Skip to main content

tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  June 30, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT

5:00 pm
. thank you so much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening. jake tapper here sitting in for anderson. we begin with breaking news this evening and a photograph. three young men caught on camera dressed for the cold in the middle of summer. we are showing this because authorities want anyone who knows them to come forward. the question, are these the three men who turned istanbul's main international airport into a slaughterhouse? are they the ones responsible for so many senseless deaths? 44 and counting. so many grievous injury, so many lives upended and so many stories that will now be untold. are they the ones? even as investigators try to figure this all out they're learning more about where the killers, wherever they are, likely came from. russia, uzbekistan, kyrgyzstan all by way of isis-controlled raqqah in syria. in addition tonight along with
5:01 pm
the stories of the killers. and the fallen, we're learning more about heroes such as the policeman seen here. he ran up to one of the bombers and tried to make sure that the bomber was dead, and tried to make sure the bomber did not set off the explosive vest and we'll tell you more about him in just a moment and first with more on the investigation here's cnn's nima elbagir. >> reporter: this is a pretty typical street in the conservative district offis tan bill, but the estate agent who manages this property told us he was brought in by police to confirm that the men they showed him on cctv footage that they rented this property from him. >> up just one flight of stairs, this is it. this is where turkish authorities have told us they believe the three attackers holed up for a month and the attackers, they say came directly from raqqah, and all evidence the turkish authorities currently have in their
5:02 pm
possession point toward the isis leadership's direct involvement in the planning, the commissioning and the execution of the attack on ataturk airport. >> we've been walking around the neighborhood trying to discover what, if anything, anyone saw and this garage is directly overlooked by the flat rented by the attackers. he's agreed to speak with us. >> translator: sometimes i would see them when they opened the window to smoke and to get some fresh air, but they never opened the curtains. we have been anxious as locals here. since a growing number of foreigners moving into this neighborhood, but of course, you can never ask who are you to someone. it's not our duty. there are police and other officials in this country who should be dealing with it. >> reporter: people here are feeling worried, they're feeling tense and understandably, very few of the neighbors in this building agreed to speak on camera, but one woman described
5:03 pm
to us on sunday, two days before the attack was launched, smelling something chemical, a strong chemical smell emanating from the flat rented by the attackers that she said filled the entire building. it was down this street that the attackers walked toward the neighborhood square. turkish security sources say it's here that the men flagged down the taxi that would take them on that fatal trip to ataturk airport where horror would soon unfold. today in the very same square life seems eerily normal. >> and nima elbagir joins us from the airport. nima, have investigators been able to determine what kindses of explosives these terrorists used or even how they got them? >> reporter: turkey's interior minister says it was a combination. this explosive was a combination of tnt, rdx and petn. petn is a very sensitive and
5:04 pm
very powerful, military-grade explosive and we also are hearing from our turkish sources that this was manufactured outside of turkey and then they were able to smuggle it in. they also, we understand, were able to spend a month in that apartment that we showed you undetected and you saw that some of the neighbors had begun to be concerned. there was this extraordinary chemical smell that they said permeated the building and that didn't seem to be enough even though they were talking amongst themselves and some were suggesting, talking to author y authorities it wasn't enough to trigger the authorities' suspicion and the neighbors. part of the reason they're uncomfortable speaking on camera, jake, is they feel the weight of guilt. should they, could they have done more? >> nima, thank you so much. continuing with our breaking news coverage. with all we're learning tonight about plain and simple, a hero. the man at the top of the frame fits the description. someone who sees danger and runs towards it, not away from it. we've wondered all week, who is
5:05 pm
this police officer and tonight we know. we also know about two others and it's downright heartbreaking. a father and mother on their way, they had hoped to make contact with the son, their only son who had run off to try to join isis. they were hoping to bring him home. now she is a widow and the son will never see his father again. cnn's ivan watson has the stories and what can you tell us about this police officer? >> reporter: well, we have his name now. it's durnna, a police officer, who appears to have brought down one of the attackers and goes to take a look at the man in the video and then realizing, perhaps that the attacker was rigged with a suicide belt and explosives and he then sprint away to escape the blast. mr. durna is in hospital right
5:06 pm
now and he's being treated for injuries during that encounter and we've been told that his spleen has been removed. in last night's broadcast, jake, we talked to survivors, eyewitnesses of the attack who described the police, the emergency response workers as heroes because they literally protected the passengers and the workers at the airport from these suicidal attackers and this man is one of them. there is another video that's emerged via the turkish news agency that appears to show security camera footage and in this, you get a sense of what cold-blooded killers these men were in this, you see a man in a corridor turning to what we have been told is an undercover police officer and almost casually appearing to shoot him with a pistol twice. those are the kinds of men that the security guards and police officers at the airport were
5:07 pm
facing on that terrible tuesday night. jake? >> and ivan, also there's the story of a tunisian doctor killed in the attacks while trying to retrieve his son who had just run away to try to join isis. such a tragic story. >> reporter: this is awful. dr. fati bayud, military doctor, chief of pediatrics in tunisia and his son anwar, a medical student, had left tunisia with his wife and said he would be an intern in switzerland. he informed the family months later that he had gone to syria to join isis as a medic. the father was in despair, a friend tells us and he came to turkey and was working with turkish authorities to try to get his son back and in fact, the son and the wife are in the custody of turkish authorities on the turkish border with syria. the father, dr. bayud was at the
5:08 pm
airport to pick up his wife and they were trying to get the son back to see him, and the father was one of the victims of isis, we believe, to be isis attackers killed in the attack on tuesday night here. his son, we are told, by the turkish foreign ministry will be returned to tunisian authorities. a wife has survived and she's now been made a widow and that is one man's story. dr. fati bayud who almost lost his son to isis and now seems to be yet another victim of this terrorist organization. >> just horrible. ivan watson. we are learning about two days' worth of u.s. and iraqi coalition attacks on convoys fleeing fallujah. we are getting differing numbers, either way, the numbers are substantial. the u.s. military saying coalition warplanes and about
5:09 pm
175 vehicles. the iraqis say combined coalition and iraqi forces destroyed 750. no word from u.s. officials on enemy casualties. joining us to discuss this all daily beast senior editor michael weiss, author of "isis, inside the army of terror" as well as philip mudd, former top official with the fbi and cia also joining us, cnn global affairs analyst, kimberly dozier. kimberly, let me start with you, these attackers, we are told are from russia, uzbekistan and kyrgyzstan and you say that shouldn't necessarily be a surprised given that 7,000 fighters from russia and central asia have gone to fight with isis. >> all places that have proven a fertile recruiting ground for isis because of the government's treatment of muslims there. so what you find is these thousands have come to syria, and now found themselves in the situation where the noose around
5:10 pm
raqqah is tightening, slowly, that's the defacto capital of isis, but it is tightening and they know that u.s. and other intelligence have been concentrate on them, probably have their names. they can't go home so they are the ones most likely to fight to the end. suicide attacks are really right up on the kind of assignment that they would probably sacrifice themselves for. >> michael, you say that one of the toughest battalions within isis is called the uzbek battali battalion. tell us more about the uzbek battalion and their role within isis. >> these guys apparently played a very important role in guarding fallujah which is the  iraqi city that has recently fallen to the iraqi government. when we say uzbek battalion, they often in syria and iraq refer to one nationality that encompasses many, actually. so you know, there are chechens in there and dagistaniss and the
5:11 pm
post-central asian republics. they're battle hardened and they've fought going back decades and bob baer has talked about this on the air and he was in uzbekistan as a cia operative at the time and knows just how tough these guys are and some of them were linked up with al qaeda and with the caucuses region of the russian federation and they tend to be called the caucuses emirates which is split now. there is a faction loyal to that leadership and another faction that has pledged allegiance to abu bakr al baghdadi and it has on its own soil, isis jihadis and there is another interesting aspect to this, too, jake. just up to the sochi olympics, the winter olympics in 2014 it was reported by the russian independent press and now reuters and the international crisis group, russia's federal security service or fsb was actually sending jihadis from dagestan into syria and the logic being better for them than
5:12 pm
being over there than to risk an international incident during a global sporting event. >> it was known as a green corridor. there's also the fact that some of these guys could have well been trained up in national militaries. you were talking about how cold-blooded that footage was, and he looked like he had proper military training and not the kind of stuff that you see in the cow patches of raqqah by isis 14-year-olds coming over from tunisia. he looks like a professional soldier. i wouldn't be surprised at all if one or more of these three suicide bomber his served in some capacity in their militaries. >> phil, in terms of the investigation, what do you make of the fact that these men were apparently operating and planning this attack out of that apartment for a month, undetected except for that woman who smelled chemicals, just a few miles away from the airport? >> let's not judge too quickly here, jake. you used the words undetected. there are two characteristics, whether the turks knew they had operatives on their hands.
5:13 pm
i doubt it. i suspect they're dealing with the same thing we're dealing with today sort of as we approach july 4th in the united states, that is there seais a we cadre of people that have support network. are they providing false documents? are they providing explosives? do they help to transport somebody from syria into turkey? when do you move against those folks? there is a significant difference, jake, whether it's in america or turkey between knowing that somebody is involved in a plot or understanding you have hundreds or thousands of people who are at some periphery of isis in having to sort through that in saying which of these people is going to conduct an attack. that's a problem for the fbi and it's a problem for the turks. >> kimberly, these attackers, it is believed were trained in raqqah, the headquarters or defacto capital of isis, if you consider that to be a caliphate and they were apparently able to bring the suicide vests and bombs that were used in the attack over the very porous
5:14 pm
syrian-turkish border. for those people that may not know, talk about how porous that border is. >> you hear from the white house that there's about 60 miles of that border that aren't yet sealed. it's a lot more porous than that, mountainous and desert in some areas. there are both official crossing points, but also a lot of as they call them goat trails or rat lines across where you can get everything from manpower across to material. three suicide vests are easy to hide on a car or on a donkey. >> phil, from an intelligence perspective, how are you ever sure that you have your arms fully around an investigation like this. as you suggest there are so many different moving parts and as you saw after the paris attacks, was there a raid, after another raid and a large nexus of people involved. i can only imagine that we'll see the same thing happening
5:15 pm
here in turkey. >> that's right. there's a critical piece of information just a few minutes, jake, that we ought to focus on. that is the identification of individuals in an apartment. you take that and you take their phone and email and you blow it out. who did they contact and you start them up with the network. that's the first step, jake. >> michael weiss, fill mudd and kimberly doeshier. thanks one and all. next, we'll turn to presidential politics including a new salvo in donald trump's battle with the party that is still, frankly, trying to grapple with the notion of nominating him. also trump's running mate search. he might choose new jersey governor chris christie or newt gingrich. that and more when "360" continues. stay with us. they think that it's sad. i think it's important for everyone to know that there is
5:16 pm
so much more to memory support than the stigmas you hearabout. that these residents still have lives and their lives still matter and that they are still living their lives. that they're not locked away and that they still have a lot to live for, you know, that they have people that care about them and they have people that love them and i love them, so (laughs). call now to find out how we can put our 30 years of understanding to work for your loved one today. don't you dare follow your dreams. think big. or demand your own space. don't you dare leave it all behind. don't you dare ask what's next. introducing the first-ever cadillac xt5. ♪ fight heartburn fast. with tums chewy delights. the mouthwatering soft chew that goes to work in seconds
5:17 pm
to conquer heartburn fast. tum tum tum tum. chewy delights. only from tums. is happening now at red lobster. summerfest and if you love lobster and shrimp, ...check out all these new entrees. like new coastal lobster and shrimp... ...with summer ale barbeque sauce, ...and new lobster and shrimp overboard. overboard? nah,'s just right. so hurry in. thanks for tnorfolk!around and i just wanted to say,
5:18 pm
geico is proud to have served the military for over 75 years! roger that. captain's waiting to give you a tour of the wisconsin now. could've parked a little bit closer... it's gonna be dark by the time i get there. geico®. proudly serving the military for over 75 years. world saleilton is on honors members save up to 25% on brands like hampton, doubletree, hilton garden inn, and waldorf astoria so stop clicking around. book direct at now that's satisfaction.
5:19 pm
welcome back to "360." we have breaking news for you this evening on donald trump and his struggles to unite the republican party. "the washington post" are discussing trump campaign aides are moving up the timing of discussing the vice presidential pick to bring voters into the fold before the convention. the post also reports that the vice presidential contenders under the most serious consideration, chris christie and newt gingrich are thick into the vetting process with gingrich reportedly the leading
5:20 pm
pick all that while mr. trump complains sometimes he feels he's battling two parties. >> reporter: just weeks before he's set to become thep republican nominee, donald trump isn't feeling like the life of the party. >> it's almost in some ways like i'm running against two parties. >> no kidding. >> i'm not sure it matters because i think we're going to win. >> reporter: trump talking about his past rivals refusing to endorse limb despite signing a gop loyalty pledge to support the party's eventual nominee, a document trump agree to himself. >> they broke their word, in my opinion. they should never be allowed to run for public office again because what they did is disgraceful. >> it's not just trump's opponents from the primaries. gop senators are hesitating to jump onboard. >> donald trump was not my first choice or my second choice. it will be very important to me whom donald trump chooses as his
5:21 pm
running mate. and that is arguably the most important decision that a candidate can make. >> on trump's vice presidential search, cnn has learned new jersey governor chris christie is being vetted by a campaign and one cautions it's not clear how high christie is on the list. utah senator mike leie is considering ted cruz, and he's furious that trump once floated a conspiracy theory about cruz's father. >> we can get into the fact that he accused my best friend's father of conspireing to kill jfk. >> cruz hasn't endorsed trump and it remains a top worry for republicans. consider his latest verbal assault on mexico. a key u.s. trading partner. >> their leaders are so much smarter, so much sharper and it's incredible. in fact, that could be a mexican plane up there. they're getting ready to attack.
5:22 pm
>> jim acosta is in manchester for us. for anybody watching, jim, the comment about the mexican plane, obviously, he was making a joke. >> reporter: he was joking there, jake, but it's pretty indicative of the tough trade talk he's been using all week long. earlier today at this event in manchester, new hampshire, he said hillary clinton, he guaranteed it that she will approve the transpacific trade partnership an agreement she says she opposes right now with just a few meaningless modifications, the campaign firing back that donald trump's products have been made overseas and from talking to people inside the trump campaign, jake, they understand that some of the trade talk is going to turn off a lot of republicans out there, but the hope is that it's going to bring in some disaffected bernie sanders supporters and some democrats out there in places like new hampshire and pennsylvania, and perhaps make up some of that difference and perhaps put them over the top in states like this, jake. >> jim accost a thanks so much. plenty for us to talk about. joining us trump supporter and
5:23 pm
former reagan adviser, and donna brazile and ryan lizzo, all three cnn political commentators. ryan, the washington. >> reporter:ing that newt gingrich is the front-runner to be the vp pick for donald trump followed by chris christie. two very big, outspoken personalities, controversial figures. unconventional options in an unconventional year? what do yoi make of it? ? well, it would harken back to the days when the v.p. had the attack dog role, not that trump necessarily needs his own attack dog. he's pretty good at criticizing hillary clinton on his own, but each of those men would be good in debates and they'd be good attack dogs against the democrat. trump has said, you know, he changes his mind quite a bit, but he has said that he wants someone that knows congress and someone that knows washington because he doesn't. chris christie doesn't know
5:24 pm
washington. he's never -- he's not a hill guy. newt gingrich, of course, would. gingrich would be a mixed bag if he were vice president in a trump administration. obviously does not have good relationships with democrats and he has complicated relationships even with republicans. if you were looking an lbj figure, gingrich, there are plusses and minuses there. on the picking before the convention, the danger with that is and in the convention itself is really drained of any drama, right? what's the big thing that happens? >> any positive drama. there will be definitely be drama. >> the big surprise is who the running mate is going to be and they would shoot that early and you'd lose that. >> donna, as someone who wants hillary clinton to win in november, who is the last person you want donald trump to pick? >> somebody that could appeal to a broad, what i call a broad section of the american people.
5:25 pm
someone who is reasonable, sensible, of course, ready to be president and no offense to -- and i know newt gingrich very well and chris christie. they're more like keynote speakers. they're not v.p. i mean, they're down punchers. they remind you of donald trump. i don't think they will bring a lot to donald trump. >> do you think bob corker, the senator from tennessee, john thune from south dakota may be the governor of oklahoma. it may help him not with a constituency, but somebody who not only knows washington, but is a different set of tone and i think he needs a real, authentic conservative and here i am a progressive and liberal telling conservatives that they need to pick somebody who is a conservative because when you see people like george will. when you hear my friend ana navarro and mary matalin and many others saying they will not support donald trump or you even heard susan collins or mitt romney and so many other people, i think he needs to pick a real,
5:26 pm
authentic conservative. newt gingrich is conservative, but more of a keynote speaker and down puncher. i don't see him. >> there's been talk of indiana governor mike pence who has been authsentic conservative. when you hear names on the top right now like chris christie, like newt gingrich, maybe even scott brown who has the rare honor of having been defeated for the senate in two different states, massachusetts and new hampshire, does that concern you at all? i agree that chris christie and newt gingrich are compelling personalities, but they haven't had huge success in recent years electorally. does that concern you at all as a trump supporter? i wrote a column making the case for gingrich. i don't know if he's going to vote for trump. newt would be terrific. to be perfectly candid, i don't think that vice presidents other
5:27 pm
than linden johnson who carried texas for john f. kennedy, we've had vice presidential kandz ats who were seen as a negative and we've had vice presidential candidates like edmund musky in 1968 and lloyd benson in 1988 who were a plus, so-called and there were tickets still lost and so i really think what you want here is somebody that the president can have lunch with every thursday, and trust. i think joe biden, frankly was terrific for barack obama as i think dick cheney and al gore were great. >> very interesting. somebody who could be an actual partner in the job. we will continue this conversation after the break, talking about donald trump's struggle to unite the party and who he will pick. coming up, a new development in the wake of the meeting between america's top law enforcement officer, attorney general loretta lynch and former president bill clinton, husband of the woman and presidential candidate whom lynch's justice department is investigating. stay with us. ♪ rock-a-bye michael, your day is through. ♪
5:28 pm
♪ cause sealy's support is perfect for you. ♪ only the sealy hybrid has posturepedic technology to support you where you need it most. sealy. proud supporter of you. what body aches?-gels, you'll ask what knee pain? what sore elbow? what joint pain? advil liqui-gels are so fast, they make pain a distant memory nothing works faster stronger or longer than advil liqui-gels the world's #1 choice what pain? advil.
5:29 pm
♪ you've wished upon it all year, and now it's finally here. the mercedes-benz summer event is back, with incredible offers on the mercedes-benz you've always longed for. but hurry, these shooting stars fly by fast. lease the gle350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. my cousin's wedding is c♪ming soon. i like the bride more than the groom. ♪ turquoise dresses... so excited. did all her exes get invited? no ones got moves like uncle joe. ♪ when it's go book on for instant rewards like gift cards, plus savings of up to 20%. book direct at
5:30 pm
oudairy or artificial flavors., so we invented a word that means that. shmorange! and it rhymes with the color of our bottle. hey, baby, make it your first word! (baby babble) not even close. reach for the orange, it's 100% shmorange! our vitamins contain no gluten, dairy or artificial flavors. so we invented a word that means that. shmorange! and it rhymes with the color of our bottle. to help spread the word, we made t-shirts! reach for the orange, it's 100% shmorange!
tv-commercial tv-commercial
5:31 pm
welcome back to "360." we're talking trump v.p. picks
5:32 pm
right now. the washington post reporting that house speaker newt gingrich has the edge over governor chris christie perhaps as of now. today on the nh-1's paul steinhauser did his best to try to pry more information out of the presumptive nominee on this topic. >> we're in new hampshire, scott brown and chris christie, both well known, are they on your short list? >> they're both good guys. i wouldn't say short list and they're good people. scott was an early supporter and there are certainly people i want involved. >> he could be a politician when he wants to be. >> we talked before the break about scott brown and we're back with the panel and joining the conversation and national political reporter for "the new york times" who today wrote a piece about the growing influence within the trump orbit. welcome. what do you make of the reporting from the washington post that gingrich and christie seem to be leading the pack for a v.p. slot and your piece
5:33 pm
talked about how governor christie's influence was growing in the campaign. i don't know if he's going to end up as the vice presidential pick or even as you've suggested, chief of staff. >> jake, we reported in our story earlier today that christie was being vetted for the rice presidency, but as you say, the real story as far as christie specifically is concerned is his growing influence over trump and over his potential administration, really irrespective of whether he gets that v.p. role and there are people in the veep stakes and members of the senate and members of the house whose irrelevance to trump will rise or fall based on whether they're his running mate. christie is running his transition and he's installed his own loyalists to basically design the federal government or what it would look like in a trump administration and he's really emerged as the essential person from within the republican establishment who is out there making the sale for trump to donors and to other office holders and to folks who could potentially serve in a
5:34 pm
trump cabinet. >> very interesting. donald trump bringing onboard the communications director who worked on the cruz campaign. i think the person who did social media for the rand paul campaign and he's trying to draw lots of people from lots of different campaigns. ryan, you just heard in jim acosta's piece that trump was hammering his primary opponents for not supporting him. he has a point. >> he does have the point. they did all sign that pledge, right? >> right. >> reince priebus the head of the rnc made them sign a pledge that you would support the nominee and when each of those men and women knew that that if donald trump was the nominee they were saying they would support him. i think it shows the level of resistance and the divisions within the republican party, despite that, even despite that trump has won more votes than any republican presidential primary candidate in history that they still won't get behind him and what are they thinking? they're thinking if he goes down
5:35 pm
and hillary's president the day after the election do they want to have been a trump supporter when he leaves the scene, is it the bet now to be on his side or not? and i think the bet that they're making is he's not going to win and so they don't want to be -- they don't want to have been seen in 2016 as being a die-hard trump supporter if he loses. >> donna, jeffrey and i were talking during the break about what i think is one of the most interesting stories about the political year and you'll probably agree is donald trump's attempt to redraw the map, the electoral map, and i'm sure he's not giving up on states where there's a large latino population like colorado and new mexico, but focusing his energy on states where there is a white working class, pennsylvania, ohio and michigan. wisconsin, does that worry you as a democrat? >> no. >> not eaven a little bit? >> jake, look at this face.
5:36 pm
is this a woman who worries? i have gray hair and i'm not wrinkled yet. let me tell you why i don't worry. these states are wonning by two or three presidential points, and that's a given. donald trump has done a lot of damage not to just his brand, but to the republican brand and the fact is when you go back and look at the primary campaign he really didn't bring a lot of new people. he was able to energize a lot of republicans who failed to support mitt romney, but he didn't really bring a lot of new people so because of that i don't worry. i do believe that hillary clinton will have an opportunity to exploit some of the weaknesses of donald trump's candidacy and next week the president will be campaigning with hillary clinton in north carolina and the vice president and jeffrey, the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. so i think this is an opportunity for democrats to expand and not republicans. >> jeff, stick with me because i know you'll have a lot to say in this next segment. the tete-a-tete on the tarmac,
5:37 pm
the private chat that he had with loretta lynch in phoenix. stay with us. nexium 24 hour introduces new, easy-to-swallow tablets. so now, there are more ways, for more people... to experience... complete protection from frequent heartburn. nexium 24hr. the easy-to-swallow tablet is here. for hillary, it's always been about kids. it's in the quiet moments when you see why she does this. and when millions couldn't get health care, this first lady
5:38 pm
worked with republicans and democrats to fix it. creating the children's health insurance program, so that every child gets the health care that child deserves to have. now eight million kids are covered. that's the kind of leader she is. and the kind of president she'll be. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. overwhelming and complicated. that's why at cancer treatment centers of america every patient gets their own care manager to coordinate every aspect of their care. the care manager is making sure everything is flowing well so the patient can continue to get their treatment. we are the link between the patient and the doctor. the care manager coordinates all of the patient's appointments, scans, chemotherapy...
5:39 pm
we can do paperwork or contact their employers or set them up with home health. that's what brings most people into nursing; you get to connect with people. that's what i love about being a care manager. meet the care managers at ctca. my name is collette... lindsey jodi stacy our nurse care managers are with you every step of the way so you can focus on your fight. cancer is a long journey and i want to do everything in my power to take the stress off of your shoulders so you can enjoy your life at home. learn more at appointments available now.
5:40 pm
5:41 pm
those are the words of the conservative good government reform group judicial watch launching a complaint this evening with the justice department inspector general. the group's issue, a meeting between former president bill clinton and attorney general loretta lynch who just happens to be overseeing the investigation into the private email server of mr. clinton's wife, the presumptive democratic presidential nominee. the meeting appears to violate the violation of law, ethical standards and good judgment. the optics of the meeting just plain stink. more now from cnn's jeff zeleny. >> i did see the president at the phoenix airport the other night. as i was landing, he was headed out. >> attorney general loretta lynch describing details about her meeting with former president bill clinton. >> he did come over and say hello and speak to my husband and myself and talked about his
5:42 pm
grandchildren and his travels and things like that. so that was the extent of that. >> at the phoenix airport monday night the former president saw lynch's plane on the tarmac. he climbed aboard taking lynch by surprise, a law enforcement official told cnn, they talked privately for about 30 minutes. >> no discussions were held in any cases or anything of that, and he didn't raise anything about that either. >> both sides say it was a chance meeting, a coincidence, but critics are calling it a conflict. considering lynch is overseeing the ongoing investigation into hillary clinton's private email server. the encounter gives fresh ammunition to those who have called for a special prosecutor. spectac spectacle, the justice department can be objective. it lit up conservative talk radio today with donald trump leading the charge. >> you see a thing like this and even in terms of judgment, how bad a judgement is it for him or for her to do this? i mean, who would do this? >> reporter: the attorney general denied the probe had been politicized? it's being handled by career
5:43 pm
investigators and career agents who always follow the facts and the law. >> reporter: the white house said today it wouldn't second guess the private meeting and defended lynch. >> the president's view is that this is an investigation that should be conducted free of any sort of political interference and the attorney general has indicated that that's exactly her expectation, as well. >> reporter: yet it raises questions why lynch would put herself in this position, given questions she's faced about the investigation. >> have you ever discussed the clinton email investigation with president obama or anyone at the white house? >> no, sir, i have not. >> okay. do you anticipate that happening? >> no, sir, i do not. >> reporter: it's a new headache for clinton who is off the campaign trail today at home in chappaqua. the email controversy is still weighing on her candidacy as she waits to be interviewed by the fbi. jeff zeleny, cnn, washington. >> and as you might imagine the
5:44 pm
panelists have plenty to say about this. joining the conversation carl bernstein, author of the woman in charge hillary rodham clinton, hillary clinton herself just acknowledged that she has a trust deficit among many, many voters, especially independents and there are a lot of voters out there who think say, she's not trustworthy and the clintons don't think the rules apply to them and -- boom, this story! >> this plays right into trump's hand, but the terrible thing is the incredible lapse in judgment by both the attorney general and bill clinton. it's inexplicable, it's wrong. it's improper and she needs the attorney general to now recuse herself from overseeing this investigation and turn it over to the deputy attorney general in charge of the criminal division. it's unthinkable that she can go on being in charge of this investigation. >> wow! so a call from carl bernstein,
5:45 pm
donna, for the attorney general to recuse herself, and let me point out, in the past where there have been politically charged investigations. first of all, john ashcroft recused himself from the investigation about who leaked valerie plame, the former covert officer and both senators obama and clinton called for gonzalez to recuse himself during the investigation into jack abramoff. should loretta lynch recuse herself? >> no, and i think all of this great, sensational coverage today is because we have nothing else to talk about. donald trump has not insulted anyone in the last few hours and this is a big story. look, basically, bill clinton is at the same airport, the same time with the attorney general. anyone who knows bill clinton knows that if he walks into a room or walks on the tarmac and sees someone he's going to say hello. that's the nature of this southern gentlemen. >> this was a 30-minute conversation.
5:46 pm
>> you know what? have you talked to bill clinton lately about his grandchildren? it is a 30-minute conversation. he's in love with them. god knows they're beautiful. i don't see anything nefarious happening. by the way, they had mrs. lynch had her fbi agents who, i guess, whoever the agents are, the law enforcement agents who travel with her. the president has secret service, it wasn't like this was a close encounter of the third kind. her husband was also there and they also talked about a personal friend. it wasn't mrs. clinton. they talked about the former attorney general janet reno. i don't see anything nefarious, but again, this is a big talking point on a night when we like to talk. >> i don't think it's about that. we have democrats like david axelrod and senator chris kuntz talking about the optics of it all. >> we have millions of democrats. >> i'm sure he has thoughts. >> they've lost carl bernstein, then they've lost america -- >> one second, carl. >> look. one of the first things i
5:47 pm
thought of, interestingly enough to me at least with brexit, what was the whole brexit business? it was about elites versus the regular people of great britain. this whole business here just reeks of elitism. i can come over to the plane and have a talk. you would think that the most average district attorney and anywhere in america would have the sense not to do this. i'm not -- >> get to the policy and take off? i mean, he walked on the plane. >> i'm not a lawyer, but i'm saying to you, as my democratic friends like to say so many times, the appearance of improp right riety is huge. is huge. >> the important thing here is that something like this shouldn't happen, that among other things bill clinton, the clinton foundation may be part of this investigation. the clintons have made immense
5:48 pm
contributions to american life. i don't believe that they are venal people, but they are out of touch on things like this and particularly this trust issue, and the most awful thing that could happen to the democrats, it would seem to me, would be to see a neo-fascist, donald trump elected president of the united states with all of the dangers attended to that partly because hillary clinton can't get over this server problem, can't be straightforward about it and now her husband is not sensitive enough to understand the implications and playing into the hands of the clintons' vast, right-wing conspiracy enemies and they have just handed a great gift to the republicans and to donald trump. >> they have, indeed. >> and donna, with all due respect -- >> be careful. >> this is not just by the press. just not the press. >> ryan, very quickly, if you can. >> your thoughts on this. this does play into the hands. >> she has two big hurdles to
5:49 pm
get over in this campaign. she's up by seven points and she got past ben gassy and she has one big cloud hanging over this, and that's the investigation. bill clinton goes and hangs out? >> it wasn't an appointment or meeting -- >> thanks, everyone! grief and anger in turkey amid funerals for dozens killed in the istanbul terror attack. for each family the loss is unimaginable. one family lost three young women, sisters and their even younger niece. the surviving members of their family havae a message for the terrorists. meet that family next. the captivating lexus rc,
5:50 pm
with available 306 horsepower. this is the pursuit of perfection. of many pieces in my i havlife.hma... so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine. i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. breo won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours. breo contains a type of medicine that increases the risk of death from asthma problems and may increase the risk of hospitalization in children and adolescents. breo is not for people whose asthma is well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. once your asthma is well controlled, your doctor will decide if you can stop breo and prescribe a different asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. do not take breo more than prescribed. see your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. ask your doctor if 24-hour breo
5:51 pm
could be a missing piece for you. see if you're eligible for 12 months free at mr. brady, we've been expecting you. will you be needing anything else?
5:52 pm
not a thing. beautyrest black. get your beautyrest. i don't want to lie down. beautyrest black. i refuse to lie down. why suffer? stand up to chronic migraine... with botox®. botox® is the only treatment for chronic migraine shown to actually prevent headaches and migraines before they even start. botox® is for adults with chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month each lasting 4 hours or more. it's injected by a doctor once every 12 weeks. and is covered by most insurance. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. don't take botox® if there's a skin infection. tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. don't take your chronic migraine lying down.
5:53 pm
stand up. prevent headaches and migraines. talk to a headache specialist today. with the process of burying loved ones under way in the wake of the turkey terror attack, tonight we bring i one family's story. three young sisters and their niece killed in the attack. a family decimated. like dozens of other people at that airport, they are now left with only their grief and anger. matt rivers reports. >> reporter: a father in mourning stands watch over his daughter's casket. a gentle hand laid on top. she was just 8 years old, the light of his life, killed in the airport attacks. >> she was very lovely. >> reporter: very lovely. >> lovely.
5:54 pm
>> reporter: killed alongside her were three of her aunts, all sisters. a 24-year-old, a 16-year-old, and a 14-year-old. all of them had just arrived in istanbul to visit family. abdul was the father to the sisters and the 8-year-old's grandfather. i'm heartbroken, he says. we are so powerless and helpless against these terrorists. he was outside the terminal with his family waiting for a taxi. he didn't see the explosion, only its aftermath. i was five meters away from my girls, he says, so i ran over. one was already dead. i took the other three to the hospital. they died, too. two of his other daughters and his wife were injured, but survived. they are all still in the
5:55 pm
hospital, unable to join the scores that came to a local mosque for the funeral. under a bright thursday sun. funerals like this one have been happening across the city both yesterday and today. it is the muslim tradition to bury victims as soon as possible. of course, there are friends and family here but the majority of people here are just locals, people who worship at this mosque, here to pay their respects after an attack that hurt this whole city, the whole country. there's so much sadness here but there's anger, too, at those who would steal such innocence. may god damn the terrorists, said the girls' uncle. it's not one or two or three, but four good young people. why are they getting killed? on a small hill near the mosque, the three sisters and little houda were carried to their grave sites. her father, mohammed, led the
5:56 pm
way. a final act of love from a dad to a daughter. >> matt rivers joins me now from istanbul. i have an 8-year-old daughter. this is just heartbreaking. i cannot imagine what these families are going through. >> reporter: jake, when you talk to the dad of that daughter as we did before the funeral, you felt his pain and one thing that i saw, he kept his hand on top of his daughter's casket which we were standing next to the entire interview. it felt so paternal and instinctual. i don't even know if he knew what he was doing but that coupled with what you saw in his eyes and the pain in his face, you really felt what this man and his family are going through. >> powerful report. thank you so much. we'll be right back.
5:57 pm
♪ it's here, but it's going by fast. the opportunity of the year is back: the mercedes-benz summer event. get to your dealer today for incredible once-a-season offers, and start firing up those grilles. lease the e350 for $499 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. don't bring that mess around here, evan! whoo! don't do it.
5:58 pm
don't you dare. i don't think so! [ sighs ] it's okay, big fella. we're gonna get through this together. [ baseball bat cracks ] nice rip, robbie. ♪ raaah! when you bundle home and auto insurance through progressive, you get more than just a big discount. i'm gonna need you to leave. you get relentless protection. [ baseball bat cracks ] you get relentless protection. so guys with ed can... take viagra when they need it. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension. your blood pressure could drop to an unsafe level. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor about viagra single packs.
5:59 pm
6:00 pm
thanks for watching. the cnn original series "the iegties" starts now. we have intelligent machines creeping into our daily lives. it's going to be a new world out there. >> the popularity of these video games is nothing short of a social phenomenon. >> personal computers, walk-around stereos, automatic cameras, me