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results. donald trump practically guaranteed to get yet another win. that takes him closer to officially becoming the republican presidential nominee. trump is confident he'll win most if not all of the 44 delegates at stake in washington state. right now, he needs 48 delegates. he's 48 delegates short of the 1,237 he needs to officially win the nomination. so by the end of the night, he'll be very, very close to officially clinching he is the presumptive republican nominee. bernie sanders beat hillary clinton in the contest that counts for the democrats in washington state caucuses that were held back in march. right now, i want to go back to albuquerque, new mexico. that's where dan simon is outside the convention center, where donald trump just wrapped up his speech. still protesters outside, dan, what's the latest? dan, you having trouble hearing me? i can see you're having trouble hearing me. but i can just explain to the viewers that there were
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anti-trump protesters there -- >> reporter: -- we have set up these barricades that have come down. they're trying to restore order. it's not quite what it was a few minutes ago. but fortunately, still a sizable amount of protesters out here. obviously, you had a significant number of them, who wanted to cause some problems. they came here to have a confrontation with police. they were throwing rocks, throwing bottles at police officers. we have to say, showed remarkable restraint in dealing with these protesters. to be perfectly honest, i haven't seen a single person arrested all night. we haven't seen anybody hurt. but things still remain tense here, even though this rally has been over for quite some time. still several people here at the scene. i can't hear you, wolf. so i'll toss it back to you. >> all right, dan, stand by. we're going to get back to you, dan simon, outside the convention center in albuquerque, new mexico. that's where donald trump spoke inside. he had a huge crowd inside. there were some protesters, a few, inside, but obviously, a
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lot more outside. jake, we're going to continue to monitor this situation. >> thanks, wolf. let's talk about what we just saw with our panel here. and first of all, jeffrey lord. we've seen these kinds of protests before in chicago and elsewhere. what do you think, if any, is the political affect of seeing these anti-trump protesters throwing things at police? >> it helps donald trump, without question. i mean, as the chicago democratic convention helped richard nixon. what it does is presents a picture of chaos. and these are folks, i mean, i keep saying this and i know there are doubters when i say this, but this kind of thing is in the dna of the left wing, whether it's occupy wall street, whether it's vietnam. you can go back through any number of things. this is what happens. and the sad thing is, you can't control this. i mean, i can see this with all due respect to the mayor, i can see this kind of thing erupting in philadelphia, where donald
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trump will be nowhere in evidence of the democratic convention. it's not going to be everybody, but all you need, like tonight, is handful of people that are determined to do things. smash windows in seattle because of occupy wall street, et cetera. that's the problem. and it's always been the problem and it's a problem tonight. >> mr. mayor? >> there's no way in the world that donald trump can just escape any level of responsibility, whether they're, you know, in the convention, outside the convention, in the city, or not. so as a former mayor, first of all, you know, my heart certainly goes out to mayor jackson in cleveland and in our own hometown. but he needs to say something about this and also recognize that his heated rhetoric, his divisiveness, the hate at times he ferments by his own statements and comments generates this kind of activity. and if you're running for president of the united states of america, just show a little more dignity in how you conduct yourself in this kind of
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contest. no city. not cleveland, not philadelphia, no one, should be faced with this kind of insanity going on, there were protests inside and outside. and we should all be concerned with what happens with these conventions. >> where was donald trump when occupy wall street went on a rampage in seattle and smashed windows? donald trump was just getting out of grad school at the university of pennsylvania in 1968 when they went on a rampage in chicago over vietnam. >> i don't -- >> my point is he wasn't there, he had nothing to do it. >> but we're talking about right now. >> it's the same kind of folks who do this over and over and over again. they shift causes, shift the blame, so-and-so made me do it. it's always different. >> so he shouldn't say anything -- he has no responsibility for anything out of his mouth and what he says and the kind of nastiness he has generated in the course of this campaign. the same things were going on in his own rallies earlier this
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season. we saw that. >> they went on with the democratic national convention -- >> nothing like we've seen, come on now. >> we've seen this long before donald trump came on the scene. we're going to see it again. >> we haven't seen anything like that in recent times. >> bill? >> i'm not keeping track of everything, but i've been keeping pretty good track of this 2016 primary. the only place where any violence in anybody's rallies, not bernie's rallies, not martin o'mall o'malley, not john kasich, not anybody else but donald trump. so there's some connection between the heat, between his language, and between what shows up either nods or outside of these rallies that donald trump has to take responsibility for. >> let me just -- >> his own rally, he was inciting the whole illegal illegal immigrant. >> s.e. is not a supporter of donald trump, but she is a conservative, and i'm wondering
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what her impression is of this. do you think scenes like this help donald trump in some way? >> unfortunately, yes. i think he can use them to say, look, people are angry. some people are angry with me. but people are angry and thigh need a vessel. this is exactly what i'm talking about. these issues need to be solved. i think it's important that he take responsibility for his language at his own rallies, saying he wishes he could punch someone. there's a choice that leader makes. do you prey on fear and anger or help to quell it? and he has made the calculation that he will foment and stoke fear and anger. and there's a consequence to that. bernie sanders, i think, has made the same calculation. now, he's playing footsie with fear and anger, while donald trump is outright engaging with it. but i think bernie sanders is facing a similar, but to a much lesser degree, reality that some of the language he is using
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could result in a revolution, getting a little bit out of control. >> one second, hold the phone pinpoint to go to the phone, and jim acosta, our correspondent who is covering donald trump is inside the albuquerque venue and has some reporting for us about the response inside to the disturbance that we've been seeing images of for the last few minutes. jim acosta, can you hear me? 33. >> reporter: i can hear you right now. we're in the convention center where donald trump just wrapped up his rally a few moments ago. we should point ow, donald trump has already left. that part of the equation is sort of out of the way. but what i'm looking at right now is the main entrance to this convention center here in albuquerque, one of the glass doors here is smashed. there are barricades in front of these entrances. one is standing on its end, to sort of keep that glass door from being used. just a few moments ago, as this rally was clearing out, jake,
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you saw the bulk of this crowd being diverted to other exits, because they did not use this. and just outside these glass doors, there are riot police on horseback. i'm seeing six, seven riot police officers on horseback. and then on the other side of the street from the convention center, there's a good several hundred protesters gathered outside the convention center. we're not seeing any sort of violence taking place at this point. but earlier this evening, obviously things got very serious outside of this convention center. there were people trying to get past the barricades, trying to break through the front doors of this convention center, and that's why you're seeing what we're seeing now. dan simon was saying earlier, the protests that were taking place inside the rally as well as the protests taking place outside this rally are predominantly about trump's immigration rhetoric. time and again, we were seeing protesters during donald trump's
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remarks that were protesting against his rhetoric on immigration. this has, a very big issue here in new mexico. the governor of new mexico, susanna martinez is not even here tonight because she's very upset with donald trump and what he's had to say about immigration. but at this point, police are starting to get the situation under control. for a few moments, i can tell you that we were not allowed to leave this convention center. as a matter of fact, we're sort of being held up right now. in terms of this exit, the main exit doors to the convention center, they're not being used right now. they are shut off right now. >> there are a few things i want the to ask you about. jim, first of all, let me read a few messages the from the albuquerque police. one said the albuquerque police reporting that supporters threw bottles and rocks at police forces. they wanted to clarify a point that there is no confirmation, the police say, that any gunshot have said fired, contrary to
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reports, although there may be damage to a convention center window by pellet gun. and lastly, the police say that the smoke we see on the screen is not tear gas, it's just smoke. they have not deployed tear gas at this time. jim acosta? >> and i can understand why there might be various reports in terms of what's happening. as you know, you've been covering this for several months now and these outbursts flare up at donald trump rallies from time to time. i remember back in chicago earlier this year. there were deferent reports in terms of what was happening at any given moment. it's not surprising there would be additional local media reports of that sort of thing going on, but we have not been told anything confirmed, jake, that gunshots were fired, that pellets were fired, that tear gas was used at any point while police were trying to get this situation under control. i can tell you only what i'm seeing with my own eyes and that is the main entrance to this
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convention center is barricaded off. there are riot police officers on horseback outside trying to get a hold of this situation. and i can see police officers in front of the demonstrators at this point. it looks like they're trying to get people to disperse here, but largely from what i can see inside the convention center looking out, these demonstrators are largely -- they look largely peaceful at this point. it looks like it may be calming down here in albuquerque. >> mayor nutter, you're eager to say something? >> i want to come back to s.e.'s point. she's absolutely correct with regard senator sanders' language and he needs to be very mindful of how that language can incite people. secondly, this new now, direct attack against chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz, which continues then to inspire his supporters, chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz has been
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strong, she's been fair. she's trying to work with a wide open democratic party. has served not only the party and her constituents very, very well. with every respect, senator sanders has been a democrat for about five minutes. this is like someone who comes to your house, says they don't like the food, your tv is too small, and they're not particularly thrilled with what your kitchen looks like. and then walks out complaining. she's been leading the party. he just became a democrat. and now suddenly believes that he should be in charge. he should be able to run the whole show. when she came in, the party was in deficit. she's had a strong, fair process. >> yeah. >> she's worked with the various candidates, unlike, no disrespect, on the republican side, their chairman with three people running declared that one was already the nominee. she has never said to the senator to get out of the race. it's a whole lot of nonsense and she should not be used as a sacrificial --
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>> just -- >> i'm talking right now. >> i do want to -- >> a sacrificial table for people who just want to complain. >> i want to continue to talk about what we're seeing in albuquerque this evening. because mayor nutter has suggested that what bernie sanders has done, quoting s.e., is playing footsie with the kind of violence -- >> i said rhetoric, not violence, by the way. >> violent rhetoric. >> footsie with the rhetoric. >> thank you. >> let me just say, first of all, that hillary clinton, a couple of nights ago, at a speech, went out of her way to say what a positive impact bernie sanders has had on this campaign and how much she looked forward to working with him. the next day, hillary clinton and bernie sanders came together and announced members of a platform committee in california. and all of that is on the way to the party unity. and then you have, unfortunately, some clinton supporters who continue to accuse bernie sanders of hateful rhetoric and disrupting the party and attacking the democratic chair and everything. i wish all the clinton
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supporters would get behind hillary clinton in moving toward party unity, turm one. number two, i think it is just outrageous beyond belief to compare bernie sanders with donald trump. this is a guy who said he wants to wan all muslims from the united states. this is a guy who wants to deport 12 million people. this is a guy who said, i wish i could punch somebody up. that's the way we used to do, punch them up and drag them out. bernie sanders is saying, i think we've got to open the democratic party, reflect more of the middle class. i think we need to open and bring people into the party and give them a chance to participate and show what we stand for. that's very, very positive. that is not urging violence in any way whatsoever. you cannot equate the pacifist from vermont with the hate mongerer from brooklyn. >> i think it was the kind of language. i would never compare -- >> mayor nutter, are you worried -- mayor nutter, are you
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worried about seeing the kind of images we're seeing out of albuquerque this evening, anti-trump protesters, protesting the presence of donald trump in albuquerque, new mexico? are you worried about seeing those kinds of images in philadelphia at the democratic convention? >> of course i would be concerned about any of that kind of -- >> are you suggesting that bernie sanders -- >> donald trump won't be in philadelphia. that's a great thing. we do not expect under any set of circumstances to see that kind of activity in the city of philadelphia. there'll be robust debates. the city was created out of debate. we believe in debate, but you have to, you know, kind of maintain a certain sense of who you are and how you act, and so there's a line people should not go across. i think the issue with the senator most recently is, he's in a campaign with secretary clinton. now he's attacking debbie wasserman schultz. then he endorsed her opponent. this is a very unusual situation that a presidential candidate jumps in a congressional race of the chair of the party before
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the convention. because apparently, the senator has now determined that he is the last honest, true person in politics that he will now decide who the progressives are. and if you don't agree with his platform, because some of his folks have now created a brand thu congress. if you don't agree with this platform, we will take you out and primary you. >> i have to say -- >> i think the interesting thing that our david chalian has been saying is that sometimes when you ask for a revolution, you get one. and when your campaign is predicated on "the system is rigged," i think you have to be very -- whether you're donald trump and bernie sanders, and might be true -- i think you have to be very careful with where you are leading your people. in bernie's case, he's not leading them to the presidency. that's fine. he's leading them somewhere else, i'm not sure where, because he's not going to be the nominee for the democratic party and he's not going to become the party. he has to know where this car is driving. i'm not sure that he fully
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understands -- he might be responsible for it, but i'm not sure he fully understands just how angry it is making people when he is telling them, constantly, the system is rigged against you. donald trump has the same problem. the difference is, he's playing right to it. >> bill -- >> except when he wins. then everything's all right. >> please, please, i think he very much understands where he's driving the car, if you will. he wants a party that is much more open, that is back to its roots, that reflects the working class and middle class americans, and he believes, as i believe, that the democratic party today does not, it's lost -- >> where has he been? >> that he's lost his way. but bernie is in no way -- i keep coming back to this. you know, inciting violence. he just wants to get them involved in politics. that's why 86% of young people support him. they're not out there throwing rocks. they're not out there burning buildings. they're involved in the political process. they're voting. this is good for the party. >> let me bring some of the people in this conversation.
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john? >> i think we started this question a long time ago. what does bernie want. i don't think he knows. if you talk to people in his campaign, you sometimes get con flicking accounts of where they're headed. but it was on sunday where he said this about debbie wasserman schultz's opponent. it's serious for a front-runner to get involved with that. so if you're a democrat, your question is, we just went through this in 2010 and 2014. this is a big cause of the republican civil war, the tea party. where you have insurgents saying, challenge establish politicians in the primaries. is this a one-off, bernie has grievances with chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz, or is he telling his supporters, go out and find other established democrats you don't like and let's have a tea party in the democratic party. >> a latte party, if you will. >> a latte party. and i think a fear for some democrats i talk to is this sense among some sanders supporters the that is currently based on some of sanders'
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arguments himselves, that somehow, if and when hillary clinton wins the nomination, that in some ways, it's the result of a rigged system. and in that way, it's sort of illegitimate. i think that sort of framing will be much harder to sort of reverse for some of these sanders supporters. >> this is the same system that elected barack obama. >> i've been ignoring this poor table. mark? >> where to start? where to start? let's start with this first. bernie sanders, i spent a lot of time talking to both of these campaigns, as many of us do. bernie sanders has felt aggrieved from the dnc, mayor, he has. he has felt aggrieved from the dnc, whether it's right or wrong, from day one. >> based on what? he feels that the dnc didn't protect himself in iowa when a race was called while they were in the air from iowa to new hampshire. that's one. he feels that way. to bill's point, we haven't seen
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violence yet from the bernie sanders folks. they're angry, we call it a revolution. it's a nice political word we use, but they're not throwing bottles and throwing rocks. donald trump should be responsible for the violence he incites among his supporters. right now what we're seeing are not his supporters and they're throwing rocks and attack police officers who are only trying to keep the peace. that, while it may be democracy, it is messy democracy and it's actually wrong democracy, quite frankly. and anyone who says anything else is just bluster at this point. i think we have to look at what's going on out there and wondering what those folks are hoping to accomplish, because all they're accomplishing right now is hurting police officers on the street. >> i have to go to wolf blitzer right now. mr. blitzer? >> no great surprise, donald trump has won the washington state republican primary. didn't have any opposition. got almost 80% of the vote. ted cruz and john kasich, each about 10%. their names were still on the
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ballot. once again, no surprise. he's getting closer and closer to getting that official number 1,237. that's the number he needs to get the nomination. he's well on the way, almost there right now. we'll update you on that and update you on what's going on, on the streets of albuquerque. these are live pictures, anti-trump protesters there outside the convention hall where he just wrapped up. it's true what they say. technology moves faster than ever.
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let's go back to the streets of albuquerque, new mexico, outside the convention hall. jim acosta is there. what's the latest? we saw those anti-donald trump protesters on the streets, grabbing barricades, throwing rocks, what's the latest? >> reporter: it looks like the albuquerque police department is starting to get a handle on this situation. in the last several minutes, i'm seeing dozens of police officers behind me. they have moved those bike racks or barricades up against the crowd, soefrt of pushing them ay from the convention center. and now those protesters, they're down to 50 to 100, maybe even less than that right now. so nothing like what we saw earlier tonight, where you saw people possibly hurling rocks, breaking through the barricades, going up against the glass doors of this convention center. i'm standing next to a couple of people who witnessed some of this early this evening. you said you saw a car burning or saw some fires being lit out
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here? >> fires out there with the donald trump signs. >> reporter: they were lighting donald trump signs on fire? >> and dropping them all over the road. he had to put several tires out and stomp on them. >> reporter: what happened, sir, you saw this happening and jumped in to put out the fires? >> that's what i did. i jumped this to put them out. and they were screaming on sen 't senties and being obnoxious. did it feel like things were getting out of control? this doesn't happen very much in albuquerque? >> no, this happens all the time in albuquerque. albuquerquians love to protest. >> reporter: but what was it like when you walked out? >> we were confronted by six people in masks asking us if we were donald trump supporters. >> they called us racists and bigots and all kinds of other stuff. >> as you can see there, wolf, there are people outside this convention, outside this rally when all of this was taking place. there are several witnesses. it's very likely the police will
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be talking to those witnesses and trying to gather exactly what happened, who started this and so forth. but it seems like things are starting to calm down as police get a handle on the situation outside the convention center. >> we're showing our viewers some live pictures from the streets. still protesters on the streets, just a few moments ago, we saw a fight erupt. you can see protests there in the middle of the street s blocking traffic. i assume at some point, the police will go to that area and remove those protesters from the middle of the street? >> reporter: that's right, wolf. they will not be allowed to stay out, indefinitely. at some point or another, they'll want this to come to an end. as i said, these police officers behind me, they're in the dozens, i would say, behind me at this point.
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they have moved these barricades a good 50 yards away from the front entrance of the convention center. but as you said, our helicopter vantage point of what's happening in other parts of downtown albuquerque, i can hear it. it's within earshot of where i'm stand right now. you hear other pockets of potential disturbances that are being taken care of right now. it's certainly something that is not just contained to this area right here. there are other pockets of this happening around downtown. >> looks like it's escalating in different part of albuquerque, than where you are. we're showing our viewers some live pictures going on right now. >> reporter: it may be as they're moving them away, it's flaring up in other places. >> jim acosta, stand by. dan simon is also on the scene at a different location outside of the convention hall. where are you, dan?
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i guess we lost that convention with dan simon. we'll get back to dan simon. how does this play out politically? these are anti-donald trump protesters outside the convention hall in albuquerque, where he just wrapped up. a speech, a rally, a lot of people inside that were very, very supportive of him. >> no question about it and look, new mexico is a border state. there are al of people in and around that state that support donald trump. but albuquerque itself, you heard the woman talking to jim acosta saying, no, no, no, people in albuquerque like to protest all the time. all seriousness, it's not necessarily fertile territory for donald trump. >> hold on for a minute. where are you, dan? >> reporter: hey, wolf, i'm about a block away from the main
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convention center. >> all right. stand by, dan simon. i want to -- we'll get back to you. we're showing our viewers these live pictures. you were finishing your thought? >> i was just going to talk to david about the fact that albuquerque is not necessarily fertile political ground. for donald trump. >> no doubt about that. barack obama won it by 17 points in 2012 against mitt romney. but you can see in those pictures, people were waving some mexican flags in that picture. there's no doubt that the border state factor is real and important there to bring up. i think there's something else that's really interesting going on when you think about what we're seeing tonight, what we saw back in march in chicago. donald trump, and new mexico has an upcoming primary in a couple of months and he's campaigning through the states. but he's trying to alter and flip the electoral map.
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and he's been unafraid to go into heavily democratic areas and campaign there and this is no not a place that a republican nominee is likely to spend a lot of time in a traditional sense if you're looking at an electoral map. and yet donald trump is there and clearly going to make a statement there. with that becomes this potential challenge of having an active protest community around you if you are going to places that are traditionally democratic strongholds and not likely where a ton of your supporters are. you'll get the supporters inside the arena, but you're also going to invite this very robust presence from protesters. >> it's true. especially, having, to many donald trump rallies, a big part of the goal from the trump campaign has been and continues to be the big rally. to fill the arenas and you do that, for the most part, in big population centers. you go where the people are.
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so you get the good with the bad, if you're somebody as divisive as donald trump. but there's no question. look, i've spent time with republican candidates in new mexico and sometimes we went to places like albuquerque, but most of the time went to places where they probably had a better shot at getting their voters out. and albuquerque isn't one of them. whatever his reasons for going there, whether it is to have the big rally or not, it is something that you don't normally see from republicans. >> it is one of two states that george w. bush flipped from blue to red, from his 2000 election to his 2004 election. it has been a place where a george w. bush style republican was able to make it competitive. the question is, is donald trump going to be able to make a place like new mexico, which has such a heavy hispanic population. >> and a growing one. >> a truly competitive place. it will actually be, we'll see
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if he puts real resources in there, with as the six months ahead go. tonight is an indication, he's not afraid to show up there. i just think he has to be prepared for this kind of scene, to repeat itself in cities and states like you said, big population centers, over and over and over again, throughout this campaign. >> it's interesting that the governor of new mexico, susanna martinez, a republican, was not there at the event tonight. the primary, two weeks from today in new mexico, same day as the california primary. she issued a statement saying she had other pressing business to engage in, right? >> yeah, right, that's like, pressing f4 on your computer, where you have to say, okay, this is my excuse for the day. she wasn't there because she didn't want to be there. and she didn't want to be there for lots of reasons and she voiced some of her concerns about the trump candidacy earlier before he was the only -- he was the last man standing and made clear she doesn't want to be anybody's
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running mate, especially when that person is just donald trump. but i think it is telling about the strides he still has to make in a very large way with the latino community, which is obviously not going to be easy. he likes to say he is, you know, doing so well among hispanics and so on and so forth, but, you know, you can't take one protest and make a lot of conclusions about it, but this is an illustration of the challenges he's going to have. >> and wolf brings up susanna martinez. remember, it's not that long ago, chris christie's re-election in 2013 in new jersey, he brought one out of state surrogate with a national profile to come and campaign for him in new jersey. susanna martinez. that was the one, because chris christie was at the time running as a republican, who was all about trying to expand the appeal to the hispanic community. and that's only a few years ago.
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and today susanna martinez doesn't want to appear with the presumptive republican nominee, having been somebody who the party had courted for quite some time and was seen as a rising star. >> certainly she is a rising star on the republican party. you wanted to make one final point. >> and talking about trying to change the tone and tenor and the hispanic vote, which the republican party has been trying to do since george w. bush did so well, got 44% of that vote, but when donald trump was here in washington a couple of weeks ago, meeting with republican leaders is, john cornyn, senator from texas, said point blank to him, i won the majority of the hispanic vote, as a republican in texas who's very outspoken against illegal immigration. and there's a way to do it, to have a different kind of conversation. let me help you. the question is -- >> just imagine the photo op, david and dana, if susanna martinez had been inside, donald
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trump tonight on that stage, raising their hands together. that would have been a dramatic moment in his effort to unite, to unify the republican party. these are live pictures we're showing our viewers the streets of albuquerque right now. not far away from that convention center where donald trump just wrapped up his speech. these are anti-donald trump protesters. we'll continue our extensive coverage right after this. show me movies with romance.
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x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. welcome back to cnn's election coverage. there are scenes of demonstration and some chaos in downtown albuquerque this evening, where donald trump spoke earlier and a number of anti-trump protesters gathered to throw rocks and other objects at police. let's go to jim acosta who is in the vicinity of the chaos. jim, what is going on exactly right now? >> reporter: jake, we're standing out in front of the convention center where donald trump wrapped up that rally about an hour or so ago. and it is basically status quo. you have a number of albuquerque
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police officers, some in riot gear, with barricades in front of these protesters. some of the protesters are holding their hands up in sort of that hands up, don't shoot pose, periodically. you do see some birned trump signs that were lit on fire when things were really sort of getting out of control early this evening. some fire extinguishers scattered around in the road in front of the convention center, just to give you a sign of how they were putting out small fires here and there, outside this convention center. but it looks like in terms of where there was that little bit of chaos, outside this convention center, while the donald trump rally was going on, it appears that has been taken care of. that albuquerque police have that under control, but there are still protesters and demonstrators stationed in front of this convention center with their signs up and with their messages, basically saying to donald trump, your message on immigration is not welcome here. by and large, every protester
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we've come across during this rally inside the convention center and outside the convention center, they have had basically nothing but negative things to say about donald trump's immigration rhetoric. that has been the hallmark of what happened here in albuquerque, no question about it. and, you know, covering these elections every four years, jake, as you know, this is not supposed to be what our democracy is all about. we're not supposed to see officers in riot gear and gas masks and protesters squaring off against each other outside political rallies. that's what we have in albuquerque tonight. >> i want to roll some tape from a few minutes ago. there we see some protesters walking on and jumping on police car cars some applauding there and running down the street, as the police presumably started pursuing them for that act. and there goes the rest of that
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tape. as you see on the screen, dozens of anti-trump protesters, some of them, though, by no means, most of them, acting in a violent way. police have come to the scene and seem to be dispersing the crowd, using, you know, batons, police cars, police forces, protesters running away, many of them waving mexican flags. let's talk about some of the images we're seeing here. i also want to talk, if i can, about something donald trump said earlier today. dan simon is out there. hold on one second. dan simon, you're outside there on the scene. what are you seeing? what's going on? >> reporter: you can see that police are trying to push these protesters back. you can see police in full riot gear, right in front of several
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of these protesters, also, police on horseback as you said a moment ago, some of them are on really really a small number of at this point, but they are creating a lot of trouble at the moment. police throughout the evening have showed remarkable restraint as protesters have thrown rocks and bottles at police officers and they want these folks to go home, but you have a number of people out here. this is pretty surprising, given what we saw earlier today, when everything was completely peaceful on the streets of albuquerque right now, you have, i would say, a couple hundred people out here on the street, mainly young people, just observing what's happening and as a few of them try to taunt the police. that's basically what's going on at the moment. police doing whatever they can to try to encourage people to go
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home. but these people seem to want to stay put, jake. >> dan simon on the streets of albuquerque for us. i want to talk about something that donald trump said at his rally at the convention center in albuquerque earlier this evening. something that was interesting. he took a few shots at the governor of new mexico, which wouldn't necessarily be such a surprise if it were not for the fact that the governor of new mexico, is a republican. and the fact that he took some shots at her, although he has not endorsed him and has not been supportive of mr. trump, certainly caught our attention. let's play that tape. >> since 2000, the number of people on food stamps in new mexico has tripled. we have to get your governor to get going. she's got to do a better job, okay? your governor has got to do a better job. she's not doing the job. hey! maybe i'll run for governor of new mexico! i'll get this place going.
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we've got to get her moving. okay, let's go, governor. >> that's some tough stuff for a man who is, at this point, supposed to be uniting tea party around him. >> yeah, i was going to say, this is astonishing, but nothing with donald trump is astoni astonishing. this is a republican governor, one of the future leading lights of the party. she's got into some trouble recently with some personal problems in new mexico, but she made one comment -- she's not onboard the trump train. she said she didn't want to go to the rally because she's busy. her state has the highest percentage of hispanics in the country. new mexico is 47% hispanic. donald trump wants to kick out of the country 11 million undocumented immigrants. imagine what that would do in new mexico. there's quite a few undocumented immigrants there. she's not on board with his policies on immigration and the way he's talked about hispanics in this country and she's basically one of the few remaining republicans who's in
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this sort of never-trump camp. i don't think he like that. and he hit back at her. he could have gone there and ignored it, but he hit her really hard. >> it wasn't a coincidence. and we should point out maybe not this year, but in past year, susanna martinez, her name has been bandied about as a possible vice presidential nominee. you can debate whether or not if it were a different presidential nominee, she would still be on that list given some of the problems we've alluded to. but it's remarkable for donald trump to swoop into a stays, that has in the past been a battleground state, and berate the sitting republican governor. >> and let's do a fact check on you, jake. because had susanna martinez come out and said, i'm for donald trump, she would have been the best governor ever, ever, ever tonight during his peach and she would be at the top of his list and he would vocally be saying he's openly
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vetting her, but he has been very clear, if you are not his ally, he is your enemy. and if you punch him once, he is going to try to punch you and kick you and knock your teeth out. >> and i think it begs the question. if you think of somebody like susanna martinez, republican governor, she was a featured speaker at the rnc until -- >> former democrat. >> gave a speech about why she was a republican and talked about republican party values. and that's what you need if you are the nominee of a party. you can't just have all white guys and all white women on stage. you need a party that's diverse. i think the question remains as to whether or not trump will be able to get those kind of people out there. >> and isn't she the sitting chairwoman of the republican governors association? >> he has problems with them, she's with them. >> to be fair, it's not like she is uniting around donald trump.
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bernie sanders wrapped up his speech in san bernardino, california, just a little while ago. california has its primary two weeks from today on june 7th and he minced no words talking about donald trump. >> let me begin by telling you that donald trump will not become president of the united states. we defeat him by, in some cases, double digits, and by far greater numbers than does secretary clinton. so if the democratic party wants a candidate who is going to defeat trump and defeat him bad, we are that campaign ##. trump thinks it is a good idea
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to try to divide us up. we know what makes us great is bringing us together. this kp this campaign is going to win here in california. for a number of reasons. number one, we are going to do something unprecedented in the political history of california. we are going all over this state. this is our third rally today! and by the time we're finished, by the time we're finished, our grassroots campaign will be spoken to over 200,000
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californians. we will win because we have the energy, we have the enthusiasm, and because people know that given the crisis we face, it is too late for establishment politics or establishment economic economics. >> all right. so that's senator bernie sanders speaking just minutes ago. i want to go over to danna and david. he's making it clear, he's not going anywhere until at least after california, maybe a week later, the district of columbia. >> and he also, as you heard there, is going after donald trump very hard, even as donald trump tonight continued to try to appeal to the bernie sanders supporters, assuming that hillary clinton gets the nomination, come to me, don't go to her.
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>> and you've seen the polls. bernie sanders is right, he does perform better against donald trump in these hypothetical matchups than does hillary clint clinton. the other thing we saw in "the washington post"/abc news poll this week, 20% of sanders supporters say they'll vote for trump in a trump/clinton matchup. that number needs to come down. >> all right, guys, one more break. more coverage of the protests in albuquerque, new mexico. you're looking at pictures right now. we'll be right back. i'm getting dark chocolate and a hint of butterscotch. how about you? i taste - whaaaaaaaaaow. wha wha na na na na na na da ba da ba da ba daw! it's good. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast.
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this is cnn breaking news. this is the scene right now in downtown albuquerque where police are trying to clear protesters,, anti-donald trump protesters from outside a trump rally which ended about an hour or so ago. protesters have thrown rocks and botdles. a door was smashed. a number of protesters have in fact been removed from inside the donald trump rally as well. >> well yeah, that is the scene, live pictureses there, young people as we're told still out there on the street. police trying to clear them out, but they are still out there. some waving mexican flags as you can see. let's get the very latest on the situation there in aler


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