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i'm john berman live in orlando. kate is off today. we have a lot going on here on the ground in orlando and in the investigation. president obama and vice president joe biden, they are due to arrive here shortly. they will meet with the families of those murdered at the pulse nightclub, also with survivors and first responders, many of whom work here at the orlando regional medical center right behind me. in the investigation we do have brand new information, information that the shooter suggested he wanted to commit
mass murder as far back as elementary school. a former classmate says he threatened to take a gun to school and kill everyone. also new evidence that the killer paused during his rampage, paused to post on facebook. his wife is now the focus of the investigation or a focus of the investigation. her conflicting statements to authorities about what she knew is part of a grand jury investigation. she could face charges connected to the killings. all this as lawmakers hold a news conference right now on gun reform. we should know soon if an almost 15-hour filibuster that went way into the wee hours of the morning, if it might lead to a vote on new laws to keep guns out of the hands of anyone on terror watch lists. like we said, a lot going on. a lot of new angles. want to beginning right here with boris sanchez on the president's chip. b >> reporter: the president will be meeting with survivors and the families of the victims of the shooting at 1:30 today.
it will be a closed door meeting. the white house has said it is going to be an emotional trip for the president. it's a trip he's had to make several times before, to charleston, to san bernardino, and to newtown, connecticut. the white house said it will be a comforting and supporting trip not only to the people of orlando but also to the lgbt community as well. he's expected not to give live remarks but they will be retrainretrain -- pretaped and released later. the president is a symbol of the country and so it's a message of solidarity that will be given to those who need it most. the other interesting thing is the backdrop. not only senator chris murphy's 15-hour filibuster on gun control but also the icy relationship between the president and florida governor rick scott. yesterday rick scott came out and said the president hadn't called to offer condolences since the shooting on sunday. eventually we found out that last night the president did
call governor rick scott. he didn't offer a public thank you to the president. we found out because it appeared on a public schedule that was released of what the governor did yesterday. so despite the fact he's going to meet him at the tarmac, there's an awkward kind of relationship between them. hopefully that stays far in the background and doesn't affect what the president is actually intending to do here in orlando, which is giving the city the first step toward closure that it so desperately needs. >> politics doesn't need to be a part of much of this to say the least. the white house made clear one of the things he wants to do is to talk to survivors. the people who survived that massacre, they're going through so much right now. many of them tell us they haven't slept. they're dealing with issues of survivor guilt, and the white house says the president wants to reach out to these folks. >> it's difficult to put into words what we saw that sunday morning. i'll never forget watching someone who had just walked out of the club, his sports wehorts covered in blood and he had a
1,000-yard stare. how do you move forward from that kind of trauma and having the president come here again is a symbol of the country showing solidarity, showing the country is behind those who were affected by the shooting. it's a major step in hopefully some day having closure and having us open another chapter not only for again those that were affected but for the entire city as well. >> boris, thanks so much. look forward to seeing the president's arrival and your reporting. we want to talk now about the investigation, searveral ne pieces of information. including evidence that the killer posted online, posted on facebook during the rampage. cnn justice correspondent evan perez joins us with the details on that. >> we're talking about facebook posts not only in the weeks leading up to this attack but also during the attack that the killer apparently made. this is now in the hands of investigators, and senator ron johnson, the chairman of the homeland security, has now written a letter to facebook to learn more about the accounts that this killer had, the type of activity that he had on
his -- the type of posting that he did on his accounts on facebook. i won't get really too much into his postings simply because he doesn't deserve to have more emphasis put on his ideas, but i will mention that during the attack apparently he posted words saying in the next few days you will see attacks from the islamic state in the usa, and he talked about ranting about u.s. and russian bombing on isis territory in syria and iraq. now, we also know that in the weeks coming up to this attack, he was consuming a lot of jihadi videos. part of this process that his wife has now told investigators really reflects a worsening of his behavior, signs that he was getting more radicalized, more violent, and even on the day, the day before the attack, saturday night before he left his home, he told her he was
leaving to go visit some friends. she suspected that he was planning to carry out an attack, and she said, she told investigators, she tried to talk him out of it but she never called the police which is why she is now the focus of this investigation, john. >> she never called the police, which is something the grand jury will be listening to, listening to evidence on and deciding whether this constitutes a charge of misprision. we're also learning about the gunman's distant past, that perhaps he made threats as far back as elementary school. brian todd is working that part of the story. >> just incredible information we're building on this man's past that really tells you there is a pattern of disturbing behavior going back to elementary school. a former classmate at mariposa
elementary school in fourth and fifth grade, he was threatening to bring a gun to school and to kill everyone. now, this classmate says that they don't recall quite what the punishment was for that, but he remembers it was a big deal at the time. so, again, this is in fourth or fifth grade. he would have been at the 9 or 10-year-old range at that point and they thought this was really threatening behavior. but, again, patterns of other behavior that we've picked up. three former classmates at two different high schools in that area have told us that on 9/11 he kind of acted out. he imitated planes hitting buildings. he jumped up and yelled that osama bin laden was his uncle and he got into confrontations with students. there were some disciplinary issues over that. patterns of behavior going back to those years that are very disturbing on the part of omar mateen. we reached out to the school district, and they have not returned our calls. trying to get more on the school system on what the discipline was, but, again, patterns of behavior on the part of this man
that stretched back to maybe when he was 9 or 10 years old that lasted up until his adulthood. we've seen the candidates from james comey about his behavior as a security guard in the st. lucie county courthouse where he made inflammatory comments back in 2013. that's when the fbi started an investigation of him. and talked about all the inflammatory comments he made. the pattern goes way back now, john. >> data points in 2013, 2014, but well past that, 2001, even before. brian todd, interesting developments. thanks so much for that. want to go live to capitol hill right now. senator chris murphy from connecticut is speaking. he staged an almost 15-hour filibuster trying to get votes on new gun control laws. let's listen in. >> -- where that shooter was able to buy a weapon because of a loophole. please welcome to the podium first tina and then reverend risher. >> thank you, senators schumer, blumenthal, murphy, feinstein,
booker, markey, and baldwin for inviting me here today. i'm grateful to you and members of your delegation for taking ox on this issue so that other families do not have to live with the heart break and anguish my family has been forced to endure for the rest of our lice. our leadership has been a source of comfort to my family and me. i am tina mines. my father damian mines was killed on december 2nd last year at the inland regional center while at a work event with the san bernardino county environmental health department when a co-worker and his wife who had pledged allegiance to isis burst through the doors of his office spraying bullets from their semiautomatic rifles. my dad along with 13 of his co-workers was killed. in mere seconds my life and the lives of my mother and sister were irrevocably changed. our family was small but close, very close. dad was always happy to spend
time with us whether it was helping us with our homework, teaching us how to ride our bikes, helping coach our soccer teams, or later just going for long walks with us. we traveled the world together and spent countless hours talking about the importance of helping others and everything else from politics to current events to whatever was on our minds. in our house there was laughter all the time. now that laughter is gone. as news of the horrific mass shooting on sunday morning in orlando began to unfold in front of our eyes and the numbers of dead and injured continued to rise, i was immediately taken back to december 2nd. i know exactly what those families were going through. i know what it's like to get the call telling you the worst news you could ever imagine. and the pain of knowing that this was happening and again in our country to so many families was just too much to bear. each person in that club was
someone's child, a sibling, a lover, a friend. i wish i could say i'm surprised that we're here again, but sadly i'm not. and we will continue to be here again and again if our elected officials fail to take action that prevents dngeangerous and hateful people from getting their hands on a deadly weapon. it's time to disarm hate. one day after the san bernardino mass shooting, congress had the opportunity to take meaningful action to make our nation safer. but instead a majority of senators voted in lockstep with the gun lobby against a common sense measure that would have prevented people on a federal terrorism watch list from purchasing guns. how can we ignore the fact that in this country we make it easy and legal for dangerous people, including suspected terrorists, to commit unspeakable acts by providing them with easy access
to guns? suspected terrorists are prohibited from boarding planes, yet they can still legally purchase firearms. since 2004 more than 2,000 terror suspects have taken advantage of this loophole and our laws to buy guns. i can't wrap my mind around why anyone in congress finds this acceptable. closing the terror gap could have prevented what happened on sunday in orlando. the fbi had investigated the shooter multiple times for terrorist ties and homicidal threats. based on his history, terror gap legislation could have blocked the gun sale to him and prevented the deaths, injuries, and emotional scars on our gelow americans. it wasn't easy for me to be here today. it wasn't easy for my mom and my sister and i to get on an airplane and fly across the country. we are still in very early stages of our grief.
i think about my dad every single day. i lost my father, my best friend in a horrific and brutal way that seems to defy all reason, but that is also why i couldn't not be here today. i want mip story to remind others that it doesn't have to be this way. it's time we take a stand in this country and disarm hate. thank you. reverend. >> all right. you have been listening to tina, the daughter of one of the victims of the san bernardino shootings. this is an event on capitol hill. senator chris murphy from connecticut staged a nearly 15-hour filibuster overnight trying to get votes on new gun control measures, specifically measure that is would prevent, he says, people who were on various terror watch lists from being able to buy guns. he wants votes on amendments to do that and also he wants universal background checks at gun shows and the like.
that is what the filibuster was about and this is an event right now speaking out in favor of those measures. i want to bring in manu raju on capitol hill. it was a dramatic night to be sure. senator chris murphy speaking for a long time. newtown was in his congressional district when he was in the house, obviously part of his state now that he's in connecticut, calling for new gun control measures. we've seen democrats call for new gun control measures in the past when there's been massacres. we've seen them even get votes or be blocked on the way to get votes. there doesn't seem to be a greater chance this time that they will be able to win victories where they failed before, does there? >> reporter: that's absolutely right, john. very unlikely we will see any significant changes to gun laws. really, it's been about a decade since congress has done that. after sandy hook, that terrible massacre in 2012, congress tried to move forward. the senate tried to move forward with universal background checks, and at that time senate democrats had control of the majority and they still failed. they still were unable to get
the 60 votes they needed in order to make that -- pass that into the house, pass it over to the house, potentially get that to become law. that did not pass. this time there's virtually no pass a universal background checks can be passed. the one thing they're looking at is how to prevent suspected terrorists from getting guns. there's a bill that dianne feinstein of california has proposed that would give the attorney general the authority to block purchases of gun sales from suspected terrorists if someone is viewed to be possible on one of those terrorist watch lists, for instance, a no-fly list, but republicans are worried that bill is too broad. they think it will sweep up folks who are actually not -- should not be on the no-fly list, prince, and does not give any recourse if you're unfairly targeted. they're pushing an alternative measure that would give courts actually the say in determining whether or not the justice department can move forward and block a terrorist from obtaining a firearm. those negotiations between john
cornyn and dianne feinstein have sort of stalled, i am told. very unlikely at this point that they can reach a deal. there's probably going to be votes at some point in the senate, but it's uncertain whether or not a deal or actually anything can get passed. very unlikely, i would bet on that, john. >> so votes probable but actual measures taken probably not. not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing but it's a fact right now in the u.s. senate. manu raju on capitol hill for us. thanks so much. >> thanks, john. new frightening terror warnings from cia director john brennan. i want you to listen to this. >> we judge that isil is training and attempting to deploy operatives for further attacks. isil has a large cadre of western fighters who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the west. and the group is probably exploring a variety of means for infiltrating operatives into the west, including in refugee flows, smuggling routes, and legitimate methods of travel.
>> joining me now, george diaz from the orlando sentinel and james copenhaver. george, let me start with the president's visit. the president due her shortly. what does this community right now need? >> simply put, a group hug. orlando is a city with a big heart, a huge heart, and right now those hearts are collectively broken. i look across the street over there, there are therapy dogs. i think a lot of us need therapy dogs, not just the victims, unfortunately. so i don't think this will be a time some people will think let's talk gun control, let's talk war on terror. no, i honestly think this is as much a healing thing and the president of the united states has the opportunity to just hug orlando, if you will. >> the families need it, the survivors certainly need it, the whole city needs it as well. james, let's focus on the investigation for a moment. we got the news that this killer
was posting to facebook during the shootings, right? also making phone calls after he was in the middle of the shootings. what does that tell you about him? >> literally he was nonstop on his cell phone from 2:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. until he was taken out by the s.w.a.t. team. to me it shows he had this planned out. i think he was very methodical in terms of what he was intending to do and he knew he was not going to walk out of that building alive. >> we had some new reporting i'm just being told in my ear, drew griffin is being told the gun store that sold the weapons to the quill killer, they knew say were suspicious of him. if that's the case, you know, what do investigators take from that? do they have any culpability here. no, right? >> absolutely not. it's gone back to san bernardino. we had neighbors that literally had seen bomb making material at the house of the bad guys but didn't report it. we're living in a climate that
everyone is so in fear of being called a racist or bigot, we're not saying the proper things we should be to the authorities. >> the killer went into the store, asked for body armor. very, very high grade body armor. the store didn't have it, and now the store's manager is telling drew griffin, he was suspicious of that effort to purchase it. >> not being there and not armchair quarterbacking the gun store owner, he probably will you should have alerted the local authorities and if not, there needs to be some poll at this out of tallahassee or out of the federal government to mandate the gun store owners to alert officials if they see something suspicious. >> it gets to the discussion on capitol hill with people on the terror watch list. it's not exactly analogous but you want people to come forward if there are suspicions. let me ask you about the community. you talk about the need for a group hug which is definitely what this city needs. how much interest do you think there is in the investigation? do people here want to hear?
do people in the city want to hear all the new details? >> i think it dove tails into a lot of different issues for different people. some people are really upset about the gun control. some people are upset about terrorism. it's just -- it's such a personal -- it's such a personal tragedy for everyone. some people just want to tune it out and forget about things. i mean, we live in this place that we call literally the magical kingdom, right? well, look what's happened the last three days. we had that horrific shooting friday, then what happened saturday night, and then a child is attacked and killed by a gator on disney property. it's unfathomable that all of these things are happening, this convergence of dark side just kind of engulfing orlando. so i think it's -- for some people it's really hard to handle because there's so much to process. so that's a tough question to answer. there's just i think it becomes an issue of where you're at and
where your beliefs are and, frankly, i think just a lot of people are crushed by this. >> i was talking to a hospital official this morning who told me that after the killings here, there was the alligator incident and they were alerted they may have to treat a little boy who had been attacked by an alligator. i know it sounds so different but basically these medical professionals deal with so much. essentially they're like we can't handle anymore. we've dealt with so much grief, so much tragedy. it was one too many things at that point. george, james, thanks so much for being with us. i appreciate it. >> thanks. all right. she still has shards of glass in her arms and legs. ahead, i speak to a survivor of the attack. she is dealing with so much anxiety, fear, and, yes, also guilt. we hear that from everyone involved in this situation. she's been afraid to go anywhere for days after the massacre. that's next. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, the possibility of a flare was almost always on my mind.
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cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins me now. you spoke with the doctor involved here. >> look, he's a veteran. he's seen a lot of things. he's been doing this a long time and even mass casualties, aviation disasters, natural disasters, and i asked him to describe it. how he would describe it to other people. here is what he said. >> it's almost like time stopped. there was still things, break ground tv is playing, lights blinks, drinks that had just been poured, checks about to be paid, food half eaten, and that's not even thinking about the bodies on the ground. but when you actually see everyone lying down in one place or everyone down in one place or their final positions, you can feel it. >> it was really important, john, for him to have all the
bodies identified as quickly as possible, have the autopsies performed within a day after that. out of respect for the families. there's no exact protocol or sort of time line for these sort of things, but they moved very, very fast to do this. i'll share something else with you that i thought was poignant was the shooter was transported separately from all the other victims, was in a different building than all the other victims. he didn't think it would be appropriate to do the oon on aun the same building. when the autopsy was performed, he did it by himself. as of last night the shooter's body had not yet been claimed by anybody. >> it's fascinating. that level of concern. that level of concentration on the task there and the care for the families involved is remarkable. sanjay, thanks so much. >> thank you. a had a chance to speak to one of the pulse survivors, julian ammador. the injuries on her body, they will heal but the emotional scars, she knows they may never go away.
jillian, what have these last few days been like for you? >> they've been surreal. feels like i'm not -- it's not real basically. it feels like a dream, i'm in denial. it's been terrible. >> denial. denial about what? >> like that that really happened here where i'm from and that so many lives have been lost. it's crazy. >> it's hard. you were hurt on your arm and your knees. can i see? >> yeah. my hand -- there was glass shards. they're still in there. my arm, both my knees. >> how long will it take for the glass to come out? >> they said it's going to reject by itself. >> so you were in the club. were you there with hands? >> yes, i was there with friends. >> how are they doing? >> they all made it out. everyone is good. >> that's wonderful news given
what happened. you were there with friends. and you didn't get shot, it's glass. what happened? >> i was in the main bar dancing and drinking with my friends, and then all of a sudden we hear these shots that sound like fireworks. we thought it was fake so the music hadn't stopped. so we kind of look around around everyone is still dancing and the music is still playing, so we're like, okay, and then all of a sudden it just keeps going back to back to back and i just see people dropping. i'm not sure if anybody had been shot or they're dropping because they were scared. so my initial reaction was to drop to the floor to dodge any type of bullets that were coming through. so that's how i'm assuming i got the glass on my arm and then all i was thinking while i was on the floor was if i get up, i can die. i'll get shot in the back or if i stay down, i might also get shot. so i think there was a break. there was a lot of come motimot
people screaming, people crying. there was a break and i started to run. everybody was running. i remember there was a girl laying next to me with a green shirt, and i just -- it was like a flight or fight and i just ran until i couldn't run anymore. friends have told me that i went out the side bar area door, but to be honest with you, i don't even know where i exited or what i passed or anything like that. >> so you got out pretty much right away after it started? >> yeah. i was probably on the floor like ten seconds. it seemed like forever, and then, yeah, i got out. >> and you called your cousin immediately. >> yeah. i called my fiance actually and i was running, and i'm like i think -- i don't know what happened. there's gunshots and i'm running and they can hear the gunshots in the background and then they're like stop and see if you have been shot. i couldn't. the adrenaline was pumping and
my arm was gushing blood. i didn't know what had happened. it was very surreal. >> what do you want people to know about you today after all this? >> i want people to know about me -- really what i want mem to know is we're not going to be divided by this. orlando is going to be strong. there are plenty of lives that have been lost but they're not in vain. i'm going to live a life worth living. god spared me for a reason and i'm going to show the lives that have been lost, i'm going to put honor to their name. >> if you had a message to the other people right now trying to heal, trying to get better, what would that be? >> seek help. i know that for me it's been hard to sleep or anything like that, and counseling or therapy, the outpour from everybody that doesn't even live here, i have been getting messages from different countries, different states telling me it's going to
be okay. to seek help, don't try to get through this by yourself. >> have you been able to sleep so far? >> no, vint bei haven't been ab sleep. >> not at all. >> it's been very hard. >> listen, i think you need to know that so many people around the world, you know, are thinking about you and just impressed by your strength. i think they know that you're not going to let anything like this stop you. >> no, i'm not. >> thanks, jillian. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i'm joined by sanjay. i want to thank jillian, first of all, for sitting down and talking to us. jillian, she was really strong in that interview. but she had been staying with her mother ever since. she hasn't been back to orlando. she's staying with her mother half an hour away. she hasn't been able to sleep. like the other survivors she tells us she feels guilt, this survivor guilt. >> it can be very immediate. it can be very powerful, and it can be very surprising. you know, we've interviewed a
few people about this and experts, that's one of the things they always describe it as. people don't really understand what is it exactly this emotion i'm feeling. part of it is for very obvious reasons. she had to scramble to get out of there. did she scramble and make it out when others did not? did she even worry maybe she impeded somebody else's ability to get out or people may have been getting trampled on the ground, things like that, but also she's coming to grips with her mortality and this is a young woman. none of us have ever seen anything like this, but she's seen things that are unimaginable and now she's confronting her own mortality in a way. it's all of this happening at the same time. it's not quite post-traumatic stress because it's too early for that but it's acute stress syndrome and it's certainly i think why she's probably not sleeping and having all the feelings she described to you. >> white house has made clear one of the things the president wants to do is reach out to these folks andian knows she needs help and she's going to reach out to get it.
she's so grateful for the outpouring of support. sanjay, thank you so much. >> thank you. politics now, donald trump is threatening to go it alone slamming the republican party for not lying up behind and telling party leaders he doesn't need them. will house speaker paul ryan respond to this? he's set to speak any minute. i guarantee he will be asked. al grain free pet food committed to truth on the label. when we say real meat is the first ingredient, it is number one. and we leave out corn, wheat and soy. for your pet, we go beyond.
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trump. donald trump over the last 24 hours has basically told republicans to get on board or donald trump is willing to go it alone. it will be interesting to hear what paul ryan has to say about that. we'll take you to it the minute he face that is question. in the meantime, i want to bring in cnn commentator mary katharine ham and boris epstein and the mayor of miami beach phillip levine. mary cakatharine, bear me if i t you off, but donald trump essentially now saying my way or the highway. do you get the sense that more and more republicans are going to choose the highway? >> well, the idea that the message was ever not my way or the highway i think is naive. like donald trump is donald trump is donald trump. he will be donald trump every day, and his message -- >> all right. let's take paul ryan's questions here. >> first of all, i think --
first of all, let's make sure we keep the victims in our prayers and their families. i want to make sure that we understand the gravity of this moment and the sensitivity. we want to make sure something like this doesn't happen again. everybody wants that, but as we look at how to proceed, we also want to make sure that we're not infringing upon people's legitimate constitutional rights. that's important. we also want to make sure that someone who is not supposed to get a gun, doesn't get a gun. so we've got to figure out how that works. take a look at what happens right now with the fbi. if a person is on a terror watch list, the law enforcement is supposed to be notified whether they're trying to buy a gun. the fbi director just told us the other day, if we do this wrong, like the president is proposing, we could actually blow our ongoing terrorist investigations, so we want to get this right so that we don't undermine terrorist investigations, and i would simply say there are other
factors that need to be dealt with. we just passed this week 53-0 tim murphy's mental health bill out of the commerce committee. let's make sure we are not infringing upon a law-abiding citizen's second amendment rights. >> so are you looking at legislati legislation? >> would curtailing the second amendment protect this country from islamic -- radical -- >> that's a good question. so the question is, is going after the second amendment how you stop terrorism? no. that's not how you stop terrorism. we have a bill that's being voted on right now to go after homegrown jihadists. this is a person who was radicalized by islamic terrorists. he claimed it was by isis. so we need to make sure we're focusing on the real issue here, which is terrorism. the fact that people are becoming radicalized and committing these horrible acts of terrorism in our country. so not only do we need a better
foreign policy, not only do we need a better policy with respect to iraq and syria and fighting terrorists and preventing isis from expanding and growing, we need to have a better job and a better handle on homegrown jihad and on combatting the ideology itself. again, a week ago today we rolled out a 67-point plan for a better national security to address these issues. >> the bill that you described countering terrorist radicalization act, now, that authorizes dhs' countering violent extremism training. that particular training has been criticized -- >> yes. >> -- for essentially training these federal agents -- >> i agree. >> to whitewash and put in like political correct training telling these agents that they can't investigate particularly suspects who may have muslim backgrounds saying that they can't look into people who may have certain things that may be islamic. is the gop essentially
condoning -- >> no, i have concerns about this aspect of dhs, and one of the reasons why we delayed the markup of the homeland security bill in the appropriations committee is because we wanted to look at all of these issues to see if something needed to be improved in the appropriations process of homeland security, and that's one of our concerns. >> in the after math of orlando, your party's presumptive nominee has renewed his calls for the muslim ban which you have repeatedly rejected. if he continues to say controversial things that draw concerns, draw your concerns, do you envision any scenario in which you would rescind your endorsement? >> that's not my plan. i don't have a plan to do that. look, we're going to agree to disagree on some things. that's just the way things work. mitt romney and i didn't agree on everything. what we do agree on is we don't want another democrat in the white house, i can tell you that, and we do have a lot of common ground on a lot of things that we think will move us in a better way in this country. we don't agree on that. everybody knows that. and you also know that if i'm
asked a question, i'm going to answer it honestly and if i'm asked a question about a proposal that i don't agree with, i'm going to say i don't agree with it. it's just that simple. >> thank you, mr. speaker. to that end though, i mean, when you wake up in the morning and you read the paper, there he goes again. you call up brenden and ashley and say i have to say this? how many more times do you have to do this? >> i don't know the answer to that. he's a different kind of candidate. this is a different kind of year. i'm going to be myself and speak up in defense of our principles, in defense of not just our party's principles but our country's principles. we want to conserve our founding principles, liberty, freedom, self determination. those are important principles. no matter what, we're going to ge fend the principles. i do believe the last thing we want is a democrat in the white house like hillary clinton. >> do you have a response to his comments -- >> i'm sorry, you jumped ahead of him. >> mr. speaker, one of the nuances though of the orlando
shooting is -- i guess the question is should someone who is on the terror watch list be taken off it or being investigated by the fbi, should that show up in a background check or should it be totally eliminated? >> i think that's a fair question. we need to dig into the bottom of this particular case and to see if refinements on how they adjudicate these cases work with respect to terror watch lists, with respect to -- we need to know more about what is it the fbi learned when they visited with him? why did they take him off the list? there is a lot that congress has to do to get to the bottom of this particular case to make sure that if any mistakes were made that they're not to be repeated. that's point number one. point number two, we don't take away citizens' rights without due process. i am going to defend the constitution here. we do not take away a citizen's rights without their due process. and so if you have a quick idea in the heat of the moment that says let's take away a person's rights without their due process, we're going to stand up and defend the constitution.
>> mr. speaker, do you have any thoughts on john cornyn's shield act and have you had any discussions with mitch mcconnell? >> i'm familiar with it, i haven't talked with mitch about it in particular. i have talked with our members about it. i think there's a version of it floating around here in the house. this essentially codifies what the fbi already does. we think they should do what they do, and so i think we'll have further conversations about how to codify what the fbi does. >> last question. >> mr. speaker, regarding the constitution -- >> did you already ask one? >> no, i didn't. >> okay. all right. just making sure. >> regarding the constitution, the republican nominee has p invoked the credentials of "the washington post." the national review, the conservative publication, mother jones. what do you feel about the republican nominee revoking credentials of really respected media? >> i don't think i've ever heard of it. i think that's a new one. i don't know a whole lot about it. i home and assume -- who is with
"the post"? king is here. okay. last question. >> will you -- >> you're trying to come up with one now, aren't you? the bonus. where is the bonus? >> this morning, mr. speaker, you rolled out your plan to rein in executive power. mr. trump yesterday said this addressing congressional leaders like yourself. be i wouquiet, just please be q. don't talk. what is your reaction to this and how do you have any confidence this is a guy who is going to have respect for separation of powers. >> you can't make this up sometimes. i'll just say we represent a separate but equal branch of government. we just spent the morning talking about how valuable the separation of powers is and how we're trying to restore the entire principle of self government, of government by
consent. we will lose our freedoms in this country, including all of the bill of rights, if we don't robustly defend the separation of powers and we will fight for those rights on behalf of our citizens so that we remain a self-governing people. let me leave it at that and say make sure you call your dads this weekend. thanks. >> house speaker paul ryan facing questions on a number of issues, on the investigation right now here in orlando, on calls for new gun control measures, and, yes, also on donald trump. on gun control by the way he said he wants to let the investigation run its course but he's open to hearing a discussion about possible laws that might address the issue of people on terror watch lists being able to buy guns but he says he will stand up for the constitution. i want to bring back the panel to talk about what we just heard. mary katharine ham, before we went to paul ryan i was asking you a question about donald
trump saying my way or the highway. he was asked a question by manu ra raju, could he see a circumstance where he would take back his endorsement of trump and he essentially said no. >> i think these two will continue to disagree and continue to disagree publicly and he made note of that. the idea this was ever going to look like a normal unification process i think was just -- this is not how this was going to go down. he's not a normal candidate. he doesn't want to play by any of the normal rules. that's part of his appeal. he also wants the advantages of doing those things without doing it. he wants the funders, he wants everybody behind him but he doesn't want to repair those things and be trustworthy and not lash out at people. he just keeps doing those things. i think you're not going to see a normal unification process because he's not a normal candidate. he's not going to become one. >> it's interesting, and paul ryan clearly isn't going to pretend that everything is okay. >> exactly. >> we know he's not going to rescind his endorsement but -- >> he's like it's 2016! >> different kind of candidate,
different kind of year. i'm going to answer questions honestly. which was a warning shot i think to the trump campaign. boris, you heard paul ryan say what he said right there but he's still endorsing donald trump. there are folks who are not. larry hogan, the governor of larry hogan, governor of maryland. governor is very close to chris christie. he says he's not going to vote for donald trump. you have lindsey graham, more and more folks, charlie baker of massachusetts say they will not vote for donald trump. republican office holders. this isn't normal for us. we do not see this every four years. how does donald trump plan to address this? >> you're right. it's not normal. normal is not the goal. the goal is for donald trump to come in and change the way washington works. a lot of old line republican disagree with this. everybody has their right to vote and make their decision the best way they can. over 13 million voters in the
gop primary voted for donald trump. more than 3 million more than voted for romney, more than ever in a gop primary for the nominee. these people should listen to the voters and not their own political interest. what paul ryan said i disagree with the candidate but i still support him. that's his right. he should be doing that. you never agree with everything your candidate says. he disagreed with mitt romney and he was his vice presidential pick. there's two, four, republican office holders want to go away from donald trump that's their choice but doing it at their period ridiculous and against the voters. that's a huge mistake. >> the support you're getting from paul ryan. i do want to get to one question. because we did learn something new from the clinton campaign. clinton campaign is not vetting bernie sanders as a possible vice presidential candidate. bernie sanders will not be we're told the vice presidential pick
of hillary clinton. that's not surprising. i don't think anyone is shocked by that. i'm a little surprised that it came out this early, this clearly, and this frankly, it seems as if the clinton campaign was egger to separate itself from bernie sanders on this front. >> well let me just say this. senator sanders and i said before, did an unbelievable job of bringing more people to the campaign. we expect him to be very active at the democratic convention in july. the fact secretary clinton said that, a lot of people want to be her vice president. just getting back to what boris said. let's look what is going on. this is the good ship "titanic" trump going down. one good thing about donald trump he still has secured king jong-un's endorsement. the democrats are unified. the republicans are good ship
"titanic". >> when everyone talks to once no one wins. mary catherine you have the last word. >> democrats are indeed united at this point. have to do some work to bring the bernie sanders folks behind her. >> i completely disagree. the republicans are much more united. >> break the rules. boris, thank you so much. thank you all. i want to get to some breaking news right now. i want to get our investigative correspondent that the orlando manager of a gun store nearby says his staff was suspicious of the shooter's behavior when he came to buy body armor several weeks ago and that they told law enforcement about it at the time. i had not reported that earlier. i want to make it clear they say they reported it to law enforcement. drew griffith is with us right now. what can you tell us? >> reporter: this falls into the
possibility yet another warning sign that was missed. we know from my colleague brian todd that omar mateen went to this store which is is a miles from where i am about four or five weeks ago and asked toby soft body armor level 3a. he said he worked in security so they didn't think that was suspicious. then he asked for heavy or hardened armor the kind the military wears and then according to a manager i talked to this morning, john, he started to talk on the phone in a foreign language that they didn't recognize. they didn't recognize it as the usual spanish that you have down here in florida or a germanic or french language. they thought it was arabic. then the man simply left. they thought it was suspicious they claim that they contacted law enforcement. the manager would not identify which law enforcement agency was contacted, and would also not say if they turned over any video surveillance of that person, but he does say omar mateen came to their store four,
five weeks ago, asked for body armor. the store doesn't sell any body armor but the store actually contacted law enforcement in advance. john? >> if that's true we need to get a response from law enforcement to find out what they say about that point of cop tact. one other thing interesting if he made a phone call from inside that store the cell phone data that they are gag it and location data and cell phone records provided by the companies will be able to establish who he called from that store. that could be an interesting thread. any response from law enforcement yet on the claim this was reported? >> reporter: nothing official. i know that some of our colleagues who were in touch with the federal investigation is trying to nail this down and find out if it's true. but also trying to find out exactly who did this, who did they call? did they call local? local atf? we don't know at this point. >> that's something we do need to find out. be very interesting to hear the response there. drew griffith, excellent
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