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cnn go. see you back here monday. "ac 360" begins right now. john berman in for anderson. we begin with a brutal wakeup call that millions of americans got this morning. simply put, their retirement savings, for some even their jobs may depend on the historic choice british voters made to leave the european union. that's just the money impact here. for britain it means a new prime minister and perhaps end of the united kingdom as we know it. decades of the european unification after the second world war could be fracturing, means a measure of turmoil, even chaos, where 24 hours ago there was a predictatorable set of rules. now everyone is in uncharted waters. hasn't happened before, not even close. we will hit all of the angles tonight. first, the bottom line here. an ugly bottom line.
stocks took a pounding. do you down more than 600 points. lost more than $800 million of value. ali velshi, thanks for being with us. great to see you. the market hung a crooked number to use a baseball term. a lot of americans are looking at 401(k)s this evening and sweating. what do you say? >> don't worry too much about this. there was a time i would worry about numbers like that. to put in perspective, 3 and change%. we have seen this, anybody more than 20 years old has seen swings in the market of this magnitude. it is because as you said yesterday we had predictable set of rules. this is a different set of rules, this is no one knows what the rules are. take my money out and i will get back in once somebody tells me it is okay to get in.
veteran investors were piling in, you saw it swing from 600 points lower, back to 300, back to 600. closed on downward direction and lowest part of the market, indicates more will happen monday. you're going to see a little unsettlement, but i don't think when people do the math they'll realize it isn't all that influential. >> makes for uncomfortable time, uncomfortable weekend but we can survive. connect the dots. in britain there are real problems. their economy faces serious questions. they're worried about a recession. connect the dots between the recession there and the economy here. >> we have the feds saying they want to raise interest rates, have only done once in many years. they're thinking the economy is now strong enough to stand on its own. they were going to raise it four times. then the fed hinted once.
now britain maybe turning into recession. that means the fed isn't going to think the u.s. economy is strong enough. those waiting for interest rates to go up, that's not going to happen probably. will it trigger recession, there's a chance u.s. could go into recession in the next 18 months. this is probably not the triggering event. u.s. trade with the eu is good. trade with uk on its own not that meaningful. this is a serious political issue, a very serious issue for the uk, relatively serious for europe, less so for america. >> maybe not a problem it goes into the soup. >> right. >> more to talk about on the global aftershocks. right now, let's get to the epicenter of this. clarissa ward reports from london. >> reporter: it is the biggest shock in the history of modern british politics, and possibly one of the greatest political miscalculations ever made.
>> total votes in favor of leave was 17,410,742. this means that the united kingdom voted to leave the european union. >> reporter: hours later, the prime minister announced he would resign. >> i think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. >> reporter: the people who master minded the leave campaign were quick to praise the prime minister and are convinced their approach is the correct one. including the former london mayor. >> there's simply no need in the 21st century to be part of a federal system of government based in brussels that is imitated nowhere else on earth. it was a noble idea for its time. it is no longer right for this country.
>> reporter: londoners didn't appear to welcome johnson's role in the campaign, yet there's much speculation that he will stand for prime minister. while some celebrated the way the counts unfolded, the result provoked widespread concern about the state of the economy and general confusion about what the future holds. president obama, an early supporter of remaining in the eu said in a statement that the people have spoken. >> while the uk's relationship with eu will change, one thing that will not change is the special relationship that exists between our two nations. that will endure. the eu will remain one of our indispensable partners. >> reporter: the vote divided britain, scotland, northern ireland, wanted in, everyone else wanted out. immigration was the primary issue on the campaign. >> let june 23rd go down in a blustery bizarre independence day! >> reporter: how these
differences are reconciled and what role britain will have on the world stage are issues that will likely take years to resolve. >> clarissa ward joins us now, want to bring in richard quest, and christiane amanpour, anchor of amanpour. you guys have been working hard. this is beyond unusual. yes, there was a vote. i suppose we all knew it could go either way. christiane, in the last 24 hours, the dominoes that have fallen are simply shocking. >> i mean, they really are. look, this is the first time any country left the eu voluntarily. you heard nigeriaal far aj talk about independence day as if it wasn't a free and sovereign country. on the other side hearing things like self inflicted wound and economic suicide and i have been talking to foreign leaders, i have been talking to the british foreign secretary. all are convinced this is bad
for britain, no matter how much they want to stabilize the situation. britain's voice will be less strong and there's no question about it. britain will take a serious economic hit as all the economists have said and britain will find it very difficult to negotiate not just the divorce from europe but a whole slew of new trade agreements for the future. the germans told me that today, they don't want to see a contagion. the saddest commentary was from young people who voted overwhelmingly to remain and according to projections will have 69 years to live be this decision while the oldies who voted overwhelmingly to leave, a lot of people are angry, hearing it in families, the young are very angry about what's happened and the gamble being taken with their future. >> all this, and david cameron,
british prime minister, clarissa, one of the most prominent leaders in the world quit, says he is leaving in the fall but leaving because of this vote, after one of the just worst political bets or biggest failures of a political bet of all time. >> that's right, john. i think what everybody is struggling with or trying to get to grips with essentially is how shocking it was, even though the polls said over and over again that this was neck in neck, this could go either way. certainly the reaction this morning from britains on both sides who voted to leave and voted to remain using words like stunning, momentous, astonishing. it only really started to sink in this morning waking up in this new britain, the depths of this decision and ramifications potentially for the future. while conservative parties came out and said david cameron, still support him, should continue in his role as prime
minister, i think behind closed doors there was realization there was no way to stay on in the face of having catastrophically lost such a big gamble. >> one brit expressed a great deal of shock, richard quest. i was watching you last night. you called this the vote of your lifetime and you looked frankly very surprised. you know, 24 hours in, what's your feeling? >> still surprised, still shocked. when we started covering it last night, look, i traveled britain the last couple weeks. i knew by the time brexit was probably going to win. then the merger of joe cox. thought that would tip it the other direction. when we started last night, john, it was obviously going to be 48-50, one way or the other. but which way, it went backwards and forwards until the first results came in.
then we realized that leave was winning by two or three percentage points more than expected and remain was two or three percentage points less than expected. the majesty of an election night is as the process goes on, you realize the result that's going to come out and it becomes mathematically impossible for the other side to win. that happened about 6:00, 5:00, 6:00 in the morning. it was startling, amazing, shocking, wonderful. all these adjectives could be thrown up because the british people rightly or wrongly as christiane points out, the british people spoke last night. >> it was completely unknown, uncertain what happens next. christiane, as you look at this, how much of the vote can be attributed to the issue of immigration, this idea of securing the borders that we
heard so much about in the months before the election. >> well, it turns out that it was about immigration and here's where the fault is. this was a referendum on staying in or out of the eu, not referendum on immigration policy, so those that voted to get out and hoped to see a wholesale change in immigration policy are going to find it is not going to be like that. there are all sorts of other issues involved here, including more than half of britain's immigration comes from outside the eu, so all those issues, plus as you know the nigel far aj, uk group which had barely veiled posters and commentary, that group has been the one that pushed this referendum and who has obviously succeeded in the tactics of fear and hate and all of that. that's what happened. that's what played out. yes, people are concerned about immigration but this according to other experts wasn't going to
be the way to control immigration, and the idea of take our country back, take back control, these are slogans that the campaign used that meant nothing because it is a sovereign country, great britain, but really resonating. britain unlike any other european country has borders, you have to show passports. it can keep criminals and others out. now it is going to see it may not have access to the european arrest warrant, may not have easy access to be able to get criminals extradited or back in terrorist cases like they worked so hard to get, so this really is another leap into the dark and the unknown and the leave camp have not been able to tell us exactly what the future is going to look like. we asked over and over and over again, ever since the referendum date was set in february and there were no specifics from the leave camp. >> it is unknown, it hasn't happened before. >> right. >> clarissa ward, over here it is seen as an anti-elite vote.
obviously something that people think could happen or has happened in the primaries in the united states as well. how much of this do you see as being anti-elitism? >> that's definitely a component here, i think there's a very real sense on the ground as everybody tries to get their arms around this that there's a lot of soul searching needs to be done. how was it that donald trump himself that the prime minister misread the mood of the country. how is it most people did assume that somehow the establishment would prevail. when you look at the geographical maps and see the breakdown, the demographics of the vote, you see with the exception of scotland, ireland, most of the country voted to leave the eu, you realize there's a sense here in the uk as you have seen in the us that
they aren't seeing that. >> a lot more to talk about, including that. donald trump's reaction from his golf course in scotland. credit he claimed, blame he leveled on president obama, and controversy he caused there and here. all of it. later, breaking news out of west virginia. fire, flooding, 20 lives lost so far. we will bring a late update on what tomorrow can bring. this is my family. being a part of helping people in need is who i am. working at brookdale for me is not just a job, it's a life for me. i love it. i formed many connections with the residents. i feel like i am part of their family and they're part of mine. if you can get up in the morning, ya know,
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brexit, donald trump was making the case, what he has been saying all along just with an english accent. he drew parallels between what british voters did last night and what he is hoping american voters will do this fall. that remains to be seen. however, his remarks in scotland stirred controversy there and here. more on that from cnn's jim acosta. >> reporter: don't look now, trumpism just crossed the atlantic. at least that's how donald trump sees's britain's brexit from the european union, drawing parallels to his own race. >> people want to take their country back, they want to have independence in a sense, they want to be able to have a country again, so i think you're going to have this happen more and more, i really believe that
and i think it's happening in the united states. >> reporter: at the grand reopening of turnberry golf course in scotland, he hailed the vote as vindication of his push against what he considers to be the scourge of open borders. and the presumptive gop nominee shrugged off immediate panic in global financial markets as a potential business opportunity for britain and himself. >> when the pound goes down, more people are coming to turnberry frankly. >> reporter: he welcomed the political fallout where david cameron announced he is stepping down. they tangled over trump's proposal to ban muslims entering the u.s. and chose opposing sides over brexit. >> he was wrong on this, didn't get the mood of his country right. >> reporter: he tweeted scotland was going wild over the vote. the return showed scotland decided to remain in the eu. >> the world doesn't listen to him. >> reporter: but it was a victory lap for trump, he slammed president obama and
hillary clinton weighing into politics against brexit. >> she doubled down, did the same thing. obviously for the 219th time, they were wrong. >> reporter: clinton responded to brexit saying this time of uncertainty only underscores the need for calm, steady, experienced leadership in the white house. her campaign savaged trump's reaction as frightening. >> not concerned for the american people or their retirement accounts or their security, he is concerned with himself and that's it. >> reporter: trump says he has the business skills the country needs. >> the country is not a golf course. >> it is not, but it is called a place that has to be fixed. there's nobody knows how to fix things like me. >> reporter: he opened the news conference with a sales pitch for the golf course, turning it over to his three adult children. trump pledged to keep using properties for campaign events, asking why go anywhere else.
>> number one, i have the best properties. why should i use somebody else's properties? >> jim acosta joins us, the clinton campaign already has part of what donald trump said as part of a campaign video. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: that's right, john. it doesn't take long. hillary clinton has an ad that focuses on the comment he made earlier that brexit could be beneficial to the british economy and his golf course in turnberry. we should mention trump is fund-raising off brexit results in an e-mail. he says with your help we're going to do the same thing on election day 2016 in the united states of america, and john, should point out tomorrow elvis it another one of his golf courses where some residents raised mexican flags to criticize his rhetoric on immigration. he has one more opportunity to tee off on brexit. >> jim acosta, thanks so much. ali velshi joining us, and trump
campaign co-chair, and trump critic tara setmayer and rick lazio, hillary clinton's senate race opponent, former member of congress, and jeffrey lord. you were not here. donald trump said that could be good for turnberry. he also cheered the decision made by british voters, that as the stock market here in the u.s. dropped some 600 points. is it dangerous to be cheering like that for him? >> no. john, this is capitalism. one of the things we've gotten too used to in america and britain what margaret thatcher called socialist ratchet, conservative parties kept moving it left, slower degrees. the fact that donald trump is there celebrating the golf course, that's a capitalist institution. this is all for the good. we need more of this, not less of it. >> also you're on a first name basis with margaret thatcher.
not on a first name basis, still, donald trump is claiming he is tapping into the same sentiment here as britain. do you think that's true? >> i think it is. brexit was motivated by a couple of issues, economy, trade, immigration. who has been talking about that. i think democrats will be a little concerned a guy with a big flowing blonde head of hair, helped convince brits to be united in the globalist economy is not the right thing to do. the most interesting take away for the democrats i believe is to look at the labor party. the labor party led by jeremy corbin was unable to work white middle class voters. got the activists to vote but lost white middle class voters that went with the notion this system isn't working. now hillary clinton is out there saying we were wrong, but trust the establishment, trust the establishment. it is the wrong message.
>> what happens in the uk stay in the uk? or rever better agencies here? >> i think people will say that's like what happened here like joe did. i actually don't have a problem with the brexit vote. a lot of the issue is sovereignty and the disaster the eu has been, so i get it for them. more importantly what you should be upset or concerned about, the fact that donald trump had no idea anything about brexit, what the implications were, didn't know that scotland voted for it. wasn't until a hollywood reporter interview a couple of weeks ago he was like what is it, they explained it to him. oh, yeah, i think they should get out. i think that's malpractice on the part of someone running for the presidency and blown opportunity to campaign there, since the campaign pays for this business trip, for him to show that he is actually learned on the issues and take interest in them. he admitted he wasn't paying attention.
why not? britain is our greatest ally in the world, you're not paying attention? why not? for seven weeks he has been the presumptive nominee. he has been going around insulting judges and worrying about lawsuits for his businesses. that's what worries republicans like myself about his readiness to be president of the united states. is he serious or is it about golf courses, which are losing money. >> had he spoken to foreign policy advisers, did he bring them to consult, because what's happening there, his answer was i talked to them, there's not that much to discuss. >> obviously this is action with implications for the u.s. and the rest of the world. the most important voice in terms of advancing free enterprise within the eu was the uk and with them not being part of that, it's bad news for american business on the telecom
side, terrible news for franklin services sector where it was a voice for moderate regulation, better understanding of financial markets. so if you're looking at it in terms of what implications for the u.s., not as great as for the people of the uk or eu, but we're going to be effected by this as well. what he missed was the opportunity to show some nuance. yes, you could argue it is a reflection of a sub par economy, that people are looking for better jobs, a lot of economic uncertainty, yes, concern about immigration and other forces that seem to be effecting workers in the uk like the u.s., you can draw some parallels, but he needed to show that he understood what implications of an exit were for the world, for the eu, for u.s. alliance and the u.s. itself. >> we will get to that on the other side of the break. we have more to discuss, including political impact of the brexit vote here in the united states. just ahead, the impact, split decision by the supreme court on immigration policy,
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president obama spoke by phone with david cameron, britain's outgoing prime minister, reassuring him the british, u.s. relationship is a vital part of u.s. policy. he spoke with the germany chancellor angela merkel, expressing regret for the outcome. >> i believe we are better off in a world in which we are trading, networking, communicating, and sharing ideas. but that also means cultures are colliding, sometimes it is disruptive and people get worried. >> here at home, economic change, immigration, mistrust of government and the experts, all
part of the mix in great britain and france, netherlands, and the united states, donald trump said as much, including the outcome of the vote in britain last night. back with the panel, among things donald trump said, hillary clinton if she knows foreign policy so well, was secretary of state four years, served the senate, how was she so wrong on the british vote. does he have a point? >> no, he proved in one moment he is deplorable, unfit to be the leader of the united states. i think you look at the vote, it was led by a bombastic leader, also -- in bore is johnson, fueled in part by right wing groups popping up all over europe. i think austerity budgets, things in greece are part of the story, immigration is another
part. the common thread is fear and what i think donald trump has done to sort of bring the two together. what he has done, campaign on fear, he stoked that fear. i don't care what he thinks of hillary clinton's role. what i believe is that he is stoking that fear, makes him unfit to lead. >> you're saying, you're explaining why you think britain voted the way they did. whether or not you agree or not, if donald trump can stoke that same fear here. >> i have been getting into a twitter battle with people saying i don't know what you have to be critical about, the people have spoken. two things to be critical about. one, there was no reason for the vote to happen, no grass roots movement to get out of the eu. little movements through europe. david cameron was getting pressure from the right side of the caucus, euro skeptics that
don't like the idea. to play indicate them, he said let's have a referendum and he miscalculated. be mad at the leave campaign that didn't talk about what the eu does or doesn't do, they ran an emotional, fear based, xenophobic, talking immigration. christiane pointed out wisely, this is not the shang again system. you go in once, roam around europe unmolested. can't do that with the uk. you show your passport every time you go and leave. those that voted in favor of leaving answered a question they didn't ask. a lot of them were voting -- >> all of you get the willies when you think he called for the referendum. >> councilman, i want to ask you this. talking to ron brownstein, he points out that in the uk north of 85% of voters are white.
some exit polls north of 90 of people that showed up to vote are wliet. how far do similarities go between there and here? in the u.s. national election, nowhere near that number. >> i don't profess to know the racial politics of great britain other than there is an issue with immigration there that's somewhat similar to here, people perceive that people are coming and taking jobs. that drove a lot of it. i am not sure you can draw that much parallel other than people perceive a problem. barack obama himself talked about problem with illegal immigration in his book in 2004. he is the one that started, not started but mentioned people coming from outside compete with people for jobs. >> congressman, about 45 seconds left. a lot happened, speeches with hillary clinton and donald trump, brexit vote. what a week. where are we now in the election? is donald trump better off than he was at the beginning of the
week? >> he had three disastrous weeks in a row. one thing to keep in mind, is this fear we are talking about in the uk not created by bore is johnson, in the u.s. not created by donald trump. two-thirds think we are on the wrong track. enormous economic insecurity and fear. candidate that can speak to that, trump has yet to hit that sweet spot, will win the election. >> he is trying. >> he is beginning. he has to have a narrative, depth. he has to have policy prescription to address the issues that effect the economy. >> all right. >> cogent, doesn't, as a minority in the republican party who has watched this many, many years go on, the way truchlz is doing it, he is placating a certain aspect of the republican party that is not a good one and that is fear. not going to be the result we tried for years to accomplish when you go after people on
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breaking news, financial and political fallout when uk voters vote to exit the european union. the dow sank more than 600 points. a lot of people wonder what it means for the u.s. british relationship. i got thoughts on that when i talked to britain's ambassador to the united states. in simple terms, how much harder is your job today than yesterday? >> what struck me since the vote happened, since the result was clear, was how many people, with president obama and speaker paul ryan or secretary of state kerry have spoken publicly about their
continuing support for the relationship and how the united states and uk relationship will be strong as ever. and i think we will continue to work together really closely on the world's hot spots and trouble spots and i think the relationship will continue to be in great shape. >> joining us again from london, richard quest and christiane amanpour. christiane, what about the special relationship between the uk and u.s. less special or different special now? >> different special, maybe just as special, but less effective, i don't know. i spoke to the ambassador's boss, the foreign secretary phil hammond as this resolve was becoming clear. he said of course we'll continue to have strong defense, intelligence, security and other cooperation with the united states. we'll still have a strong bilateral relationship, but we will be diminished in leverage. part of our leverage is being part of this big union, the eu. certainly the americans have always looked to britain to kind
of add some throw way, bring leverage, to bring other europeans to doing a lot of foreign policy goals and aims that the u.s. wants to do. so he said diminished. people thought it was frank to say that kind of thing, but i think there's no question that for instance people said why should the chinese listen to the british as much as they used to when they have less influence on the u.s. because they have let influence with the eu, the big, big block. >> richard, i was struck by something we heard from leaders, heard from president obama and vice president biden, jack lew, everyone trying to reassure everyone that everything will be okay. these are the same people that 24 hours ago and the last several months said the sky is going to fall if brexit happens, so doesn't this make the case that voters were saying, that
things won't be as bad as everyone is painting it to be? >> that is exactly the argument that's being put forward, having said crisis, apocalypse, crisis, calamity, now they have to turn around and say it may not be as bad if we do the right things and in the right order, but that's the world of politics. you take the facts as you find them and now the people have spoken. you have to live with that. i think the reality is that the fundamental first goal is to make sure the global economy which we already know is extremely fragile is not made much worse. it would be very easy. not going to throw the u.s. into recession, not going to cause massive depression across europe but certainly could so imbalance this very weak apple cart of the economy that everybody will suffer, and that's why they're flooding the market with
liquidity, the fed, bank of england made it quite clear, whatever it takes, they'll make sure no bank goes under because of it. >> richard, you look to europe now, who is next, who is the next likely country to try this, if any? >> oh, there's plenty of candidates from the dutch to france to the spanish, the italians, they've all got right wing extremist groups calling for referendum in the last 24 hours, but the likelihood of anybody getting one off the ground is remote and the reason is because in the case of the uk the fox was well and truly in the cabinet, in the government. it was the ruling party that was causing the problem so it was easier to get this thing started. the rest of them will just be noise, disturbance. there will be a lot offroth and distress but nobody else has
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advil. more breaking news tonight. at least 20 people dead across west virginia after devastating flooding. here is alarming video. a house on fire, that's a house moving down a creek in white sulphur springs after heavy rains. many towns are underwater. 44 counties in the state have declared a state of emergency. at least 200 members of the national guard have been mobilized. derrick van dam is in the weather center. we have historic flooding and heavy rain. >> the national weather service describes it as a thousand ye year event.
one in 1,000 years. it is the deadliest flood event of 2016 and it has killed more than all tornado events so far this year. here's a google earth image. we're going to zoom into the hardest-hit areas, talking about charleston and elk view. water seeks is own level. when people build on steep mountain sides and along banks of the river, eventually we're going to have problems. we see rainfall that continues to move over an area for a continuous period of time, dumping heavy amounts of rainfall, you're going to have flash flooding. we have rainfall totals in excess of nine inches in a few locations. keep in mind that a lot of the rain fell in about a 6 to 12 hour period, so a lot of rain in a short period of time. you see it in southeastern sections of west virginia and central sections of the state.
now, we talked about rivers cresting with flash flooding that took place. the elk river which i showed you on google maps, that broke a 125 year crest record. it already dropped below flood stage, which is good news. the rain has subsided for that region. here's the latest flood warnings from the national weather service. southeastern portions of west virginia, including lewisburg, outside charleston. you can see the rainfall moving away from the state. john? >> derek van dam, good news. thanks so much. other breaking news, uk voters shocking the world, leaving the european union or voting to. many did so out of an open stated belief that immigration was out of control, that britain as they see it would no longer be british. there are some parallels here, some people see. donald trump made it explicit, talking about britain's borders and our own. on top of that, yesterday's supreme court court decision blocking a key part of president
obama's immigration policy put it more squarely into the presidential campaign. tonight, the impact not on millions of voters or immigrants, tonight the story of one. rosa flores is in chicago with one woman that worries her american dream could be over. >> reporter: what's it like to live in the shadows? >> scary because you don't know if one day you're going to come home and see your family there. >> reporter: she wants to be known only by her first name, rosa. she says she has been forced to lead a secret life close to 20 years. she was nine years old when her parents carried her across the border from mexico illegally. they settled in chicago, she was raised as an american. >> i have been here my whole life. i would say just because i wasn't born here, i went to school here from kindergarten to high school, college. >> reporter: being forced to
return to a country she doesn't know is a fear she says she has lived with for most of her life. >> i would always like imagine myself growing up here, living here forever. >> reporter: her dream finally seemed possible when president obama announced his executive action on immigration in june, 2012. what was your reaction when president obama issued his executive order. >> i knew i could stay here, i could stay here at least living without having to be scared. >> reporter: rosa had just graduated high school and was attending college when she applied for a work permit. she received it six months later and immediately found a job. but her sense of security was short-lived. it ended thursday after the supreme court's deadlock on the immigration plan. >> i feel kind of scared again because i not permit is only for so long, and i don't know what's
going to happen in the future. >> reporter: what would you tell critics that say that president obama overstepped his boundary, that he doesn't have the executive power to allow undocumented people to stay here. >> i feel people should educate themselves more about both of the sides. i know a lot of people are afraid, thinking one side is i don't see why they should be here, shouldn't have been here in the first place. >> reporter: her parents are also undocumented and may be forced to leave as well. she says her entire future could be in the hands of the next president of the united states. >> reporter: do you have hope that something good will happen for you and your family? >> i feel i have to have hope or else i'm doomed, doomed myself to be upset the whole time. i have to have hope. >> rosa flores joins us now. what does the family plan to do now?
>> reporter: john, this family is in a tough situation. her father tells me he is thinking about moving his family to canada or mexico. he puts it like this. he says, rosa, i would rather move my family away and avoid the fear we have been living with all these years, and that fear he is talking about is having immigration agents come to his home or to his place of employment and take him away. he thinks by doing it his way, by self deporting that he would have time to sell his property and move his family with a little dignity. john? >> rosa flores, thanks so much. we will be right back. is on honors members save up to 25% on brands like hampton, doubletree, hilton garden inn, and waldorf astoria so stop clicking around. book direct at hilton.com now that's satisfaction. for crash survival, subaru has developed ours most revolutionary feature yet.
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that does it for us. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. the conventional wisdom wrong again. this is cnn tonight, i am don lemon. conventional wisdom in the uk and around the world was that brexit wouldn't happen. just as the wisdom here that donald trump would never get the nomination. and we all know how that turned out. will we look back years from now, say this is the summer when everything changed in the uk, europe, and right here at home. donald trump certainly seems to think so. >> i think you're going to have this