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breaking news overnight. new information from the phone of the orlando club shooter. who he was calling and what he was posting during the massacre. just a couple hours ago, after 14 hours on the senate floor, in the wee hours of the morning. democrats get colleagues to vote on gun control. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm alison kosik in new york. >> i'm john berman in orlando this morning. it is thursday, june 16th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. the breaking news from here. we have new information on what went on inside the pulse nightclub during that massacre. investigators have learned the gunman placed calls to three places. one to 911. another to a tv newsroom. during those calls, the gunman pledged allegiance to isis and then a phone call to a third place to a friend.
investigators want to know if the friend knew if the attack was coming. the investigators want to know about the gunman's wife. the wife is giving conflicting statements and faces a grand jury investigation to determine if she will face charges for not reporting what she knew to authorities. joining me now with the latest this morning is polo sandoval. he is outside the pulse nightclub. polo, what's the latest? >> john, we know it is impossible to explain the unexplainable. investigators can paint a clearer picture of the killer and what his motivation was behind the wave of terror that took place not far from where i'm standing this morning. investigators are weighing heavily on his digital footprint. who was he talking to and what was he saying online? i can tell you lawmakers, one in
particular, a republican senator from wisconsin is turning to facebook and writing a letter to the ceo of facebook, mark zuckerberg, asking he help investigators provide pictures, any digital information that may be on one of at least five accounts that could be tied to the killer. this in an effort to try to find out who he was talking to and who had knowledge of the attack. lawmaker ron johnson lays out the five accounts and some posts that were allegedly posted on there by the killer himself in the days leading up to the murders. i want to read you a few of the posts so you have a better idea of what was discovered. the first, quote america and russia stop bombing the islamic state. he went on to pledge allegiance
to baghdadi. another one, kwequote, in the n few days, you will see an attack from the islamic state in the usa. investigators are looking for information to see who he was talking to online and also on the phone. we understand he possibly called one of his friends to say good-bye. also another interesting and bizarre twist. the killer allegedly made a phone call to a television station. cnn affiliate news 13. hear from the producer who took the call. he tells you what the voice on the other line said. >> it was at 2:45 when i received the phone call of someone claiming to be the orlando shooter. i answered the phone as i do. news 13. this is matt. on the other end i heard do you
know about the shooting. i said yes, i'm getting information. i'm receiving calls now. he cut me off and said i'm the shooter. i didn't know what to say. it was alarming to say the least. he sounded really calm on the phone and he started saying he did it for the islamic state and he did it for isis. >> so what comes next? that investigation will continue to move forward. we do expect some potential new information released later today. also president obama and vice president joe biden will be here on the ground meeting with victims and survivors and those first responders who rushed to the gunfire that night. obviously the president, john, very familiar with that role of consoler in chief. >> of course, so many first responders worked at the orlando medical regional center. back to the investigation, polo.
the wife. there is considerable focus on the wife. now she faces a grand jury investigation. >> they are the ones to decide in noor will be charged in the case. in the potentially first arrest here made in the case. we understand she is speaking to investigators and cooperating with authorities. we were in port st. lucie as she returned home. she remains out of public view. she is talking to investigators and saying at one point her husband said he planned to carry out an attack. is this the attack that the authorities have to answer? at this point, they likely have enough evidence to put in front of a grand jury to make that decision if she would be char d charged.
this community continues to grieve and eager for any new potential information today. john. >> trying to get as much information from her and whether to charge her. polo, thank you. we have details in the gunman's connection to the jihadist propaganda. an official tells cnn the consumption of islamist material and videos of isis beheadings spiked two weeks before the attacks. he was a boiling kettle looking for an excuse to do something violent. this video emerged from the 2010 bp oil spill. this is him working as a guard in pensacola. >> no one gives a [ bleep ] here. everyone is out to get paid. they are hoping for more oil to come out and more people to complain. once people get laid off, it
will suck for them. they want more disaster to happen. it is all about making more money. >> it's all about the money? >> exactly. >> new witnesses are emerging of people saying they saw him out in the gay community. cor cord cedeno saw him and he had interactions with him on grindr. he said one of his friends chatted with him over a span of years and almost did meet him. >> one of my friends actually has been speaking with him since 2007 on and off years at a time. he sent him a picture of his private part and my friend actually was attracted to him. he almost went and hooked up with him. >> cedeno said his friend never
met up with the killer. he doesn't know anyone who did. this is still part of the investigation. in just hours, president obama arrives here in orlando. we will be joined by vice president biden. they will stand in solidarity with the people here meeting with survivors and families of the victims. they will spend time in first responders and medical personnel who treated the victims. one of the things the white house said the president wants to reach out to all of the people dealing with ptsd. the president has been through this before. he knows how hard it is for people to get through this. joining me now to talk about the investigation and where it goes next, general mark hertling. general, thank you for being with us. you were part of investigations in iraq. one of the things you say is that cell phone data, electronic
data can be so crucial. you know, they're having trouble getting the information off this guy's samsung phone. they will have the sim card. >> the forensics although the phone had a bio-hazard on it initially. they can take that out and make contacts and link that with what was on the computer. all of that will combine to give a greater picture of this guy's activities of the weeks, days, months, year. >> that is all key. you were explaining it paints a matrix. you match that from the sim card to the social media posts and location data to get from the cell phone companies. everyone has been cooperative. you can see the movements and what he was doing and when and where. >> not only that, but when they
go into the computer and search engi engines. were there times he was looking more at these sites? what was he doing on the phone at that period of time? can you connect the combination of spikes in jihadist propaganda to who he is calling and what he is talking about and the length of the calls? the fbi is phenomenal in that regard. >> the fbi put out a poster in the community with his face there and his name. saying seeking information. now, you actually were out. you live here in orlando. were you out saying there was a lot of discussion. >> there was. this one event i attended at the hispanic event, they showed this poster around. they said this is the guy on television. this is the killer. you may not recognize him, but maybe you saw him on the street. some people who have seen it on
tv and loathe to come forward on it. when you get them in a smaller group, they may have seen him here. more information comes out. again, the fbi is trying to uncover every stone in what might lead to more information to this guy. >> general mark hertling, thank you. we know you care about the community. thank you for speaking on their behalf. senate democrats right now pushing for new gun control measures. gun control right in the middle of the debate on fighting terror. there was a dramatic moment that lasted nearly 15 hours on the senate floor. a filibuster we rarely have seen. it just ended a short time ago. we will tell you what happened next. 'am.isn't uter... wait. you're real? with discover card, you can talk to a real person in the u.s., like me, anytime. wow. this is a recording. really? no, i'm kidding. 100% u.s.-based customer service. here to help, not to sell. ♪ you wish your dog could fight off fleas and ticks.
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a filibuster in the senate has come to an end with the democrats declaring victory in the first round of the gun control fight. senator chris murphy leading the charge after more than 14 hours on the floor. he left the podium. he announced there will be a vote on closing the terror gap and universal background checks. >> i woke up this morning determined to make sure that this wasn't going to be a lost week. ask yourself what can you do to make sure that orlando or sandy hook never ever happens again. with deep gratitude to all those who have endured this very, very late night. i yield the floor. >> and joining me now is zach wolf. managing editor of cnn politics digital. thank you for come on the show today.
>> thank you. >> what is interesting is we rarely pay attention to what happens on the senate floor. nothing like a filibuster to grab our attention. you have chris murphy declaring victory. this is the reality. the amendment would look to keep those on terror watch lists from getting gun licenses. it would look to expand background checks for those at gun shows and internet sales. it doesn't do the thing that everybody is really talking about. obviously besides the terror watch list is the assault weapons ban. >> the assault weapons ban lapsed more than ten years ago. there's no talk really of it coming back. there's some discussion that democrats would offer it. it took a nearly 15-hour filibuster to get votes on the other two amendments. it is hard to believe that is coming back anytime soon. >> was this all theater? the filibuster? not just what we saw on the senate floor, but this really
dramatic cover of "the boston globe" showing a scale model of an ar-15 weapon. these are the weapons that were used in orlando massacre and massacre at sandy hook. this op-ed is stunning. this amendment doesn't look to do away with that. >> no, it doesn't. you know, at the same time, the gun rights activists have had basically been able to hold off any sort of movement on gun legislation for so long that any movement is movement, i think, for gun control activists. if there is a vote, and something is passed, i think that is something that they can point to. it may not be what they want, but it is something. that's movement in their direction. >> and meantime you have twitter going crazy with all of the different thoughts on this.
we have the nra tweeting. supporters, contact your lawmakers and oppose any new gun control measures. and donald trump tweeting he is meeting with the nra today. >> it was actually a way for him to change the subject, i think. he had been coming under some criticism for the way he had talked about president obama and the wake of the orlando thing. now he tweeted yesterday that he would be meeting with the nra. a lot of people support closing the terror gap. keeping people on terror watch lists or suspected of being terror sympathizers. it is a no-brainer to support this. he changed the subject by saying he is meeting with the nra. they suggested they may not change their position on due process. >> we will continue seeing gun control certainly be the focus of the political discussion.
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gunman's wife face charges? her story of what she knew is inconsistent as we learned who the killer called and what he posted online during the massacre. breaking news. after 14 hours on the senate floor, democrats get colleagues to vote on new gun control. welcome back to "early start." i'm alison kosik in new york. >> i'm john berman in orlando. we have breaking news this morning from here. new information on what went on in the pulse nightclub during the massacre. investigators learned the gunman placed calls to three places. 911, a local tv newsroom. during those calls, he pledged allegiance to isis. then a third call to a friend to say good-bye. authorities have not identified that friend, but they want to know what was said and whether the friend knew an attack was coming. along those lines, investigators are also looking into the gun n gunman's wife. what did she know about the
husband's intentions and when did she know it? the wife is giving conflicting information and now faces a grand jury investigation to determine if she will face charges for not reporting to authorities what she knew. all this and now information about possible social media postings by the killer during the attack itself. joining me right now from front of the crime scene is polo sandoval. >> john, the investigators will go online to facebook as evidence is suggesting the killer may have been online searching for any news related to the shooting during the shooting. this is according to a letter sent by republican senator from wisconsin ron johnson to the ceo of facebook in which he is actually calling on the social networking site to provide pictures to investigators to paint a clearer picture of what happened only a block away from
where i'm standing. according to the letter sent to mark zuckerberg, there were five facebook accounts associated with the killer himself. on the day of the shooting, he searched for different terms. pulse, orlando and shooting. this would suggest he was looking for news articles published during the time of the shooting. that is a fairly disturbing detail to assume or picture what was happening inside the gunman with one phone in one hand and his weapon in the other. next thing i should mention, john, this letter identifies several suspicious posts that are possibly posted by the killer himself. i want to read you a few of them to give you a better idea of what you find online. the first statement here he posted reading quote, america and russia, stop bombing the islamic state.
the killer pledged allegiance to abu bakr al badhdadi. then the telling post as well, in the next few days, you will see attacks from the islamic state in the usa. we know federal investigators call this a terrorist inspired attack and not necessarily in direct connection with a terrorist organization overseas. that will be crucial evidence as investigators search online and some of the phone calls placed by the killer while inside the nightclub. one possibly made to a producer of a local television station here in orlando. i want you to hear from him what the voice on the other end had to say. >> it was at 2:45 when i just received the phone call of someone claiming to be the orlando shooter. i answered the phone as i always do. news 13. this is matt. on the other end, i heard do you
know about the shooting. i said yup. i'm getting information. i'm receiving calls right now. he cut me off and said i'm the shooter. i didn't know what to say. it was alarming to say the least. he sounded really calm on the phone and he started saying he did it for the islamic state and he did it for isis. >> and that news producer is like so many others in the community. caught in the middle of the investigation as they try to stay up to speed on what is happening and what the latest is. meanwhile, hope for healing as patients are being released from the hospital and as president obama and vice president joe biden arrive on the ground to speak to survivors and those who rushed to the gunfire. the first responders who played a crucial role in some of the people that were able to make it out alive that night.
john. >> some first responders worked here at the orlando regional medical center. one more question on the wife. she faces a grand jury investigation. what did she know? when did she know? she has been giving conflicting stories. >> conflicting stories about what her husband's state of mind may be. she is cooperating with investigators and telling them her husband mentioned he plan to follow through on some attack. was it the attack that took place this weekend? that is yet to be seen. it will be the grand jury to decide if noor will be the first to face charges in the deadly attack. >> polo, thank you. we are getting details on the jihadist propaganda. a law enforcement official says the consumption of the islamist material spiked two weeks before the attack.
a source said the shooter was a boiling kettle looking for any excuse to do something violent. apparently up until two weeks before his consumption of isis propaganda had only been sporadic. a lot right at the very end. this coming out as some new video emerged from a film in 2010. about the bp oil spill of all things. security firm confirmed that is the killer working as a security guard in pensacola. he speaks on the hidden camera talking about people making money off disasters. >> no one gives a [ bleep ] here. everybody is out to get paid. they are hoping for more oil to come out and more people to complain so they have jobs. because once people get laid off here, it will suck for them. they want more disaster to happen. that's where their money making is. >> it's all about the money, right? >> all about the money. exactly. >> in addition to this, new
witnesses emerging who say they saw the gunman out in the gay community. cord tells cnn he saw the killer at pulse and he approached him repeatedly on grindr a year ago. interactions he describes as creepy. he said he wasn't interested, but one of his friends chatted with him over a span of years. >> one of my friends has been speaking with him since 2007 on and on years at a time. he sent him a picture of his private part. my friend was attracted to him. he almost went and hooked up with him. >> he said his friend never about meet up with the killer and he does not know anyone who actually did. still he does say there was that connection and chat online. in hours, president obama arrives here in this city. he will be joined by vice
president joe biden. they will spend most of the day here and meet with survivors and victims' families members and first responders. he wants to reach out to survivors who are dealing with survivor guilt and ptsd and how they move forward. the president wants to really reach out and give them a collective hug from the nation. joining me now about the investigation and where it goes next. we are talking to general mark hertling. former commander general of the army in europe. thank you for being with us. one of the things we learned is that this killer was making phone calls or doing internet searches to find out if he was being covered. if there was information out there about what was going on.
what does that tell you about the mind set? >> the dots are connected. internet searches and other things. we know he phoned a friend the night of the killing from the club. as they look at the combination of what's on the cell phone and what's on his computers and searches and reconnaissance of disney springs and club and the adventures he took with his wife. they connect the dots and say who was he with and when did these spikes occur, you will have a better feeling for his mindset. also who he may have been connecting with. coconspirators beyond his wife as well. >> there were things going on. it could be pure narcissism and deranged mind. others told us the playbook for isis to make sure that this horrific atrocity you are
committing is making the splash that you wanted. >> i'm not a psychiatrist, but the struggle with his humanity and sexuality combined with the potential for putting the onus on the organization that's asking people to do this. asking extremists to do these things is an interesting dynamic. that's the thing that makes this case so extremely difficult. >> incredibly deranged and violent person looking for an excuse to go look to kill. cnn's barbara starr wrote on that. we have this other information. the consumption of the terror propaganda spiked in the last two weeks. he consumed a hell of a lot of isis propaganda we are told. before that, it was sporadic. before that, he said things as far back as 2013 and far back as high school. >> was he trying to get psyched
up to drive him to get the courage to do this heinous act? all of that is a contribution to the mindset. >> we are still being told he was not directed from overseas or anyone else for the attacks. however, that timeframe of consuming the information over the last two weeks, they are looking for a trigger. to do that two weeks ago. if there was a conversation. >> you have to consider, too beings ramadan started. the orders from isis in the magazine was doing it during ramadan. you will get more blessings from that. a strange approach. you combine that on the timeline. when did the orders come from the source. permission is the better word. how did this coincide with the spikes? >> we are doing all this
intelligence news gathering and electronic information which is part of the new way of looking at crimes. the old fashion way is the fbi put out a bullet with a poster saying do you know anything about the killer? asking the community to weigh in and offer help. you are from orlando. this is your home. you were at an event where people were talking about this. >> they were. you are talking about the collusion of the social networking. here is the cop on the beat. they want to give the information, but they want to see the reaction. they want to look at the faces and have others look at the faces of others say oh, yes, i do know that guy. that is part of the dynamic. >> a few day into the investigation. they learned a lot already. so much more they need to figure out. general, thank you for being with us. one of the issues discussed around the nation is what role guns and gun control may have had.
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hook never ever happens again. with deep gratitude to all those who have endured this very, very late night. i yield the floor. >> joining me now to discuss this is senior media correspondent is brian stelter. thank you for getting up early. it is not every day we are interested in what happens on the senate floor. nothing like a filibuster to get us interested. it wasn't just senator murphy, but other democratic senators. let's listen to the piece and talk about it. >> i am most of the time around here a team player. but i had enough. >> what we're seeking is not something that is partisan. what we're seeking is common sense. >> we need more than another moment of silence. >> the members of this congress will have blood on our hands. >> our thoughts and prayers for
their deaths are important, but not enough. >> okay. every small step toward gun control can help many say. in this case, others are saying, listen, the big push now is to reinstate that assault weapons ban. this amendment doesn't do that. what this does it bans people on terror watch lists from getting gun licenses and expands background checks. it does and do the thing what everybody is talking about. >> they want it to remain in effect or loosen restrictions. many others in the wake of the massacre want to see something done. feel like congress is taking action. this is the battle. we see it play out in congress. the senate yesterday was considering an appropriations bill. senator murphy took the floor and sent a message on the issue. this was one of the longest
speeches on the senate floor ever. unlike many filibusters which are intended to stop actions, this was intended to force a vote. that is why he declared victory at 2:00 in the morning. we will see if the democrats have the note to succeed. his message in a word was enough. he has had enough. they want to see something done. we should be realistic. they are talking about incremental measures here. i see some liberal writers calling for more changes to the second amendment. that is not what these senators and legislators are talking about. they are talking about incremental measures. murphy will be on "new day" at 8:00 a.m. he will be up in a little bit. >> one good thing to mention, it is not politics, but media. a stunning cover of "the boston globe." showing the scale model of the
ar-15. with this picture is an op-ed. >> this is the example of the newspaper taking a stand calling for more action by legislators are on this issue. we have seen "the boston globe" take the issue. they had the cover a few months ago where they imagined a trump presidency and depicted in scary ways. in this case, "the boston globe" trying to call for action. senator warren was promoting this cover overnight. >> and pollsters are seizing the momentum of the issue in the wake of orlando. a new bloomberg poll that asks americans who would you have more confidence to handle in a situation in orlando like terrorist attack? you have trump at 45%. >> the divide in the country, when we talk about trump and clinton is visible in the poll. these numbers, not quite, but mirror where voters stand with trump and clinton.
clinton has an advantage of who you are likely to vote for in the fall. in this issue, trump is ahead. not a big difference with trump and clinton on this issue. on sunday, we have seen probably predictable reactions. donald trump, however, is breaking with the nra in some ways, saying he wants to see the terror watch issue clean eed up. we will see what happens in the nra and trump. >> brian stelter, thank you. americans are buying guns in record numbers. if history is a guide, the shooting in orlando will spur more sales. the government conducted 11.7 million background checks this year over 8.9 million in the same time last year. sales of smith & wesson and ruger jumped after the orlando
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we need more than another moment of silence. >> refusing to enact no fly, no buy, is political malpractice. >> if content don can convince the nra to move on this, god bless him. >> this is tough to do on my own. but maybe i'll be forced to. >> i yield the floor. >> what went on during that massacre? >> the gunman posted several
disturbing messages. >> will the orlando club gunman's wife face charges? >> we will leave no stone unturned. >> we recovered the remains of the 2-year-old from the water. >> horror at the happiest place on earth. >> we will make certain that we have the alligator that was involved. good morning. welcome to this mar than phfill buster on senate floor, he says he has a deal to have an up and down vote on two different measure thags will make a difference after what happened over our shoulder here in orlando. 49 people lost their lives. dozens others injured after this attack. >> and we're also learning new
details about what the terrorist did during the attack as well as the conflicting stories his wife is telling. so in just hours president obama and vice president biden will travel to orlando to meet with victims' families and the first responders. he's begin with cnn's political reporter. tell us all about what happened last night. >> reporter: good morning. now, chris murphy is nearly 15-hour filli buster marks the longest in the history of the center. it was aimed at putting political pressure on the gop. republicans and democrats have squabbled for months on how to structure such a bill and whether murphy's bill actually changes anything is an open question. >> our leaders have to get tougher. this is too tough to do it alone but i think i'm going to be