you. good luck out there on the campaign trail. >> thank you. coming up, a new third party alternative to trump, and to clinton. can that candidate change the race? that story next.
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talking about a rigged system, he wins every week and he keeps losing. i think bernie should run as an independent, okay? let him run. i do. i would love him to run as an independent, then it would be the three of us on stage. i'd love that. >> bernie sanders has said he will not run as an independent if he doesn't get the democratic presidential nomination, but donald trump might be careful what he wishes for in the new "the washington post"/abc news poll. 44% of the public wants a third party option, and one is headed their way. former republican new mexico governor gary johnson will run on the libertarian party ballot, and this week johnson announced he hopes his running mate will be another former republican governor, bill weld of massachusetts. should they persevere at the libertarian party convention coming up next weekend in
orlando, florida. their ticket will be the only third party alternative on the ballot in all 50 states in november. and joining me now is former massachusetts governor william weld. governor thanks so much for joining us. >> jake, thanks for having me. >> so let me start with the variation of the famous roger mudd question, "why do you want to be vice president?" >> i have known gary johnson of new mexico for a long time. i love the guy. we serve together as governors. i'm excited about the idea of running on a ticket with him. i've been a libertarian for a long time. my speech to the republican consflengs houston in 1992 was i want the government out of your pocketbook and out of your bedroom, and gary and i represent a mix of policy positions that's not represented by either major party, and we would like to get into the national dialogue. >> as you know, there are a lot of americans that don't like either donald trump or hillary
clinton, but there really is a vocal minority of republicans led by people like senator ben sands, bill crystal of "the week lie standard" and others looking for a third party candidate. have you. ichd to them the so-called never trump individuals that you and gary johnson can be a place for them to land? >> i wouldn't pitch other pols until we get a critical mass if it's obvious we have something to sell. our purpose is to put in front of the country the fact that you can have an administration that's fiscally conservative and socially inclusive and see what the country thinks about that. i think that may be 40% plus of the country >> have you talked to mitt romney or the koch brothers or any of the people that might help you get your message out? >> no, really not yet. first of all we have to get nominated next weekend in orlando at the libertarian party convention. second i want to make sure we
got the building blocks of a national campaign all set up before we go around asking others for help. i think a little bit of fund-raising will probably be the first order of business, just to make sure we can staff this out, but i wouldn't ask another politician to endorse our ticket until i thought i had a winning proposition for them. >> even if you didn't win, a third party candidate can have a huge impact on the outcome of a presidential race, some people for instance believe that ralph nader played a role in helping hurt al gore and elect george w. bush. as a former republican governor, is that a concern? would you be comfortable with the prospect of possibly being blamed for tipping the election to the democrats? >> no, it's not a concern at all. i think we have our positions. we're going to press them. i'd like to ideally nudge the democrats toward the economic center, get them away from excessive spending. i'd like to nudge the republicans to get away from
their anti-abortion stance, their quesiness with gays and lesbians being able to live openly married and peaceably, the unbelievable proposals made in the immigration area to round up and deport 11 million people, this is really not prime time, and we don't mind saying so. >> let's talk about immigration. you've differed with donald trump sharply on this issue of mass dmortation, his plan to deport the estimated 11 million or 12 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s. you told the "new york times" about that plan "i can hear the glass crunching on kristallnacht in the ghettos of warsaw and vienna when i hear that, honest. "kristallnacht or crystal night in english from the holocaust, the shards of broken glass that littered the streets after jewish owned stores, businesses and synagogues had their win
toes smasheded by angry anti-semitic mobs. is that a little strong, you think, to talk about the holocaust? >> no, no, i don't think so. i served five years on the u.s. holocaust commission by appointment of president george w. bush and by the way, israel never had a stronger friend in the white house, and i'm -- that was my request, and i'm absolutely certain that as we said in those years, if we don't remember, we absolutely will forget. and you got to forget a lot of things to think it's a good idea to round up and depart 1 million people living peaceably, most of them working in america, in the middle of the night, no, not the united states. china maybe, not the united states. >> let's talk about guns, back in 1993 you proposed some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, including a statewide ban on some forms of semiautomatic rifles, a waiting period to buy handguns,
prohibition against gun ownership for anyone under 21. to your positions on strict gun control fit in with a libertarian party platform that opposes "all laws at any level of government restricting, menlgsteres or monitoring firearms?" >> i'm a lifelong homeowner and finance owner and i don't think the proposals were out of the main stream at all. i distinguish between you know, hunting guns and guns that really don't seem to have any hunting purpose or potential purpose so that was the distinction i was drawing there, but that's an area where i think gary and i can find a common ground. i'm not worried about that issue. >> governor william weld, that u so much, goed luck to you and governor johnson. we look forward to seeing you out there on the campaign trail. >> thanks so much, jake. coming up, a stunning new report of a message scrawled on the egyptairplane that ultimately ended up crashing. was it a warning? stay with us.
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welcome back to cnn's "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. he officials still cannot say what caused egyptair flight 04 to drop out of the sky. report in the "new york times" reports two years before the crash cairo airport workers had tagged the plane with graffiti including this message in arabic "we will bring this plane down." is that a clue? or just a coincidence? here with the latest on what american officials have learned about the crash is congressman peter king of the house intelligence committee. congressman king thank so much for joining us this morning. >> you're welcome. >> the "new york times" reporting egyptair officials say it was once spray painted by arabic workers "we will bring this plane down." what can you tell us about this
report? is it connected? >> it is two years ago so perhaps had a direct connection but what it does show, jake, is the extent of the islamist threat at the airport from insiders and anger toward general cece, so a combination of anti-cece plus the islamic movement, the isis movement and the fact that the insiders at the airport all over the world but especially in countries like egypt, that is to me a greater threat to us than passengers bringing bombs onto a plane, it's people behind the scenes, those who have access to the plane, the airport workers, the cleaners, the scrubbers, anyone who gets, who again does not face the same scrutiny as passengers do. they have access and that is a real threat here. >> i would think that would be right. there were reports of arabic graffiti on other planes, four ez jet aircraft in france. i know at charles de gaulle airport and france there was a move a few months ago to get rid
of a bunch of airport workers who had suspected ties to islamic extremists. is this still a threat even after all those firings? >> oh it is. you figure they have about 85,000, 90,000 employees at the airport, this was 70 or 80 removed. you have to assume there were others they were not able to detect. this was a late development by the french to realize the threat they face. i say yes you have to be concerned more were there and also in our own country. we've done a lot to correct it. probably have 1 million people who have access to planes at our airports and there was an inspector general's report the department of homeland security last year, which said there were a large number had not been properly vetted. now there's been a lot done and it's much better with the tsa and homeland security but this is an ongoing situation we have to monitor, because of the access these people would have to the planes, so really it's almost impossible to have too much security.
that to me, that behind the scenes insider threat is one we have to be most concerned about, we're doing a better job in the u.s., france was a little late getting started and as far as other countries around the world, they come nowhere near the standards we have here in the u.s. >> what is the latest that you can tell us in terms of what officials think might have happened to this plane? the last i heard the president of egypt general ece said all options are still possible. what's your understanding of the latest? >> again this is unofficial but i would say right now the indicators are that if you tip the scales it's toward terrorism but the longer is goes without responsibility being claimed it also could be a malfunction on the plane itself, an electrical malfunction. i think as more and more of the debris is collected and testing is done we should find out sooner rather than later what this was. i think on the investigations by the way, something like this, we always have to start off with the premise that terrorism is
the most likely option and work our way back from that, not to say for certain it's terrorism but that's the most likely and work our way back. >> the official spokesman of isis released an audio message yesterday but in that message there was no claim of responsibility for the attack. what do you make of that? >> it could be several things, one that could have been recorded before they were certain who carried this out. isis does not have the same command and control that al qaeda had. this could have been a local affiliate of isis that did it, could have been another islamist group and before again an acknowledgment is made they want to make sure exactly who did it, how it was done but again, any number of hypotheses out there. it could have been lone wolves for all we know. >> i want to ask you about another subject, there's legislation on capitol hill that would let the families of those who were killed or wounded on 9/11 sue the kingdom of saudi arabia for any possible role in
the terrorist attack on 9/11. that bill passed the senate unanimously on tuesday, despite president obama's veto threat, now goes to the house you're a chief sponsor of the legislation. white house officials have said that the president opposes the bill pause he's concerned it could enforce a dangerous precedent in terms of foreign individuals suing the united states. if that concern is unfounded as you and others maintain why do you think the president opposes this legislation? >> jake, you know, this was thoroughly debated and there was an initial concern. this bill is so finely drawn and tailored, senator cornyn, the senator did an outstanding and job, my staff worked with his and chairman goodlott of the house judiciary committee. this is finely drawn, those can only be brought against a government if there's evidence that government was responsible in any way for terrorist attack on another nation. this is not going to open up to all lawsuits. we're talking about a specific type of threat, a specific type of crime and so to me, this is
the president of the united states overreacting to the saudis. in fairness to the president there are some ongoing operations we're working with the saudis on. he may feel eight going to hurt us diplomatically but we have to do both. listen, i know these families, terry strata, her husband tommy was killed that day, father is in my district, great guy. these families should know what happened. if the government of saudi arabia is responsible that should come out. this is not going to compromise any intelligence at all and the saudis have to realize wlil right now they are cooperating properly for their own good, they realize they have to because of the threat but that can't wipe away if they have any responsibility at all for what happened back on 9/11 november assume responsibility. if there's no responsibility they have nothing to worry about. >> congressman king, republican from new york, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, jake. coming up, hillary clinton's changing tune when it comes to attacking donald trump. what is her strategy for trying
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do you think donald trump is qualified to be president? >> well the voter also have to determine that. i'm going to lay out my qualifications. >> do you think that donald trump is qualified to be president? >> no, i do not. >> what a difference three weeks makes. this was hillary clinton changing her tune on donald trump's qualifications to be president, in just three weeks, less than a month. what's behind this change of tone? let's talk about this and much more with our panel, bill press who is the national syndicated radio host and bernie sanders supporter, congressman marcia blackburn, republican of tennessee, s.e. cupp cnn plator, and congressman bacerra, firmly in the hillary clinton chair. congressman, what gives? why did cuomo get the scoop? i asked the exact same -- it was
literally word for word the exact same question. >> maybe you should shave a little different next time. >> maybe. why the change in strategy, why one week it's up to the voters and next week no, he's not qualified. >> donald trump says enough in three weeks to help you clarify in your mind where he stands and wait another three weeks and he'll make you change your mind again because he changes his mind. it's become very clear this is not a right guy to make the right decisions as commander in chief, not someone we can trust on jax taxes. he's not willing to reveal his own tax returns. we're not sure if he's for or against guns in classrooms. the guy can cause you to say one day he's one thing, the problem he's another. the problem is you need to know where your president stands >> s.e., i wonder if this reveals a little bit of the fact that the clinton campaign, like every single other person donald trump has run against doesn't really know how to run against him. >> yes, because there's so much material. it would be very difficult to figure out how to go.
do you go on character, do you go on inexperience? do you go on tone and discipline? there's a lot there. i personally think it would be a mistake to go on character, she's a terrible vessel to attack him on his character. she should stick to experience and that's what i'm hearing mostly from her now pointing out what he doesn't know, what he's not ready for, what he's not prepared for. i think she's on stronger footing there. >> congressman i know you are in the trump camp, correct? >> yes, i am, and i think that hillary has a problem talking about experience, because what she has is exposure through her life, not necessarily experience. she has been there as the secondary to bill indeed the top issue in the campaign, jobs and the economy, what did she say this week? i want to outsource that to bill clinton. >> she was the senator for eight years and secretary of state for four. >> she was but what were her
accomplishments within those opportunities she was given and you know, when people say bill clinton economy, do you want another tech bubble, do you want to have nafta again, do you want wage stagnation? i mean to have bill clinton, you would have to have ronald reagan come tee that up in order for what clinton saw as the success in the first term of his presidency. >> bill? >> i would take 23 million new jobs which is what we got in the longest period of sustained -- >> because what have reagan did. >> because bill clinton was president of the united states at the time, not ronald reagan, but back to your original question, i think the difference is that donald trump is now the presumptive nominee. you talk to hillary, he wasn't quite and the other difference is that democrats understand and hillary understands not to take this guy for granted, not to make the same mistake that the republicans made in the primary, and you know, just consider him an easy take, an easy fall, they're going to go i think from full bore from the very beginning against donald trump
on the fact that he is not qualified to be, whether it's temperament or whatever to be president. >> it seems the republican party is unifying around trump. new poll showing an 11-point swing toward trump in a head-to-head matchup. donald trump got an endorsement, despite whatever gun activists had about him an endorsement from the nra, take a listen. >> to get the endorsement, believe me, is a fantastic honor. i will not let you down. remember that. i will not let you down. >> s.e.? you're a gun enthusiast. >> yes. nra member. >> nra member and also not a fan of mr. trump. what do you make of this? >> this is huge. i talked to folks at the nra after he spoke and they said that he had that room eating out of the palm of his hand. i've spoken to that room. it is a big group of people. they loved him. lot of these people, here's why it's significant, a lot of these people were single-issue voters.
for the gun control crowd they wish their constituents were single issue voters. we have those. if these are people who many of them for the first time going to go and vote just to keep the second amendment protected from hillary clinton, and they have donald trump, he has their support, that's significant for him. this was a big moment in his campaign. >> congressman, hillary clinton doing something that a democratic presidential candidate hasn't done in a long time, making further restrictions on gun ownership a big part of her campaign, usually democratic presidential candidates run away from that because they fear losing states like pennsylvania or west virginia or ohio. you think it's a good strategy? >> she's certainly going to stand up to the gun lobby and going to make a clear distinction. she's for making sure that everyone goes through a background check, before you get a weapon, and she's going to say you can have a weapon but go through the gun background check. there's a big difference between saying go through a background check, whoever you are, and
saying you can actually carry guns into a classroom, which is what donald trump is saying. there's a distinction i think most responsible gun owner also say i think everyone should go through a gun check. i'm not sure everyone is going to say we should have guns in our classrooms >> she wants to make it legal to sue gun manufacturers which would obliterate an entire industry, at least that's what bernie sanders says and he's right. >> the only way you win a lawsuit is if you've been irresponsible so if a gun manufacturer is not willing to go through the test of whether you've been irresponsible, then shame on america. >> you just brought up the issue of guns in schools because hillary clinton and donald trump this weekend have been debating back and forth on that and a few hours donald trump called in to quogs fox & friends" and tried to clear up the issue where he stands on the issue of guns in schools. take a listen. >> i don't want to have guns in classrooms although in some cases teachers should have guns in delays room frankly.
>> okay congressman, help me with this. i don't want to have guns in classrooms although in some instances teachers should have guns in classrooms frankly. >> let me tell you where this is going. many time teachers and principals say they would like for the police officer or some z designee in the school to have a firearm, someone who has a carry permit who can respond if there is an unfortunate occurrence. so i hear that from teachers and donald trump has been good about listening to what people want to see, and i think that's what he's responding to is that do you have educators who would like the ability to be able to protect their school and their children in case they're called upon to do that. >> bill, bernie sanders has been painting himself this election season this primary season as somebody who can bring gun rights activists and gun control activistst together, given the fact that he has worked with both as a senator from a state with a big tradition of hunting,
and very few gun laws. >> he also has a d-minus rating from the nra so despite being somewhat reasonable on that issue -- by the way i disagree with him on the issue as a sanders supporter, that hasn't won him much support on the nra but i think this is going to be one of the key issues in this 2016 race because i haven't seen any candidate take the gun issue as far as hillary clinton, i totally support what she's sayings that been willing to do. on the other hand i haven't seen anybody take the nra pition as far as donald trump is. guns in the classrooms, congresswoman who is the teacher going to do with is t? that's irresponsible. >> oh bill for goodness sakes. >> donald trump is expert at saying one thing to one audience and another thing to another aud yen, totally in conflict. >> to be fair this was one thing and another thing to the same audience within the same paragraph. >> got to a new level. >> quickly, i think barack obama -- >> to be sure their children are safe in a school setting.
>> so guns in the classroom? >> national security is one of the top issues. there's things said about guns in every classroom, bill. >> we said in some cases. >> talking about allowing someone that's -- >> i want to move on, donald trump has gotten very personal in some of his attacks about hillary clinton and specifically bill clinton, chris cuomo asked hillary clinton about it the other day, take a listen. >> do you ever feel compelled to defend your honor, the honor of your husband? >> no. >> with the statements that he's making that go g to the core of the relationship? >> no, not at all. i know that that's exactly what he is fishing for, and you know, i'm not going to be responding. >> what do you think, congressman, about when donald trump takes on bill clinton, and scandals in his past? what do you make of it as a trump supporter? >> hillary has scandals in her past, scandals in her present,
and people worry about scandals in her future, and it reminds people to be wary. >> i'm not talking about her scandals, talking about his scandals her husband. >> scandals in the past and present. look at what happened with the clinton foundation, and the money that is there. >> all right, great panel. thank you so much. coming up, dirty politics canadian style, elbows thrown a poll geez demanded. have they taken one too many cues from the u.s. zmong it's the subject of this week' "state of the cartoonian" coming up next.
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