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momentarily, we might be getting that announcement. i want all of our viewers to stay with cnn because it will be very interesting to see who hillary clinton eventually picks. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front" next. the terror attack in a busy mall in germany. tonight, a massive man hunt out for the gunman. who is behind it? plus gunmen opening fire in a mcdonald's and a witness says children were intentionally target and hillary clinton will reveal her vp very soon. who will it be? let's go "out front." ♪ ♪ good evening, and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, the breaking news. a man hunt for terrorists at this hour. a shooting rampage at a mcdonald's in munich. nine dead, at least ten wounded.
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police tonight frantically searching for three shooters, special forces from around germany are now converging on munich. gun fire also broke out at an adjacent mall. we have disturbing cell phone video capturing some of the deadly scene. what you are about to see is graphic. [ gunshots ] >> one shooter purportedly coming out from that mcdonald's opening fire on innocent pedestrians. a witness telling cnn the shooter may have targeted children. that mcdonald's is just across the street from that shopping mall which is the biggest in the city of munich. heavily armed police are scouring the city and its mass transit system is shut down. it is still shut down and residents urged to shelter in place and in their homes.
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it looks like a terror attack. president obama has been briefed and offering his condolences and erin, what you are now witnessing is a massive man hunt. >> reporter: that's right, erin. the situation here in munich is certainly tense. that man hunt for up to three suspects still under way. a short while i was at the munich airport and the situation there was calm. flights landing as normal, but i noticed very few taxis available and that's because authorities have warned taxi drivers to stay off roads because potential passengers may be suspects. i'm now trying to make my way to the scene where this all happened atollismia mall, but the highways were once shut down have been reopened and there is a heavy police presence there. authorities have deployed the s.w.a.t. team as well as federal
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police stopping cars on the highways and checking i.d.s. we understand enhanced police patrol have been deployed to the austrian-german border, as well. authorities here say the situation is clear that this looks like a terrorist attack, but it's important to emphasize here that the motives of these suspects currently are unknown. a telephone number for missing persons has been established to support victims' families. they are urging people to await accurate information and avoid exchanging unsubstantial rumor on social media as they struggle to get the situation under control and the city calm. erin? >> all right. erin mclaughlin, thank you very much, on the ground in munich. brian todd is out front. brian, you got a chance to speak to witnesses to this horrific attack. one woman was actually inside the mcdonald's when the shooting began. what did she tell you? >> erin, this woman who we only
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want to call loretta. that's her first name. we want to caller this that for her safety. she saw the man in the mall. she was only a couple of inches away when she came out and his back was turned to her or she might be dead right now. her 8-year-old son saw the man load his gun inside the bathroom and he then came out and started firing on children. she also gave an account on what the man said. >> i hear this allah akbar. allah akbar. i know this because i am muslim, too. i hear this, and i only crying, screaming and take my children and go out. >> does that mean this man is an islamic terrorist? maybe not. there was a verbal exchange with the man who matches the description of the shooter. it captures an intense conversation which ends in gun fire.
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in that conversation the shooter does not espouse jihadist ideology and he claims to be german. he speaks in a southern german accent. he seems to have a disturbed mental state. erin, right now it is not clear at this hour what his motive might have been, whether he might have been espousing islamic ideology or not. it is very unclear at this moment and of course, we do not have a suspect in custody or confirmed dead. they are looking into the possibility that one of the people who was killed might be a shooter. >> all right. brian todd, thank you very much. lynn stein works in that mall and was inside when the shooting happened and obviously this story now developing. lynn, you witnessed this. you are now dealing with a man hunt in a shutdown city. i know it's terrifying and shocking to you. can you tell us what you heard? >> um, what i witnessed myself or what i heard of the people around? >> what did you witness yourself when you heard shots?
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>> yeah, i was in the mall and i was working and i took a little break to buy something for myself so i was in the store and talking to this lady that was selling things and suddenly there were shots fired. we just heard the noise and we didn't identify it right away. people started running outside. there were several shots, maybe six or seven, and i just ran. i ran as well, and just ran outside and waiting for what was going to happen or what was happening and people were screaming and were very confused and everyone was standing around and not knowing what to do and everyone was running. so i waited there, and i tried to call my coworker and she didn't answer the phone and i didn't know if she was safe or not, and waited a couple of minutes. i heard gun fire and to me it sounded like it came from a parking garage that was next to the mall, but it could have also
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been from behind the parking garage and that was the place where the mcdonald's was, so maybe it was that. when that happened i went back inside to check on my coworker. when i walked in, i saw the stores -- some stores were closed down and evacuated. others, there were still people inside. i talked to them, and i said are you okay? do you know anything? they're, like, no, we don't know. should we close down? yes, please, close down your shop and leave immediately. so i keep walking and then this man that's walking with me, he turned around and kind was running and he said he's downstairs, he's downstairs and we have two floors. he said he's downstairs. i ran to what was my store. on the way i saw someone lying on the ground maybe dead or definitely injured and a woman was over him and she was crying and she was trying cpr.
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my coworker wasn't there, and i think there were more shots at this point of time, so i just grabbed my stuff, and i ran outside and that was where the police was and they told us to leave the area and you know, all that. >> and i know -- that was pretty -- >> you went back inside, lynn, to help your co worker and look for your coworker. have you -- have you located that person? do you know that they're okay and what else did you hear happened inside that shooting? >> yeah. i got in touch with her later, and she said she was hiding out in a storage place inside the mall with some other people, but she didn't tell me a lot of things. just basically it was the same things that happened to me, and she saw people running and screaming and she just ran, as well. she also told me that she went back to the store to close it after a couple of minutes, and
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then went to hide, i think. >> that's basically what she told me, but the problem with her apparently her phone shut down and both me and my boss tried to reach her later and couldn't reach her. we didn't know what was going on. later somebody saw her board a bus, so she seems to be okay. >> lynn, we appreciate your taking the time and telling us a bit of what you heard and saw and thank goodness you're okay. paul cruickshank is our terrorism analyst and he knows the area of area of munich well and he's with the criminal investigative division of the fbi and chris sits on the house intelligence committee. >> i want to start with you. the president's been briefed on this attack. what have you learned that you can tell us? >> very little right now, erin, but we are grieving for our friends in germany and for whatever reason this terror attack was carried out, again we
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see that europe is in a new era of terrorism right now and we're reminded that when people who have evil hearts have access to very dangerous weapons this is what happens. >> and let me ask you, chris, what do you think happened here? obviously, when you hear this one of the things that stands out is this was a mcdonald's. this is an american brand, it is a western brand. a brand that stands for the epitome of the west and now that could just be coincidence and it could be something else. >> yeah, unfortunately, erin, we live in a time when the presumption that it's a terrorist attack when you see a mass, crowded place like a shopping mall and mass casualty, shoulder weapons and someone that's obviously had some type of training or practice and has practice with a weapon. the presumption is that it's a terrorist attack. we don't have the facts, unusual after eight, ten hours now and we don't have much to go on.
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>> obviously, there is a massive man hunt. they don't know how many attackers there were. they're using the plural and they have special forces from germany coming in to munich and the city is shut down. how dangerous is this man hunt right now and how many are we looking for? >> they're looking at whether there are additional suspects and they don't know that. in fact, the attacker may have been acting alone or may already be dead and that's one hypothesis that they're looking into right now. this video has emerged and we'll be playing later on the gunman on the roof where he's ranting and raefing. it's filmed bystandersby, and he appears to be significantly mentally disturbed and talks about how he's in treatment. this may not end up being a terrorist attack at all. it may end up being the terribly disturbed actions of someone with severe mental health issues and we just don't know if there are more gunmen on the loose.
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german authorities clearly not taken any chances and they've sent in the commandos to try to figure out if they can find anybody in the city, but this may, in fact, already be over. >> of course, we don't know. colonel layton as paul said, there may be one shooter or maybe three. they're looking for as many as three and they've been hunting across munich for several hours. how far could shoot verse gotha gotten? this sounds like boston when they were looking for the tsarnaev brothers. >> like boston, munich has been shut down just like you described. they probably could have gotten, in seven, eight hours they could go far. theoretically they could have gone through austria and made it all of the way to italy or the czech republic. i think it is unlikely that they did that, but it is certainly theoretically possible and it doesn't take much with roadbl k
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roadblockses to get far with the audubon. >> we don't know motive at this point, but the fact that it stands out to many americans that are watching that this happened in a mcdonald's? >> that's right. >> you have a western restaurant, and the soft target. you have children being targeted. it is terrorism and we'll get to the bottom and what name it was carried out in, but right now we're seeing that successful acts like this whether it's orlando, san bernardino or dallas, they inspire others who may be deranged or have their own issues to want to go out or carry out the attack and whether it's isis directed or carry out the attack and the spree of mass shootings across europe or the united states may be fueling others to take up arms or carry out something vicious like this. >> all of you are staying with me. next, the breaking news continues of the terror attack and a new video that we have of
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that attack or the rooftop and we'll play that for you to get a sense of what happened in this senseless and evil act. plus hillary clinton about to reveal her vp. our latest reporting on who it will be and whether we can find out imminently. and ivanka trump selling her convention look. she went out on twitter saying you could buy it. is that okay?
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breaking news, a massive man hunt under way. police say three attackers on the loose after opening fire at a shopping mall in munich. nine are dead and officials say it looks like a terror attack and those are the words of german officials. one shooter appears to be videotaped opening fire at a mcdonald's outside of the mall and and against pedestrians in the mall as you are seeing. the city under virtual lockdown. people are urged to stay home and they are desperately in a man hunt, searching possibly for as many as three attackers and this comes as europe is on high alert for the attacks. we have the attacks in nice, the attacks in paris and an attempted attack on a train in germany just this week. u.s. officials were predicting a
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summer of terror in europe and we have seen in just the past week some horrifying acts. >> that's right, erin. it was going to be definitely a high alert across europe from spain, italy to germany and france and of course, in brussels where we have seen so much terrorist activity in the past year, but really, what is surprising is how much time passed this summer before we saw any of these, vens and now it seems we're seeing a lot of it, first in nice and now this event today. we still don't know and there's still no indication yet that this is an islamic terrorist attack and whether or not there's some other group and a right-wing group that might be behind it and it is certainly something that has the attention of law enforcement here in the united states and intelligence officials because they've been picking up so much chatter about the possibility and about the intent of an attack in germany in particular this summer. there was a lot of concern that not only the return of some of these foreign fighters who are coming back from syria and iraq,
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but also that the possibility that isis has hidden some of its operatives among the big flow of refugees that have now taken -- made jump me their home, erin. at this point we are still waiting to hear from the german authorities what the cause of this attack might be. >> i thank you very much, evan perez. my panel is back with me, and you know, paul, this week, a teenager inspired by isis attacked people on a train. one that didn't get a lot of coverage in part because we were talking about the convention in cleveland, but we had the attacks in france, the attacks in belgium and the attacks in nice. when you put all of this together, what do you make of this? they called for attacks across europe and whoever is committing these attacks that is what we're seeing. >> that is exactly what we've seen in recent weeks and months in europe, a whole spate of attacks and isis-directed and
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isis-inspired attacks and this week in the uk and norfolk, just to the north of london there was an apparent hostage attack of a british serviceman at an air base and he managed to get away and looking into whether there were terrorism ties in that case, as well, but i can tell you the context here in germany is of intelligence services more and more worried about the isis-directed attacks in isis-inspired attacks in germany and they've received intelligence that isis was trying to recruit their german fighters to send them back to germany to launch attacks and they found it more difficult to persuade germans or the belgians to do that and there have been 800 germans and many of them with isis and it gives you the idea of the possibility that isis has in terms of targeting germany and also very recent intelligence with isis
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operatives reaching out directly to people inside germany and there are followers to try to get them to launch attacks because they're losing ground in syria, iraq and libya and they want to change the conversation. >> i want to show you the video paul mentioned and one of the shooters yelling from a rooftop. you are listening to it which is in german. what did it tell you? >> there were be on 16ities the obscenities and it went back and forth and the person who was possibly the sheeter was speaking in a southern german accent and it is an accent not norm lool ally picked up by peo that are refugees and it is limited to munich and the southern bavaria area and it is very clear to me that it was someone, if that was the shooter, of someone who is not related or affiliated with isis
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in this case. congressman, when you put this in condition text of what we're finding out in the united states today, three florida residents charging to conspiring with isis and one of them in the airport supposedly getting on a plane going over to join isis. that was just today. people don't hear about that because they weren't able to stage an attack or pull an attack off, but yet they were on the path. how worried are you right now? >> i'm most worried about an isis-directed attack in the united states, and it's really the work of the fbi and our border protection that keeps them from coming from the battlefield in syria and iraq to come over here so it's those last-points departure like london and like munich that have direct flights to the united states. if they make it over here there are so many weapons that are available and recipes for how to take household items like the boston marathon bombing to carry out an attack. we have to fight the inspired attacks and do the work abroad
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but erin, i'll say the instability in turkey cannot come at a worst time and they're in a lynchpin and fighters transiting from western europe to the battlefield and turkey is not a faithful partner in this and we are much more vulnerable. >> chris? >> this is something that's viral in a very sick sort of way. deliberate strategy on the part of isis to cast their seeds out there with that sick ideology and they know the odds are with them and there are a sufficient number of people out there that will latch onto it, and it only takes a few as we witnessed in orlando and other places where one person can inflict mass casualty with a shoulder weapon, body armor and ammunition. we're in an era where nothing really is off limits and there's nothing out of bounds for this type of ideology. we've got a real challenge and the fbi has a real challenge and not enough fbi agents to cover the ground they need to cover. >> i appreciate you tonight as
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we continue to cover the breaking story and the man hunt right now in munich, unclear rid now who carried out that terror attack as we carry out those headlines and have erin mclaughlin on the ground and donald trump speaking out about the terror munich attack and that is ahead. we are awaiting hillary clinton's vp pick. we expect she'll name a name tonight via social media. who will it be? will we find out this hour? we shall see. the biggest decision she has yet made this political campaign and this will be the crucial night. we'll be right back. tempur-pedic mattresses is that they contour to your body. it keeps us comfortable and asleep at night. can i take a nap now? (vo) change your sleep, change your life, change to tempur-pedic.
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and the baking news, we are awaiting hillary clinton's announcement of who her running mate will be for 2016. a name will likely be released via social media tonight. it could happen at any moment. we are awaiting this. clinton's campaign was expected to reveal her running mate this afternoon and the clinton campaign found how to proceed how to proceed after the attack in munich. clinton announcing her running mate would compete with a terror attack. clinton though did hammer donald trump moments ago at a rally.
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>> last night donald told us i am your voice. well, i don't think he speaks for most americans, do you? he doesn't speak for anyone who thinks our country should be standing together and not sprinterisprint splintering apart. brianna keilar is standing by. obviously the terror attack in munich changed their thought. >> reporter: it certainly put it in flux for sure, erin. the campaign is not saying anything about this timing specifically, certainly not publicly. it's really anyone's guess at this point, but we had heard that this could come out in the form of a text or a tweet or perhaps an e-mail to supporters.
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so we're waiting to see if that happened. some have thought, as you mentioned that this could happen earlier today. it does have to happen soon because tomorrow and this is still on the schedule, hillary clinton's first joint appearance with her running mate and of course, the convention starts on monday, so this is really something that she needs to try to deal with, and also try to shift the conversation away from donald trump and the gop convention. >> and at this hour, brianna, the front-runner. the front-runners. what do you see who it could be for this vp spot? >> reporter: there are front-runners, but i will spend my time talking about the front-runner because i think everyone will be floored if it's not virginia senator tim kaine. and i know some people will look at that pick and say there's not a whole lot of pizazz there, but for hillary clinton if she's trying to compensate against one of her weaknesses against donald trump and that doesn't seem to be with the hispanic community and it seems to be with white
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males and rust belt voters, pennsylvania, ohio and tim kaine, a white male is someone who might and is also a moderate and is someone who can help her with that and he has something she's emphasized a lot which is the ability to govern and he has a very long resume from not only be the governor of virginia and he is the senator for virginia and he was also the head of the democratic national committee, and he also speaks spanish. so if hillary clinton is going to disappoint some of her hispanic supporters who have helped propel her into the position that she's in, he is someone who certainly will speak about issues that matter to them in spanish and i think the campaign thinks that's something that can help. i will just say quickly, vilsack, the agriculture secretary also seen as another front-runner. cory booker, new jersey senator seen as a front-runner and the new jersey secretary tom perez
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also mentioned, but everyone thinks it will be tim kaine at this point. >> thank you very much, brianna and now the democratic mayor for philadelphia michael nutter and along with bakari sellers and david gergen and donald trump supporter. this is a crucial announcement for hillary clinton as it was for donald trump a week ago. he delayed his announcement because of the terror attack in nice, and now we have this horrific terror attack in munich happening tonight. how important is it for her to get this right? she does need to do this tonight, really. i think she does. she could wait until tomorrow so by then it will leak out and she needs to do it tonight and do it early. i suspect if she doesn't it tonight it will be the next half our or so and the role of this has changed so much in the social media and you used to do it with someone standing
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alongside you and these announcements on twitter is for me, lacks the drama of what we've had before. what's been interesting today that i think is striking is one more reason for going for a safe choice like tim kaine, and that's what he is, he's the safe choice, and the democratic strategists are saying after hearing the trump speech last night they think it's more important to go for the safe choice because they think the speech may have helped him and they have a tough race ahead and they think it might be better to go with the safe choice and you would have a woman and an african-american on the same ticket and that's a daring choice, and i happen to be a cory booker fan in a very tight election, there were strategists saying let's play it safe. >> an interesting thing there that brianna was saying, she needs to get the white male.
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it's not usually a group we hear referred to and in a sense that's progress in this country. now it's the white male, women. >> everyone wants to be wanted. >> everyone wants to be wanted, and it's interesting that that would be what she's going for and fight donald trump in the crucial midwestern states where he is fighting for people who feel disadvantaged by free trade for those white males. >> and obviously there are a lot of factors that go into picking the vice presidential candidate and is a person qualified to do the job? will they be able to step in and what's their judgment and you will be able to work with this person closely for the first five years and then you add in the other components and you want the most qualified person that you can work with closely and can step in. >> so well is the safe choice that may or may not excite some people and there are choices that could excite a lot of
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people and elizabeth warren is one of those choices and you said it is not her and there are some who hold out hope and cory booker, those two names can energize this ticket. these other names when you hear senator tim kaine, will he energize hillary clinton supporters? well, i think so. i think names like thomas perez energize and he'll be the first hispanic vice president that this country has ever seen, but to get to tim kaine, i think tim kaine does energize the african-american base and he was the mayor of richmond and has a great relationship and great ties to the african-american community and he speaks fluent spanish and after last night's speech where donald trump bastardized the immigrant community that will be profound especially if he's announced down in south florida tomorrow, but we're waiting and seeing, but this is an amazing time and i'm in philadelphia and the energy is crazy because everyone is awaiting this pick because it kicks off our week and it's our
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week to stand in the light and tim kaine is the person who i think -- i think it may end up being. >> how intimidating is tim kaine to you when you look at him and speaks fluent spanish and a white male and a group that donald trump does well with. a man who is very close with his religion, and a man who is a catholic and is this someone that would be tough to take, and kaine would be an intimidating pick? >> he certainly is the best of the picks that she's considering and no doubt about that, but there is a real surge as we've seen in this country of working class voters wanting to take their government back, and i'm not sure how tim kaine who was an avid supporter of nafta and an avid supporter of trade who has led the way to tpp and i'm not sure how that resonates and with the bernie sanders supporters and they have problems with cory booker and the same sort of things and the
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wall street ties and he took in $2 million from that sector and more than any congressional candidates in that two-year period and likewise with vilsack and the trade issues there and there are vulnerabilities here. >> go ahead, david. quickly. >> i just wanted to add one point. the key here is how much tim kaine will do for the ticket in virginia and that's why bill clinton is pushing him and that's why barack obama thinks highly of him. if they can win virginia bill clinton thinks even if trump were to win ohio and florida he can't make it to the white house if the democrats can take virginia and tim kaine is very popular there along with the governor and the other democratic senator. that would be very strong in virginia. >> we will take a brief break and all of you will be staying with me. hillary clinton and her crucial announcement of the v.p. pick said to be imminent. will it be tim kaine or are we in for a surprise? he's not going to let it die
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breaking news, donald trump responding to the terror attack in munich and the nominee released a statement that says in part, it threatens the way of life for all civilized people and we must do everything in our power to keep it from our shores. this comes after one of the most successful conventions in history and today he got into some parting shots to ted cruz because he refused to endorse trump. sunlener is f er is faer i er e front. >> the newly minted nominee, the freshly branded plane are trying to move forward. >> the party's just come together. >> 12 hours after delivering the most consequential and carefully tailored speech of his life donald trump is looking backward. >> i don't want his endorsement. ted, stay home, relax, enjoy yourself. >> renewing an old fight.
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somebody got booed the hell out of the place by thousands and thousands of people. >> resurrecting not only his feud with senator ted cruise, but again, raising a baseless attack on cruz's father. >> all i did was point out the fact that on the cover of "the national enquirer" there was a picture of him and crazy lee harvey oswald having breakfast. ted never denied that it was his father. >> trump's tirade is threatening to overshadow his triumphant moment and blunt the momentum coming off his convention. >> our next president donald j. trump. >> the nominee capped off the week delivering a more serious address. >> i alone can fix it. >> as he accepted the gop nomination thursday night in cleveland. >> our convention occurs at a moment of crisis for our nation. the attacks on our police and the terrorism of our cities
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threaten our very way of life. >> reporter: painting a dark and ominous picture of a nation in chaos. >> the first task for our new administration will be to liberate our citizens from the crime and terrorism that threatens our communities. >> reporter: that view drawing a quick rebuke from president obama today. >> this idea that america is somehow on the verge of collapse, this vision of violence and chaos everywhere doesn't really jibe with the experience of most people. some of the fears that were expressed throughout the week just don't jibe with the facts. >> reporter: and as is typical the newly formed donald trump/mike pence ticket is set to hit the campaign trail on
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monday and they will hold a few joint events and of course, erin, that is day one of the democratic convention in philadelphia. >> all right. sunlen, thank you very much. i want to get to jeff zeleny. we are awaiting this vice presidential announcement that you believe could be coming imminently. >> it could be, erin. it's coming very soon, i'm told by top democrats familiar with this process. as we speak hillary clinton is talking to some of those potential contenders that we've been talking about so much over the last few weeks or so and she's on the phone now. john podesta has been calling some as well and been giving people a head's up. this has not been leaking out all day long and the people in contention that have sat down one-on-one with the secretary in her home have not known the outcome of this. all signs from all democratic sides of washington and beyond point to tim kaine, the virginia senator, but everyone is not
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certain. even tim kaine is at a fund-raiser tonight in new port rhode island. he likely knows more than the others because he's had more conversations should it be him with clinton campaign officials, but she's making those calls right now and one of the reasons it is taking slightly longer here, but the clinton campaign was intent on getting this out tonight and remember they will be here. she'll be with her running mate introducing this person side by side here in miami and that is for a reason, erin. this state so critical and so important of a battleground sta state. senator kaine, tim kaine speaks spanish and he learned spanish as a jesuit missionary in honduras in college. he speaks spanish on the campaign trail and that is one of the most important clues, perhaps, as to who she will pick and we are told the announcement will come through text messages as well as social media.
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>> dana bash and gloria borger also joining me, as you heard jeff just reporting and is john podesta, the campaign chairman, with the vice presidential committee for hillary clinton who is making those calls right now? >> yeah, and we know who the favorite is as brianna was saying earlier and as jeff was saying and it's clearly senator tim kaine of virginia, but this campaign sure knows how to keep a secret and do it in an organized fashion here because nobody really knew because the call his not been made yet and that is why this has been delayed and complicated by the situation in munich. i think the big question we want to answer here when we get this decision is what kind of a choice is this? is this really a governing choice for hillary clinton? that's what she's been talking about, somebody she's comfortable with and someone she believes can govern. don't forget, she was first lady, and she was there when bill clinton and al gore worked
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well together. she was also there when bill clinton and al gore sort of had a separation, and so she understands what it's like when it doesn't work out. so i think that's sort of key uppermost in her mind. also, don't forget, virginia is a very important state coming this fall. >> all of you are going to stay with me. we are awaiting and this could come any moment and there is a crucial announcement and there is a favorite and it has not leaked and we do not know for sure whether it will be senator kaine or whether she will surprise us and we will take a quick break as we await this announcement.
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breaking news. hillary clinton about to reveal her vp pick. a source telling us the clinton campaign has been calling the teams for the losing vp contenders. those calls are going on right now. some of those calls being made by the clinton campaign. here john podesta, brianna keilar is out front. brianna, what are you learning? this could come any moment. >> reporter: we do expect this to come any moment. this is the time step, calling folks who are not going to be the vice presidential pick before the campaign comes out and says who it is. we were understanding that this could happen with a tweet, that it could happen with a text, perhaps an e-mail so we're waiting to see if that comes out
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in some sort of online forum, but i think everyone would be floored if it isn't virginia senator tim kaine. he has been far and away the front-runner. we've heard other names introduced here in recent days, but it seems like hillary clinton and those around her keep coming back to this pick of this vurj virj senatirginia sen not be the most exciting candidate to how liberals will feel about this, or hispanic or african-american voters will feel about this, and hillary clinton and bill clinton think this will be a solid choice. we're still waiting. >> dana bash, senator kaine himself has called himself boring. he's proud of it and he's not necessarily a bad adjective to apply to his name in his view, but he has some very, very important attributes as we've talked about, that he speaks spanish. of course, this announcement is
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in florida tomorrow and that's an indication and a leak of who it could be, but also, of course, he is a white male. a demographic that donald trump does extremely well with. >> i was just reading his bio on his senate website which says he's one of only 20 people to have been a mayor, a governor and senator and a question as to whether he would add vice presidential running mate or vice president to that impress of resume. i was going through some of the things that hillary clinton has said to give us clues about her decision making process, and one thing really struck me and she said she is afflicted with the responsibility gene, which means she first and foremost aside from the comfort factor wants to make sure that whomever she picks can do the job, can be vice president if she wins and if something were to happen to her, and you know, certainly there are a lot of qualified people in the democratic party and qualified people on her
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short list that we know about, but tim kaine has done it from the executive side and the legislative side and he was the chairman of the democratic party. >> dana bash, thank you very much. as we await this breaking news and the calls going out to those who did not get the vp slot and that announcement will be coming. we'll be right back. you're here to buy a car.
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thanks so much for joining us and don't forget can watch "out front" any time on cnn go as we await that vp presidential announcement from hill reclinton. we hand it over to anderson with "a.c. 360". good evening. thank for joining us. it is a busy evening and we are getting new information on the mass shooting in munich and we begin with hillary clinton about to announce her running mate, we are told. jeff zeleny has all of the latest and joins us now from miami. jeff, what do we know? >> anderson, i am told by top democrats close to this process that hillary clinton is going to announce this very soon. right now she's been on the telephone with some candidates who were in that final list, but were not actually selected. she's explaining her decisions why she did what she did and john poddest a t, the campaign