jason carroll joining us with more on the protests. >> reporter: good morning. before much of the unrest trump said during his speech last night he was doing great with hispanics, going on to say he was going to win them over. the reality is, he's not doing well with hispanics, many upset about the comments he made calling them rapists and drug dealers, and they took their anger to the streets. overnight, police in riot gear blasting pepper spray. >> [ bleep ] push her [ bleep ] to the ground! >> reporter: and using smoke grenades to disburse ain't donald trump protestors outside his rally in albuquerque, new mexico. >> start moving! >> reporter: hours after the presumptive gop's nominee speech. >> get back! >> reporter: dozens of protestors stomping on police cars. and throwing rocks and bottles at police, injury several officers.
earlier during trump's speech at the city the convention center -- protestors breaking through the metal barriers surrounding the venue. some making their way inside. only to be dragged out by security. the personal attacks on hillary clinton began even before trump took the stage. >> i don't know who to choose. trump or hillary. even bill clinton chose other women. so you should, too! >> reporter: once onstage, trump going personal opting to make fun of clinton's voice. >> i will never say this, but she screams. it drives me crazy. >> reporter: and using some of his harshest language yet against clinton. >> i see this low life, she puts on an air. >> reporter: trump angry clinton is painting him as a greedy billionaire. this based on comments he made back in 2006 when he said he hodged to profit when the housing market collapsed. >> they've got some clip of me from many years ago where i'm saying, yeah, if did goes down i'm going to buy. i'm a businessman.
that's what i'm supposed to do. >> reporter: clinton staying above the fray while campaigning in california. >> we have a bully pulpit in the white house, but that doesn't mean we want a bully in the white house. >> reporter: trump also criticizing mexico's republican governor susana martinez, also his tank. did that during his rally. martinez has not endorsed trump saying she was too busy to attend his rally. trump said she needed to do a better job improving conditions in her state. trump's next stop, anaheim, california where a number of people are already preparing for more protests. chris? alisyn? >> jason carroll, insightful reporting. now time to discuss. bring in cnn political analyst and host of the gordon graham show podcast, david gregory. and senior editor for "the daily beast" jackie kucinich and contributor for "the daily
caller matt lewis. strategically showing up on the set today meaning you get more attention. so when you see what's going on last night what is your read on the significance to the candidacy? >> there's so much going on. talk about him attacking susana martinez. i thought there was an outside chance he might pick her as his running mate. this is a female latina, governor of new mexico. mexican-american. if donald trump wants to mend fences with the hispanic community, with women, maybe give cover to attack hilary, she might have been a good selection and here he is going into a state, attacking a sitting republican governor. >> because she didn't want to go to the rally. telegraphed basically she didn't want to be connected. >> think of the message this sends. if you are senator rob portman in ohio or senator pat toomey in
pennsylvania, you better get in line. because if dnt coonald trump coo your town and october, that could basically sway an election. >> what does that do, jackie? if he's in a fight with susana martinez, what does that do? >> i don't know. it might backfire, because in a lot of these states, some of these politicians are beloved, actually, and when you're someone like a rob portman, if donald trump praise you you're getting attacked on the left and fund-raising ads sent out against you. so i don't know what the right thing to do is here, but certainly striking fear in the heart of republicans who don't show up and stand behind you at your rally, i just don't know what that that's going to work. >> what's worse, david -- having protestors knocking down the barriers, or having the man who introduced trump say, even
hillary's husband chose other women. >> i think that was just a totally inappropriate comment. >> he did not correct it once he got up there as far as i understand. >> yeah, i know. look, donald trump has a decision to make. does he want to take this kind of road and try to become personally ugly with hillary clinton and have his supporters do the same and kind of carry on that campaign? and think that with that he's going to ease the anxieties that voters feel about his temperament, his kwqualificatio, how risky he is as a presidential choice? and how risky his foreign policy? either this attack or go to other issues. he needs to recognize even with the republican majority he is not a majority candidate. he may have 50% of the republican electorate, if he wants to get beyond that he has
to deal with other issues, be more strategic and startinged in swing states rather than, as you talked about, going in, trashing a republican governor in probably a more democratic state, but it has been a swing state in the past, new mexico. so he's not showing he's making much of a pivot to the general election nap said, i don't think that these protests help the democrats' cause. i think the more of a law and order problem there appears to be at these trump rallies, i think that only plays to his strength. >> matt, ask you about the protest, quickly. these are anti-trump protestors. is there anything donald trump can do to quell some of the anger? >> well, i mean, as david was suggesting, donald trump may not want to strategically quell them? he may benefit from stoking them, even. but i do think whether it's bernie sanders, nevada or donald trump last night, new mexico. i think it's incumbent upon leaders, as bernie sanders
suggesting, politics is messy, but let's not condone or encourage any sort of violence or unrest, but, you know, this is -- in some ways this is like a throwback to the nixon era almost, and donald trump could be a richard nixon. >> some of those protests, really, no matter where they crop up, there is an element of artifice there. there are these groups that go to each of these sites. we even saw them when we were in ferguson and baltimore. >> like professional agitators, you mean? >> i don't know if that's the right term, because i don't know what professional means in this context. >> right, but they end up showing up and people are so on edge that it's easy to take them over the edge. a little element, but no question what trump is seeing is a little earned, jackie, right? if that is a big latino population and they're referring to what he did before, but to david's point, i don't think it hurts him. i think had helps him. the bigger question for him is in terms of what tactics he's going to take against hilly that
that -- hillary had is an answer to the problems versus just pointing out the problems. how's the balance there? >> i don't know there is a balance. donald trump hasn't really focused. as we said earlier, he's not really focused on a general election target yet. he still seems to be the donald trump we saw all of these months through the primaries. to your point about the protests. yeah. when there are irrational, chaotic-looking scenes, sure, that's not attracting people on the fence. that said, when you use incendiary rhetoric you get incendiary reactions. some of the things he's said have been very offensive to people and they're going to speak out. >> talk about the conversation in the past few days. donald trump invoked the, he calls it, mystery, surrounding vince foster, who was deputy counselality the white house during bill clinton's time, about the death of vince foster.
that has been investigated time and again by police, by ken starr, by cnn. it was a suicide, but donald trump acts as if it's an open question. so what now? should the media go back and sort of remind voters about this and all the details, try to put it to rest, or there are con speary theorists out there and donald trump has always sort of been sympathetic to those? >> look, the people who are open to the relitigation of vince foster's death are not going to vote for hillary clinton anyway. so donald trump is speaking to conspiracy-minded people who are not based in reality on some of these stories anyhow and maybe part of his coalition. again, if you're donald trump at this point, you want to deal with a couple of things. you have a message that's about the future of country, and are you going to emphasize that? no question, she's hitting him on his past, he's going to hit her on her part and the messiness within clintons to reach younger, more persuade
werable voters, but he still has a series of issues to deal with that are personal characteristics. whether people trust him, whether he's everything he says he is as a businessman, whether he can run our foreign policy and keep america secure. he's been unconventionally successful so far and he's unconventional. this is, what you're seeing from hillary clinton she's starting to jab him in the eye on business background, elizabeth warren, other surrogates driving this message home. we want to keep focus, to see what resonance this has versus his using instagram and a broader media. >> becomes a question of temperament for him, also. how does he deal with attacks? in the primaries it worked well. the counterpuncher, you came at me so i'm coming at you. to a lot that could read at poor temperament if you're going to
take every provocation so seriously, what will happen when you're president? >> of all the things david gregory just raised, character, the same could be said about hillary clinton. what voters are trying to figure out about her. >> her defense, an unfortunate defense is vetting. talking about vince foster, why so much confidence saying i don't think it's there. it's been looked at five ways. whether all the gates, whatever you want to look at or bill clinton's past, this has been played out not just by us but special prosecution, commissions and committees. trump's risk is a lot of the stink on him that maybe we've heard about being here in new york has never been fully vetted does not have a special prosecutor behind it, a congress' committee behind it. does he really want to open up those chapters of his own life? we'll see? >> panel. thank you. stick around. first over to ana. >> talk about the democrats. hillary clinton campaigning hard in california hoping to avoid a primary defeat there in two weeks which would be
embarrassing squeaked out a win in kentucky last week and now bernie sanders is calling for a canvassing of the results there. all this as some in the democratic party saying their chairwoman is too toxic and may have to go. senior washington correspondent joe johns joins us with more on this. joe? >> reporter: good morning, ana. the head of the democratic party again coming into focus after bernie sanders went after her over the weekend in the middle of a pitched campaign battle for california. the biggest prize of the primary season. there's no indication any democratic senators have launched a formal effort to get rid of debbie wasserman schultz, but the sanders' campaign can claim credit this morning for starting a conversation about it. on capitol hill, democratic senators discussing removing debbie wasserman schultz as the head of the party. one source saying many feel it would be a good idea. the source telling cnn there's fears she's become "too toxic in
the ongoing democratic civil war." the feud between the dnc chair and the sanders campaign reaching a fever pitch after kay koss chaos erupted. >> throwing shade on the sanders campaign since the very beginning. >> reporter: supporting hillary clinton before the primaries even began, something she vehemently denied. >> san bernardino, thank you! >> reporter: sanders fighting on hoping to defeat clinton in the upcoming delegate-rich primary in california. secretary clinton less than 100 delegates away from clinching the nomination, looking towards the general election. >> i need your help in this upcoming primary, because we want to finish strong. >> reporter: and pledging to stop trump. >> why on earth would we elect somebody president who actually rooted for the collapse of the mortgage market? >> reporter: but sanders
believes he would be the best challenger against the presumptive republican nominee. >> if we get the democrat innomination, donald trump is toast. >> reporter: and in the fight to gain traction, the sanders' campaign calling into question the results of last week's kentucky primary. in a statement the campaign says it's "requesting a full and complete recanvas of every one of the voting machines and absentee ballots." sanders lost to clinton by a razor-thin margin of roughly 1,900 votes. a clinton aide accusing him of raising more money for his campaign the battle for the california primary is clearly picking up. bernie sanders added stops to his campaign schedule there. the hillary clinton campaign is expected to continue its attacks on donald trump today for his comments and business focus around the time the housing bubble burst. alisyn? >> okay, joe. thanks so much for that preview. well, the 2004 sexual assault case against bill cosby
will go to trial. a pennsylvania judge ordering there is enough evidence for him to face a jury on criminal charges. cnn jean casarez is live in norristown, pennsylvania with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. bill cosby's team really wanted to get these charges dismissed yesterday at one point yelling at the judge saying an american should not sit in a courtroom to have to go through this, but in the end the judge ruled, this case is proceeding to trial. a judge ruling there is enough evidence for bill cosby to stand trial for the alleged sex calle assault of a former several university employee in 2004. >> we only have to show that a crime's committed and the defendant's connected to the crime. it's a preliminary hearing. hearsay is admissible and we're just over the next hurdle in this. >> reporter: a police detective reading in court for the first time statements the accuser andrea constand made to police in 2005.
in them she says cosby encouraged her to drink wine and take blue pills at his pennsylvania home. shortly after, she says her vision blurred. her legs were rubbery. she felt dizzy, frozen, scared and unable to speak. but was aware of cosby putting his hands on her breasts and down her pants. in cosby's only statement to police he admits to touching and kissing her and giving constand benadryl to help her relax but maintains the encounter was consensual. >> the point, it was intoxicating to her and she was unable to consent. >> reporter: the defense attacking constand's credibility saying parts of her statements were crossed out or redapted. >> presented an 11-year-old statement riddled with corrections and inconsistencies. >> reporter: they point to one incident at a casino where cosby was performing. he invited constand back to his whom. she says she initially laid down on the bed with cosby, their legs touching but later crossed
that out saying the two were relaxed, close to one another. now, the big, looming question, will other accusers of bill cosby be allowed to testify at his trial? this is going to be a huge pretrial issue. there will probably be a big hearing in the courthouse behind me. the defense will say it is prejudicial to bill cosby. he's not on trial for these other women, but the prosecution will say it is probative. not to determine the guilt or innocence of these other women, but to show that bill cosby committed prior bad ax and that the intent was to sexually assault andrea constand. >> comes down to the weights of relevance versus the weight of prejudice. the judge will decide. thanks for keeping us on the loop in that one. so are we seeing another side of the sanders' effect on the party, just days after br bernie sanders calmed out debbie wasserman schultz accusing her of favoring hillary clinton.
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okay. sources tell cnn that leading democrats are considering whether debbie wasserman schultz should be removed as dnc chair, saying she may have become too toxic after exchanging some strong words with bernie sanders. >> toxic isn't enough. only in politics is toxic not the bar. >> that's right. we'll have britney spears weigh in on that later. let's discuss with our panel, david gregory, jackie kucinich and matt lewis. matt, can she be removed? is this the right cause if she's exchanged strong words with bernie sanders? >> it's actually part of a larger narrative that bernie sanders is saying the game is rigged. he's calling for a recanvassing in kentucky. that's a state where you had a hillary clinton supporter who called the election before the
a.p. there is sort of a pattern where at least the appearance that the game is rigged against bernie sanders, and going into a convention where it's going to be contentious, chaotic, messy, as bernie sanders said, if you wanted to quell that chaos, maybe having a different chairperson would be a good idea. >> but this ultimately is, if hillary clinton is the nominee, it is her decision, and debbie wasserman schultz has been a hillary clinton loyalist from the very beginning, and she is a great fund-raiser. she has a lot going for her. >> but not going anywhere? >> it's up to hillary clinton and her campaign and right now hillary clinton is saying it would be too messy. to use that word. >> she's not going to go down quietly. will not go into that, good night. she signaled before if anybody tries to oust her from her perch she will go on the -- >> it's happened before. she's a very controversial figure and there are behind st. scenes kind of -- >> back-stabbing.
>> coups. >> don't call them coups because you can't take power from a chair. it valley a top-down organization. the president when in power. when not in power, it's a little different. it's your call. >> yes. >> so the idea of like, an insurgency is a little misleading and, also, the feeling, david gregory is she's not the root of the problem in the party. it's the disconnect in the democrat population of what they want out of a nominee. >> well, yeah, but i do think this is overblown. i mean, yes, we keep saying, the rules in the parties, in both parties, favors the insider. it is not meant to elevate the unconventional outside candidate. that's true in the republican side, and it's probably truer on the democratic side with the super delegates. but the answer to this is to win. and bernie sanders is not going to win. >> but it sounds bad, david. you describe it benignly there, but still sounds bad. >> i disagree.
>> sounds like these parties are undemocratic. >> right. because they are designed, the rules are sdirn eddesigned in a making it very difficult for someone who is an unconventional candidate to break through. that's just the fact of the matter. the reality is this year you have unconventional candidates who have broken through. >> right. >> look, hillary clinton had a lot of control over the democratic party back in 2008, but she didn't win, because barack obama was stronger, won more pledged delegates, had a different kind of organization to do that across the country. so, look, bernie sanders, this is messy. part of the angst about debbie wasserman schultz, it's been going on a long time, don't forget, bernie sanders supporters, acting the way they did out in las vegas was not appropriate. he's got to be able to own that, and the other piece of it, all of these people representing him, disproportionate amount on the platform committee, he'll have a big role in the convention. there is certainly discord within the democratic party. it's not as big as we've seen
and are seeing on the republican side, and there are some real challenges for hillary clinton to bring over bernie sanders supporters. all of that is true, even if the other truth is she's still winning both on pledged delegates and on the super delegates. >> matt, talk about what happened a as d.c. gala. elizabeth warren, the speaker, picked occupy the thread that hillary clinton had talked about the past couple of days nap is that donald trump had been rooting in one statement for housing collapse because then he could gobble up property more cheaply. and elizabeth warren basically said who does that? who roots for people to lose their houses? that's sort of anti-america is what she suggested. is elizabeth warren and hillary clinton coordinating their messages or is elizabeth warren just doing this sort of freelance on her own? >> i think they clearically are. not just elizabeth warren and hillary clinton it's all. coordinating a message. that's what it's going to take.
number one, you need a good message. it's unclear to me whether or not this works because donald trump just says, look, i was a businessman. >> sure did. >> but -- >> he owns it. totally. >> but even if you settle on a good message, then you can't just throw it out once. it has to be a consistent drum beat, and we're going to test now. they're going to test whether or not that actually resonates. >> well, jackie, talk about what her potency is, elizabeth warren. what does she off jer the closest thing to sanders that clinton has. many people thought that elizabeth warren should have carried the message that bernie sanders is carrying as a nominee. and she has another thing going with trump. trump calling her the pocahontas stuff sets her up, how about what he said about me? may be more powerful than the stuff he did in 2006. that does not make him unique. >> getting under his skin. she bothers him, and when you're talking about donald trump you
kind of want to get him off kilter. goes to temperament. he hasn't been able to get a wrap on when people get under his skin and really irritate him. he tends to go off, and elizabeth warning has been successful in setting him off. >> you have to mock him. it if i were advising hillary clinton i would say hire comedians. hollywood loves liberals. bring in people who it kel you -- barack obama does a very good job of this. >> delivery is key. >> marco rubio tried to do this, and there was something there. >> but you can't mock the motivation of those who support him. that's the mistake that people make. >> true. >> you see trump, you may want to see him as cartoonist. gregory, button it up for us. you've made the point many times. if you mock him one thing. if you mock why people are behind him, that's another. >> i aindustry with that, but i think you can keep it trained on him. elizabeth warren is getting under his skin, in part not only because she can go toe to toe
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prosecutors and defense attorneys for bill cosby facing new challenges now that a pennsylvania judge ordered cosby to stand trial on criminal sexual assault charges. saying the comedian assaulted andrea constand in 2004. this is the first case to go to trial. joining us now our cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney and senior trial counsel. gentlemen, great to have you. each will take a side. danny, what are the challenges for bill cosby's team here moving forward? >> going forward, the strategy is, not only at trial, plan to tear apart the witness, the complaining witness, on the
stand, confronted with her inconsistencies that we got a preview of at this preliminary hearing. >> meaning she crossed things out in her first statement? given one, on the bed together, lying near each other then crossed those out. >> remember, thoughts basically unknown. an idea of inconsistencies. the fact she crossed them out. we learned the police alternating typing the statement. in other words, took turns typing and listening. then the other one typed and listen. >> why is that a problem? >> it's strange, because i haven't heard of it, and part two, one was typing, one living and one of the officers left as the statement was being corrected by constand. so in the world of -- in the world of taking a statement, paul can tell you this, typically not recorded, audio, video, otherwise. in that instance, if you can show that the system was questionable for taking the statement, it may cast doubt on that statement, but there have been other statements that constand's gave that i think the
defense can exploit, but far and away, make no mistake about it, the biggest danger to the defense is what's called prior bad acts under rule 404b. >> we'll get into that. worpt other women can come up and be part of this case. paul, the challenges for the prosecution? >> i think bill cosby is toast after this hearing, because what it demonstrated, rather graphically, is that the prosecution has a very strong case here. first of all, they're going to, cosby walk sboos into court wit black cloud with 50 women who made charges against him. it's not admissible in court. >> are you sure it's not? how do we know the other accusers can't -- >> we're not talking about 50. danny would say, 50 women won't be able to come in against him. >> sure. >> however, you might be able to get four or five and use this evidence, signature crime evidence to say, you know something? when he uses drugs of this kind, it's a pattern for him. this is how he gets women into
bed. this is how he sexually abuses him. he drugs them, gives them alcohol and when they're paralyzed he attacks them and they're going to say, that's exactly what was done in this case, but i think finally the most important thing and why prosecution is probably going to win the case, he corroborates her testimony, because he admits he gave her drugs. he admits -- >> benadryl, admits he did it to relax her. >> exactly. for what? >> as we know, dozens of other accusers and none of those have gone to trial. will their voices be heard in this case? >> the prosecution will file a motion in this case, surely, to try and admit as many of these accusers as they can and it raises sort of a justice issue. if the prosecution's case in chief has plenty of inconsistencies and is weak, then is it fair in our system you have a weak prosecution case that a bolstered by evidence of other acts that come in and paul's exactly right.
the law presumes these other accusers do not come into evidence, but it's the numbers game. if you have 50 accusers, and 3 or 4 come in, that's 3 or 4 people who will come in and testify that this person on this day did something so similar, and you have to ask, doesn't that prejudice the jury? doesn't that -- is that evidence always prejudicial? our law says, not always. >> hmm. paul, even if they don't come into the courtroom, we've heard of them. they've been in the media for the past two years. so what are the challenges there? as this case continues? >> an enormous challenge in picking a jury here that will say, a, they haven't heard about the details of the case, or, b, more likely, that even though they've heard about it, they can put it aside and based case on the evidence. i think particularly with sexual crimes we all have in our mind if you've done it on repeated prior occasions you probably did it on this occasion. so that kind of atmosphere is particularly prejudicial to a defd and i think it's really
going to hurt cosby terrible in this case. >> danny, paul thinks cosby will be convicted. >> i don't. i think an acquittal. the witness has credibility problems. there may be problems with delay in reporting which is admissible under pennsylvania law and, again, the greatest threat is going to be in the pre-trial battleground. whether or not any of these additional accusers will be allowed to come in and testify, and if that ends up being the critical fact, it must leave us wondering, shouldn't a defendant be tried for what he is accused of doing and not for what a bunch of other people said he did at other dates in time? >> gotcha. gentlemen, have to leave it there, but we will obviously cover this in the weeks to come. thanks so much for being here. chris? >> true, alisyn. far from over. so, when we come back after this break, we're going to be talking to you. yeah, you. the person on the fence, who's not happy with how things are going in this country, but you're not sure who to vote for.
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donald trump is reviving old attacks on bill clinton and hillary clinton, dredging up conspiracy theorys in hopes of the obvious. discrediting hillary clinton making voters not want to pick her. the question is, will it work, and, really, it does seem to be working. so the question is also, why? let's discuss. brian stelter, cnn media analyst
and bill carter, also cnn media analyst. we know why you do this, bill, because it works. people love conspiracy theories. they love the probative value of the unknown. questions that you won't answer or can't answer. that's the no-brainer parts of this. right? >> yes that is, but also, when you're a presidential candidate you're expected to have certain responsibility in terms of the facts, and not just throw things out there. >> are you? >> yeah, i think you are supposed to. and in the past we've seen people make a single gaffe, and it really cost them, and in the case of trump, it's not costing him. he's able to sort of get away with it, and partly it's because he's not really been seriously confronted with it too often. >> but even when confronted by the fax, even when we as journalists call him out, he doubles down. almost as if he says it over and over and over again, making it true. >> an example, last fall. saw it six months. his statement about thousands of
muslims cheering. no evidence of that and contrary evidence to prove it's not true. yet when confronted with the facts, he doubled down. >> not just that it happened, i actually saw t. on the top of the list is important. the birther controversy from several years ago, the very first with donald trump. a preview what was to come. >> one of the few things he won't talk about anymore. winds up having a different angle which is -- >> old news. >> he will not talk about it. >> it's all news. >> but the damage done. doesn't matter anymore. everyone knows what he thinks. >> talk about that, bill. what is the responsibility of the media? one one of these conspiracy theories are revived, how many time do we, the media, need to spend going back for a tutorial to give the american public, here's what happened, who investigated, here's the date -- take as long time to do that. is it incumbent upon us to do it for each of these now? >> we do have to say at some point, this isn't true. if you're interviewing him now and he throws that out. you have to say, no.
that's not true. jake tapper did this yesterday pretty effectively i thought. one of the things trump uses, the oldest rhetorical technique going, it's called preyderigpre. it's not me saying this, but it's out there. trying not to let it stick to him. >> you blame "the washington post." why? >> because the "post" asked him a question about vince foster, almost like poking a bear or doing sort of a test, trying out conspiracy theories on trump to see if he believes them. >> and they didn't have go there. the "washington post" didn't have go there. >> it's all about trump's response. probably questionable for a media outlet to ask a candidate about conspiracy theories but fundamentally about the candidate' response. in this case, trump missed media literacy class. you read something online, you have to check it out.
>> he's bringing stuch ff up. that's the other side. >> you might be right right. i don't want to believe that. >> i think he's writing the book. becoming the personification of people's doubts, fears and frustrations. that's what he does. whether saying president obama wasn't born here. there was never any compelling proof of any of this. >> but 25% of americans do believe that. we have a list -- >> those people are all going to vote for any anyway. >> doesn't mean you indulge him. >> what? ask him whether aliens landed here, whether we actually went to the moon? >> look at this list. research that has been done about popular conspiracy theories and the percentage you see there is the percentage of people who were surveyed on this about what they believed, and that's how many people believed in this different theories. now, the researchers -- >> absolutely are. >> eric oliver and thomas ward, political scientists who did this research in 2006 and basically say these conspiracy theories can thrive when it's a
time of political distrust, when people are seeking to make sense of something that they are finding really uncomfortable, and trump is filling that void for them. >> well, i think, if you go back into the birther thing, it spoke to kind of a hostility towards the president. >> sure. >> and he wanted to tap into that. so i think he's reaching sort of a mean-spirited place in a lot of people. >> remember, some of these conspiracy theories, one single grain of truth. hard to find, but when trump brings up clinton's past, even though the moff are fake scandals, there might be some truth. >> the big truth he hasn't factored in, all of this stuff about the clintons may move some people. i agree with david gregory. if you feel about this, you're not going to vote for her anyway, but the stuff about him has not been vetted by special prowse kurts and tprosecutors.
so much stuff he is inviting into this. i am not looking forward to this. >> journalists have a lot of work to do there's a lot to work with. >> brian, bill, thank you. >> the state of play in the party and also events around the world. there is a lot of news this morning. so let's get right to it. anti-trump protestors turning violence. >> you'll be fine. >> some people are just allergic to the facts. >> she goes, he wanted to buy housing when it was at a low point. who the hell doesn't? >> we want to see his tax returns. that's right. let's see what you got there. >> we're in what i call a wwe raw state. >> call me old-fashioned. i think it matters what you say when you're running for president. >> i will not accept, somebody runs against me and buys the election. >> i need your help. we want to finish strong. >> people are catching on that they are the future.
>> we had a meltdown when it came to airport security. >> people are sick and tired of waiting. >> i got here about three, two and a half hours early. still wasn't enough time. >> talking federal security. a disturbing scenario. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." it is wednesday, may 25th. 6:00 in the east. ana cabrera joining us. >> coming in on a hump day. not bad. >> help us get through the hardest day of the week. breaking news, a chaotic scene in new mexico. anti-trump protestors turning violent. demonstrators clashes with police, pushing through barriers, disrupting the rail. >> the mayhem comes as trump wins one more state. the presumptive gop nominee easily winning the washington state primary. trump is now just eight delegates away from officially clinching the nomination.
meanwhile, the division in the democratic party could be reaching a breaking point. we have the 2016 race covered the way only cnn can. we begin with jason carroll. good morning, jason. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. last night donald trump promised to do everything from repealing and replacing obama care to improving tsa lines during that ratty. he also predicted he would win over hispanics. last night was another example of trump's problem with hispanics is not going away. >> reporter: overnight, police in riot gear blasting pepper spray. >> [ bleep ] push her [ bleep ] to the ground! >> reporter: and using smoke grenades to disburse anti-donald trump protestors outside his rally in albuquerque, new mexico. >> start moving! >> reporter: -- hours after the presumptive gop nominee's speech. >> get back!
>> reporter: dozens of protestors stomping on police cars. and throwing rocks and bottles at police, injuring several officers. earlier during trump's speech at the city the convention center -- protestors breaking through the metal barriers surrounding the venue. some making their way inside. only to be dragged out by security. inside, trump criticizing new mexico's republican governor susannah martinez who is also hispanic. >> since 2000 the number of people on food stamps in new mexico has tripled. we have to get your governor to get going. she's got to do a better job. okay? hey! maybe i'll run for governor of new mexico. i'll get this place going. >> reporter: but the bulk of trump's personal attacks set on targeting hillary clinton, trump opting to make fun of her voice. >> i will never say this. but she screams. it drives me crazy. >> reporter: and using some of his harshest language yet against clinton. >> i see this low life. she puts on an air.
>> reporter: angry clinton is painting trump as a greedy billionaire based on comments made in 2006 when he said he hoped to profit when the housing market collapsed. >> they have a clip of me saying, if it goes down i'm going to buy -- i'm a businessman. that's what i'm supposed to do. >> reporter: democratic senator elizabeth warren going after trump for his past business practices. >> donald trump was drooling over the idea of a housing meltdown, because it meant he could buy up more property on the cheap. what kind of a man does that? it is a man who cares about no one but himself. >> reporter: senator elizabeth warren and trump have been going back and forth for some time now. at one point, alisyn, she called him a small, insecure money monger. last night trump said she faked her american heritage.
something warren denies. >> a lot to talk about. bring in kellyanne conway, cnn political commentator, former reagan white house political director and trump supporter jeffrey lord and former communications director for jeb bush's campaign, tim miller. okay. great to have all of you. a lot has happened in the past 24 hours. jeffrey, start with you. quickly touch on the violence we saw. the anti-trump violence last night at this rally. is there anything that donald trump can or should do to try to quell that violence outside of his rallies? >> look, these are the kind of folks do this for decades, long before donald trump was on the scene. these are the kind of folks that get involved in occupy wall street or the anti-vietnam war protests where they commit violence. this is what they do, and politically speaking i have to say, you know, you look at this last night, and you say to
yourself, are these people secretly on donald trump's payroll? to be going after the police, for heaven's sake? to be attacking the police as they did, throwing rocks and bottles, all this. all that's going to do is produce exactly the kind of television pictures you've shown this morning, and that will help donald trump. i mean, it's disgraceful. >> sure. it is disgraceful. is there anything donald trump should do? can he control anything? >> we all agree with jeffrey, probably. absolutely, these folks are helping donald trump. peaceful protestors, okay. this is not acceptable. >> inside the rally, donald trump went after susana martinez, governor of new mexico. no one saw that one coming. saying things like, she's not doing her job. she's putting her state at risk by accepting syrian refugees. she, then, read this statement to you, her press people put out this statement's apparently donald trump doesn't realize governor martinez was not
elected in 2000, fought for welfaree worm. the pot shots were about politics and the governor will not be bullied into supporting the candidate until she's convinced that candidate will fight for new mexico. she didn't hear anything about helping mexicans today. what's happening? they're supposed to be on the same team. >> republicans have done well presidentially with the exception of president obama in 2008 and 2012. >> her endorsement? criticizing her? >> no. it's not. perhaps he'll meet with her separately. she actually was a keynote speaker last month here in new york and did not criticize donald trump only spoke about what she's done in new motion coe. seems mild compared to what's going on between sanders and hillary clinton. that's where the real heat is
these days. >> let's stape with donald trump. >> just yesterday, paul manafort, top advisers in the senate telling senators, if you want to disagree with donald trump on an issue, no worries. he understands that. we can take different sides. really, paul? the next speech he gives after that, he has no self-control. he attacks susana martinez publicly. if anyone slights him even a little bit, donald trump goes off the rails. do we want this guy in charge of the irs after conservatives are complaining about irs targeting? >> go ahead, jeffrey. >> not to put to fine a point on it, but voters decided. it's over. he's going to be the republican nominee for president. >> i agree with that. no, i'm saying that he shouldn't be the president. >> one more second. >> wait until november. >> donald trump always says he's a counter puncher. how did susana martinez start this fight? >> i was looking at this last night, and she was. she gave some, some talks --
there was a private talk in april and word leaked out she was critical of donald trump and said she played the identity politics card. which is a cancer inside the republican party. >> what does that mean? played the identity -- >> what does that mean? >> yes. how did she play the politics identity card? >> told these people according to accounts i was reading in the "washington post," i believe, she was insulted about things he was saying because she's a latina. she's not a latina. she is an american citizen. she's an american. >> she is the only latina governor in the country. >> race has nothing to do with this. >> donald trump, a problem with hispanics should be bear hugging her. she's successful, poll lpular. why is he attacking her besides his thin skin? >> this is the party of lincoln. enough said. >> i want to ask you about something else that happened last night. that is elizabeth warren was in washington, d.c. at a gail la.
she spoke out about donald trump. in a political royale. she picked on the thread hillary clinton has been saying about donald trump seeming to cheer or root for the housing market to crash. so listen to elizabeth warren last night. >> donald trump was drooling over the idea of a housing meltdown, because it meant he could buy up more property on the cheap. what kind of a man does that? what kind of a man roots for people to get thrown out of their house? what kind of man roots for people to get thrown out of their jobs, to root for people to lose their pensions. to root for two little girls in clark county to end up living out of a van? what kind of a man does that? i'll tell you exactly what kind of a man does that. it is a man who cares about no one but himself. a small -- [ applause ]
-- a small, insecure, money grubber who doesn't care who gets hurt so long as he makes a profit off it. what -- what kind of a man does that? a man who will never be president of the united states. >> okay. so kelly ann, the crowd loved it. your response? >> a democratic liberal crowd. of course they're going to love it. my response, i'm amazed the left camp ignores donald trump. all responding to him. hillary clinton gets new cycling gobbled way by donald trump and elizabeth warren is complicit she's go going to complain, hillary clinton got $21.5 million. they want to hear donald trump. be honest who made what kind of money where and how. just yesterday the "daily
caller" a riveting report about a donor to the clinton foundation giving, getting $100 million worth of mineral rights. when she was secretary of state. follow the real money here. >> jeffrey, first one. go ahead. >> yeah. one of the things that's not being mentioned here is that bill clinton's housing policy specifically his national home ownership partnership strategy was according to -- a book calmed "reckless endangerment" by a "new york times" reporter decimated the middle class, was responsible for the 2008 housing crisis, which was the worst crisis since the great depression. what they're talking about here is a policy of bill clinton that resulted in these problems, and she's trying to go after donald trump? i mean what a joke. >> okay. tim, what do you think about this? >> i say she is -- hate being on the side of defending elizabeth warren. she's better than hillary clinton. so hillary clinton can take lessons from her technically. jeffrey points out about bill
clinton exactly right. it's unfortunate our nominee is the worst possible vessel to make that case against him and he start add subprime mortgage company a year before the crisis. you know, he made comments of this nature and i think it will hurt nim states lie ohio, pennsylvania, nevada in particular. >> i disagree. a great vessel, because he wasn't in public life. he wasn't a politician when all of these policies were being made. >> and seen as having worked against the american -- her personalizing to two little girls living out of a van, how does that not hurt trump? >> because of bill clinton's policies. >> that he supported. donald was a democrat then, by the way. >> comes full circle. >> this is complicated. >> disingenuous to politicize two little girls and make it sound like he got on his jet and put them in a van. >> try to put a human face. >> donald trump is not mitt
romney. he's teflon don. >> before donald trump started conspiracy theories about bill clinton supported him called him a great man supported the clinton foundation. he's an absolutely non-credible person to make these cases. >> and we will get to all of the bill clinton stuff later in the program, jeffrey, thank you, kelly ann, tim, thanks so much for being here. turn to the democrats now. bernie sanders is fighting for every last delegate calling for a recanvassing now of last week's kentucky primary. the results there and essentially asking to double check the vote tally. and his recent criticism of dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz may have put her job in jeopardy. haven't haven't senior correspondent joe johns is live now with more. joe? >> reporter: ana, head of the democratic party again coming into focus after bernie sanders went after her over the weekend in the middle of this pitched campaign battle for california, the biggest prize of the primary season. no indication any democratic
senators launched a formal effort to get rid of debbie wasserman schultz, but the sanders campaign can claim credit this morning for starting a conversation about it. on capitol hill, democratic senators discussing removing debbie wasserman schultz as the head of the party. one source saying many feel it would be a good idea. the source telling cnn there's fears she's become "too toxic in the ongoing democratic civil war." the feud between the dnc chair and the sanders campaign reaching a fever pitch after kay chaos erupted. this as the nevada democratic convention. >> she's been throwing shade on the sanders' campaign since the very beginning. >> reporter: sanders accusing her of supporting hillary clinton before the primaries even began, something she vehemently denied. >> san bernardino, thank you! >> reporter: sanders fighting on hoping to defeat clinton in the upcoming delegate-rich primary in california. secretary clinton less than 100 delegates away from clinching
the nomination, looking towards the general election. >> i need your help in this upcoming primary, because we want to finish strong. >> reporter: and pledging to stop trump. >> why on earth would we elect somebody president who actually rooted for the collapse of the mortgage market? >> reporter: but sanders believes he would be the best challenger against the presumptive republican nominee. >> if we get the democratic nomination, donald trump is toast. >> reporter: and in the fight to gain traction, the sanders' campaign calling into question the results of last week's kentucky primary. in a statement the campaign says it's "requesting a full and complete recanvas of every one of the voting machines and absentee ballots." sanders lost to clinton by a razor-thin margin of roughly 1,900 votes. a clinton aide accusing sanders of raising more money for his
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senator bernie sanders says the system is rigged, and the results in kentucky are proof of that. less than 2,000 votes caused his loss there and he is now asking for a recanvassing going back through all of the machines to figure out if that was the real spread, and he also says the head of the party should go. what are the implications of all this? let's discuss with former ohio state senator nina turner, a sanders campaign surrogate. good to have you on the show face to face. >> yes. >> so what is the goal in kentucky? there's only one delegate, really, that would be up your grabs in this situation. what's the point? >> i mean, it matters. you know, in terms of the integrity of the election, it matters. he's not asking for a full
recount, but the recanvas just to look at that. >> what's the difference between a recanvas and a recount? >> just looking at totals. not going in recounting every single ballot that was cast, and it was a razor-thin margin between him and the secretary, but more importantly, chris, not getting a lot of traction, is the fact that the current secretary of state, you know, made an endorsement, i don't think any chief elections officer, whether republican or democrat, in kentucky, and she called the, the election even before, you know it was officially called by the media. so the recanvas is the appropriate thing to protect the integrity of the election. >> unless you're going to tie her endorsement of hillary to some type of perversion of the process, there are different complaints. one is, i don't know if the system worked. the voting system. right? which wouldn't just be about bernie but everybody. >> absolutely. >> the other is this party is set up to defeat me? >> let me just say this --
if it had been a republican i remember in ohio, chris, you may remember when then secretary of state kim blackwell was very engaged in the bush campaign, on committee and all of that. i personally feel, especially somebody who ran for secretary of state in 2014 you have to be an honest arbiter. two separate issues and also speaks to the faith that people have or do not have in the system itself. >> good. let's discuss that. is sanders, and by extension you, by the way, giving too much doubt to the process? the rules are what they are. nothing has been changed to disadvantage bernie sanders. these are the same rules, for example that in 2008 senator barack obama had to battle through. the party system is clear. it's set up to advantage people who come from within that system but he overcame it. those are the rules, you know it. no surprises. why all the complaining?
that doesn't mean the rules don't need to be change. senator sanders has been a beacon of light in the entire process. an example. about 120,000 folks in brooklyn were thrown off the rolls for some reason. democrats, those of us who hold ourselves up to care about elections integrity, access to the ballot box should be crying bloody murder. one of the reasons we're probably not is because lots of democrats control new york. fair is fair. the whole notion we disenfranchise about 3 million in new york and start talking about disenfranchising, open primaries, those are the rules. whether or not we should look at those and try to change them for the better. were you know better you should do better. >> so what does -- why does it sound like whining? he only started making these claims when he started losing. he's down at least 2.2 million votes cast more in favor for
clinton than him. the 3 million number, gets dicey because of caucuses. >> yes. >> i got you. >> okay. >> take the lowest possible number. >> okay. >> he's still down by 2 million votes. >> but still running. >> absolutely. he should be. >> drawing attention to a thing does not mean that you're whiningsoap folks on the other side want to call it that, but if you can improve a system, that is really the job here, it's not just that he is running for president. but he is trying to improve the systems as we go on so hopefully next time -- >> seems the risk is, though, he's undermining confidence in the party at a time, especially now, where you guys got to figure out what you're going to do do. you have a big formidable machine coming at you in the form of donald trump and ironically banking on him being a divider. he is bringing that party together and you guys are moving apart. >> don't say you guys. >> democrats -- >> this is about the people, and for far too long we've been talking about "the parties." in all of this, the people are
lost. it really is the values of the party that we should be uplifting and not the party itself. lots of work is going to have to be done, but that's what democracy, what representatives, we live in a republic that is really what it's about. it's not going to be pretty. so it's not the job to protect a party. >> not pretty, but will it be productive? >> absolutely it will. change is for the better are productive. it doesn't mean as my senator said, messy. messy doesn't necessarily mean violence. let me say this, too, chris. what happens in new mexico compared to nevada while some in the media continue to talk about violence in nevada which i was there, compared to what happened in -- new mexico was violence. new mexico -- nevada was people lifting their voices. >> relatively it was, you can also argue what happened in nevada has no place in democracy either. >> what did they do? go to great britain in a parliament. they stand up and boo each other all day long. i was in that room at least
eight hour. no one was hurt. no violence was prop gaagated i that room. i have a problem with folks calling that violence. yes, people lifted their voices. they got up in front of the stage. they said, you cheat. you're cheating. that is a big difference -- >> stuff thrown as well. >> ah -- nothing. what chair? did you see the video of a chair thrown? >> those are the reports from the floor. >> oh, my lord, jesus. no. it did not happen. >> why you have to bring him into this? >> i got to. i need him in this process, we need some jesus. >> thank you so much. so happy to have you make the case here. you know that. >> thank you. chris, donald trump campaigning like it's 1999. bringing up scandals from president bill clinton's time in office. will that strategy work against hillary clinton in the year 2016? john avalon and market hoover here with their take. get ready for the rio olympic games
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it's the old stories dominating the current political climate. dnt hoping his constant reminders of past troubles for the clintons will essentially scare away voters from hillary clinton and the likely democratic nominee. so is this a good strategy? cnn chief political correspondent dana bash take as closer look. >> reporter: it is political guerrilla warfare. >> hillary clinton's husband abused women more than any man that we know of in the history of politics, right? >> reporter: a source familiar with donald trump's campaign strategy tells cnn that trump dredging up tawdry, unproven allegations about bill clinton's past is not based on data or focus groups from his new pollster or partner the republican national committee. >> she's married to a man who hurt many women. >> reporter: instead cnn is told this is vintage trump going with
his guff and shooting from the hip going after this ad from a pro-clinton camp. >> a good body, no. >> attacked him as being a massam massa massagenist. that's not true. >> reporter: attacking hillary clinton of an enabler, like in the midst of bill clinton's scandal with monica lewinsky. >> can you imagine how controversy? how about me with the women? >> reporter: even ten years later in 2008. >> look at the trouble bill clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant, and they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. >> reporter: here's how a longtime trump confidant explained his 180. >> all b.s.? a. private citizen who was friendly with the clintons trying to protect a friend.
all right? now it's a different game. >> reporter: and then there are conspiracy theories, like the false charge that bill clinton's white house counsel vince foster was murdered, despite multiple investigations ruling it a suicide. trump told the "washington post," foster's death was "very fishy" but said, i will say there are people who continue to bring it up, because they think it was absolutely a murder. i don't do that, because i don't think it's fair. even that feeds the 2016 campaign conversation, which bill clinton himself clearly saw coming, saying, this just last week -- >> you think the stuff they said about her is bad? they accused me of murder. i mean, our memories are short. it's what they do. >> reporter: some sources close to clinton are urging her not to take what they call trump's bait. >> i know that that's exactly what he is fishing for, and, you know, i'm not going to be responding. >> reporter: dana bash, cnn, washington. okay. so let's discuss all of this
with our cnn political commentator and republican consultant margaret hoover and cnn political analyst and editor-in-chief of the "daily beast" john avalon. the argument from trump supporters. this may be old news, the clinton sex scandals, we lived through it in the '90s, however there's a whole crop of millennials that are voters that may not know about this, and they may be somehow poisoned against the clintons by hearing about this now. john, go. >> yeah. look, i mean, there is a generation that was not politically aware or alive that can vote now when all of these scandals first got resuscitated, but go into the garbage dump and bringing out all the old con spearies, paperbacks and vhss and airing them -- make a distinction. the self-inflicted sex scandals of the clinton years absolutely credible. some of the other scandals totally credible. the conspiracy theories -- we need to separate out the vince foster stuff. that's where all of a sudden you are trolling the american
people, you're, you know, your typical bully pretending they're a victim and it really is indulging all the conspiracy theorists totally discredited and we need to call that out. the sex scandal is of public record and we need to own it and up to donald trump to protect himself on these matters. >> what's interesting, donald trump, the presumptive nominee of the republican party, running a republican opposition playbook from the 1990s, from two decades ago. plenty of research on hillary clinton from one decade ago and this decade let alone her tenure as secretary of state. the e-mail scandal, substantive and policy positions, contrast, one could draw with hillary clinton and real, i think, moral arguments to make about some of her choices as secretary of state. >> yawn, yawn, yawn. >> chris icily. >> what you're doing, seeing a candidate -- who is running to the right trying to lock up the
conservative base of a non-party who didn't vote for him in this nominating process, but running for a general election now and -- >> he is doing -- >> people don't care about this. >> during primaries, let me beat you down and wait until i get ahold of hillary. this is what he told you he was going to do. his guy on the show yesterday saying, just wait. this is only the beginning, and the answer to alisyn's question is a simple one-word answer. yes. does it work? yes, it works. >> how do you know? >> it hasn't worked -- >> this has all worked for him. >> her ratings went up. the last time they went after -- >> favorable. it will work. whether right or not is different. >> the last time we litigated all this -- >> actually pull back from my -- >> their ratings went up. >> hold on. >> that i believe is a little myth, by the way. we don't know why her numbers went up, just the attacks were going on at the same time. but there are a lot of other factors. i'm unimpressed by what you've
sead so far. >> as a republican, guess what happened when we ran that playbook in the 1990s. hillary clinton was the sympathetic figure of that entire era. her husbands transgressions were her husband's transgressions. she's running for president. the sympathetic figure. hillary clinton. >> on the show, saying, how can hillary clinton help women when she con control the predation against women in her own house? >> sam is probably not the right guy to make it. have a woman make that point because she did not stand up for people who were being accused. >> they will. they'll have this sort of -- >> she's easy supposed to embrace the people fooling around with her husband? that's what he's going to say, and one of the key demographics he has to win over independent-minded, single women who are independent, decide hoog deciding who to vote for. republican women saying your
fault somehow that your husband has a sexual, you know, proclivity and cheating on you? >> where's the proclivity? >> why are they -- >> chris, you ask -- >> not a dumb guy, sam clovis. not a dumb guy. >> you ask, who does it work for? answer to your own question, it works for trump. this is the problem. the trump centric universe, take that makes sense. in the world of winning an election, pivot from winning a republican primary and arguments that work for a republican base in a populous moment are totally different than what work for a general election. involves reaching out, winning over the edge, and the reason she's ties because hillary clinton is currently fighting a two-front war. there's a certain superficiality to the fact they're tied now, because the fact is if you dig into the numbers, he's got a much deeper climb with key democrat graphics and she's suffering from sanders supporters furious because they feel the election was stolen, but the idea that they, 100% won't return to rally around democrats to keep trump out
probably isn't rooted in reality. >> now answer your own question? >> what do you want me to do? let them run around with their own theories? i don't want to rubber stamp these people. >> good. thank you both. great to have you. >> a married couple coming in telling me what's what. >> let's get to ana. >> all right. thanks, guy. head of the tsa is in the hot seat on capitol hill today. at issue, those aggravating long lines at airport security checkpoints. so is the tsa doing enough to fix things? are we really safer right now? we'll talk to the agency's former administrator, next. race car made history when it sold for a record price of just under $30 million. and now, another mercedes-benz makes history selling at just over $30,000. ♪ and to think this one actually has a surround-sound stereo. the 2016 cla. lease the cla250 for $299 a month at your local
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the head of the tsa is expected to get a capitol hill grilling this morning when he appears before the house homeland security committee. it comes amid new scrutiny over the long, long lines at airport security checkpoints that effectively cost the agency security chief his job this week. joining us now to discuss, fo former tsa administrator now president of anderson university in indiana. good morning, sir. thank you so much for joining us. i want to ask you, having been on the inside as we see what seems to be major dysfunction with this organization, what do you think is at the root of it? >> well, yeah. it's obviously a complex situation. the context of which is obviously tsa is trying to prevent terrorists from doing bad things on planes like which may have happened last week on egyptair flight from paris to cairo. that being said, they are trying to be as thorough and as professional and as efficient as possible to identify in
disrupting those potential threats. that coupled with the significant increase in passengers who are traveling this year that haven't in the past, has really created some of those issues that you described. >> there has been, we know, an increase in the number of passengers, and a decrease in the number of tsa officers who are at the airport. but i guess the bigger question is -- do their procedures that slow all of this down really make us safer? >> well, clearly it does. i mean we go back to pre-9/11 with no tsa, and we see what happened on 9/11. and we see what happens around the world, and it's no coincidence, i believe, and i believe that the u.s. intelligence and law enforcement community would back this up, that the attacks we've seen, whether at the brussels airport or, again, this most recent flight if it was a terrorist event or, of course, the metrojet out of sharm el sheikh to st. petersburg, russia,
terrorists are focusing on the weakest links, the softer targets, because people view the u.s. as multiple areas of activity that help buy down risk. the fact is over 10 million passengers per month in the first five months here of 2016, more than they had last year. so that's a significant increase, and you're right, with fewer tsa employees, to screen those folks, we're seeing what is the logical natural consequence of those enhanced security actions with increased passenger loads. >> what about accountability? we did see the head of security operations with the tsa was removed from his position this week, but way back in april, there were some concerns that were brought up at a hearing. in fact, about this individual, kill hog killy hoggan.
no prior experience in the intelligence arena. apparently a role in reassigns some of the people who expressed concerns about the agency, essentially giving them demotions, and he received $90,000 in bonus pay. so he's gone, but this is an agency that has 60,000-plus employees. what difference does it make if one individual is removed? >> well, you're right. one individual does not make or break an that large of an organization. the fact is that kelly hoggan had extensive airline experience, which is critically important in knowing how to work with the airlines and how, then, to take that information, intelligence, from the intel community, homeland security take that and make it into actionable changes at airports. >> why is he gone then? just for optics that we're doing something? >> i'd have to defer to tsa dhs
on that, obviously. but it's emblematic of the focus which is on tsa, and the pressure that people feel to make sure that things are working right, and even if there's no terrorist attempts, just long lines can really be a challenge, because of the inefficiencies that are real or perceived and the impact on the economy, where people are missing flights. and so i think it's something that administrative messages need to take action to make a change and help address some of these significant wait times. >> quickly what is the solution? could private security screeners be the answer? >> no. i don't think so, because they still need to follow, unless congress changes the law, they still need to follow tsa rules and regulations. san francisco, kansas city, another two dozen smaller airports from privatized front-line screeners. the solution is what secretary johnson and the administrator are doing in terms of surging to those key, largest airports that
have the significant wait times and working with congress and the airlines to make sure that they can buy down risk in a meaningful way while way while not. >> the federal government has now pledged $34 million to hire more screeners to help get the process moving forward. john, we appreciate your insight this morning. thanks for joining us on "new day." >> thank you, good morning. all right, with all this talk about what has already happened in politics, do you remember kenneth starr? he led the sexual inquisition against bill clinton and now he is facing a scandal of his own. what's it all about? details, next. you pay your car insurance
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perhaps still is the most gifted politician of the baby boomer generation. leave aside the unpleasantness, his genuine empathy for human beings is absolutely clear. it is powerful. it is palable, and the folks of arkansas understood that about him. he genuinely care. i feel your pain is absolutely genuine. >> okay, in a further ironic twist, ken starr, now president of baylor university, could lose his own job, over his mishandling of sexual assault allegations on campus. joining us now is jeff toomin. good morning. >> good morning. >> are cats living with dogs, how strange is to hear ken starr talking about bill clinton's genuine empathy. >> it is peculiar. i think starr would say his empathy is a separate issue from
his behavior in the context of his investigation. but i think it is indicative of how much bill clinton's reputation has recovered since the '90s, and how the whole impeachment scandal, the whole monica lewinsky looks even to star like what the hell, why whatdid we pay attention for it? >> funny you said that. >> we were just discussing it, moments ago. >> absolutely. so you say that it looks to ken starr, the man who led the charge of what were we doing, maybe, you know, he does sound regretful frankly in some of this. at the same time it is being revived by donald trump to say for all of you who don't know what happened, let's rehash all of this. >> let's talk about one thing, just as an example. he yesterday, donald trump was saying, well what, about the death of this vince foster, very mysterious, very shady. ken starr devoted months and months to investigating the
death of vince foster, and concluded that this was a man who had depression and committed suicide. there was no political scandal. nothing political about his death. yet, you know, here we are, decades later, donald trump is reviving it as if there is something suspicious there. >> they investigated it, as did cnn, all concluding it was a tragic suicide. however, the scandals about the women are different. those really happened. those, you know, as we know from the long monica lewinsky investigation, the paula jones investigation, so what do you think? will that have traction all of these years later? >> you know, i doubt it will move new voters. the people who really dislike bill and hillary clinton will find another reason to vote against her. but remember, you know, as we keep pointing out, it's hillary clinton who is the candidate here. not bill clinton.
she was not implicated in any misconduct. she was not someone who was accused even of doing anything untoward with regard to these women. there have been -- donald trump is raising, you know, the specter of misconduct. >> there are allegations by the women. the women say they felt intimidated by her. there is no evidence of that, but juanita broderick said she gave her side glances and shook her hand too long and said something in a coded way. >> by the way, another matter investigated by ken starr, the alleged misconduct of bill clinton, which he did not decide to bring any charges from. so again, you know, you have to keep that in mind. >> back to the ironic twist of ken starr, the president of baylor university, and he pai appears to be on the possibly losing his job by dfemale
studentsi students saying they were sexually assaulted. he didn't address it with vigor. >> it is bizarre. right before i went on the air, i was reading one of the complaints, lawsuits filed against baylor by these women, and the story of not just how these women were assaulted, in this case, members of the football team, but the instituti institutional contempt for the victims. they got no help from the baylor administration. that's really what starr is on the verge of losing his job about. obviously he can't control if football players or anyone else commits misconduct, but he can control a system that is supposed to be somewhat responsive. >> absolutely. after the exhaustive investigation into bill clinton's misconduct and then, you know, turning what they say is a blind eye at his own university. >> of all issues, he should be
overt to that one. >> indeed. jeffrey, thank you for being here on "new day." we're following a lot of news, including violent protests last night. let's get right to it. >> anti-trump protesters are taking to the streets. >> he actually said he was hoping it would crash. >> i am a businessman, that's what i'm supposed to. >> we're not going to let him bankrupt america. >> if we get the nomination, donald trump is toast. the court found that there was sufficient evidence to require mr. cosby to stand trial. >> no crime committed here. this case should end immediately. >> we want to seek the truth. we're here to serve justice. >> conflicting accounts of the plane's fate. >> there was smoke in the lavatory. >> that throws the whole theory of terrorism into a big question mark.
>>announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn come rote at that. >> good morning, everyone. 8:00 in the east. a a ana cabrera is here with us this morning. outside new mexico, anti-trump protesters clashing with police, throwing rocks and bottles, some even breaking through police barriers to disrupt trump's speech. >> the mayhem comes as trump comes closer to clinching the nomination. the presumptive nominee easily won the washington state primary, now just eight delegates away from securing his spot on the november ballot. in the meantime, dominos could be ready to fall on the democratic side with the party's chair in jeopardy of losing her job over the turmoil with the bernie sanders campaign. we have the race covered, only the way cnn can. let's begin with jason carroll. >> last night, donald trump saying the safest places in the
country is one of his rallies. it did not look that way last night. after once again, protests erupted in the streets. fr trump for his part, senator elizabeth warren during his rally, he also took aim at new mexico's republican governor. >> overnight, police in riot gear, blasting pepper spray. and using smoke grenades to disburse anti-donald trump protesters outside his rally in albuquerque, new mexico. hours after the presumptive gop nominee's speech. dozens of protesters, stomping on police cars. and throwing rocks and bottles at police, injuring several officers. earlier during trump's speech at the city's convention center,
protesters breaking through the metal barrier surrounding the venue, some making their way inside. only to be dragged out by security. inside, trump criticizing new mexico's republican governor, susana martinez, who is also hispanic. >> since 2000, the number of people on food stamps in new mexico has tripled. we have to get your governor to get going. she has to do a better job, okay. hey, maybe i'll run for governor of north carolina. >> the attacks set on targeting hillary clinton, trump opting to make fun of her voice. >> i will never say this. but she screams, it drives me crazy. >> and using some of his harshest language yet. >> she puts on an ad. >> trump angry clinton is painting him as a greedy billionaire, when he said he
hoped to profit when the market collapsed. >> yeah, if it goes down, i am a businessman, that's what i'm supposed to. >> democratic senator elizabeth warren going after trump for his past business practices. >> donald trump was drooling over the idea of a housing meltdown. because it meant he could buy up more property on the cheap. what kind of a man does that. it is a man who cares about no one but himself. a small, insecure money-grubber who doesn't care who gets hurt. so long as he makes a profit off it. >> well, trump called senator warren a total failure at that rally last night. also, calling her pochantis, faking her american heritage. >> good times, good times.
jason, thank you very much. joining us now, sam clovis, advisor to the trump campaign. sam, good morning to you. >> how you doing, chris? great to talk to you. >> let's title this segment why. the first, why go after the governor of new mexico? she checks like so many boxes for trump, republican, obviously. female latina, doing well in that state. why go after her? >> well, i think it was the -- perhaps there was a snub that governor martinez chose not to attend the rally, chosen not to make the connection with the campaign, and i think -- i don't think it has anything to do with her gender. i don't think it has anything to do with her ethnic heritage. i don't think it has to do with anything other than she is slow walking her support of the presumptive candidate. i think that's difficult. we see that across a lot of different areas, and this is,
again, we're going to see more and more people coalesce behind mr. trump, and that will take time. and like most campaigns, elbows get up under the basket. we saw that last night. >> right. >> i think this is where we are. >> not a gentle game, that is going to be stipulated by all who are in or around it. but sam, one of the reasons that you are seen as a leader in your party is your temperament. you want to disagree with sam, go right ahead. expect counter arguments, expect a sharp tone. but you don't just start attacking reflectively the person that you're arguing with. how do you get your candidate to stop just going after anybody who does something he doesn't like, because you know as president, you can't do that day in and day out. >> well, we're still eight delegates short of securing the nomination. i think that once that is done, i mean, this has been the kind of the approach that we've
taken. i also think, chris, you and i have talked about this many times, and very soberly and professionally we've talked about it. the idea here is that mr. trump is not like any other candidate that has ever run for president, and this campaign is not like any other campaign, and i think we continued to try to push this campaign and mr. trump into a particular template that a lot of people perhaps those of us who are tuned in and plugged into the political side of this, we have this mental image of what the campaign and image should look like and he is neither of those. >> you could be by nature disposition and behavior rejects the system, but temperament still matters. the stuff that, the big why for our discussion, why go back after the clintons about the scandals and things of the '90s? you were quoted as saying how can hillary clinton protect women when she couldn't protect
the predation of women in her own house. do you believe that's a winning strategy, blaming the victim of infidelity? >> well, i think -- i don't blame hillary for infidelity. i think the issue here is the hypocrisy that is fmanifested i this situation. you cannot take on the cloak of a victim and you can't take on the fact that you're going to be the leading the charge against the republican party and saying that they have a war on women, when within your own household, you have sexual predator living there. it just, there is a hypocrisy there that is questionable about the individual judgment and you want to talk about temperament, that's probably a good question there. >> the premise is questionable, though, sam, when you say it. you say it as a conclusion. you have a sexual predator in your own house. there has never been any legal definition of bill clinton as that.
you're basing that on allegations that were made, some of them proven false, some of them left as open questions. that's your basis, right? >> well, i don't agree with that, chris. i think that -- >> tell me. >> the issue is, you know, i think that -- i don't agree with that at all. i think that, you know, respectfully, i just don't agree with that. >> but tell me why, sam. >> well, i just think that there is far too much evidence and far too many coincidences, far too many occurrences, observations of his behavior, of president clinton's behavior, and the issue comes back to the notion, you cannot have an attack on the republican party on a war on women, when in fact, we have this issue with one of the leaders of the democratic party has been the leader for now a generation and a half, and still, we have this person who is out here, even though there are -- there have been clearly a
person who has been involved in infidelity. we had cnn on your network, chris, every program i saw with 15 minutes talking about sexual predation of bill cosby. >> he is on trial. >> raises my eye brow. >> there are 50 women making the claim. >> we can't talk about bill clinton, but we can certainly talk about bill cosby. >> he is on trial, and he has 50 women who have come forward with stories of drug doping and sexual assault. that doesn't match bill clinton. you know whose record does match bill clinton's, donald trump. the risk that you point one finger at clinton, and you have four pointing back at you. the clintons have an unusual defense. what sam clovis has said many times before, vetted by a sfesh
prosecutor, hearing from the senate and the media for a decade. a lot of stink on donald trump that has not been vetted that way at all. why invite this march down memory lane of his marriages, and allegations of assault there, and of indiscretions and behavior that is arguably immoral if not criminal. why invaite that discussion? >> i think that, again, i respectfully, chris, i think that mr. trump has been vetted for 40 years. he has been a personality in new york for 40 years. he's been part of the tabloids for 40 years. he lives large and is large and all of that. i think the notion of scrutiny has been pretty clear. but what i do think is, you know, what we are really looking at here, you know the inside of politics better than anyone, because of the long heritage and
great heritage, but the issue here is that why are these issues, it brings up doubt, it brings up questions, and negative campaigning has been part of our efforts here, and we see this on both sides. all parties intend to go to this. it is not to get people to switch their votes. the whole purpose of negative campaigning is to get people not to vote for that particular candidate. and it has -- that's really the issue. and so right now, we're raising the specter, raising the issues, getting people to think about these things and putting these place cards out here that we'll be looking at as we get into the long, hot summer as we rush into labor day and serious about electi electio elections. >> what will make life better for the american people, just like your baseball hats indicate, making america great again, because it is hard to see how this takes us down that road. sam, thank you for making the
case on "new day," sir. >> all right, thanks, chris. we'll talk soon. >> absolutely. ana. there is some moving and shaking on democrats side of the aisle. bernie sanders continuing to battle forever la every last de. his attacks on the democratic party chairwoman pair to be taking a toll this morning. ichinojo johns is live with more on this. ichinojo. >> ahead of the democratic party, again coming into focus after bernie sanders went after her over the weekend in the middle of that campaign battle for california, the big prize of the primary season. no indication that any democratic senators have launched a formal effort to get rid of debbie wasserman schultz, but the sanders campaign can get krid credit for starting the conversation. removing her as head of the party, the source telling cnn,
fear she has become, quote, too toxic, in the democratic civil war. this feud, as you know, began and reach aid fevered pitch after the chaos that erupted at the nevada democratic convention. meanwhile, the fight to gain traction in the sanders campaign, calling into question the results of last week's kentucky primary. in a statement, it quote, is requesting a full and complete recanvas of everyone of the voting machines and absentee ballots. he lost by a razor thin margin of roughly 1,900 votes. alisyn. >> we'll be talking about this with the chief strategist. joe, thank you for that reporting. bill cosby facing a criminal trial. the judge ruling that there is enough evidence to go ahead with the case against cosby. jean is live in norristown.
>> reporter: this was extremely important, it was a pivotal ruling that it is bound for the trial. the defense, however, continues to say they are going to try to get these charges dismissed in criminal court for bill cosby. a judge ruling, there is enough evidence for bill cosby to stand trial for the alleged sexual assault of a former temple university employee in 2004. >> we only have to show that a crime is committed and the defendant is connected to the crime. it is a preliminary hearing. hearsay is admissible and we're just over the next hurdle in this. >> reporter: a police detective reading for the first time the accuser, andrea constand made to police in 2005. in them, she says cosby encouraged her to drink wine and take blue pills. shortly after, she said her vision blurred, her legs rubbery, and she felt scared and
unable to speak. she was aware of cosby putting his hands on her breasts and down her pants. in cosby's statement to police, he admits to touching and kissing her, and gave her benadryl to help her relax. he maintains the encounter was consensual. >> the point is it was intoxicating to her and that she was unable to consent. >> reporter: the defense attacking constand's credibility, saying parts of her statement were crossed out, or redacted. >> they presented an 11 year-old statement that was riddled with corrections and inconsistencien. >> reporter: he invited constand back to his room. constand initially says she laid down on the bed with cosby, their legs touching. but she later crossed that out, saying the two were relaxed, close to one another. bill cosby has waived his formal arraignment set for july. aggravated indecent assault
carries a penalty of ten years, but by law, the judge, if bill cosby would be convicted of all counts, can sentence concur renally, meaning, chris, he would serve approximately ten years in prison. >> a lot of those sentences may wind up flowing together. we are a long way away from there. thanks, jean. we told you bernie sanders wants a review of the vote, what they call a recanvassing, not recounting every ballot, but make sure they add up. so hillary clinton won by a tight margin. do they care about this? we'll hear from team clinton, next.
hillary clinton campaigning hard in california, hoping for a strong finish to take her into the general election. but bernie sanders still fighting for every delegate, and asking for a recanvassing of last week's kentucky primary, where clinton won by a razor thin margin. let's get reaction from the clinton campaign. joel bennison joins us now. he wants the absentee ballots checks. are you okay with that. >> sure. we've said from the beginning, a win is a win. we've had close races. he won by a razor thin margin, some we have. at the end of the day, he can recanvas all those votes. it won't change the delegate
count. >> it might. there are less than 2,000 votes apart. if he gets those 2,000, it does change the delegate count, right. >> by one or two. we're ahead by 270 pledged delegates, no matter what happens on june 7th, when we compete in delegate rich new jersey and california, we're going to have a majority of pledged dealt gaits a pledged delegates by more than. we're going to end up there on june 7th. >> why is he doing it? >> i have no idea. you would have to ask him that. >> bernie sanders and other senators have begun talking about removing and replacing dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz. he feels she has been on the side of hillary clinton. what do you think. >> what normally happens is when the nominee becomes the nominee
officially with that clear, that person picks the chair of the democratic national committee. that's what happened in 2008, when president obama became the chair. we'll see what happens then. i'm not involved in any of those talks. i think for sanders and his camps, issues, they've raised them before. every time something happens, they raise issues. but you know, we're at a point where we need to unify the party and both sides need to do it as quickly as possible. >> has she become too toxic? a word being used by some of the democratic senators, an cnn's investigation, because of the strong words she and bernie sanders have now exchanged. there seems to be this rift. >> there has been strong words on both sides, and look, we're in a contest for the nominee of the democratic party. i think democratic party leaders will hash this out and make a decision about who the chair should be going forward once it is clear that hillary clinton is the nominee. >> but you don't think that
debbie wasserman schultz is in negative? >> it is not up to me whether she is or isn't effective or not. if they want to have that debate in the sanders campaign, they should have the debate with democratic party leaders. >> elizabeth warren was at an event last night and she went after donald trump, and she used familiar line of attack. let me play some of it for you. >> donald trump was drooling over the idea of a housing meltdown, because it meant he could buy up more property on the cheap. what kind of a man does that? i'll tell you exactly what kind of a man does that. it is a man who cares about no one but himself. what kind of a man does that? a man who will never be president of the united states. >> okay, so one of the things that's interesting about that, that's the very same line of attack that hillary clinton had used yesterday about donald trump finding the audio of
donald trump seemingly rooting for a housing market crash, so that he could cash in. so is elizabeth warren now coordinating in a real way with the clinton campaign? >> i don't think it is about coordination. he wasn't seemingly saying it. he not only said it, he doubled down on it last night. he said that's what i'm supposed to do. well, when you're president of the united states, no, you're not. it is a track record he has of putting himself first, enriching himself at the expense of others. you go look at his most ba bankruptcies, the business contractors didn't get out fine. the workers who got a dollar on a penny. donald trump has always been in it for himself. his comments on the housing crisis are outrageous. to think you're running for president and should be enriching yourself over average people. it is frankly a complete disgrace. >> speaking of elizabeth warren,
some people believe she could be one of the vp picks, hillary clinton yesterday talked about who her vice-presidential picks might be. let me show the viewers this. >> mark cuban, joe biden. >> oh, joe. >> you're picking joe? gotta go with tony. >> tony? jeff probst. >> bernie sanders. >> tony. >> kanye. >> i gotta go with tony. what can i say. >> george clooney. >> oh, well, tony could be the first term and george could be the second. >> there you go. that solves that problem. so is it going to be tony from "scandal?" >> that's the right thing to do, start the process. consider a lot of people, a range of people, narrow it down
as you go along. she has time to make that decision. i'm sure she will do it the way she always does. very thoughtfully. >> handsome men. who could blame her. joel, thanks so much for being here. when bill cosby stands trial for criminal sexual assault, his own words could come back to haunt him. but the same could be said of his accuser. we'll breakdown both sides, when we come back. this family needed their windshield replaced but they're daughters heart was set on going to the zoo. so guess what, i met them at the zoo. service that fits your schedule. that's another safelite advantage. ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ "i'm tired." or, "i'm hungry." what if your body said something else might be wrong? gynecologic cancers - cervical, ovarian and uterine cancers - have symptoms. so pay attention. if your body says something may be wrong.... please listen if it goes on for two weeks,
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big news, the criminal sexual assault case against bill cosby will go to trial, both the prosecution and defense now have their work cut out. it could put cosby face-to-face with his accuser, in this case, andrea constand, for the first time in more than a decade. so let's discuss this with legal an cy analyst. mark garagis. how surprised are you by this event and what are you looking
for now? >> the only thing that i think was surprising is if you asked me to bet, i would have bet they would have put her on the stand at the preliminary hearing. i think it was surprising, and i think the defense was very frustrated by the fact that they had what is called a probable cause here without putting her on the stand so they couldn't cross-examine her. >> that's why they did it, to keep her clean for the main trial. what does that do in terms after a plus/minus strategically. >> i think it will hurt the prosecution, by not having a run through, by having her tested, they're gambling that when they put her up in front of a jury, she'll do well under cross examination. i always think continued and i hurts the prosecution, because witnesses, it is a daunting thing to be a witness in any courtroom to begin be, and then when you do it for the first time, you're in front of a jury
and you raise the stakes by having a high profile case, a witness can get nervous and it can be, i think, something that the prosecution will later come to regret in this case. >> well, how do you reconcile that with what is a little bit of a unique factor here, which is the idea that constand may not be alone? do you see that as motivation for her potentially? do you see other accusers coming into the mix here in the trial? do you think they'll make it past the judge's standard of prejudice versus probative value? >> look, i think that's going to be a huge battle in this case, as you've alluded to. but i think ultimately, most judges would let in at least three, four, five others to kind of bolster the prosecution case. why would you do that, why would that come in, they do it under the guise of a similar motive,
signature crime, and you'll probably remember the phil specter case in los angeles. they did the exact same thing. they paraded up four or five women who talked about him and the guns and everything else and here, you would presumably have four or five women who would get paraded up, talk about i had a drink with him, next thing i woke up, naked, felt like something happened. that kind of evidence is very powerful for juries. that's one of the reasons defense always fights so hard to keep it out. and frankly, one of the reasons judges usually let it in, because it is very, what they would call, probative towards someone. >> you have layered charges here, three main counts that really range the span of potential behavior. you have unwanted sexual assault by, you know, sexual assault, unwanted contact, while continuous. also while unconscious, and the act of rendering the defendant
incapable of consenting. how do you break those down? >> you know, actually you've given a great kind of a layout of the three different charges there, the three categories of charges. they all derive from at some level the giving of a drug, or giving of a substance that caused somebody to not be able, in this case, constand, not be able to give consent. and the reason this is so devastating for cosby is because of that deposition in the civil case, where he concedes that he was getting quaaludes, getting these drugs, and that was kind of the milieu back then when he was doing it, and giving that drug, even if she says i didn't say no, which is, that came up yesterday in the preliminary hearing, that that was one of the statements that she had made, it doesn't matter if the jury believes that she was given a drug, and that that drugs
withdrew her ability to give consent. so that's a very, very difficult hurdle for the defense to get over. >> this is going to be a really widely watched trial. it means so much to so many on both sides. counselor, i look forward to getting your counsel throughout thanks for being with us this morning. >> thanks, chris. sifting for clues in the final moments in the egyptair flight, captain sully sull sullenberger joins us. first, taking the dance world by storm, inspiring others along the way. in this edition of turning point, dr. sanjay gupta takes a look at how she has defined the odds, putting a different spin on dance. cerebral palsy didn't stop this dancer from living her dream in the spotlight. >> when i'm dancing, i feel like i'm flying.
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time now for the five things you need to know for your "new day." anti-trump protests turning violent in new mexico. demonstrators clashing with police, even breaking through the police barriers there. some destructing trump's speech. meantime, hillary clinton primary on june 7th in california, this, while bernie sanders is calling for a complete recanvassing of last week's kentucky primary. bill cosby for the first time facing a criminal trial. judge ruling there is enough evidence from accuser andrea constand to move forward with the trial. president obama is in japan for a summit with g 7 leaders. china will hit high with growing concerns about the slow down of the chinese economy and its ripple effect. and the tensions in the south china sea. fleet week kicks off today in new york city. the parade of ships setting sail
in new york harbor, coast guard and marine corps. go to cnn.com for the very latest. alisyn, have you ever been to fleet week? >> i have. i've covered it. it is fun and festive. >> i would love to go. i'm in town. >> maybe you and i should take a sf spin down there. girl's trip. let's do it. comedian sasha baron cohen is no fan of donald trump. the bad blood all started with a trademark mock interview that ended with trump walking off. cnn's jeannie mosse shows up. >> talk about a matchup. >> what is the most popular thing in the world? >> music. >> no. >> tell me. >> ice cream. >> it was back in the days when sacha baron cohen was pranking people with his dimwit rapper routine, everyone from the then secretary general of the u.n. --
>> disneyland a member of the u.n.? >> no. >> to buzz aldridge, second man to walk on the moon. >> what was it like not being the first man on the moon. were you ever jealous of louis armstrong. >> it was neil armstrong and no, i was not jealous. >> ice cream with trump. >> it is to come out with just like these ice cream gloves that make the ice cream not go on your hands. >> donald was polite, but didn't bite. >> well, that sounds like a good idea. i hope you make a lot of money. >> good luck, folks. >> with that trump walked off. showing less annoyance than others. >> okay, i think that's about it. >> the guy is an idiot. >> the other night, the idiot was asked about his encounter with trump. >> i was the first person to realize he is a [ bleeping ]. >> cohen says trump's interview lasted seven minutes. the donald tweeted i never fall for scams. i am the only person who immediately walked out of my ali
g interview. there has been bad blood between the donald and sacha baron cohen. trump called him a moron. >> cohen mockingly endorsed the donald, wearing a make america great hat at the premiere of his new movie, which feature ace trump character that contracts hiv. >> people are cheering. >> taking the gloves off, even if they are, ice cream gloves. >> good luck, folks. >> jeannie mosse, cnn, new york. >> the sun is too hot. >> the sun is too hot. it is not a good place to walk. that's what he said. >> they could have responded even more, you know, vehemently against him. it was reasonable. >> donald trump was tame in his response there. >> how bad did you feel for mick when she was interviewing sacha
baron cohen about the trump movie and how much fun he was having with the horrible things in the movie? i felt so bad for her that day. >> i felt worst for us because they kept saying they were coming to us and we were hiding. >> yes. >> any way, back to what matters. new details emerging in the egyptair crash investigation, but many questions remain. we're going to break it down with someone who knows a lot about flying, hero pilot, captain sully sullenberger is here. great to see you, captain. hey honey. huh. the good news is my hypertension is gone. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck.
the crash of egyptair flight 804 remains a mystery and a race against time to find the black boxes to get clues. there are conflicting reports this morning about the plane's final moments. joining us now, cbs safety aviation expert and captain sully sullenberger, successfully crash landed his plane in the hudson river back in 20089.
thanks for being here. >> good morning, ana. >> good morning. so we don't know what happened to this airplane, but we are getting a few pieces of information. we know that they have now recovered life vests, personal belongings, part of the wreckage and even small fragments of human remains. what is your gut tell you about what happened to this plane? >> let me set the stage for you. this is like trying to complete a large painting, one tiny fact, one tiny droplet of paint at a time. we collect only a handful initially. we only have a handful to work with, and they may be scattered throughout the canvas. as we gather more facts, more brush strokes, we look for patterns. ultimately at the end of the investigation, which may take a year or more, we will have brought in to clear focus the true picture of what happened. the investigators will learn, i'm convinced, not only what happened, and how it happened, but why it happened.
it is this painstaking process they must use to solve the deepest misteries. >> let me add more to the picture. >> okay. >> we also have clues about the alerts that were sent out from the plane's automated system. we know that the plane signalled problems with a heated window in the cockpit, smoke in the lavatory, smoke in the compartments, problems with the auto pilot, flight control system, yet the captain never alerted anybody of any problems. it was radio silence. how do you explain that? >> well, it is actually very easy. there are many reasons that might have happened. it's likely that with a sudden emergency, a sudden triggering event, pilots were doing what we're trained to do, and that is to fly the airplane first and begin to solve the problems, and only after you've made sure it
is being flown well enough, the situation is being handled, only then would you take time to communicate with air traffic control. because really, other than to alert rescue forces and begin what might be an hour long rescue effort to get resources to the scene, there is not much help that air traffic control can immediately render to a flight in crisis. it is really up to the crew on board to solve that until they can get on the ground and get more help. >> so you think it's possible they just didn't even v time to say we're going down, because they were so focused on trying to bring the plane down safely? >> probably trying to figure out what exactly was going wrong. with a miracle on the mud shuds flight, we saw the birds seconds before we hit them but not enough time to avoid them. we smelled the odor coming into the airplane from the engines. we had to go right who how do we
solve this problem and not a lot of time what caused this problem. it is likely if it was sudden, and it was kind of a nuance beginning to the emergency, they may not have known what was going on. it is also important to note, even though these were transmitted from the airplane, we don't know what alerts the crew might have received. we don't know what the crew saw or what they heard or smelled, for example. >> you know, the fact that the idea of this could have been a terrorist act came out so early in the conversation, from egyptian officials say more likely a terrorist attack than a failure of some sort. it speaks to the fear of people flying this day and age. as a captain yourself, do you have any reservations or would you have reservations flying a plane that originates in a city like paris or other cities in europe? >> i think it's just human nature in light of recent events and certain parts of the world to have that possibility, which is one of many, be in the
forefront of one's mind. they should be savvy, and as an aviation industry, we need to do much better about sharing intelligence and making air travel safer and secure. but we have to depend upon actual evidence. now, some walks of life, you know, feel like they have the luxury to shoot from the hip or jump to conclusions. but in aviation, we rely upon evidence to draw conclusions. that doesn't mean that we should wait until the investigation is complete to improve areas that we know need to be improved. but let me put this into perspective for the traveler. any individual is likely to face some much more routine risk in our everyday lives than exceptional and small risk of dying in a terrorist event. you know, if you are really concerned about your safety, and
sometimes it is hard for us to do this, but there are pedestrian ways that we can change our lives. >> right. >> tomorrow, we could choose for example not to use our phones in our cars and save more lives in one year than are lowest in aviation. >> thank you so much, captain chessly sully sullen berger joining us this morning. thank you for being with us on "new day." [phone rings] [man] hello,totten designs.
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good wednesday morning. i'm pamela brown in for carol costello. donald trump, the nomination, now within reach. the anger he inspires getting out of hand. anti-trump protesters unleash their furry. outside his rally to condemn his remarks on hispanics and immigrants, but soon turn on police. >> lots of protesters are throwing rocks at police. this is now into chaos. >> the political drama fades. trump scoops up more delegates