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good morning. i'm pamela brown in for carol costello. thank you for being with me on this monday. pair of polls show hillary clinton has lost a double-digit lead over the likely republican nominee donald trump. washington post/abc survey shows her trailing by a couple of points and nbc wall street journal poll shows her leading by a few points. both reveal a statistical dead heat. meanwhile, trump may be inching closer with a running mate,
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meeting with senator bob corker. here to break it all done for us. let's begin with phil mattingly. phil? >> no shortage of republican officials who predicted a donald trump nomination would lead to an electoral wipeout, and with good reason. hypotheticalical head-to-head matchups that showed trump trailing by double digits. no more. a much tighter race and for a couple of primary reasons if you look deep into the numbers. that is, the republican party is coalesking behind the nominee. one that is an important point and something that hillary clinton, in her own primary race with bernie sanders, hasn't been able to benefit from yet. clinton brushing off the polls, looking forward to her nomination. take a listen. >> poll this is far out mean
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nothing. they certainly mean nothing to me. and i think if people go back and look, they really mean nothing in terms of analyzing what's going to happen in the fall. >> you think this lead for sanders is an illusion a little bit? >> i'll let others speak to that. i just think i'm in a much stronger position, have been. and the voters who have turned out and given me 3 million more votes believe that as well. >> obviously, hillary clinton speaking to bernie sanders, still holding a head ton-head lead with donald trump. republican officials are getting behind him. republicans inside the party having a more favorable view of donald trump. actually, nationwide, the view of donald trump actually getting better. still at historic highs, his negatives. people starting to get behind him. trump saying this is all essentially part of the plan. take a listen. >> i think we're doing really well. we have had some tremendous rallies. people are in love with what we're saying. i think we're going to do very well and even better than that.
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she's ineffective. bernie sanders said she's not qualified to be president. and he meant it. and he said it because, frankly, with her decisions, you look at libya, you look at offshoots of libya, benghazi, et cetera, et cetera. so many different things. we could go on for days. when you look at her decisions. just bad judgment. she suffers from bad judgment. and that's bernie sanders saying it. >> donald trump obviously making clear the attacks aren't going to stop from here on out, through november, using some of bernie sanders' own words, something you can also expect to hear a lot of going forward. another thing to keep an eye on, pam, donald trump hits the campaign trail again in the days ahead. first, another important meeting on foreign policy. this one, with senator bob corker, chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and also for those looking for vice presidential candidates, something to keep an eye on. corker's name has been thrown in there once in a while. corker hasn't endorsed trump yet
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but was a mainstream republican. these two will be meeting today in new york. we're all trying to figure out signs of who donald trump may select as running mate. this piques a lot of interest. donald trump and advisers continuing to maintain they will make this announcement in july at the republican national convention. >> phil mattingly, thank you so much for that. for bernie sanders, vow to fight for every last vote in the democratic process is going beyond his battles with hillary clinton and spilling over to the democratic party at large. sanders taking aim at an establishment he says has rigged the process, including one of the most high-profile democrats in congress. senior washington correspondent joe johns joins me now with more on this. joe, good morning to you. >> good morning, pamela. signs over the weekend of bitterness in this race. one of the top candidates suggesting if he's elected, he would get rid of the leader of his party. and then there's that sanders sound bite, suggesting americans could be choosing between the lesser of two evils in november.
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but, look, some of the latest polls really talk about sky high negatives for both donald trump and hillary clinton. bernie sanders coming out strong over the weekend against the head of the democratic national committee, debbie wasserman-schultz. >> in all due respect to the current chairperson, if elected president, she would not be reappointed to be chair of the dnc. >> sanders going as far as backing her challenger for her florida house seat. >> clearly, i favor her opponent. her views are much closer to mine than is wasserman-schultz's. >> reporter: the head of the dnc responding, insisting she'll stay unbiased, saying in a statement, i remain as i have been from the beginning, neutral in the presidential democratic primary. sanders further challenging the establishment, doubling down on charges that the party is unfairly propping up hillary clinton's campaign before the primary contests are finished.
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>> you had 400 pledged delegates come on board clinton's campaign before anyone else was in the race. that's called an anointment process. that's called the establishment talking. >> reporter: sanders saying he is the one to carry the party to victory in november. >> virtually every national poll and every state poll, we defeat trump by larger numbers than does secretary clinton. >> reporter: pointing out the unfavorable ratings plaguing clinton and trump. >> i don't want to see the american people voting for the lesser of two evils. >> reporter: quickly walking back that description when pressed. >> is that how you would describe hillary clinton against donald trump, the lesser of two evils? >> no, i wouldn't describe it. that he what the american people are saying. >> reporter: clinton less than 100 delegates shy of officially clinching the nomination. >> there's no way i wouldn't be. >> taking a jab at sanders sunday. >> i've been vetted and tested.
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i don't think he has had a single negative ad against him. >> we'll be keeping our eye on the west coast as candidates get ready for the california primary june 7th. bernie sanders is spending most of the week there. hillary clinton heads out west today after a speech in detroit. pamela? >> joe johns, thank you so much for bringing us the latest there. hillary clinton fighting on two fronts and losing precious time and momentum. according to new polls, her double-digit lead from last month has dissolved into a statistical dead heat with donald trump. the washington bureau chief of the daily beast, maria cardona joins us, clinton supporter and democratic strategist. thank you to the three of you. >> thank you, pam. >> so much to talk about in the wake of these polls that recently came out. maria, on that note, trump, as we know, can focus just on hillary clinton at this point while she is spending this time and money beating back the bernie sanders' challenge.
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in your view, how much does that hurt her? how much is that playing into these poll numbers we're seeing here? >> i think it is playing into the poll numbers, which is why we're seeing them really tighten up. you have the republican establishment, as phil was saying, coalescing behind their nominee, as regretful as that might be for many republicans. but they're doing it. that's what the polls are showing versus on the democratic side where you still have an animated contest going on, even though at the very end she will still be the nominee. i think that those polls will change once we come out of the convention in philadelphia. but i think in the long run, this is not hurting her. because anybody who has been participating in presidential elections understands that poll this is far out really mean nothing. let's ask president mitt romney if he thinks any of these polls mean anything when they had him up over obama at this same point in time in 2012. i think what it does say,
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though, is that the clinton campaign does need to be concerned. and i have said this from the very beginning. and they are. they should wake up. and they do wake up every day concerned that this is going to be a very divisive, polarizing, tight fight, because they are running against a nonconventional, nontraditional candidate who has no playbook, knows no playbook and is going to throw everything at her. they're prepared to take him on. >> on that note, jackie, one poll showed that 20% of bernie sanders' supporters say that they would throw their support behind donald trump. how concerning is that prospect for the clinton camp that trump could pull in some of the sort of disillusioned bernie sporters who want a revolution and outside candidate? >> that clearly is the danger. the more you hear bernie sanders criticize hillary clinton. while these polls are far out and maria is absolutely right. they may not mean anything in terms of the hard numbers, they
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do continue to point out vulnerabilities that hillary clinton has had throughout this process. she's not doing well. she's losing independents to donald trump. she's losing white men to donald trump. we keep seeing this in each poll throughout this cycle for hillary clinton. you think that the clinton campaign would want to start honing her message, specifically to independents who might encompass some of the sanders' supporters you're talking about. >> what does trump need to do to turn that around? will trump see the offensive with the public? >> largely you'll see him continue with what's got him to this point. 11 months ago when he got into this race, the gop establishment completely wrote him off and said this will be a flash in the pan candidate and gone. you see the democrats about a month ago when the spread was double digits between clinton
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and trump. now it's tightening and trump is leading in several major polls, democrats are no longer doing that. donald trump will stay on message. make america great again, concentrate on economy, security, foreign policy, all issues where hillary clinton is losing to donald trump. he will be appealing to those independents and blue dog democrats. 20% number is very important. 20% of democrats who would vote for sanders are going to be voting for trump. that number is only going to grow as that divisive primary will get worse and worse as sanders shall who says he's going to convention, and hillary clinton. hillary clinton is a terrible national candidate. she has only won two layup elections in her history. she did not have to win election to be first lady, only won two for senate and then was appoi appointed as secretary of state and was a failure as secretary of state. >> go ahead. >> donald trump has never run for election. so, you know --
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>> here are a couple of things that the trump campaign is not taking into consideration and something that these polls are not taking into consideration. polls this far out -- and, frankly, polls in general characteristically underrepresent voters of color. when you look at donald trump's negatives among latinos, women in general, and among african-americans, they are sky high. and we all know that without at least 42% of the hispanic vote for a republican candidate, there is no path. so, that is one thing to keep in mind. the second thing is that hillary clinton is also going to continue to keep on message. and when you have a candidate -- you know, today we have a piece in politico that talks about his detailed keks to the mob. when you have somebody who is as incompetent on foreign -- hey, that's not me writing it. that's politico. >> the clinton foundation, all the middle eastern money that's going into that. >> and when you talk about republicans, former defense secretary robert gates and a
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republican gop chairman of the homeland security about how dangerous donald trump's proposals are on foreign policy, these are things during a general election electorate will affect donald trump. >> if i were hillary clinton, i would not talk about foreign policy all day. >> he has not faced a general election electorate. it won't be as easy as it was in the primary electorate process. >> i would agree. it was very hard. it wasn't easy and he won. >> despite the high unfavorables and despite the fact that the two candidates are in the dead heat, people polled felt like hillary clinton had more experience, more foreign policy experience and also it talked about this idea of a third party candidate to run. in fact, more than 40% said they want a third party candidate to run. how concerning is that for trump, if someone else enters the race? >> not concerning at all. that discussion has been going on for months now. it's completely petering out.
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it will completely go away. once the deadline has passed -- they've already passed in major states like texas. i'm sure if hillary clinton was leading by 15%, maria wouldn't be saying these polls are worthless. >> sure i would. >> neither would hillary clinton. hillary clinton also dismissed the investigation that's been going on into the e-mail scandal. >> because they haven't found anything. they found nothing. >> her dismissals are not that important. it's the ongoing investigation with 100 federal agents on top of it. >> jackie, go ahead. >> i mean, you know, get ready. this is going to be a really long process. they're right. polls are going to go up and down. and, you know -- i will say there is one vulnerability that donald trump has. you see in some of the other polls. his tax returns. we'll have to wait and see if he does release those. republicans, democrats and independents want him to do that. >> leading in some of the major polls and will continue to do so. >> lots of issues. business dealings. get ready. >> what about the clinton
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foundation and their tax returns? >> five months to go. it will be quite a ride. >> that it is. >> jackie, maria, thank you so much. the search for the black boxes of egyptair flight 804 is intensifying this morning. submarine has been introduced to the investigation. meanwhile egyptian minister is warning people not to jump to any conclusions. he told reporters after the crash that terror was likely. the latest on the search coming up 15 minutes from now. first, explosions ripping through syria. now isis is claiming responsibility as iraq launches a major assault on the terror group. we'll be back. ♪rock-a-bye stacy
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isis is claiming responsibility for bombings that killed dozens this morning. these attacks on syria's coast coming as turmoil grips the middle east. iraqi officials pulling the trigger in fallujah, launching an assault to retake the city from the terror group. tens of thousands of civilians are still inside that city, trapped by isis. cnn's cnn is in fallujah. >> reporter: asking civilians in the city of fallujah to leave. as you know, that military operation is currently under way, starting overnight in iraq, to recapture that city of fallujah, the first city to have fallen to isis back in january of 2014, a very significant
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operation. they have been preparing for this for a very long time. as you mentioned, the real concern here is for the civilians inside fallujah. according to groups like human rights watch -- we've heard from the united nations -- there's an estimated -- they estimate there are tens of thousands of civilians who remain inside fallujah, unable to leave. they say they are trapped by isis inside the city. and that they are besieged by the iraqi security forces and the allied shia militias. we've heard the military, asking them, telling them they created safe passages, asking them to leave or call into the hotlines if they need assistance leaving. we've heard within recent weeks people have been unable to leave. there have been reports of people executed for trying to leave the city. isis executing them and also communications cut inside the city by isis. so, a lot of concern for the civilians. we're hearing from the iraqi prime minister, asking the
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security forces to be very cautious and to provide utmost attention when it comes to the civilians inside the city because when it comes to fallujah, pam, this is a predominantly sunni city. forces surrounding it, going into fallujah are predominantly shia. concern about the sectarian division s inside the city. >> thanks so much, jomana. "why they hate us" airs tonight at 9:00 pm only on cnn. forging ties with vietnam, lifting a decades-old ban on arm sales to vietnam. the president stressing it's dependent on vietnam's commitment to human rights. both sides have established a level of trust, he says.
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>> the decision to lift the ban was not based on china. it's been based on a lengthy process of moving toward normalization with vietnam. >> the president is having dinner with cnn's anthony bourda hichlt n, their conversation coming up in an upcoming episode of "anthony bourdain: parts unknown" in september. after u.s. air strikes take out their leader, taliban says they're not looking for a successor. nic robertson joins us. good morning, nic. >> key to who is the successor to mullah mansoor. clear to the white house he is dead after some wait, i think, by u.s. officials to get
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definitive evidence, presumably from the scene of the explosion, from drone strikes against the car he was traveling in with one man. afghan officials, too, saying he was dead. silence so far on official level from the taliban. we understand from sources they, in fact, had a meeting in the pakistani city, strike having happened in pakistan, long being accused of sheltering the afghan taliban, trying to get leverage over afghanistan. it's probably not good news for united states' interests. united states has suggested perhaps by killing mullah mansoor, because he was an opponent of peace talks they might find moderates willing to take his place that pursue that diplomatic path that. seems highly unlikely if you look at the list of who might replace him. the man the u.s. calls the key facilitator of al qaeda in
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afghanistan. most of the other names as well look potentially to be slightly more radical. and, of course, as we've seen with mullah mansoor, himself, they tend to prove their prowess on the battlefield, try to consolidate a fractureous -- killing the leader of the taliban, you know, this is a substantial high-profile strike inside pakistan. the biggest, frankly, since bin laden was killed in 2011. despite that, i think we're not likely to see a drop in violence in afghanistan and the very vital fighting season ahead or may see some disarray as they try to figure out who replaces him. pamela? >> thank you for that. mystery of egyptair flight 804. was it a mechanical problem or
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good morning to you. i'm pamela brown in for carol costello. thank you for being with us. a submarine has now joined the hunt for the egyptair plane in the mediterranean sea. an official who said terror was likely now taking a more cautious tone, warning the media not to jump to conclusions about what happened. in alexandria, egypt, nic robertson joins us now. what is the latest? >> reporter: a french patrol vessel has joined the search, a small submarine capable of
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descending to a depth of 1,000 meters, two specialist divers on board as well as, most importantly, acoustic detection systems that can detect the pings that come from the transmitters that attach to the black boxes that get triggered when the plane hits the water. these are very, very important right now for the egyptian navy to have these. they don't have these themselves. right now all our focus is on the seabed. thousands of feet below the mediterranean sea, the search for egyptair 804 continues. egypt, deploying a submarine, scouring the bottom of the ocean floor, 200 miles off the coast of alexandria, hoping to retrieve the plane's black boxes in waters nearly 2 miles deep in some parts. this is audio recordings of the two men flying the doomed flight released, the pilot making this
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final, now haunting call into air traffic control. >> thank you so much. good day. good night. >> just minutes before falling off radar. >> 804 this is turkish air 814. do you read me? >> smoke alerts near the cockpitb minutes before the crash, smoke indicators providing a new clue for investigators. was it mechanical failure or something deliberate, like terrorism, that made flight 804 suddenly drop 38,000 feet out of the sky? >> certainly an important element in a jigsaw puzzle that has to be fully compiled. >> reporter: french official telling passengers' families that no theory had been ruled out. >> we cannot, at this stage, come up with any conclusion. stop making, how do you call it, speculations without having facts. >> reporter: wreckage found over the weekend, reminders of the 66
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lives lost, including a purse and a child's pink backpack. what the french are also telling us is very cautionary as well at the moment. they think now their ships a involved, the search could take days or weeks. they won't be putting their submarine, all those acoustic devices in the water yet because they just haven't close enough located precisely where the plane went down, pam. >> could be some time before we have the answers we need here. nic robertson, thank you so much for bringing us the latest there. the big question, what is behind the fate of this crashed egyptair flight? was it mechanical failure or terrorism? joining us, mary schiavo. thank you for coming on. the plane sent these automatic messages we heard in nic's report about smoke near cockpit about minutes before it crashed
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and also conversations of a heated window in the cockpit. what can cause this? what does all of this tell you? >> based on prior accident reports there had been a problem reported on this window heater in airbus models 320 and 330. what happened was the connector, literally a wiring joint, had problems with both the insulation, the connector ports and the wiring. what happened was these windows overheated. curiously, it usually happened at 37,000 to 39,000 feet. the australians issued warnings on all the australian fleets and replaced the windows but the european union hadn't acted on that or made it mandatory. that is one thing that could have caused this alert, this window heat alert to go off. a short and overheating of those windows. >> so, in your view, what we know now, does all of this information rule out the possibility of a bomb or is it just too premature to do that? >> no, it's too premature to do
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that. it's really important to leave both options on the table. no matter which way this disaster, this tragedy goes, important problems have been highlighted. just shocking security lapses at charles de gaulle airport, which need to be closed. graffiti on an airplane saying we will bring it down, 85 people with suspected terror links with security badges in the airport. those loopholes must be closed and all options must be on the table for the investigation. but the information over the weekend showed some interesting developments. for example, the acars messages, automated warnings that the plane sends back to its base apparently came -- it all depends if this information is correct as being reported, but it came before that left-hand turn was executed by the pilots, which is a standard measure to get off the airwave if you're having trouble. they might have been
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experiencing trouble longer than we thought. there are heat sensors and fire sensors in the electronics bay. there's not heat suppression. pilots would have known about fire unless's a smoldering fire and lavatory sensors are audible. they sense heat, smoke. whatever it is started in the cockpit and whatever it was certainly did not blow the plane apart instantaneous like a pan-am bombing. it took longer than we thought. >> the search is on for the flight data recorders. how key will that be in bringing us closer to answers? >> that is just absolutely the key. no matter which way it is. terrorism or mechanical. it's vitally important to get black boxes to save future lives. i've worked with hundreds of families over the years with air
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crashes. their one wish is to prevent something like that from happening again. whether it is terrorism or mechanical, those black boxes probably hold the only answer. airbus issued a statement over the weekend saying they can't make sense of these messages either. so, we really have to have both the cockpit voice recording, which will have what the pilots were doing in those last six or so minutes. and the flight data recorder will tell us, truly, which event happened first. and that probably holds the key. >> all right. mary schiavo, thank you very much. >> thank you. still to come on this monday, donald trump and hillary clinton, readying for a political battle of the ages. but with record unfavorability on both sides, will the rhetoric alienate or galvanize voters? homeowners insurance life insurance automobile insurance i spent 20 years active duty they still refer to me as "gunnery sergeant" when i call being a usaa member because of my service in the military
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hillary clinton and donald trump are giving a preview now of what their highly anticipated showdown will look like, both
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sides coming out swinging over the tone and language on display, in this ruckus primary season. >> and as we go through this campaign, we're going to be demonstrating the hollowness of his rhetoric. and the danger of a lot of what he has said. >> our country is in trouble. isis is laughing at us. they see somebody like hillary clinton who, you know, reads off her teleprompter and copies my expressions. she copied exactly what i said about her. two days later sheerks said the same thing. come up with your own expressions. no imagination. >> all right. joining me now, democratic congressman brad sherman of california. he is a member of the house foreign affairs and financial services committee. he is also a supporter of hillary clinton. congressman, thank you for kochling on. >> good to be with you. >> over the weekend, donald trump tweeted "crooked hillary.
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unleashed isis in libya. she is reckless and dangerous. just today dozens of people died in the region. you're a clinton supporter. how do you respond to trump's attacks? >> i think donald trump offers criticism but doesn't offer new policy. he implies that -- he claims if elected president, will he sweep away isis right away. so i asked him to come bring his secret plan for eliminating isis quickly to the foreign affairs committee, so that we could hear it in confidential session. we've gotten no response. and that's because he has no plan. his only plan is say something outrageous and upsetting and then walk it back. his statement that he would ban all muslims, every single muslim from crossing the u.s. border is going to be a terrible burden on him, if he becomes president of the united states. i know he has tried to walk it back. but when you say american service men serving us abroad can't come back to their homes because of their religion, when you say that we cannot meet with
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prime ministers and kings in generals from the arab world, who are our allies, because we won't let them land at our airports, that is not only insulting, it's practically ridiculous. >> in your view, how is that rhetoric impacting u.s. relations with foreign countries? >> right now he's not president. i don't think the world believes he is going to become president. so i think he is a modest embarrassment to those of us conducting foreign policy around the world. especially our diplomats. i shoulder to think what would happen if he became president and he had to go on an apology tour for saying to every one of 1.5 billion muslims around the world that they can't enter the united states even if they are with us as allies, fighting our enemies. >> you can't ignore the fact that he certainly has tapped into something with millions of people who support him. we're now seeing republican rank
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and file coalescing around him. me meanwhile on the democratic side it's a different story. bernie sanders continues his fight. he has come out, saying that he is supporting the opponent of debbie wasserman-schultz and that there are issues within the dnc leadership. how much does that division within the democratic party concern you in terms of hillary clinton? >> parties go through this until the very last primary that is contested. look at all the terrible things that the republican candidates said about each other and now about a week or so after the last republican opponent throws in the towel, donald trump is getting a bounce in the polls because foreign policy experts, he is uniting republican voters. that same bump will be available to hillary clinton when the race is over. the race isn't over until
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there's a concession. and i don't expect that to happen until the middle of june. so, we have another few weeks where this race is going to be contested. bernie has every right to contest it. and that's what he has decided to do. >> both trump and clinton have record high unfavorable ratings in the latest polls that came out. clinton responded to this and said basically these polls so far mean nothing this far out, five months out in the general election. is she right or is this something that she needs to worry about right now? >> this is like the first inning of a tied baseball game. there's a long way to go. you will look at how much americans respected and approved of hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. you realize that when she's actually engaged in public
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service, we have tremendous respect for hillary clinton. it's just now when she's subject, as she has been, at various times since 1992, to this huge barrage of negatives, it does have an affect. i would expect that the trump campaign will be ugly. it was ugly against his fellow republicans and i suspect that it will drive up both his negatives and her negatives even higher than they are now. but the trump campaign is a negative campaign. >> wow! all right. democratic congressman brad sherman of california, thank you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, the verdict in the second freddie gray trial. will a baltimore police officer be found guilty of assault? fight heartburn fast. with tums chewy delights. the mouthwatering soft chew that goes to work in seconds to conquer heartburn fast. tum tum tum tum. chewy delights. only from tums.
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we're a few minutes away now from a verdict in the second trial related to the death of freddie gray. baltimore police officer edward nero was charged with second-degree assault. he allegedly touched gray during an arrest that prosecutors say was illegal, and he's also accused of reckless endangerment for not putting a seat belt on him. gray died from a broken back after being shackled without a seat belt in a police van. miguel marquez joins us from right outside the courthouse. miguel? >> reporter: he's also charged with two counts of misconduct in office for those same incidents. in that famous video we see of the arrest of mr. gray, mr. nero was identified as one of those who moved mr. gray from the sidewalk into that van. what is interesting about what this judge has been asked to decide, this is a bench trial,
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no jury, so this would be a fairly quick decision about 10:30 eastern time when the judge takes the bench. what is interesting about this is that the prosecution says that this was a lawful stop of mr. gray, a detention of mr. gray until some point, they say, that it became unlawful, that he was handcuffed, that he was held down, and then when he was moved into that van. mr. nero's lawyers argue that mr. nero wasn't there at the initial takedown of mr. gray but only came along later. the prosecutor says that wasn't true. his defense basically saying he had very little to do with this arre arrest. he only was there to prop mr. gray up, talk to him. he seemed fine, they say, and then he moved him into the van. when he moved him into that van, they stay, he did not either seat belt mr. gray or ask for a seat belt to be put on him and that's the reckless endangerment. >> we'll be waiting for that verdict. miguel, thank you so much. in other news, quarterback
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tom brady's legal team is appealing a four-game suspension imposed by the nfl over the deflategate scandal. his attorneys will file a petition today asking a u.s. appeals court to rehear his case. last month a panel of judges ruled in favor of the nfl and reinstated brady's suspension. well, this was supposed to be a big night for the san diego gay men's chorus. they were invited to sing the national anthem before the padres game. as they were ready to start singing, something went wrong. cnn's coy wire is here to tell us about that and what exactly happened, who is taking the blame. coy, what went down? >> pam, we're talking about the 100-member award winning san diego gay men's chorus. all set to sing "the star-spangled banner" at petco park, saturday night, padres taking on the dodgers. before they could sing a single note, this happened. ♪ can you see by the dawn's
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early light ♪ ♪ what so proudly we hail >> unable to perform, drowned out by a prerecorded track of a woman singing the national anthem instead. 100 men north fied standing there for it's entire song and escorted off with no explanation. some of the fans were shouting homophobic slurs as the men exited the fields yelling things like you sing like a girl. the padres have apologized, said it wasn't done on purpose and they have disciplined an employee and stopped working with a contractor who were responsible for that marring performance. the san diego gay men's chorus still wants answers. they're calling for a full investigation by the padres and major league baseball. was this malicious intent? anti-gay discrimination? or was it a hate crime. >> billy beane, who happens to be openly gay, released a statement in support of the padres saying i can assure you they have made every effort to
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well, good monday morning. i'm pamela brown in for carol costello. thanks so much for joining me. hillary clinton is brushing off a pair of poll that is shows her big lead dissolving in a november showdown. they show her now locked in a statistical dead heat with
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likely republican nominee donald trump. "the washington post"/abc survey shows clinton now trailing by a couple points. the nbc/"wall street journal" poll show her leading by just few points. both are within the margin of error. meanwhile, trump may be inching closer to picking a running mate. he's set to meet with senator bob corker of tennessee. we'll talk about what corker would bring to the ticket coming up. we'll break down all the angles with cnn's political correspondents. let's begin with phil mattingly. >> reporter: good morning, pam. that was quick. that was the three-word e-mail i got talking about those polls and not just how quickly donald trump closed what had been a double digit gap with hillary clinton over the last couple of weeks, but also the willingness of republicans to get behind donald trump over the course of a month. 14-point increase in support within his own party, and that is largely driving these numbers that have obviously got ten a lt better for donald trump since he became the presumptive nominee
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and it's something hillary clinton can't claim still in a fight with bernie sanders, even though she's not necessarily willing to admit she's still in a fight. take a listen. >> i'm going to keep focused on donald trump because i will be the nominee, i will be running against donald trump in the fall, and i do not want americans and, you know, good thinking republicans as well as democrats and independents to start to believe that this is a normal candidacy. it isn't. >> reporter: hillary clinton obviously moving past bernie sanders who still very much is in that primary looking exactly at donald trump, and, again, trying to continue a message she started on cnn last week, that he is almost disqualified from being the president of the united states, but what's interesting here going forward and as start to dig into these polls is where are each of these candidates looking for votes? donald trump has made very clear he believes he will benefit from democratic cross overs in states like pennsylvania or ohio or
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michigan. take a listen to what paul ryan told politico's glen thrush. >> is it your sense that there is a trump voter or are there just essentially republican leaning voters? >> i spend my time focusing on what my job is here but i do believe there are trump democrats. i see that in wisconsin. we have reagan democrats in wisconsin and michigan. in the upper midwest is where i think the term reagan democrat got coined. >> that's right. >> and i do see trump democrats. >> trump democrats are essentially what donald trump's team is pointing to as the ability for donald trump to expand the map and really take advantage of areas where democrats traditionally have lost support. now, hillary clinton's team kind of scoffs at that, and again, pam, as you noted, brushes aside the most recent polls. she's still in a heated primary battle and still targeting a number of democratic areas right now where she believes she will absolutely succeed in going forward. still, the polls are tightening.
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this race is getting a lot more interesting. pam? >> all right. phil mattingly, thank you so much. and it will continue to be interesting over the next five months until the general election, and today bernie sanders is back on the trail in california where some 475 delegates are up for grabs in the state's june 7 pt primary. sanders hopes a win in california will boost his odds. and this weekend the vermont senator had a message for anyone who may still be on the fence. >> if you want the strongest candidate to make sure that trump does not become president, we are that campaign. >> and as sanders courts voters he's causing friction amongst democrats escalating his war of words with the party. senior correspondent joe johns has more on that. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, pamela. what do establishment democrats want? they want unity, but the sanders supporters want him to keep fighting and that's what he's doing, asserting that if he's
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elected he would get rid of the current democratic party chair but also suggesting that if hillary clinton and donald trump are the nominees, the american public would essentially be faced with a hold your nose election, though it is true that the polls suggest both candidates have sky-high negatives. listen. >> we need a campaign, an election, coming up which does not have two candidates who are really very, very strongly disliked. i don't want to see the american people voting for the lesser of two evils. >> is that how you would describe hillary clinton against donald trump, the lesser of two evils? >> well, if you look -- no, i wouldn't describe it, but that's what the american people are saying. >> reporter: so the question today and for the immediate future is how will the democratic party put up a united front after all of this? now, they have been unified before. eight years ago when hillary clinton was running against then-senator barack obama, there was a lot of hand wringing over
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the divisiveness of the primary race, and that party still ended up winning the white house, but there is a concern that donald trump has gotten a head start on the democrats and that once they get their nominee settled, they're going to have to do some catching up. pamela? >> joe johns, thanks so much. let's discuss all that. sanders' refusal to surrender means hillary clinton is forced to fight on two fronts and is losing precious time and momentum. according to the new polls, her double digit lead from last month has dissolved into a statistical dead heat with donald trump. joining me now to talk about all of this, daily beast columnic sally coen, joined by jeffrey lord who is also a cnn political commentator, and bernard whitman, a hillary clinton supporter. thank you to the three of you for coming on. we do appreciate it. sally, first to you, just on the heels of what we heard joe say, do you think that bernie sanders, whom you supported, needs to stale back his rhetoric when it comes to going after party leaders, democratic party leaders? we heard him say if he was
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president, that debbie wasserman schultz would no longer be the chair of the dnc. >> well, i think sanders feels, and there's some good reasons for this, that debbie wasserman schultz and the democratic party have not treated his campaign favorably, and so i think that's fair game. and, look, you know, i'm glad joe brought up 2008. in 2008 everyone was saying this is the most divisive democratic primary ever, and weeks after, weeks after this point in time in 2008 then-senator barack obama was polling under john mccain in national match-ups, and he went on to win by, what, seven, eight, almost nine points. i think we have to sort -- and by the way, before that polls said that 20% of hillary clinton's supporters would not go on to support barack obama if he was the eventual nom ninenom. everybody with just cool their jets. this is a democratic process.
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we are the democratic party. this is good. this is good for hillary, good for bernie, definitely good for the bernie. we have plenty of time to heal and unite behind whoever the nominee is. >> do the polls matter right now five months out? you heard hillary clinton brush them off saying right now they don't matter. you heard sally say cool your jets. >> i think to some degree sally is right. these things are snapshots of a moment in time. what's interesting is a couple things interesting about them. number one, the thing to watch with these kind of polls this early on is the trend. the fact that donald trump has gained on hillary clinton and overtaken her in some cases is interesting. we need to see where this trend goes as the months ahead move along. the second thing we need to watch is not to be so mesmerized by these national polls that we forget that it's individual polls of states that matters. that is how we elect presidents after all with the electoral college. so, for instance, the polls that came out i think it was last week or the week before of the
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battleground states of here in pennsylvania, florida, and ohio that showed the two of them either nip and tuck or with donald trump ahead by, i think, four points in ohio, those are the kind of polls you really need to pay attention to as we move along. >> and i know that within that context perhaps the polls aren't going to predict what's going to happen come november, but, bernard, something that the polls do show when you look back the last few months is that clinton was up double digits against trump a few months ago, back in march, i believe one poll had her up 11 points. now there's a dead heat. what's going on here? >> there's to question donald trump has been able to consolidate the republican party probably faster than anyone of us should have thought. he should be sending daily love notes to ted cruz and bernie sanders for the ability to do that. frankly, the lack of ability for clinton to unite the democratic party is largely due to bernie
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sanders persistence in perpetuating the myth he can wrest the nomination from hillary clinton which i think is disingenuous and dishonest but what are really behind those numbers are independent voters who have supported bernie sanders in the polls and in states, open primary states and caucus states where independents can vote. i think once we get past june 7th, california votes, new jersey votes, and hillary clinton can unite the democratic party and unite progressives behind her cause, you'll start to see her numbers go back above 50%. but i will say one thing with respect to the polls. what those polls don't show are the faculties of the race, and the fundamentals of the race give an advantage to hillary clinton because 1 in 3 people in this election are going to be people of color and donald trump is underwater with latinos by 3 to 1, and among african-americans by 4 to 1. you have states like arizona which has been a reliable republican battleground for years potentially in play, and that's why people like john mccain are staying as far away from cleveland as possible. >> right.
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jeffrey, both have unfavorables, historic unfavorables, but as he noted there, donald trump is particularly under water with hispani hispanics, with women, with african-americans. what does he plan to do to bridge that gap? are you concerned that if he becomes more measured, more conciliatory that perhaps he could, you know, risk his base? what does he do here? >> i don't think so. i mean, what i think he's going to do is appeal on economic grounds and, frankly, humanitarian grounds. i received a note from a latina woman the other day who is a trump supporter, and she went into great detail about how the wall is not just a national security measure but is a humanitarian measure, and she described the plight of illegal immigrants and how they're taken advantage of and a family member who had been taken terrible advantage of, coming over, expecting a job, and being badly
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mistreated. i think he can make this pitch to people, and i think he can make it on economic grounds. after all, when you look at the unemployment rate, for example, in the black community, it's sky high, and, you know, they've had an african-american president for eight years. this has nothing to do with race. this has to do with policy. >> sally, you're laughing. >> i'm sorry -- >> dump in sally. >> donald trump who wants to round up, detain, and deport 11 million people and bar muslims, 1.4 billion of the world's muslims, 20%, 30% of the entire world, ban them because of their faith from this country, ban them -- >> that's not correct, sally. >> ban them from seeing their family members and loved ones let alone traveling and enriching this country. but he's going to run as a humanitarian. that's going to be fun. >> well, sally, we're talking about a temporary ban until we straighten out the immigration system, the legal immigration system. surely you're not saying we should allow people in who want
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to mass murder americans, are you? >> let's not say it's either or nothing. you know that we can allow people into this country as we have historically and preserve our safety and our values and, again, you want to rationalize this in any way you want to rationalize this, everybody said those policies would be bad for national security and bad for our economy but good god don't call it humanitarianism. >> you have all gotten your points expressed here. thank you so much, and this conversation, of course, will continue. we still have five months to go until the general. thanks so much to the three of you. >> thank you. meantime, president obama forging new ties with vietnam announcing that the u.s. is lifting the decades' old ban on armed sales to vietnam. the president is defending this decision stressing that it's dependent on vietnam's commitment to human rights. mr. barack obama says both sides have established a level of trust. >> the decision to lift the ban was not based on china or any
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>> reporter: well, the latest is the french have now brought a patrol vessel and it's got two specialist divers, it's own submarine, and most importantly acoustic detectors. these acoustic detectors are what will be needed to help find the black boxes. when the black boxes hit the water, we know the transmitters on them switch on and send out a ping, and it's these acoustic devices that can hear that ping. but what the french are also telling us is that before they can put those acoustic detectors in the water, they really need to focus in and know more precisely where the plane went down, and they say they're still working on that. could be days, could be works. now, the egyptians have got their submarine in the water, they say. it could operate to a depth of 3,000 meters. we've been talking about how deep the mediterranean is, and in places as much as two miles, as much as 5,000 to 6,000 meters. however, in that search area, and it's a large search area, there may be areas that are at a
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depth of about 3,000 meters, and that may mean that that egyptian submarine is able to get closer to the bottom to get a visual inspection, but it's going to be the pings and these devices brought in by this french patrol vessel that are going to be critical now in moving forward to getting closer to the black boxes. >> okay. nic robertson. thank you so much. keep us posted on what happens out there as the search for more wreck yage continues. and still ahead on this monday morning, what will it take for donald trump to win the white house? paul ryan has some ideas and you will hear what he has to say right after this break. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. ♪ ♪ (singing) you wouldn't haul a load without checking your clearance.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> well, good morning. i'm pamela brown in for carol costello. thanks so much for being here with us on this monday. the high court just issued a major opinion on a case involving racial discrimination and jury selection in a 7-1 vote. the high court ruled in favor of a black defendant who was charged with killing an elderly white woman. this black defendant right here claimed that there was racial discrimination in the jury selection in his case. i want to go straight to jeffrey toobin for more analysis on this. how significant is this opinion, jeffrey? >> well, this is a case about discrimination by prosecutors in jury selection, and what made this case is unusual is that well after the verdict the defense was able to obtain actual notes that prosecutors
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took during jury selection indicating very clearly that they were focused on the race of the prospective jurors and eliminated all the black possible jurors in the case. the court almost unanimously, except with justice clarence thomas, who dissented, decided this was clear evidence of discrimination and they have overturned his murder conviction. >> and i want to go to the supreme court with more on this opinion. ari ari arian, what did the justices say? >> reporter: they came down with this decision about this racial discrimination in jury selection. it was a 1987, timothy tyrone foster, an african-american, was convicted of killing a white woman and convicted by an all-white jury. 20 years later his team obtained the prosecutor's note which they
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said illegally took race into consideration. today the supreme court, 7-1 with chief justice roberts writing, has ruled in his favor. this may not have a broad implication because it's very rare obviously to get smoking gun documents like his lawyers did, but the chief's words are firm here. he said the focus on race in the prosecution's file plainly demonstrates a concerted effort to keep black prospective jurors off the jury. this is going to come as a welcome relief to those people who believe that racial discrimination in jury selection still persists too much today. >> and on that note, jeffrey, i'm going to bring you in because in the amicus briefs there were both republicans and democrats who said that this is a huge problem where prosecutors will basically eliminate jurors based on race, but then they will get around that by showing
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a nonracial reason for striking out a potential juror. tell us how this will impact that situation. will it make it harder? will this pan make opinion maker for prosecutors to get around this? >> well, i think actually this case doesn't really address that problem because the evidence was so obvious of racial motive in this case. the problem, the really difficult cases, involve cases where prosecutors strike black jurors but they come up with racially neutral reasons, like the jurors didn't -- his eyes didn't meet my eyes. he looked deceptive in answering questions. those sorts of excuses to strike jurors are much harder for the courts to police than a circumstance like this where the racial motive of the prosecutors was just laid right out with pen
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and paper. the problem you address, you raise, which is sort of the secret and difficult to discern racial motive, that just remains a big problem and something that the legal system struggles with all the time. >> i want to bring in cnn contributor steve ladick to talk more about this. how significant in your view, steve, is this ruling and how broad is this opinion? >> it's a fairly narrow ruling because these cases tend to be so fact specific and because it really is rare that you're going to have such a smoking gun in the notes of the prosecutors. that said, i think it's a very important symbolic step from the supreme court today. it's a 7-1 ruling, so you have both liberals and conservatives joining together to basically say even in this day and age, this kind of behavior is still intolerable when it comes to prosecutors. i think we're going to see this giving new life to these so-called batson claims in the
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lower courts and greater attention to the role of racial bias in jury selection. >> the dissent was from justice thomas. can you expand on what he had to say in the dissent. >> justice thomas offered to different arguments in his dissent. the first was a technical one, that the court shouldn't have even taken this case because of the weird way it got to the supreme court from the georgia state courts. but substantively justice thomas was basically saying that there was enough justification unrelated to race in the state's explanation and that the supreme court owes deference to the georgia state courts and there wasn't quite enough evidence for the court to overturn the state court's determination. i think that's really easily rebutted by the chief justice's majority opinion, but an interesting statement from the one black justice on the current supreme court. >> okay. thank you so much for breaking this down for us. our legal analysts and reporters, jeffrey, ariane, and steve.
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well, if the gop comes together, donald trump could win, so says paul ryan, speaker of the house and a lawmaker who has been very candid about his own differences with the presumptive gop nominee. ryan is spelling out exactly what it will take for his party to recapture the white house. >> do you think he can really win? >> yeah, sure, of course i do. >> would you say if you were a betting man, would you say he's going to win? >> i'm not a betting man, so, you know, i think if we get our party unified and if we do the work we need to do to get ourselves at full strength and if we offer the country a clear and compelling agenda that is
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inspiring, that is inclusive, that fixes problems, that is solutions-based and based on good principles, then, yes, i think we can win. but i think this is a we, not just one person. this is a we effort. >> joining me now to discuss this, ron brownstein, senior editor for the atlantic, david gergen, former adviser to ford, nixon, reagan, and clinton, and kayleigh mcenany. thank you for coming on this monday. a lot to discuss, the new polls out, the comments from paul ryan. as you heard him say, david, the party needs to unite for trump to be the next president but he has yet to come out and fully endorse him. what do you make of his comments? >> i think he's on the path to endorsing but he wants to encourage donald trump not only to embrace more of his agenda, but to change the tone of his campaign, to become, quote, more presidential. i think that's going to be one
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of the great tests for trump in the next few months is how does he become more presidential and bring in more independent voters, for example, and more women while at the same time retaining that kind of charismatic i don't give a damn, i'm going to say anything i please spirit that has attracted a lot of people to him? you know, can he have it both ways? >> well, and you hear what paul ryan kind of listed off. these are the things that need to happen for trump to win. kayleigh, do you think he's going to do all of those things that we just heard paul ryan list off there, these lists of conditions that more or less contradict trump's position thus far in the race? >> you know, i have tremendous respect for the speaker, but the point is i think that voters put out there when they elected donald trump commandingly with more votes than any republican nominee in history, the message they were sending is that they're rejecting republican leadership as it stands and they want something new. they want donald trump. so i think it's donald trump
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setting the agenda here. it's not speaker ryan. i think speaker ryan is very late to the game on this. we've already seen a lot of unification around trump from senator corker warming up to him. there's even reports of him and lindsey graham and him having friendly conversations behind the scenes. i think speaker ryan will get there but where was speaker ryan when he was romney's running mate calling romney out for laying down the blueprint for obamacare in massachusetts? he was running mates with him and never called out romney for these things. so i have to wonder why now, why donald trump, and where was he with mitt romney a few years ago? >> and you have to look at these latest polls, really remarkable, ron. you know, the fact that, first of all, clinton and trump, according to the polls, are in a dead heat. some may argue it's too far out. we still have five months og, they don't matter but the unfavorables are historic. look how high the unfavorables are for both clinton and trump. what do you make of that? >> yeah, it's really striking. what has happened is because of
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the unfavorables for hillary clinton are now so high as well, it essentially has neutralized the historical lie high unfavorables for donald trump and left us with what looks like a generic democratic/republicans contest with two exceptions. basically most of the results of these polls follow the central tracks that we see in elections but there are two things that are different. hillary clinton is notably underperforming with younger voters. barack obama won two-thirds of them in '08, three-fifth of them in '12. she's getting under half. and donald trump is significantly underperforming with college educated white voters relative to previous republican nominees. about even among those voters. mitt romney won them by 14 points in 2012. i think in many ways the general election will be which one of them can solve this problem will be the key question because you are seeing, as kayleigh was noting, while the leadership of the republican party is still fractured, rank and file
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republicans in a binary system are largely consolidating around donald trump as an alternative to hillary clinton who they like even less. >> right. and on that note, david, how much do you think the fact that there is still that fight going on between hillary and bernie impacted these poll numbers that we see right here? >> it's a hard one to judge. most democrats have already now swung behind hillary. she's got about the same 85% support of democrats that trump has, 85% of republicans. but the assumption in the clinton camp is that once she can rid herself of this priest effect, this man who is drawing her down and she keeps on -- can't shake him off and it weakens her, once that happens, that there will be more of a surge to her. i'm not sure that's the case. the surge may already have come, but i do think it will make it remarkably easier for her once she gets past sanders, if she can. i think the other thing though
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that, pamela, and ron would have a particularly good view of this, what we see so far in this head-to-head dead heat race, which is remarkable we're here, is both candidates are still down in the low 40s. that means there are maybe 15% of people who haven't really made up their minds. does that leave room for a third-party candidate? can a gary johnson, the libertarian candidate, the perennial libertarian who never gets anywhere, but yet in recent polls would pick up 10% of a three-way race. i'd be curious on ron's views. >> and you said you're not so sure that hillary clinton will get that surge if bernie sanders drops out. why is that? is it because you think that some of these supporters for bernie are going to go to the trump side. in fact, in the latest poll i think more than 20% said they would throw their support behind donald trump. >> well, we don't know how many democrats are left to surge if she's already at 85. so you have that question to start with, but i do think that
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it's very, very unusual -- we always thought that the republicans would have fisticuffs at their convention, be a lot of contention. now it's going to be at the democratic side. she's got to come out of that united with him supporting her enthusiastically. >> real quick, in terms of sanders and clinton, sanders has been strongest among independents and it may be with younger independents that clinton still has the most room to grow if she gets past that because the numbers among millennials are troubling for her. >> i want you to respond, ron, and kayleigh, i'll give the final word to you, but, ron, about this libertarian candidate that david brought up. what are your thoughts? >> we've never seen anything like two nominees with 58%, 59% unfavorables. the question is will those voters be willing to vote for a third party if they are worried that by doing so they might inadvertently help the candidate they like least? that's post-2000, post the ralph nader run. that's held down the third-party
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votes. the 97,000 people who left their homes in florida voting for ralph nader, they got george w. bush. the question is whether voters will shy back from doing that. i'm guessing in the end that's what happens in a binary but it's an open field given the high negatives. >> how concerning is a third-party candidate for donald trump if that happens, kayleigh? >> i don't think it's concerning at all. look, the narrative of 2016, of this election, i think it's going to be written as this is the outsiders election. this is the election where you had tremendous discontent in both parties. on the democrat side and the republican side with the establishment. donald trump is the ultimate outsider. hillary clinton is the ultimately insider. i think when you have a contest between those two things you will see a lot of people from the democrat side and republican side frustrated with washington. i'm not worried with a third-party candidate at all. >> ron, david, kayleigh, thanks so much. appreciate you sharing your
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well, major developments this morning from across some of the world's terror strongholds. first a taliban splinter group says they're looking for a new successor after a u.s. drone strike takes out their leader. according to the white house mullah mansour was killed during a series of air strikes on the car he was traveling in. president obama calling his death a milestone. and meanwhile, isis is now claiming responsibility for a series of bombing attacks in syria that killed at least 78 people. the blast targeted bus stations and residential areas. syrian tv says the explosions came from a combination of car bombings and suicide bombings. and cnn was the only
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television network to travel overseas with general joe votel, the top u.s. commander in the middle east ton a secret mission to syria. cnn's barbara starr joins us with this exclusive report. barbara, why did he take this trip? tell us more about it. >> reporter: well, general votel went to syria. he says he wanted to see it all firsthand. there's nothing to hide from the american people about what u.s. troops are doing there. he was the highest ranking officer to go into this war zone. these are the first images ever shown publicly from a u.s. special operations training camp in northern syria. from here and other secret nearby locations, the u.s. military is racing time to train enough local syrian forces so they can push south towards raqqah, isis' declared capital. cnn was the only tell advievisi
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network on the general with his secret day-long trip to syria. votel overseas the war against isis. >> my principal purpose was to meet with some of the syrian democratic force and leadership in multiple locations and also to meet with our adviser teams. >> general votel has come to northern syria under extraordinary security conditions. in fact, we've been asked not to reveal a number of details on how we all got here. but votel considers this part of the war a top priority. he is here to meet with the u.s. military advisers that are helping some of these local troops that you see work to defeat isis. votel went to multiple locations we've been asked not to disclowe meeting with key local leaders in the syrian local forces. an umbrella organization overseeing many of these arab fighters the u.s. is training.
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a spokesman for the arab forces being trained here is critical of u.s. efforts. he says his group urgently needs more ammunition and weapons beyond the few ammunition supplies he says the u.s. has delivered. >> translator: we've been given a limited number of old rifles. >> reporter: due to security concerns, we are not allowed to show details of the base. our cameras are restricted. security is so high here the u.s. advisers want their faces shielded, but they do want to talk about the training. you're a military adviser here. what do you guys do here? >> we are here training the syrian democratic forces. now, when i say training, generally that's consisting of basic level weapons training, shooting ak-47s and shooting larger machine guns. >> their four star general taking an extraordinary step to see it all firsthand. >> i have responsibility for
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this mission. i have responsibility for the people that we put here, so it's imperative for me to come and see what they're dealing with, to share the risk that they are absorbing on a day-to-day basis. >> reporter: even as the arab fighters here patrol the surrounding fields and stand watch getting ready for whatever their future holds. now, that interview was general votel was inside syria at the end of a very long day across the northern portions of syria where he traveled. joe votel has decades of experience in special operations, the very experience that these young american forces we met are getting on this mission. this is a general who knows what is required and the kind of military personnel it takes to make it happen. pamela? >> barbara starr, thank you so much for bringing us that exclusive report. and joining us now is cnn military analyst lieutenant rick
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francona. thank you for coming in. the instability in the rige, this new attempt to retake fallujah, are things getting better or worse in the wake of all the u.s. efforts there as barbara highlighted? >> well, it's two separate problems we're facing, and barbara gave an excellent report of what's going on in sear yand i think general votel's visit to syria highlights how tenuous the situation in syria is. we have to get a handle on what we need to do in syria, what resources are required. i think that's why he wengt there, and i think it was important for him to hear from the syrian democratic force commanders what they're not getting because we're not giving the effort that we need to there. i do appreciate the fact that they're increasing the number of special forces on the ground there. turning to iraq, it looks like the plans are coming together, but it's a completely different situation. in iraq there are the bad guys, that's isis, and everybody else
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is allied an arrayed against them. in syria you have a multifaceted battle, you have the russians, the democratic forces, the kurds. it's a jumble over there. what we're seeing starting in fallujah is the retaking of the city. it's the next step. the iraqis have to eradicate isis from the anbar province before they can start north to liberate mosul. their job in iraq is to retake mosul and the northern part of their country. syria, still a big, big problem. we still don't have a handle on how we're going to do it, let alone what we're going to do. >> does the iraqi military, is it equipped to retake fallujah. tens of thousands of citizens still trapped in fallujah as we speak. >> you went right to the heart of it. this is the problem. the iraqi forces are better, but they're not there yet. so if you look at the force structure that they've put in place toti go after fallujah, t majority of the fighting forces are the iraqi national police.
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they're going to be backed up with some regular soldiers and the bulk of the fighting on the ground will also be done by the shia militias. this is a problem when you bring shia militias into the sunni triangle area, you have to be very careful how they're going to do that. they have to let them get in the there, let them fight and then get them out. they have to be careful with this tension, and the tension is very high right now because of all of these isis bombings in baghdad. the residents are more concerned about their own security than the liberation of fallujah or the liberation of mosul. >> such a delicate, tenuous situation. tonight on cnn fareed zakaria has a special investigation, "why they hate us" airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. i'm pamela brown in for carol
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. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. >> and i'm john berman. it's neck and neck. it's a tie, it's a dead heat, it's may. all of the above are true, but which is the most important? two national polls, new national polls, show donald trump closing a double digit gap with hillary clinton, and one poll he's even leading her right now. "washington post"/abc news poll has trump leading clinton 46 to 44%. that's an 11-point shift for donald trump since march. "the wall street journal"/nbc news poll has trump at 43%, clinton a littlead

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