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has opened the pentagon to the group at the start of the memorial day weekend. well, thank you so much for joining me today. i'm pamela brown in for carol costello. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. we hit the 1,217. >> the unqualified loose cannon is within reach of the most important job of the world. >> here i am watching hillary fight, and she can't close the deal. >> donald trump has agreed to debate me. >> i'd love to debate bernie. >> we hope donald trump does not chicken out. >> hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. john berman is off today. the finish line has been crossed. the republican nomination locked in now one day after clinching the magic number of 1237, donald trump is headed to not ohio, not florida, the unlikeliest of
places, the democratic stronghold of california, and he's revealing what his general election game plan may look like. listen. >> what i'm going to do is i want to focus on 15 or so states because we have to win, and i want my energy to be put in the states where it could go either way, and we're going to play heavy as an example in california. now, no other republican would -- you know, they wouldn't even go to dinner in california. they wouldn't do it. >> all three presidential candidates are campaigning today in california, including trump, and if you think i misspoke just a second ago, let me repeat. he's not in battlegrounds like florida or ohio. he is in california today. cnn's dan simon is in fresno where the trump rally is going to be kicking off shortly, but first let me bring in national correspondent jason carroll for more on this. so donald trump, he was in montana last night when he made this announcement, 15 states he mentioned.
it's unclear unless you know better than me if it's just these 15, if that's in addition to kind of the traditional republican playbook. but lay it out. >> let's just say it this, there's a method to his madness. he's going to be getting resources into some of those traditional battleground states, places like florida, michigan, ohio, but he also wants to win the states that have traditionally gone blue. wants to turn them red. he has said repeatedly during rallies, i am going to win pennsylvania. he believes he can take places like california. he'll be focused on places like washington, new york as well. here is some of his problems. when it comes to some of those western states, places like california, he's going to have to do better with latino voters. he says he's polling well with them. the reality is he's not. it certainly doesn't help him when he goes after people like susana martinez, the governor of new mexico, very popular, a republican, a latina. he clearly is going to have some work out there to meet his goal of turning some of those blue states red. >> and a big part of turning
blue states red would be ground game, and that means money, and that means staff. >> and resources. and if you listen to what the campaign is saying, they are going to have resources in those battleground states, no surprise there. and he's got a good team behind him. he's got people like his campaign chairman, paul manafort, so he's got a team of people behind him who have certainly done it before. the question is, can they do it this time? >> the interesting part about it, the inside intrigue right now, is the person who would be making a lot of these hires, rick wiley, he was just fired after being on the campaign for just six weeks. >> six weeks, now he's out. they're going to have to bring someone else in, but trump will tell you, don't want to put words in the man's mouth, but trump will tell you he's a man who is used to running businesses, he can run a campaign. someone is not doing the job, what do you do? you get them out quickly and move someone in who can do the job. gee didn't really lay out all 15 of those states. we'll see. i'm sure he will be asked. great to see you, jason. >> you bet.
>> let's go to dan simon. he's in fresno. the crowd is already lining up. dan, i think you were in the middle it earlier this week when some of the rallies earlier this week were met with violent protests outside. what are you seeing so far this morning? >> reporter: well, hi, kate, we are just outside of the arena in press kn fresno where this group of protesters has gathered. it's a modest-sized crowd. maybe 50 or so. on the other side of the protesters, you can see the donald trump supporters filing into the arena. it's always an interesting dynamic with both sides basically yelling at each other. in terms of what we can see today, i'm joined by the chief of the fresno police department, chief jerry dire. i appreciate you joining me. tell me how you're preparing for this day. >> preparation has been all week, not only with personnel but with equipment, making sure we have plans in place, contingencies, a sufficient number of officers that will be in uniform and out of uniform
both innid and outside of the event. we also have a react team on stand by in the event we need that. as you can see the crowd is under 100 right now and we're monitoring very, very closely, and the goal for us today is to have a peaceful protest. that's the purpose of having the barricades to separate the trump supporters from the protesters, and we anticipate it's going to be a peaceful event, but we're prepared for the worst as well. >> when you say you're prepared, you have police officers in riot gear who will be out here? >> we have police officers that are fully equipped if they need to come in and address the crowd should things get violent. they have the ability to move crowds, and we also have the ability to deploy chemical agents should we need to, but we don't anticipate it, but, again, we're planning for that should the crowd get unruly. the main thing is making sure that at the onset when we start to see any type of behavior that's going to be inciting a riot, that we remove those individuals, and we will. we're not going to tolerate
violence in our city. >> reporter: chief jerry dieidy. thank you very much. they do not want to see a repeat of what they saw in albuquerque and anaheim this week. based on the crowd thus far, i'm not sure we'll see any problems but we will see how the day unfolds. >> absolutely. dan, thanks so much. let's discuss this right now. joining me now cnn political commentators kevin mannen, a senior official in mitt romney's campaign, patti solis doyle, a former hillary clinton president ideal campaign manager, van jones, and boris epstein, a republican strategist and donald trump campaign surrogate. guys, thanks so much for joining me. so, kevin, back to where we began this show, try this playbook on for size as someone who was part of mitt romney's campaign. a republican campaign taking on california and new york. they're going to focus there along with some other unlikely states. was that under consideration for
mitt moromney? >> no. one of the big challenges is the voters donald trump appeals to the most, middle-class white voters, where they are most prevalent in places like california, in the central valley, there's not enough of those voters to make that a strong play. where donald trump is weakest, minority populations, suburban voters, women voters, those populations are dominant in many of those states like california, like new york. if you couple that with the fact that donald trump is behind on building the infrastructure that you need to build in order to prosper in some of those states where the democrats have had a natural advantage both electorally and i think with the infrastructure for probably a decade, it makes it a very sizable challenge. >> mitt romney got 27% of the latino vote in the general election. they don't think they need to surpass that number. do you agree with that?
>> i wouldn't agree with that. if you look at the share of the white vote, it has declined pretty steadily over the last few years and the projected share -- the percentage of the projected white vote in 2016 probably going to be closer to 69% whereas in 2000 when we last saw president bush win his first election, it was 78%. so we're seeing an electorate that's getting more and more diverse, so you have to do a much better job of competing amongst those minority voters. i would expect a republican candidate in 2016 would probably need somewhere in the area of about 40% of the hispanic vote to be competitive on election day. >> that is a big number. that is some big room for improvement. patti, you ran a campaign. donald trump thinks he can make a play in some of these states. i mean, a democrat -- i guess we can say really hasn't had a lot of competition in some of these states in decades. should hillary clinton or whomever the democratic nominee be nervous? >> well, no, and it's really for all the reasons that kevin just said, and just to sort of
amplify what he said in terms of hispanic voters, donald trump is not only -- does he not only have a huge deficit, but he's also inspiring hispanics to register to vote and he's also inspiring people to become naturalized citizens if they're eligible just for the opportunity to vote against him. so i think if pla-- in places l california, it's going to crucify donald trump. i don't think he has a chance at all? >> that's a big word. >> it is a big word. but as you say, two folks who have been very senior people in campaigns, they do not think this is smart strategy. they don't think this is anywhere he should be spending his time. as a trump supporter, do you think this is a good use of his resources? >> of course. there's over five months left until the election and these are real opportunities in big states that have not gone republican in a long time but did in 1988, california voted republican. in '84 new york went republican. so it's a point to note that, and so as we look at the whole election, new york is a home state for trump. california is a state where
hillary clinton is now doing very badly against bernie sanders. you have seen numbers that a lot of those sanders supporters are not necessarily going to be going behind clinton if she's the nominee, which we could presume right now. again, with five months to the election, smart people on the trump campaign are making the calculation that it's good to go there, and listen, let's be honest, donald trump is driving the campaign. he believes that his natural charisma and his message will be appealing to voters in california and new york and you have to take him at his word. he's done well so far. >> maybe california is going to get a lot more attention than they have in cycles past. van, you know california. they are all in california today. as boris was talking about, he thinks hillary clinton is doing very badly against bernie sanders right now. if you take a look at the headlines, the headline in "new york times" today, california looking less like a sure thing for hillary clinton. how ugly do you think it's going to get in the primary that she's still in over the next -- well now we're less than two weeks
away. >> well, first of all, let me just say that donald trump has about the same chance of winning california that hillary clinton has of winning mississippi. it's just completely absurd that he would even -- >> so you say she's got a chance. >> a lot of the gop establishment said that about the primary overall and they were proven very wrong. >> good point, boris. >> that's true but that doesn't mean if i say grachi igravity wt i'm wrong. people were wrong about how extreme the republican primary voters had gotten. that doesn't mean that you can flip the math in a state like california. >> he's appealing a lot to his moderates and independents as well. >> yeah. that's just not going to happen, but to your point. >> that's your opinion. >> -- about bernie -- listen, can i finish? i didn't interrupt you at all. >> keep going. >> the problem with the trump people is they have the same no manners and no class of their candidate. let people finish their comment. you get a chance to speak when i'm doing. >> i am going to be the manners judge at this dinner table. van jones, you have the floor.
>> thank you. so when it comes to sanders versus hillary here in california, i think that bernie is coming on, and i think that there's still this hope i think among a lot of the sanders people that a very, very strong showing here in california might change the minds of some of the superdelegates. it's a very odd strategy for a populist candidate to sort of hang his last hat on the superdelegates that he didn't like earlier in the thing, but i think hillary clinton is going to have a very, very tough run here in california. i think it's surprising a lot of people, but you have a lot of young voters here. you have a lot of very, very strong progressives, especially in northern california, and i think it's going to be a nail-biter right to the end. >> one thing that also isn't going away is this conversation now about donald trump versus bernie sanders in a debate. i'm still not sure if it's a joke or if it's serious, kevin, but would you have advised mitt romney to get into that boxing ring?
>> well, if it was bernie sanders i would have loved that contrast. i think that's one of the reasons that donald trump wants it. what i think excites most trump supporters is this idea that donald trump is unafraid to have this flash of political civilizations, the right versus the left. and bernie sanders would offer that perfect sort of, you know, emblematic symbol of what many of his strongest supporters, donald trump that is, believe is wrong with the country, that, you know, we're moving towards socialism and i think in a debate like that where it would be pure entertainment and it would be more "american idol" than it would be c span, that donald trump would flourish. so i think that's something that -- that's one of the reasons why you see so much of this chatter right now about it. >> i'll leave you this to ponder as we head to commercial braeea. what does hillary clinton do that week? does she watch? >> she watches. >> that's right, patti. just like the rest of us, she watches. >> a lot of the bernie
supporters will go to trump. that's why it's good to have that debate. >> we'll see. donald trump says debating bernie sanders would be a dream, his words, but some democrats like let's say a former secretary of state who is also a former senator from new york who is also married to a former president, she might think of it more as a nightmare. and one of her top supporters is calling bs on the whole thing as they try to unite the party. plus, they were bitter rivals. that's an understatement. but now donald trump may be leading the draft marco movement telling him he should run for his senate seat once again. you cannot make this stuff up. we're going to hear from marco rubio ahead. and while trump and clinton battle historically high disapproval ratings, another party is plotting a way to win over voters. right now the libertarian party is holding its convention. where their pick could be a player this sickle. ycle.
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fight. >> you made it possible for us to have a very interesting debate. >> that's right. >> about two guys who look at the world very, very differently. >> oh, boy, do you guys look at it differently. that would be some debate. i mean, i really think it might be one of the highest rated events in television history. >> well, i think, you know, the goal would be to have it in some big stadium here in california. >> yeah. that would be great. >> but at the very same time, some democrats are getting awfully angry at sanders challenging trump to a debate this late in the game. senator joe manchin calls it bs. let's bring in bernie sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver for more. jeff, thanks for coming in. >> happy to be here. i'm sure by bs he means bernie sanders. >> maybe.
i just can't say it. minute chin calls bs, the otherb s, not the bernie sanders, saying this is not bringing the party together. what do you say to joe manchin? >> well, i think joe manchin is absolutely wrong. look, this process is moving along. there have been some communication between the campaigns, a number of networks have put forward proposals including some that would put seven-figure amounts into charity. you know this, seems to meet the parameters of what donald trump suggested he'd be willing to do. there's a little bit of foot dragging now it seems on their side. it may be that, you know, there may be some chickening out or, you know, an unwillingness to stand on stage and really debate with bernie sanders because they know bernie sanders is going to do quite well in that debate, frankly. >> what do you mean by foot-dragging, jeff? >> well, you know, i think there was some initial conversations, and i think, you know, those have sort of slowed down a little bit. i think as we all know there's a little bit, and you have reported it, there's a little bit of disarray in their
campaign and there may be different views in their campaign about whether this should go forward or not but we would hope donald trump would keep to his word, that it wasn't just bluster or flimflam, that he, in fact, really wants to have this debate. senator bernie sanders is fully prepared to debate wherever, whenever in california, and we'd like to see that go forward. i think the american people would like to see it go forward. i think frankly you'd get 35, 40, 45 million people watching this. it might be one of the biggest television events of the year. >> when you say i hope he doesn't chicken out, i think you also said i hope he has the courage to get on the debate stage. are you taunting him is ? >> the question is does the trump campaign have the fortitude to get on the stage with bernie sanders one-on-one in front of tens of millions of americans and defend his vision of america where he wants to give tax breaks to the rich, where he thinks wages are too high, climate change is a hoax made up by the chinese against
bernie sanders who wants to deal with wealth and inequality and a kor runt campaign finance system? he prepared to defend himself against bernie sanders with those views which on substance are wildly unpopular? it may become increasingly clear he's not willing to do that. >> he will we wisee. also happening, i want to play for our viewers another bit of the conversation between kimmel and bernie sanders. >> i have a clip i'd like to play it for you just to get your reaction to it. >> you get into the gem election if you're the nominee for your party -- >> i will be the nominee for my party, chris. that is already done in effect. there is no way that i won't be. >> does that make you mad seeing that? >> just a tinch arrogant i think there. >> they laughed but how is she being arrogant? >> well, look, the contest is far from over. we're going to have a bunch of big primaries and caucuses coming up over the next week and
a half, including california which has 475 delegates. the polls there are closing rapidly as the secretary had a wide lead in california. that's evaporated. bernie sanders has a tremendous amount of momentum in california going forward, and, look, the truth of the matter is as i have said many times on this show and others, when this process is over, neither candidate will have the requisite number of pledged delegates. i know a bunch of networks at 5:00 p.m. on the 7th will say she's the presumptive nominee based on their poll of superdelegates, but superdelegates don't vote until we get to the convention and there's a lot going on out in the world as you well know because you cover it every day, and things change very quickly in american politics. so let's see what happens on the 7th and then let's go to the convention and see where everything comes down, and if the superdelegates at the end of the day stay with the secretary, she will get the nomination. if they don't, she won't. that's really -- >> jeff, we're talking about math. she was talking about math. she was alluding to the math in that interview with chris cuomo.
if that's arrogant to be talking about it, it's mathematically impossible for bernie sanders to reach the number needed in pledged delegates plus superdelegates by the time all of the voting is closed. that math is fact. hillary clinton is less than 80 away. you could have -- she could even have that number before california polls are closed come june 7th. if that's arrogant for her to be saying that mathematically she will be the nominee, is it equally as arrogant to be staying in the race if it's mathematically impossible to clirve clinch it? >> but it's not mathematically impossible to clinch. you can do a poll in california today and make estimate on what the delegates will be on election day, but until we have the final election you don't know the outcome. that's the same with the superdelegates. some may have indicated a preference. hundreds indicated a preference before they knew bernie sanders was in the race. but they won't actually vote until they get to the
convention. >> but arrogance? was that the right word to use? >> i think it was not just the statement but the demeanor. i think it was -- i might have used the word presumptuous but i think it's too early in the process for the secretary to feel like she's locked it up. there's millions of people left to vote in this process. their votes should count. they should have a say in this process and then the superdelegates, whose job it is to make sure we nominate the strongest candidate in the fall to beat donald trump and the rest of the republicans, you know, they'll have an opportunity to take a second look at this race once the voting is done in the various states and territories and the district of columbia. so it's not over until it's over and we won't know what the final vote is in terms of who will be the nominee until we get to the convention. >> bernie sanders is in it says his campaign manager jeff weaver. jeff, thank you very much. >> in it to win it. >> in it to win it. have a very good weekend, jeff. thank you very much. >> take care. still ahead, he called donald trump a con artist. he called donald trump a fraud. but now marco rubio says he'd speak at the convention if
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>> june 24th. >> june 12424th. >> it's a joke. >> i know it's a joke, but would you ever? >> you know, it's interesting. if my term had ended in 2018 instead of 2016, i might very well have run for re-election. one of the things that bothered me the most was that article, it still bothers me in october saying marco rubio hates the senate. someone who knows me really well told me so. i've never said that. i hated the way harry reid ran the senate. i was frustrated at the way the senate was operating. but this is one of the great blessings i have had -- >> so why are you leaving? >> i believed if you run for president you're running for president you're not saying to yourself or your team we're going to be in this race, but, guys, remember i don't want to leave the senate so if things don't start working out well we need to get out of this race as quickly as possible so i can get back to -- >> i guess that is your position -- >> and the other is, look, i have a real good friend i have known for a long time who is running for the senate. i said i wasn't going to. he got into the race.
he's a lieutenant governor of florida. i think he's a strong candidate. he's in the race. i'm not -- i think he's put in time and energy to it and he deserves the chance to see where he can take it. >> if you didn't have a friend running, might you reconsider? >> maybe. >> but he's an actual friend, not a politics friend. >> i have known him since the dole campaign in '95-'96 as college students. so -- but, sure, maybe. i enjoyed my work in the senate. i always did. >> hmm. manu raju is live with me from washington. i see that smile on your face, manu. you have been doing a lot of reporting about that senate race specifically. and for our viewers they should know that marco rubio, he spoke with jake tapper, this was before donald trump seemed to jump on the bandwagon with the tweet run, marco. what do you make of what rubio said? >> well, it's a shift, kate, and it's a notable shift. remember, he shut the door firmly when he was running for president saying he would be a
private citizen if he lost the white house. but in recent days republicans have really started to panic about the florida senate seat. party leaders see their candidates there as flawed. they haven't been able to raise much money. it's a very, very expensive state. democrats are spending $20.5 million already. those candidates are not really well known. the republicans have to spend tens of millions in other states to keep the majority. so actually yesterday the pressure got really intense. majority leader mitch mcconnell told his senate republican colleagues at a private lunch that if they wanted marco rubio to run, that they should go and lobby him directly, and that is exactly what they're doing right now. the head of the national republican senatorial committee told cnn that after he spoke with rubio on the floor, it's within the realm of possibility that rubio may run, and donald trump of all people tweeting last night that rubio should help save that seat. all forcing rubio to think about this a little harder even if he says it's unlikely.
>> june 24th. that date might be marked on his calendar somewhere. there is a bit of irony here as well, and i know you know it as well, manu, that the reason that he wouldn't run for re-election of his senate seat is because of his very good friend running in the race as well. that did not stop marco rubio from running against another one of his friends for president, jeb bush. >> that's right. but i'm told in this situation it's highly unlikely rubio would run if lopez cantera, the lieutenant governor of florida doesn't step aside. i'm not getting the sense that lopez cantera will drop out. even if he did, rubio still would have to begin raising a lot of money, have to worry about the other candidates in the primary field, plus rubio lost florida big to trump and he's been criticized for missing many, many senate votes when he was running for president and if he wants to run for president again in 2020 if trump loses, it may not make sense for him to run for re-election. so those are all big things that rubio has to consider between now and june 24th, kate. >> that door is not so much slammed anymore.
opening up ever so slightly. manu, it's great to see you. thank you. >> thanks, kate. back with me now to discuss is boris epshteyn and kevin madden. what was going through your head when you were watching that? >> if you were to do a political translation of what he said -- >> yes, please. >> in politics maybe means i really want to get to yes. when somebody says maybe i want to be president, maybe i would be considered for a vice presidential ticket, that means they want it. and so -- but i do think that there is -- i think there is a genuine -- he's genuinely struggling with the idea of having his friend there. to the point you were talking about with manu, i think senatorial ambitions are very different from presidential ambitions. >> good point. >> having been there, i think he's much more willing to have his lieutenant governor friend make the decision and he's genuinely struggling with that. >> that's a fair and very important point. kevin, kate bolduan you're wrong
is what kev juin just said to m. donald trump is now the president of the draft marco movement. this is the same man who said rubio could not be elected dog catcher in florida. as a trump supporter, do you like that donald trump is now saying he wants marco to run for re-election? >> absolutely. it was a tough primary, a spirited contest, but now the party is coalescing, coalescing behind donald trump and donald trump is returning the favor, right? and he had said that even in the night when rubio dropped out, trump gave a nice speech and said something to the effect that this was a very difficult race but it's a tough race and it's tough to run for president so i'm not surprised. but what is interesting is how much affect just one tweet from donald trump has, right? >> that's not a surprise anymore, please. >> it's not a surprise but -- >> sad but true. >> i think it's great. it's speaks to the strength of the candidate and the fact that money is not as much of a necessity in this race as it is in others because he's getting so much publicity just by
sitting on his couch and tweeting or wherever he was. >> there's political expedience here as well though. donald trump runs weakest with hispanics. he's going to need marco rubio to bring out the hispanic vote. without him on the ballot, donald trump is in trouble. >> he's in california now, he doesn't need florida. i'm kidding. there is a very -- there is more to this. >> and the other thing too is one of the big, you know, ingredients here that marco rubio is frontally wrestling with is the idea of having to raise $20 million between now and the election. now, he has $2 million in debt. he could probably wipe that away and he has a very sizable audience of folks that are now big rubio supporters that will open up their wallets and hopefully support minimum for a senate race but those are serious challenges. >> i need to get your take because another part of jake's interview is fascinating. i will play this quick for our
viewers. this is marco rubio and jake tapper talking about the gop convention. >> donald trump asked you to speak on his behalf, you would do so? >> i'd certainly -- yeah. i want to be helpful. i don't want to be harmful because i don't want hillary clinton to be president. if there's something i can do to help that from happening and it's helpful to the cause, i'd most certainly be honored to be considered for that. >> just because we can, let's take a quick walk down memory lane. watch this. >> what the we are dealing with here, my friends, is a con artist. he is a con artist. he has spent his entire career sticking it to the little guy. and this guy bankrupts a casino. how do you bankrupt a casino? this is a con job. he's never faced any struggle. donald trump was the first guy that begged for secret service protection. if he had not inherited $200 million he would be selling watches in times square. >> commander in chief cannot be someone who thinks that nuclear triad is a rock band. we have a con artist as the front runner the republican
party. friends do not let friends vote for con artists. >> but, yeah, i'll speak on his behalf of the convention? what? >> yeah. look, this was -- this is emblematic of some of the struggles many republicans are going through right now, particularly our elected officials. that some of the things that they said inside the course of a primary, they're now in an effort to try to unify the party for a general election, they're singing a different tune. but it is something that i think that you're going to continue to see where you have past statements that are being challenged by current statements, and, you know, that is something that i think we're just going to continue to see more of. >> i guess we're going to have to because there are a lot of statements that were made in that primary you'll remember. boris, kevin -- >> bush/mccain primary was very tough too. >> not as tough as that. >> small hands, wetting the pants? that did not happen -- >> there's a lot worse -- >> don't underestimate the unifying force of hillary
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live in orlando with much more on this. so, ryan, what is happening there this weekend? what are you hearing? >> reporter: kate, libertarian party members here are really enthusiastic. they think they have a historic opportunity in this 2016 election because of exactly what you were talking about, the overall dissatisfaction with hillary clinton and donald trump as the nominees of the two major parties, and the libertarian party in particular has an opportunity because they are the only alternative party that will be on the ballot in all 50 states, and as a result their candidates are popping up in polls. a recent new fox news poll shows that gary johnson, who is their nominee four years ago, is at 10% in a match yuch again-up agd trump and hillary clinton. gary johnson is the front-runner but he has some work to do. he's running against two candidates who have pretty big bases of support here as well so they're going to hash this out over the next couple of days. they hope to emerge with a
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donald trump says the full accounting on his veterans fundraiser which he skipped the debate in january for will now be revealed on monday. his campaign boasted the $6 million was raised but the exact amount and the groups in line to receive it remain a bit of a mystery for months. cnn's drew griffin has been digging for months as well. donald trump called you last night. what happened? >> we'd been nagging the campaign for the figures. he said a couple of things. the figure will be very close to, if not, $6 million. he says he will release a full accounting of that on monday. now, his campaign staff told me it would take place tuesday but he insisted it would be monday, memorial day. and asked for why this is taking so long, he doesn't think it took that long but says some of the checks were not coming in from people who pledged so he had to remind people of their pledge and he said it's perfectly understandable these are very busy people, some even
located located overseas but the checks in, kate, and expect a full accounting of that to take place monday which, of course, memorial day. >> that's right. and he pledged money himself. it makes me wonder when you talk about the phone call, the fact he got on the phone with you about it. about these questions, it sure seems this has gotten under his skin. did you talk about it? did he say why this bothers him so much? >> he complained about the media coverage of this. saying i'm the only guy that can raise $6 million for a good cause and then get criticized over it. i try to explain, it's not that. he made a huge deal out of this, and then a mystery where this money was going. i think he understands both sides of this, and using his advantage both sides. he'll complain about the media coverage and then get positive media coverage when and if he releases this money.
he gave $1 million check to a charity, a very good charity, i might add, that supports the kids of fallen marines and fallen federal law enforcement officers. that check from donald trump is in the bank at that one charity. >> we'll learn more on monday. or maybe tuesday. we'll see. >> who knows? >> we'll find out. drew, great to see you. >> thank you. it is becoming a new familiar scene. anti-trump protesters gather outside of a rally in california while lines are forming as well for his supporters to head into the rally. the police chief there says they are prepared for the worst. we'll take you live coming up. ♪ what are you doing? sara, i love you, and... [phone rings] ah, it's my brother. keep going... sara, will you marry... [phone rings again] what do you want, todd???? [crowd cheering]
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