tv Early Start With John Berman and Christine Romans CNN June 15, 2016 2:00am-3:01am PDT
killer. good morning, welcome st. >> good morning, it is wednesday, june 15th. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. breaking news this morning happening not far from here at walt disney world. a two-year-old boy was attacked by an alligator, dragged into the water. his parent tried to sane him. to no avail that boy is still missing. they have been searching for hours at disney's grand floridian reassortment it's very, very difficult right now. because it's still dark. cnn's martin savage is near the scene, martin, what itself the very latest? >> reporter: john, we're in the staging areas area, by the lagoon. this has been playing out the last seven hours, it began in the evening when a 911 call aim in from the grand floridian, it
was ferred a child had been taken from the water's edge. according to authorities, it was a two-year-old arc part of a family of four visitling from nebraska a. 7 foot alligator came from the lagoon t. father a few feet away, dove in immediately the mother went into the water to try to find child as well, it turned into a horrific scene him they have at least five-to-seven boats that have been out there all night. they've had helicopters up in the air, it's xtremely dark in that area remember on top of that, they've got a dive team brought in. quite frankly the hope has been fading and daylight is going to be the greatest assistant they got. it's still some time off. we expect to get a briefing in the not too distant future. john. >> you need the daylight to continue that subpoena. i know you heard from law enforcement. they never seen ooeng anything like it. thank you very much for that
report. we do have more breaking news at this hour. right now, dealing with a massacre here in orlando at that time pulse nightclub. i'm standing in front of the orlando regional medical center where there are 27 people inside this building recovering from their injuries. three nights igo, a gunman murdered 49 people, injured 53 more inside the pulse nightclub, a gay nightclub. now, officials are focusing on whether anyone else knew. we did get new information, law enforcement tell cnn the shooter had told his wife he wanted to carry out a jihadist attack t. wife also told authorities she an her husband visited the pulse nightclub and disney springs earlier this month. separate investigators say they think these visits were to pace possible location, pace possible targets t. wife told the fbi she tried to talk him out of doing anything violent.
did not notice she says about his specific plans to attack the nightclub or any specific plans. cnn asked the gunman's father whether he thought the wife might have been involved. can we just ask one question. it is that norah salmon is cooperating. she told police the fbi, that she, personally, went on a trip to orlando and brought your son to that club. >> i don't know anything. i wait until they talk to the -- >> she could be charged with a crime? >> i can't say. >> do you think that your daughter in law helped your son commit this crime? >> i don't think so. >> is she an accomplice? >> now, the fbi does not believe the wife was a co-conspirator in this attack. vrths are looking into whether
she knew about the plans and failed to call police. there is information about the personal life. there is information he used gay hookup aps and patronized the gay club he ended up attacking. the wife has new details about their relationship. joining me is nick valencia. >> reporter: good morning, john, how familiar was omar mateen with the lbgt community here in orlando? there are people claiming mateen, himself, was gay. the fbi is interviewing people that claim they met omar mateen online on gay hookup aps, this as his wife tells cnn she believes he was leading a double life. >> he did have a different side of him that he could not open up to his father about. the fact that he tliekd go to
nightclubs temperature. fact that he liked to drink. these were not things welcome in his family structure at all. and especially any indication of homosexually. in the islam religion, homosexuality is not that tolerated and especially when somebody a political figure as his father was. it is especially really looked down upon and disgraced and could shame the entire family. it doesn't surprise me that he might be gay. and it doesn't surprise me that he was leading two totally different lives and was in is up deep conflict within himself. >> reporter: investigators continue go over the items they seized from mateen's homes, laptop, computers, cell phone, all digital related med why as they focus in on his widow him they want to know exactly what she knew and when she knew it. did she know he planned this
coordinated attack here at the pulse nightclub? she said she knew her husband had plans to carry out a jihadist-style attack but claims she did not know specifics about that attack. we are learning mateen may have been planning this for week, casing out the pulse nightclub as well as several other locations near orlando. john. >> all right, nick valencia, a lot of new information there. let's try to figure out how it pieces towing. joining us is a military analyst, colonel, thank you so much for being with us. you order nick's reporting right there. they are looking at the wife to find out exactly how much she knew. she knew he perhaps wanted to carry out violent jihadist attacks. she did not know she climbs he was going to attack this nightclub, finding out if she is telling the truth there, that
will be complicated. >> that's right, john, it will be incredibly complicated. one of the big things the note here is the fact that she went with him to many of the places that he was apparently casing and so if he's checking them out for purposes of committing violent acts, it does make you wonder what, in fact, she knew. if he told her, hey, i need go in here for something to get a piece of business done or an errand or one tipping, if she knew specifically or suspected what he was doing it would have been incumbent on her to tell law enforcement about what he was planning, what he was doing and what she knew about those plans. so this will be very interesting for investigators to piece together. she obviously has to cooperate with them if she's going to have, in essence, be able save her skin and the remnants of her
life at this point. >> she is said to be cooperating right now. again, investigators tell cnn they don't believe the co-conspirator, they don't believe that yet t. killer's cell phone is a crucial piece of evidence right now. we know it was recovered from the scene. we know they are able get information off of it. tracing whack whatever communication he had, perhaps with the wife, perhaps with other people, what jihadist propaganda he may have accessed, that will be very, very interesting for officials. >> that's right. ba us the cell phone will show where he was and at which time of day, you no ein some cases, what he was possibly doing or could lead people into that particular part of the investigation. cell phone data in and of itself can also point to motivations, exactly what someone was up to.
for example, he was alleged to have been using some of the social hookup aps that the lbgt community uses. if he, nfk, made contact with people an pet people and worked with them or did things with them, then that also becomes a part of the investigation and could then lead into the theory of the double life he may have been leading. if, in fact, he was doing that, that points to one thing of a tormented psychology that we're dealing with here. in the other case, if he was just using these aps, to, inessence, case the social network, then it becomes a very different structure that we are looking at and a different type of mentality. if that case, it would be more of a sinister killing machine in essence going in there for the purpose of solely gathering information and we'll be right backing some kind of vengeance or proposed vengeance against
these people. >> at a minimum, it gives you new sources, new areas to investigate, new witnesses to talk to. thanks so much. >> you betcha. >> a massacre here in orlando, it is a major part of the presidential race right now. president obama, hillary clinton, they say that donald trump, that his plans to address terrorism would destroy american values. donald trump has already fired back. that's next.
>> all right. an intense search under way right now at a disneyworld hotel, trying to find a two-year-old boy dragged into a la began to by an alligator. police now say it is unlikely they will find that child alive, visiting with his family from nebraska. it has been an unimaginable few days in orlando. first, christina grimmie, a popular singer from the talent show "the voice," she was gunned down after her concert friday night. she died a few hours later.
we are just learned friday's nightclub heater is scouted out a disney venue. they say he visited the shopping complex known as disney springs at the beginning ofdown. that's during this year's gay days celebration. so what will this mean for tour imin the area? more than 63 million people visited orlando in 2014, making it the most visited destination in america. 52 million visit the disney world complex each 84. 52 million people, disney operates four theme parks, 27 resort hotels in orlando. all this is happening as disney gets ready to open its highly anticipated shanghai operation, a half a world away tomorrow. in the wake of the orlando massacre, donald trump accusing president obama and hillary clinton of being weak and ineffective in the fight against terrorism t. presumptive nominee insinuating the president is somehow sympathetic to islamic
extremists as he renews his call on muslim immigrants t. president reacted calling him dangerous, clinton accused her republican rival of destroying american values. kind of a remarkable day yesterday. the appearances of the president, hillary clinton and donald trump in the wake of the orlando shooting. i want to start with a clip of sound of the president that captured his tone and his demeanor. listen. >> we now have proposals from the presumptive nominee for president of the united states to bar all muslims from emigrateing to america. when does this stop? >> do you think the president was feeding the fire here for donald trump or do you think that he was ending it? >> well, i think what he was
trying to do was just bring some facts into this situation and the thought, the hope is that if we can look at the fact of it, we can actually learn how to respond to it appropriately. one of the big concerns about mr. trump reintroduceing the desire for a ban following the orlando massacre is that the shooter's american born some how that's directly related to what it is that he hopes will solve the problem isn't very clear and i think the president tried to make that obvious by presenting facts that push up against the narrative. >> let's listen to a little bit of trump's response later in the afternoon. >> and i watched president obama today and he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter. and many people said that. one of the folks on television said, boy, has trump gotten under his skin but he was more
angry and a lot of people have said this, the little of anything early, that itself the kind of anger he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldn't be here. >> now, it's not clear that donald trump is speaking for his entire party here, quite frankly, because paul ryan, the speaker of the house also rebuicking donald trump his muslim ban proposal. in fact, you sort of look at donald trump's statements in the wake of orlando, he's actually broadening his muslim ban saying we should look at the region of the world. look at what paul ryan said yesterday. >> i do not think a muslim ban is in our country's interest. i do not think it is reflective of our principles, not just as a party, but as a country. i think the smarter way to go in all respects is to have a security test, into the religious test. >> it's as if donald trump has defined what the topic will be over the next 140-some days,
really, everyone is responding to donald trump and his policies here. >> yeah, very much so. i mean, if there is anger from either president obama or ryan, i think it's rooted primarily in disappointment. i think have you two leaders who really are hoping to find solution to this issue and they don't believe that a ban based on their research and tear security advisers is the best solution and believe me the fact that it can actually end up hurting this country more than anything else. so their response i think was definitely rooted in the fact that they think it's a distraction and a problematic one more than anything else and they wanted to make that clear to the american people. >> all right. we'll talk a little about polls, talk about hillary clinton's response to the muslim ban as well. it is clearly, the centerpiece of donald trump's candidacy, no question. thank you. we'll talk to you in a couple minutes. thanks. new stories of survival of those who escaped the gay club massacre. their emotional word next. mom d. she said it's too much work.
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the shooter reloaded. a man told me he was crouching under a table. he became separated from his husband, junior. >> sometimes you don't think about yourself. the first thing you care about your kids, you're not going to see them no more. things, junior, if he's okay. because when i saw him got out, yes, he was, he had blood on his clothing. so sometimes, you go, oh my god, he got hit, but when i was finally got to able see him, you know, he was okay. but it's hard. it's hard t. most thing here was just seeing all these bodies just there in the middle. because sometimes wanted and i don't know what made me do, but instead of running and just going towards -- i was still running, but i was still locking towards that door to see him the way he was just shooting on the ground, just literally at these
people, that were already on the ground. >> a survivor jennett mccoy says she watched in horror as the gunman shot her friend, shot him five times. >> there's so many mixed emotions from anger to frustration to sorrow. for me, it's the people who were in there, bleeding to death. the question of why, why am i here? and why they're not. it plays if my head every day. >> all the survivors dealing with so many emotions. of course, she survived, so did her friend, angel cologne, he's actually here at the regional center behind me, he is recovering. he was shot five times, three times in the leg. t the shattered in the chaos and shot twice more, much later during the three-hour standoff, he came back and he was hit in
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not far from here at walt disney world. a two-year-old boy was attacked by an alligator, dragged into the water t. parents tried to stop this all from happening. to new avail. that child is still missing. they have been searching for hours at disney's floridian resort. the search is so differently in the dark in these overnight hours. cnn's martin savage joins us now live with the latest. martin. >> reporter: john, the crews have been working all night long t. sheriff says that at one point he had as many as 50 different officer that were either on the water or on the water's edge. on top of that they have been using all kind of technology from helicopters, using those stun gun bright lights to try to illuminate the search scene. they've also had firefighters on the water's edge using infrared cameras. they're using sonar to try to search below the water. that i do have a dive team standing by. whether that team has gone into
the water, it's still a potentially dangerous situation they've also brought in an alligator traper. anything that can be done is being done as they try to recover this two-year-old child. but you have to say that after so much time and the way that this child was taken by the alligator, according to witnesses, snatched off of the shore, even though the child was only standing in only a few inches of water the prognosis is not looking good t. sheriff has said in his 35 years, never has he seen anything like that in this kind of a place and the longer it goes on the more dim the hopes are. we expect to get an update in just a short while and daylight will do a lot to help this recovery effort move forward, john. >> in a few minutes, they hope to get that search under way with greater force. martin savage not far from disney world with that search
goes on. we have more breaking news, i am standing out outside the orlando regional medical center where 27 patients remain under care. they were injured in the attack at the pulse fight club not far from here. six patients patient behind me are in critical condition. >> that as we get details into the deadliest shooting, three nights ago, they murdered 49 and injured 53 others inside the pulse nightclub. now officials this morning are focused on whether anyone else knew about this planned attack. law enforcement officials tell cnn the shooter had told his wife he wanted to carry out a jihadist attack t. wife also told authorities that she and her husband visited the pulse nightclub and disney springs earlier this month. now, investigators think these visits were to case the locations as possible targets. the wife told the fbi she tried to 'talk her husband out of doing anything violent and she
says she did not know about his specific plan to attack the nightclub. cnn asked the gunman's father whether he thought his son's wife might have been involved. >> can we just ask one question of news that's broken, it is that norah salmon is cooperating and that she has told police, the fbi, that she personally went on a trip to orlando and brought your son to that club? >> i don't know anything. i wait until they talk to her. >> and she could be charged with a crime? >> i don't know, i can't say. >> do you think that your daughter in law here helped your son commit this crime? >> i don't think so. >> is she an accomplice? >> i would wait -- >> the fbi says it does not believe the wife was a co-conspirator in this, but investigators are looking into whether she knew about his plans
and failed to call police. knowledge of a crime is, itself, a crime. there is information this morning about the gunman's personal life. investigators are looking at reports that he visited gay chat rooms, used gay hook-up aps, actually patronized the very club he ended up attacking. his ex-wife revealed few details to cnn. with me on that and all aspects, cnn's nick valencia. good morning, physical rovenlt good morning, john. just who was omaromar mateen thn responsible for the worst mass shooting in modern u.s. history? there are claims this morning mateen was gay. the fbi says they are interviewing people that claim they met mateen online on gay hook-up aps, as his ex-wife tells cnn she would not be surprised if her ex-husband was leading a double life. >> he did have a different side of him that he could not open up to his father about.
the fact that he liked to go to nightclubs, the fact that he loved to drink. these were not things that were welcome in his family structure at all. and especially any indication of homosexuality. in the islam religion, homosexuality is not that tolerated. and especially when somebody's a political figure, as prominent as his father was. it is especially really looked down upon and disgraced and could shame the entire family. it doesn't surprise me that he might be gay and it doesn't surprise me that he was leading two totally different lives and was in such deep conflict within himself. >> reporter: investigators are looking into those claims. they are also pouring over items that they seized from the home, things like laptops, cell phone, other electronics that could hopefully dpleen more information about mateen's life they are focusing if on his
widow. what did she know, when did she know it? she told investigators she knew her husband wanted to carry out jihadist-style attacks, she denies knowing the specs, especially the specifics here about wanting to carry out an attack at the pulse night clubl. she is respect coulding with authorities. there is also information this morning, john, this may have been in the works for weeks. he was casing out the pulse nightclub as well as other locations around orlando. john. >> all right. nick valencia for us here in orlando. thank you, a lot to discuss right now. i am joined by said risk layton, some military analysts have been involved for the military in the past. thanks so much for being with us. colonel, you know, we heard right there from nick that investigators are looking into the wife right now. how much did she know? she says she knew the husband wanted to carry out jihadist attacks but did not have specific knowledge of the attacks that took place.
finding out how much she knew, that would be crucial, yes? >> that's absolutely right, john. what really is important here is not only how much she knew but what she knew of the intentions and also when she knew it. it's one thing to know something months in advance. it's quite another thing to know something a few minutes before it actually happens. so those are the kind of things that the fbi and other law enforcement officials will be asking her and others that are associated with the mateen family. this is going to be a very crucial case. because it really points to the fact that the fbi has a lot on its plate. it shows how much data the fbi has to sift through between those things that are important and those things that are trivial and it's really the challenge of finding out who is going to be committing a crime and who is actually just full of talk and no action. and that's going to be the critical piece here, what the procedures were and when those
procedures were actually implemented as far as the fbi is concerned. >> yeah, indeed. don't forget, the fbi spoke to this man twice in 2013. once in 2014. they could not establish whether there was imminent danger of this man doing anything. he in fact came off the fbi watch list at this point. we are learning new informationant what took place inside the nightclub during those absolutely horrific three hours. the fact that this man among other things seemed to be obsessed with shooting dead bodies. that's just diabolical and barbaric. but something we did see in paris in the attack there. we are learning ab things he shout. witnesses say he was doing this to stop the united states from bombing his country, presumably, he was talking about afghanistan, where his parents are from. programs that gives some sense of at least part of his motivation? >> it could point to the motivation, that's right, john. one of the things that's
interesting from this purely from an analytical standpoint the fact that omama teen seals to have a mixed up understanding of what organizations he was affiliated with, if the times of assertions that were given to his co-workers are to be believed and if those co-worker's testimonies are to be believed, it's a, you know, you pointed to the fact that he was a member of hezbollah, was affiliated with hezbollah. he was affiliated with al qaeda and then isis, which, of course, he mentioned in the 9/11 call he made during the attack. those are three very different organizations. and they have different adherence, different philosophies, and the fact that he brought owl of that out it really shows that he was more interested in the actual act of committing violence than really finding an underpink for that violence. and the bar baric, that you
mentioned about him shooting at dead bodies, that was done in paris but was perpetrated by isis and other terror groups in the middle eastern region and afghanistan as well, particularly isis. so it seems as if he was radicalized in so many levels, not only from a philosophical standpoint but also from the actual act, itself, and he clearly viewed the propaganda machine that was out there and used the isis propaganda, in particular, as a means to an end in this case. >> and don't forget, investigators are telling cnn he consumed a lot of jihadist propaganda online, yet so much different information come income about this man and what perhaps drove him. in the end all we need to know in some cases that he was a terrorist and carried out an extraordinary act of hate and left so many victims in his wake. thank you for being with us. >> absolutely. >> reporter: all right,
christina, back to you in new york. i spent so much time over the last day talking to some survivors, talking to some of these people who have friends inside and it's just remarkable to go places, you know, and talk to a survivor, samuel maldonado, i spoke to, he swiefbd, his husband swiefbd, also, he hasn't slept since the events saturday night. on the one hand he's so grateful he is okay and his husband is. at the end, before i was saying good-bye to him, did you know people who did not survive? he then proceeded to list fames. he started naming people and he went on, it just didn't stop. after ten, i said, please stop. i understand, you lost a huge percentage of his friends and the people he was close to. this community here is still just rocked. >> greefk, at the same time, you hear gratitude from some of the survivors who are thanking hospital workers and thanking other club-goers for their help getting out of the venue.
the gratitude has really moved me as well. all right, john, thank you for. that we will continue on our coverage in the massacre in orlando. it's dominating the presidential race. president obama and hillary clinton saying that donald trump is out to destroy american values. speaker house paul ryan also denouncing trump's immigration proposals, trump firing back next. when consultant josh atkins books at laquinta.com.
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nightclub shooter skoutd out a venue ahead of the attack on the club. the shooter visited the entertaining shopping complex known as disney springs the beginning of june, during gay days celebration. so what does this men for tourism? 63 million visit id in 2013, 52 million visit the disney complex each year. they operate four theme parks and hotels in orlando. all this as they open their highly anticipated shanghai operation half a world away tomorrow. a firestorm in the wake of the nightclub massacre, donald trump accusing hillary clinton and president obama of being weak and ineffective in the fight against terrorism t. presumptive nominee insinuating the president is somehow sympathetic islam extremists as he renews his call on a ban on muslim immigrants t. president
calling trump dangerous. clinton accusing her republican rival of trying to destroy american values. speaker of the house paul ryan saying that the presumptive nominee muslim ban is not a religious test we should have in this country, but a security test would be better. eugene scott, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. >> i want to listen to a piece of sound of hillary clinton speaking in pittsburgh yesterday, listen. >> donald's words are especially nonsensical. because the terrorists who carried out this attack wasn't born in afghanistan, as donald trump said yesterday. he was born in queens, new york, just like donald was, himself. so muslim bans and immigration reforms would not have stopped him. it would not have saved a single
life in orlando. >> remarkable, really, the response, yesterday the president, hillary clinton, even paul ryan speaking yesterday that a religious test or a religious ban not appropriate here. >> yeah, very much so. voters on boat sides of the aisle are really looking for solutions to this issue. i think this incident in orlando deeply acted everyone on various sides of the political spectrum and everyone i think involved at that level knows at the top political level knows the best way to find solutions is to atres the facts. so there will be a lot of fact checking when you have candidates promoting ideas that actually aren't accurate. we saw it not only with hillary clinton and barack obama and
ryan. >> the poll yesterday came out. hillary clinton 49%, donald trump 37%, carry e gary johnson, 9%. give me a sense here how donald trump is trying to retake the top of the polls at least, retake momentum with this terror attack in orlando? i mean, it really plays to his strengths, politically speaking at least, plays to his strengths. he wants to appear strong and decisive about terrorism coming home. >> very much so. as much criticism as he has received from both sides of the grateful for this muslim ban. that's an issue that resonates very well with his base and his supporters. so it's not a surprise that he's made that on them again. he was first and eager to jump out addressing this issue and attributeing it to terrorism before all the facts were out. the challenge with that, even though that has worked well for
him in the past and that's what his supporters like to hear, that's just not true right now, at least the specific fact regarding the shooter was an immigrant. we now know that is not true. so he's going to have to find a way to stay on message but for it to be facttual because if he does not, he's going to continually be caught up. not just by the president, by his supporters as well. >> it's interesting the shooter talked about the united states bombing, quote, my country. >> that plays into donald trump's world view here that this person was an american citizen, but didn't relate to or wasn't really american. >> yeah, this is not a new approach by donald trump. we seen for years, one of the main attacks that he has against president barack obama was that he was not american in a traditional sense or as american as other americans were. that's going to be deeply problematic moving forward as hillary clinton seeks to reach
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at this hour. >> this is just a horrible story. there was a family on vacation at disney world resort. their toddler's playing in a lagoon and the baby gets attacked by an alligator. the father winds up having to go into the water, taking on the alligator. all of these people looking on, and now a search for this toddler. just unimaginable grief in orlando to begin with. now this. let's get right to boris sanchez, live near the disney resort with details. boris, what do we know about the search? >> reporter: good morning, chris. right now officials are just really hoping for a miracle and tell us every moment that passes it's less and less likely they're find the boy alive. so many hours that the search has been ondoing. this is horrifying for this family. on vacation in the happiest place on earth and now are dealing with this brutal, brutal tragedy. a desperate search underway as a luxury disney resort near orlando.
by air, and in the water, for a 2-year-old boy snatched and dragged away by an alligator at disney's grand floridian resort. the toddler was waiting near the shore of a man-made lake with his family nearby. >> we're putting everything effort into locating the child, and trapping this alligator. >> reporter: the toddler's father jumping into the water to try to pull his son from the grips of the gator to no avail. the tragic incident occurring shortly after 9:00 p.m., according to law enforcement officials. lining up with horrified disneygoers watching the search unfold. police putting up tape outside the grand floridian directly akr across from disney world. disney is fully cooperating with