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good evening. thanks for joining us. a very busy night, including details on the mass shooting that leaves ten people dead in munich, germany. we continue, though, with hillary clinton naming the tim kaine as her running mate. she tweeted, i'm thrilled to on dename my running mate tim kaine. jeff zelney joins us now.. secretary is clinton making her vp choice. talk to me about him.
what do we know about him. what's the appeal of him for secretary clinton? >> anderson, at the end of the day, she was looking for a governing partner. she told you that earlier this summer in one of her first interviews after her long primary fight with bernie sanders. let's go back to that. she didn't even consider bernie sanders. that was something that was discussed about for a long time after her long primary fight if she would have to go through the motions of that. in those early conversations, they both decided they would not announce it early on. in many ways, her list was short. do not discount the tight connections he has to virginia. the current governor of virginia, terry mccall live, very close to the clintons. he's very close to tim kaine. there was a comfort level there, i'm told. he certainly does not fit this
liberal strain of the party. but this is an early indicator if how elected she would govern. she did not want someone whose liberal policies were sort of going up against her in the west wing, but we just got a tweet from him, actually, his first comments since he was picked. let's take a look at this. he said i just got off the phone with hillary. i'm honored to be her running mate. i can't wait to hit the trail tomorrow in miami. and that is significant, as well, anderson. making the announcement here in miami, not in his home state of virginia, it is key that florida once again, ground zero presidential politics, wants to make clear that diversity will be front and center in this campaign. we've talked about how he's a spanish speaker. that's a central part of his biography, but not the only part. >> you've been learning a lot of the details on how the decision was made, when it was made and when he was informed and others.
>> he just received a call tonight. he was in new had order, rhode island, for a fund-raiser for one of his fellow democrats in the senate. ske got a call from her finally giving him the nod. i saw him a couple days ago this week in virginia. he seemed confident. he wouldn't talk about any of this because he's sworn to secrecy throughout this process. but he did not know until this evening. this was kept so secret. it want an edict from the very top to keep this as tight lipped as possible. the clinton campaign was watching that in astonishment. but it goes to the heart of who hillary clinton is. but, anderson, it cannot be said enough, this is the first time she has truly chosen a partner of her own. this is someone that she has picked. so now tomorrow when with they come out here in miami, her partner will look so much different than the 1992 images of the clintons and the gores
here. she wants to have him had around, she likes his company. she believes he will help electorally here. the reality is, this race is about the top of the ticket. hillary clinton and donald trump. we talk about the vps now but it's about clinton and trump. >> stay with us. want to bring in our chief political analyst, gloria borger and chief political correspondent, dana bash. gloria, to jeff's point about she's obviously been in the white house before, she's seen how presidents and vice presidents interact. how much do you think that experience shaped her thinking on this? >> i think an awful lot. she knows when it works as it did with clinton and gore early on and she knows what happens when it doesn't work. and you know, i think that she understands that this is the person that when the door closes and every other adviser is gone, and this is the person who will give the president advice and the last piece of advice.
and i think that's very important to her. look, she understands the downside of tim kaine. they both look like a bunch of insiders, in fact, that's what donald trump texted to contributors tonight, saying a bunch of insiders, obama, hillary and kaine, don't let obama have a third term. she knows that was coming at her. she knows that a lot of progressives won't like him because of his position supporting nafta and supporting free trade agreements, and so that makes him unpopular but in the end, as jeff was saying, she understands this is a decision about if you are elected how you would govern and this is the person you have to live with every single day and in many ways, depend on every single day. >> dana, does it hurt clinton with sanders supporters? >> it certainly could. but clearly, the clinton team which is as you mentioned earlier, very data driven, believes that they have
potentially bigger problem or maybe the flipside of that, a bigger prize in picking somebody like tim kaine, who is much more moderate as gloria talked about on issues like trade, even some social issues, but that could help her in reaching out to not just independents but republicans who are disillusioned with the trump candidacy and are looking for somewhere else to go. so it's that, but there's also something that you can't underestimate which is the map. not only is he from virginia and very very popular there, which is an important state, that she wants to kind of obviously put in her corner. they are in florida, going to florida, having a bi there tomorrow. that is a crucial, crucial state. so with virginia and florida, the map is much, much harder for donald trump to win with other states, even with, you know, never mind ohio but pennsylvania and others, he would have to get a whole bunch of states that are kind of toss-ups in his corner. so there's the politics but also, the thing i think we need
to keep in mind is that this is also hillary clinton doubling down on pick us, we can govern. we are a solid team, i'm sure she will say something along these lines. yes, they're insiders but the flipside of being an insider is somebody with experience and a team with experience. that is her main message already against donald trump and this just kind of amplifies it. >> stay with us. want to bring back the rest of our political panel. christine, tara, scottie and alex. christine, you are a clinton supporter. happy with this choice? >> i'm very happy. i'm most happy with this choice because i really think it was hillary's choice. i think this is the person she wanted. >> the person she's most comfortable with. >> without a doubt. i think you can even see that when they're onstage together. she really looks like she's having fun. that's the most important thing. second, i'm very happy with the choice because he's somebody who has been there on the issues that i and so many democrats care deeply about.
on gun control, on lgbt rights, on a woman's right to choose. he's someone who has always been in the right place and such a stark contrast to pence on the republican side, who has been in all of the wrong places. his voting record is perfect. that's an important thing to hear a person say, that he has his personal opinion but he understands the distinction between your personal opinion and what the law should be that affects others. >> -- who say they wanted more of a sanders or warren, what do you say? >> there's been a lot of conversation throughout the whole primary season about will hillary get the bernie supporters. all of the polling shows that we have gotten almost all of the bernie supporters. and part of that was because in the platform process, secretary clinton and her campaign were very respectful, consulted with the senator, brought his people in and i have no doubt that we are going to come out of this
campaign more united because the substance is there. >> alex, there are a lot of people when they hear a politician say this is about governing and this is the person who can step in, donald trump sort of mocked that answer, saying that's what politicians always say. do you think this really was about governing, or is this about politics? >> i think it's about both. i think in a lot of ways, governing is the political message here, that if you are hillary clinton, clearly you have made the choice that you are never going to be able to get away from the fact that you are a career politician, a washington insider who has been in public life for 30 years. what you need to do with the vice presidential choice is try to persuade voters to see that experience differently, to see it as a reflection of seriousness and sobriety in government as opposed to being out of touch and insular. we will see whether he can deliver that message tomorrow. >> it's certainly something donald trump will harp on. >> exactly. we have already seen it's an outside establishment year. she picked somebody just like her. i have this real question about comfort. i can tell you as a trump supporter i'm very happy with
the pick because i think this makes it a very easy argument to say why you need trump/pence. i was more concerned about cory booker who is very energetic or you look at julian castro. he is hispanic. if that's the way you would try to get that vote -- >> he doesn't actually speak spanish. >> but he's actually hispanic. >> we kind of win on the diversity of the ticket thing. hillary clinton, first woman. >> it's more than that. it's all about, these are politicians, status quo politicians. more of the same. >> you are conservative, not a trump supporter. do you think it's too safe a choice? >> i think it remains to be seen because this election has become such a cult of personality election. and this discussion now, cory booker or julian castro, that
was more of an entertainment pick because neither one of those are ready to be president of the united states. alex made the point this should be about governing. the people should make the decision on who they are voting for based on who best, is best suited to run this country. so not who fits a certain -- checks a certain box. the republicans are guilty of that, too, with certain picks. but democrats would do that also. i just don't think that's what this should be about. when people look at someone, and look at the ticket, they need to look at who is best suited to run the country. right now, when you see what donald trump does, there are many people like myself who think he is completely ill equipped to run the country, where you look at mike pence and go at least if anything happened we know mike pence is capable. but this is where i think the middle, the people who are undecided, they will say okay, do we want a show which is what we get every time donald trump comes out, or are we going -- or
want something a little more measured. i think that's going to be the ultimate question here. but emotion has really driven this election a lot. >> if our country was being run successfully, i think you would have a phenomenal point. but our country is not being run successfully. we are $19 trillion in debt. we have an issue with security. we are seeing low job growth. we have a problem that both sides can agree with. >> you have an amateur on the other side who has never -- doesn't know a thing about how to run the government. >> we just had two professionals, david axelrod and dan pfeiffer join us. also, a lone gunman is dead in munich. sadly, so are nine others. she spent summer binge-watching.
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we will hear from the two tomorrow morning, their first joint appearance together. first, former obama senior adviser david axelrod and another former senior adviser to president obama, cnn political commentator, tim pfeiffer. is it all about virginia, winning virginia? >> i think that that is only a small part of it. i honestly don't believe vice presidential candidates deliver states. i think lyndon johnson was the last one who actually did when he delivered texas for john f. kennedy in 1960. but what he does give her is someone who is stable, reliable, someone who won't make mistakes and someone who is clearly qualified for the office. remember, what she's selling right now is stability, reliability, temperament in contrast to donald trump. so tim kaine makes a lot of sense. then there's one other thing that he delivers and that's why the announcement is going to happen in miami tomorrow.
he was a jesuit missionary in honduras. he's fluent in spanish. and you will see that i'm sure on display tomorrow because florida's the great blocking state for hillary clinton. if donald trump can't dislodge her there, very unlikely he can win the presidency. >> dan, do you agree with that assessment? that virginia is only one part of the puzzle? >> yeah, i think virginia's only one part. politics is only one part. you need someone who crosses the threshold who will be an able campaigner, not make a mistake but ultimately you are picking someone that you are going to have to govern with for the next four to eight years. it has to be someone you like and trust. i think from everything i have read and seen, they have built a relationship. there's a lot of people who just don't buy that, who say come on, this is all about getting elected and the other stuff comes later. you really think that the secretary -- >> but -- >> go ahead. >> anderson, those people haven't worked in a white house. hillary clinton has had the
experience of having been in the white house for eight years when her husband was president, having been there as secretary of state and she understands how important that dynamic is between the vice president and the president, and i don't think she wants to saddle herself with someone who might be helpful for the next four months and unhelpful for the next four or eight years. one other thing that we should mention is as there are events overseas again. tim kaine not only has been a mayor of a very diverse city and governor of a swing state, but he also is a united states senator who serves on both the foreign relations committee and the armed services committee, and is very fluent in national security issues which is going to be increasingly important apparently in this election. >> dan, when donald trump picked governor pence as his running mate, do you think that gave secretary clinton an even bigger chance of picking senator kaine? if he had picked newt gingrich, someone more an attack dog, that might have changed her thinking?
>> it probably gave her more permission to do so in the sense mike pence versus tim kaine in a debate, it seems like a more natural thing than newt gingrich, for instance, who is a bomb thrower. but to go to your earlier question, i think this is a governing pick. i could make a better political case for cory booker, tom perez, sherrod brown, elizabeth warren than for tim kaine. i think he's a fine pick politically but i think she's clearly making a choice about who she wants to govern with and who she can trust. >> was there a need, some people perhaps wanted what they considered to be more exciting choice, i guess, elizabeth warren, maybe cory booker. i assume given the amount of data that the clinton campaign probably looks at, that they feel pretty good about the liberal side of the democratic party. >> yeah.
i think that they have looked at this every which way they can and should, and donald trump's going to take care of the excitement problem for hillary clinton. she doesn't need to do that with her vp pick. >> david, i got to ask about these leaked e-mails from the dnc, showing the dnc was sending e-mails, raising questions about bernie sanders' religion, trying to hope people would ask questions about that, to see how that would play in a state like kentucky and elsewhere. what do you make of that? seems like on the first look kind of plotting against bernie sanders. >> i'm sure it will go over very well with the sanders supporters. look, they already have put a big target on debbie wassermann schultz for this perceived tilt in favor of hillary clinton. what you hear from sanders supporters is yeah, they may not be happy with tim kaine but the thing they really want is someone else to chair this democratic convention because they are so furious at what they
see as bias on the part of the democratic national committee throughout this campaign, and this obviously is going to throw another log on the fire. >> the dnc just as with the gop, they are supposed to be remaining neutral until a candidate is selected. >> right. i think this is certainly unhelpful, particularly at a time when we have seen the sanders and clinton camps come together, bernie sanders endorsing, him responding to donald trump via twitter during that speech. so i think it's going to give more fodder for those who want to try to sow division. i think ultimately it won't make a huge bit of difference come november. >> thanks very much. one quick program note. tomorrow morning, wolf blitzer anchors hillary clinton, tim kaine's joint appearance. coverage begins at 11:30 a.m. up next, our other breaking story. an update on the mass shooting in munich. to express emotion, i would say that rocket mortgage has made me the happiest humanoid in the galaxy.
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mcdonald's and a mall was terrible enough. when the shooting was over, ten people were dead including the killer. joining us from munich, cnn's erin mcloughlin. what do we know about this killer? >> reporter: well, police have yet to release his name but what we do know is that he was 18 years old. he was a dual german and iranian citizen. they believe that he acted alone. he was not known to police, no prior criminal record. they also believe that in the end, he committed suicide. his body was found at around 8:00 local time, hours after the shooting not far away from the mall where he unleashed this horrific wave of terror. what police don't know at this point is why he did this, what were his motives. that is what they are trying to establish as we speak, anderson.
>> there was one witness who was on cnn who said that she heard him say allah akbar but there's this other videotape where he seemed basically mentally deranged talking about derogatory references to turkish people, saying he lived in ger germany in a turkish neighborhood, poor neighborhood. he has dual citizenship, germany and iran. what do we know about, are there any reports of links to a larger group? >> reporter: not at this point. that is something they are going to no doubt be looking very carefully at and as you just described, what ensued in the wake of this attack was just extreme chaos. different reports, different
eyewitness statements. initially eyewitnesses had told police there were up to three attackers and in that press conference, police say that they tracked down two individuals that they thought may have escaped from the scene via vehicle, and they were able to rule those individuals out at the end. we also know that there were these false reports of shootings elsewhere in munich. it really gives you a sense of the chaos and the panic that unfolded there. as i said, in that press conference, police say they do not know the motive of this attacker. they also do not know if he had planned this attack alone, though he acted alone is what they believe. >> what do we know about how it unfolded? we saw the video of him shooting outside the mcdonald's. there's also video of him on the roof of a parking garage. how did it unfold? >> reporter: well, in that press conference, police say that it began at a mcdonald's at around 5:50 p.m. local time. shots rang out, witnesses described fleeing the scene and
then it moved inside the mall and that's where they say most of the casualties occurred. ten people dead, including the gunman. 21 individuals shot and injured. many critically, including children. they do not know at this point how he managed to escape, how he managed to get away. very much part of the investigation right now. >> erin, thanks very much. back with our terrorism and national security panel. paul, the fact the police said the man who killed himself in the shootings was the only gunman, does that make you believe it was something other than isis inspired and also the iranian background? >> yeah. and the fact that in the video from the roof, he appears to be mentally deranged, ranting about all sorts of things and shooting erratically from the roof.
the fact that he committed suicide apparently from a self-inflicted gunshot suggests he was not animated by jihadi ideology. there's a very strong prohibition in jihadi theology about taking one's own life. suicide bombings are allowed because that's seen as the byproduct of an attack but suicide not allowed. they feel they would go to hell rather than heaven if they committed suicide. that makes me think probably not a jihadi link here. also the fact you point out, he's iranian. most iranians are shia muslims. there have in germany, it has to be said, some shia iranians who have converted to sunni islam and gone off to pakistan and joined al qaeda but those have been very rare, those kind of cases. i think there was some thought earlier there might be some right wing extremism link because of the five-year anniversary of the anders attack. the fact he's a german iranian national sort of takes us away
from that hypothesis. >> that attack was in norway five years ago. bob, what stands out to you? >> exactly what paul said. i don't think this is a terrorist attack. the man was deranged. the shia community in germany is politically inactive. they have been for 30 years. none of it makes any sense. the fact there weren't multiple shooters, which originally suggested it was the islamic state, i think this man was just deranged. what i have to ask is where did he get the gun. very difficult to get in germany. it's very worrisome that there are so many arms floating around europe. did not used to be the case. whether these people are terrorists, lone wolves, whatever they are, the fact they have access to guns, it's very bad for europe. >> how much do we know, german intelligence obviously, munich
is one of the places a lot of refugees have come to. obviously munich last year for oktoberfest following refugees coming in from greece, ultimately from syria. how much of a handle do the intelligence forces, the military forces and police forces in germany have on who's in their country now? >> it's tough. i was in germany about a month ago and talked to some former friends of mine who are in the government and they were saying that each one of the states, the 16 states in germany, handle their immigrants and refugees differently. they have been handed a group of individuals by the federal government and said here's your refugees, take care of them. some of the states clump them all together in what we would call ghettos. others try and spread them out into the population. they don't have a very good deal for how they're meeting as groups and when they're doing. to go to what bob just said in terms of the weapons flow, a lot of weapons are coming across from the former -- from the balkan states in terms of gun
running and gun trade. it was one of the things i saw, not only human trafficking but arms trafficking in europe. what we were trying to do as u.s. forces in europe was help the government prevent that. all of these problems are things that the germans are facing within the last five to ten years. they are very challenging. the culture has changed in germany. the government is changing and the people's view of some of these things are certainly changing. you know, again, the other thing that i would suggest in this whole action was the reporting that took place. was there one shooter, was there three. one guy reported this guy yelled allah akbar which is something shia also proclaim. another said he said i'm a german. all of these things were very confusing and i'm sure really put the federal police and local police in a real flip as they were trying to deal with what's going on. >> time and again we have seen these initial reports where often it says there's multiple shooters and a lot of times it's
just eyewitnesses seeing the same thing but from different angles and getting confused. >> that's exactly right. eyewitness reporting especially in the middle of the situation is inherently unreliable because they are just seeing it from an individual viewpoint. in almost all these attacks, even orlando, remember, we thought in the first couple hours it was multiple shooters in the bar. so the situational awareness was very difficult for the german officials. i will say, however, this was a test run. it is likely not related to the international terrorism that this panel generally is on about but in terms of the response, trying to sort of fortify and evacuate the shopping mall, closing down mass transit which is absolutely important during any of these major or even individual incidents and i have to commend munich for its communication, even though at the moment it was wrong, they were at least communicating to the public to stay put. that's essential for the public to know what's going on.
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as if it weren't enough already, more breaking news tonight. the answer perhaps to the long-standing mystery of what happened to malaysia airlines flight 370. we are just getting this in. it centers on the captain and the flight simulation software he ran as a hobby. a forensic examination shows the captain used the program to fly essentially a suicide route. joining us is cnn aviation correspondent richard quest. first of all, where did this information come from? what are the key points and what do you make of it? >> well, first of all, when the malaysian authorities took away the flight simulator it was sent to the fbi to decode it, because the fbi has special experience and knowledge. we have always known, there was this rumor out there that the
fbi had found that he had practiced, the captain, that he had practiced flying suicide routes or routes down into the southern indian ocean. this rumor has been around for a long time, pretty much from the very get-go. however, the fbi denied and it could never stand up. now "new york" magazine has stood it up and they have seen the document that actually outlines the route that the captain flew, practicing, if you like, for what was going to happen just a month later. >> richard, we are showing onscreen what is the two routes. the yellow is the actual route that the plane took. the red is the simulated route the captain practiced and you can see the similarities obviously, basically making that
turn and then heading to a point where i guess it would run out of fuel in the ocean. >> and if you look at those two things, the only difference between the two is the initial departure toward beijing where it goes up and round. if you look at the route, it does go up, it goes round the tip of indonesia and then starts a long journey down to the southern indian ocean. what do i make of it? it is everything and it is nothing. it is the clearest circumstantial evidence that he was involved in stealing his own plane or hijacking his own plane and flying it on a suicide mission. but it does not prove it in any shape or form. it is purely the sort of circumstantial evidence that has built up over time. with that in mind, what is very interesting is that they have known about this and they didn't release it. they never remarked on it. and they didn't even put it in
their first report one year after the event. >> that raises all sorts of questions. they put out what was supposed to be sort of this definitive report one year after and there was no mention of this. >> not only was there no mention of this, they actually said that the captain handled pressure well, there was nothing happening in his personal life and that there was no reason to believe there was anything amiss. they actually in that report went the other way and gave him a clean bill of health when by then, they must have known there was this potentially circumstantial evidence which even if not linked, even if not directly connected, surely should have been mentioned. so you're left with this very weird scenario where once again, the focus of attention is on the captain, a veteran captain, 16 years senior captain, but you're left wondering what does it tell
us. the truth is it adds suspicion but no proof. >> i guess there's two other ways. one is if a pilot were in fact planning this, would he or she really need to simulate it, and also, if a pilot was planning this, would they really need to just fly that long and then run out as opposed to just bringing the plane down into the water? >> i can tell you what you have elegantly put your finger on is the subject of comment between myself and all other cnn aviation analysts that we are going backwards and forward saying what does it prove, if anything. look, he could have easily just got a map out and worked out where the plane would have been. why do it -- and the other thing of course, as people are pointing out, he would have had
to sit through the entire simulation unless he ran it fast forward. then there's the question of was it deleted from the simulator or was it merely overwritten. again, we come to this point. we have known the rumor of its existence. what we now seem to have and we will need confirmation from either the fbi or malaysians, there will be fat chance of that, i'm guessing, is that it is actually accurate and it is confirmed. that's the least families can expect at this stage. >> i suppose another scenario is that this is just a captain who had been flying for a long time who wanted to simulate a variety of different kinds of flights. i'm not sure this would be, if that's a viable explanation as well. >> it is. it is. when we were discussing this earlier amongst ourselves, miles o'brien pointed out when you're using flight simulators, you do interesting things with them. you don't just sit them for seven hours on the cruise and
blue sky. so i can see that particular angle as well. no, the truth is, this is a very interesting serious development that casts a shadow of suspicion over the captain and needs to be answered. unfortunately, it will not help us understand where the plane is. let me be absolutely clear about this. everybody knows roughly the place where it is. it's off the western coast of australia. this map that you're showing bears that out. the problem is we're still left with those satellite bits of data as to where to get it and there's one other development in the last 24 hours which has got slightly lost in all of this. the malaysians, the australians and the chinese have decided that they will suspend the search operations after they have searched the current zone because they simply haven't got enough data to narrow it down anywhere else. >> richard quest, we will
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. plenty of strong reaction today from donald trump's speech, including president obama, who threw shade on the dark speech. >> the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon, and i mean very soon, come to an end. >> reporter: donald trump insisting he will restore safety to a nation under siege. >> homicides last year increased by 17% in america's 50 largest cities. that's the largest increase in 25 years. in the president's hometown of chicago, more than 2,000 people have been the vuk tictim of shootings this year alone. >> reporter: the washington post analyzed crime data for 50 major cities and found 770 more people
were killed in 2015 than the year before, a 17% jump, the biggest since 1990. and more than2,000 people have been shot in chicago this year. so trump's first claim is true. but, hold on. >> i think it is important, just to be absolutely clear here that some of the fears that were expressed throughout the week just don't vijive with the fact. >> reporter: even with the recent surge in homicides, violent crime started falling in the mid '90s and has kept going down, dropping 15% between 2009 and 2014. the latest year with complete numbers. >> the fact of the matter is, is that the murder rate today, the violence ralts today is far lower than it was when ronald
reagan was president. and lower than when i took office. >> reporter: the president's claim is also true. so. >> how can the republicans make the argument that somehow it's more dangerous today when the facts don't back that up. >> people don't feel safe in their neighborhoods. i don't know what statistics you are using. >> fbi suspecting. >> well, the fbi's suspect after hillary clinton. >> reporter: when the families are caught? >> they are being released by the tens of thousands into our communities, with no regard for the impact on public safety or resources. >> reporter: but homeland security says that's just not happening. trump's claim is false. you can see the problem here. each side in this debate has some evidence to back its claims, but if you don't think of it all at once, it's easy o
get a false impression. the most we can accurately say is that violent crime in this country has been declining for quite some time, and now it is moving up a bit. anderson? >> thanks very much. about 32 million people watched. eight years ago, john mccainened that title. did donald trump earn new supporters? here's what randi kaye discovered. >> i humbly and gratefully accept your nomination for the presidency of the united states. >> reporter: in the swing state of florida, where every vote counts, these voters are still undecided. >> i thought it was great, motivating, inspiring, but i was left with how are we going to accomplish this. >> reporter: they gathered for donald trump's speech, hoping it would help them decide how to vote. for most, the speech left them wanting more. >> i think he needs to start getting more specific as he moves down the road for me to
say i'll punch that ticket for donald trump. >> reporter: as one voter put it, trump sounded like a mr. fictifix it. >> he started that entire segment by saying he's going to create the largest tax cuts in history. well, then how are you going to pay for all that investment in strux and education? >> reporter: and when trump said this -- >> i am the law and order candidate. >> reporter: it was a turnoff for some. why does that scare you? >> it sounds like bully state. >> how are you going to enforce it? military state in curfews? what are we talking about? >> reporter: but this voter did like trump's tough talk on strengthening law and order. >> i carry a gun everywhere. i've never worried about police violence or minorities. i don't think we realistically have to think about a police state from donald trump. >> reporter: unlike some
critics, this group didn't find trump's speech scary or full of doom and gloom. they took comfort in his promise to keep america safe. >> ask any service member out there. it's devastating. >> he did seem to stick to the themes that have worked for him. did that work for all of you? >> not for me? >> i alone can fix it. >> reporter: lack beiing in the speech? a lack of his softer side, though one voter did see a twinkle of modesty. >> you say you saw humility. >> talking about the father and the children. >> reporter: when the speech was done, most in the group felt they could picture president trump in the oval office. did you feel ilike watching thi speech, you trusted donald
trump? >> yes, i'll give him that much. i feel like i could trust him. >> i will give him that i think he is less full of gas than i did previously. >> reporter: but only one voter decided on a candidate. did donald trump win you? >> yes, he did. >> reporter: in fact, six of our eight voters said they are strongly considering staying home on election day, randi kaye, cnn, tampa, florida. >> we'll be right back. aking ev. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet?
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