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hillary clinton spends the day on the campaign trail bashing donald trump, but it's what she doesn't say that's got a lot of people hot under the collar. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. attorney general loretta lynch declining to press charges. when will clinton speak out? what will fbi james comey say tomorrow on capitol hill? meanwhile donald trump doubles down, selling a crowd in cincinnati that saddam hussein was good at killing terrorists.
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why are so many people outraged about it now? we're going to talk to a man who says that outrage comes straight from the clinton campaign. and remember this, you'll hear trump's explanation for this clinton bashing tweet. let's get right to cnn's sunlen serfa serfaty. we heard a vintage donald trump this evening. what is he saying? >> he said a little bit of everything. this was somewhat of a stream of consciousness. this is exactly the sort of off-the-cuff and speech that gives republicans still so much heartburn about donald trump. he covered the gamut of so many topics, but there was a lighter moment, an odd moment when a mosquito flew in front of him. >> the democrats -- ooh, there was a mosquito. i don't want mosquitos around me.
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i don't like mosquitos. i don't like those mosquitos, i never did. okay, speaking of mosquitoes, hello, hillary, how are you doing? certainly an impromptu moment for donald trump, waste nothing opportunity to turn it into a moment about hillary clinton. >> did hillary clinton react to it tonight? >> her twitter account tweeted out, quote, newly discovered footage that could destroy donald trump's campaign if everyone saw it, and it was a link to a live stream of donald trump's speech as he was continuing to speak. this is so unheard of to see one opponent tweeting out a link to a speech telling people to tune in to another, their rival's speech, so unheard of, clearly the clinton campaign thinks that did him a load of harm tonight. >> and trump also reacted to the
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attorney general's announcement that hillary clinton will not face charges. what did he say? >> this is just giving him fresh political fodder, of course that he wasted no time bringing up at multiple times during his speech, laying down into hillary clinton, calling her crooked hillary, bringing up the impromptu meeting bill clinton had last week with loretta lynch. he did bring up speculation that hillary clinton could keep loretta lynch as attorney general if she were elected president. here's what he had to say. >> the attorney general comes out and the attorney general says no charges! that's bribery, wouldn't you say? that's bribery. you're not supposed -- she said she's going to reappoint the attorney general and the attorney general is waiting to make a determination as to whether or not she's guilty and, boy, was that a fast determination. wow. could have waited at least a little bit longer.
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doesn't just come out with one or two sentences. talk about it a little bit. >> so trump really bringing out a big and fully loaded word there, bribery, tonight, making clear that he is going to continue to lay into hillary clinton on this. i should note that donald trump will be up on capitol hill tomorrow meeting with republicans and the fbi director james comey will also be there. he will be testifying before the house oversight committee. don? >> and miles to go before november. we've got a long ways. thank you, sunlen. appreciate that. >> i want to bring in dave wiegle, political reporter for "the washington post" and bakari sellers. bakari, your reaction to the attorney general saying hillary clinton won't face any charges? >> i think the process had to run its course. you had the investigation by the fbi. that is the investigative body. it turns its investigation over to the prosecutorial agency and
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loretta lynch made her decision. i heard you and many others questioning, when was she going to speak. well, there was not much to say until the attorney general actually rendered her decision. so i expect that she will actually address these issues and many more in the near future. >> do you want to talk about this, dave, or can we move on and talk trump? >> well, i think it was a mistake for the house oversight committee to invite comey on such short notice. if they had fours weeks to prepare a grilling for this guy, maybe they'd be prepared. i think they're acting out a disbelief they didn't get an indictment out of this and i don't think that's going to end well for them. >> you think they're overplaying their hand? >> they're trying to discredit in the way you saw trump discredit the decision he made. there is a way to do that. i don't think getting lectured to or answered definitively by him on live tv tomorrow could be the way to do it. they could surprise but it hasn't gone well for them in the
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past on benghazi. when is the last time you saw the house oversight committee nail the landing on something look this? >> that's a good point. donald trump tried to clarify something he said last night about saddam hussein. here he is. >> i wake up, i turn on the television, "donald trump loves saddam hussein." and i was just asked a question by the cincinnati inquirer inside. mr. trump, is it true that you love saddam hussein? essentially, like sort of that. i said that's not what i said. that's not what i said. so that's the narrative that goes around. so i said bad guy, really bad guy but he was good at one thing, he killed terrorists. next day donald trump loves saddam hussein. i don't love saddam hussein. i hate saddam hussein but he was damn good at killing terrorists. >> so actually what he said yesterday was saddam hussein was
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good at killing terrorists. no one said that donald trump loves saddam hussein. so playing to the crowd there, wasn't exactly the truth. dave, what's your reaction? because your latest article focuses on how the media reacted to trump praising saddam hussein for killing terrorists, even though is wasn't the first time he made these comments. >> he's been saying this since late last year. i've seen jake tapper ask him several times, do you have really mean this? yes, he said it in front of jeb bush, he said it where bush was watching, this is a comment he made knowing that the electorate, the republican electorate wants to relitigate the iraq war and regretting the way we went in the way we did. saddam hussein was aiding palestinian terror groups in the time we're talking about, he was killing rebels in his own country, who were not exactly or
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at all the people he wants to think were attacking us. so it's not completely coherent. the way it turned into a campaign issue, this is what he thinks is a potent way to go after hillary clinton, who supported the iraq war, was a driving force in the libya -- >> what he's doing, dave, is he's blaming the media. up said it's a good way to go after hillary clinton. but he's going after the media instead. is that a good strategy? shouldn't he be seizing on, as dave said, hillary clinton rather than the media? >> well, i'm not -- i think dave is actually the best follow on twitter, but i'm not quite sure where he's going with this narrative. >> high praise, thank you. >> the fact is that donald trump was actually in favor of invading and going in the iraq war before he was against it. so that has to be stated first. >> hey, bakari, before you fi
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fini finish, i think this is important. we just heard donald trump saying the media said i love saddam hussein, i love saddam hussein. let me play it and i'll let you finish it. >> saddam hussein was a bad guy, right? he was a bad guy, really bad guy. but you know what he did well? he killed terrorists. he did that so good. they didn't read him the right, they didn't talk, they were a terrorist, it was over. >> bakari, continue. that's what he said. >> well, first, donald trump was for the iraq war before he was against it. second, donald trump didn't kill terrorists. donald trump killed -- >> excuse me -- >> excuse me, saddam hussein sent missiles into iraq and we just found out from recent tapes that donald trump even stated to some of his underlings, before he met his demise that he would
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send chemical weapons into israel. >> saddam hussein. >> saddam hussein. i keep giving this to donald trump. i'm sorry. so those things are all facts. and the last thing we have to point out about this whole thing is that it just fits into this narrative. this isn't a narrative that hillary clinton somehow dug up. this is a narrative that it's a general election campaign. this is not donald trump debating rick santorum. this is the general election campaign. so, yes, people are paying attention to it and saddam hussein is not someone you need to be praising at any point. >> dave, it's not just the media reacting, though. speak are rer ryan distanced hi saying that saddam hussein was one of the most evil people of the 20th century. >> i think as bakari pointed out, he flipped. he was for the iraq war, he decided it was more politically advantageous to be anti-war as soon as he became a candidate. i think the clinton campaign has
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vulnerabilities. i talked to -- on this issue in particular, some of them said to me it is a bit of a flip, a role reversal that the democrats have a candidate who voted for interventions that are not very popular right now. people are very good at justifying things. they weren't necessarily panicking about what trump said just because the narrative last night and just because the clinton campaign went into attack mode about it. when trump blames the media, it's amazing it's still potent but it remains potent. that's why he's so drunk on this kind of rhetoric. those crowd respond i think honestly into thinking anything that we say about him that makes him look bad, it's our fault, not his. >> but does that remain potent for the people who already, you know, are his supporters, for the people he needs, the independents and the people who
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may be on the fence, does that really play? because it seems so obvious that it sort of, you know, bait and switch, bakari? >> i mean, it is bait and switch because they went down this path of talking about some of donald trump's foreign policy, which is very, very shallow. i say it all the time. i mean, i hope they literally have a map at the foreign policy debate because i'm not sure he knows where libya is or where iraq is actually on the map. but the fact is that donald trump was actually in favor of the libya intervention before he was against it. just like he was in favor of iraq before he was against it. i mean, he's flip flopped so many different times. what the media is doing, they're just shining a light on it. and even more importantly, you can't change the fact that this is a new playing field. this is no longer 16 or 17 candidates talking about little hands and talking about all of these other things. these are the two heavyweights we have that are running for president of the united states. so, yes, there's a new light
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that's being shown on it. and if donald trump wants to hammer on hillary's e-mails and hillary's e-mails, that's one strategy. if he wants to continue to get off message like he has the last two nights and squander those opportunities, then he have too deal with the ramifications there of. >> coming up, we'll talk about donald trump accusing hillary of bribery coming up next. ♪
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donald trump speaking to a
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cheering crowd in cincinnati tonight and taking every chance to hammer hillary clinton. here to discuss now is alan dershowitz, the author of "taking a stand, my life and the law" and mr. david gergen, a powerhouse here. >> and my former student. >> i deferred to him -- >> i take credit for everything he does. >> this is wa was said by donald trump. >> and hillary then says i think i'll reappoint the attorney general. and you're waiting for a decision by the attorney general and you're saying heuyou're goi to give her a job. you're not allowed to do that. that's bribery, folks. >> alan, she hasn't said she was
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going to appoint loretta lynch as attorney general. >> if she has said that she was going to appoint loretta lynch as attorney general, that would be a problem. but she didn't say that. every day in every part of the united states, people do acts that could be charged as crimes. our criminal laws are so accordion like and elastic and discretion is always exercised. this is a case where any responsible prosecutor, as comey said, would have decided not to prosecutor. the real question is whether comey should have gone further and made the statement he made and talked about all the other things. also whether he should be the one making the decision whether to prosecute. imagine if he were not the head of the fbi but a guy named j. edgar hoover. would we want him to be the investigator, the person who
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applies the law and the person who uses the discretion. >> are you going to agree or disagree with the distinguished professor here? >> i agree and disagree. >> you agree and disagree. >> how so? >> on the issue of donald trump and the charge of bribery, i think that's ill founded and outrageous because there is no evidence. and i agree absolutely with alan. had she promised loretta lynch the job while this was under way, that would have been askant. but i want to go back to the or poi -- other point and that is -- alan wrote a very interesting blog as whether james comey as fbi director played too abnormal a role and broke press didn't a -- precedent and wrote whether the fbi director should be deciding what kind of charge should be brought. i would just remind it doesn't happen always and certainly
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doesn't happen publicly. but in the petraeus case the fbi made a recommendation to independent prosecutors that he be charged with a felony and then attorney general eric holder stepped in and said, no, we're going to make this a misdemeanor. so it is not unprecedented that the fbi will make a recommendation privately. >> you said to me last night that these are two different cases. >> very different cases. >> the circumstances are different. >> david makes a good point that there is that precedent. in this case lynch had already announced she wouldn't overrule the judgment of the head of the fbi. >> so meeting on the airplane with the former president. >> we don't know if there's a causal relationship there, presumably there is. but it is the fbi's judgment that is the final judgment. >> i think loretta lynch said i
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was i'm going to go with the recommendation of the fbi and the independent prosecutors at the justice department. so i wondered do you think she went a little early? because the independent prosecutors had almost no time to review the evidence. >> and normally the decision is made realistically by the head of the criminal division at the justice department, who is usually a career prosecutor, very distinguished, very respected. >> do you think that person had sufficient time? >> to jump in here, hadn't they been seeing the evidence and -- >> that's what the fbi had said. he said nobody knows in the justice department what i'm going to say today. there must have been some sharing of information obviously, but there's some belief that maybe the whole justice department recused itself. that would be really unprecedented. that goes back to the saturday night massacre. >> i want to play the speaker of the house today, his opinion on what happened. here he is. >> i was on the ticket in 2012.
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after the convention, you get the full declassified information as part of transition, as part of being a nominee. i think the dni, clapper, should deny hillary clinton access to classified information during this campaign given how she so recklessly handled classified information. >> go, mr. dershowitz, what do you think? >> one thing is clear, she will never again be careless in the way she handles classified information. so if you're worried about the future, there is no one safer than hillary clinton today. >> is that a grasp? >> what do you mean by a grasp? >> we have to find something that sticks? >> i do. i think it's -- they're trying to make up some argument she pay some penalty here. but i think it's in the country's interest that both nominees get regular briefings.
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the world is incredibly complex. they come in and do verbal briefings. >> you've worked for how many administrations? >> since grover cleveland. >> yeah, right. >> so we'll say since washington. it's a joke. go ahead. >> how many administrations? >> four. >> what would you advise republicans to do on this? >> i think the republicans would be wise to have donald trump come down on the stump and leave it to the committees to do their work and keep the focus on hillary clinton and make sure that before this is over she anan answers questions in a responsible forum, whether in front of journalists or congress. i don't think she can leave it here. >> stay with us. when we come back, we're going to continue this conversation. don't go anywhere. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise,
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case closed, at least that's what the attorney general loretta lynch announced, that hillary clinton will not face charges on using her personal server for e-mail.
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and fbi director comey tomorrow will meet with the folks on capitol hill. he talked about the investigation. he said no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. walk us through why that is important, alan? >> it's important that prosecutors exercise discretion all the time. a friend of mine wrote a book called "three felonies a day" which shows that the average american commits crime if you use the broadest explanation. you have to be sensible. when you have somebody who didn't lie to the fbi, when you have somebody who was, yes, very careless, but someone who was a patriot and someone who didn't intend to do any harm, normally won't bring that kind of case, especially when she's running for president of the united states. we don't want prosecutors to determine who our next president is. so you defer. >> there's this idea about lying
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and not lying but then there was the question of what's classified or not classified? is it something that had the big classified stamp on it or did it just have classified information in it? >> i think we're going to hear more about that as we hear james comey and mrs. clinton. she has consistently said i never sent or received an e-mail marked classified. the comey investigation showed there were 110 e-mails she did receive that con it and classified information but they weren't classified. there were only two e-mails that were marked as classified. so the question is, it sounds like hair splitting to a lot of people but is she hanging her case on the word marked, whether they were actually marked or not.
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>> he went on to say any reasonable person, anyone in that position would have known, should have known this information contained classified. >> that's not usually a basis for criminal charges. he did parse his language very carefully. he said they bore markings of classification. that's a little different than they were marked classified. i hope tomorrow we will actually see those documents, not the content, but just the meta data, that is what it marked classified or does it have indicia that it is classified inside the text? >> i agree with that and i think it would be very, very helpful to see it. there is the additional argument that comey would make, and it comes right out of the laws that you taught me, is that you are charged with understanding or having a knowledge, constructive knowledge of what you -- if you're the secretary of state and you see something about drones, you know by its very nature it's classified. you don't have to have a big
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stamp on it. >> so did he stop just short yesterday of calling her a liar? >> yes. yes. >> go ahead, david. he did stop just short of calling her -- i think he walked -- i think his view was that she walked up to the edge of the line and didn't go over and that's why he's not prosecuting. >> was that a political decision? because people are saying it was political. >> no, i don't think it was a political decision. i think they fought long and hard about it. i come into this biased. i think james comey is a straight shooter, he's one of the most honest men in washington. >> i agree completely. completely. there's a big difference between lying, which is a big political issue -- >> do you think he stopped just short of calling her a liar? >> yes. >> a form of perjury is if you lie to the fbi or to the justice department. and he said quite clearly she did not try to cover up.
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>> so he's going to be testifying on capitol hill hi tomorrow, comey. what do you think we're going to hear? is this going to be a political drubbing of james comey? z >> it's worth remembering comey testified in 2007 in a case that got quite a lot of attention and he superb and everybody looked at him, my goodness, we didn't know how well he was. >> and the republicans wouldn't be well prepared for this. they didn't take the time they need to go up against somebody as brilliant as comey. >> why rush? >> because they want to make sure this is today's news. >> they want to do this before the convention. i think everybody got rushed by convention dates, including the fbi. >> so loretta lynch, the a.g., said today that it's over, she's not going to charge.
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is there any way that hillary clinton can be charged with something? >> only if some new information comes up. on the basis of the current record, she will not be charged. >> it's over legally unless something else happens. >> i want to ask alan a question. >> yes, sir. but they're telling me to tease. go ahead. >> the statute said you can be charged if you act with gross negligence. and comey says she was extremely careless and therefore not karjing hkar charging her. to the lay audience, there's not a difference. >> i agree with you. and that's why you need a sensible prosecutor to look at the totality of the evidence and make a decision. did she have the hamlet moment to commit a felony or not to commit a felony, that is the question and i think he was right to say she never had that moment. >> and, ladies and gentlemen,
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you have just seen a legal class by alan dershowitz. i could go on longer but i have to go. thank you, i appreciate it. >> up next, donald trump is not backing down, defending his six-pointed star tweet. wait till you hear how he explains it. chance to take the dna test through ancestry. and my results ended up being african, european and asian. it just confirmed what i guess people had seen in me all my life. i do feel like ancestry helped give me a sense of identity. "what are you?" now i know. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at
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tonight donald trump not backing down his defending of controversial tweets sent out by his campaign. here to cuss, kevin madden, hilary rosen and jason osbourne, a former senior communication strategist for ben carson's campaign. kevin madden, you first. trump gave quite an interesting speech earlier in cincinnati and he spoke about the jewish star controversy. let listen. >> so we have unbelievably dishonest media. so i have the star, which was fine. i should you shouldn't have taken it down. they took the star down. i said too bad. i would have rather defended it and said, no, that's not a star of david. it's just a star. and it's also about corrupt hillary. she sent it out. she's the one that started the dialogue. >> okay.
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kevin, what do you think of that moment? >> well, look, i think this is day three of hawking about a tweet and i think when you are 11 days away from your convention and you're 100-plus days away from the general election, you shouldn't be sitting on stage in a battleground state like ohio that right knew if you look at the polls are dead locked talking about a tweet, relitigating what was in that tweet. instead you should be talking about the issues and anxieties that people have about the economy, about national security. donald trump spends way too much time, in my opinion, talking about himself and relitigating some of these grievances he has with the media, which don't really speak to a lot of the anxieties and the anger that a lot of folks have about other things that really matter to them. that's one of the big problems with this as far as a tactical message and a strategy for the trump campaign. >> kevin, you are a republican, a conservative, right? you're not a hillary clinton supporter, right?
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>> that's right. >> i'm saying that because all of people who if you point that out as a journalist, you say you're supporting hillary clinton, you say, no, i'm just pointing out the obvious that donald trump had a real opportunity to hit hillary clinton on the fbi and instead he is continuing to talk about a tweet and forcing news outlets to discuss and have this conversation as kevin madden, a conservative republican just said. >> i'm a conservative republican who wants to see conservative republicans policies advance in this country. one of the things i owe it to the viewers is to offer a clinical assessment of how some of those efforts are potentially held back by a candidate who focuses on things like tweets and what's in a tweet and then grievances they have with the media. look, media bias is a fact. i actually believe that as well, but it is not a compelling message to a family in columbus, ohio right now that is struggling to pay their bills or
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worried about their mortgage, worried about other issues like higher education, the cost of higher education and the cost of health care. that's the central part of what the message should be when you're the nominee of a major presidential party, when you're a presidential nominee and you're trying to make your case for the general election. >> so he's in a battleground state, right? >> right. >> tonight, jason. he's in a battleground state. he's got the mic, he's got the podium. he can take it in any direction he wants to take it. instead he took it in that direction. what do you think of that? what do you think of what kevin said? >> well, i understand what kevin's saying and, you know, i tend to agree with him on some of that actually. i think we are spending too much time talking about things that are overblown in my view from the tweet. it's -- there was no intent, i don't think he's that kind of person. he does need to start talking and hitting hillary a little bit more on what's happened over the
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last two days. but at the same time i do think, you know, that was one part of a very long rally today in ohio where he touched on a number of different things. and i think one thing that i certainly saw working for dr. carson was the way that he is speaking and talking about these issues is the way that people are communicating them to the candidates in person in these states. so i think he is demonstrating, look, you're going to hear a lot of attacks about me, he's not the traditional politician that's going to speak in a set pattern that we're so used to over the last, you know, 200 years. >> jason, all right, look, i don't want to be so negative but -- >> that's okay, go ahead. >> so let's just do the comparison here. when you look at hillary clinton today, she's out there, she's on
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message, she's hitting donald trump one thing after the other, after the other on his business policy, she's very focused. and then you have to come on and you have to say every time he's not a traditional politician. instead of saying, well, he hit her on this, he did that. he wasn't focused. tonight his speech was rambling. he talked about so many things that there isn't one thing that you can focus on to -- you can take hillary clinton's speech today and do a complete assessment and say here is where she hit donald trump. if you take donald trump today, you cannot say here is where donald trump hit hillary clinton. there are 25 things that he discussed tonight and i'm not sure that people who are watching who may have been interested in his message may have not got i don't know anything out of it. >> but why is this a surprise? i mean, this has been going on for over a year now and he was actually when it came down to the -- >> you're not making a case for your candidate when you say why is this a surprise? >> but you're acting surprised
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that he is not as polished as a hillary clinton -- >> i'm not acting surprised. what i'm saying to you is is that if everyone is saying, people like kevin, people who are in the party, people like the speaker of the house who are saying he needs to pivot and be more focused and be a more disciplined candidate, why is that not happening? so to make a long story short, his message did not appear to be disciplined today. >> but disciplined for folks that are used to disciplined candidates. i mean, this is a guy that won more votes than any other candidates in the republican primary system ever. and he's been successful. >> he's also right now losing to somebody who has historically high unfavorables and has problems with honesty and trustworthiness and he's losing to her. >> i think if you look at any poll, they're all within margin of error. i'm sorry? >> what did you say, kevin, at
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the end? >> i'm saying he's losing to somebody who has a dramatically high unfavorability ratings because of his lack of message discipline and lack of focus on some of the issues that are really going to matter and bring him that last persuadable sliver of the electorate he's not reaching. >> so he's missing an opportunity to really take her on and he's missing an opportunity to focus on the issue, as you say, which is why you're here to talk about the issues. that's it. >> so typically when two republicans are fighting over donald trump, i would step back and keep my mouth shut but i'd just offer something on this table, which is that, you know, donald trump is missing something that hillary clinton has, which is a real prescription for progressive growth in this country, for jobs, for infrastructure, for investment in education, and his sort of asymmetric warfare that
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he engages in on an ongoing basis, whether it's an attack here, an attack there, occasionally he lands punches and all the republicans say, yay, yay, that's the donald trump we want, the one who really hits hillary hard. but really i think what voters are looking forgets back a little bit to what kevin said, which is voters actually like the fact that hillary clinton has really detailed policy prescriptions. you know, the fact that she's kind of wonky on the stump doesn't hurt her, it means she's extremely focused on those policies and when she does hit donald trump, she doesn't do the personal kind of attacks the way that he does, calling him a liar and crooked and all that stuff or for his 450 lawsuits that are pending against him. >> she does hit him hard. she's been hitting him hard lately. come on. >> but she hits him on substance. he bankrupted four companies and put hundreds of people out of work and small businesses didn't
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okay. hillary clinton hitting donald trump on his business dealings in atlantic city. back with me, kevin madden, hilary rosen and jason osborne. to your point you were saying before the break, she was speaking in front of an abandoned remains of a trump plaza hotel and casino in atlantic city, new jersey. she took trum teep task over his past business -- trump task over his past business dealings. >> when this casino collapsed because of how badly he managed it, hundreds of people lost their jobs. shareholders were wiped out. lenders lost money. contractors, many of them small businesses, took heavy losses and many themselves went bust. but donald trump? he walked away with millions. that says everything you need to know about donald trump. it is not about what he can build. it is about how much he can take. >> okay, so jason, help me help
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you here. this is a singular message today. a focus on donald trump's business dealings whether she is right or wrong. i'm not saying she is right or wrong on that. >> it is fact based. >> we'll get to that. >> but that is her strategy. one single message in the speech today. people can absorb it, they get it and then they digest it and they make itself what they will. do you understand that? >> of course i understand, don. to your point, i think what you're trying to say is donald trump is a rambling guy that doesn't have a clue what he is doing. >> that is not what i'm saying. i'm saying what republicans have been saying. i'm only saying that because republicans say they want him to be disciplined, focused, pivot to make the strategy. i'm not making a decision on donald trump. >> the idea that donald trump is going to be this polished politician is exactly why he you
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know, has been so successful so far is that he is not. he is somebody that actually speaks the kind of language in many cases that a lot of americans speak, certainly 15 million republicans did during the primary season and i think as a campaign consultant, do you want your candidate to highlight one, two, or three issues at one speech? absolutely. at the same time, we've never experienced somebody like this who clearly attracted a vast number of people out there to support him because he understands or talks the way they talk around the kitchen table or the bbq on the weekends. >> kevin, you've been a strategist to the campaign. to a point it has gotten him this far. >> it is not about polish. it is about credibility. one of the things is demolish the credibility that hillary clinton is trying to gain on the economic issues. first of all, you go back to the polling, this goes to the point that hillary was saying before.
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if you ask where they sfand who would do a better job. they're siding with donald trump. why? because hillary clinton doesn't have a level of relatability. you're asking somebody to say they want to lead an economy or relate to the struggles that average people have in today's economy when she hasn't driven a car in this century. those are the type of things donald trump has to exploit. and i think what -- what the hillary clinton campaign is trying to do now is demolish this pipeline to the economic populism that donald trump is a regular guy and it is effective if donald trump doesn't go out there and fight back on these issues and start to drive home the fact that hillary clinton doesn't have some of the right policies or doesn't have the right approach for average working americans who worry about some of the things that they have related to the cost of living, the high tax burden that they pay. that is where they argument has to be focused. not on the tweets, not on running a campaign. on media bias.
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>> you have to admit that would be a successful strategy because especially in the wake of what happened with bill clinton on the airplane, the former president, out of touch. hillary clinton hasn't driven a car, out of touch. you know -- >> i'm sorry. do we think donald trump -- >> whether you agree with it or not. don't you think? >> donald trump analysis for how he integrates peach is his elite palm beach club. come on. do you think he has driven a car in the last 15 years? i think if we go through who is more out of touch on how people live, that is a ridiculous analysis there is no question that the roots of hillary clinton and her middle class roots compared to donald trump being born with his you know, silver spoon. >> why do you think she is losing on some of the issues, on the some of the economic issues. >> i don't think she is losing but i do agree if there is one place where trump will appeal to middle class voters, it is a
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perception that he has some business skills he can bring to the country which is why it is so important for hillary clinton to continue to educate people and her surrogates on the fact that he is actually never been for the little guy. that he has always taken and not given. when he's had an opportunity to bring people up, what he's done is taken his own money and left everyone else high and dry. so those are -- but those are the issues that people care about. >> we'll have to continue this in another show. jason, i wanted to give you the last word. hillary, take your time. we have to go. >> filibuster. democratic filibuster. >> i'll see you right back here tomorrow night. thanks for watching. t... ...think it would work, but it does. it's called always discreet for bladder leaks, the super... ...absorbent core turns liquid to gel. i know i'm wearing it but no one else will. always discreet for bladder leaks. wannwith sodastream®er?
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i'm in for anderson tonight. breaking news, word from attorney general, loretta lynch. no charges for hillary clinton or anyone else. there is a joint clinton bernie sanders possibly for him to endorse her. more on that shortly. we begin with donald trump, fresh from speaking out against hillary clinton, against fdi director james comey. against a system he calls rigged and controversily praising sad yam hus yan and saying he wishes his campaign hadn't taken down a tweet that some saw


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