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onion and tomato. heavily seasoned. it's spacey. got some good zinc in there. >> feeling better? >> i am. >> good.gc in there. >> feeling better? >> i am. >> good. in there. >> feeling better? >> i am. >> good. >> explore the food and culture of georgia on parts unknown tonight at 9:00 eastern only here on cnn. you are live in the cnn newsroom, i'm jim sciutto in washington and we begin tonight with breaking news. in iraq, we learned that the iraqi military has launched an operation to retake the city of fallujah from isaiah, an effort to liberate the city held by more than two years thousand. b now. but we know it won't be easy. a battle by u.s. troops this 2004 was one of the bloodiest of the iraq regard. 82 lost their live, 600 more
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wounded. for iraq, this is a critical battle if the country hopes to crush isis. meantime in rafafghanistan, the taliban admits mullah mansour was killed. secretary of state john kerry says it's time for afghans to come together for their nation's future. >> this action sends a clear message to the world that we will continue to stand with our afghan partners as they work to build a more stable united secure and prosperous afghanistan. >> and in egypt, the hunt for ab answers to the mystery of egyptair 804, now use submarine it is to find the recorders while officials plead for
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patience. >> i would encourage everybody, think about the human beings number one, two, wait for the process to finish. and don't talk about mr. so-and-so said to mr. so-and-so in a closed room that there is something wrong in there. this is really unprofessional and not going to lead to anything that is good for anybody. >> to dieiest all gest all of t congressman ed royce joining me now. he's chair man of the house foreign affairs committee, he is speaking at today's fifth annual jerusalem post conference. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> so we have this news just coming into cnn military has launched the operation to retake fallujah. how important in your view is is this battle to take away if a luge gentleman which is so close to the capital of baghdad? >> well, it's very important.a luge gentleman which is so close
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to the capital of baghdad? >> well, it's very important.lue gentleman which is so close to the capital of baghdad? >> well, it's very important. we were in iraq and erbil and i can make the observation that we've had a few false starts so are far. i would say it's very important that the government this baghdad and we've relayed this view to that ghoechovernment include th sunni tribes that are in that area rather than shia militia in this effort. because afterwards you will want to hold tafallujah with the peoe that were displeased. they need to come back and take po possession. second, i think it's important that we have good air support. we may need to adjust our rules of engagement in order to help the iraqi forces on the ground in this effort. >> and that demand from the u.s. to get a more inclusive not just government, but military
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operations, is so key and i'll he remind our viewers isis, it's a sunni group, some sunni tribes have supported isis because they feel maligned marginalized by the shia dominated government. have you seen evidence that the shia dominated government is bringing that sunni involvement in some. >> i pressed the government very hard. i met with sun any tni hribal l when i was in iraq recently and their request is they want to take theakerer to back, but the don't want to fall into the hands of militia. and i think baghdad should listen to them because that is the best way forward in pushing isis out. >> so the question is will they as always. we had news yesterday and thousand con fi confirmation today from bad
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today that mullah mansour was killed. so another success feful drone strike. how significant of a blow do you think this is to the taliban leadership? >> i think this is an important development because mullah mansour killed thousands and thousands of people and is leading an insurrection that frankly we have had a problem in the u.s. not using our air power to target taliban up until now. we will target or the administration will allow the targeting of isis, but in terms of getting approval to go in and hit units of the taliban that this has been difficult to get the administration to do, we have a very lackluster air campaign up there and franl lfr the afghans need that level of support. so the fact that we took out their leader, this is important, but it's only the first step.
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if we're really going to give the air power, the support necessary to make sure that the afghans can hold their ground against the taliban. >> pakistani officials say countries leaders were surprised by the strike. another one saying that it was a violation, foreign minister in fact saying it was a vie lafgol of the country's sovereignty. do you believe that pakistan gave the okay for the strike or was given advanced warning or dwounk tdo you think the u.s. carried it out without their permission? >> i think some elements are con glicked. they have worked with the taliban in the past, but at the same time, the taliban and their allies, their other radical a y alli allies, are also trying to overthrow the civilian government inside pakistan itself. and so this has complicated the situation for pakistan since they have lost so many civilians to attacks by taliban and other
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affiliated radical organizations. so i think end of the day the fact that we've taken out the taliban leader meet allow us to see an evolution this this where we get more security in the region. >> is pakistan a reliable ally to the u.s. in the war on terror including against the taliban? >> i think the civilian government is. i think that there is an element in the isi, an element in their security services that in the past have shown a willingness to work with terrorist organizations, especially inside afghanistan. and my hope is that now that has come back to bite, that there is a realization that that support has to end. >> on the egyptair crash, donald trump who you have not personally supported, you have said that you would support the
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eventual republican nominee, he was quick to say this was terrorism. and he used that to further justify proposed muslim travel here. was donald trump too quick to say it was terrorism? >> well, if looks as though it likely is terrorism. we have already seen isis carry out one attack of egyptian flight going from egypt, russian airliner to moscow. successfully. this is the third incident. and in this particular case, we know that isis has been trying to develop a new type of weapon that cannot be detected to take on an airplane. part of the problem is that isis is already operational inside the sinai, inside egypt carrying out the attacks and also on the border of libya where i'm just back also from libya -- or from tunisia and north africa. what they're doing there is they are using that as a staging ground. they're training 6500 terrorists
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and their hey're training them o make bigger and undetectleabe t bombs. so the fact that the united states has not been successful in carrying out an operation to stop isis and have allowed all these recruits to come in and now open up a second training operation inside of libya has led to a much more dangerous situation. i think this speaks to the issue of why frankly we need a republican president, we need a republican congress if we're going to stop isis. we can't have a continuation of another four years of the obama/clinton policies here. >> chairman, please stay with us p we have a lot more cop tentex come up. coming up next, a fierce fight after 9/11. >> you want people behind bars our pay for the crime they committed and you want to stop
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u.s. senate approved a bill to let victims and families of the september 11th attacks to sue saudi arabia for its alleged involvement in those attacks. that bill is just what many families have been waeting for for nearly 15 years thousand. but many obstacles still remain. jake tapper explains. >> reporter: it may have been nearly 15 years ago, but for a families that lost loved ones on september 11th, 2001, the need for answers feels just as urgent today. >> this is not like different
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than any other murder case. you want the people that murdered your loved one behind bars or you want them to pay for the crime that they committed. and you want to stop them from ever doing it again. >> terry's husband, tom, was works on the 104th floor of the north tower when the planes hit. the couple had welcomed their third child just four days before. now she's among knows fighting for the right to sue saudi arabia over the death of her loved one. >> yes, there is a compensation part to the lawsuit. but for the families, mostly what we're trying to accomplish is holding them accountable. >> allegations of the government of or officials in saudi arabia played some role in the 9/11 attacks have been raised since the towers fell. allegations the saudis have vehemently denied. but the u.s. senate this week unanimously passed legislation that would allow 9/11 families to at that titake the kingdom td
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try to get answered. even if passed by the house, president obama has threatened to veto the legislation. >> this legislation doesn't say that any person, charity or governmental entity is libel. it only says they can't hide from the truth. >> reporter: why would the u.s. president oppose the wishes? the white house says the precedent set would be disastro disastrous. >> he continues to harbor serious concerns that this legislation would make the united states vulnerable in other court systems around the world. >> reporter: but advocates say that's not true, that the bill's language protects the u.s. from retaliatory suits. >> the administration does a very dangerous thing. and that is to suggest that our activities in fighting terrorism
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are the equivalent of the activities of other countries in financing it. >> reporter: back in 2004, the 9/11 commission says it found no evidence the saudi government or high level saudi officials funded the 9/11 attacks. though in comments largely overlooked from a recent podcast interview with david axelrod, ben rhodes addressed some of the seed money for al qaeda may have come from entities within saudi arabia. >> there may be individuals, you know, who are operating who kind of get to do their object thing. >> within the government? >> within the government or family members. >> reporter: the saudis insist that the 9/11 commission report exonerated them. >> there is no room for discussing court matters now because from the saudi point of view, this issue has been settled already. >> reporter: moreover the audi government has threatened to sell hundreds of billions in
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american assets if the bill becomes law. >> the bill approved now heads to the house. joining me once again to talk about this is the house foreign affairs committee chairman ed royce of california. chairman royce, we know the president opposes this bill. where do you stand? >> well, we're reviewing this closely. i think that the 9/11 report itself should be declassified. but i'm talking to my colleagues about will this. i think that what is interesting to me and i had the former responsibility as chairman of the terrorism sub committee to travel into north africa, west africa, central asia, and there i saw a phenomenon and i'll just describe it to you quickly, jim, but it was where prominent families like the bin laden family, business families, inside saudi arabia were funding these deal bindi schools.
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and these particular types of confrontation at ones were teaching jihad in nigeria. in the same area where now we have boko haram, jihad in north africa and in central asia. and the outgrowth of that is that you have people then carrying out attacks or joining al qaeda as a cokop consequencee funds of these promise business family. >> that's a consistent criticism and a finding in the 9/11 report. they have said that they sent a lot of money to these schools and continue to that fuel extremism. but on that point, shoot families of 9/11 victims have the right to sue saudi a rain a i can't?families of 9/11 victims have the right to sue saudi a rain a i can't? >> we will discuss this with my colleagues on the judiciary
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committee. we haven't looked at it yet. you about i think the first step obviously is to declassify the report itself.i think the first obviously is to declassify the report itself. and then we'll look at this in the house. >> the report we're talking about, the 28 pages from what was at the time a congressional report on potential saudi ties to the attacks, some officials who might have known or assumed t assumed the hijackers. but based on what you know, is there disturbing evidence that there was some support for the 9/11 hijackers? >> that will be answered with the publication of the report. with the declassification of the report. that needs to be declassified so we can go over that and talk about that. and that should be declassifieded now. >> house for affairs committee ed royce, thanks for letting us cover so many topics with you this sunday afternoon.
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>> thank you very much. coming up next here on cnn, we will continue to follow the presidential race, the pundits might say the democratic nomination fight is over, but don't tell that to bernie sanders. he is nowhere they're ready to surrender and his current target is the biggest prize left on the primary calendar, california. could it be a golden opportunity to close the gap with hillary clinton? we're live from california next. think fixing your windshield is a big hassle? not with safelite. this family needed their windshield replaced but they're daughters heart was set on going to the zoo. so guess what, i met them at the zoo. service that fits your schedule. that's another safelite advantage. ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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senator bernie sanders says rival hillary clinton is out of touch with the democratic party. he rallied supporters in california with just over two weeks before the state primary there. he made a fresh vow to stay in the race though he lags behind clinton in pledged delegates. selma is outside the event. what does sanders have to say about his chances in the general election match-up against trump? >> reporter: yeah, this is really striking. something that we have recently saw bernie sanders start to do is really try to look forward, move ahead and really start to make this strong general election argument arguing to the crowd like he did here today that he thinks he has a better
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chance at beating donald trump than hillary clinton would in a general election. and this is a pattern that he has been telling his crowd in increasing urgency, almost as if he's trying to validate his path forward and really explain why he is still in this race despite fre pressure that he should drop out. here's what he he told the crowd this vista, california. >> i think the objective evidence is very clear, that in virtually every national poll and every state poll, we defeat trump by larger numbers than does secretary clinton. i say to every democrat in this country and those delegates who are going to the convention in philadelphia, if you want the strongest candidate to make sure trump does not become president, we are that campaign.
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>> reporter: so certainly bernie sanders striking a very defiant tone in the last two week of campaigning before the last contest here in california on june 7. the end of this primary contest season. >> when you talk to sanders supporters there, do they still hold out hope that he can pull this off or is it more just kind of for fun now or just showing their loyalty to it? >> reporter: i definitely get the impression that there is a loyalty factor for sure. you hear that from many bernie sanders supporters who have come to many of his campaign events over the duration of this campaign. but i do think that today include that had some of his largest applause lines that he gets from the audience is really talking about the process, talking about his path forward, talking about bringing the fight to philadelphia. that really resonates with his supporters here. so i haven't talked to anyone who feel that's should drop out. i think there is right now a sense that he should keep going forward. and he has not sent any signal
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otherwise. >> no question. thanks very much from california. the political season is anything but predictable. here is one thing we do know. female voters will help decide the next president. >> well, i think the only card they has is the woman's card. she has nothing else going. and frankly, if hillary clinton were a man, i don't think she'd get 5% of the vote. the only thing she's got going is the woman's card and the beautiful thing is women don't like her. >> coming up, a woman explains how donald trump could successfully woo female voters.
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donald trump has a great deal of room to improve his standing with women voters. a cnn poll done in march found that 73%, three out of four of registered female voters view trump unfavorably, just 26% view him favorably. one of my next guests says women
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voters might actually help trump within the presidency. let's bring in david gergen, former adviser to numerous presidents. and also marsha. and marsha, you wrote if trump could stop taking spot shots to women, he has a golden opportunity to make far greater in-roads than i has now. martha, that's a big if at the top of that statement. but why do you think there is so much potential there? >> well, you know, you can look at this election from the perspective of women voters through the lens of their gender. and women's issues. and that gives you one set of issues to think about how they will vote. but if you shift the lens and look at women voters through the lens of the economy, it gives you an entirely different
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perspective of them as voter. the economy is the number one issue for all voters and it's even more important to women. issues that relate to economic equality and access are also important issues to women. and donald trump, while he doesn't lead at the moment in terms of the voters opinion about whether or not he could handle the economy, he certainly has an opening to address women and all voters, but plurarticuly women voters. >> it's a great point because we always tend to pigeon hole whether women or hispanics or blacks as being one issue, but they are no more one issue voters than white men are. david, i want to ask you, because if this were a normal campaign, parish that thought, but in any other campaign, a number of comments donald trump has in about women, whether men
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truation of megyn kelly or perhaps publishing women for an borings, comments which he later dialed back from but still are hanging out there, today can trump get over those issues with the significance portion of women voters? >> it's a steep hill to climb. as a republican over the last several elections, you start out behind among women. there is a gender gap going back 30, 40 years now. but he's made it immeasurably worse through his campaign comments, his general sexist attitude, all the other questions that have been addressed. but to go to martha piece oig's point, i think she has a good point that women are moved not only by gender, and through -- they not only look at reality through a gender lens, but they also have other interests. and what we've seen is that a lot of women in the republican ranks who started out with high
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it is approval of donald trump has come his way as he's won the nomination and republicans have started to coalesce behind him. so what we've already seen is that there is a fluidity in this race and he's already drawn more women to him. so, yes, i think the potential is there if he cleaned up his act and really weren't after women on the basis of what kind of economy are we going to create. and women are doing much worse in this economy than men. so they have an even greater interest in someone who will seem to be able to deliver, trump's strengths suggest that he can deliver where others haven't. >> martha, so much of trump's message is actually about the economy, not necessarily tailored to women, but about losing american jobs to china, to mexico, to a sense that the
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american dream no longer exists for most americans or for many americans. i wonder in that message do you see already an appeal to women voters? >> absolutely. i would say yes. and women have been disproportionately affected by the great recession. two-thirds of minimum wage earners for example are women and that's widely acknowledged as a poverty level wage even though you're working. 40% of single mother households live in poverty. and even at the other end ever t of the spectrum, women in elite jobs are continuing to response pay apps that are really significant. so women even -- while the issues may be related to them as women and their gender, what any's realan they're really thinking about is how they're experiencing their lives. and what do you see in the poll
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numbers is that they even more than men fpyou do see in the po numbers is that they even more than men fp consider the economy to be be the most important issue. 89% of all women voters see it as the number one issue. >> david, let me ask you about another issue besides the which i. the real debate the last 24 hours has been on the gun issue. hillary clinton, is this a way the focus -- certainly gun restriction, popular issue with with many democratic voters. but what particular voting blocs is she going after by proving her sort of stricter gun control? >> among other things, it's a way to box in bernie sanders and she still has to fight him off of course. because he has coming from vermont as been more favorable toward guns than she has been. but beyond that, two things about hillary. one is on guns, what she's trying to do is use guns as a
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larger point about donald trump making it off the cuff comments, cont contradicting himself or qualifying himself,'s irresponsibles you wouldn't want to trust him with the office, that's going to be a central theme of her campaign. making this anybody but trump election gives her the best avenue. but i think you have to start off on the proposition of economy. she has put forward the most comprehensive plan of any of the candidates. the numbers add up more than any of the other campaigns. so i think trump can make inroads among women, but i do think that he not only has to e behave himself toward women, but he has to be much more stronger about the economy and what it will mean to have a trump presidency, what it will mean for women in terms of jobs, closing the wage gap, closing
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the pay gap for women executives and the like. >> getting beyond the brand. >> exactly. >> david, martha, thanks very much. coming up live in the cnn newsroom with the crash of egyptair shining a spotlight on security, it pegs the question what really works. coming up in the next hour, richard quest looks at how one airport focuses on risk and ignores older people and children to strike a successful and efficient balance. talking about these daysl thee is how good their coverage is. but only one network is giving you more than just great coverage. t-mobile! only t-mobile's lets you stream video and music - for free! not only that, but we doubled our lte coverage in the last year. that's right! our coverage now stacks up with anybody. including verizon and at&t. so now you can get rid of the other guys and get great coverage from t-mobile. we got you covered. and we won't stop!
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we're following breaking news in the middle east, iraq's prime minister announcing an operation to retake the isis-held city of fallujah has officially begun. these new pictures coming in to cnn now from the iraqi military, they show officials dropping leaflets over the city warning residents there, told to flee. the leaflets are safe cards that civilians are being asked to use to safely evacuate. the country's prime minister went on live tv promising victory and saying that isis militants had no choice but to flee. also new chilling developments about the goomed egyptair jet that fell out of the sky wednesday. "new york times" is reporting that two years ago vandals tagged that very same aircraft with graffiti saying, quote, we will bring that plane down. the message was scrolled on the underside of the jet. and the message was blif ebelie
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be a plit political statement. so what is the safest airport in the world and when does to so differently to keep people safe? richard quest takes us inside. >> reporter: tlv, its airport code, is regarded as one of the safest in the world for good reason. everything about the airport has been designed with with security specifically in mind. the location of the airport this relation to tel aviv itself. the number of security forces on site. and as a passenger when you arrive at the airport, you're questioned as soon as you get in the terminal before you checked in. questions about who you are, where you've been, what you've been doing. what is in your bags. some criticize this as being an element of racial or stereotyping or profiling. but it's a risk based security
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system rather than a would one fits all. the idea is that you don't necessarily need to pay much attention to a 90-year-old granny and 2-year-old child as you may need to do to a single male for example or somebody who might fit a profile more at risk. there are criticisms, but the israelis will tell you that their system has worked. the bags themselves are x-rayed upon arrival in the terminal, x-rayed brf thefore they go on plane. and your hand luggage is again x-rayed. but here is the difference. because of the risk based rather than one size fits all, it seems to run much more efficiently. there is a view that we don't need to worry about you, we're much more interested in you. and because of that, they are able to focus much more intently on those risks that are much greater than the security of the
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aircraft. whether it works or not i suppose you have to say the proof is in the final results. whatever way you look at it, we're just over a million passengers a month, and it's one of the safest in in the world, but also a far cry from one of the really big airport hubs like heathrow, amsterdam or new york. well, a judge orders a small. help town to merge its middle and high schools in the name of desegregation. >> some of us go there, some come over here. so it should make a difference because we see each other every day. >> seg segregation. it lives on live next. and i bety you'll be able to do that senior walk".
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welcome back live in the cnn newsroom. segregation still exists in a small mississippi community. more than 60 years after a landmark supreme court case declared school segregation unconstitutional. in cleveland, mississippi, one high school today is 99% african-american while the other is still seen as historically white, but that may be coming to an end. our nick valencia spent the last few days in this community that was created by a railroad line and is still today divided by it.
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>> this is uncomfortable for me. >> reporter: at home in cleveland, mississippi, a father and son have a conversation that's been 50 years in the making. >> we're doing what we think is right. not just for black folks, but for white folks and for everybody. >> reporter: this week after a five decade-long legal battle a federal judge ordered the cleveland school district to integrate. the reverend edward duval advocated for the move and even testified in court. his son ed, jr., isn't so sure about the impending change. >> well, i think it's the way the parent wants to go instead of the way the child wants to go. >> i don't expect you to agree with me, the stand is best for everybody. >> reporter: mississippi has 11 public schools that are separated by train tracks that used to be right here. to the east, east side high school. it's 99% black. to the west, cleveland high school which historically has been seen for whites though enrollment there is evenly split
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between the races, but still not representative of the population. the department of justice took exception to that and pushed to change it. >> i thought we were doing pretty well. >> attorney jamie jack represents the school district. for the last 50 years, she says, the district has complied with federal orders to integrate, but for a federal judge the process wasn't moving fast enough. >> what the court said is it wasn't intensive enough and it wasn't effective enough and we think that with the constitution and the law of the supreme court says is you don't have to have a racial quota that is required in every school in every district. you have to have made a good faith effort and we think our district as a whole is desegregated. >> since 2013 cleveland school district has allowed open enrollment which gives the freedom of choice white, black or other to go wherever they want. that system of choice proves segregation does not exist. ♪ ♪
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>> reporter: no one we spoke to at east side high's graduation seemed to disagree with that. in fact, most said they like the way things are. >> if i had a choice to go to east or cleveland high. >> some of them go over here, and it shouldn't make a difference because we see each other every day. >> duval wants to see change because it's good for the entire community, he says, because it provides equal opportunity for all. >> we're trying to make our community better, not just for tomorrow or the next few years, but for your child. >> nick valencia, cnn, cleveland, mississippi. thanks to nick for that report. the cleveland, mississippi, school board will meet this week to decide if they appeal the decision. the 2016 class of east side high could be the final class to graduate from the school. coming up live in the cnn newsroom, maria schrife seroa mission to help working moms. >> i don't think that business
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♪ ♪ >> in this week's american
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opportunity, businesses and government are not doing enough to support working mothers. that's the assertion of journalist maria schrifer and her brother mark shriver who are calling for more sick and parental leave. christina alessi, why most working moms are just getting by. >> i don't think that business leaders know that half of american moms live paycheck to paycheck. i think people are stunned. >> how do businesses need to change? because we have been talking about a lot of change. we've been talking about here in l.a., the increase to minimum wage. all of this seems to be changing, but maybe it's not enough? >> i think you see through the report the importance of sick days, of parental leave. >> think the other thing is when you talk about change, very often businesses, government, they're the last people who want to change and change is from the ground up. we're going to force political leaders to be interested in this and in the poll it said that most american mothers feel that american business makes it almost virtually impossible for
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them to parent and also to work and also to caregive. repeatedly they say businesses aren't supportive of them. i didn't know that. i didn't know that that person sitting in the cubby is living paycheck to paycheck. they don't fit the image of someone i have of living paycheck to paycheck so i think the facts are important. >> why are business leaders and politicians so disconnected from these facts, from these realities? >> think people are busy and they're living their own lives and they're trying to meet their quarterly number. they're worried about the p & l and politicians are worried about people voting for them. >> i think people have stuck in their mind of images of 15 years ago and people don't work. they don't realize that they're providing, that they're care giving. they have parents who might have alzheimer's also living in the
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home. they don't realize that somebody who is working full time maybe is making minimum wage and they have to raise two or three kids on that. >> have any business leaders committed to this? have they said we're going to change our work policy? we're going to change our -- >> there are a number of businesses across the country that have looked at the issue of early education and toys r us is strong on it and t.j. max does a lot of work on these issues. who needs to come around? the rest of the country and the political leadership. >> you can see more of our american opportunity series at opportunity. we have a great night of television for you on cnn at 7:00 p.m. eastern, anthony bourdain visits the greek islands and at 8:00 he takes us to big sky country in montana and then at 9:00, an entirely new "parts unknown" he is in the country of georgia, the former soviet country.
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and more americans make the decision to live off the grid. the question is why are they leaving their comforts behind? unplug for an hour and find out why with w. kamau bell and his series yoet u series "united shades of america." i'm jim sciutto. we'll see you next time. [ wind blowing ] ♪ ♪


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