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yes, it is breaking news. this is unprecedented what is happening on the house floor. you're looking at live pictures now. this is from periscope. the republicans have turned the cameras off. the majority have tushd the cameras off. the democrats are holding an extraordinary sit in demanding action on guns. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. here is what civil rights icon and congressman john lewis told our wolf blitzer earlier today. >> we cannot wait. we cannot afford to take a break and go home. >> we're discussing the blistering speeches by donald trump and hillary clinton. the gloves are really off now. now i want to get to capitol
hill. there is extraordinary developments unfolding on the house floor by democrats who are doing this sit in. i'm going to bring in michelle kaczynski in a moment for new information we just gotten. it says around midnight they're going to come back for a procedural vote to end the legislative business for the day. usually a voice vote. but expected it will be a role call, a role call vote after that, they will adjourn for the night. typically the lights are turned off when the house add adjourns, cameras will turn off as well. it is unclear still if democrats will stay on the floor. though it seems they likely will. as we've been discussing around the table with my political panel here, mark preston is here. dana bash is here. and then we also have michael caputo formerly of the trump campaign. this seems pretty tame. that seems -- what happened with you seems pretty tame. so we'll get into all of. that but the interesting thing
is, at midnight if they turn the lights off, to turn the lights off on an icon like jon stewart would really cause havoc, don't you i >> our sense is that's probably not going to happen. they were preparing with sleeping bags and other things you need to pull an all nighter. so they're definitely planning on going all night. >> yeah. >> i want to get to michelle kaczynski. this is an amazing scene. i'm not sure if you saw that argument. this is the 12th hour of the sit n the president has been supporting this effort. what can you tell us about that, michelle? >> he has. as of right now, as we're all watching this and near disbelief as this reaches the fever pitch that has, the white house is staying out of it at this
moment. we know from our sources that they're watching this closely. they've been glued it to as we have. but they want to stay out of the fray at this moment. we heard from them earlier today though. most recently there was a tweet about it president himself. he retweeted a tweet from john lewis saying thank you, john lewis, for leading on gun violence where we need it most. and the tweet that he tweeted said sometimes you have to get in the way and make some noise by speaking out against injustice and inaction. here's what the white house said earlier. this is just when the sit in started. listen. >> what democrats are asking for is neither radical nor controversial. they're asking for votes and bipartisan support for policies that are supported by a majority of democrats, majority of
republicans and majority of gun owners all across the country. these are common sense proposals that do not undermine the second amendment rights of law abiding americans. but they're common sense proposals that would succeed in at least making it harder for individuals who shouldn't have guns, from being able to get their hands on them. >> the white house saying on this sit in in particular that these democrats are venting much of the anger and frustration that the white house said many people around the country are feeling right now. so the white house didn't exactly endorse the action itself or call for a sit in or say, yes, a sit in is the way to go. heybut t endorsed it ideologically. by saying, you know, the reasoning behind it is -- of course, we heard the white house speak out on this forcefully and very forcefully over the last couple of days, calling the inaction in the senate those failed votes, the white house blaming senate republicans, calling it a shameful display of
coward he is and the textbook definition of cowardess. so we're sure to hear more from the white house on this tomorrow. the president is traveling tomorrow so he very well may make a statement when he lands and we'll be hearing from the white house en route. >> stand bichlt i havey. i have a question. is it interesting that white house is sort of sitting back? this is a couple months left. this is something he would usually take a stand on. >> right. speaking for myself here, i do think that this is a moment. this whole presidential campaign has been about moments. i know this isn't about the presidential campaign. but in many ways, it s the presidential candidates are talking about gun violence. we had the worst massacre ever in the history of the united states. barack obama is a lame duck. i don't understand why the white house wouldn't put out a paper statement saying we stand with our house democrats that a vote should happen. this is a noement now that is being watched around the world right now. people are tuning in. i guarantee you this will be the
biggest story tomorrow. i don't understand why they wouldn't weigh in on it. >> we heard representatives moments ago saying he was, you know, he had to buy a sleeping bag. i said go for the air mattress, the one with the built in pump that blows it up. but you have reporting that they're handing out pillows and blankets and information from john lewis. >> there is coming from our friend that is standing out in the speaker's lobby which is right next to the doors there which is sort of the culture of the house is that's where reporters stay and that's where house members come out and mill around. john lewis just came out there and said that he will confer with colleagues if they actually sleep tonight inside the chamber but said they're not leaving any time soon. tonight's sit in reminded him of being a young civil rights activist. this say quote from john lewis. we're going to continue to sit in and sit down. by sitting in and sitting down, we're standing up. >> this is old school, you know,
protests meets new school with new things. we're looking at this on periscope. speaking of new technology, congressman steve is czys us with. so kindly we asked limb to facetime us and he obliged. and now he is on the house floor. >> whoa. >> there are no rules. i'm told that you'll not get in trouble for this at this moment. but that's my colleagues here say that. so tell us what is going on. what are you seeing? >> well, i may very well get in trouble. but there are some things worth getting in trouble for. right now my colleagues are taking to the microphone. we're in recess. the public cameras are off. the microphones are off. and you can see behind me what is happening on the floor of the house. my colleagues are stepping up to the microphone and asking for a vote on no fly no buy before we go on vacation on friday. we're going to keep doing this all night long. >> i'm not sure if you heard what dana bash just reported just moments ago saying they're
handing out blankets and pillows. you better go get yours. you said you were doing a sleeping bag. but also saying that, you know, tonight he's going to sleep inside of the chamber. he and his colleagues. but they're not leaving any time soon according to john lewis. >> well, john lewis is absolutely right. there will be at least 20, 30 members that will stay the night. i believe there's going to be another vote at some point this evening. after that, the republican leadership is expected to leave. we'll stay here. and we'll stay until tomorrow morning and then resume tomorrow. keep this going for as long as we can and as long as we must. >> representative, you're able to see that confrontation that happened moments ago as you were, you know, left the room and walking -- >> as can you hear, there is some loud voices behind me. >> can you hear me now? >> now i k. yes. >> were you able to see the confrontation that happened moments ago as you were making your way to the snous. >> i did. i did. that was congressman louie gilmi lechlt who is outspoken, very
conservative republican from texas. congressman gilmer -- >> yes, you bet. well, you can see that i've been admonished. and now i'm in the cloak room. but what you saw before was congressman louie gilmer. he is very outspoken when he talks about -- tilt up a little bit. >> say again? >> there you go. perfect. >> there we go. >> so real quickly, before you get to that, who admonished you? who was that? >> i'm sorry. say again? >> who admonished you? who was it? >> well, staff member from the sergeant of arm was doing his job. and actually he was quite kind rather than telling me to shut this off, he asked me if i would just turn it in a different direction and step into the democratic cloak room rather than doing this on the floor of the house. he was being kind. >> okay. but you're in the cloak room. can you just turn around as long as you're inside the cloak room? >> yeah, i can. >> there you go. >> you were admonished the first
time. we can try it one more time. you don't have to go there. just leave the door open. >> congressman, it's a good thing that you're retiring. >> okay. so then what happened with them. what happened with the confrontation? >> the confrontation that you saw before was congressman lewis gilmer from texas. he is very outspoken and talks about the so-called islamic radicals and i understand, you know, he says that. i think there is an irony, however, that he came to the floor to start screaming about, you know, his islamic radicals. he wants those people to be tibl have guns f they're on the no fly list, i think this is a little bit of inconsistency in his argument. >> david? do you have a question. >> congressman, i do want to -- that was sort of the first enga engagement we saw when republicans weren't letting paul ryan call what you have a stunt today and just doing it buchlt
they actually came on the floor to engage the democrats. is your sense, you are talking to folks across the aisle at all? is your sense that they're going to start doing more of that? >> if can you hear us, come back. that was great television. he said he was being admonished. and it was by -- >> somebody at sergeant of arms. they're the people who are in charge of making sure the rules are followed. >> and they're not going a very good job. >> he was saying earlier, just the fact that we're looking atd right now is happening. periscope. the fact that they're not stopping whom ever it is who is holding the phone or the ipad or whatever it is and effectively streaming this, is streaming the house floor because the camera are off. >> i want to bring in michael now. he is a former campaign
director. is that correct? >> adviser. >> for the donald trump campaign and we know what happened this week with corey lou endo yewand fired and then you found yourself being escorted out. not out of trump tower but out of the campaign. as you're watching this, what do you think is happening inside the campaign? are they happy to see democrats or is this disarray on the democrats party or congress's part? >> more importantly, i was assistant director of the house radio and television and house gallery before we ever had any cell phones. you were never allowed to do anything like this. this is absolute anarchy on the house floor. and how paul ryan are legislate the republicans let this happen, i'll never know. he is absolutely correct. there say political stunt. this is a stunt that is designed to change the narrative.
because what happened in orlando was terrorism. what happened was a terrorist got ahold of a gun and going to get ahold of guns regardless of the gun laws. they need to change that topic for very political reasons. for hillary clinton. >> you think this is about hillary clinton? >> i think it's about hillary clinton and every person running for re-election on that floor. they're all looking for political points and breaking the rules and trat decisions of the house to do that. >> they're looking for political points from their own constituents or -- >> absolutely. and also they're tying trying to make political points against republicans. they want the republicans to vote it down. >> the argument they're making is that, you know, it was terrorism. it was a terrorist that had a gun. so why not have a vote an you measure they think will keep terrorists from having guns?
i think they're a little more could be servetive on the gun issue than donald trump f donald trump was a speaker of the house, he would let a vote go down zbrchlt if donald trump were president of the united states, he would, as i was being critical of the current white house not being supportivest democrats, he would be -- what would he do? not just as an adviser in this presidential campaign. but you go way back with donald. >> i think he would be for decorum. in my mind, i think -- >> in allowing a vote? >> he wouldn't -- this would not happen if he were speaker of the house. he would discourage this from happening if he were president, i think. this is against all the rules of the house. they lost control of the place. if they start bringing in sleeping bags and pillows, look, i know one thing, tonight must have been two for one red wine night in the white house dining room. >> i lot of face you made. >> i'm trying to rewind her. if it's any good or not good? >> it's not good at all.
>> whether you talk about donald trump right now who having trouble with the republican party certainly with the establishment, okay, would it be smart of him do you think, to put out a tweet or statement of support for you house republicans in this situation right now? >> far be it for me to advise anyone on twitter. that's not exactly my specialty. >> you see where that got you. >> but having zinld my twitter feed after donald trump, i can tell you that we might see something like this. i think he's very outspoken. this is something that captured the attention of america. they're going to have to get ahold of themselves down there. >> i'm sorry. >> you said it's really inappropriate. i'll let you get in with plenty of time. we're going to be covering this. but what about the optics of it? who do -- is there a winner on the optics of this? >> i think that the majority of the american people are receptive to the idea of not allowing people on the terrorist watch list or a no fly list to
buy guns. there's a lot of open discussion of. that i think donald trump is in favor of that kind of discussion. i think the winners here are probably the democrats. the losers here are the republicans. and by the way, the republicans who are supposed to be keeping control of the house of representatives. jim wright is taking over the house because of an abortion vote, the nation would, first of all, we wouldn't have seen it. the cameras, we didn't have hand held cameras then. but in addition to that, we would be talking about it very differently right now. >> this is -- sometimes you just, as they say, are lucky to have guests. so lucky to you have here as a -- >> house of representatives radio and television gallery that runs all the broadcast radio and television. >> he was the guy -- he was the person telling us how to follow the rules. >> yeah. >> and it means, i mean, in the
house, you know, even seemingly minor things but important things like when you're in the hallway outside the house, you can't shoot your camera in towards the house floor. >> when the house made that, you know, when the speaker made that order, we would be helping them make sure the cameras were off. not just off but pointed down in case you left them on. >> okay. more questions for him on the other side of the break. i have to get to a break. hopefully we can get congressman steve israel back. but anyway, are you watching an unprecedented happening on capitol hill right now. the house, there is a sit in and the house of representatives being staged by the democrats and confrontation between democrats and republicans. we'll be right back after this break.
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but as we watch the pigts and listen here, my panel is here, dana bash here is, ryan david is here and i'm lucky to have them. we're joined by dan kildy, one of the democrats involved in the sit in. so representative, you have been protesting for more than 11 hours now. is this chaos on the floor? >> well, it's certainly a lot of energy on the floor. you know, it comes from the fact that we are absolutely exhausted by one minute of silence to commemorate these people in a whole success session of horrific events. and that one minute is followed by hours and days and weeks and months of absolutely nothing.
>> we decided early this morning, led by john lewis, somebody who knows a little bit blt effectiveness of civil disobedience, we decided we were going to make a very strong statement and try to get the attentionst american people. they will continue to gavel us down. we'll not win on the floor. but we will win if the american people watch this and come to understand exactly what the house leadership is preventing. a simple vote on two simple bills that have a majority of support by the american people. >> i have to ask you. we had a foreman trump representative, a republican on saying he was shocked that you guys were doing this. he said this was anarchy and chaos. he surprised the house speaker is even allowing this to happen. how do you respond to that?
>> anyone who calls it anarchy doesn't know what anarchy is. we're members of the house of representatives who are trying to exercise our rights of speech and we're using every tool that we have. we're doing it for this man. for tevon crosby, a man from michigan. >> hold it up higher, please. >> he was killed in orlando. you know, and so when i hear the speaker or others say that this is a publicity stunt, give me a break. tell the families of the people who lost their lives that their case is getting too much publicity. you know, this is not anarchy. this is not a publicity stunt. this us is trying to do what the american people think we do anyway. and that is vote on the questions that they raise with us when we go home. when we go home, people ask, why aren't you voting to take people who are on the terror watch list
away from the -- take away the right for them to just walk in and purchase any weapon? why aren't you voting to have universal background checks? something that most americans think we already have. it is bought and paid for and petrified by the national rifle associati association. it's the fact they're absolutely petrified of one organization who promised to come after them if they cross them. >> first, i would tell you, wolf, this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. that is point number one. number two, this bill was already defeated in the united
states senate. that was already defeated in the senate. you said it is a publicity stunt and there is nothing that can come of this. the last i saw, he was a speaker of the house of representatives not of the senate. i heard him say many time does he not subject the house to the prerogatives of the senate. if they have specific questions as to how he may have due process rights to get off the terror watch list, that's the subject of legislating. but speaker ryan does not want to legislate. because he and the leadership want to protect their members from an attack from an
organization that will spend millions to defeat anyone who crosses them. that's what this is all about. and nobody on the floor has any doubt about that. the legislation that we're talking about is authored by a republican member of the house. peter king. the other piece of legislation which doesn't come up as much simply says that if you buy a weapon through the internet or at a gun show, you have to go through the same background check as if you buy it at a registered gun shop. i mean that is pretty simple and sfrat forwa straight forward. >> is peter king there tonight? >> i haven't seen peter on the floor. i assume he is here. >> representative kildee, we appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.
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this takes away from donald trump's scathing speech about hillary clinton. angela rice is here. former executive direct yooror the congressional black caucus. christine quinn is here as well. former speaker of the new york city council and hillary clinton supporter. bob cusack is here and mark preston, gloria borger and dana bash. i think that is the biggest panel. we have new reporting here. it says in a change the house will not adjourn and instead house republicans are now telling members they're planning more votes later into the evening. so fasten your seat belts. we'll be here for a while. they're expected to do a procedural vote tonight to allow the house to then quickly vote to vote quickly on a new $1.1
billion zika funding bill that has been just been introduced. and democrats have already said that they oppose the bill. republicans have enough votes to pass that bill. so there we go. we look at the live pictures on periscope. we've been watching this drama play out with john lewis and the democrats wushing for the stricter gun control. it's anyone's guess how long this sit in is going to last. what do you think of the tactics? >> i want to first recognize congresswoman robin kelly for her work on this. why? because there is not her first rodeo at this. congresswoman kelly came in as an anti-gun violence candidate from chicago and has been behind the scenes planning this. this is a member that talked about not standing for moments of silence anymore? why? right after they stand for a moment of silence, they stlit and don't do anything. she produced the kelly report
and ensured that members and the greater country understood the importance of gun violence and the toll it takes on lives. there is very important. you had a commentator on earlier that called this anarchy wlachlt is interesting is after so many lives were lost in orlando, don, and time after time when they were talking about sanldy hook -- >> stand by. congresswoman robin kelly is here. >> amazing. >> she is face timing with us. how are you? and we just lost her. >> well then i'll carry on, don. >> she really was there. trust me. >> i believe it. >> now she's back. >> perfect. >> congresswoman, through? >> yes, i am. >> okay. so congress wom, you know, we had a republican representative on, a republican member of the republican party and a former trump representative on earlier saying this is anarchy and he can not believe that you democrats are breaking the rules of the house. >> well, they pretty much left us no choice.
i mean, we have two bills led by -- sponsored by republican peter king and they still won't call the bills to the floor. they're bipartisan bills that have bipartisan support and they still wasn't call the bills to the floor as people are dying. >> so -- >> don? >> you plan to keep up the tactics until when, congresswoman? >> as long as it takes. we're dedicated to the cause. until we can vote on a bill. they bring the bill to the floor. manufacture us have our pillows and blankets ready to spend the night tonight. and we don't think that we should go on break as i -- as i said earlier, you know, many people can't go home to their families for the holiday because they're not alive anymore. and we have something to do with that with not passing, not one
bill. there's not one gun violence prevention bill that has been brought to the floor. i came here in 2013. and that's ridiculous. >> so, andy dean, paul ryan called this a publicity stunt by democrats. what do you make of that? >> i disagree with paul ryan, actually. don, you know how conservative i am. one of the most conservative people you have on cnn. i'm proud of what the democrats are doing tonight. it's simple. if you're on the no fly list, you shouldn't be able to get a gun. this isn't kblechl f we're talking real numbers here this is important for the american public to understand, there are 81,000 people, 81,000 people on the no fly list. 80,000 of them cannot buy a gun because they're not u.s. citizens. there are 1,000 americans that this applies to. if they're walking into a gun shop, the fbi or some member of the justice department should have a visit with them and after a week investigation, if this
person is fine, then they can get the gun. we need to delay them from purchasing guns. one final thing i'll say, i think the sit in is a good idea because if you're no fly, you should nobody gun. but tomorrow night the republicans need to have a sit in about radical islam and the dangers of that because they'll kill us with pressure cookers, guns, planes. >> i wondered what happened to andy dean. he was back for the second part of that statement. and that is what senator susan collins is proposinproposing. i find it interesting. this slt second trump person we've had on who has sort after plauded what the democrats are doing. donald trump believes as andy was just enunciating the position in this position of the no fly, no buy. which now raises the question so is donald trump going to pick up the phone and talk to house
speaker ryan and say is there -- you know, obviously we know that relationship is froth. but we have sneen previous election cycles that a presidential con tender is not in congress may speak to their party and control and try to help shape the aagenda yachlt it would be very interesting to see if donald trump wants to help shape the agenda here. or does donald trump actually go to the nra which he supposed to meet with on this and say, look, there has to be some kind of middle ground. trump has already said, well, i think the no fly lists are too large, right? and maybe there is a way to narrow that down as dana was talking about earlier. there is some proposals to do. that but here we have two trump supporters applauding essentially what is going on in the house. i think mike caputo called it anarchy because he believes in decorum whichcy lot of us do. >> i'm applauding it. >> okay. >> and you are.
>> i don't really care about decorum. i care about the country. >> but -- force. >> we know, andy, trust us. >> i know you can't speak for mr. trump, but, you know, the question is would you advise donald trump then to go out and say, you know, i applaud what the democrats did on the house floor last night? >> well, look, of course you ask me that. go ahead. >> no. i want you to finish, andy. >> gloria, my answer so that would be, look, donald trump is a smart man and he's a negotiator. and i truly believe that he thinks if you're no fly you should be no buy. but it's a negotiation. so let's get something on radical islam as in you know we'll give you this piece and let's go with that and then tomorrow let's have a meeting about the syrian refugees that hillary clinton wants to bring into the country. would i advice him to go along here? yes. i would advice him absolutely to make sure that this happens.
this is no fly, no buy. and then i'd like to see more action against radical islamists. but i think no fly, no buy stands alone in and of itself. >> i'm wondering, i can hear the chorus saying the no trumpers never saying i told you, you know, he was a democrat person. he's going along with the democrats. you're saying that they're using a tragedy for political gain. go on. >> let's be clear. the law that the democrats are advocating for tonight would not have stopped the shooting in orlando. that's why this is one of the most embarrassing self serving things i've ever seen in american political history. if you're on a no fly list and not able to buy a gun. >> so why not vote on it then? >> here's the problem. the democrats who are saying they want to compromise will not
compromise on any of this. and the fact is, you are deserved as a part of the constitution. due process. you are not supposed to have your rights taken away from you. what the democrats are saying is they're willing to take away americans' rights. you don't know how you get on this list or off the list. it's true. no even democrats can't even tell you how you get off this list if you're on the list. more -- >> councilwoman quinn -- >> there is an important point. there is one last thing. if i'm on the list, should i be notified that i'm on the list instead of randomly finding out one day when i go to buy a gun that my rights have been stripped from me? those are fixes the democrats have refused to compromise on. >> part of the proposals is there some way of getting off it and be reimbursed for legal
fees. there is process and due process in this legislation, correct? >> absolutely. mr. ferguson presents it if he would support another bill that was, in his words, more directly connected to orlando. that simply not true. the republican party controlling congress right now, they're not interested in voting in any kind of gun legislation. let's be clear, there isn't a political stunt. 49 -- >> no it is not. it is a political protest. wait a minute. no one interrupted you. so let's be clear here. i didn't interrupt you. so let's be clear. >> everybody chill. >> no. i don't want to chill. >> there is nothing to chill b. >> let her speak, please, everyone. >> 49 people are dead. >> that's right. >> 49 of my lgbt brothers and sisters are dead. and something needs to be done about that.
and tonight -- >> then why are you trying to pass a law? >> and the john lewis fashion is a political protest. >> then why are you trying to pass a law that would not have affected shooting in orlando? >> because -- >> you're being -- >> you're being racist. >> i'm not being use bid anyone. >> this law would not have stopped the shooting in orlando. >> would visit stopped other mass shootings? >> would you have supported -- >> we are trying to raise several issues surrounding gun prevention. i spent the whole first 30 seconds of my initial comments talking about congresswoman kelly's record on this issue. the fact of the matter is whether you're talking about someone who you believe got into this country illegally or not or the scapegoating of syrian refugees or whatever, we have a serious issue with gun violence in this country. most recently with 49 people dying. this is not a political stunt. it is absolutely a political
protest. >> okay, ben. >> how dare you, how dare you trivialize the lives of these people. >> i'm not trivializing them. i don't want to pass a law that is meaning tols a shooting in orlando. >> i'm not finished. you're disrespectful to the people who died. >> you're anarchists on the floor right now. >> i'm talking. you're talking while i'm talking. >> you're doing it on the floor of the house and -- >> stop, guys. there is what -- okay. so, look, there is sort of what is happening with democrats and republicans on the house floor. it's playing out here on cnn. so i'm going to bring in someone who can give us analysis on this. this is bob cusack. again to my point, bob, the yelling and the people not listening to each other that, is sort wlaf is happening now. one side shutting the other side down. >> right. and the one thing to think about is that there is a bipartisan bill in the senate that is moving that has the support of senator collins as well as lindsey graham and harry reid.
and this protest on the house floor could help that compromise move in the senate. i do think going back to donald trump, donald trump has been talking to the nra. the nra opposes the collins bill. however, i don't think donald trump wants to go into the debate with hillary clinton saying i don't support a bill that would take wait guns from terrorists. so i think in some ways trump can lead this effort. he certainly doesn't owe anything to congressional republicans who are not wildly backing him. but this certainly, this is an issue where republicans are starting to defy the nra who the nra opposes that senate bill. that's the bill to watch that could become law. >> okay. i want to get back to representative steve israel. he's back. he's not on facetime. he's at the camera for us. representative israel, take us there. you're there. what is happening? >> well, they're bringing more chinese food into the cloak room and pizza into the cloak room and my colleagues are bringing more pillows on to the floor of the house.
we xbekt this will expect this long night. >> i think you're first person to facetime live on international television from the house floor. congratulations for. that but you heard the argument playing out. this say very contentious argument. you know, radio talk show hosts ben ferguson who say republican says this would have changed nothing about orlando. >> well, you can make that argument. and he may be correct about that. there are lots of things that would have changed orlando. more mental health screening, more investments in mental health. what democrats are saying to republicans is if you're not willing to engage us on all of those issues, then let's pass the one issue where there is a massive agreement where members of the nra agree. where donald trump agrees and hillary clinton and that son the no fly, no buy bill. and they're not willing to even give us that vote which is why we're forced to do what we're doing this evening. >> all right. thank you very much congressman. we appreciate that.
that is congressman steve israel reporting to us. he is reporting. he did some reporting for us this evening. >> he sure did. >> from the house floor. again, i want to say we're following something that is unprecedented what is happening here. this is something that really stirs passion among americans. we're going to hear from a gop representative on the other side of this break. ♪ the sun'll come out tomorrow... ♪ for people with heart failure, tomorrow is not a given. but entresto is a medicine that helps make more tomorrows possible. ♪ tomorrow, tomorrow... ♪ i love ya, tomorrow in the largest heart failure study ever. entresto helped more people stay alive and out of the hospital than a leading heart failure medicine.
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news. there is a sit in happening now live on the house floor. democrats demanding gun legislation. and the pictures that you're looking at are coming in now from periscope because the republicans have shut the camera off. they wanted to adjourn. they're going to come back and try to handle business. vote on some bills and then do an official adjournment. who knows how this is going to play out now that there is a sit in and the democrats have taken over the floor of the house of representatives. i want to bring in now republican congressman lee zelbin of new york. he joins us. and i also have my panel with me. i want to say who i have with me. bob cusack is here, editor in chef of the hill, andy dean, gloria borger, dana bash, mr. mark preston all here as well. they may chime in and have questions for you. i have to ask you, congressman, did the speaker of tf of the ho make a mistake by not allowing this vote? >> well, no, the speaker has been focused this week on passing appropriations bill this
week we're supposed to pass the financial services appropriations bill. getting the zika funding approved. the funding for the va. these are all pieces of legislation that we're supposed to pass this week. the appropriations process is pretty much shut down right now because of what's going on on the house floor. so there are a lot of very important priorities. i wouldn't want to discount all of the other important pieces of legislation that we're working through the process. >> so are you for or against having a vote on this? are you for or against this type of legislation? >> i actually have legislation to prevent terrorists from being able to purchase firearms and explosives. i would like to see a vote on my proposal. so, you know, as far as i go, yeah. that would be great. >> so why not vote on this one and see -- check the outcome and then vote on yours as well? >> i think it's real important that as we look at different pieces of legislation it's important that we prevent terrorists from being able to not just be able to acquire a
six hour rifle, but being able to acquire a small handgun that was actually we saw it in orlando, a hand gun was used. any type of explosive. i don't want to see any access whatsoever to anything that can could unused to carry out a terrorist attack. what happened in orlando is we had a shooter who is a radicalized islamic terrorist chanting with deep hatred of the lgbt community. so while we're having this debate, there is ab important reality as well that we have bigger threat on our hands not just oversea ntz middle east but here at home where a group and individuals who want to disrupt our way of life. >> i just want to get a concise answer to my question. why not vote on this one and then see what happens and then vote on yours? this doesn't have to be the final outcome? why not? >> well, you know, that's up'speaker when wants a vote on the other bill. i'm advocating for the fwhal
provides due process protections for law bigd citizens. i it this burden should be on the government before depriving any type of rights for the law-abiding citizen that there is hearing, notice, right to council that you're mesel couns neating the probable cause f put someone on the watch list who actually isn't a suspectsed terrorist, for them to start losing all sorts of other rights is a real problem. and if you start taking away second amendment rights, then maybe what type of discussion should be had about taking away first amendment rights, fourth amendment rights? so for me the oath that we take, i believe that we should never bring legislation before the house or the senate that takes way any constitutional rights whatsoever. and some are advocating for a proposal that doesn't provide due process. so that's my concern with the other piece of legislation or other legislation that's out there. >> all right. gloria has a question. >> congressman, do you believe that the speaker then should just allow a vote on this? >> well, the speaker -- i mean
i've been advocating for a vote on my bill. >> no, on this particular bill which people are discussing. i know you may disagree with parts of this bill. you prefer your bill. but should they allow -- should the speaker just allow a vote on this? >> here's a great question wlachlt bill exactly are they talking about? because i have heard references to many different pieces of legislation. i bet you if i went on the house floor right now -- >> this is the king bill we're talking about, right. >> i don't believe that there should be a vote on that legislation. in my opinion, and it's my opinion, the due process protections that are there, that aren't there is of great concern to me. and we have an oath. we have a duty that we take to protect the constitutional rights of our citizens. so i strongly believe that we should do everything in our power to ensure that terrorists are not able to have access to any type of firearm, any type of explosive.
i just think it's incredibly important how we draft the legislation beyond just that sound bite. so as far as that one bill, i don't support it. i don't believe that it should be voted on. if it is voted on, i don't believe it should be passed. >> but, you know, even if they were -- should they allow a vote on your legislation then? i mean, any kind of legislation that addresses this particular issue and should the speaker do that? >> yeah. that's up to the speaker. i don't advocate for votes for bills that i don't support. it's up to the speaker if he wants to bring votes on any pieces of legislation out there other than the ones i'm behind and advocating for. it is counterproductive for me to be advocating for progress on a piece of legislation and i have strong objections to. as far as bringing the bill up for a vote, if it came up for a vote, that's fine. i would vote no. i would hope that my colleagues
would as well. because of the due process protections that are in the legislation that i introduced and i strongly advocate for. >> thank you, congressman. we appreciate it representative lee zeldin. you can see, you know, he said he is interested in having some sort of legislation. i wonder through the questioning if it's but my bill. what about my bill sort of -- you know, does he want his name on it? he says, no, he doesn't think this bill is the right one. >> you think the measure is unconstitutional, can you vote against it. there are plenty of measures that have been brought to the floor. >> i have to take a break. we'll be right back with our breaking news. live pictures you're looking at right now from the floor of the house where democrats have taken over the floor. how long will this go on? it is anybody's guess.
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