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tough talk from donald trump. his vision of america. will his speech unite the gop? this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. thank you so much for joining us. it is after hours here t cnn xwril. it's packed and we've got a lot to talk about. trump's unofficial running mate is his daughter, ivanka, swruss a candidate who speaks for an hour and 15 minutes. he speaks on crime, immigration, terror, and hillary clinton. let's get to my political dream
team. everybody is here. are you excited? the cnn grill. look at the cnn grill tonight. it is packed. do you guys know we've been trending on twitter? >> good thing or bad thing. >> it's a good thing. they're saying the cnn grill is lit. the kids are saying lit. andy dean, ryan liz, caylee mcnenny and amanda carpenter. >> at a moment of crisis, attacks on our police and the terrorism of our cities, threat, our very way of life. any politician who does not address this danger is not fit to lead our country.
americans watching this address tonight can see the recent images and the chaos in our communities. many have witnessed this violence personally. some have even been its victims. i have a message for all of you that crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon soon ask very soon come to an end. >> what did you think? >> i thought it was doubling down on the exact same message that helped him become the nominee and that appeals very much to the base of the republican party. the strategists thought that donald trump would move towards or find something new.
i was surprised that there was no policy specifics in the speech. i don't know, maybe someone on this panel can inform me. i don't know a single new policy that donald trump will have to fix crime in this country, to fix immigration besides building a war with or to fix foerp policy. >> you thought it was plat t plattitudes. >> and frankly, crime is not at the top of the list of concerns of the american people. the two big eft issues are economy and terrorism. he talks a lot about crime and the herb. but not much about economics. and frankly, a fairley dark, with negative image, not the shining city on on the hill that we remembered rog ald reagan for. >> and that is what i wanted to ask caylee about.. >> and not the sometimes
charming and fun ny donald trum that his primary speeches often had. >> everyone said they wanted him more presidential and now you're saying he's not that guy any more. >> i didn't say he was presidential tonight. i thought the speech was dark and foreboding. >> caylee, did you think he talked about policy? >> yeah. thankfully, we have numbers after the speech that we can go to. the cnn instant poll said 75% who watched the speech thought it was positive. not only that, 56% said they are more likely to vote for trump after this speech. not only that, 73% said that this would take the country in the right direction, a mirror image opposite of the right direction/wrong direction poll which shows 73% also thinks the country is heading in the wrong direction. >> let me go through these numberes. here it is. overall reaction to trump's speech, 57% positive. somewhat positive was 18%.
negative affect, 24%.. >> i saw that. i mean, look, i wouldn't base my entire political analysis based on one instant poll taken after. >> but middle america has a different view than the elite. >> i want to know what, like, the liberal elite meeting things. ryan lizza is the go-to guy. you couldn't be any more off beat -- >> andy, i'm giving my opinion. >> that's not a personal attack. it feels like the liberal opinion. >> what is the liberal opinion? >> across the networks wsh it's a dark speech. >> i thought it was dark. you thought waits a positive speech? >> i thought it was a very positive speech. >> what did you think was positive about it? >> in the sense that donald trump treats the american people as if they're intelligence, that they can handle serious issues
with serious solutions. >> what is the serious solution he has? >> he was very specific on trade and he said we are going to crack down on chinese intellectual piratesy. we're going to crack down on the currency manipulation. >> that is not specific. that's platitude. >> how is that not specific? what is he specifically going to do? with china, enforce our trade agreements and put people who great them and he was very clear about this. one-on-one negotiation with trade deals as opposed to these gigantic deals where nobody reads them. you're entitled to your opinion. >> there was a lot of content in the speech. >> yeah. a policy where donald trump is -- and a reward to the right.
it's very transactional. but more than that want how the speech played out, anger can be a motivating thing. when he says that i've noticed -- no, but on the other side, anger among the people who a are, you know, people like bakari. earlier this week, he was like, oh, yeah, we're going to take on donald trump. right now, i get the sense they are stone-cold angry. people are going to be very motivated on both sides. we're going to a very bitter place in the general election. >> do you think this is a liberal elite -- >> when he talks about facts, countries having severe issues economically with crime, law enforcement, and when he's being honest, you can see that it's very, very dark. but he presents solutions. >> hang on, hang on, i'm going to get bakari. what did you think? >> i will have to deal with andy and his loose term of facts in donald trump's speech.
because i think we've been seeing a rolling fact check, whether or not we're talking about crime, african-american unemployment, whether or not we're talking about the number of officers killed in the line of duty. all of these things, hispanic unemployment, all of those things have been fact checked throughout the night. many if not all of them have proven to be false. but i don't want to get on that part. i think that what we saw tonight was very dangerous. i thought we saw nationalists take a very scary turn. i thought you saw donald trump pit people against each other. you saw with one of the most defensive speeches you've seen since probably 1968. i thought you saw donald trump trying to pit african-americans against hispanics. i thought you saw donald trump trying to -- >> this is not something to laugh off. >> that didn't happen. >> because maybe you didn't hear this, but you don't hear the dog whistles that donald trump puts out and that is quite possible. what we heard tonight is that you should fear muslims. you should fear hispanics and you should fear
african-americans. what i did not hear is -- i didn't hear one positive story about an avenfrican-american ins speech tonight. i didn't hear one positive story about hispanics today, other than they're illegal immigrants that commit violent crimes.that was the theme. >> that's not anger that amanda is talking about, right? >> donald trump serves up the people on his side, gets them excited. he stirs up the people on the other side and gets them angry. >> that's simply not true. what we heard was a republican candidate mention the lgbt community and evangelicals. fighting for you, fighting together, that was the theme of the speech. and i love that we have number hads and focus groups that completely contradict -- >> but if you talk about about -- >> i'm not spinning anything. >> you are. >> how am i -- >> how did he pit -- >> all you have to do is look at the fact that he picked up groups of people, picked out
african-american unemployment and not only that, but he was incorrect. he picked out african-american crime rates. not only that, but he was incorrect. he talked about the poverty levels of hispanics, and he was incorrect. and he talked about illegal immigrants as if they're prone to criminality. he talked about african-americans as if they're prone to criminality. >> in the last few years, has illegal immigration gone up or down in america? >> has it gone up, down or remained flat sflp. >> it's gone down. >> in other words, it's the not a problem that -- >> it may not be a problem to you, but people who live in border towns have not had their voice heard for the last seven years. a bunch of local communities on the board ner arizona, this is a real thing. local buckets for hospitals, because of the illegals, and the crime rates, they may not be skyrocketing.
>> it's not going up. violent crime last year went up dramatically, remained flat or went down? >> here is the thing -- >> no, it's not. >> no, no, no. >> it is up. it is up. hold on. it is up. ask here is the thing. crime overall has gone down. but what he said in the 50 biggest cities, homicide ves increased by 17%. >> thank you. >> homicides increased significantly between 2014 and 2015. killings have risen 50% in d.c. and -- >> that's not true. >> that is true. in d.c., it is true. but it's misleading because between 2014 and 2015, authorize homicide rates are down or the first half of this year. killings have risen 50% in d.c., 60% in baltimore. >> overall, these rrnt the two great vices -- >> i've got a question for, andy and caylee. even with that, donald trump said on january 20th, 2017,
order will be restored. please tell me how he's going to be the law and order candidate and what he's going to do. >> caylee first and then i will answer. >> when you have a sitting fbi director sitting director of national intelligence warning us that refugees are being impose -- isis fighters are posing as refugees, you have the president expediting the very program his fbi director is decrying, i'm going to take the opinion of the fbi director -- >> crime on refugees? he's talking about inner-city violence and you're talking about refugees? >> donald trump, people don't feel safe. people are worried about image immigration, they are worried about terrorism. he's not talking about it in a careful, considered way. this is the rob. many republicans agree these are the problems. but he talks about it in a way that divides and inflames --
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>> to the signing of the iran deal which gave back. this was just prior to the signing of the iran deal which gave back to ran absolutely nothing. it will go down in history as one of the worst deals ever negotiated. another humiliation game when president obama drew a red line in syria and the whole world knew it meant absolutely nothing. in libya, our consulate, the symbol of american prestige
around the globe, was brought down in tlals. america is far less safe and the world is far less stable than when obama made the decision to put hillary clinton in charge of america's foreign policy. let's defeat her in november. >> back with me now, that was donald trump accepting his party's nomination tonight. my dream team is here. cnn's political director.. that wasn't scripted where he said let's defeat her. there was criticism earlier in
the week with where people were saying lock her up. this was a moment that people found to be more presidential tonight. >> i thought it was one of the most fascinating moments of the night. you all remember the whole 2012 campaign, president obama would go and speak and people would boo, he said don't boo, vote. this is donald trump's version of don't boo, vote. he took a negative energy in the crowd to make it a positive. let's defeat her in november and he resisted taking the bait with the crowd, which he has done a lot of resisting that in the past when he's in front of a crowd like that. and i said, wow, that is a moment of a guy who is not who may be showing signs of developing ask growing as a candidate. i hope so because if he really wants to be the candidate, you can't go along with things like lock her up about because you don't like the outcome of previous investigations.
i hope that was a sign of maturity. we shall see. but i hope that was the reasoning bhief it. >> so i want to go through some of these polls. these poles do not ask cannot reflect the views of all americans. it only reflects the views of those who watch the speech. the audience who watched the speech is more republican. let's go through these polls. overall reaction to donald trump's speech? very positive, 57%. somewhat positive, 18%. negative effect, 24%. how did donald trump's speech affect your vote? more likely to vote for him, 56% say they are. less likely, 10%. not much effect, 32%. does that surprise anyone? >> 42% of the people aren't moved much. when you're dealing with an overarching republican audience, you see what the results of that
are. by the fact of the master is, donald trump has to coalesce the base. he needs to bring over -- >> these are speech watchers. >> 56% of people like it. i'll tell you why the american pup loved this speech. >> of the people watching, they're mostly republicans. >> over 20 million people, it's not all republicans. >> just like when we do an instant poll on the state of the union tonight. >> i'll grant you that. >> it is a significantly skewed oughtence in terms of who watching. >> with that disclaimer, i'll give you that comment. but i think the rope why people are responding so positively, is that donald trump is often heard through a second or third party lens. you hear he's a homophobe.
tonight they saw it unfiltered from the heart, a speech he wrote with a cowriter and that's a real guy. yes covered a lot of ground. it went on for very, very long. it was kind of hard to keep following. >> my back was hurting. >> but i think he was trying to cover up for lost ground over the last week. he was trying to throw out a little something for everybody, everything under the sun. and in doing that, there wasn't any clear, uplifting message because i was trying to check so much boxes. and i don't really understand why. in the run up to the speech, a lot of people were saying, there's going to be something for somebody. >> the lgbt people died in orlando, we have to stop that. but he talked about it in terms of terrorism. he didn't say --
but peter -- >> no, we're talking about donald trump. stand by. stand by. we're talking about donald trump. not peter teal. so donald trump didn't say i stand by lgbt rights, i think all people should be merit. >> grand us this, okay? when people -- donald trump is very specific, that the mert of those people, they were startinged for being gay or sxanic. that is a reality. donald trump said that was a horrible event and everybody collapse and he said the lgbt community was unacceptable and people stood up.and said they agree with it. and donald trump said i think it's wonderful that you're with me on that. but to say that people don't need to be slaughtered is a -- >> that's what he said, though. >> but to say -- >> the most friend thely republican candidate in the
lesbian and gay community in the history had of the republican party. >> but talk -- >> but that's -- >> talk with you. >> but you're talking about a donald trump who simply said you're giving him credit and giving the crowd credit for cheering when people should not be slaughtered. >> that's tear. . >> but when donald trump comes out and says i oppose the gop platform that puts a ban on same sex marriage or that he -- it's against the ban of same-sex marriage, it's against the -- which is in the gop platform, then we have somebody talking about the selection of an openly gay wonderful billionaire is a big deal. >> but we're not talking about peter teal. >> forget peter teal. it's a selection. >> donald trump selected peter teal. >> but that's a message about donald trump's speech. >> this is the thing. the polls we've seen, did include some democrats.
probably a lot. millions of democrats, in fact. but bakari is upset and wants to nitpick tiny things because the overall message is a winning one. her slogan is i'm with her. and my slogan is i am here with you. talking in the first person and the second person -- >> did you write this speech? >> i think that the dog whistles that were in that speech weren't the meant for everyone. and donald trump has become a master of dog whistle politics. >> i'll be right back. how do robots work? ♪ you need a team... ...working together... ♪ ...doing all kinds of jobs. and the best place to find the job that's right for you is on the world's number-one job site.
back now live in cleveland. iva ivanka trump making her appeal directly to women to vote for her father. back with me now, ivanka trump introduced her father. she said it was terrifying of giving such a speech. how do you think she did? >> she was fantastic. it was the personal mix between personal and seeing her standsing up for working women and i thought she was extremely effective, probably the.top three in this entire thing. >> st let's listen. >> as president, my father will change the labor laws that were put in place at a time when women were not a significant portion of the workforce. and he will focus on making quality child care affordable and accessible for all. as a more myself of three young
children, i know how heart $to work while raising a feel. and i also know that i'm far more fortunate than most. american families need relief. policies that allow women with children to thrive should not be novelties, they should be the norm. politicians talk about wage equality, but my father has made it a practice at his company throughout his entire career. >> david, does she strike the right tone? definitely. i think she should be on the road with for donald trump in battleground states, talking about young women, married women. it's sometimes unclear whether she was with the republican convention or the democratic convention in her remarks. >> it was funny because she saidite nom really a republican or a democrat. >> at that moment, if you didn't understand why conservatives
have been wary of donald trump, it was very evident why. >> she's the polar opposite of her brother don jr. >> she's also making a millennial play when doing that. >> do you think she's going to sway over any women smp. >> possibly, but she's compete, hillary clinton's agenda. if you are a woman voting on those liberal issues, you're likely going to go to hillary clinton because she's proposed the same thing and much more generous. and having very important happened with ivayka trump in that speech. she transformed from being a politician's daughter to xeeg a campaign libbive. she should be treated like a campaign staffer, that is what the family is acting as. i think they get a pass this
week bub if they are willing to be part of donald trump's inner circle, they need to be treated as that and not children. >> instead of softball interviews and soft lighting, do you think 12347. >> yep. >> what about millennials, do you think she's win over any liberals? >> i'm not sure.again, she's expediting with hillary clinton on those issues. you're going to go with hillary clinton rather than the daughter of donald trump. >> i don't think she can erase a lot of the damage that donald trump did with his language and verbiage, the same type of using his own words against him that hb headquarter hut a hundred million dollars on tv with. but she was very, very good. she was the highlight. all the children did well. ivanka kept building up, each child got better. bier what she did do was she
gave a speech that was hillary clinton's speech. she invoked equals paying for equal work. make sure you continue to get day care while you're going to work. but the most ironic thing about that is donald trump on his campaign pays his female staffers a third less than his men. and i just think that is so ironic. >> do you know that for sure? >> no, he's comparing apples and oranges. because there are men in executive positions. they do get paid more than the women. >> but hillary clinton pays them the same. >> no, no. >> yes, she does. >> not in the clinton foundation. >> no, she's on the campaign and she believes in equal pay for equal work, she should -- >> you clearly missed some really big facts if the fact that the trump organization has more female executives than the male executives. >> that's not apples and oranges. we're talking about the campaign. the campaign that she's on, she can go back to the campaign and say women deserve equal foundation. >> but the foundation she's on
a huge finale tonight at the republican national convention. donald trump speaking for an hour and 15 minutes. and cnn's tom foreman has our reality check on some of trump's claims about time in this country. tom, what do you have for us? >> he said a lot about crime and is about fear of crime and about the need for law and order out in this world.
list listen. >> homicides last year increased by 17% in america's 50 largest cities. that is the largest increase in 25 years. >> so what are the facts? let's take a look at this. there was analysis done by "the washington post" about homicides in major cities. and yeah, look at this. big jump here. they're showing it from 2014 to 2015 up 770 homicides. .that's a 17% increase. big numbers out there. now, a couple things we should not here. this is a difference from what we've seen for many years where violence crime has actually been declining. so sort of a blip and there's no real exclamation as to why this is happening. but on that first claim, we have to say this is true. but he went on and talked about
other things, including the number of police officers being killed right now. listen. >> the somebody of police officers killed in the line of tune has risen by almost 50% compared to this point last year. >> if you look very specifically at the number of officers shot since last year, the minutes rat part of time, he is absolutely rig right. from last year to this year, it's up 82%. here is the problem. the number of police officers shot in this country compared to the number of officers is still, fortunately, very low. we don't have a tremendous number of these terrible events happening out there even with these recent, horrible attacks. that makes these numbers changes easily. you get a few more and it makes a big, big different. plus, 2015 had a very, very low level of violence against police officers. so that makes this number jump. if you look at something a little brodzer, if i look at a
ten-year average of all the officers who die in serving our communities out there, a ten-year average is about 50 officers a year die. if you project it out this year based on what we've seen so far, it would be about 56 for this year. so the bottom line is, we're going to say it's true, it is up somewhat, but it's misleading because all those detailed numbers make a big difference and the impression that it's running wild in some different way, as horrible as all this is, doesn't seem to be the case. that's why it's misleading. the bottom line is, i want it covered and all the other things out there, go to our website, cnn.com/reality check. we found plenty, don, that wasn't true, plenty that was and an awful love somewhere in between. >> tom foreman, that's why we
love having you here to work with facts and not emotions. andy, there we go. we were talking about those numbers earlier. crime in the 50 largestsies, hospitals are up, but you heard what he said about police officers around the country. it was very low last year, this year even with the recent space, so it's kind of on par. >> the ten-year average. now it's going to go to about 56 pp that's a% increase. murders in the 50 largest cities, up 17%. i think a lot of this has to do with the tone coming from the white house and if barack obama has commuted more sentences of offenders -- >> i consider some crack dealing violent, in my opinion. but let me finish this. barack obama has commuted more sentences than the last seven presidents combined. and the tone of that to our police is that the barack obama feels that the people on the treat, whether they be committing violent crimes or selling rock, whatever it may be, that they may be sometimes the victim. and i think that's unb acceptable. >> how many of those people that
he commuted have reoffended? >> i don't know. >> so you just made a blanket statement, but you can't say -- >> that has nothing to do with them reoffending. so me it's like saying what if they let out murderers and if they don't -- >> nobody let's out murderers. >> but you're talking about how they're contributing to the crime rate. but the assumption -- no, andy, i'm just telling you, the assumption is that those people that you -- no, it's the tone, the symbolism. and this is a little bit off, but hear me. guantanamo bay, the way that barack obama views these criminal activities, he let's them all out as if somehow they're victims. the way he views the world is that somehow they shouldn't be there, that they're a victim of either circumstance or a bad prosecutor. and that to me is dangerous. it's dissent grating to law
sxord. plus getting writ of stop and frisk is another reason. >> 50i8 be real quick. a criticism that i feel a lot of conservatives made about donald trump's speech is it came off as too authoritarian. but when you don't know where donald trump is going, when you preach about strength, strength, strength with no details about what you would do about with manned attorney minimums, when you create strength with no specifics, people get scared because they don't know where you're going with this message. i think that's something he needs to spend more time flushing out with his adviser. when there's had confusion, people get scared and rightly so. >> the leader sets the tonight. >> and it's making people scared and angry. >> i think andy was a bit irresponsible by saying barack obama was causing more violence in the streets and more depths of police officers.
because what we've seen is the fbi statistic webs whether or not you want to agree or disagree, that was a random statement by paul earlier, but the fbi statistics show that crime has dramatically des kred over the past 20 years. and for police officers -- >> i have another fact. you're misleading. >> under reagan, 101 officers died. right now, barack obama is lower than that. those numbers have dramatically decreased. >> here is what tom -- >> but -- >> i'm just saying every officer that dies is one too much. but to say that somehow the president of the united states is contributing to that i just think is a false narrative and i think it's dangerous. >> bakari decided that the fbi said crime is down. sheer what tom foreman would stamp thises as true but misleading because the fbi said murder ves gone up in 20 cities, in fact, fbi -- >> no, hold on. let me explain this. overall, crime is down in the country. >> okay.
murder. >> but in the three largest cities, yes. >> and it has gotten so bad that the fbi director has had to answer questions on this very matter and he said, and i'm going to quote him, something is going on here. those same words that donald trump uses. >> the fbi director believes it's a tone across the country that police officers are aphrase to do their job. >> we can debate specifics, but nobody can change the fact that americans do not feel safe right now. >>. >> that 70% thinks that another terrorist attack is eminent. we can debate facts tit for tat, but you can't change -- >> but donald trump is running on fear. he's not making people feel secure, that he's trusted. that is the problem. we don't know where we're going. >> and i asked a question earlier -- i asked a question earlier, because donald trump said on january 20th, 2017, order will be restored. and i said how is he is the lae law and order?
caylee said stopping refugees, but that's not the answer to the question. how is he going to stamp out crime? >> this is something that's going the be a big deal and will be handled in the debate. >> and what amanda was just saying about the picture that donald trump was portraying and the fear factor, one thing going into philadelphia that will be interesting to see, because hillary clinton is not known as the sunny business position county. that's not her style. but with i wonder if she and the democrats are going to try to adjust to present a really opposite view point. it's not really been in her had wheel house. i'm curious to see if they run with that. >> we'll be right back. e new ca. [ woman ] thanks. the dealership reviews on cars.com made it easy, but... [ man ] we thought it might be a little more tense. you miss the drama? yeah. [ technician ] ask him whatever you want. okay. ♪ do you think my sister's prettier than me?
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candidate, we have this with roger ailes. >> almost unbelievable. television and politics will not be the same as a result of what unfo unfolded tonight. donald trump's rise and roger ailes' fall. how will fox change. but he's been accused of sexual harassment by a number of women. as one source said, this is a win for the women of fox news. we don't know how many of them are alleging sexual harassment, but allegedly megyn kelly and others did. maybe others will feel more comfortable speaking out about harassment in their workplaces. >> he had a resignation letter, and this letter that he wrote to the rupert murdoch. what he did was said, look, i created this network. we created this network together. we made it the dominant cable network. one of the most dominant
channels on cable net works period. and he spoke to how he promoted women in talent and executive positions. obviously, he's trying to shelter himself from the barrage of criticism that he's going to get. >> i can't stress how important it is, that these two events are culminating to thgether. no one knows how this is going to affect the network and the republican party. because part of the reason, maybe the whole reason was to fight against liberalism. >> yes, and to present an alternative to what they say is the biased, liberal media. there's a real chance that roger ailes will start working for donald trump now. >> he might replace paul manafort. >> or maybe in an informal way giving trump advisce. that's a real possibility. he worked for nixon. he's got a lot to bring to the table.
he's fallen. he's been defeated by fox. he's going to want some sort of revenge. >> and i would say more significantly, so much of what was said on stage tonight, so much of what donald trump has been running on for the last 12 months, that came out of a 20-year history of some of the rhetoric, of some of the culture wars, the divisiveness that was fostered at fox news over a period of two decades. look, that's not a criticism necessarily of what roger ailes created, that's a testament, the amount of power he had over a political party. that's historic. >> roger ailes paved the way for a guy like donald trump to get to a place where he is now, at least politically. >> the way i see it in terms of this election, a lot of people, running for president would think of things in terms of the fox primary, how do i get the best coverage on fox news. that's not a game donald trump played. he played across all mediums in
the all cable media primary. that worked out very well for him. without fox news, people seem to think that trump played much differently. i think republicans will follow the trump model more and try to go more places like cnn without knowing how to navigate the terrain at fox. every smart candidate would try to get a meeting with ailes or the executives to try to get to know him a little better, to find out what issues they cared about. that's just smart staffing, smart politicking. without ailes there, nobody knows what the issues are. >> his behavior is unacceptable. i'll go so far, the way all these women have come forward, there's something wrong with this guy, seriously wrong. he's acting like a pervert. it's unacceptable. >> he has denied the allegations. >> i agree, but it's my of opportunity to look at the whole
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