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baptist church? >> i have no information on that at this time. >> were you able to paint a picture about the night of the shooting? >> the fbi is reconstructing the subject's movements going back months, days, hours and minutes before the fatal act here at the pulse nightclub, and that is something we are looking at and scrubbing thoroughly. it's not anything i can share with you at the time. >> what was the make and model of the firearm used? >> all the firearms in this incident have been collected and are currently being processed at quantico, virginia, but i will not comment on the types of firearms used. >> when did the fbi become aware of the april trip that he took -- >> what was the question? >> when did the fbi become aware -- >> i don't have that information. i don't have that information at this time. >> do you think he was casing other targets, and have you been able to establish --
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>> that's a two-part question. the question was, are we aware of any other intended targets. i can tell you that we are continuing to pour through voluminous amounts of digital media as well as interviews and other investigative techniques, and at this time there's nothing to suggest there was any other target other than the pulse nightclub. what was the second part, sir? with respect to the facebook page, that digital analysis is ongoing and i don't have the answer to that question. i'm sorry. >> that was not the target? >> from the review of the evidence thus far, this was the intended point of attack for that evening. >> no other target? >> any firearms fired in that club besides -- >> the question was were any other firearms fired inside besides the shooter and the police. to my knowledge, no, not at this time. i'm not aware of any.
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[ inaudible ] >> i can't share that with you at this time. >> is anyone else being sought currently by the fbi in connection to this investigation? >> i can tell you that right now as we speak there are no impending charges and i think defer to the united states attorney to comment on that, but i will tell you that i gave you a commitment when i stood before you the very first day that this happened. we will leave no stone unturned. that means at the end of all of our interviews, if someone is able to be charged in this investigation, we will bring them to justice. >> were you notified by disney that he was there? >> i was not made aware of that accusation. i don't have any information regarding those allegations. >> what can you tell us about the phone calls that he is reported to have made while he was inside while the shooting was in progress? >> unfortunately, because they are subject to the
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investigation, they are a matter of federal evidence. i can confirm there were phone calls made. we continue to review them and analyze them, not just in content but where they came from, originated from, or where the calls terminated. other than that there's nothing further i can comment. [ inaudible ] >> i'm sure there are but i'm not aware of any. i'm not aware of any at this time. >> are the reports credible that he had patronized gay clubs in orlando? are those credible? some witnesses have said that. >> i don't have any knowledge of him patronizing any other clubs. >> sir, are you saying if -- [ inaudible ] >> ma'am, that's an open-ended question. when we're giving leads for potential terrorist information, they have to meet a certain set of criteria before we can initiate an investigation, and that will be based on the
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totality of the circumstances at this time. >> were his previous visits to the club a casing operation or something else? >> i will tell you that we're looking at everything. i can't say if it's specifically looked at as a casing. we're looking at everything he did up to this attack and as the director pointed out we are looking back to look at all the things in the past. this is an investigation that has no finite end at this particular time, and that goes from the beginning. we're going to go back even further than we did if that's possible. >> is there a possibility that there's a second shooter? >> the investigation is ongoing at this time, but i will tell you that the deceased subject right now is the main subject in this investigation. so we are continuing to do interviews to see if there's anybody that's associated, whether that means they were involved in the planning or the
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execution of this contact, they will be brought to justice if and when we identify someone. >> were there explosives found in the club? >> that's not something ic ca can confirm at this time. >> can you say definitively whether there were or were not explosives found inside the club. >> she just asked that. the crime scene as i mentioned earlier is still being processed, and it would be premature to comment at this time. >> have you finished interviewing the father? >> i don't have any information on that. i'm sorry. that was done down in the miami division and i don't have that information. >> can you tell us the timeline between the first round of shots and the second round the shots? >> that would be something for the chief. i can't comment on that. >> how many hours? >> any other questions? [ inaudible ] >> i can't comment on that at this time.
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>> did he go in that club intending to die or escape? >> that's something we're attempting to determine during the course of the investigation. again, because the crime scene has not been released, i can't comment on that at this time. >> is this going to be characterized officially as a hate crime? >> here's what i would say about that. this was an act of violence born out of hate that inflicted terror on an entire community. i would call it a hate crime, terrorism. both. [ inaudible ] >> i'm not going to comment on our investigative techniques at this time. >> were the other doors locked? >> i don't have the results of those and so i can't comment. excuse me? [ inaudible ] >> is the shooter's car still here? that's a matter of federal
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evidence and still in our custody. [ inaudible ] >> that's a good question. i can tell you that we are combing not just the street but everywhere we believe the shooter to have been, as i mentioned, in the coming days before this event. we are collecting all digital, video, electronic evidence that we can. i would ask anyone out there that thinks they may have something of fbi concern, bring it to us, no matter how small. we want to see anything that you have that you may have concern with. >> are you saying that the fbi was not aware -- >> i'm not going to comment anymore. i've given you my answer regarding disney. >> last question. >> in the state of florida do we have any -- is there anything else people should be concerned about? >> as i mentioned before, there are no current credible singular threats facing florida or the nation, to my knowledge.
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you can be assured that if and when something like that rises to our attention, we will make sure the public is acutely aware. >> when do you expect to finalize the charges? >> i'm going to refer to attorney general bentley to that. >> as i said before and as i said today, we do not know when charges will be finalized, to answer your question. indeed we're not sure what charges will be brought or if charges will be brought. i can assure you that we're working with our law enforcement partners to find out everything we can about what happened at the pulse nightclub. we're using all law enforcement and legal tools to reconstruct not only the events of that night but the events over the past several months not only with respect to what the shooter did in orlando but what he did
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in fort pierce. this is as exhaustive a review of evidence as you will find in the united states. we're leaving no stone unturned, but we simply cannot speculate on the timing of charges or whether there will be charges. it would be unfair to not only any named person with respect to charges but also to the public. we want to keep the public well informed. we do not want to give idle speculation. >> how far are you from wrapping up the entire investigation? >> we cannot put a time limit on that. the only limit we have is we're going to go until we're absolutely satisfied that we've uncovered every bit of evidence that's out there and we've reviewed every possible charge. that's when this investigation will end. it might be a matter of days. it could be weeks. it could be years.
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there's simply no way to determine at this time how long the investigation will last. >> do you have any other suspects or persons of interest in the case? >> the question was whether we have any other suspects or persons of interest. i cannot answer that question directly, but i will tell you that we are investigating not only this crime but law enforcement is talking to everyone associated with the shooter. and that includes his family, his friends, people in businesses. it includes anyone who within what the shooter was doing in the months leading up to the crime. >> did she drive him to the club -- >> is who cooperating? >> his wife. >> i cannot comment on the
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cooperation of any individual at this time. as special agent hopper just said, we are talking to literally hundreds of people, and any cooperation that we receive will be kept in confidence [ inaudible ] [ speaking spanish ]
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>> this is going to conclude our immediate brief at this time. >> thanks, everybody. >> you are watching cnn here. we are live in orlando. this is cnn special coverage. i'm brook baldwin. we are actually just in front of that news conference that wrapped a moment ago so you'll see a lot of people walking behind me. you heard from the mayor here in orlando. you heard from the governor of the state of florida, from the u.s. attorney, from the fbi. not saying a whole lot as far as the investigation is concerned. obviously huge kudos go out to law enforcement here, the rapid response, the firefighters, ems, 911 operators, police, but as far as hard facts into this investigation from over the weekend, not a lot. the question remains at this hour, the why. i can tell you that right now they're honing in on the killer's phone. it was damaged in the assault within that nightclub.
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it's still revealing some clues about the chilling calls that apparently, according to officials, that he did, in fact, make including a phone call to a friend and includes to a local tv producer. it's a cnn affiliate here in orlando. he paused to make these phone calls mid attack. we are also learning from investigators they are still focused very closely in on the killer's wife, what exactly did she know. if she knew something, did she try to stop him. officials telling cnn she admits to knowing he wanted to carry out a jihadist attack, admits accompanying him to two potential targets, including going with him to this gay nightclub where he would then go on to murder 49 people. but again, she's being cooperative according to authorities. she denies knowing anything about any sort of specific plot here at the pulse nightclub just down the street. we also today have new information about the killer's
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connections and the use of online gay chat rooms, gay hookup sites, social media, that kind of thing. let me bring in two voices here, our justice correspondent pamela brown and cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, mark o'meara. from you today we've learned to try to wrap your head around not only murdering 49 people but stopping to pick up his cell phone in time to not only call a tv producer, to call a friend to say good-bye. >> yeah. to call a friend and say good-bye. this is a critical person in this investigation, brook. who is this person, did he know what the gunman was going to do or was he completely in the dark and got the surprise call of his friend conducting a mass shooting. all of that is investigation, but it is bizarre to law enforcement that he called 911 three times. he spoke during some of these calls. he called this tv producer, was kind of rambling there and then this friend who we are still learning about. we believe he's from florida,
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but as you heard the fbi said, they're still trying to learn more about him. but the tv producer is interesting. let's listen to what he actually said about receiving that phone call in the midst of the shooting. >> it was 2:45 when i had just received the phone call of someone claiming to be the orlando shooter. i answered the phone, as i always do, news 13, this is matt. on the other end i heard, do you know about the shooting? and i said yes, i'm getting information. i'm receiving some calls right now. and he cut me off and he said, i'm the shooter. he sounded really calm on the phone. he started saying that he did it for the islamic state. he did it for isis. and then he started speaking in a foreign language. thinking back now, it was most likely arabic that he was speaking. and i said, sir, sir, can you please speak in english, and he started saying i did it for isis, i did it for the islamic
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state, again. i didn't know what to say to him. i was just blown away and i asked him, you know, who is this, where are you? and he told me that's none of my f-ing business. >> we'll bring pamela and mark back in in a second. so gracious to join us, governor scott, here in florida. i'm so sorry we're seeing each other under these circumstances. you were just part of this briefing. the obvious number one question is based upon what you know, what you can share, what more do you know about the why? >> we don't know. law enforcement is doing a good job putting out information as quickly as they can. this investigation is going to take a while. the fbi is very thorough, the police department is doing a great job, the sheriff's department, everybody is working hard to try to find out what happened. we're thinking about the families. when you sit down with the family -- i talked to a mom yesterday who recounted the last day of her son's life and how he
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bled to death because somebody told her about it. i talked to a dad who was worried about his son and why didn't we share better information because he doesn't want it to happen to somebody else. >> between who? >> the federal and local. they're grasping, grieving. these were young people that died. it's a gay community, a hispanic community. this is a loving community and your heart goes out to them. everybody says we've got to destroy isis, change what we're doing, vet that or do something different. that's what everybody is saying. >> governor, what about the wife? i just have to ask you these questions and you can tell me you can't tell me, but what about the wife? we know that she went with him to this pulse nightclub. apparently she went with him and investigators are calling it sort of surveilling disney springs. how much did she know? >> you hear the stories that are coming out and think why didn't -- is there somebody that could have said something to stop these 49 lives from being slaughtered, murdered.
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>> you don't know anything more? >> no. >> where is she now? >> i'm not sure. law enforcement will dispose all that in due time as they do their investigation and come out with things. >> do you have any idea why he chose this club? >> clearly he was radical islam, isis, clearly an attack on the gay community, attack an his hispanics. >> he seemed confused, hezbollah, isis, gay community. >> there's so many unanswered questions. but this state is going to come back together. our nation will. but we got to change what we're doing and figure out how to destroy isis. >> i was talking to someone yesterday who rescued someone from the club -- >> i met with chris hanson yesterday. >> all the stories are coming out at the same time he's telling me he's asleep but he's screaming run in his sleep. there were fears, deep fears in this community, not only the gay community but in orlando over all. how would you even begin to allay those fears? >> i said in the press conference a few minutes ago, first thing we have to do, we
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have to love each other. on top of that, we have to respect what people are going through right now, give them space. we don't need protestors. that's not right. these people didn't -- this act against their family, they don't need protestors protesting. they need people to give them space and let them grieve. this community which it's doing is coming together and taking care of everybody. we have great law enforcement, attorney general, doing all the right things in our state but give them time and let them grieve. >> governor scott, thank you for taking the time. i am so sorry. it's supposed to be a safe haven for the gay community here in orlando. thank you very much for your time. i'm brook baldwin about a block away from the nightclub. joining me anderson cooper. >> i want to bring in art roderick, a former assistant director for the u.s. marshal's office.
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also a national security consultant, former assistant secretary of homeland security. we heard that the fbi is appealing for information. >> that's what we call crowd sourcing and investigation. there's a couple reasons why they're doing that. i think they find it inconceivable that someone planned and executed an attack like this without anyone else knowing, whether it's the wife or others. much like what happened with the boston marathon they're saying what do you know, can you help us. >> somebody out there may know something. >> and may not know that they know it. it's sort of they're just appealing to a larger group of people than they have now and essentially i think it's inconceivable to them and inconceivable to a lot of us that someone could have done something like that. >> because of the complexity of it or the time it would take? >> i think it's just the magnitude. >> people talk. >> people talk. he clearly wanted to be known. so he wasn't shy about his anger. just the idea that he could walk in, kill 50 people, and no one
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knows except for possibly the wife and i think that's what the fbi wants to make sure, that there are no accomplishes. >> going back years he was saying derogatory comments about gay people and others and talking about radical islam so much so that co-workers reported him to the fbi and was interviewed twice by the fbi. so they're going back years probably. >> they're trying to reconstruct his life is basically what they're doing. we saw this same thing in san bernardino, almost the exact language coming out. remember they had a gap in time and they were trying to fill that 15, 20 minute gap in. they're trying to fill this shooter's life in so they're casting a very wide net to pull in as much information as they can and work up a timeline and go bit by bit. this is actually comforting to hear because it means they've got a lot of information already and they're just trying to fill in those gaps. >> they've recovered his phone from the club. one hopes that he's basically an idiot, that he doesn't know about software. i say that not just to --
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because i think he's an idiot but at one point he was talking about al-nusra, isis, hezbollah. these are radical islamic groups but from different perspectives so you can't pledge allegiance to hezbollah and isis and al-nusra. >> i think this is different from san bernardino and boston. i think this was a suicide. i think he knew -- everyone was going to know he was part of isis and he was going to do. remember boston and san bernardino they tried to get away. >> this guy did leave the club and was pushed back in. >> he did. but he didn't appear to have an exit strategy and then goes down in a shooting spree. if he had no exit strategy then we have to believe he did not enscript anything. he wants people to know about his hatred, whether it's homophobia, isis, al qaeda. we think we're going to have a eureka moment and i have to warn
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you, there is no eureka moment. he had hatred. he found it with a combination of terrorism and homophobia. >> for some of these people does identifying with a group like isis give a justification for their hatred? he's now among people who might admire him, he's not just some murdering thug, he's somebody who allegedly has a cause in line. >> i think that's exactly what he was doing. it's quite obvious from his tactics and from what he did, calling the tv producer, doing the 911 calls, that he's been on the website checking out how do you pull something off like this. if you look at as spire magazine and some of the websites, this is how you do it. if you look at what he did, right down the line. >> we're going to have a lot more. guys, thank you very much. brook, back to you. >> anderson, thank you so much
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here. for the very first time we are hearing now what first responders did, their heroism when so many of these young men and women were tearing out of that nightclub in the wee hours of sunday morning. my exclusive with a 35-year veteran, this lieutenant who happened to be one of four on duty when the calls came in just next door. also ahead more breaking news from orlando, an alligator snatching a 2-year-old little boy at a disney resort at this lagoon, now the desperate search under way, disney has closed all of its beaches. we will take you there and tell you what we know. and politics today, democrats right now filibustering on the senate floor over individuals on the terror watch list being able to buy guns. it's a huge, huge, huge moment in washington. stay here. i'm brook baldwin in orlando. this is cnn's special live coverage. (vo) whatever your perfect temperature...
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you're watching cnn's special live coverage here in orlando. we just heard from the governor of florida, governor rick scott. also heard from the fbi. one note, they did say that they are putting all of the gay clubs here in orlando on a heightened alert. we'll be talking to one of the owners of a huge club here, his
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response to that and what they'll be doing in anticipation of this next weekend. let me continue my conversation with mark o'hemeara and pamela brown. we were listening to this local tv producer who received this call from the shooter mid massacre, speaking in arabic, we don't know, saying this is for the islamic state and you also know he called a friend. >> that's right. he called a friend to say good-bye apparently and perhaps there were other calls made. we heard from the fbi confirming there were calls seemingly outside of the 911 call just based on what i heard the fbi in charge say. beyond that they're looking at the phone, brooke, and looking at those calls -- >> his phone? >> his phone was damaged. it was submerged in blood and water. but the laptop has provided some useful information to investigators. we've learned that there are
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actually websites that he had been searching that were gay websites and he was in these gay chat rooms for some time. communicating with transgender women and gay men? >> compact exactly. my colleague spoke to one of the men on grinder and said he was being annoying and kecreepy ande blocked him. his profile was saying that he was married with a child so he was very open with his situation. this person said not only was he on grinder but he went to that nightclub several times and people had seen him there. there's a lot that isn't adding up and adding to the perplexity of this hate crime and terrorism as we heard the fbi say today. >> reading the reports saying he was curious about the life-style. i don't understand. >> how disconnected he is with human quality. you're on the phone having killed 20, 30 people at this
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point, on the phone talking to a friend. it's important that you say good-bye to him. or talking to some producer saying i want you to know i'm here. that's complete -- >> or i'm saying good-bye because i know i'm going to die. >> that's significant. >> the wife, to either of you, she went to pulse. again, you're married, you're going in a gay nightclub. some folks do that for fun to go to dance. i'm not sure if that's what they were doing. we know he cased out disney springs. >> yeah. i don't want to take away from you but i can tell you just from speaking to my law enforcement sources, she's under a lot of scrutiny right now, and what they're looking at is whether they can charge her with a felony called misprison which is concealment or knowledge of a crime. she told investigators that she knew her husband wanted to commit an act of jihad, that he expressed this to her.
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having come through the experience of newtown, i've had enough. it's been four years and nothing
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has been done despite the fact that 90% of the american public wants us to act. the vast majority of gun owners want us to expand background checks. polls suggest that 80% of americans believe that people on the terrorist watch list shouldn't be able to buy guns. there's no controversy out there about these two provisions. we can work it out. >> that's democrat chris murray now in his third hour of filibustering on the senate floor demanding congress take action to ban people on the terror watch lt from actually buying guns. he has a unique perspective. when he served in the house, his district included newtown, connecticut. we're on capitol hill. what are you hearing from people at capitol hill about the idea of anything actually changing? >> reporter: there are certainly discussions that are happening right now, anderson, but it's unclear whether or not it will
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actually lead to legislation that could pass both chambers of congress and be signed by the president. of course it's a very tall order after we saw what happened in newtown in 2012. there was a big push of course to expand background checks at that time and that failed. since then, democrats have moved on and tried to readjust their strategy. no longer are they pushing an assault weapons ban, at least that's not at the top of the agenda, the real issue is try to force folks on the terror watch list, on a no-fly list from preventing them from getting firearms. dianne feinstein has proposed if there's a reasonable suspicion that a terrorist could get a firearm and that person is a terrorism suspect, that person should not be able to purchase firearms. republicans blocked that measure in december because they believed it was too broad and would sweep up people who should not be on that list and they have proposed an alternative measure. that allows the justice
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department to seek court approval before determining whether or not someone is trying to get a gun for terrorism-related purposes. democrats bought that in december because they believed it would make it too difficult in order to crack down on folks who -- potential terrorists from getting guns. we've been told that john cornyn and dianne feinstein have been discussing possible areas of agreement between their two perspective proposals but we're not getting a sense there's any major movement at this point, anderson, and separately there are some talks between michael bloomberg's gun control group with pat toomey, republican senator of pennsylvania, who did author that universal background checks bill. it's unclear whether that is something that will get support here in congress. anderson? >> thanks very much. just a short time ago the presumptive republican nominee for president, donald trump,
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says he will meet with the nra about this same issue. donald trump tweeting this morning, a tweet that went out. it said i will be meeting with the nra who has endorsed me about not allowing people on the terror watch list or the no-fly list to buy guns. the nra just responded saying in part, and i quote, we are happy to meet with donald trump. anyone on a terror watch list who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the fbi and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. due process should be put in place to allow law abiding americans to be removed. we should note, david, that this is not the first time that donald trump has said he thinks people on the watch list should not be allowed to buy guns. the fact that he said he's meeting with the nra, that's a bold prove for a conservative. >> it is a bold move, anderson. i think it could help break this log jam. this is the moment, the best
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moment we've had for some sort of bipartisan agreement that would move us forward and ensuring that people on terror watch lists and no-fly lists can't get guns. i think it's important that donald trump has done this. he would be breaking with the republican leadership. there are reports that he would only support the cornyn view which is seen as a very watered down republican counter proposal to what the democrats are proposing. if he goes for the democratic proposal, it could break up the log jam and who knows what it will do to his politics and republican party politics. >> david, trump is holding a rally in atlanta. i want to listen to a little bit of what he said earlier. >> the foundation has taken millions, tens of millions of dollars from countries that want to enslave women, enslave, want to enslave women. as far as the gay community, they kill gays, and she's taking money in. hillary wants to bring people
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in, spend billions and billions of dollars on bringing people in. as to whether they assimilate or not, you make the decision, but assimilation has not exactly been a positive factor. >> david, what do you make of the line he's going at here? >> he's been pushing this for the last few days and i don't think it's helping him very much. right now in the talking political circles is how much his position has eroded, deteriorated politically over the last two, three weeks. the attack on the judge and everything. these new polls came out today, "washington post," abc, showing that his overall disapproval rating is up to 70%. it's in the stratosphere. among latinos it's nearly 90%. blacks it's over 90%. bloomberg had a poll yesterday saying he's down 12 points against hillary clinton. this is a campaign that's in
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some trouble and he's going to have to -- maybe the move with the nra would help him but i think he's got some really strong problems right now. one would like to think that he would find a way through this orlando business to find bipartisan agreement on that as well and not keep pushing a position on a ban on all muslims that's not very popular in his own party. >> david gergen, thank you very much as always. brooke, back to you. anderson, thank you. we have more breaking news from orlando. more just absolutely tragic news in this part of the country. this alligator, you heard about this? an alligator snatching this toddler, 2-year-old boy at a nearby disney resort. now this desperate search is under way, it started last night, still going on. disney has closed all of its beaches. we will take you there and tell you what we know coming up.
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we're back on the story regarding the massacre at the pulse nightclub here in orlando. let's also talk about another tragic story here. disney world, right around the corner from where i'm standing. this first and frantic search and recovery mission is under way still not far from here after this toddler, this 2-year-old boy, was snatched and dragged into this lagoon by an alligator. this happened at the seven seas lagoon at disney's grand floor
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it y -- floor identify yan hotel. they were standing along the edge of the water when he was attacked. sheriff's officials say the toddler was wading in the water. the water was about a foot deep with the water between his ankles and knees. the father tried to pull his son, wrestling that alligator out of the gator's grip but their son bawas dragged away. walt disney world has closed all of its beaches until further notice. we're at the resort with the latest on the search. we all woke up this morning and thought this is the worst possible thing for any parent. you come to disney world to have fun and you lose your little boy. >> it's hard to believe it was real. when i first saw the headline i thought there has to be some mistake, especially when you
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consider that friday night there was a shooting in orlando. saturday night this horrific shooting and now this. it seems like so much for a city to deal with. the last bit of information we're getting is about the process of searching this lagoon. they tell us they've captured five alligators from this lagoon and they're examining them for any evidence that one of them may have been the one that snatched this young toddler. so far they tell us there's no indication of that. during the press briefing there were questions about disney, could they have done something to prevent this from happening. the sheriff said that the company has been in central florida for more than 45 years and nothing like this had ever happened before. he described it as a freakish incident, but he also described a shift, as you mentioned, this is no longer a search and rescue, it's now a search and recover. >> this is a very human experience that we're talking
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about where we're dealing with this family now who, there's no question, will lose a 2-year-old child. it has been now about 15 hours since the child was taken into the water by the alligator, so we know that we are working on recovering the body of the child at this point. it is somewhat of a complicated operation that we have going because this is a man made body of water. it is a sizable body of water, and it has certain systems built in the water way. >> the sheriff also said that now this is all about bringing closure to the family. the difficult thing about this is how do you bring closure to a family who's dealing with this. the sheriff said disney is doing all it can to bring them some
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comfort. brooke. >> your heart goes out to this family. thank you so much there. a spokesman for the local sheriff's office tells cnn that officials have euthanized several gators while searching for this boy. tim williams has worked with alligators for the last 43 years, is the expert here at gator land in orlando. tim, i know i'm sure when you heard this you grieved like the rest of us. >> it breaks your heart. i've raised children and i have small grandchildren. our heart and prayers go out to that family that lost that little fellow. it's heartbreaking. orlando, the happiest place in the world and a wonderful city, disney world, can't ask for better security, better safety. in their history, never an incident like this. >> how quick can this happen? >> in the flash of an eye. alligators are opportunity eaters. they wait for the opportunity. they catch something, a small
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child represents nothing more than a small animal. they sneak up at nighttime splashing, that's when they like to hunt, when they look for prey, and they don't make a distinction between human or any other animal. >> i know you're not a lawyer. this was apparently a huge body of water. we're in florida. we know that there are gators here. i've seen pictures. there were pictures that said no swimming. so that means don't go near the water, but i haven't seen anything that says no gators. what do you make of that? >> in all fairness to disney and anyplace elsewhere there are alligators, florida is full of gators. fresh water, brackish water, good chance of an alligator. you can put signs up all day long. that's not going to stop people from accidently walking down there, especially a little child. it's a place they want to play. people don't see them, they don't observe the signs. they forget about them. it's a tragedy. signs would not have prevented this. i think it's just the fact that
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it's an alligator in alligator country. >> orlando is supposed to be the happiest place on earth and this week far from it. tim williams, stand by with me, please. for the first time we are hearing what first responders did here when victims were running out of this nightclub in the wee hours of sunday morning here in orlando. i was able to go under some crime scene tape and get exclusive access to this fire station five just basically next door to the nightclub. these four firefighters on duty heard the shots from the firehouse. one lieutenant's story coming up next. 80% of women say a healthy lifestyle is a priority.
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welcome back. we're live in orlando. you're watching cnn special live coverage. i'm brooke baldwin. when the killer began his r rampage early sunday morning, those who could escape did. many ran to the nearby fire station, fire station number five, only about 300 feet from pulse. the survivors were running, looking for cover behind brick walls, anywhere they could try to hide from these methodical shots as it was explained to me. some were injured, including the first victim who had been shot twice in the abdomen. i was able to speak exclusively with the lieutenant here who has been a firefighter for 35 years. he was a supervisor that night. four guys in the firehouse. he went right into work helping
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the wounded even as the piercing sound of gunshots echoed a short distance away. here's one part of my exclusive interview with the fire lieutenant here, davis o'dell. >> had you ever imagined you would see what you saw this weekend? >> couldn't. could never imagine. >> you were the boss that saturday night into sunday morning. you were the lieutenant on duty. >> supervisor. >> supervisor. and we are sitting next door to this club. >> less than 300 feet. >> you all had responded to something totally unrelated 45 minutes before. >> 45 minutes earlier we were there for one of the patrons that had too much to drink and we were right out in the front of the club, attended to him and getting him stabilized and sent to the hospital. >> have you thought about the fact that you all could have been in there with him? >> it's not lost on me that he may have been out in the parking lot working up his nerve or could have already been in the
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club but i don't see how he would have gotten an ar-15 in the club. >> i understand you all actually heard the shots. >> absolutely. >> from right here? >> absolutely. when i walked out of the dorm room into the bay, immediately when i walked out i could hear people screaming and running and i looked through the bay door, there's some viewing ports in the bay door, and i saw people running across the street screaming and i heard the steady pow, pow, pow, the methodical pow, pow, pow. i said whoa, that sounds really close and really cloud. >> what did you do? >> got my radio off the engine and immediately got in contact with dispatch to advise them that we had an active shooter situation and that until the scene was secure we were going to shelter in the station. i had already made my mind up to stage inside the station because of our close proximity.
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it's not like the old days, we don't go into shooting situations with the hot shell casing still laying there on the ground. now we've gotten to the point where we let the police go in and stabilize the situation. i didn't know if he was chasing them down the road or how it was going to happen. >> how long before you started having the victims be brought to us right here, brought to you right here, how long did you hear that methodical shooting? minutes? >> you know, it was just over a matter of seconds when the gun was going, pow, pow, pow, and you could tell it wasn't a small caliber pistol. it was definitely a long gun. but because i had to get on the radio and immediately begin transmitting the information updates to our dispatch and at the same time they had realized that this was not going to be just a small incident, they were sending multiple units from downtown to come to support us. so that dispatch was going on.
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we usually stage within about 300 feet, but because of the rifle fire, i staged everybody about nine blocks down the road because i just did not know what was going on outside. >> how many of you were here that night? >> four. four-man engine company. >> as you're seeing people screaming and running out of the club, at what point do people start being brought bloodied to you? >> you know, i had our guys shelter in a safe position behind the wall because i didn't know if there were going to be bullets coming through the door or the window, so i placed our firemen in a position of safety because as a first responder, if you go into a situation and then become part of the issue, you're not going to be able to do your job. so i sheltered them in a position of safety until i saw an opd officer outside with an ar-15 and another opd officer because there was a massive police response, massive police response.
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so it was probably a little over a minute and a half or two minutes of us staging here until i went up to the bay door and asked the opd officer, hey, you got us covered? i'm going to put the door up. there were groups of people in front of the fire station hiding behind the wall over there, crying and screaming, and as soon as we put the bay door up, we had our first person shot through and through. >> what was that person saying? >> he wasn't saying anything. he was shot twice through the abdomen through and through. so what happened when the bay door went up, we immediately helped and carried him in there and laid him down on the bay floor right next to the engine. the medics went to work on him and immediately began to stabilize and triage him. then we had ather victim come in with a shot through the wrist, another shoot through the leg. so the walking wounded, we could bandage those up and stabilize them rather easily, but the man
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who was shot through the abdomen twice was a priority. he was really patient number one for the orlando fire department's response. >> did he make it? >> i have no idea. i have no idea. i don't know who he was, other than the fact that when we got a rescue down here to transport him, we unloaded him in the back and it was a hot scene and off he went to the hospital. >> do you even know how many people you all treated in this makeshift triage fire station? >> immediately we treated three patients here, but because of the location of the einstein's bagel over there, it's directly across the street from the pulse. they were carrying, dragging people straight over to einstein's so they had a building between pulse and that back parking lot. and then what happened was we segue wayed from this treatment area after we transported those patients to a multitude of patients that were right across the street.
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i broke my team up and sent my medics over there to begin treatment over there and we began assembling back boards and we had no idea of the number of the casualties. we just heard it could be 15 or 20. we had no idea in the end how many were going to be. i couldn't have been prouder of my crew that night and the orlando fire department and police department. what i saw was such an extraordinary circumstance that not only did they do everything that was asked of them, they did way more. i knew they were good but they were great. they were great that early sunday morning. >> how are they doing? you all have seen things you never should have seen in your lifetime. >> there are people that are deeply rattled, the dispatchers. they had to take those calls and hear those people. >> they were running out of the meeting crying. >> they definitely were overcome today. reports of a bomb, reports of
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another shooter. we had to move. we had to move from the triage across the street and move it down the street. then we moved it another block. all this was going on over a period of 90 minutes to two and a half hours, and it was chaotic. i'm proud to be a member of these guys. they shine like diamonds, especially the police department. >> lieutenant o'dell. let me bring in my next guest, an lgbt activist in puerto rico who came up here to offer his support. thank you for joining me. what people cannot see is your rainbow vans that you are rocking currently and that is because you've been meeting with victims today, yesterday. tell me about that and how you bought them. >> we are waiting for michael to come out of surgery and we went to get some shoes because one of
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his sisters broke one of his shoes. so we went there and saw these vans that had rainbow colors and decided to get a pair for each one of us. >> what is the theme? you're going to different families. what's the theme you keep hearing? >> it's the resiliency an the strength of the families and the love and they know that the world is standing in solidarity with them. they feel that love and compassion but michael, for example, he lost his partner. he saw his partner die. and now he's just recovering. it's just heartbreaking. >> what about the fear though because we heard from the fbi earlier saying they're telling all of the gay night clubs here in orlando heightened alert, heightened awareness. would you go this weekend to let's say parliament? >> i will. we are frightened but we will not live in fear. we have been resilient and with stood discrimination, hatred, intolerance and violence and we always keep going because that's
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the only way we can live. we have learned to live with hatred so we're going to keep going. >> this hatred is unacceptable on every level. we will talk later. thank you so much for now. i appreciate it. top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn's special news coverage live from orlando, florida. >> i'm anderson cooper outside the orlando hospital. 8 people are still in the hospital, 4 of them critical. we're getting breaking news into this attack at the pulse nightclub right where brooke is. authorities honing in on the killer's phone damaged in the assault but still revealing clues about the chilling calls that officials say he made including to a friend and a tv producer during the attack.
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the producer and cnn affiliate giving a chilling account. listen. >> it was at 2:45 when i had just received the phone call of someone claiming to be the orlando shooter. i answered the phone as i always do, news 13, this is matt. on the other end i heard, do you know about the shooting? i said, yeah, i'm getting information and receiving some calls right now. he cut me off and said, i'm the shooter. he sounded really calm on the phone and he started saying that he did it for the islamic state, he did it for isis, and then he started speaking in a foreign language. thinking back now it was most likely arabic that he was speaking. i said, sir, sir, can you please speak in english. he started saying i did it for isis, i did it for the islamic state, again. i was just blown away and i
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asked him who is this, where are you, and he told me that's none of my f-ing business. >> investigators still focused in on the killer's wife and exactly what she knew. officials telling cnn she admits to knowing he wanted to carry out a jihadist attack and admits to accompanying him to two targets, including the gay nightclub, but denies knowing anything about a specific plot on the nightclub. brooke? >> we'll talk about that in a second. we also have new information about the killer's connections, use of online gay chat rooms, social media, that kind of thing. with that, pamela brown is back. she's our cnn justice correspondent. and also joining her, james koppenhaber. welcome back. nice to you see again. pamela, to you on your reporting. we just played the sound when this killer, this tv producer was talking about how he paused to call him. who else did he call? >> he according to our sources called a friend of his to say
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good-bye during the three hours he's in that club conducting a pass shooting. calls his friend to say good-bye. this friend is a crucial part of the investigation. investigators want to know if he knew anything about the attack in advance or if he was completely in the dark. we're told that the fbi has interviewed him but of course that continues to be an important line of inquiry for investigators. then of course these 911 calls were made and we don't know if other calls were made. the press conference weren't very forthcoming with information about that. we're looking at his cell phone that was damaged during the attack. it was submerged with water and blood. his laptop has been telling. he was searching gay websites. >> communicating. >> right. one person we spoke with that my colleague talked about said he reached out to him repeatedly
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and the person blocked him because he was so creepy. this was years ago and this person saw him at the pulse nightclub. you put the pieces of the puzzle together and it's -- >> he had a plan where he was telling his friends good-bye. >> no one thinks i'm going to wake up and go to the club and shoot it up. they think he was casing it weeks before. we know his wife went with him to these locations. she's claiming she didn't know of the specific plan, but there's a lot to learn about the wife. >> under intense scrutiny was the way you put it before. this wife has been questioned. we don't know where she is. i'm sure law enforcement knows where she is.
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what kinds of questions are they asking of her and how will they know that she's telling the truth. >> they want to build a timeline and take one piece of the puzzle and put it together prior to the shooting but more importantly where have they been and what have they done in terms of casing these places out. she's the best to know was he really bent out of shape on the gay community. >> he was apparently talking to gay men and curious about the life-style. >> confusing point is he gave his alliance to islam. it makes no sense. >> we heard the fbi say this is actually a blend of hate crime and terrorism and perhaps other things are at play. what i think sticks out for me covering this is once again we have someone who was clearly radicalized. all the stuff aside with gay websites, he was being radicalized online. >> self-radicalized. >> self-radicalized. a ton of propaganda on his computer. someone had to have known he was
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increasingly radicalized. why aren't people speaking out and saying something's up with this guy. >> i can't emphasize enough, if you see something weird, we need to report it and stop this before it becomes a tragedy. >> it's being on a terror watch list and not being able to get on a plane but being able to buy weapons, there's a lot to talk about their. thank you so much and, anderson, to you. >> brooke, thanks very much. since we've had the privilege of being here we've been trying to focus on the victims, survivors and the community here. an opinion writer writes, we are lots of things but what happened in that nightclub on that one morning isn't one of them. that is not orlando. joining me now is scott maxwell. thank you for being here. your column was incredibly powerful. what do you want people to know? what is orlando? >> i think there's a lot of
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misconceptions and not because of what happened this weekend but when you think of orlando you think of $3 t-shirts and princesses. i have to admit i learned this, there's a new culture that sprouted up in part because of the theme parks. we've ended up developing a robust cultural scene. i don't know if you've been to the arts center but it's one of the most high tech and biggest on broadway. it's got some of the highest occupancy rates. james beard finalist, a lively culinary scene and really rich cultural tapestry. one of the things that struck me was this notion that pulse may have been a place that the folks who went there like to hang out but it wasn't like they had to go this. this is gay friendly. we fly rainbow flags. i've ridden in pride parades so
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it's a pretty vibrant area. >> there's a lot of young people here, a lot of energy here. do you worry that this -- there were attacks in paris. do you worry about being defined by this? >> that was the first question and my 13-year-old son asked me. he said sandy hook and the other places, dad, that going to be us. i don't think so. like you mentioned paris, if you say paris today you don't think of the attacks, you think of the eiffel tower, of cuisine. orlando had a reputation that will outlast this and i don't think we want to be defined by this. but i also don't think we'll forget it, nor should we. whether it's gun issues or hate issues or mental health issues, there are a lot of things that this state has not been very dpo good at talking about. you may have had some of those politicians swoop in with a lot of attention and then ignore
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them. >> i saw the top brass of the l.a.p.d. tweeting out a photo i think of the l.a. gay pride parade if i'm not mistaken holding signs saying we are orlando. things are changing and i don't know how an event like this will change things for gay and lesbian americans, particularly in this state. but the fact that you have politicians who have not been supporters, at least publicly mentioning gay people in not a negative way is new. and that's sort of interesting to have a politician who has traditionally not been supportive of gay equality suddenly saying they do care about gay citizens. >> i think a lot of advocates and activists try to walk a fine line with that. our attorney general absolutely led the crusade against equal rights and gay marriage. there's no amount of post pulse spin that's going to change that. if she's portraying herself as an advocate we may question that but a lot of people say come on
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over. we'll give you a rainbow flag. just remember that these issues are going to last after you guys leave town. >> there are some upcoming pride parades she can join. >> maybe we'll get her on a float. >> it was a powerful article. i appreciate all you do. up next, another tragic story unfolding in orlando. recovery crews searching for a toddler attacked by an alligator. expect a news conference shortly. also there's breaking news of a filibuster on the senate floor, democrats speaking more than three hours now, vowing to stand as long as they can hoping to force congress to take action on gun control legislation. we'll be right back. this just got interesting. so why pause to take a pill? and why stop to find a bathroom?
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week here in orlando. first this nightclub shooting and then this alligator at nearby disney world resort, the search for a 2-year-old little boy who was attacked by an alligator in a disney resort hotel has now turned into a search and recovery mission. in less than an hour we expect officials in orange county, florida to give us an update of the status of that search and recovery. divers have been desperately trying to find this little boy's body. he was at the hotel's private lagoon when an alligator suddenly grabbed him and dragged him into the water. the father jumped in and tried with his bare hands to wrestle with this animal and free his son. sadly, he was not successful. the child's parents watched helplessly as the alligator and their son disappeared. all of these disney beaches have been closed as a precautionary pressure.
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ramon escobar is at that resort and saw when hotel guests began to descend upon this lagoon. also back with me tim williams, director of media relations at gator land here in orlando. ramon, to you first. you were there. what did you see right after this happened? >> you know, brooke, when i got there it was interesting. it was just after they were having movie night. you know when you arrive here at the disney resort and you check into the resorts, they give you a recreational calendar. on the calendar it says movie under the stars, and that night zootopia was the movie they would be showing close to the beach area. so remember at this time when it happened just after 9:00, this is when many of the parks let out and people are coming from the parks back to their resorts. the buses are arriving and what did they arrive to. just a row of emergency vehicles
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as you arrive at the grand floridian which is the most spectacular of the resorts here. as you go into the courtyard, the grand floridian surrounds the pool and the courtyard and then you have the beach. it was cordoned off with yellow tape. there were several disney folks standing there and people began to amass. they were all talking about it. they had social media information. disney wasn't saying anything. as soon as there were too many people, kids coming back in their strollers with the balloons tied to them, everyone was talking about it, disney started to ask people to please move away and go back to their rooms. as i walked to the back of the hotel to observe the search, you had a helicopter that for about two hours just circled the seven seas lagoon that is just to the south of the magic kingdom. when you come out of the kingdom you can see that big lagoon. you could see these two search boats in the lagoon, go up to
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the shore in the middle of the lagoon, go behind the actual hotel. i could see the beach. it was completely closed off. it's not a big area. i could also see a small sign where we were which was right against the hotel that said please no swimming. there was no sign that said alligator or beware of alligators or beware of wildlife. all we saw was a sign that said no swimming. one of the things that we saw that was quite difficult was what we believe to be the mom. several people pointed her out to me. she was doubled over. it was not -- you can imagine how horrendous it was. she was inconsolable, surrounded by disney staff, including a police officer, and kept bending over and trying to catch her breath and then stand up and she would cry again. it was a really shocking scene. >> i cannot imagine, cannot
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imagine. no parent ever wants to imagine. tim, you're a gator expert but you're a dad, a grand dad. you blink and a toddler -- the toddler was on the edge of this lagoon. how long have you been dealing with gators? decades? >> over 40 years. >> something like this happens like -- >> in an instant. i had one of my children, very young, about this age, wandered off at disney and they were incredible. they found the child. we were panic stricken. it was right there by the tea cups. they do a great job. they're intelligent at disney and it's one of these unfortunate situations. >> there were signs, no swimming. i don't know if there were no wildlife signs. when you come to florida, florida has a lot of gators. if the child was walking around the periphery of this lagoon, it was nighttime, what would the gator be thinking? >> splashing is attractive to
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these animals. it could sound like an animal struggling in the water. they come over to see what it is. if they have a chance to take that animal, they will. at least a lot of things that play on this. nighttime splashing in the water -- >> is it impossible to keep gators out of lagoons. think of the kids. >> the name alligator came from christopher columbus calling them the lizard. that's how far back we can trace the name of the animal, back to christopher columbus. so, it's been around a long time. 20 million years. they're part of what florida is about. >> tim williams, thank you so much. >> a lot of prayers. >> all around in this city. ramon, thank you so much as well. can't imagine seeing that mother. again, we are expecting hopefully some more information. sheriff's news conference coming up at the too much of the hour so we'll keep an eye out for that. also ahead here on cnn, on capitol hill right this very
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the senator who started the filibuster started it by saying i live every day remembering sandy hook. he's in the fourth hour of speaking on the senate floor, trying to get congress to take action to ban people on the terror watch list from buying guns. donald trump is also making a similar demand of the nra tweeting i will be meeting with the nra about not allowing people on the terror watch list or the no-fly list to buy guns. the nra responded and i quote, we are happy to meet with donald trump. anyone on a terror watch list should be thoroughly investigated by the fbi and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. due process should be in place to allow law abiding americans wrongly put on a watch list to be removed.
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joining me senior media correspondent brian salzer. it's a major break from traditional conservative positions. >> totally. he's been out there saying that hillary clinton is going to revoke the second amendment. you heard that from the nra and i talked to a couple of conservatives today who say we were suspect of him all along, and now his doing this is effectively saying you would revoke the constitutional right of a citizen without any kind of due process. that's how conservatives feel and they feel betray that had donald trump would actually go to the nra and say this is what i support. >> brian, you spoke with trump last night. did he talk much about orlando and the specifics of what he actually plans to do to fight this type of violence? >> his main talking point is
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that he felt like president obama is angrier at him than he is at the terrorist who took this action on sunday morning. i was struck by something i asked him. i said what did you mean when you said something is going on with the president. that was widely interpreted to be sinister, even suggesting that maybe the president is sympathetic towards terrorists. he said to me, quote, i'm just asking why doesn't he get tougher on the terrorists. i think a lot of people would hear that quote and say what about the hundreds of drone strikes that the administration has ordered over the years, what about the many actions that the administration has taken against isis. i was also struck by his focusing on the focusing on the president, making this personal. we saw that again today in his rally in atlanta. >> it's easy to say tougher action. does he have specifics? >> no specifics that i heard and frankly i haven't heard a lot of specifics at his rallies either. i said to him what are your sources of information about
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radical islamic terrorism. where do you get your information? sometimes he retweets and shares conspiracy theories. today he retweeted a badly sourced article from a right wing website. he said i have lots of sources but i also get information from the feel of the people at my rallies. i take their temperature and interpret that. i thought that was an interesting sentiment that he's trying to rely the fear and anxiety he feels from his supporters when it comes to this issue of terrorism. >> that's actually a fascinating statement that he said to brian, that he's sort of feeding off the energy and his interpretation of what people in the audience want to hear or are thinking or voicing. >> when you're president of the united states, you're going to get national security briefings. you're going to get intelligence briefings that very often lead you in different directions or lead you to do things that you can't talk about. to brian's point about drone strikes and about killing isis leaders, we've seen a lot of
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that happen, but the president is not allowed to talk about sources and methods and operational things. i think that trump is saying that he just gets a sense from the audience, when the audience in fact is obviously informed by what they learned from us, but a president would be much more informed by what he learning from his intelligence sources. so that might not be comforting to people who are looking for a leader who leads by what he actually knows first hand. >> this could be an argument against what we call the secret war, these drone strikes often happening in secret in recent years. the more we would actually know about what the administration is doing, the more access we have to it, maybe voters would be better off. >> appreciate you being with us. gloria as well. brooke, back to you. anderson, thank you so much.
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coming up next, a cnn exclusive. i took some time yesterday, thank you, orlando fire department, for allowing me to talk to your 35-year veteran here who happened to be on duty the very night of that massacre just around the corner from their firehouse. he shows me exactly what he saw and how they responded. also ahead, they gave an emotional performance hours after the shooting, how members of the orlando gay chorus are honoring the victims here. stay right with us.
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welcome back. i'm ander soon cooper outside the orlando regional medical center as the investigation continues here in orlando we don't want to loose sight of the people trying to battle back from the tragedy. talking about the 25 people who remain hospitalized, six of them we're told in critical condition. down the road is the office of the medical examiner who just gave his first interview to our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta who joins me. what did you learn? >> he found about this the same way many people did. sunday morning is when he first heard about this and eventually went down to the scene. it's important for the medical examiner and the law enforcement to be there. he told me it was really important for him to basically be able to identify these bodies by monday afternoon, several bodies. it was important to have the autopsies completed by tuesday afternoon. so they worked really fast. when you hear about a state of emergency being declared, part
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of the reason it's declared is for the medical examiner's office to get assist. >> speed is important for the families? >> yes. he lives in the community and he was touched by this. it's different from mass casualties from natural disasters or airplanes. these were families who pretty much lived in this area. one thing he told me that i thought was very respectful and interesting was that there are several buildings over there. 49, the victims, all were cared for in one building. they had their autopsies and identification in one building, the shooter in another building. he thought it was inappropriate to have the shooter in the same building as the victims, inappropriate for the autopsy to be done in the same building. he did the autopsy on the shooter himself by himself. that's sort of what's transpiring for him the last several days. when he went to the scene, you've heard a lot of people describe this but he said time
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basically stopped, meaning that there were half drunk drinks sitting there, half eaten food. he doesn't believe people suffered because there was no evidence of really movement among the deceased. these are all the things that he looks for. he does autopsies. in part you may wonder why. he wants to certainly make sure that the cause and manner of death are what you would expect, gunshot wounds, it wasn't trampli trampling. he saw no evidence of that. >> it helps investigators to paint a picture of exactly what happened. they're doing a second-by-second tic-toc of the event. >> absolutely. they want to know, they want to recover, for example, all the various bullets and bullet fragments. were these all from the same particular gun, were they the same sort of bullet, were they these hollow tips that sort of mushroom and move throughout the body or the more high velocity. all of this ends up being important. people ask why do an autopsy at all. these become relevant details.
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i think it was just the respect and speed at which this was carried out that i was struck by. >> it's such a personal thing that he's doing. obviously he's a professional and the men and women who do this, this is what they do. just the personal impact of being on the scene and the sheer number of people involved. >> i asked him about that and all of these -- the positions, the nurses and the medical examiners, they have psychological counsel available but i said during the interview it seems like this is settling in for the first time and he stopped and said yeah, they've been working nonstop and this is the first time he stopped to think about what he has seen. and the families, the medical examiner see himself in a role that's similar to doctors. obviously the patients aren't alive anymore but the solace that he can provide to families -- >> the dignity. >> the dignity. he said he makes himself
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available to speak to any family. if they want to talk to him, they want to hear more about what specifically happened to their loved one. it's not going to change anything but those conversations end up being so important. we've covered a lot of these types of stories but i hadn't heard it described quite in those terms before. >> sanjay, thank you very much. sanjay gupta, an incredibly emotional performance here in orlando hours after losing colleagues and friends. up next, members of the orlando gay chorus join me live. stay right here. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a stag pool party. (party music) (splashing/destruction) (splashing/destruction) (burke) and we covered it, october twenty-seventh, 2014. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because
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welcome back. one of the first memorials for t the shooting victims was held at a local church after the massacre. the orlando gang chorus sang "you'll never walk alone." listen. ♪ don't be afraid of the dark
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♪ at the end of the storm is a golden sky ♪ >> alumni members returned to the stage learning the music in just one day. musicians from far and wide pulling together in grief. here now from the chorus is marketing director and the vice-president. you knew at least one person? >> yes. i actually found out this morning. i have not seen any in the news because i've been going nonstop since 9:30 that morning and last night on channel 6 i actually thought i recognized someone while we were watching the broadcast and i checked this morning and it was a former co-worker of mine. >> what's it like to be here in this moment doing what you're doing? >> poboth of us right now are jt
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focused on what we can do with the chorus. we have so many requests coming in. we want to let people know we are available. it's not like this has been planned. so he was at the center from the get-go along with one of our other board members on sunday, and it was pretty much this is happening, this isn't happening. >> it was really we just took it minute by minute the first day. the next day it was hour by hour. now we're getting to the point where it's day by day. >> to be in a position where you are able to give voice to -- a song to emotions, to a community, has got to be an incredible feeling. >> that is part of the mission statement for the orlando gay chorus, changing hearts and minds through music and song. it's just -- that is our goal. like on sunday, we found out with two and a half hours i put the word out to the chorus, put it out once in two mediums, and we had 48 people show up. we had no idea who was going to show. the next day we had over 70 show
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up. past members learning their parts. we had one gentleman yesterday sing alto at one event at ucf and base at channel 6 last night, and he's a tenor. >> emotionally, you have a job obviously but how do you sing at a time like this? >> you can comment on that. >> you know, sometimes we're crying when we're singing. sometimes you get through it. sometimes you cry afterwards. everybody's different. every moment is different. crying is healing as much as singing is. >> i'm glad you're here and glad you're doing what you're doing. thank you so much. >> thank you for your strength. we'll be back in a moment. ♪ don't be afraid of the dark ♪ at the end of the storm is a golden sky ♪ le when they thought they should start saving for retirement.
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i'm brooke baldwin. welcome back here live in orlando. we heard from the fbi that they are putting other gay bars and clubs here in the orlando area under alert after the attack on the pulse but at this time there is no known credible attack. dan schwab is member of a club that is an lgbt club in the community for 40 years. you slept at parliament last night. it's been also like an asylum, a safe place for the community here. >> absolutely. >> to grieve. >> tell me about that. not a lot of dry eyes. >> no. not at all. everywhere you look, it's just
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hugging and crying and embracing. we have people from the straight community as well as the gay community just coming in needing to be somewhere, needing to be around friends and the parliament house has always provided that for this community. >> thousands of people. it's a massive, massive club. multiple areas where people can go. and so you will be opening your doors on thursday night. that's latin night. >> it is indeed. >> it was latin night at pulse when this happened. what do you anticipate? >> it's hard to say. i imagine that we will have a large number of people there. a lot of the pulse employees will be there. they will be performing. possibly working a bar. i'm not exactly sure. >> some of the pulse employees who were working at pulse saturday night could be there this weekend? >> correct. absolutely. >> can you explain -- i have never -- i've said this before,
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i've never had to worry about holding somebody's hand in public. but so many gay people, this is the reality, help some of us understand how going to gay bars and gay clubs and how it's family because a lot of time you lose your family when you come out. this is sacred ground. >> it is. i'm fortunate to have my family and love and support around me. there are a lot of those that don't have that luxury and, therefore, the community, the different bars, which ever bar you choose as home, is your community, is your family. >> what do you want people to know in the orlando area? >> come out and support. there are funds all over to give support to the victims, to the families. parliament house's efforts are going to support the employees and the family of the pulse nightclub itself. >> you have had ten hours of
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sleep since saturday night, sunday morning? >> correct. >> you were telling me you haven't -- you've been inundated by people, you have been there for them but you haven't had your big cry yet. >> i haven't gotten to see my family since all of this happened. i have warned them, i will need and will be having my moment, my meltdown and it's coming and they are prepared. they are ready. >> thank you for everything that you do in this community. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> parliament house here in orlando, thank you. >> thank you so much. and let's now tell you this. sad news. here we go. some sad news involving a little boy snatched by an alligator at a disney resort. we know now officially that his body has been found. it has been found.
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our thoughts are with those parents of the 2-year-old little boy. i'm brooke baldwin. special coverage continues with jake tapper at "the lead." welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we have breaking news right now. you're looking at live pictures from lake bueno vista, florida. the orange county sheriff will be briefing reporters with news that we just learned, a headline that we've been dreading, authorities have now in fact found the remains of the 2-year-old boy who had been snatched by an alligator at the floridian resort. jerry demmings is about to speak. he said the search had become a recovery mission at disney grand
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floridian resort, indicating that it was no longer a recovery mission, that they expected the worst. the toddler was wading in a manmade lake in shallow waters last night, his parents right there with him. and in a matter of seconds, an alligator appeared and pulled him into the water. his father frantically tried to wrestle his child away from the beast. cnn's boris sanchez joins me live from the scene. boris, this is just horrible news and every parent and everyone watching can't imagine this pain. i doubt, frankly, that any parent visiting a disney resort would think it's reasonable to expect that an alligator might grab your child on the resort grounds. what a horrible story. >> you're absolutely right, jake. it's something that you would never, ever expect. the sheriff deputy i spoke to called it a freakish incident. to give you some perspective, alligators are very common here in south florida. it's built on a swamp.
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so we'll really encroaching into their backyard. and it's staggering to hear this stat. there have only been 300 alligator attacks since 1948. only 300. so they are not very common, especially with an alligator this size. it was 4 to 7 feet in size. that's what we're hearing from witnesses and it's not common, from what we've heard from wildlife experts, that they would have that kind of predatory instinct to go after something the size of a child. again, this happened at night, when alligators are most active. it was around 9:00 in the evening. as you said, the family was out enjoying this manmade beach on this huge lagoon on the walt disney property here in central norz and they -- i mean, they did what any parent would have done. they snapped into action and tried to do everything that they could do to rescue their child. they couldn't. they had boats on the lake, sonar ready, a helicopter, a lot of resources searching for this
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child and, unfortunately, they couldn't find it. they had hoped with daylight perhaps they could have had more luck and in the daytime at a 6:30 a.m. press conference, they said this was still a search and rescue mission. they were holding out hope that the child would be found. sadly, as the days and hours passed, we realized the odds were against this child not oem because he was attacked by an alligator but also because we don't know the child's swimming capacity and the area it may have been in, the temperature of the water is another factor. so the odds, as everyone moment passes, was stacked against this child. sadly, we've confirmed the worst that his body was discovered after it was dragged down by the alligator. in the afternoon press briefing, the sheriff said this is about trying to bring comfort and some kind of closure and hopefully this will get them along that process. as you said, this is horrifying. how d

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