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special time again. sunday night at 10 with our preview of the democratic convention and then all of next week, we'll be at the cnn grill in philadelphia from 1 to 3:00 a.m. in philadelphia. get your seat and join us. it is amazing. everybody is watching. ac 360 starts now. good evening. thank for joining us. it is a busy evening and we are getting new information on the mass shooting in munich and we begin with hillary clinton about to announce her running mate, we are told. jeff zeleny has all of the latest and joins us now from miami. jeff, what do we know? >> anderson, i am told by top democrats close to this process that hillary clinton is going to announce this very soon. right now she's been on the telephone with some candidates who were in that final list, but were not actually selected. she's explaining her decisions why she did what she did and john poddest a, the campaign chairman has been on there.
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all signs across the party are pointing to tim kaine, the governor of virginia as the likely finalist here. interestingly, he's in new port, rhode island, and he just left a fund-raiser a few moments ago and he is going to be on his way to miami, if he is the pick as most democrats believe he will be and he will be introduced side by side with hillary clinton tomorrow at a campaign rally. the interesting thing about tim kaine, one of the reasons that he is so attractive to the clinton campaign i am told, he speaks spanish, fluent spanish and that is such a significant share of the electorate here particularly in her quest to defeat donald trump. so you can count on tim kaine, if he's picked tomorrow to be speaking spanish as he has at most every campaign rally so far. >> last i interviewed secretary clinton, what she always says is her decision will be based on who can take over the job as president. that's pretty much what everybody often says. obviously, there is a lot of
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politics involved in this, assuming if it is, in fact, that many democrats believe it's going to be tim kaine, besides speaking spanish which helps her particularly in a state like florida which is critical, what else does he bring to the table? does, you know, is there still that thinking that he could help her win the state of virginia or is that sort of thinking kind of no longer realistic? >> no, it is definitely one of the things that makes him attractive, of course. a former popular governor and a current popular senator, but tim kaine, if it is him, is not as much as an electoral choice, but a governing choice and hillary clinton told you this summer and she's said it other times that she does want a seasoned, steady hand in the government, someone who knows what is -- has executive experience, and interestingly, tim kaine sort of has it all. he has risen up the ranks from
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the city council in richmond. he was the mayor, lieutenant governor, the governor and now the u.s. senator. what's really interesting if you sort of stop and think about this, this is an outsider year, and anti-establishment year and tim kaine's resume is exactly what an insider, you know, would want to have. so it tells us something about hillary clinton, what type of a governing partner she makes and we've only talked about how this is her presidential campaign and this is the first time she has been able to pick a partner. she has been an active partner inch the white house in the 90s with her husband and she is making her decision to pick a partner, and i am told by people close to her, she took this very seriously and someone she can work with and why vilsack, former governor of iowa also on the final list of contenders. she trusts him implicit he and she turned to former governors
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members of the cabinet. and she's not looking for flash or sizzle. she's looking for someone with heavy government experience and of course, she believes that that is what amplifies her brand as she takes on donald trump. >> we should just point out, we are awaiting the actual announcement from secretary clinton about who her vice presidential pick is. jeff zeleny reporting that secretary clinton is talking to people on the phone as is john podesta, talking to some of the candidates who did not make it explaining their thinking on this. jeff stay with us. i want to bring in cnn political analyst gloria borger and political correspondent dana bash. gloria, just in terms of this race, clearly, there were some probably on the -- on the left in the democratic party who wanted an elizabeth warren, wanted somebody who might reach out more to bernie sanders supporters and certainly echoes a lot more of the issues that bernie sanders has brought to the fore. >> yeah, i don't think senator kaine would be the choice of liberals, certainly not the
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choice of sanders supporters. in a way it's more of a choice that would be -- would make bill clinton happy and more to the left of the party. i think what this tells us about hillary clinton is that she didn't do this to appease any group. she's doing it to appease herself. she wants someone she can govern with, somebody she can depend on. somebody who she believes has the resume that would prepare this person to be the next president of the united states. she's been in the white house when her husband got along with his vice president al gore and when he didn't get along with his vice president al gore, and she knows how difficult it could be. so i think she's making this choice based on her own experiences having seen it up close when she was there. >> dana bash, i mean, clearly, the speaking spanish is critical and not just in the state of florida, but in terms of just
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reaching out to as broad a coalition as possible. >> no question. it is an invaluable tool to have politically, for him to be able to go right into the hispanic communities across the country, particularly in battleground states like florida, and to be able to say why hillary clinton is the person who should be the president and do it in their native tongue. i think it's interesting how he even knows spanish and the fact that he's a jesuit and went to a jesuit high school not in virginia and missouri and he went on a mission to honduras and went to law school and did the same thing to learn the culture, to help. he was aiding students there and there he did learn the spanish language. anderson, i will tell you that
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that is a plus, but i also think -- if it is tim kaine, and we still have to say if because we could be surprised tonight, then i think it's a window into where the clinton campaign feels that they are comfortable and maybe it is on the liberal side of the democratic spectrum and where they need to reach out for the general election which is independents and republicans who just don't want donald trump to be president and would be comfortable with a solid choice that knows how to govern not to mention tim kaine and hillary clinton. >> we are awaiting the official announcement that we expect any minute now. i want to bring in the rest of the panel, and clinton supporter, christine quinn, trump supporter, scotty hughes and the national political reporter alex burns. there certainly will be some disappointment among liberals in the democratic party who perhaps wanted somebody who they feel would be more exciting and more in line with their positions.
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>> they sure would, anderson. if clinton does end up going with someone like tim kaine who would be a cautious, conventional voice with the general election and the burden is on folks like elizabeth warren and bernie sanders to fire up the faithful on the left and get them excited about this election, and i also wouldn't underestimate tim kaine's ability to sell himself and to tell a story about his record in virginia. maybe it does make people who are skeptical about him now a little excited. part of the problem is he's not been perceived as a party and that's what the democratic party has been looking for so far. >> christine quinn, as a clinton supporter, is kaine a good choice? >> think he's a terrific choice. secretary clinton wanted someone she knew was qualified to take over as president if god forbid that moment happened and she wants someone that she gets along with and has a good groove with and they clearly do. i think alex is right, if that's
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the choice, because there will be some concerns, you know, bernie and senator warren to rev the crowd up. i don't think it will be that hard. when you actually look at his record, he has 100% voting record with planned parenthood and all of the progressive and liberal groups -- >> we can now say the -- her pick for vice president is tim kaine. it is now official. >> there you go. >> i spoke and so it was. again, just to finish, she's got 100% voter record from planned parenthood. 90%, 95% from all of the progressive and liberal groups that do ratings out there and this is a guy that is on the quieter side, but a solid supporter of progressive, democratic values. >> if jeff zeleny is still standing by, is jeff still with us? >> jeff, do we know -- how was the announcement made or has it officially been made?
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what do you know? >> it is going to be made very shortly, i am told. i am told by a top campaign official that it is tim kaine. i just received word of that a second ago. anderson, an important point to make here is this completes the circle with the clinton/obama relationship. there was no one closer to president obama than tim kaine. he was on his short list in 2008 some eight years ago and he ultimately decided joe biden and he became the head of the democratic national committee, but tonight this completes, i think, this relationship between the clinton organizations and the obama organizations and he was informed by secretary clinton that he was the choice. she has called everyone else on the list including vilsack, someone she's very, very close to, but she has decided tim cane for all of the reasons we've been talking about tonight and it's not just that he speaks spanish, and he is a good governing partner and he is ten years younger than her and that
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is a good look for the party going forward here and once every other democrat was informed, she informed her own staff. many of the people didn't know themselves that tim kaine was, in fact, her choice, and he'll be here in miami tomorrow at florida international university around noon time for a rally for some 60% of the students are hispanic and that is the takeaway that the clinton campaign wants to hammer home and they're trying to rebuild the obama coalition that took him to the white house in 2008 and 2012. she needs help on that front and he helps with white voters, at least they think he will. so this decision tonight not a surprise, but an interesting pick, no doubt. >> gloria borger, i think david axelrod last night was saying for a vice presidential pick, probably the two most important nights are the speech that the vice presidential pick makes at the convention and also the vice presidential debate we now know
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will be tim kaine against governor pence. how do they stack up? >> you know, they're both people who have been involved in government. you know, each -- each, you know, have run their states and each of them have served for quite some time. you know, pence was in the house of representatives, and kaine in the senate. neither of them are particularly fire brands. each of them was, in a way, a safe choice for their nominees and so the debate will probably not be full of fireworks, but you know, these are the people when donald trump picked mike pence, he went to someone whom he thought could help him govern. when hillary clinton went to tim kaine she did exactly the same thing and trump did it because he's an outsider and hillary clinton did it because she feels she knows what she needs because she's been in government. when you look at this ticket now, it's people with decades of experience in government.
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there is no outsider on the democratic ticket at all because her comfort level is somewhere else. >> and dana, when -- i lost my train of thought. let's go to our clinton folks. scottie -- our trump folks. what do you make of this? you were obviously a trump supporter. >> i think it's interesting to see the parallels between the two tickets. if you want the two candidates to make them look centrist. mike pence definitely looks serious with his conservative ratings and now we're seeing that senator kaine has a zero, and you're right about the race. he has a 0%, the only lifetime member to have a conservative union rating and so he's very much to the left. he's very much progressive and makes hillary clinton look like a moderate democrat. the parallels between the two are just incredible and the governors i think you will see some comparisons between how they govern and who has done a better job with virginia and indiana, and i would be careful with that because there is d.c. located in virginia and that's
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where the revenue comes from. donald trump, as far as talking about the spanish-speaking and i think he went to rosseta stone and this will be such a big factor. >> i think the choice for pence for trump sort of allowed hillary clinton to make perhaps a safer choice? >> yeah. absolutely because i was just thinking of going back to the vice presidential debates over the last few election cycles where people actually tuned in and wanted to see them. people wanted to see sarah palin against joe biden and they wanted to see joe biden and this time it was do no harm on both sides and they were very safe picks for them and hillary clinton, i knew she was never picking elizabeth warren. sorry progressives. that was never happening. she was never picking bernie sanders and she was never picking anyone that she couldn't control or anyone that would potentially overshadow her. she wasn't going to do that. hillary clinton, she is a political animal and so is tim kaine.
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they're comfortable with each other and really, he's not bringing anything to the ticket for her except for stability. so what clinton is doing, she's trying to draw a contrast between donald trump who goes off the rails, is rogue and can't trust him with the nuclear button and all those things and look at me, i'm the steady hand. look at our team. we're the ones you can trust, and i think that picking someone like tim kaine who rather vanilla compared to some of the others brings that to her. i think that's a risk because i don't know if the independents will look to that ticket and say this is who we want because it's an outsider year. people are upset with the establishment. >> i assume given the reliance in data of the clinton campaign and the data that they have access to, that they have looked at this in every different way about how tim kaine benefits them and must have made a calculation that he does benefit them. >> even not having access to the data that the clinton campaign has and if you look at tim
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kaine's record in his past elections, this is a guy who appeals to suburban moderates and educated white women and the soccer moms and security moms president bush was known for for going after in his campaign and who voted for barack obama in 2008 and appealed many of them to vote for mitt romney and that's a group that would be very much in play for the republican candidate and donald trump would have to do a lot of work with. his choice of mike pence in some ways is a parallel between the two tickets and they'll assure a certain sense of swing voters that it's okay if you vote for us and for tim kaine, it's reassurance on character, and reassurance that she's not a liberal fire brand or anything like that and for donald trump -- >> but -- sorry, the pence choice, if you think about it in a general election context, it may have solidified the far right wing super conservative part of the republican party, but it really pushed out any
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chance, in my opinion, of bringing in independent women and any chance of making inroads which i think they never had a chance, but regardless, in the latino community. i mean, they picked somebody who is not going to help grow their voters, in my opinion, at all, and in fact, is really quite alienating particularly on the issues of choice and lgbt and immigration. >> after last night, i think that conversation's changed amongst the republican party as it was well demonstrated to to your point on this, if he was senator of idaho, is this a warning sign that hillary clinton as the polls were in virginia and it was a four-point difference between her and donald trump. this is a must-win state and this will make it easier for her and maybe she's not feeling that mcauliffe will pull the state in for her. this definitely made it hard or the electoral map for donald trump with this choice. >> dana, what were you going to say?
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>> scottie is talking about virginia, and i think that brings up a good point that, you know, i covered -- i cover senator kaine in the senate, and you know, maybe he's not the most exciting person in the world, but he has a personality. he really does, and they like to joke and i guarantee we'll hear about this in the days to come about the fact that he plays harmonica with a bluegrass band, but much more importantly, but i think when you look at tim kaine, he brings such a full package, policy, governing and politics. policy, he's on the foreign services committee, he's on the arm services committee and foreign relations and economic policy. he is on the -- he is somebody who has according to his website because i was reading his bio just to make sure there were aren't things i didn't know and one of 20 people in american history who has been a mayor, a governor and senator.
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so they are those kinds of things that you'll hear about his biography and also chair of the democratic national committee and he gets politics and fund-raising which is a big part of being a running mate, and so that combination combined with the basic that hillary clinton is comfortable with and he clearly fits what she has said that she's afflicted with the responsibility gene. she needs somebody who she knows can govern if needed. you know, that's why i think for a long time now, people have been looking at tim kaine as the best possible choice if she feels -- >> jeff, i understand you have details in how the calls went down? >> i do. at 7:32 tonight, anderson, a short time ago, hillary clinton placed that call to tim kaine. he was in new port, rhode island. he was going about his schedule today, and he was at a
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fund-raiser for jack reid and a popular draw on the fund-raising circuit and at 7:32 p.m. tonight we are told by a clinton campaign official she placed the call to him. they've had many conversations along the way here and they were together last thursday in anon dale, virginia and her face lit up when he touted her virtues particularly in spanish. she didn't necessarily know what he was saying, but she was struck by that and hillary clinton called president obama tonight at 7:48 p.m. and informed him who she had picked to be her vice president. of course, he had been quietly supportive of tim kaine. tim kaine was the first governor back in 2007 to endorse barack obama. they're about the same age, a little bit younger, the president is, but she called the president tonight at 7:48, i am told, to make that announcement to him. so other phone calls and things are going on now, new
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congratulations are coming out to tim kaine. important to point out, the democratic convention will have discord, as well. he does not fit the liberal strain inside the democratic party, but you wonder why elizabeth warren and others were aren't picked, his is a safe senate seat. his seat will be appointed by a democrat ic governors and all of the others are republican governor. >> and perhaps of the leaked e-mails from inside the dnc showing that they were sending negative e-mails about bernie sanders and trying to raise questions about his religion hoping that he would be asked about that. a lot more to talk about about this choice. we'll take a short break and our coverage continues in just a moment. i just want to find a used car without getting ripped off. start at the new show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. [laughs] ah... ahem... show me the carfax.
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kaine to be the running mate and it will be announced at florida university. i am proud to announce tim kaine, a man who has devoted his life to fighting for others. senator cory booker said it this way -- kaine is able. i want to go to cnn's brianna keilar. what are you learning, brianna? >> hi there, anderson. i've been talking to sources and one told me that tim kaine was the only candidate amongst the bunch that hillary clinton considered who actually got two meetings with her. one was last thursday when hillary clinton and tim kaine campaigned in annandale, virginia, and the house in whitehaven that she shares with bill clinton and tim kaine came by late the night from 9 p.m. until 10:00 p.m. when they spoke and it seemed like this revolving door, almost of other vice presidential candidates who
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were going in and out of the house meeting with hillary clinton and her close aides. i am told tim kaine, we knew he wasn't there that day and he was invited back the following day on saturday for lunch. he was joined not only by hillary clinton, but former president bill clinton as well as chelsea clinton and her husband mark mezvinsky. chelsea clinton so important even as an adviser to her mother, and then after hillary clinton had met with everyone i'm told that she was given some advice from her campaign chairman john podesta, that he said to her, remember, this is someone when you're going to be working with every day and you need to be excited when they come into the room, that you need to be happy to hear their advice. tonights it was hillary clinton calling tim kaine first to tell him that he had earned this spot and then she called the folks who didn't make it and just something really interesting that i've learned from this
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source. this process began back in april and the clinton campaign was actually vetting a list of about 30 candidates. 30 different candidates, so it was a pretty long list, and there was a vetting an initial vetting information that was put together and john podesta, the chairman of her campaign brought all of this in a large book, basically a vetting book of all of these possibilities to her house in chappaqua, new york, and i am told by this source that he concealed it in a plastic duane reade shopping bag as he took it into the house for hillary clinton. >> interesting details there, brianna. thanks very much. more now on senator kaine, who he is, and things you might not know. jeff zeleny has that. >> are we ready for hillary. >> reporter: hillary clinton and tim kaine, new partners on the democratic ticket. >> do you want a you're fired president or a you're hired president? >> it may be an
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anti-establishment year, but clinton's running mate is an insider. the u.s. senator from virginia and a former chairman of the democratic national committee. >> and if i have anything to do with it we'll win again. >> reporter: by selecting kaine, clinton is betting that experience in government, not sizzle is the best way to defeat donald trump. >> elections are just the beginning. the real work starts tomorrow. >> reporter: he's neither flashy nor show boat. a seemingly safe pick and steady hand, just what clinton told anderson cooper she's looking for as a vice president. >> i want to be sure that whoever i pick could be president immediately if something were to happen, that's the most important qualification. >> reporter: so who is timothy michael caine? a decade ago as governor of virginia he introduced himself in the response to president bush's state of the union address. >> i worked as a missionary as a young man and i learned to measure my life by the difference i could make in someone else's life. it was that stint in honduras that shaped him.
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he speaks spanish and makes him a different attack dog for trump. >> if you're a latino he'll trash talk you. >> born in minnesota and raised in kansas. >> the best choice i made was move to richmond to marry my wife ann 26 years ago. he built his political career in virginia he was rising from city councilman and mayor of richmond to lieutenant governor and governor. he's 58, ten years younger than clinton, known well inside the party, but not beyond. >> i'm not the one with the biggest profile. i'm not the one that's the best known. >> he signed on with clinton early this time around. endorsing her in 2014 more than a year before she declared her candidacy. for an original barack obama supporter, it was a chance to make up for lost time. >> give it up for tim kaine! >> his politics are more moderate than the liberal strain driving today's democratic party. he's catholic, outwardly moved by pope frances' visit last year. his views on abortion are far
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more conservative than most democrats as he explains in this interview. >> i'm personally opposed to the abortion and the death penalty and i've lived my life that way. and the law is what it is and i will protect women's legal rights to make their own reproductive decisions. >> he's also spoken out forcefully against the administration. for failing to seek congressional approval to fight the islamic state. >> the war against isil is just and it's necessary and noble, but it's illegal. there's been no congressional authorization for this war. >> it's an open question whether kaine fits the mold of today's red-hot politics, yet his selection could help soften clinton's partisan edges. >> when it comes to our leadership in the world, trash talking ain't enough and we need a bridge builder and we've got a bridge builder in hillary clinton. >> jeff zeleny, cnn, washington. >> a look at the new pick for vice president by secretary clinton. we'll continue the conversation throughout the evening and late word out of munich on the mass
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there's more breaking news tonight. police in munich, germany, have updated the public on tonight's active mass murder. ten people were killed, he apparently took his own life, but not before taking so many others. [ gunshots ] >> cell phone video shows the moment a man outside a mcdonald's firing as people fled. >> we went down on the street and there were people, like a small family who had just run away from the shopping mall and they told us that they had heard gunshots, and people were running around screaming and people were scared. so we went upstairs again to be safe, and there were a lot of people, like about 50 people running towards our house to seek shelter and there was a helicopter circling above us for about 20 minutes and sirens and there were still people walking
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on the street very confused and nobody knows what was really going on. >> cnn's barbara starr has the latest on all of it starting with the video you just saw. she joins us from the pentagon. a lot of unanswered questions at this point. what do we know at this hour? >> unanswered indeed, anderson, including this man's motivation, really. intelligence and security services for much of the afternoon holding their breath, worried at least that this was another isis attack. that may not be the case now. all of the indications now, this man, 18 years old possibly an iranian german was acting alone and committed suicide after carrying out his attack killing nine other people at this mall site in germany, said not to be known to german authorities. a very interesting piece of video emerged today taken from several cell phones in the area apparently showing this man perhaps in a disturbed state
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talking, not exposing any jihadist ideology. the indications are that he was from a an economically depressed area of germany. have a look at this video. we have bleeped out a good portion of it and it is not suitable to a broadcast.
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>> so that's him yelling and interacting with some witness,
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some man is kind of yelling back at him and cursing at him. he says he was born in germany or grew up in germany, correct? >> right. that's what he's indicating. we are not really sure at this point how much of this is true, and that is also -- we have to say again, translation of some of the key points in that video, and we can't show it all, but some of the key points that we found. so a full investigation under way, but look, this man terrorized, you can call it terrorism, terrorized a city for much of the day. a major city in europe, and the u.s. embassy quickly issuing a statement telling all americans to take cover. the u.s. military was trying to account for every military member that might be traveling somewhere in germany. he brought munich to a halt. lots of rumors that there had been multiple gunmen. we often see it in these cases, but tonight at least, the munich police believe this was a sole gunman. they will still be investigating and looking for any motivation of what was behind his killing
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rampage. anderson? >> we should also point out and we don't know the motive of this person and we don't know much about this person's background and munich is one of the cities that has received a lot of refugees coming in. germany has taken in anywhere from 800,000 to a million or so mostly from syria and coming in through turkey and greece and then onward. there is a very high level of worry about isis targeting germany. >> absolutely. you know, set this entire -- pardon me, episode aside, the u.s. intelligence community throughout the summer has been cautioning that there is a very high isis terrorist threat across europe. they are very worried that isis is trying to send fighters into europe to carry out attacks and trying to inspire people already in europe also to carry out attacks. anderson? >> barbara starr. hillary clinton and donald trump commenting. secretary clinton tweeting
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monitoring the horrific situation in munich. we stand with our friends in germany. trump put out a statement reading our prayers are with those affected by the horrible attacks in munich. this cannot continue. the rise of terrorism threatens the life of all civilized people and we must do everything in our power to keep it from our shores. in addition to what she saw in barbara's report. president obama was asked about it specifically whether the attack vindicates donald trump's view of the world. >> when donald trump spoke at his convention he talked about the security threats and he painted a very dark picture. now there's been a terrorist attack in germany. >> right. >> doesn't that suggest he's right about the darkness? >> no, it doesn't. >> terrorism is a real threat and nobody knows that better than me. one of the best ways of preventing it is making sure that we don't divide our own country. that we don't succumb to fear, that we don't sacrifice our values and that we send a very strong signal to the world and
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to every american citizen that we're in this together. >> that was president obama earlier today. a lot of question for our panel. bob chuck -- bob crook shank and juliette kayyem, and bob baer, former cia officer and now our analyst. he's speaking high german and he has a slight south german accent and what does that tell you and what else stands out to you from that video? >> anderson, what you are seeing in the video is clearly a mentally disturbed individual who is ranting and raving. a little bit later you will see in the videos that he will shoot randomly at sudden points and does not appear to be a sane individual and the fact that this individual shot himself apparently after the attack suggested that he was not animated by jihadi ideology,
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because within jihadi theology there is a very strong prohibition against committing suicide. sure you're allowed to commit suicide bombings because it's a byproduct of the attack, but in islam and jihadi theology your not allowed to commit suicide and that is a point or a way to keep it away from being an islamist connection to this attack. >> he is speaking against turks and there is a lot of turkish immigrants in germany who work there and have been there for very long periods of time. initially, the german police said they were getting contradictory information and they believed there were multiple shooters, but at this hour, there's no clear understanding of who could have carried out this attack and they now say there was just one shooter. certainly had there been multiple shooters, and then the idea that this is an actual organized terror attack seems more real.
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>> anderson, exactly. when the police first started announcing this and putting out information they said they were multiple attackers and three attackers in various parts of munich and it's why they brought the special forces in and that's why they deployed around the city and that's why the u.s. consulate in munich advised americans to stay off the streets. so i think what we're seeing here is the german police were in a sense panicking because they're expecting an attack, but i completely agree with paul and the fact that he committed suicide and the fact that he's an iranian rarely are involved in these attacks and he was ranting on and on. it seemed like a random attack, a psychopath and going back to the german reaction they are clearly waiting for something to happen and that is why they reacted this way. >> juliette, there is a lot of concern about germany as i said before with barbara, being next in the cross fire. >> yeah, and they anticipated just picking up on what bob
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said, a lot went right today. it was a horrible day, but to the extent that there is a train of local and federal law enforcement, the minute this happened, they don't know what's going on. they don't know the motivation. it could be ten guys or it could be one and it could be isis motivated or it could be something else and getting the shopping mall cleared and making sure that the public was aware and germany was incredible in their communication to the public about what people in munich should do. closing mass transit, an important lesson out of july 7th attacks in london over a decade ago because you don't want people to be able to get away and you don't want soft targets and looking at this from the perspective of would germany be ready? this was an important exercise, too. >> yeah. certainly the bombing in brussels also taught them to close down the subway system and do it fast. general hartling you are very familiar with germany and their police force.
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she what about their operational abilities? how capable are they? >> they are extremely capable and let me suggest a couple of things in this operation and first of all, the police and the intelligence is very good. that's expect period upon they train together very well. i'm very impressed by the germans and i lived in germany for 12 years. the second thing we ought to take away from this is not every attack is an isis attack and michael weiss and i agreed with each other this afternoon that this is possibly 70% isis and 30% something else. it turned out to be the 30% something else and the third thing is this guy was a german. what he was speaking is not high german, but he was speaking with a bavarian accent and very visible to those that live there and most germans don't understand it. it's sort of like entering alabama and this guy lives there and there is a divide between the germans and the turks. the turks are currently being replaced by the syrian refugees, but there has always been sort
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of a racial divide between the immigrants that came there a couple of decades ago and you are seeing some of the hatred show off or the reaction to some of the hatred and ms. merkel has a challenge in pulling her country together after she has allowed so many immigrants in, but there is hatred forming for any refugees entering germany. >> to your point, it was odd that he grew up and lived in an economically depressed area that was largely a turkish area. >> this does come at a time when german television agencies were getting information that isis operatives in syria and iraq were encouraging attacks in germany. given the huge numbers of german refugees and migrants that have been accepted in germany and initially encouraged by angela merkel to come to germany, isis would like to have some of that population turn against germany.
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>> that's right. there's been a specific intelligence just in the last few days that isis operatives in syria and iraq have been reaching out to supporters in germany, urging them directly to launch attacks in direct communications and they've also tried to recruit german isis members to come home and launch attacks. so there's growing concern about isis directed and isis-inspired terrorism. just a few days ago on a train in southern germany there was an isis-inspired attack by an afghan refugee. there have been these million refugees coming into germany and there have been about 30 investigations where they've had hints of radicalization, and actually in most of those cases the radicalization have not been substantiated and there have been hardly any cases, anderson, of refugees coming in radicalized and they're more concerned about the refugees being radicalized by german radicals already inside the country. >> all right. i want to thank everybody on our panel again. our other breaking news story.
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hillary clinton has picked virginia governor tim kaine as her running mate and we'll have more on that ahead. also donald trump's i guess you could say tirade or him speaking out against senator ted cruz. we'll be right back. i am rich.
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our breaking news in the battle for the white house, hillary clinton as picked virginia senator tim kaine as her running mate.. meanwhile, donald trump is back in new york after wrapping up the gop convention. he gave his first speech of the general election just in time for before leaving cleveland. he started off thanking his supporters and it was pretty much back to the old donald trump. he went on the attack against ted cruz, his archrival in the primaries who snubbed him and refused to endorse him at the gop convention this week. >> reporter: today, donald trump couldn't resist the chance to settle old scores from his perch at the gop nom thee. >> i don't want his endorsement. just, ted, stay home, relax, xou yourself. >> reporter: at an event, trump quickly veered from the task at hand, insisting he doesn't want
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ted cruz's endorsement, arguing he never insulted cruz's wife, heidi cruz, even after he retweeted this unflatering photo of hers during the primaries. >> i tweeted a picture of heidi who i think is a very nice woman and a beautiful woman. i have to tell you, i think heidi cruz is a great person. i think it's the best thing he's got going than his kids, if you want to know the truth. >> reporter: trump, stepping on his own moment a day after the nomination where he largely stuck to the script where he vowed to work for the american people. >> i say these words tonight. i am with you, i will fight for you and i will win for you. >> reporter: while trump used his thursday night address to try ask rise above -- >> let's defeat her in november.
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okay? >> reporter: by friday morning, he was back to plumbing the depths of conspiracy theory, reviving a tabloid tail backle. >> all i did is point out the fact that on the cover of the national inquirer, there was a picture of him and crazy lee harvey on his wald having breakfast. >> reporter: and while trump spent much of his convention speech offering a dark assessment of the challenges facing the country -- >> i have a message to every last person threatening the peace on our streets. and the safety of our police. when i take the oath of office next year, i will restore law and order to our country. >> reporter: today, president obama is pushing back,
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maintaining that portrayal doesn't match reality. >> this vision of violence and chaos everywhere doesn't really jibe with the experience of most people. i mean, i hope people the next morning walked outside and the birds were chirping and the sun was out. >> reporter: in the wake of the munich, people will feel like they hit the right message in donald trump's speech last night. but a thing that could give republicans heartburn is whether or not they are disciplined enough to give that message until november november. >> in the next hour of 360, much more on hillary clinton's announcement. sh r she picked senator tim kaine and why she chose him, thx. so should we go with the 467 horsepower? or is a 423 enough? good question. you ask a lot of good questions... i think we should move you into our new fund.
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good evening. thanks for joining us. a very busy night, including details on the mass shooting that leaves ten people dead in munich, germany. we continue, though, with hillary clinton naming the tim kaine as her running mate. she tweeted, i'm thrilled to on dename my running mate tim kaine. jeff zelney joins us now.. secretary is clinton making her vp choice. talk to me about