good morning, welcome to a special memorial day edition of "new day." it's monday, may 30th. 6:00 in the east. please, take a moment to remember all those who gave their lives for ours. and we begin with tropical storm bonnie, soaking the carolinas. creeping up the east coast. gusting winds and dangerous rip currents. we've already seen water rescues and levels so high some roads including stretches of internate -- interstate 95 had to be closed. and flooding in texas and parts of kansas that have killed at least six people. the weather another complication for holiday travelers already worried about long lines at airports after a computer crash at one of the country's busiest airports. we have all of the angles covered for us. first up, cnn's meteorologist jennifer gray, how's it looking
in north carolina? >> reporter: a gorgeous morning in hilton head, south carolina, but the past few days anything bulls. we were in charleston for several days and the rain came down beginning late saturday and continued all k e ed all day ye traveling from charleston who here year, speak stuck on i-95 for hours, as it was closed all day as people detoured to get around the flood. so bonnie was just the beginning. we had wild weather across the country over the weekend. this morning, rescue crews in parts of the south continuing to search for those it swept away by the deadly flash floods over the weekend. >> we just hope it doesn't rise anymore. >> reporter: the rushing water envelopes cars and homes after
record-dropping rain. the city of brenham, two people killed by the flied inundated with more than 18 inches of rainfall within 48 hours. >> it doesn't take much water to cause injury. >> reporter: the floods in texases killing tleef ining at people. according to cnn affiliate kprc, the caption, all i wanted to do was go home. the national gourdsman swept away not long after. a few hours northwest of houston, the search is still ongoing for a 10-year-old boy who slipped and fell into this swollen river. in the east, tropical depression bonnie, dampening holiday plans for millions in the carolinas. the system stalling near char s charleston with 30 mile-per-hour winds and unto four inches of rainfall. along south carolina's beaches
the storm creating surf are conditions that could be life threatening. lifeguards already rescues at least a dozen over the weekend. >> a lot of rip currents. the undertoe is pretty strong. we're just keeping people at knee deep. there's no swimming allowed right now. >> reporter: so, alisyn, people definitely able to salvage their memorial day. the weather definitely improving today. of course, rip currents will continue to be a problem points north from here especially as that storm continues to track to the north. alisyn? >> good reminder, jennifer, about rip currents, because it does look beautiful, starting to be beautiful where you are. thanks so much for all of has. so where is tropical depression bonnie headed next? we get to meteorologist chad myers for a look at your memorial day forecast. moving up into north carolina and eventually new york city, not with the center of circulation but we'll see rainfall into new york all day today. not a picnic kind of day, but bonnie down near charleston and
myrt myrtle beach and eventually raleigh, spreading rainfall and rip currents that onshore wind pushes water to the shore and all of a sudden that water la to go back offshore. that's the weather that can push you offshore, if you're caught in those currents. here's what the future radar looks like. bad news, philly, d.c., it city up to providence seeing heavy rainfall today and maybe hoping for better weather for a picnic but maybe it needs to be under the shelter. see if it's not too laid to reserve that shelter, because you just might need it. the rest of country, no the that bad. temperatures in the 60s, 70s and 80s. 85 degrees in spots across the northeast and 86 in miami. 80 in washington, d.c. run between the rain drops, try to enjoy your day, but it will be wet at times. >> all right, seth, thank you -- seth? chad myers. thinking seth myers instead of chad myers.
>> he's just at funny. >> you bring us information he can't. information we need. one of the busiest travel days of the year and a lot of you watching in airports and it may not be a great day. one of the toughest travel days. you have long delays coming, because of the weather, also because of a computer crash at jfk airport in new york. so this might be some nightmare over the next 24 hours. cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh tracking the latest developments live from washington. what do we know, my friend? >> reporter: we know the problem started yesterday, chris. this computer crash is causing significant delays. that's according to the airport. passengers have to be manually checked in because of this glitch. the failure, though, is only affecting one terminal, terminal 7, operated by british airways, but delays at such a major hub like jfk can cause ripple effects at other airports. at last check, the issue not
resovped. 1,500 passengers waiting to be checked in. the busiest time of travel. heading into the summer season. about 231 million passengers are expected to fly over the next few weeks. so when you have a situation like that, a downed computer, checking people in manually it makes for a very nightmarish situation. alisyn? >> it sure does. thanks for that reporting. let's talk about politics. a lot happening overed weekend. donald trump spending the holiday rallying veterans at a rolling thunder biker event in the nation's capital. trump also taking aim at a new target on twitter after a cryptic messaging a a third-party candidate. let's go live to washington and cnn's sara murray. it's been an intriguing weekend thus far, sear ra. >> reporter: absolutely right, alisyn. donald trump make the trek to washington, d.c. to honor vets and he's been settling into this role as the presumptive republican nominee, all of it
comes as he may face a host of new challengers. >> we're going to rebuild our military, and we're going to take care of our veterans. >> reporter: donald trump making the case to veterans at the annual rolling thunder motorcycle rally, a tribute to the armed forces. >> illegal immigrants are taking much care, really, taking much better care by this country than our veterans, and that's not going to happen. >> reporter: trump, insisting the undocumented immigrants he plans to deport are treated better than veteran, and after months of scrutiny, also promising to explain where the $6 million he said he raised for veterans' charities went. >> we're announcing on tuesday all of the groups that we put up this money and raised a tremendous amount of money, because we love the vets. >> reporter: this as the presumptive nominee is battling new efforts to derail his presidential campaign. "weekly standard" editor bill kristol teasing a possibly independent party tweeting,
there be will about independent candidate, an impressive one with a strong team. trump unleashing a saer ining s tweets calling him a dummy. >> a complete disaster, handing over white house to the democrats. >> reporter: the libertarian party also locking down their ticket, selecting two former republican governors. new mexico's gary johnson and massachusetts' bill weld, to challenge both parties' candidates, especially trump. >> taking him on when he says that mexicans are murderers and rapists, when, it's inincendiar on what it really racist. it's just racist. >> reporter: now the trump campaign is staying lasered focused on the clinton. >> trouble following the clintons everywhere. people are frustrated with all the drama around the clinton family. if they're going to be back in the political venue, then their history is relevant to what the
american people can expect. >> reporter: now, that rolling thunder motorcycle rally over the weekend is specifically designed to remember people taken as prisoners of war or listed as missing in action. of course, donald trump has an interesting record after last year criticizing john mccain saying i prefer people who weren't captured. despite that, he seemed to get a pretty warm reception here in washington. >> sara, stay with us. bringing in senior contributor for "the daily caller" matt lewis and senior editor of "the atlantic" professor ron brownstein. great to have you all here with us on memorial day. matt, let me ask you something, as the resident partisan -- the idea of veterans getting better treatment than undocumented immigrants here does make you angry, frustrating to hear. true? >> i don't know if it's true or not, but clearly if you look at the v.a. scandal, the way we've treated our veterans, and the
lack of attention that they've gotten, there's a huge problem, and, you know, i think we would probably, especially on this day, agree with donald trump on something, and that is that we need to take better care of the men and women who serve this country. >> right, but that's not what he's saying. he's saying they get treated better than the veterans. how? >> i just think the two -- the two things are not i don't think, should be really conflated. this is an attempt for him -- >> i know. that's what i'm asking you. >> right. i think, if i were donald trump i would stick to the message of taking better care of our veteran, and point to the failures of the obama administration, which are pretty easy to point out in terms of the v.a. scandal. i don't think you need to talk about immigrants, and illegal immigrants to make that point. >> talk about the third party and intriguing tweet bill crystal send ovcris krystal put out over the
weekend. just a heads up over this holiday weekend. there will be an independent candidate, and impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance. ron, help us parse this. who's he talking about? >> we don't know. look, an impressive team and impressive candidate will be in the eye of the beholder. the problem for the third-party candidacy is twofold. one, you have very few true swing states. only five states decided by five points or more. most states lean decisively one way or the other. if you run as a third party you have a risk, even if you do well, you'd finish second to the democrats and blue states and second to republicans and red states. much harder to win votes and the other thing, the republican base is largely accepting the argument in a binary system, you have no choice but to consolidate around your party's nominee. still have an incredible dissidence at the elite level. the republican mayor of miami in the "new york times" this
morning described donald trump as a bully who despises people who don't look like him. that is unprecedented that you continue to hear that kind of language for the presumptive leaders in the party. for rank and file voters, the train may have already left an audience in terms of this third party. >> and rhetoric. everything is new here. >> conventional wisdom is not applying at the moment. >> exactly right. sara, we have trump's response to kristol, right? he came at somebody who came at him. here what he had to say. >> i'll read it. >> please. >> if dummy bill kristol gets a person to run, say good-bye to the supreme court. >> that's how he plays politics. but does it plmatter we have a libertarian party to put someone on the ballot? over half the electorate says they're open to a third choice.
now gary johnson, former new mexico governor, bill weld, former massachusetts governor had to go two ballots to get it done, but only register at like 10%, and they make the argument, well, we don't do well because we don't get into the polls because we're not at 15% and it's a circular problem. what is the potential impact? >> hard to say they'll have a big impact. we learned from primaries, republican voters, even those who didn't like trump, looked at alternatives and didn't feel they have an actual path to victory, could actually win, they didn't vote for though candidates. we had a number of candidates who stayed in the primaries even though they had no direct path and they dpev never got traction. people didn't want to think they were wasting their votes on a spoiler candidate but backing someone who could actually win, that their vote meant something. that sentiment i don't think will change overnight just because we're shifting into a general election. people will still evaluate these candidates and say, can one of
these win? hard to say a libertarian will pull that off. >> matt, talking about how "the washington post" has been looking to are documents related to trump university for an investigation they're doing, and a judge has now said that he will allow these documents to be released to "the washington post." donald trump is not happy about that and has gone after that judge. so listen to what he said over the weekend. >> they have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. a hater. he's a hater. his name is -- gonzalo cukuril. i think the mexicans will end up loving donald trump when i give all of these jobs. >> okay. so that judge is american. was born in the united states, and, you know harks a long sort of impressive history. what's donald trump doing there, matt? >> well, look, i think this is a mistake that he's doing. i mean, it's one thing to say,
we have a judge. we think he's biased against us. we think that, you know, the fix is in, but to bring his background, and we think he's mexican. haven't even done the due diligence to make sure that he is, to bring has up is utterly irrelevant, especially -- you know, in our system where a judge obviously should be impartial, and so i think it's a mistake to invoke that, to bring that up, and we all -- look, we know that donald trump scored points early on by saying these kinds of things but i think we've obviously reached a point of diminishing returns, and the hope that he's going to pivot at some point rhetorically is passed us, i think, but this is just more of the same. it's divisive. really, if you look at the, sort of the underpinnings of what this does is, it delegitimizes our entire process. i think it's irresponsible rhetoric for him. having said that, i don't think the public is ultimately going
to care whether or not trump university turned out to have been a sham. i think that's one of the things that we talk about that nobody really cares about. >> panel, hold on. >> real quick -- i mean to use the parties for a personal vendetta is extraordinary and to describe the judge as a mexican, born in indiana, as you say, to point to his race is also -- this is way beyond the boundaries of what is normal political discourse in the u.s., and to kind of treat it as though it is normal, i think, would be a tremendous error. >> okay. panel, please, stick around. more to talk to you about. first, the newly mint the libertarian candidate gary johnson will be live here on "new day" tomorrow, and next hour today we will speak with his running mate william weld about their bid for the presidency. >> all right. so memorial day is the no going to turn out to be a holiday for bernie sanders. he's hitting the campaign trail hard in california not giving up
on winning the nomination but not saying no to being hillary clinton's running mate. that's interesting. cnn washington correspondent joe johns live in washington with more. they had danced around this in several of our interviews that they were going for the big seat, the brass ring. they're not talking about v.p., but now, a little bit of a shift? >> reporter: yeah. non-committal, but still says he's knocking his brains out to win the nomination, and after that we'll see. so to be continued. as the rates for the california primary continues, bernie sanders also tweaking his message this memorial day weekend. on the one hand, repeating hi mantra that he is firmly against a donald trump presidency, but also suggests that if front-runner hillary clinton wants party unity and wants the support of eers supporters he's says it's her job to make that happen. >> my job, make sure donald trump doesn't become president
and i will do that. but if hillary clinton becomes president it is her job to make the case why she going to defend working families and the middle class, provide health care to all people, take on wall street, deal aggressiveliry climate chan change. that is the candidate's job to do. >> reporter: also sanders tweaked the message he used over the weekend regarding a private e-mail on servers when she was secretary of state. he talked a little about the recent inspector general report about the matter that was highly critical of hillary clinton saying it wasn't a good report for the secretary and said the american people and delegates to the democratic national convention are going to have to take a hard look at it. >> joe, thanks for that. with the final critical primaries just eight days away, is hillary clinton struggling to find her footing? what's her new plan to defeat donald trump? can a toothpaste do everything well?
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clinton and bernie sanders. sanders is defiantly staying in the race and there are concerns now whether clinton is taking the right approach for a matchup with donald trump. so let's discuss all of this with our panel matt lewis, ron brownstein and sara murray. sara, pundits think that hillary clinton has sort of, is struggling with her footing and to find a voice in this strange election against donald trump, and that she's using an old playbook, may have worked with bill clinton but donald trump is playing with warfare never before seen. is that how it feels in washington? >> it feels like that on the campaign trail and in washington. the clintons have run a pretty traditional playbook so far. you can tell that. when donald trump throws out a remark like crooked hillary and economic suggestions that don't make sense the clinton team responds with a five-page e-mail
detailing why it doesn't make any sense and why donald trump is not qualified to be president and we're living in a different media cycle, a sound bite driven cycle and donald trump can change the story not only every day but every couple of hours and i think the clinton campaign is trying to figure out how to navigate it. >> we take the bait and voters take the bait and laying out plans, the "how" questions and ron brownstein, he's doing something that works well. the stink around the clintons, as he calls it, is resonating once again. so the question becomes, do you just ignore it or do you ignore it at your own peril? when i asked this to secretary clinton she gave an answer that is like what we have heard her say consistently, which is basically, i don't know what to do. that's what it is. she said we're not going to go there. i'm going to run a positive campaign but don't seem to have a direct answer. >> she said not i don't know
what to do but i'm not going to dignify it. >> in politics, it's not usually dignity that wins. it's what's most effective. >> they are struggling, i feel, how to deal with donald trump just like they struggled how to deal with bernie sanders. the fact is, hillary clinton beat bernie sanders over 3 million votes, add up the primaries and caucuses yet he seems to have driven the debate particularly in the last several months. if you turn on the ste televisi over overshadowed by bernie sanders and donald trump. in-o -- they're in no better shape now than at the beginning of the primary. the fundamental things apply. that donald trump essentially alienated and antagonized what amounts to a ma jompjority of t country. the democratic committee, remember, they've won the popular vote in five of the past six presidential elections. trump is the one who ultimately
has to change the dynamic and their view i think in the end is that both sanders and trump will seem like too severe a change for a majority of the american public n public. that is not an approach without risk. she has been overshadows. almost feels like where is she in this rate as this point? but they believe fundamentals will point people back to her in a very fractious moment. >> and bernie sanders is reminding people in the polls he is the person that beats donald trump resoundingly and has take an hands duff, somewhoff, somewh to hillary clinton's e-mails's he said something a little different this weekend. let me play that for you. >> what i think is that people in the democratic process want a real debate about the real issues. now, you're right. the inspector general just came out with a report. it was not a good report for secretary clinton. that is something that the american people, democrats, and
delegates, are going to have to take a hard look at. >> okay. so, matt, there's some thinking that he is going to become more aggressive about the e-mails and then at the convention, pounce on them, if it comes down to that? >> that may happenen enedhappen to say months ago when bernie sanders said nobody cares about your damn e-mails. i thought it was a mistake. this is a guy running, trying to basically beat what is an inc e incumbe incumbent. you have to use everything at your disposal to make that happen and he was sort of letting this huge scandal go to call her out on it. now it looks brilliant. didn't exploit it early on. let other people, whether the department of justice, the republicans or the media makes this into, i think it is a big deal, not make it into a big deal, but talk about it. bernie was able to stay on the high ground and not really go there. now as you near the convention,
he really has the moral authority now to say, look, i didn't make this into a big deal, but now we're talking about electability. now we're talking about who can actually beat donald trump, and i think these e-mails are now relevant. so i think bernie sanders ended up playing this exactly right. >> there you go. >> except that you have a ma jorpty jority of dell guilt and superdell guilt. the problem with the strategy, already over the line, raising that argument is like what? >> a long shot for bern pip this salve as good as bernie could have expected to do, to still be in the race, and for the democrats, still fighting it out long after donald trump locked it up. >> yeah. panel, thank you very much for being here with us on this memorial day. and you can keep up with the latest political news. the new cnn politics app. this offers details on senator marco rubio's about-face on supporting donald trump and the latest republican plans for a
convention acceptance speech. download the cnn politics app for free in the app store. we've been following this story. you probably heard about it. the cincinnati zoo. this little kid finds his way, or whatever, slipped into its habitat. the gorilla grabs him, is dragging him around, winds up being killed to save the boy. now there's controversy. was there another way to save this kid? we take a look. we have video that shows the entire incident. you decide. looking for balance in your digestive system?
this morning, the cincinnati zoo standing by its decision to shoot and kill a gorilla after a little boy slipped into the gorilla enclosures but critics call it an avoidable tragedy. some blame the zoo. others blame the child's mother. go to cnn's jessica snyder live in cincinnati with the details. what's the latest, jessica? >> reporter: alisyn, even an online petition calling for criminal charges against the parents for their alleged negligence. so far, no comment just yet from police or the district attorney. but while people are expressing their anger, there's a swirl of emotions out here.
there's also sadness and there's confusion asking, why, or how, could this have happened? the gorilla world exhibit has been open since 1978 and never a breach new now. people are now saying that they want justice for harambe, and a zoo director says how it all happened, a 4-year-old boy slipped under a rail, then went through protective wiring and actually went on to the moat wall and dropped 15 feet into the water below. that's when the gorilla encountered that 4-year-old boy, stood over him and then tiviole tossed and taunted him for three minutes. the little boy's mom was yelling to him saying, don't worry. mommy's right here. now, the dangerous animal response team says that they had to move in and take very quick action. they had no choice, they say, but to kill the gorilla. they said it was all to save the little boy's life, but now
people, of course, very angry that this happened and they're now calling for justice for harambe. chris? >> all right. there is a lot to talk about here, and we're going to do it coming up on the show. thank you for the reporting. jessica, we'll check back in a little bit. another provocative question this morning what should we do about the summer olympics? in rio. yet the zika outbreak there and doctors saying maybe the olympics should be moved? that is impossible at this point. we'll examine, next. eartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmmm. incredible. looks tasty. you don't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief.
all right. as we all know, there is an outbreak of the zika virus in brazil, and now it's raising concerns about the summer olympics in rio. you have about 150 health experts that were calling for the games to be moved or postponed and they did this in an open letter to the world health organization. the agency is dismissing the request. let's look at the asides of this right now. professor of law and medicine at the university of ottawa, ameer otaran who co-authored that letter and also ivan watson,
cnn, live in rio. thank you, gentlemen. doctor, start with you. make the case for why this is necessary. not just a good preventative thing, but has to be done. >> well, here's the situation. rio is the heart of brazil's zika outbreak. it hases second highest number of zika cases in all of brazil, and it's out of brazil that you've seen these horrible images of the babies born with small heads, inside those skulls oftentimes very severe brain damage. brazil is investigating 7,500 cases of those birth defects caused by the zika virus. that's a big deal. now, do you want to send, for the olympics, a half million global travelers from every country of the world. these are not regular travelers. they're sort of like a noah's ark of travelers picked from every country into rio where they can get that virus, that
particular brazilian virus that is causing this, and then have them return home, many of them going to countries where not the same mosquitoes to transmit the disease, you've got the same weather patterns needed for this disease. is that what you want? you can then be seeding new epidemics, these brain-damaged children in many countries. >> that sounds like a good argument. >> right. and you cite also, by the way, it's been done before somewhat, different scale when the women's world cup fifa pulled it from china in 2003 because of sars but the world health organization, ivan, was pretty simple and direct on this. they said based on the current assessment cancelling or changing the location of the 2016 gameless not significantly alter the international spread of zika. so they're basically saying, even if we moved it, it wouldn't change. what is the confidence in that position there? >> well, i mean, the w.h.o. argues that zika is probably in
about 60 different countries. it is saying that this should not pose at this time a global health risk to hold the olympics here. no need to delay it or postpone it, but it is important that the w.h.o. is still standing by its health advisories, chris, and that is, that pregnant women basically shouldn't even come here for the olympics. also that anybody who comes, they need to protect themselves with mosquito reellant, wear long sleeved clothes and try to stay in air conditioned residences. so it is saying that there is a risk here. it's funny. one of the warnings also is to stay away from basically poorer neighborhoods. so what does that mean for the ordinary people here who have poorer sanitation, there's more open water, and they are more at risk of these, this disease. i took a taxi in this town, chris, and one. taxi drivers told me that his sister had contracted zika. it is a worry here, but people in brazil will also tell you
that they are in danger from other mosquito-borne diseases like dengue fever which has pretty intense side effects. >> you know, unlike most urban areas that people are used to, ivan, you know this, of course, being there right now, that place is literally surrounded. the copacabana beach behind you, where you have all the aplunfle, but in the hills, real, real grumps of poverty will. doctor, end on this idea. if the world health organization holds fast, says we don't think this is the consideration, precautions are what they are, athletes aren't pregnant. it you're pregnant, think twice what is your next course of action here? >> you know, hour next course of action, we're scientists, doctors, we're going to continue pointing to the eford and i'll tell you now the world health organization is close to lying scientifically. lying, i choose that word carefully because what they're saying, don't worry about it. zika is in 60 countries of the
world already. yes, and no. the brazilian sort of zika, the brazilian strain of the virus, no way is that in 60 countries. and w.h.o.'s reasoning is sort of like saying, because zika, but not the dangerous brazilian kind, is in 60 countries, let's not fight it. that's a bit like saying you have a forest on fire somewhere. why fight it? >> right. >> i try to put it that way, and that's -- >> we understand, doctor. >> -- reasoning is the problem. >> we understand the compelling argument on that side of it, no question. not just pregnant women but women looking to become pregnant. a different group as well. let us know what's happening on the ground, ivan. doctor, appreciate it. a real nail biter at the indin indy 500. a rookie driver, crossing the finish line just as his car hit empty. dames in our "bleacher report," next.
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the 100th running of the indy 500. coy wire has more on this morning's "bleacher report." coy, we haven't seen this kind of promise since a young man from camp hill, pennsylvania, made it out of stanford leading the team in both rubbing and tackles. >> man, you do your research. good stuff, chris cuomo. i am impressed. highly impressed. yes, alexander rossi out there like you and alisyn. nothing short of just epic. 66-1 long shot going into this race. 24 years old. never even been to the indy 500. at one point, he was in last place. no way he's going to win. right? nah. a risky strategy gets him to the finish line before all the other cars who will caster. rossi stretches his final tank of gas 90 miles. this guy was running out of gas on the final lap, coasting through the corners, barely crosses the finish line, guys. didn't make it around on the victory lap. the car had to get towed in. highlistic, high reward resulting in a shocker of the
100 running of the indy 500 and, of course, kisses the bricks and drinks that milk. congrats to alexander. and the western conference nba finals. golden state defending champs down three games to one but came swinging back against the thunder. all tied up in the series. people want to see the final round. tickets selling for $29,000 a piece. a pair will cost you more than to buy a 2016 mercedes e class. i'll take the tv. tip-off is set for 9:00 p.m. eastern and it's going to be a doozy. alisyn? >> that was great, coy. i also stretch out the gas in my gas tank and sometimes just roll into a gas station. late on fumes. same thing. so i get it. you know? coy, thank you. that was great. all right, today, of course, is memorial day.
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welcome back to a special memorial day edition of "new day." as we remember our troops who made the ultimate sacrifice. we want to bring in lieutenant general mark hertling, a cnn military analyst and former general in it's army. you want to do something special to remember a number of the service men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice. so tell us about, you know, how these are literally close to your heart. >> well, good morning, alisyn, and thank you for having me today to speak on behalf of all of the veteran whose have served on this very important day, memorial day. last year we did a story that i
think you liked about a box that a few of us have in our possession. it consists of pictures of various soldiers who served under our command and made the ultimate sacrifice. retired chairman of the joint chiefs dempsey, general mike scaferotti commands in europe and i all had a box made when serving together, and it contains pictures of those who paid the ultimate sacrifice. last year i shared a couple of stories with you because the power of story is so critically important and your team asked me this morning to basically share a few more stories of some additional soldiers who made that sacrifice during service in iraq. >> let's do that. i know that you want to talk about private jonathan felonico? >> correct. jonathan was a, an american samoan. he was only 20 years old. he had just arrived in baghdad when we were, general dempsey and i were serving there
together in 2003 and 2004, and about 30 days after he arrives he was killed in action. now, what makes private falaniko, not only a young life ended too quickly but his father a command sergeant major in the same unit. well respected and loved by fellow soldiers and knew his son was coming over to join him in combat. sergeant major had the onerous task of unfortunately taking his son's body home to his mother first in germany and then on to arlington cemetery. one of those lives snuffed out way too early by enemy fire. >> general, tell us about car leied carlita, davis. >> with the 10th mountain division. she volunteered repeatedly good go on to prpatrol with her brot. she wanted to be out with her
brothers and one day in late 2007, she was killed in an improvised explosive device. a young soldier who had her husband back home in fort drum new york but also survived by three young sons, tyrone, theodore, and gosh, drawing a blank. trey. yes. trey was her third son. >> wow. that really brings it home so powerfully to think who she left behind, and tell us about captain rgos cruz? >> a mitt team chief that conducts and advises and assists with one of our army iraqi division. we hear about those tome, the assist teams. from the national guard and gave his life right alongside of his iraqi battalion counterpart and left behind his wife sarah back in puerto rico.
again, another life lost too early. then, the next one i think probably have, staff sergeant dutron, first generation vietnamese, actually stationed in germany with me before we deployed to germany. part of the 2nd calvary definition. married to a vietnamese wife, lived in germany had a young child, and even though he was an artilleryman, he volunteered to go out on foot patrols where he was killed with an improvised explosive device. the other, this individual was actually attempted to subdue an enemy combatant when that individual touched off what we call touched off a suicide vest he was wearing and killed captain medders and other iraqi citizens standing by. captain medders was single but left behind his parents in ohio.
>> general, we have to leave it there, but thank you. i mean, you know, we hear the numbers of people and then to understand their life story and who they've left behind just makes it so much more impactful and powerful for us on this memorial day. thank you so much for sharing all of this. >> thank you, alisyn. if you look at those faces, those are the faces of america, and thank you very much for having me this morning. >> thank you, general. we're following a lot of news, including wild weather this memorial day. let's get right to it. you feel it as soon as you get in the water. your feet almost get swept out from under you. >> pretty bad. >> it's scary. >> crawling out of the car. >> if you can't see the road, you've got to stop. illegal immigrants are taken much better care in this country than our veterans. we love the vets. >> here in the california primary we are going to see a huge turnout. >> i want to go in to the convention with more pledged
delegates than secretary clinton. >> i will work hard to unify the democratic party. the gorilla has the child. and is dragging him around the pen. >> he was being very aggressive. >> i'm sure he was stressed because there were many people shouting and screaming. >> really wasn't going to let him get away. >> it's a sad day all the way around. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning, everyone. welcome back to a special memorial day edition of "new day." you are about to look at live pictures of arlington national cemetery where in just a few hours president obama will pay tribute to america's fallen soldiers, laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns for the final time as president. but we begin with the remnants of tropical storm bonnie, slamming the carolina coast. bonnie packing torrential rain, gusting winds and causing dangerous flooding and rip currents. some roads so flooded they've had to be closed. the holiday spoiler becoming a hassle for air travel as well.
the headache compounded by a computer crash at jfk. we also have a different type of storm system producing record shattering rain and flooding in central texas as well as parts of kansas. at least six people lost their lives, two others still missing. so where are these storms headed next? and is there relief in sight? big questions. we have it covered for you. let's start with cnn meteorologist jennifer gray, live in hilton head, south carolina. you were wear the storm was. what does that tell us what it did bring to where it heads sglex. >> reporter: yeah. it's better, definitely, in the southeast, but the stornl is moving to the northeast so it is gr going to be a wet memorial day for many. of course, bonnie staumed out over the carolinas causing flooding rains but the southeast was only the beginning. this morning, rescue crews in parts of the south continuing to search for those swept away by the deadly flash floods over the
weekend. >> we just hope it doesn't rise anymore. >> reporter: the rushing water enveloping homes and cashes in texas after severe thunderstorms dropped record-setting rain. rapidly generating dangerous floodwaters. the city of brenham, at least two people killed by the flood, inundated with more than 19 inches of record-shatters rainfall in 48 hours. >> when you see flooded waterways, it doesn't take much water to cause injury. >> reporter: the floods in southeast texas killing at least six people. one of the victims, 21-year-old darin mitchell, posting this haunting picture of water half way up his truck window. according to cnn affiliate kprc, the caption -- all i wanted to do was go home. the marknational guardsman swep away a few hours after. the search is still ongoing for a 10-year-old boy who slipped
and fell in this river. in the east, tropical depression bonnie, dampening holiday plans for millions in the carolinas. the system stalling near charleston with 30 mile-per-hour winds and unto four inches of rainfall. along south carolina's beaches the storm creating surf are conditions that could be life threatening. life if guards already rescuing at least a dozen over the weekend. >> a lot of rip currents. the undertoe is pretty strong. we're just keeping people at knee deep. there's no swimming allowed right now. >> reporter: so rip currents the rain threat across much of the east coast as rain for millions in the northeast on this memorial day. chris? >> jennifer, thank you very much. appreciate it. that's where it was. the question is, where is it headed next? let's get to meteorologist chad everette myers for a look at your memorial day forecast. what do you have, my friend? >> good morning, christopher charles. that storm is not that far from where she is. so weak, is doesn't make wind.
a reporter there, jennifer gray, right there, center of the circulation om 50 or 60 miles away from her but just on land, and hurricanes or tropical storm or anything want to call them, typhoons, cyclones, they need to be over water to get bigger. so it's going to die. the rain isn't going to die. it's going to continue to push water and make rip currents along the carolina coast, before it does that, a couple wet hours. new york city down to it city and d.c. all wet today because of the remnants, that push of what is the tropical moisture of that tropical system. not flooding rainfall. probably an inch or two. still, we are going to see heavy, heavy rainfall. guys, back to you. >> chad, thank you very much. travel torture on tap today for millions of americans who are flying. it's already one of the most heavily traveled days of the year, and even though a computer server crash at new york's jfk
was repaired overnight, the ripple effect is expected to make a bad situation worse. cnn aviation correspondent is tracking the latest developments live from washington, rene marsh. how does it look? >> reporter: good news. after significant delays at one of the nation's biddiest airport operations we are told, back to normal. that computer glitch that started problems in the british airways terminal yesterday has been fixed. now, it's unclear at this point the cause of that computer crash, but at the height of all of this there were massive lines as some 1,500 passengers had to be checked in manually. of course, this comes at the worst possible time. a busy travel weekend, and a major hub. air travel, as you know, is at a record high. about 230 million passengers are expected to fly over the next few weeks. so, of course, that was terrible timing, but, again, the good news at this hour, the airports saying that they have been able to isolate and fix that computer
glitch. >> all right, rene, thank you very much. appreciate it. the question is when they will fix that and we'll stay on the story and give you updates throughout the morning. so donald trump is courting veterans at rolling thunder biker rally in washington over the weekend. and he did that by lashing out at a new target on twitter. while facing a new challenge from the just announced libertarian party ticket. so there's a lot going on in trump world. for it, go to cnn's sara murray. what's the analysis? >> reporter: good morning. you're right. donald trump was here in washington making a pitch to vets over the weekend. all of this comes as he's settling into his role as the republican nominee. between a libertarian and hints they could get in the race trump could face more challenges than anticipated. >> we're going rebuild our military and we're going to take care of our veterans. >> reporter: donald trump making the case to veterans at the
annual rolling thunder motorcycle rally. a tribute to the armed forces. >> illegal immigrants are taking much care, really, taken much better care by this country than our veterans, and that's not going to happen. >> reporter: trump insisting the undocumented immigrants he plans to deport are treated better than veterans. and after months of scrutiny, also promising to explain where the $6 million he says he raised for veterans charities went. >> we're announcing on tuesday all of the groups we put up this money and raised a tremendous amount of money because we love the vets. >> reporter: this as the presumptive nominee is battling new efforts to derail his presidential campaign. weakly standard eder bill kristol, teasing an opponent in a continual effort to stop trump tweeting-d -- there will be a libertarian candidate. trump calling him a dummy and
loser. warning the republican party to unify behind him if it wants to win in november. >> a complete sdamdisaster. >> reporter: the libertarian party locking down their candidate selecting two former republican governors. news mexico's gary johnson and massachusetts' bill weld to challenge both parties' candidates. especially trump. >> taking him on when he says that mexicans are murderers and rapists when -- it's incendiary. call him out on what is really racist. it's just racist. >> reporter: but for now, the trump campaign is staying laser focused on the clintons. >> trouble follows the clintons everywhere. people are frustrated with all of the drama around the clinton family. if they're going to be back in the political venue, their history is relevant to what the american people can expect. >> reporter: that rolling thunder event is specifically designed to honor military members taken as prisoners are war or missing in action and this is an area where donald
trump set off controversy last year when he criticized arizona senator john mccain who was a p.o.w., saying he was not a war hero because trump said he likes people who weren't captured. in spite of those comments, trump managed to get a pretty warm reception here in washington. back to you. >> sara, thanks for that background. talk more with katrina pierson, spokesperson for the trump campaign. >> good morning. >> how concerned is mr. trump about the possibility of yet another third party candidate? not just the libertarians jumping into this race? >> well, i think mr. trump was quite clear, talking about how this could actually hurt the party moving forward, but i just got to say, people like bill kristol still don't get. mr. trump has broken the record in gop primary turnout. bill kristol is actually trying to form a party against the republican party itself. with all the talk of the third-party run, they should be
careful. they just may get what they wish for. >> the latest polls show nearly half of americans polled would be interested, would consider, they say, voting for a third party. this is the latest nbc/"wall street journal" poll, 47% of americans say, yes. would you consider a third party candidate. i know what you mean about mr. trump sort of lashing back at bill kristol. his tweet last night from donald trump. the republican matter to be smart and strong ifwants to win in nofr. can't allow lightweights to set up a spoiler indy candidate. it does sound like he's concerned about a third party candidate getting in and spoiling it for him. >> he does talk about a third party candidate getting in the race and essentially handing over the presidency to hillary clinton. that's nothing new. bill kristol knows this. so the intention is selfish for someone like bill kristol and the never trump movement to even try something like this. for many in this country, they are tired of the two-party
system. of course, they would support a third party. at the same time, donald trump has been able to captivate many of those people, because he was a political outsider, working inside as a republican to bring on new voters. i mean, we're talking about losing a presidential election last cycle by 4 million to 5 million votes. we've turned out that many in the primary process alone. so many more this coming november giving the people an opportunity to elect someone that's going to put their needs and interests first. >> katrina, let's talk about the libertarian party that now has their two candidates who have gary johnson and bill weld, both popular former governors and sounds like mr. trump is already taking a swipe at one of them, bill weld. this is what the "new york times" quotes -- a spokesperson saying, quoting mr. trump i don't talk about his alcoholism. mr. trump said, through a spokeswoman. so why would he talk about my foolishly perceived fascism?
there is nobody less are a fascist than donald trump. so i see the point he's trying to make. doesn't like being call add fascist, but is this how it's going to be? is he going to go after sort of people's perceived personal weaknesses? >> well, these are competitors and people who have been out there criticizing him. with regard to the libertarian ticket, libertarians vote for libertarians and a lot of times the protest vote goes for libertarians. i mentioned, there are millions of new voters now entering the political process to support mr. trump. he's going to compete the whole way through. this is not something that mr. trump will take lightly and he will fight back and fight back hard. because he is the only one that wants to get out there and push a pro-america agenda, pro-economy, and pro-jobs for the country in the best interests of the people in this country, not those abroad, not those special interests. and not the political class. >> as you know, there have been questions about trump
university. and people, journalists as well as people who went there, think that it has some dubious claims that have been made. so "the washington post" has been looking to get its hands on documents that could see if trump university overpromised its students. so now the judge connected to the case, mr. trump has been going after that judge in a sort of interesting way. let me play for you what he said this weekend. >> i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. a hater. he's a hater. his name is -- gonzalo curiel. the judge who happens to be, we believe, mexican which is great. i think that's fine. you know what? i think the mexicans are going to end up loving donald trump when i give all of these jobs. >> so katrina, we believe he's mexican. what is that? >> well, i think there's two parts to this, alisyn. first, you know, trump
university, classes being taught to people. like saying, if you graduated from harvard and don't have the same outcome in your profession as everyone else, sue harvard. that's absurd. >> not exactly. all sorts of things overpromised, it's said, donald trump would play a more active role than he was. that there was more of a rate of job success than really was true. many things people took issue with. >> that's my point. the outcomes. they wanted the equal outcomes. you can't guarantee an outcome and some people a part of this case have given a glowing review of trump university. this will play out. with regards to this jump, however, there was supposed to be a hearing last summer and this judge postponed it for whatever reason. interesting about this particular judge, as mr. trump refers to him as a trump hater he mentioned on his judicial questionnaire he was a lorassa lawyers organization, out there organizing anti-trump protestors with the mexican flags, pushing
it. signs very apparent. and mr. trump is stating the obvious. >> but this judge isn't mexican. he was born here. he's american. >> no. i'm not saying he's mexican. i'm saying the reason he's pointing it out is because larossa is tied to -- he says, we believe. >> what's the point of that? why is he going after an ethnicity? what's the point? >> because what we see outside of these rallies, these anti-trump rallies, these criminal rallies, criminal protestors out there defacing property and attacking police officers. they're doing so under the guise of an anti-trump protest with their mexican flags, and larassa and this just is connected to that. >> but you recognize that the judge, you're saying that mr. trump was wrong. you recognize that the jump -- >> no. i don't know if he's mexican or not. i don't know his heritage or descent. the point is we keep talking about anti-trump protests and need to identify who these people are and what they're doing, because this is not a pro-american group who is out there wanting to get their
voices heard. they are out there pushing to destroy, propose anarchy, to stop an american president from running for office. >> for the record, he's american, but we hear you, katrina. thank you for being on "new day." appreciate it. >> thanks, alisyn. >> get to chris. hillary clinton is not a lock for the nomination. that's what bernie sanders is saying. he's also saying he could win in california, and at the convention. and do you remember, we're tired of hearing about your e-mails? listen to what he's saying now about that, and about being clinton's v.p. for all that, cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns live in washington with more. joe? >> reporter: good morning, chris. sanders said over the weekend right now his focus is on winning the nomination, and after that, we'll have to see what happens. as the race for the california primary continues, sanders is still essentially tweaking his message on this memorial day weekend. on the one hand, repeating his mantra that he is firmly against a donald trump presidency.
on the other hand, saying that if hillary clinton wants party unity, she's going to have to work for it. listen. >> my job is to make sure that trump does not become president and i will do that, but it is -- if secretary clinton is the nominee it is her job to reach out to millions of people and make the case as to why she is going to defend working families and the middle class. provide health care to all people. take on wall street. deal aggressively with climbed change nap is the candidate's job to do. >> reporter: sanders tweaks his language also over the weekend just a bit in talking about hillary clinton's e-mail problem when she was secretary of state. he essentially said that that is the type of situation that the voters as well as delegates to the democratic national convention are going to have to take a good, hard look at. back to you. >> thanks so much for all of that. well, the new alternative to
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x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. welcome back to a special memorial day edition of "new day." please, take some time today, if rain allows, with all your celebrating, remember the solemn nature of this occasion, those who gave their freedoms so we could have our own. part of that, voting in open elections. know another party is getting into the fray to be president. libertarian party members chose a pair of former republican governors, gary johnson and william weld for their ticket after a pretty fiery weekend at their convention. so could this be the year that a
third-party candidate breaks through? let's discuss with the newly minted libertarian vice presidential nominee, former massachusetts governor william weld. congratulations, governor. it wasn't easy. took a couple of ballots for you to get up at about 50%. the concerns seems to be, well, weld is a republican, not a libertarian. how did you get passed? >> well, it was understandable, chris. i'd only been a libertarian member of the party 14 days and these people have been faithfully, you know, registering and getting on the ballot in all 50 states for years and years and years. so you can see how they might have had some questions about the new guy on the block and they did. i got to put 50.0 only on the second ballot. >> do you consider yourself a libertarian more than a republican, and if so, why? >> well, i've always described myself as a libertarian, from my first day in office as governor back in the early '90s, and, yeah. i consider myself a libertarian
on political philosophy. when i talk to the republican national convention, when i talked there in 1992, i said i want the government out of your pocketbook and out of your bedroom, and that's really a concise statement of my political philosophy and of the political philosophy of the libertarian party. >> let's put up some numbers. we had former new mexico gary johnson, top of the libertarian ticket who says the frustration is a circular argument. i can't get on the ballots for these polls, can't get on there because i'm not at 15 but can't get at 15 if not in the poll. a circulating problem. look at numbers in the electorate. you have more than half of the voters saying they would consider a third choice, the numbers, at best, have johnson at about somewhere at 18, take voter under 30 years of age and somewhere at about 10% overall. do you think you have a realistic chance to make an impact in this election, if not win? >> yeah, no. we do. gary johnss is polling at 10%
when his name is included in the polls just by himself, before i got in with him and we do have a lot of experience. two, two-term governors is a lot of executive experience. i think people will give us a look. we seem to have some appeal to the millennials right now bernie sanders' base, and i would think a bunch of republicans might view our brand of republicanism as quite palatable. the point is, we don't agree with either party. we don't agree with the socially conservative movement, conservative elements of the republican party platform, and we don't agree with the spending priorities, namely spend, spend, spend, of the democratic party, and that's a combination than characterizes a lot of people in this country. i don't know whether it's 40% or 50%, but it's a big number. >> johnson has been hammering trump about saying bigoted things about mexicans. he says he calls them rapists and murderers. you said that what you see with trump on immigration equates in
your mind to cristkristallnacht. too extreme? he's pushing back obviously, saying i never said mexicans are murderers and rapists. i said they're sending us our worst, murderers, rapists, that's what the mexican government was don and then sent out a tweet about you. he said, i never talk about william weld and the supposed alcoholism. why would he talk about my fascism? there's nobody less of a fascist than donald trump. what do you make of that? >> i don't know. i'm just going to let it ride. we are not going to be in the business of trading insults as was done during the primary season on the republican side. i'm just going to threat go and it doesn't matter what else happens. i've been in politic as long time, checked my privacy at the door a long time ago and happy to do it. >> what do you think? is that taking it the wrong way, though, comparing what trump is doing with immigration to the
nazi movement? pushing characterizations of what he thinks about mexicans? >> no. i was asked, do you think mr. trump is a nazi or a fascist and i said, no. i said, however, if you are rounding up 11 million people because of their status as not having their papers in order and deporting them, that's very troubling. and rounding up 11 million people doesn't strike me as the american way to do things. similarly, mr. trump wants to put up this huge wall along the mexican border, and he's going to pay for it by seizing the money remittances that mexicans in this country send back to their families, in mexico. i almost can't believe it. but, you know, just pausing for a minute on the wall. what was the most famous wall of the 20th century? it was the berlin wall which was a stain and a shame on the whole soviet empire, and ultimately ronald reagan stood in front of
that wall and said, mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall, and mexico will do the same thing in a few years saying, mr. trump, tear down this wall and mr. trump will have to do it because he's on the wrong side of history. >> governor weld, good luck in the race ahead. good to have you on "new day." you're always welcome to talk about what matters. looking forward to having governor johnson on again. >> thank you, chris. of course, the invitation accepted. high doesn't want to be on "new day"? the head of the libertarian ticket on "new day" tomorrow to make his case to you. alisyn? chris, next we're going to get reaction to what you just heard from former governor weld and what the chances are for these other parties now throwing their hats in the ring. we'll also look at whether or not hillary clinton has a plan to take on donald trump. stick around. people have eyebr? why do people put milk on cereal? oh, are you reading why people put milk on cereal? why does your tummy go "grumbily, grumbily, grumbily"? why is it all (mimics a stomach grumble)
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priorities, namely spend, spend, spend, of the democratic party, and that's the combination that characterizes a lot of people in this country. >> okay. that is the libertarian party's new vice presidential nominee, former governor william weld. let's get reaction to what he said from cnn political commentator and political anchor of time warner cable news errol louis. great to have you here in studio with us. >> good morning. >> he's basically saying there's an appetite to take the best from both parties, as he defines it, sort of fiscal responsibility, yet not kw conservative on social issues and that people will be open to that. what's your take on that? >> my take is that this is what liberal republicans especially in the northeast did for decade, and they are politically extinct. it is the same thing that former mayor mike bloomberg talked about. fiscally conservative, socially liberal. the same thing gary johnson talked about. these folks are sort of
political orphans for a reason. the reason is that people aren't buying it, frankly. the republican coalition built, as he i think properly says, on both fiscal conservatism and social conservatism has enjoyed great political success. those who didn't sort of want to play along the so-called rockefeller republicans, liberal republicans again in the northeast, where are they now? now out of office. he's sort of trying to find a home. the libertarian party not a great fit against the chaos of the convention. the absolute chaos at the convention. somebody, a third strand of libertarianism, a light hand in government. on the other hand, you know, before he was governor of massachusetts he was the u.s. attorney, william weld was. he wants the u.s. to remain in the united nations. a lot of libertarians want the united states to go its own way. he's sort of a big government sort of guy, and that doesn't sit well with a lot of libertarians. again, a very difficult position for somebody like him to be in. so i look at this in ways as almost a history lesson. there used to be a thing called
liberal republicans. they're now trying to find a new home. this very odd place, the libertarian place is where one of their more prominent members william weld has ended up. i don't think, however, he's going to be the next vice president of the united states. >> libertarian ticket a non-eve non-event? >> not a non-event. it's interesting. when there are lots and lots of people politically homeless and roaming the political landscape, it should be of some interest because our party interest is designed to pick those people up and include them under a big tent in one party or the other. it's not as if democrats rejected these folks and frankly not as if republicans rejected these folks, other than for certain offices. you know, but where do they end up? we saw ron paul, rand paul, against, mike bloomberg flirted with a run for president and now this libertarian. >> the size of a protest vote. >> at the moment. maybe it will go up. >> true, because he doesn't get into polling and believeses that
why he's not getting momentum. how does that change? >> in any given state, if they can make a difference, sort of be relevant in a given swing state they're playing the same game as everybody else when it comes to presidential politics. if they were to somehow find the discipline and strategic insight to focus on libertarians in virginia who are worth ten times what libertarians in massachusetts or, say, new mexico white be worth. >> a big "if." >> yes. and they have to do ing things like have nominees stop stripping in front of cameras and the wacky stuff. get past that and focus on some key states. believe me, anybody who says they're going to definitely vote in ohio, or in virginia, or in north carolina, and certainly in florida, they're going to get a lot of people's attention, and that would be a chance for them to advance their principles. again, not necessarily a victory that will take them the white house but a chance to be relevant. >> let's talk about hillary clinton, getting advice from all different corners about what her
tact should be. now, trying to fight this asymmetrical warfare, i've been calling it, that donald trump is playing. so chuck schumer said this to the "new york times" this weekend, as soon as hillary clinton clinches the nomination we need a high-level person in the campaign whose sole job is to respond top trump on almost an hourly basis. one suggestion. people suggest she's using an old playbook and donald trump has ripped that up? >> she might need more than one person if you go with senator schumer. might need a handful of people and one of they are strengths as candidate people anticipated is that easy going to have a really high-level, high-powered group of surrogates out there assuming that, say, president obama and the first lady, michelle obama, get involved. assuming that, of course, her husband bill clinton already out on the trail, but if others get involved, then she can really sort of cover a lot of territory. she can start to appeal to a lot of different wings of the electorate and so forth.
but the response to donald trump, i'm frankly of the -- in the camp that both certainly candidates but definitely the media, all you have to do is tell the truth. every single day. there's something that's vulgar or childish, or, you know, flat out dishonest. you know? just factually wrong that comes out of the man's mouth. every single day. i think all of can do, just tell people. like even the comment you were talking about earlier with his spokeswoman. when he comes out and says, this judge is disgraceful. this judge a mexican. that's racial, biased. put it out there and move on and trust in the good sense of the american people that somewhere down the road when we get past the conventions, when it's time in the last, say, 60 to 90 days to really sort of make a choice and, again, it's steak or chicken. get a third choice. go with gary johnson, i guess, in you want, and trust that people are going to say, this is
not what the leadership of this country is supposed to be about. i think that's probably her best bet. >> eol louis, we shall see. thanks so much for being here in studio with us. >> all right. a dangerous situation, desperate decision at the cincinnati zoo. could sozookeepers have didn't something else to keep from killing a gorilla? see what he did with the 4-year-old boy? we'll discuss, next. doesn't it seem like the
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save a 4-year-old boy who slipped into the gorilla habitat this weekend. we want to bring in animal expert jeff corwin, host of abc's "ocean mysteries." good morning, jeff. >> good morning. >> what a terrible and tragic situation for everyone involved. the people who were just there sightseeing. this poor boy. the families. the zookeepers. everybody. so, jeff, let's just start at beginning and walk through this. first of all, how hard is it for a 4-year-old boy to fall into a gorilla enclosure? >> excellent question of point. let me say something quick about the cincinnati zoo. the senate zoo is a world-class zoo. an incredible place of conservation, in fact, in the front lines of conservation, there's an endangered rhino today alive because of this zoo. also an urban zoo, which means thousands of inner city kids get to visit this place and connect
with nature. with that said, this is a terrible tragic situation. it has left everyone in this community reeling and heart-searching about why this happened. so many questions. these enclosures are designed to keep the public safe, to prevent creatures from escaping, and to prevent a reasonable amount of meddling. the truth is, as we've seen in the past, if someone wants in, they're going to get in. we've seen that with tiger enclosures and polar bears. >> yes, we have. >> but -- unacceptable that this kid was able to slip in. >> jeff, i want to ask you. we're looking at video on the split screen. when you watch this as an animal expert, can you help us understand what harambe is doing with this little boy? at first it looks like he may be protecting him, then he grabs him by the hand and begins dragging him through the water. what's happening here? >> it's hard to get in the mind of this incredible primate
harambe. gorillas, we know, as we all great apes are incredibly intelligent, but was he looking at this child as another primate to protect or looking at it as just a rag doll? it's really hard to say. i will tell you this -- harambe weighed 400 pounds. it was kpa nexponentially stron than this child and if it wanted could have instantly dispatched this child. who's to say how this situation would have resulted in the end. we have seen great examples of altruism, right? when gorillas have actually rescued children that have fallen in their closure and seen worst-case scenarios unfold when human frimates connect with other primates like gorillas and chimpanzees. we've seen that in connecticut. i think this zoo felt they were almost at that point of no return. but the truth is, here is who was not at fault.
it was the gorilla. the gorilla didn't escape. it wasn't running king kong through the city of cincinnati. it wasn't being aggressive. it was just kind of hanging out. terrible, terrible tragic situation. >> so at the point where the gorilla did become, to our eyes, aggressive with the little boy, where he was grabbing him, dragging. through t him through the water, did the animal control officials have anything other option other than that kill harambharambe? >> it's so hard to be in their skin in this incredibly tenuous and terrifying moment. from what i've seen, i've seen situations where tranquilizer darts have been used and can take in some situations depending on what the medication is, it can take upwards to 10 or 15 minutes. it may take maul poll shots. >> that's why they said they didn't use it. why they said they did the deadly source instead of the
tranq kwa lidser gun. they had to make that split second decision to kill has rahm b her harambe. visiting public, some are very, very upset. 0 to your mind is there any other way this could have ended? >> i don't know. all i can tell you is i've worked with many of the folks at the cincinnati zoo. thr folks that work there now because of their work there irspecies that would have been extinct, like the sumatran rhino that are alive today because of the work. they're very dedicated. there are many questions to ask. i think the zoo has questions to ask, but i think the public has a question they need to ask themselves. when you go a zoo, and i'm not saying this is the case for this family, but when you go to the zoo, the zoo's not your baby-sitter. 0 okay? put down the selfie stick. refrain from texting. be a part of that family experience and watch your kids.
i have seen so many crazy things happen at zoos. i've seen people put their children up on railings, knowing that there's a predatory animal beneath just to get that photo. i've seen people stick their hands in catches, actually pick up animals. common sense is a powerful tool when working with wildlife. >> jeff corwin, great reminders for all of us today. thanks for joining us. great to get your perspective. >> thank you. what is your take on this story? please, tweet us @newday or post your comments on facebook.com/newday. >> alisyn camerota with a whine. today is memorial day. not just a celebration, to remember the service and ultimate service of troops who died fighting for your freedom. next, we're going to talk with a keep it here, as we honor the fallen on this special memorial day edition of "new day."
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iraqi forces have launched next face of a military operation to retake the city of fallujah from isis. let's talk about that, an the posh of this day. well with us steve and for "operation inherent resolve." colonel, thank you for being with us. let's deal with the news of the day and the larger snick of this day. just what is a at stake? >> cnn, i'm only getting about every tenth word. >> how about now, colonel? >> hey, chris, i can barely hear you, but hopefully you can hear me.
we don't know if they have breached the center of the city yes, but that's certainly their objective. we have seen the regular army to the police to even their elise counter-terrorism he service all participating in this action. >> talk to us about memorial day and some of the troops you had remembered? memorial day is probably the most important holiday. we take take it have he seriously and it's a day we remember our own fallen. when we speak the names of those who have fallen, they live on. here in iraq during this current operation, of course, we are remembering master sergeant josh wheeler, sergeant first-class louie cardin, and chief petty officer charles keating, who have all given their lives here
in iraq the last several months, and then we think of those who we have lost the last years and those who have giving the ultimate sacrifice for our great country. it's a very important day for us, but we certainly hope that everyone enjoys the holiday. take a moment to thank a vet, and if not, know that we're standing on this wall and we're going to keep you safe. >> colonel steve warren, how do you feel the state of play is where you are right now? >> we think that the state of play is much improved from a year ago. you know, a year ago here in iraq, the bar barance were at the gate, baghdad was actually threatened, and in theory was in direct danger of being invaded by these animals that we call isil. now we have driven them back. they have lost almost ha%.
they have lost 20% of the territory they ones held in syria. we are seeing the iraqi security forces that in 2014 quite frankly collapsed until the pressure that isil put on them. we're seeing them begin to rebuild. we've got more than 5,000 americans here on the ground right now providing training, advice and assistance to these iraqis. we're flowing equipment into them. so we're beginning to see this iraqi military rebuild itself and start to take ground back. >> colonel warren, please stay safe and thank you for sharing what's going on in iraq and what this day means to the people and the troops. thing you, sir. >> chris, thank you. we are following a let of news and tracking these heavy rains and flooding on this memorial day. so what do you say? let's get to it. the water is up to our
knees. >> it's strong. >> lightning is striking everywhere. it's violent and i don't feel safe. >> the day has been crazy. he talk about he wants to have a great military. well, we have the best in the world. >> we're going to remake it, bigger, better and stronger. >> we're going to fight um the last vote is cast. with special memorial day edition of "new day." >> as we remember our troops who made the ultimate sacrifice. >> those are the faces of america. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alison cam. camerota. we have a live picture from arlington national cemetery where of course president obama will aa wreath this morning at
the tomb of the unknowns. this is the last time he does this duty. severe weather this morning is a big story around the country. tropical depression bonnie is creeping up the east coast, packing heavy rain, gusty winds and forces some dramatic flood rescues. >> a different system in texas and kansas, killing at least six people in that area. the weather further complicating holiday travel. first to cnn's meteorologist jennifer grey. she joins us from hilton head. of course it looks pretty, but that was not the case a few hours ago. >> yeah, what a difference a day makes. of course rip currents will still be a huge concern all up and down the east coast, but the southeast was just a beginning. it was a wild weanend all across the south. this morning rescue cues and parts of the south continuing to
search for those swept away by the deadly flash floods. >> we hope it doesn't rise anymore. >> the rushing water enveloping cars and homes after record-setting rain, rapidly generating dangerous floodwaters. the city of britainham where at least two people were killed, inundated with more than 19 inches of rainfall in 48 hours. >> when you see flooded waterways, it doesn't take much water to cause injury. >> the floods in southeast emtexas killing at least six people. women victims darren mitchell posting this haunting picture of water halfway up his window. the caption -- all i wanted to do was go home. the national guardsman swept away not long after. a few hours northwest of houston, the search is still
ongoing, he slipped and feld into the water. the system is stalling near charleston with 30-mile-per-hour winds and up to 4 inches of rainfall. along south carolina's beaches, the storm creating surf and rip current conditions that could be life-threatening. lifeguards already rescuing at least a dozen over the weekend. >> there's a lot of rip currents, the undertow is pretty strong, so we're keeping people at knee-deep. there's no swimming allows now. >> folks will be able to salvage what's left of their memorial day weekend, but chris, all of this is headed your way to the northeast. >> absolutely. we have the wide eye on the situation. thank you for setting the stage. so that is the question? where is the tropical depression headed next? let's gel to meteorologist chad myers for a look at the memorial day forecast. >> it's in no hurry to move
anywhere, moving northeast at 3 miles per hour now, very close to charleston. later on the storms will fire up. we will get storms that go all along the coast as the low slowly travels up toward wilmington. with that onshore flow, the winds going this way, that will crazy more in the way of the rip currents today. i suspect many will be closed to spinning, as one said aaronle deep only. that's all we're letting in, because that win will be even into new york city and into new jersey, kind of a wet afternoon into d.c. maybe for the president and also into new york city. rain showers expected all the way up the east coast, maybe 1 inch of rainfall. let's get to the rest of the forecast, temperatures in the 80s. and it's not going to rain every minute of the day. d.c. 80 as well, miami you're the hot spot down there at 85, and without the rain showers,
and without the clouds, atlanta is the winner, 89. alison? >> it's already pourer here in new york. just a we are. terrorism also cord it is veterans as a rolling thunder biker rally. let's go live to cnn's sara murray in washington. hi, sara. >> good morning, alisyn. of course, all this comes as he's settles into his role as the presumptionive republican nominee. >> we're going to rebuild or military and take care of our
veterans. >> at the rolling thunder motorcycle rally, a tribute to the armed forces. >> illegal immigrants are taking much care, real already, are taken much better care by this country than our veterans. that's not going to happen. trump insisting the undocumented immigrants he plans to deport are treated better than veterans, and after months of scrutiny, also promising to explain where the $of million he explained went to the charities went. >> we're announcing on tuesday all the groups we raised this tremendous amount of money, because we love the vets. this as the presumptive to derail his campaign.efforts - business cristal teasing a possible independent opponent, tweeting -- unimpressive one with a strong team and a realle chance. trump calling kristol a dummy
and unembarrassed loser. >> a third-party run by any candidate is a complete disaster, and you're henning over the white house to the democrats. >> libertarian if party locking down its ticket. gary johnson and bill weld to challenge both parties ease candidates, especially trump. >> taking him off when he says that mexican are murderers and rapists. it's incendiary. call him out on what's really racist. it's just racist. laser focused on the clintons. >> trouble follows the clinton every. people are frustrated. if they'll be back in the political milieu, then that you are history is relevant. that rolling thunder event was interesting for trump. it was set up to honor military
who were taken as p.o.w.s, or missing in action. last year he questioned whether john mccain, who was a p.o.w. was actually a war hero. trump saying he preferred people who hadn't been captured. in spite of all that, he seemed to get a warm welcome here in washington. let's discuss notice with jeffrey lord, trump supporter and former reagan white house, and ana navarro, not a trump supporter. >> i wasn't a supporter when i left, and i'm not a supporter when i've come back. he had a cryptic tweet saying they be someone, well staffed, the libertarian party just put in johnson and weld. do you believe that either can be a factor? >> we just don't know, right? we don't know who the supposed
third-party candidate is. is he a stud? is he a dud? is it a she? we have absolutely no idea, so anything we say is speculative. i think there are people out there. i think mitt romney might be one of those who does a have a built-in operation, who has the ability to raise the money in very little time, who does have the name i.d., who does have the gravitas and who has the experience of running nationwide, so i do think there are some people out there in america who could do it. whether that's the person that bill kristol is referring to, we have no idea. >> it's hard though understand what -- and he reflexively just attacks anybody who criticizes him. how seriously do you think the campaign is taking this? >> ana is right. frankly if it's any serious
republican that will be the last time they run for office as a serious anything. they'll never be taking seriously in republican politics again. this is after all, for whatever they want to say, this is a pro-hillary clinton move. that's what the result would effectively be. you i guess we'll have to wait and see, but it's either a person who doesn't have a political career and does care whether they hold office ever again -- >> we do know that marco rubio said he apologized to donald trump for the paul hands thing, telling him that's not who i am. is this his move towards trump? let's play a sound. >> i told donnell, i apologized to him for that. i said i'm sorry that i said that. it's not who i am. i shouldn't have done it. i didn't say it in front of the
camer cameras. i didn't want any political benefit. i'm not a candidate, so i can say it to you. not because of him. but because of what it reflected on me. it's not who i am. >> is this in any way supposed to be seen as an embrace? >> i really have no idea what marco is thinking. i left, he was not endorsing trump. i came back and i guess he's campaigning for trump. on apologizing for the small hands issue, the marco rubio i know, him apologizing for something he found was not in character for him was not seemly for him, i think is consistent with the guy i know. with genet his wife and the values they told, i think he probably felt that. when he tells us his family and kids were embarrassed, he's being sincere and he felt he needed to apologize.
he went off kavgt to do that. i think he was in character when hi apologized. i think marco is wrestling with what to do next, with how to stay relevant. i think it's difficult to stop running for president. you're going from 60 to 0 in one day, and, you know, i think he's figuring out his footing and how best to utilize his talents, hi assets and maybe help his checks in the senate and the house stay elected. i'm not sure what jeffrey said before, that it's somebody that would not by taken seriously. 9 bottom line is we don't know who this third-party candidate would be. the one thing we know in 2016 is to expect the unexpected, so this notion that it might hurt trump more than clinton, we just don't know. this is the election where lead floats and cork sinks.
>> well pull. jeffrey, one of big lines that trump had, we have to do better by or veterans. everybody agrees, it doesn't get done, but everybody -- he then said illegal immigrants get treated better than the veterans. how? >> well, i'm not sure specifically what he's saying. >> that's the problem, isn't it? et will's be honest. it sounds great, it makes you angry u. but is there any basis of truth? >> let's just take the case of the guy in san francisco who killed kate steinle. he was deposited five times, but welcomed with open arms by san francisco. i've seen people homeless on the street with veteran uniforms.
so i think -- >> one has nothing to do with the other. they're both terrible situati s situations, but in no -- >> no, no, no, chris. >> no way you can -- it's just incendiary talk. that's all. >> it's not incendiary if one guy is being taking care of by the city and somebody else, a veteran, is not being taken care of the the have the ran should be the first priority. >> absolutely. >> my father was a veteran. while we're on the subject, chris, my father had his life, and i am here, because harry truman dropped that bomb on hiroshima, and somebody should stick up for president truman. >> there's a bit of a segue there. ana, what are your thoughts? >> my thoughts before we continue the back and forth, today is memorial day, and we should give a thought to those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice so we can live freely
and have this bad choice between two bad candidates. but i think it's apples and oranges. we have got to fix the national problem with the v.a. there is absolutely no excuse for veterans dies on the waiting line as they wait for medical treatment, about you it's a completely separate and different issue from undocumented immigrants, which is another issue that is a must fix for our country. we've got to figure out a way to walk and chew gum. we just address they pressing national issues, an confounding them and conflaying them is not the way to do it. that's the way to fan the flames and the way to stir the pot. in truth, both of them require serious attention and solutions. >> right. >> long-term solutions. >> and neither has received that. jeffrey, the reason i bring it up, if there's one group that doesn't leek about used as
political pawn, is the veterans. ahmet they want to see is fp action. jeffrey, much realize, as always. ana, great to have you back. the man who will be the standard bearer, governor johnson, the former governor of new mexico, will be right here to make the case to you tomorrow. >> alisyn? no holiday today for bernie sanders, but he's also not saying no to being hillary clinton's running mate. joe johnson has more. >> he says he's still working hard for the nomination and after that we'll see. bernie sanders tweaking his message this memorial day weekend. on the one hand repeating his mantra he's firmly again -- also suggesting if hillary clinton wants party unity and wants the support of sanders' supporters, it's her duty to make that
happen. listen. >> my job is to make sure trump does not become president, but if secretary clint been is the nominee, it's her job to reach out to millions of people and make the case why she will defend working families and the middle class, take on wall street, dealing aggressively with climate change. that is the candidate's job to do. >> sanders also tweaked the language just a get he used over the weekend on the controversy of hillary clinton's use of a private serve ser while she was secretary of state. in the past he's stayed away from weighing in, but on "face the nation" with cbs he spoke about a ben about the report that was highly critical of hillary clinton. he said it wasn't a good report for her and said american people and the delegates will have to take a hard look at it. chris? >> joe, you know where that starts? people who have opinions on this
should read the report. it's only like 42 pages. you can get through it and then you'll know. right now there's a lot of talk without a lot of substance behind it. joe, thank you very much. a tragic death poll in the past week alone. the u.n. says at least 65 migrants desperate to escape places like somalia and sudan are crowded into boats and drowning in the mediterranean sea. hundreds more still missing from three major shipwrecks. the u.n. says the number of dead could soar past 700. there's just no answer to this problem yet. >> back here at home, a shark attack in florida, and possibly another one in southern california. on sunday at neptune beach in florida, you're seeing the aftermath. a 13-year-old boy suffered an injury. and a woman on newport beach
was rescued. officials believe it was a shark, but may have been a sea lion. >> really? >> yikes. >> same way, you're in the same position. rousing, heartfelt powerful, just a few words people are using to describe donovan livingston's commencement speech. hits words, both a challenge to america's educators, and an inspiration to african-american students, all in poet irk verse. >> education is no equalizer. rather,en the sleep that proceeds the american dream, so wake up, wake up, lift your voices until you patch every hole in a child's broken sky. woke up so they know of the celeste ag. i've been the black hole in a classroom for far too long, absorbing everything without my light to escape, but those days are fp done. i belong among the stars, and so so do you, and so do they.
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the world health organization announcing again there's no need to postpone or cancel the summer olympics in brazil over the growing fears of the zika virus, but the decision coming under fire from other doctors who say zika is a big risk. let's bring in dr. fauci, thank you so much for being here. do you agree with the world health organization's decision? >> i do agree with the w.h.o. you don't want to be calf lee, and don't want to underplay it, but based on this evidence. the real issue is affecting pregnant women.
to get them to not go to the regions where there is local outbreaks, and in this case brazil. it's a relatively mild disease. it can be in certain circumstances sexually transmitted to people who go there and come back to live need to take the appropriation guidelines. >> well, your opinion seems to be at odds with 100 other promise didn't doctors and professionals. let me read to you what they believe. attend the game potentially acquire that strain and return home to place where is it can be endemic.
basically half a million people will go there. they might be able to contract the virus and then go home. do these doctors have a point? >> with all due respect, i dug great. with one looks at the hemisphere put the olympics aside, before the olympics and after the olympics per year there are 40 million people who go backs, and south america form the added number of people who would come to brazil globally, since it's -- is not significant enough to say that the particular period will have the major change. we already have numbers of travel-related cases in the united states alone we have
close to 600 travel-related cases in the continental united states, namely people who have been infected there and come back to the united states. you have to put that information and data into perspective. >> you're not saying that it's not a risk to go to the olympics in brazil. you're saying it's the same risk, because people are such global travelers. haven't people curtailed their vacationing to brazil and rio as a result of this? >> you've got to make sure you make a distinction between the situation with pregnancy. that is the thing that people need to understand. if you look at zika as a disease, putting aside pregnant women, it is a relatively mild disease, which is the roerch why there wasn't much attention paid to it prior to the realization that it can have a del test.
deleterious effect on fetuses. >> how diligent should we be? >> we have now travel-related cases. we would not be surprised. in fact it is likely that he will have small local outbreaks of zika in the united states, particularly as we get into the heavy mosquito season and that likely will occur along the gulf coast states. the reason we say that is we have prior experience with diseases like dengue, and vivid many outbreaks in places like florida and texas along the gulf coast. the critical issue is to be prepared to prevent those small local outbreaks from becoming sustained hand becoming disseminated that's where we need to focus the attention.
i believe it's going to be when rather than if. we make sure we have aggressive mosquito control and try to prevent people from getting -- doctor fauci, thank you. chris? donald trump has come a long way since he rode down that escalator to announce he candidacy. so has his political operation. the question is, is his campaign well positioned for the general election? what does this tell us about how he managed? we have one of his former advisers, next. i had so many thoughts once i left the hospital after a dvt blood clot. what about my wife... ...what we're building together... ...and could this happen again? i was given warfarin in the hospital, but wondered,
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the view from inside the trump campaign. what is the candidate's management style? what is it like working with him? our next guest is a former trump political adviser, his name is sam none berg. he was fired from the campaign last august. he joins us to talk about the inner workings. that was ugly situation, bloomberg came up on these facebook posts on you, and you were dismissed. are you bitter?
do you blame the organization? just for some context of your criticisms. >> no, the fact of the matter is they were up there. even though they were old, they were inappropriate, and i'd like to apologize for the audience for them and i would safe reverent sharpton accepted my apology the day after i was terminated. >> there are all kinds of stories about the operation. is there really an operation, and what did you observe? what is the system that is this campaign? >> first of all, donald trump is his own adviser. nobody puts words into his head, but what domp was able to do is hire cory lieu been douse can i. he does everything by piecemeal. >> what does that mean? >> when we started, we were very
lean. remember, he still thought he may have been been able to do "apprentice." we also didn't know how the response would be. if you didn't work out, i don't think the campaign would have gone anywhere. p. is trump is a good manager? >> he's a fantastic manager. i will tell him i worked for him 4 1/2 years. hi's extremely responsive. he's also extremely detailed oriented. in a way micromanages in a make rho style. an example is i would prepare briefings for him in the morning. one would be about his twitter followers, so i would say you have x amount of followers, you have gained x amount of followers in the last week or in the last couple days. then he would say to me, well, how many have i gained since the last time i asked you, and compare that to the time before i asked you. if there is a decrease in
followers, explain to me why? what is the reason? >> do you think -- how do you explain his instinct to attack and to go negative? is that something -- does anybody try to pull him back from saying some of the ugly stuff that comes out of him so often? >> there certain are, certainly advice about what to say. in some ways, senator cruz came in, he ended up with around 7.6 million votes, the fifth most amount of votes, and 1.5 million individuals donations, over 2,000 delegates he would have had there. the problem is going that personal, but that's the way mr. trump, you know, is, and he knows how to brand people. we're sitting here saying maybe he shouldn't have done that, but i tell you, he's the nominee. compare that to the other side. >> do you they he did it because
of his organization or despite it. >> i think he did it with his organization. >> there aren't fabulous stories, lie real stories, they didn't have the people there at the right time, the structure wasn't right that systemically they were struggling. >> no, that's not -- first of all, you need a good product in any business or any campaign. so, for instance, a lot of people say to me, do you think donald trump has changed politics forever? my responsible is no. and he's just simply an anomaly. another celebrity may decide to run, let's say in eight years, and they wouldn't be able to accomplish what mr. trump accomplished, because he has a sense of great political instincts, and marketing instincts. the one thing we know, he really believes what he says. >> he does. some people tailing solace in the notion he's saying this stuff, because he knows it works for him, and he as been quoted as times saying don't worry once
you get in, you'll like me. you're saying, no, in it comes out of his mouth, it's in his heart and head. >> i've had many pope conversations with him, and they would have been politically convenient for him. it would have been much easy to say, i want to defund planned parenthood, for example it would have been much easier to say, i want to, you know, i want to bomb iran or cut off the iranian nuclear deal. it would have been easier for hem him to take that position, but that's the position he took and now he's the nominee. you would never say objectively those positions that that person would get the nomination. >> sam nunberg, thank you. >> appreciate it. what do you think? what questions is it raising with you? alisyn wants to know. tweet or send her a message on
facebook. >> i would welcome that. i was just on twitter reading people's messages. meanwhile, this story that everyone is talking about, a 17-year-old endangered go rigga shot and killed after a little boy slipped into his habitat. this is a story with many different sides and terrifying video. we will explore it next for you. also, we do want to remember the fallen on this memorial day. oh, look... ...another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair works... ...in one week. with the... fastest retinol formula. ...to visibly reduce wrinkles. neutrogena®.
♪ welcome to our special memorial day edition of "new day." this is arlington, where president obama will be there? just a few hours to lay the wreath at the tomb of the unknowns. this would be his final memorial day as president. witch barbara starr there live, always a heavy heart, but rich purpose in being there on this day. >> reporter: good morning, chris, from tarlg are arlington national cemetery, of course one
of the great nation's treasures, more than 400,000 people laid to rest here. we are here in a very poignant place, section 60. this is the place, of course, so many young american who is fell on the battlefields of iraq and afghanistan are laid to rest here. i want to pan the camera over right away and show you. cemetery gates have only been open a little more than half an hour, and already you see so many people coming to pay their respects. families, husbands, wives, children, grandchildren, grandparents. you see military buddies coming. we have come here for so many years. we see families return year after year, they spend the day, they vivid their loved ones. this is the place where the nation's history is written. service members who fell on the battlefields of fallujah,
ramadi, baghdad, who, in jalalabad, in kandahar, names back in the news, but these are americans very much remembered on this day. when we first started coming to section 60, much of this was a green open meadow, and of course over the years more and more americans laid to recent here. people coming to pay their respects on memorial day, 2016, that is a striking visual. thank you for bringing us what's happening there today. soot story that's getting so much attention. the senate zoo getting hammered by critics, live individual over the death of a gorilla, but zoo officials insist they had to kill the gorilla to save the little boy who slipped into the enclosure.
what have you learned, jessica? >> reporter: alisyn, the boy was in imminent danger. that's the word from the zoo director thain maynard, that the team had to moved in quickly and their only option was to shoot and kill the gorilla. he says the team tried other tactics, the gorilla did not respond. they also said that training we liesers would have taken far too long to take effect and the boy was in danger. maynard released the statement that they are saddened and heart-broken at the death of harumbe, but they had to act quickly. the anger is boiling over, an online petition that is called for 20,000 signatures but the police and district attorney have not commented yet as of
charges that may have been filed. the boy is now at home recovering. >> thank you so much for that, jessica. you don't know -- you're watching -- imagine being the mother, you're watching it unfold. is it really going to -- >> ten minutes. >> really i can't imagine it. >> was the enclosure safe enough? legitimate issue. was the parent diligent enough? legitimate issue. but once your child is in the grasp of a 450-pound gorilla, is the gorilla innocent victim? of course, but what other choice do you have? they say if they shot with a tranquilizer, they say it may have made him more angry. >> that is true. two other female gorillas were in, and they werible to lure them out, he stayed. in other words, they tried to do
the peaceful passive thing. >> it's just twitter, but literally it's like 8 to 1 they shouldn't have shot the gorilla. really? anyway, today is an important on today. it's about those who gave their lives for the freedoms that you and we enjoy. we're going to speak with author and filmmaker sebastien younger. he wrote a new book about vets and the difficulties they face coming home. if you care, you'll listen and act. everything you're pretty good at now, you were once, well, pretty bad at. but you learned.
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is. today is memorial day, it is day we honor the men and women who have paid the ultimate price for their country. this filmmaker has seen the -- he's the author of "tribe" on homecoming and morninging. this is a great book for people to read. it will orient them to so many different themes, how it manifest in our veterans who return. what is your core motivation in this?
i wondered why our society, which is so wonderful in so many way, why it's not appealing for our receipt advance returning, and i read something from, that colinists had rough on to the indians, and not one indians -- and it reminded me of the soldiers not wanting to come home form my book is an attempt to explain that. >> as you know, you've been a mentor for me for many years, your ability to go in and experience close quarters what men and women do, how it goes so wrong for so many is unique, special and powerful. what does that bring to you in terms of perspective on this day, on decoration days, memorial day.
memorial day is -- i wasn't a soldier, obviously, but i lost a close friend, a journalist who died in libya, and i got an e-mail from a veteran after the terrible news, and he said you now understand the core truth about war. it's not that you might get killed out there or whatever, it's guaranteed you are to lose your brothers, and it's very important to keep that in mind. thematically consistent with what you talk about in the book, decoration day was not a given, what we now call memorial day. it took time. that tendency to forget. we all say we support the troops, but the tepidancy to
forget, how can we improve that? >> well, we evolved as a species to live in small groups, in a changing environment, and we had to adapt. i think there's probably some benefit to not hanging on to the past. sort of evolutionary benefit, but we now have changed our circumstances radically. we live in a society where we have changeling our surroundings. it's extremely important for a political, cultural unity to maintain a powerful connection to what got us here historically, and to appreciate the sacrifice and understand the problems. it's absolutely key to the future. >> when you see what's going on in gee or politics, specifically the efforts in the war on terror as its called here, do you see the present as the function of lessons learn or problems in
dang are or reality being repeated? >> you know, al qaeda and the taliban took root in afghanistan because it was a failed state. it was a failed state, because the soviet invaded it and we armed the mujahedeen, and then everyone walked away, it collapsed, and we got the al qaeda. what i think president obama is doing is trying to minimize our footprint over there, because it's costly in lives and in money. it's enormously costly, but if you let afghanistan or any other state fail completely, it's an enormous danger to the world. it's really a cancer. it's terrible for the people who live there -- >> what works? >> i think the president is trying to figure out what the minimum military activity that will keep afghanistan glue together. >> either you occupy or you don't. i'm not telling anything you
don't know. i've sampled it, you've lived it. either they make it on their own or they live underneath the framework and system of an occupier. absent those two possibilities? >> they've elected a government we're 95% out of there. i think we're finding a middle ground where we're not occupiers, but there are enough special force respect, enough aerial assets over afghanistan to keep the population center safe from the taliban. so i think what obama is trying to do is not have such a heavy presence that we look like open you realize, but if we pull out completely it would collapse. i think he's trying to find the sweet spot that we can live with and they can live with. >> the next administration, are we deeper in or out? >> it depends on who it is. it's such a crazy political season, i would hate to try to guess what they're going to do
with afghanistan. >> sebastien junger, fewer know this issue better than you, thank you. thank you, and thank you for spending your memorial day morning with us. news with carol costello picks up after this break. question, are my teeth yellow? ...have you tried the tissue test? ugh, yellow... what do you use? crest whitestrips crest 3d whitestrips whiten... 25 times better than a leading whitening toothpaste i passed the tissue test. oh yeah. crest whitestrips are the way to whiten
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donald trump says he's the best for our vets. >> our veterans have been treated so badly in this country. >> but are vets convinced? plus -- three's a crowd? libertarians pick their ticket. will trump feel the biggest fallout? >> oh, my gosh! and on the defense. the cincinnati zoo says it had no choice but to shoot a gorilla to save a child. let's take live in the "cnn newsroom." s. hour nation's fall unheroes, today's event, right now president obama hosting a breakfast for military