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me. i had no krog over anything. i had no control over anything. did anybody ever deny it was the father? they're not saying, oh, that wasn't my father. that's a little hard to do. it looks like him. so here's the story. the press takes that and they say donald trump and his conspiracy theories. he went out and said his father was with lee harvey oswald and he assassinated the president. what did i do? so two things. those were the two points. so in those two points, he said about the endorsement -- and i just had it cleared up. i think i'm doing the right thing. but i have to do it. number one, the heidi thing you understand now. number two, i know nothing about his father. i know nothing about lee harvey oswald. but there was a picture on the front page of the national inquirer which does have credibility and they're not going to do pictures like that because they get sued for a lot of money if things are wrong, okay, a lot of money. and there was a picture.
and that's the only thing i know. so now they use the two things as the reason he won't support. let me tell you something. we, if for no other reason, if people really dislike me, and i don't think they do any more after the four days. if i have kids that like me that much, how bad can i be, right, right? and they love their daddy. i was a good father. but i have smart children and good children. and i'm getting a lot of credit. i think they were the star of the convention. mike, i think they saved us. i think they saved us, mike. but no, my children were really -- and they're saying, people are saying that, they were the star, the real stars of the convention. i was so proud of them, i mean, it was such a great thing. but to finish, this was an amazing period of time. this was an amazing convention. i just heard a number -- dan
scanvino, come up, a few of you might have seen him on twitter, facebook. he's a facebook, twitter junky. that was the first time i've seen him look up in seven months. nobody knows facebook and twitter and that stuff better than dan. why don't you give just a quick report? because i hear the numbers are astro nome call. we're dealing in a modern age. a lot of people saying what's facebook, what's -- unfortunately, we're dealing in a modern age. how about giving a quick -- you want to hear this? wait until you hear the numbers. you won't even believe them. go ahead. >> thank you, president trump. [ cheers and applause ] this is, i got to, i have to tell you, #trumptrain. the trump train is all here, right? this is surreal for everybody that's part of the campaign.
twitter last night exploded. facebook exploded. instagram exploded. did everybody see the videos on mr. trump's twitter account, instagram account, facebook account? i mean, tens of millions of views. we had over 85 million views on just those videos in a four to five-day period, all right. almost half a million new followers on facebook. mr. trump hit 10 million followers on twitter. this will never be done again. it's impossible to be done again with this man right here. it's absolutely impossible with his platforms. a total of 22.5 million followers between instagram, twitter and facebook. 22.5 million. i don't know how you do this every day. this is insane.
impressions on twitter. per month. over 1 billion impressions on twitter. similar, the numbers are going to come out for facebook, they're going to be probably in the billions. absolutely unheard of. when mr. trump wants to get a message out and things are not working out with cnn or somebody, we can put it on his platform and get more views just on one of those social media accounts. @realdonaldtrump on twitter. real donald trump on instagram. and our next vice president of the united states, @mike_pence, so please follow him as well. he has a governor account but he's still the governor of indiana so let's just try and follow him there, all right, give him some engagements. we're going to be pushing out a lot of messages for the campaign.
there's a whole team. so we love you. this is absolutely awesome to come out and talk to #trumptrain. let's make america great again, thank you! [ applause ] >> so one of my really good choices in life. although i'll confirm that in about 3 1/2 months from now. but i believe truly it will be one of my really great decisions. is picking mike pence to run along with me and to run for you. and so i'd like to ask governor pence from the great state of indiana, and we love indiana and bobby knight, who i love and lou holtz and your wonderful, you know, we have them all. digger. you have a lot of coaches out there. these guys are great people. they love mike. and maybe mike can say a few words. thank you.
>> we are so grateful. grateful to all of you. the volunteers. the people wearing the blue shirts. the people that brought about the most exciting political convention of my entire lifetime. thank you for your extraordinary work, your tireless hours. to all of those who did the work, who did the setup, doing the tear-down now, thank you so much for creating a place where we could celebrate the kind of leadership that america is embracing more and more. every hour as we move towards the november election. i just wanted to express a word of appreciation to all of you.
we're so excited to be a part of this team. my wonderful wife karen pence is with us today. and we are hitting the campaign trail together. and i can just tell you, i can just tell you, having spent time with this man and his family, having seen his ability to connect and speak for the american people, i say with absolute confidence if we work with all of our hearts for every day between now and election day, we will make donald trump the 45th president of the united states of america and we will make america great again. thank you and god bless you and let's go get it done! [ cheers and applause ] [ audience shouting "trump" ]
>> thank you. just one thing i wanted to leave you with. supreme court justices. no matter how much you like or dislike, no matter what your feelings, whether you're the governor of ohio. whether you're a senator from texas. or any of the other people that i beat so easily and so badly, you have no choice, you got to go for trump. supreme court justices. if hillary clinton gets in, she is going to replace -- and last night i called him our beloved justice scalia. he was great. and we're going to get somebody as close to him and his views and philosophy as possible.
conservative. all the thicks you want. the things we stand for as a party. i promise that. being an outsider, they said oh, we don't know, supposing you put liberal judge. you know, we have a lot of ideas that people don't normally have, right? i said i have an idea. in order to -- because i didn't know if they believed me or we don't know, what happens if we elect him and then he puts up liberal judges. by the way, our conservative republican president haven't done so well with the judges, have they? we have obamacare. should have been knocked out twice because of an appointment. so we'll do better, we'll do much better. that's why i put out a list of 11 judges. but no matter what you think of donald trump, as a republican, if that's what your philosophy is, if you're a great, great
believer in the constitution, you have no choice, hate to say it. whether you're a hater or a lover. and by the way, last night, don't think there was one hater in that room. and that was a packed -- there were no seats. those seats were selling for a lot of money on ebay. they were going for big numbers. i was thinking about taking 10 or 12 tickets and saying let's go. but they were selling for a lot of money. and it was amazing. just remember, supreme court justices. i want to finish by this, we've had some incredible support because when i started everyone said, you know, some of these pundits that now say oh, well, you can't do that, these were the same people who say, well, if he runs. but he won't run. i ran. then they said, oh, then they
go, but he won't win. then i started off at 6%, which is pretty high because i was only there about two days. people forgot. said that was only two days. then it went to like 12. then 18. every week they said, well, that's his ceiling. and he can't do more than that. so we go from six, right, i saw them in the audience, those two. so we go from six to 12 to 18 and every week they go, well, that's the ceiling. charles krauthammer. he will not run. and if he runs, he will just be doing it for fun. this is not fun. this is a lot of work. okay. this is a lot of work, folks. i didn't need this. this wasn't in exactly the schedule. but i saw how badly our country is doing and how easy it will be to bring back. trade deals alone will make an impact like you won't believe. money will come in. jobs will come in.
then you look at the military where it's so depleted. but we're taking care of other nations. and i want to continue to take care of other nations. there are a lot of good things about that. but they have to pay us. they have to pay us. i remember years ago, i've always said, wow, i never quite understood it. they said the united states spends ten times the money on its military than anybody else in the world. i said, well, china has a big military, all these places. that's surprising. but, you know. i was billion buildings and things. py never gave it too much thought. and then i realized. we spend so much more than anybody else. we're protecting everybody in the world. i mean, we're protecting all these nations. and these are rich nations. and they're great nations. japan. they send their cars. they make a fortune. and then they don't pay us the amount it costs. i don't want to make a profit. i want cost. pay us what it cost.
maybe we can't get it. but if we can't, see, you have to be prepared to walk. you have to. if you're not prepared to walk. hillary clinton came out when she heard what i said about japan. japan is a very rich nation. those cars are flowing in. they're rich because of us, if you think about it. okay. those cars, you go to los angeles, you see these massive ships. it looks like nascar. by the way, thank you brian france, owner of nascar, he endorsed donald trump. i love nascar! richard petty endorsed me. a lot of the great drivers endorsed me. king richard. but they -- it's like, it's like these guys driving -- it's like richard petty driving, they're coming out of the boats, these massive ships. and they don't pay us. and then a general gets up and the general says, mr. trump is wrong, doesn't he understand that japan pays us 50 percent of the cost of defending them. oh, great, they say, mr. trump, could we have a comment. i said, yeah, why aren't they
paying 100 percent, right? right? [ applause ] and germany. and south korea. we have 28,000 soldiers. and think of this one, saudi arabia. saudi arabia wouldn't be there for one week if we pulled out. they have nothing but money. nothing but money. they have so much money they don't know what to do with it, okay. they don't know what to do with it. who's making our deals for us? one deal like that has a massive impact on our budgets, on our economics as a country. we're up to 19 trillion. we're very soon going to be $21 trillion. trillion. nobody even knows what -- i could take the great harold team, say, tell me what a trillion dollars is. he's worth almost a trillion so he may know. he may know. but, you know, honestly most people don't even know what that is. it's so much. they wouldn't know how to define it. so here's a story. we are going to do something really special. our message caught on.
when i started this, we had all these pundits saying it won't happen. and our little staff. corey lewandowski was great. i have to tell you. and he's been very loyal and he's been on cnn and he's really been fighting for me which is very nice and i respect that a lot. hope hicks. where's hope? come here, hope. get up here, hope. hope hicks. legendary hope hicks. come on up here, hope. come, come, come. she's shy. get her up here. come on, hope. come on, hope. we had a very small but tough team. we had a small -- they're not going to lift you over that barricade. look at her, she's very shy. she's a great person. she's done an amazing job. and we had a staff of between -- george, where's our george? come on over here.
come on, just stand over here some place. get up on the dais, come on. i'd get hope up but she can't get through the secret service people there. and what happened -- so we had a small staff. i got criticized for it. they'd say, so-and-so -- i won't use names because i don't want to embarrass anyone. so-and-so has spent 20 times what trump has spent and has a much bigger staff and then we win. you're supposed to get a credit if you have smaller staff, less payroll and you win. but in politics, you don't get question. anyway, i want to thank my entire group. then we beefed it up because we're really now in the final stretch. 3 1/2 months. and paul manafort has done an amazing job. he's here some place. where's paul? paul manafort. oh, good, you made it. paul manafort has done a fantastic -- and all of paul's people. paul brought on his staff. we really do, we have a great staff of talented people.
a great staff. and most of them are right here. and john and everybody. my man right here. and michael. you'd have to be -- michael, come on up, michael. come on, get a little tv time. i don't know if he's going to be hired for hollywood, tend to doubt it, but you never know. come on up, rick. so we have a great group of people. and we have a group of people that really wants to win and i think knows how to win. and we've also been winning all our lives. this group in front of me, i know so many of you, we've been winning all our lives. we've got exactly three months and three weeks. i am going to be working so hard. i'm not going to last time where they disappeared for the last month and a half. what happened? and give obama credit, he was on every television show. he was all over the place. we're not going to disappear. so we have a really great chance of taking our country back.
of change. of getting great supreme court justices. so i want to thank everybody. i love you, folks. this has been such an incredible movement. i love you. i know so many of you. we're going to go all the way. and i'll tell you what, when we get there, we will indeed make america great again. i love you. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you. [ applause ] >> all right, john berman here in cleveland. you were listening to donald trump in his first appearance since accepting his party's nomination here in cleveland. the message from donald trump, he will not leave cleveland quietly. normally the day after a candidate accepts his party nomination he looks forward to the general election. he bring also a message of
unity. he pushes forward to gather voters from his party and others. that is not what donald trump just did. instead of looking to the future, he danced all over the past, obsessing almost over ted cruz and ted cruz's nonendorsement. donald trump said he would not accept ted cruz's endorsement. he doesn't want ted cruz's endorsement. one day, he might even found a super pac to defeat ted cruz. even more than that, donald trump brought up the national enquirer photo, that purports to show ted cruz's father with lee harvey oswald. there's absolutely no evidence that rafael cruz was with lee harvey oswald. in fact, quite the contrary. once again, donald trump pedalled in that photo, discussing it at length. fascinating to see. highly unusual. jason carroll outside the hotel where it just happened, jason.
>> well, i have to tell you, you know, speaking to a delegate from ohio, one of the things this person told me and one of the things he liked so much about donald trump last night is that he stayed on message. he said he appealed to the base by sticking to his issues that the base really cares about. delgs spite what the critics said about his speech last night. today, just what we just heard, a very different story. as you said there, he covered a number of topics. not just about ted cruz going into the past, talking about all of what has been hashed out over the primaries. but he did talk about unity. let's start with that first. let's talk about the unity, as you know, there were issues about party unity this week. not just with ted cruz but even on the first day of the convention, you know, people sort of coming forward and trying to change the rules so there was dissension within the party. donald trump says no, there wasn't. he says yesterday this is a party that's very much united. he described the convention this way.
he said it was peaceful, beautiful and a love-filled convention. >> the party is just come together. the party has come together. and the few people that aren't there, it's okay, you know, you got to understand, ran as an outsider. i didn't want anybody. now i have guys like mike pence. i mean, this isn't supposed to happen. see, now, if i don't win, i'm going to blame mike, right, we have to blame mike. >> so let's talk a little bit more about ted cruz. you know, the day after a convention where you're giving an acceptance speech where you're talking about cities riddled with crime, where you're talking about terrorism, i think there's a lot of people who thought today he would talk about that, but he pivoted and talked about the past, talked about these issues that he's had with senator ted cruz, and his wife, and what he did was he talked about that picture that melania, that was released from the super pac that went out to the folks in utah.
it was an odd moment i think a lot of people would say the day after he's given this sort of acceptance speech to go into the past, talking about ted cruz. but, as you said, he did. listen to what trump had to say about that issue. >> so he took his speech, and you're bound by that speech, just like you're bound by the pledge. you're bound by the pledge. so ted cruz took his speech that was done, was on the teleprompter, said hello, then made a statement that wasn't on the speech and then went back to his speech. see, to me, that's dishonorable. to me, not signing a pledge is dishonorable, okay, it's dishonorable. >> as you heard there, he talked about ted cruz. he felt as though he was being dishonorable. ted cruz did submit his speech to the trump campaign. trump says he changed that speech at the last minute. so once again, instead of
looking to the future, a pivot to the past for a bit. in terms of the future, there was something. talked about bernie sanders. it is his belief he will get bernie sanders voters going forward. bernie sanders responding to that saying he does not believe his supporters will back donald trump. saying those who voted for me will not support trump who has made bigotry and divisiveness the cornerstone of his campaign, #rncwithbernie, john. >> all right, jason carroll, outside a remarkable event here in cleveland as donald trump finishes up his stay, after a really interesting week. joining me to discuss, joseph boreli, new york city council man and donald trump supporter, co-chair of donald trump's new york campaign. david gregory, cnn political analyst and host of the david gregory show podcast. cnn senior media correspondent and host of the reliable sources brian stelter and cnn commentator christine quinn. david gregory, what we just saw,
and we said this before about donald trump, you have not seen before. a candidate coming out of his convention, all right, and we'll talk about his convention speech last night because a lot of people are talking about that or were talking about it. but stepping all over whatever message he wanted to send last night by making a new attack on ted cruz. >> i think it's a line from "saving private ryan" tom hanks we have stepped into the world of the surreal. we've been there politically with donald trump for many months so none of us should be surprised any more. he is not playing by any other playbook beyond his own. he's not allowing his message from last night to carry. as our colleague matt lewis was saying, maybe he'll do this every day during the democratic national convention. just kind of have a victory speech, just say whatever's on his mind. there's a sloppiness to it. talking about ted cruz, saying he won't take his endorsement. rehashing these garbage stories about ted cruz's father and the
controversy over ted cruz's wife. this is campaign 101, you shouldn't do this stuff. he keeps doing it. he obviously doesn't care. because he is banking on the idea that people look up and say, yeah, this guy is anything but normal in politics. let's keep paying attention. >> almost as if he gave this speech on teleprompter last night. was a message the campaign wanted to deliver. today he was unrestrained by that teleprompter. councilman, as a donald trump supporter, when you see him going after ted cruz. i think a lot of people say he can hit him with bare knuckles on not getting the endorsement. that's okay. you can say i don't want the endorsement. but then to go back and once again bring up that national inquirer photo which donald trump was trafficking in the primaries, which he says, you know, i don't know, it shows ted cruz's father with lee harvey oswald. as a donald trump supporter, is that the type of thing you like to see? >> i don't know if i
characterize it as a reaffirmation of the ted cruz story. i think he was trying to explain it in a way that makes it seem like it's manufactured outrage. just like we saw with the melania trump speech thing. it's something that distracted the message for a couple of days. now we have polling data that show americans really didn't care. they weren't distracted by some of these sideshows. >> do you think it is fair game as a donald trump supporter to suggest -- because that's what he's doing -- that his father, ted cruz's father, might be in a photo with lee harvey oswald? >> i don't think we saw him suggesting it, i think we saw him trying to explain it away and give some background -- >> he said no one's ever denied it. >> he's walking a fine line. i think in some ways he's actually maybe setting up the parameters for 2020 race wherein perhaps in his mind he's being primaried by ted cruz. i think that's something that might actually pan out at some point and he's just essentially setting the stage for that now. >> brian stelter, cnn media
correspondent, this has to do with that national enquirer photo which donald trump mentioned in an interview. bringing it up again, now today, the day after his convention, fascinating. >> i heard more than a dozen factual inaccuracies during this event. one of them was about the national inquirer. he said the inquirer is respectable. the truth is, many of its stories are false. this is an example of one of them. we see a donald trump that just never lets it go. some of his supporters love that about him. like almost verbal shock and awe, daring you to turn the channel, i bet nobody did. he has an ability to be comedic and provide shtick that we never see in candidates. he even said next week no one's going to watch the democratic convention which of course is untrue. lots of people are going to watch the convention. trump is right, he did have high, high ratings for that speech last night. it's just so curious he chose not to reinforce the themes from last night again this morning. i guess once again with donald trump, that is what his fans
admire about him. that he says what you're not supposed to say. it's the same thing we found a year ago. what's odd though is he's still doing it in the general election. >> christine quinn, hillary clinton supporter, your reaction? >> well, for high ratings, mud wrestling has high ratings. that's not a determination of who's qualified to be the president of the united states. and, you know, we saw last night yes he read from a teleprompter. which we seem to herald him every time he does that. again, all it shows is he can read, which is a qualification for third grade. but last night's speech was dark and an attempt to really in my opinion frighten americans and further divide us as a country and divide us as a part of the international world. but what we saw that he did today when he was theoretically going to thank his volunteers was classic and i think last
night was part of this too but classic mean bully donald trump. he said just two or three days ago it was no big deal that ted cruz didn't endorse him and now he's again attacking his family in a way that is unnecessary, off message and gives me great confidence that hillary clinton is going to win this election. >> joe? >> i don't know if christine was watching the same speech because cnn's own instand polling after last night had two-thirds of people say this was going to affect their vote in a positive way. over three quarters of people who watched, in the poll, said this was a positive message. he addressed issues that are significant to americans. we lad journalists going out in baden route, nice, istanbul, and this is what's front and center on the mind of americans and he's speaking to that.
>> if they watch that news conference, what are they thinking? >> they don't like it. what they're thinking about and certainly reince priebus is thinking about how does he take what he did last night and expand his support? i think he really played to his core support last night. >> david gregory, joseph, christine -- >> i don't think this convention did anything to open him up -- >> christine, you got a week next week all week next week, christine quinn and hillary clinton. i understand, i understand. we're coming back. we'll talk to you in a little bit. up next, we're going to talk about hillary clinton because she has a big announcement today. we expect to hear her vice presidential selection any minute. it's going to come to a text message near you. is it one of these people, cory booker, tim kaine, tom vilsack or none of the above?
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i got your nose right here. i know that's your thumb, grandpa. talent! learn about it! as the drama ends here in cleveland or doesn't end frankly as the case may be, the hillary clinton intrigue is just beginning. any minute now she's expected to announce her running mate by text message in advance of the democratic convention next week in philadelphia. she is on the campaign trail. crisscrossing florida. starting today. joining me mao from her first campaign stop in orlando, joe johns. joe, what are we expecting? >> well, john, certainly an attempt here to build at least a little bit of anticipation in order to try to take the spotlight away from the end of the republican convention. the leading contender we're told from democratic sources including some in the democratic leadership is tim kaine, the senator from virginia, also a former governor of that state,
which will be critical in the november election. he's a former chair of the democratic national committee. he's also been vetted for this job before by then senator barack obama in '08 before he decided on joe biden. among the others mentioned in the very top tier, that would be tom vilsack, the agriculture secretary, currently, under president obama, who is also a former governor of ohio, very close with both bill and hillary clinton. the hope would be that he would be able to bring in small town america to vote for that ticket. a lot of questions remain of course. we did get to see the senator from virginia, kaine, earlier today, a brief video by our crew that was staking him out. doesn't seem like he has a heavy schedule at all today. plenty of room to do something else if need be.
with tom vilsack, a little busier out in st. louis attending an event. another name that's been mentioned of course much more over the last several days, cory booker, senator from new jersey, and we have him staked out as well too. so all eyes on these folks. hillary clinton expected to show up here in early afternoon to talk about the mass shooting at the pulse nightclub here in orlando, back to you. >> all right, joe johns in florida, i like it very much, joe essentially tim kaine leaving enough room in his calendar to be picked as a running mate today if it comes up. david gregory with us, christine quinn. great to have you all here. you have done a podcast recently with tim kaine who right now is the senator from virginia but might want another job or be looking for another job in the next hour or two. >> there's a lot of reasons why he's getting so much attention. he was among the finalists for
president obama back in 2008. obviously didn't get that nod. he's never lost an election. virginia governor, virginia senator, speaks fluent spanish. he's a person of deep faith. i think he also helps hillary clinton double down on something that's important to her. which is to project a steady picture of leadership in a turbulent world. i think she really wants to draw that contrast with donald trump in terms of qualifications for governing and just something that's a little bit more cerebral and less kind of extremist. he can also go out and campaign in all those places where trump is going to be trying to pick off more work class voters. i think they've done that together. we never forget you pick a vice president based on who you can work with and serve with well in an administration. >> if there is a knock against tim kaine in this whole selection process, some of it comes from the left. progressives would look at tim kaine, say, he is not what we want the future of this party to
be, the bernie sanders future of party. do you think it could ruffle some feathers on that end? >> absolutely not. i think if the secretary picks tim kaine, i think people are going to rally around that choice. as david said, i believe it really shows a message about a team, either one obviously if it's the vice president we're talking about ready to take over at any moment and be the president, which is in sharp juxtaposition to what we saw from donald trump and his campaign here in cleveland. the other important issue, just to remind folks of a really important issue for senator sanders and his supporters was what was in the platform. uniformly, sanders and supporters feel respected and included in how that platform moved forward. i think you're going to see a convention in philly next week that is united and focused and
energized to move forward and win. >> john phillips, donald trump supporter, do you see any one of the people on the short list here, whether it be tim kaine or vilsack or booker, any one of them you see as tough to run against? >> i don't. i think if she could nominate a carton of ice cream, she would. she wants to make this election about donald trump, his personality. she doesn't want anyone that's going to rock the boat. she doesn't want elizabeth warren. she doesn't want sander, which is why he wasn't vetted. that may cause a problem with bernie sanders people if you get someone like a purple state like tim kaine. when he cut his teeth through the state and political scene there, that was a red state. so i'm sure he's taking some interesting positions the bernie folks won't like. it's a wild card still. >> he's got that support from elizabeth warren. rather, she does, she has that support from warren. think that helps her among
progressi progressives. one of the areas where, again, she can go in a different direction and do something that's a little safer choice. >> david gregory, john phillips, thanks so much. we've been here in cleveland all week. next week, we will be in philadelphia. the democratic national convention will be there. cnn special coverage of the democratic national convention. it starts monday. there's going to be stuff starting sunday. all day monday. i'll be on the air at 3:00 a.m. monday. that's when the coverage starts. any moment now, president obama will host a joint news conference it one of donald trump's most vocal critics, the president of mexico. he has compared donald trump to hitler. what will he say today? what will president obama say, most importantly, to donald trump's comment about the state of the nation? we will bring that to you live. plus, roger ailes. the powerful former head of fox news. he's out. in the wake of a sexual
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major questions this morning about the future of fox news. after its founder and ceo roger ailes, would be of the most powerful people in media, he resigned. his exit followed the sexual harassment lawsuit filed against him and backed up by several other women. cnn senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" brian stelter joins us now.
brian, this is a huge moment. >> it sure is. i had a senior executive say the women of fox news spoke and the murdochs listened. two weeks ago when ex-anchor gretchen carlson filed a sexual harassment lawsuit claiming that ailes had retaliated against her and fired her for refusing his sexual advances, other women came forward, speaking to a law firm conducting a review of carlson's allegations. we know megyn kelly was among the women who spoke and said she had been sexually harassed by ailes about a decade ago. what this suggest, what this picture we're painting here i suppose is of a series of behaviors throughout a course of decades. ailes is denying the allegations. i talked to a lot of people at fox who don't believe it. who can't believe that roger aims was doing something like this. but the number of women was significant enough that the murdochs, who own fox, decided they had no choice but to remove
him. his office was packed up. he wallace os out of the buildi. he wasn't allowed to say good-bye to the staff. there's questions about what he'll do next and what could happen maybe with him and donald trump. so there's a lot of curiosity now about the future for him and fox news. >> he said two things that are fascinating. first of all, rupp put murdoch is going to run fox us into and what's the future for him now? >> there's curiosity about how they're going to feud perhaps. they're not allowed legally to attack each other but there's animosity here. clearly ailes is a fallen giant. he may want to get revenge. i had one say to me this morning, when roger gets knocked down, he wants to swing right back. how's he going to do that? maybe ailes will go to donald trump's campaign. donald trump and roger ailes are
old friends. they've been in touch for decades. they talk on the phone all the time. roger ailes could help the trump campaign if he wanted to be an informal adviser or maybe even be a formal strategist. that's definitely being talked about both on the trump campaign side and among ailes allies. we don't know for sure because he has not had any comment. basically we're in the dark about what ailes is going to do. there is tremendous curiosity. he's one of the most powerful men in media. two weeks ago, no one thought this could ever happen, that he would lose his job over sexual harassment allegations. >> brian, thank you. we'll see you in philadelphia. let's talk about the running for president saga. donald trump just finishing up his convention here in cleveland. going out with a bang, attacking ted cruz once again. let's bring back our political commentators. matt lewis, "the daily caller." john phillips, talk radio host for kabc and trump supporter.
and corey sellers, and hillary clinton supporter matt lewis, conservative commentator. let me play for you what trump rehashed >> they have an old picture having breakfast with lee harvey oswald. i'm not saying anything. and here's how the press takes that story. this had nothing to do with me. except i might have pointed it out. but it had nothing to do with me. i have no control over anything. i might have pointed it out. but they never denied, did anybody ever deny it was the father? they weren't saying, that isn't -- it looks like him. so here's the story. the press takes that, and thoe say, donald trump and his conspiracy theories, he went out and said his father was with lee harvey oswald, and he assassinated the president. what did i do?
>> all right. matt lewis, donald trump, you know, bringing up ghosts of primaries past. >> it's just amazing. there's a maxim in politics, don't get mad, don't get even, get ahead. donald trump becomes president, there could be lots of retribution of what ted cruz said this weekend at the convention. why not focus on hillary clinton. it is not a campaign reacting strategically. it is a candidate who is reacting emotionally. so far, you know, it worked for him in the republican primary, but this is not how you win a general election. >> they went into last night obviously with an idea of how they did want to win that general election. in his speech he gave a vision of america, john phillips, that a lot of people said is dark. he did it right from the beginning of the speech. let's listen. >> our convention occurs at a moment of crisis for our nation. the attacks on our police and
the terrorism of our cities, threaten our very way of life. any politician who does not grasp this danger is not fit to lead our country. >> so, john phillips, this was sdisedly not shining city on a hill. this is not morning in america. >> what you saw last night is exactly what he's been saying all through the campaign, and just wasn't delivered with the poetry we're used to that we saw earlier today. part of the reason why so many of us watch donald trump and we see it and don't think anything of it, it's humorous, engaging. donald trump is never boring. he didn't give us a spoonful of sugar last night. he gave it today, when he was also going after his enemies and having his festivus day of reckoning. >> for all the talk this morning and last night by the
commentators. people did not find it to be dark. they said they found donald trump to be talking about them and their concerns. is this something that maybe some critics are making too much of? >> no, i think donald trump was speaking to the room. i think the gentleman who spoke before me said it best. this is not how you win a general election. donald trump's speech last night was nationalism at its worst. it invoked fear throughout the country. he's preying on people's fears. last night when you talk about brown people, muslims, african-americans, and when you talk about hispanics, he did not have one good thing to say about those groups of people. and what we're seeing is xenophobia during his campaign. i think people were surprised by the discipline in which donald trump spoke. there was no new note. i was struck by the fact that
for this entire one year and one month, donald trump again gave a speech with no substance. he said on january 20th, 2017, there will be law and order. my question to donald trump and any of his supporters is, how? >> interesting. the focus group i did also a lot of the people said, yes, donald trump is pointing out the problems. but the one thing he doesn't talk about is the how. matt lewis, i want to know, what's this campaign going to be like in a week and a half? based on what we saw last night, based on what we just saw with donald trump, based on what we might see next with hillary clinton, where are we going to be in eight days? >> the same thing we saw three months ago. it's not really changing. hillary clinton has sort of gone radio silent this week, while republicans have their nomination cop test. i guess she thought it was smart, let them have the dumpster fires as it turned out to be. keep a low profile. what if donald trump decides to counterprogram. what would the networks do if he
decides to hold one of these press conferences, you know, while things are happening in philadelphia. i don't think there's never going to be a pivot. there's never going to be donald trump now settling down. mike pence has to stand there today with that grin on his face and listen to him talk about rafael cruz and jfk conspiracy. if picking mike pence doesn't change the tone, i don't think anything else is going to do it. >> john phillips, last words. do you go after ted cruz if you're already the republican nominee? >> you're the guy that's going to stand up to the bullies, then going after your enemies is something the voters, i think, will foregive you for. >> giving ted cruz some of that law and order. thank you all so much. live pictures from the white house. any minute now, president obama will host a joint news conference for the president of mexico. what's going to be fascinating here is to hear how president obama reacts to donald trump's acceptance speech last night,
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wow, what a busy and bizarre day it is already. the president of the united states, barack obama, meeting with the president of mexico at the moment. some in the white house say this is a coincidence? i think not. the republican convention, the news conference coming to us shortly from the white house. we'll take you there. now the bizarre. that comes courtesy of donald trump. before leaving cleveland this morning, instead of repeating the big themes from last night's speech, he decided instead to fire another torpedo, maybe three at a few good fellow republicans, including john kasich and ted cruz. we'll bring you that in a minute. his campaign already saying, sorry, mr. trump, we prefer you think about last night. and trump's promises to end washington gridlock and restore law and order. >> this is the