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9:00 pm nominate you think someone you think should be a 2016 hero. i'll see you right back here on monday night. good evening. thanks for joining us. welcome to the first day of the final stretch of a presidential campaign unlike any we've seen before. both candidates holding events throughout the day and during the program in states that could swing the election this fall. there is that to report on. there's our interview with julia assange who pub accomplished had the democratic e-mails that someone stole and leaked. breaking news. apparently a new facet of that same dnc computer hack this time involving clinton campaign data. jeff zellny joins us with more on that. jeff, what are you learning? anderson, in a statement a short time ago, and the clinton campaign said we have no evidence our internal systems have been compromised.
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but there is evidence that law enforcement officials are telling cnn that part of that dnc hack actually spread to other entities across the democratic party's organization. it has to do with the voter files and voter information files here. so they are still looking into that tonight. anderson, all this is happening as hillary clinton and tim kaine started their post convention bus tour here at temple university. they believe they're leading philadelphia with the democratic party largely united. now the question is, what about the voters in the middle. ♪ i made a vow >> the new democratic ticket is taking its show on the road. >> as of tomorrow, we have 100 days to make our case to america. >> reporter: hillary clinton and tim kaine on a three-month sprint to election day. >> what better place to kick off this campaign than right here in philadelphia where it all started 240 years ago.
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>> reporter: after a convention steeped in nostalgia they're challenge now, tapping into the country's hunger for change. >> i'm not telling you that everything is just peachy keen. i'm tell you, we've made progress but we have work to do if we're going to make sure everybody is included. their fight with donald trump is now the fully joined. as they try making him an unacceptable choice. >> the republican convention was like a twisted and negative tour. it was a journey through donald trump's mind and that is a very frightening place. >> so today, the democratic candidates set off on a bus tour of pennsylvania and ohio. evoking memories of another journey back in 1992. >> thank you. >> reporter: with the clintons and gores. this time the clintons are alongside tim kaine and his wife ann. still, focusing on the economy. >> we're going to be visiting a few places where people are making things. donald trump talks about make america great again.
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he doesn't make a thing in america except bankruptcies. >> a democratic convention rich in history. >> i accept your nomination for president of the united states. >> reporter: is now the script for how democrats hope to defeat trump. >> russia, if you're listening. >> reporter: she said he doesn't have the temperament for the oval office. >> a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons. >> reporter: safety and security not a central piece of her argument. >> donald trump says and this is a quote, i know more about isis than the generals do. no, donald, you don't. >> reporter: after a week in history philadelphia, clinton made clear the history-making moment that matters comes in november. >> i believe every time we knock down a barrier in america, it
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liberates everyone in america. every parent in this country could look at their son or their daughter and now say the very same thing. you, too, could be president of the united states. thank you all. god bless you! >> chip, talk a little bit about why the rust belt now is so important. >> anderson, the issue of trade, the argument of trade is front and center in this campaign. for the next weekend, the next three days, it is even more so. the clinton campaign trying to push back against donald trump's arguments that the clintons supported all these trade agreements in a very personal way to donald trump, talking about all of the outsourcing he's done for his various products. but another reason, if hillary clinton closes down donald trump's path through the rust belt here through pennsylvania, through ohio, through any chance in michigan or wisconsin, they believe they have effectively
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extinguished his path to the white house. states with more population like florida, virginia, nevada, colorado they believe are already in their corner. that's why they're starting right here in the rust belt after this convention. >> jeff, thanks very much. don trump speaks shortly in denver. he spoke earlier in colorado springs where had he plenty to say about hillary clinton's acceptance speech. more from jason carroll. >> just remember this, trump is going to be no more mr. nice guy. >> reporter: donald trump on offense taking aim at hillary clinton on the heels of this week's democratic national convention. >> i've been saying let's just beat her on november 8th. but you know what? no, no, you know what? i'm starting to agree with you. i'll tell you. after watching that performance last night, such lies. i don't have to be so nice anymore. i'm taking the gloves off, right? >> reporter: trump is also ignoring the advice of a friend
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who he says told him to stay focused on clinton. >> i was going to hit one guy in particular, a very little guy. i was going to hit this guy so hard his head would stin. he wouldn't know what the hell happened. >> reporter: today trump going after former new york city mayor michael bloomberg who delivered a scathing attack against trump at the convention. >> trump says he wants to run the nation like he's running his business? god help us. i'm a new yorker. and i know a con when i see one. >> trump tweeting this response. if michael bloomberg ran again for mayor of new york, he wouldn't get 10% of the vote. they would run him out of town. trump's prolific tweeting not lost on clinton. >> a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.
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>> reporter: trump firing back. >> if somebody tweets, i do wla do. who cares. i'll tell you, i think i have the best temper. certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that's ever run for the office of president. ever. because i have a winning temperament. >> reporter: the gop nominee as he has done so many times in the past, calling clinton several names on twitter. all there while his running mate, indiana governor mike pence took issue with name calling after the president referred to trump as a homegrown demagogue during his speech wednesday night. >> i don't think name calling has any place in public life and i thought that was unfortunate that the president of the united states would use a term like that let alone laced into a sentence like that. >> jason carroll joins us now from colorado. jason, it seems as if donald trump was affected by the criticisms lobbed at him this
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week. his biggest criticism. bloomberg he called him little. >> he told the crowd here in colorado springs he has the right temperament to be president. he said the reason he goes on twitter is because i have millions of followers on twitter. when he said he was going to go after the little guy, hit him and hit him hard, he says he didn't mean he was going to do it physically but after him with words. but the point in all this is there was a story that he told the crowd where a friend had told him look, don't go after people like this. stay focused on clinton. and he didn't do that. that's why so many of his critics still within the gop say this man is too thin skinned, doesn't have the temperament. doesn't have the discipline, frankly, to be commander in chief. but on the flipside of that, when you're out here at these rallies, colorado springs, whether it's iowa, whether it's pennsylvania, these crowds respond to that name calling. so when the eyes of the campaign, why should he stop.
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anderson? >> jason carroll, thanks very much. let's bring bette host marc lamont hill had, maria cardona, "new york times" presidential campaign correspondent maggie haverman and radio host margaret hoover. scotty hughes and trump surrogate john j. la val. >> maggie, congratulations on the interview with donald trump on foreign policy. yet another fascinating interview. the general election has begun now. 101 days. the battle has been joined. how confident are each of these campaigns at this point? >> it depends on what is being said publicly and privately. the clinton campaign feels increasingly confident coming out of this convention they have a strong message to drive against donald trump. you heard jeff talk about why they see the importance of extinguishing any trump support in the rust belt. the trump campaign says it feels very confident they believe they have a lot of the room to grow.
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when you talk to advisors privately, there is lingering frustration both with the fact the campaign has not expanded as quickly as had he hoped it would. the fact they have a candidate who they can't quite keep on message. you heard these messages in the last 24 hours hillary clinton and an array of speakers including a retired military general and mike bloomberg and the president of the united states and the nominee essentially describing him as a threat to the democracy and trump is still giving rallies talking about little mike and i'm tweeting and things like that. i know they think and he thinks this approach has worked for him and it did in the primaries. but this race is going to be settled by 100 million voter who's did not vote in other party primaries. >> john, does it concern you he spent today reverting back to the name calling labeling mike bloomberg little? >> not necessarily. he has been on message. he's been laying out his plan you. saw his speech last thursday hit
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it out of the park. he was tremendous. we saw the next president of the united states. >> in terms of specs, he continues -- he doesn't talk about specifics and today he rehashed you know every insult you know, he rehashed mocking the disabled reporter which he's continuing to pretend he didn't do. he attacked the fire marshal today. you don't hear him give a speech about specifics. >> he's a counterpuncher and will continue to do that. he's going to lay out his message like he has been. people are reacting. he keeps laying out his message. the media keeps focusing on one sentence he says. he could speak for an entire day. he makes one comment the entire evening he's talking about one comment. >> that's called running for president. >> people are reacting. > but it was way more than one comment. i've listened to the speech into it could be a few. 70% of the american people don't trust hillary clinton. they are beginning to trust him. his numbers are moving in a very positive direction.
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>> scotty, do you think the campaign is moving in the right direction, the trump campaign. >> do you think he needs to evolve as a candidate. >> there is a fine line they have to walk. on one hand, i agree he has to look more presidential. on the other hand, he has to keep up engagement. one thing donald trump has done very good is relationships and making people engage in their campaign. that's a problem that republicans have had for the last two election cycles, mccain, romney, when the base stays home, it's because they didn't feel part of it. while yes, you may not like some of the comments, the overall picture of the speech continues to keep people involved, keep people excited and them the momentum going forward. that's not necessarily happening we're seeing on the hillary clinton side. >> margaret. >> what he has to do, he has to keep up engagement but he has to expand his engagement. he can't just have republican primary voters a plurality of them, not a majority, show up at the polls in november. he needs to get single women, independent women, republican leaning independents, hispanics,
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asian-americans, we all know the demographic math isn't in his column now. so he has to mature beyond his primary personality and actually run a general election campaign. >> maria, for the democrats, you know, they are essentially have the risk of selling the status quo. i mean, hillary clinton out today saying this -- everything isn't peachy keen to use a term i haven't heard for a while, not exactly the most current modern speech. >> in high school. >> but i mean, isn't that one of the dangers to the democrats? >> it's something we have to keep in mind. what you saw in the convention the last four days were people who were focused not just on her biography be and on the woman behind the resume which was also something that was needed because a lot of people think they know her but they don't really know what mobilized or motivates her. i also think what we did dmt last four days and what they'll
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continue to do is say look, we understand the angst. democrats understand that people are anxious about what is coming, that people are afraid. there was talk about isis. that's why general allen was there, why leon panetta was there. that's why you had a lot of republicans talking on her behalf. what you are going to see the way she's positioning herself is that look, we are the greatest country in the world. we can do better. but instead of choosing a demagogue who is going to talk about the demise of america and speak to the darker angels of our psyche, we're going to choose a leader that sbeeks to the better angels of our nature fooktsed on togetherness. >> there was a sense of optimism coming out of philadelphia certainly a lot of democrats didn't necessarily hear from the republicans. >> for some that's encouraging. for someone who sits to the left of hillary clinton, myself as a green party supporter, if i'm thinking i don't want donald trump but i need a message that is progressive, i'm looking to
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the democratic convention for encouragement. to some extent, i didn't get that. if felt like the democrat party coopted with the republican narrative. i heard about american except n exceptionali exceptionalism. they countered donald trump's message of demagogue by saying we can outpatriot the republicans. so some extent i didn't get is the message of progressive economic policy. >> our platform we worked closely with the sanders supporters to do. she talked about how we need to implement it with the sanders supporters. >> maggie, how many people are to the left. >> the whole bernie crew. >> 90% of the supporters already said they're going to vote for hillary clinton. isn't bigger outreach needed to republicans. >> so cynical. >> i've got to be cynical on both sides. that's my job. >> that's exactly right. i think the -- there certainly
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were some disruptions on the floor of the convention in the last week. we saw it while several people were speaking. general allen shouted down the protesters and hillary clinton had her supporters. >> i'm not sure how many viewers knew those chants of usa were to drown out the protesters >> those are people not likely to vote for her regardless. she does have to reach out to the other side. the campaign is making the bet, their bet is and we will whose bet is. their bet is yes, we are saying the status quo is okay. there is more to be done. but it's not that bad. and usually the more optimistic message wins. >> we're going to have more with our panel and expand on the tone of the conventions. the contrast in how each candidate sees the world, how each portrayed the world on stage is worth exploring. the latest from the campaign trail. donald trump at the top of the hour. we'll be right back. clean food. words you don't often hear.
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donald trump has you heard had harsh words for hillary clinton's acceptance speech. last night she was no kinder to his. we discussed a bit before the break, the two candidates and two conventions could not have sounded more different. take a look. >> our convention occurs at a moment of crisis for our nation. the attacks on our police and the terrorism of our cities threaten our very way of life. >> now, now america is once again at a moment of reckoning. we have to decide whether we will all work together so we can all rise together. >> her plan will overwhelm your schools and hospitals further reduce your jobs and wages, and make it harder for recent immigrants to escape the
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tremendous cycle of poverty that they're going through right now. >> comprehensive immigration reform will grow our economy and keep families together and it's the right thing to do. >> nobody knows the system better than me. which is why i alone can fix it. >> americans don't say i alone can fix it. we say, we'll fix it together. >> two speeches, two conventions with by the sound of it, totally different ways of looking at the world. let's talk about that with our panel. john, i mean you certainly believe that the message of, i meanwhile the democrats say it was doom and gloom gloom, you don't interpret what happened at the republican convention as doom and gloom. >> it's reality. 70% of the american people believe this country is moving in the wrong direction. this is like aa, you have to
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admit you have a problem and you fix it. we have a problem in america. our economy is not working. americans are not working. donald trump's message is clear. it's about america first, putting americans back to work, making america strong again and then we can create some world order because we have a problem now. when america's weak, the world is in chaos. we're seeing that right now. >> margaret, look, a majority of americans believe that we're heading in the wrong direction but they all have different reasons for believing we're heading in the wrong direction. democrats blame the republicans in the congress. republicans believe we're in the wrong direction because they blame barack obama. the majority agree for their own reasons that it should go in a different direction. >> let's talk about some of the numbers. >> look, we know the economy's bad. we all agree sort of on some of the problems with the obama administration. these were very different conventions. let's continue to make the point from the person who is a republican but not a trump
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supporter that that convention did not represent me as a republican or frankly,ham elected republicans of stature who besides decided not to go. i was watching that speech last night looking for comfort to vote for hillary clinton. and to me, she fell short. i didn't feel compelled by the speech. but we've been watching hillary clinton for 25 years. one speech isn't going to change the way we think of her. the question is sort of watching this contest over the next. >> scotty, there are some republicans who are concerned that the democrats did a good job of taking -- to mark's point, taking messages which are traditionally gop messages, patriotism, national security, you know, a lot of the issues of faith, morality you would normally hear at a republican convention. >> you heard that from the people on the stage. what was interesting was the reaction from the crowd. you heard people when you had the military up there and republicans up there, that that did take a lot of guts for them
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to do. you had your folks shouting at them no more war. didn't even have respect for them. when you had someone. >> you're talking about a small number of people. >> it was still there. i think the majority of americans said i don't want to be with someone shouting at the police officers. i want to stand with law enforcement and -- >> they know that that was not something that represented hillary clinton. >> you never anybody from the stage say let's show the respect for law enforcement. show our respect for the military. you did not hear that at the rnc. even if we did agree, what the republicans were doing were showing that we were actually more open minded than we've been before. >> that is not a word that people. >> when we invite someone to speak from our stage that traditionally in years past probably would not have had the position and they get a standing ovation for the words they say, that is a big step for the republican party. on the other side, you have the democrats. >> the fewest delegates --
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>> first of all, there were very few people who wanted to talk at the republican national convention. that is not true. we had more speakers than we did with romney. >> let me finish. the people that were speakers at the democratic national convention were more diversity in those four days on that stage than what the republican party is as a whole. and in terms of what people are looking for, and i really do hope that you guys continue to think that donald trump's message is working because it did work for the primary. absolutely. but to maggie's point, you're not in the primary anymore. i hope you think you continue to be because you have to expand the electorate for donald trump and you're not doing it right now. let me raise that point with margaret. to scottie's point, the clinton campaign has spent millions already in advertising. we haven't seen that from donald trump's campaign. they haven't begun to unleash negative ads. how big a concern would that be?
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>> one, he has a wildly unconventional spending style based on his precedent. second, he's a one-man walking negative ad. he's like a proxy for those ads. traditionally, that would abinteresting observation but it's different in this context. they both have different styes. but ultimately hillary clinton hasn't moved the needle because she's not a thoroughly had likable candidate. people have decided to hold their nose. >> you haven't seen the polling after this convention. >> i'm good. >> it is true that her numbers have not really moved beyond the roughly 45% where they are and that is of concern to her campaign. and i have heard this from several people. this is also a problem she had throughout her political career which is beak her number stays the same till you're in a very clear head to head. what is striking about this campaign so far is there is a very large number of undecided
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ready to introduce the woman at the top of the ticket in pennsylvania. hillary clinton made history last night when she accepted the nomination for president, a milestone met with tears and cheers. on the very same stage, not long before clinton spoke, doug he
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will mets marked his own milestone, a lifelong republican he served in the reagan white house. he said for the first time in his life he will vote for a democrat and urged fellow republicans to do the same. he didn't mince words when explaining why. >> trump is a petulant, dangerously unbalanced reality star who will coddle tyrants and alienate allies. i'm here tonight to say, i knew ronald reagan. i worked for ronald reagan. donald trump, you are no ronald reagan. >> the message was aimed directly at people who like to draw comparisons between the campaigns and personals of former president reagan and donald trump. people like jeffrey lord who is in harrisburg tonight not at the clinton rally. he and doug elmets worked in the reagan white house together. they both join us now. i appreciate you both being with us. doug, how is it possible that two people who worked for president reagan could have such
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wildly different interpretations of the legacy as it relates to donald trump. >> is there anything in your mind reaganesque about donald trump? >> nothing at all. i mean, really when you think about it, ronald reagan believed in a shining city on the hill and donald trump calls america a divide crime scene. so i just find it fascinating that jeff, who i have a great deal of respect for and others wrap themselves in the ronald reagan flag. it doesn't fly. >> jeff, i want you to respond to that. first i want to play a clip of ronald reagan talking about immigration in mexico during the 1980 campaign. >> rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don't we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit and hen while they're working and earning here, they pay taxes here. and when they want to go back, they can go back and open the border both ways by understanding their problems. this is the only safety valve
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right now they have with that unemployment that probably keeps the lid from blowing off down there. and i think we could have a fine relationship. >> reagan also did talk about border security. but how is donald trump following in reagan's tradition? not substance even but tone. >> sure, first of all, let me say to my friend doug, welcome aboard the other train i guess. i too worked for raged reagan and hillary clinton is no ronald reagan. >> you also worked for john hines is my recollection too who would probably be rolling over in his grave right now if he knew you were supporting donald trump. >> one of john's last conversations with me was that he was getting more conservative here. but that's an aside here. let me just say in terms of what we're talking about there with ronald reagan, that was in 1980. this is 2016. the fact of the matter is sadly, we've had a lot of changes for the negative here. the reagan, the bill that reagan
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signed into law frankly in 1986 and i was there, has not worked. so we need to to do something else. >> but just overall, not just talking about immigration, how is donald trump reaganesque? >> well, you know, they even have the same slogan. let's make america great again. that was on some of the reagan campaign buttons in 1980. >> besides the slogan. >> jeff, can i just say one thing. i mean. >> sure. >> to quote our old boss, there you go again. it is just not even believable to try and compare ronald reagan to donald trump. they are -- their personalities are so different. >> doug, as i've said many times on anderson's show, no two human souls are alike. let's get over that. are there qualities about them? yes, there are. of course, you know, i mean i think that's. >> what are the qualities about donald trump that are like ronald raeagan.
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>> ronald reagan was number one competent unlike hillary clinton. think of benghazi and the contrast with grenada. american students were hostage. ronald reagan sent in the marines and rescued those students. hillary clinton was responsible for the americans in benghazi and they were killed. >> so jeffrey, you're saying both that donald trump is reaganesque because reagan was competent and donald trump is also competent? >> and donald trump is also competent. i find it very interesting in listening to the bakken forth about mayor bloomberg, the day i met donald trump for the first time, he was proudly showing me picture afrz himself with mayor bloomberg opening a golf course in the bronx. it was clear mayor bloomberg thought the world of him. i was looking at all the material. suddenly he says he's insane. if that's the case, what's mayor bloomberg doing with them then. >> and donald trump said mayor bloomberg was a great mayor in
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his last year and now he says he's a terrible mayor. you're saying they're both competent. >> competence and to a degree, ideology. what doug is saying is he wants the supreme court to be in the hands of liberals for the next 60 years. ronald reagan would definitely roll over with that. >> actually, i didn't say that, jeff. i appreciate your trying to put words in my mouth. >> that's what will happen if hillary is elected. >> that's a trojan horse. the reality is if we manage, the republicans manage to maintain control of the senate, it's not sort of a guarantee that they're going to approve democrats. but i will just say this. that there are so many differences between ronald reagan and donald trump. in terms of personality. let's talk about the fact that donald trump, let me just say one thing. donald trump takes his own council where ronald reagan surrounded himself by great advisors. you probably know one, jeff. maybe you were one.
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i just think it's such a different personality that we're dealing with. and we're moving into a period where -- i just also think that i think what's happened is that donald trump has hijacked the republican party. it's no longer the republican party. it's the party of trump. you know it as well as i do. >> doug, one of the reasons for this and if i may be a gentle critic of our old boss, and quote our friend ed rollins, he put george h.w. bush on ticket. and in ed's words in his memoirs that he felt that the enemy had moderate republican enemy had been invited into the camp and set up a succession of moderate republicans. that is in fact what happened. so the republican party has drifted left, if you will, all these years and you've got all these folks at the grassroots level who are sick and tired of it and all the insider dom and the lobbyists and consultants are tired of it. >> you know, i don't necessarily disagree with you jeff, but i would say this.
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that i believe that donald trump is left of where george bush and ronald reagan ever were. frankly, i'm not sure he is within the realm of the current republican party. i mean, he didn't necessarily even agree with many of the things that are in the party platform. >> you excoruated the platform. there is peter teal on there. that's a mark of where donald trump is on lgbt. right? gays, yes? >> i don't know where is he. i mean. >> not you, anderson. i mean doug. >> well, you know, i defer to you, jeff, because you're the one who knows most about donald trump. >> there was peter teal on the platform. that was a pretty, you know, pretty if i were statement. he said at the republican party as a republican for being so open about it. >> it is interesting. >> true of ronald reagan's sense of optimism, his view of america as doug referred to as a shining
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city on a hill. do you get flew of that, jeffrey, from donald trump? >> yes. absolutely. >> where do you see that? where do you hear that? >> i think he is a very optimistic man. >> but he has said in the recent most recent interview with the "new york times" that the u.s. shouldn't lecture to other countries about you know, human rights or tell turkey what to do because of the way the united states is. that doesn't sound like the united states is a shining city on hill. >> anderson, here's where i disagree. geeky me went back and took a look at franklin roosevelt's acceptance speech of 1932. fdr paints a pretty dark picture. >> i'm talking ronald reagan and donald trump. >> right. i'm talking about presidential candidates who paint a dark picture of reality and this is a pretty bad reality that we're in here. and the need for change. >> it just seemed like even in the darkest days, seems like even in the darkest days and
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doug correct me if i'm wrong, ronald reagan saw the best in america and talked about the best in america. >> absolutely. i think that is the huge difference. ultimately, anderson, and jeff, i think that will be the deciding decision that a lot of republicans will make on november 7th when they go into that polling booth. i do believe that sanity will prevail and election day. and hillary clinton will get elected because she's more prepared to be president than anybody in her generation. >> she's got her e-mails all over the place. she killed people in benghazi. she's an incompetent person. what can i say? >> you're saying she actually killed people? >> what i'm saying is she set up benghazi. she left those people there to die, yes. there was somebody as benghazi survivor who was at the democratic national convention who was really angry about this. that is exactly -- >> she didn't go to rescue them. >> we're going to continue this conversation when we come back. we'll be right back. i'm anne howard
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continuing the conversation with two old friends from the rag
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religion administration now on the opposite side. you said hillary clinton's responsible for the deaths of people in benghazi. you're going a lot farther than the two-year house committee which investigated this. >> well, the committee was not as i understood trey gowdy, he said he was not asked to draw a conclusion. >> they said the there were certainly bureaucratic inertia and there were lapses and they have you had have taken more security precautions. you just said she's responsible for their deaths. >> a sure you if ronald reagan had invaded grenada and those kids were killed as a result or not killed as a result, you know, he would have been held responsible. >> wasn't there a massive bombing, doug, correct me if i'm wrong. wasn't there a massive bombing at the embassy in lebanon under ronald reagan? >> yes, there was. he was the responsible officer of the government. that is exactly right. and what did he do? he took the troops out of there. he reacted and he set forth a
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plan later which as a matter of fact jibes very much with donald trump. i've compared them. >> i'm not defending secretary clinton. i'm telling you what the house benghazi committee said and it's not what you said. doug, how hard was for you to making this decision to actually you know, come out of the closet if you will and go on that stage and you know, basically urge fellow republicans not to vote for donald trump? >> well, i will tell you that it wasn't as difficult as i thought it was going to be. you know, when donald trump disparaged john mccain, i looked at my wife and i said, you know, i mean that's the end of his campaign. as i saw his campaign continue to pick up and he became the nominee i realized i had to do something. i remembered and jeff will remember this, as well in, 1980, there were democrats for reagan. i thought to myself why not
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republicans for hillary. i have become a big follower of hillary clinton. i do think that she will lead this country with a steady hand. and we are as we all know in really tum muttious times. i just can't imagine giving the nuclear codes or frankly the oval office seat to as i said last night, to a petulant unbalanced reality tv star. that's really what he is. >> jeffrey. >> have you read gary burns about hillary clinton, doug? she sounds petulant and tempermental to me. >> we should let the american people make that decision. there's probably no comparison. >> jeffrey, in terms of ronald reagan who spent a lot of time with public service, served as the governor of california, after his film career he dedicated himself to serving the public. that's one of the things i think people admired he went from a film career to this. does donald trump's lack of really a lifetime of public
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service or any kind of real public service concern you at all? because he would be the first president to who comes from a purely business background for quite some time. >> right. >> anderson, i was very inspired as a kid by president kennedy. i kept a print of his portrait on my office wall in the reagan white house. and you know, the whole ask not what you can do for your country, unfortunately we've gotten to a point where people think that public service that, just being and holding office is it. that's what you do. unfortunately everybody else in america has to go live a life. he had have to have businesses and jobs. that's what donald trump has done. hillary clinton's never done that for a day in her life. she's never korea aid single job. she doesn't have a clue. >> i do think it says a lot about donald trump and frankly his emissaries that they have to spend most of the time trying to defend his actions rather than talking about the great things he's done. i mean, we could certainly talk about the fact that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth
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versus ronald reagan who always believed in his humble roots. we can talk about his relationship with women which is i mean embarrassing in and of itself. >> we have to leave it there. i would love to have you both back on. doug he will mets, jeffrey lord, good discussion. two other friends on opposite sides of politics, chelsea clinton and ivanka trump. the question, is their friendship holding up behind enemy lines? what donald trump said this afternoon when we continue. now she writes mostly in emoji. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. get back to great. all hp ink buy one get one fifty percent off. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. schwarzkopf presents color ultîme. a model needs vibrant hair color to light up the runway. its color blend formula locks pigment in for brilliant, vibrant colors. discover runway colors that last. color ultîme, developed with claudia schiffer. from schwarzkopf.
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it would be a lot easier. >> last night, chelsea clinton introduced her mother at the convention. a quek earlier, ivanka trump did the aim for her dad at the republican convention. born two years apart, the two are friends even though their parents are battling it out for the white house. tom foreman reports. >> lying crooked hillary. she's a liar. >> donald trump talks about make america great again. he doesn't make a thing in america except bankruptcies. >> reporter: amid the campaign's fury an unlikely alliance. ivanka trump and kell see clinton, fierce political foes, stead fast personal friends. chelsea says it's so. >> our friendship had nothing, has nothing to do with politics. we were friends before this election. we'll be friends after. >> reporter: and ivanka telling "people" magazine, we're both incredibly supportive of our parents as we should be. we also continue to have great
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respect for one another. a dozen years ago when their families were friends, the two met and found they had things in common. they still do. both are married, mid 30s with ivy league educations and children. both grew up with famous fathers facing personal turmoil, and both have taken a deep interest in their parents' bid for the white house. indeed, introducing them at their party's conventions. >> my mother. >> my father. >> and our next president. >> hillary clinton. >> donald j. trump. >> but there are sharp political differences, too. for example, after ivanka praised her father's record for hiring and promoting women, promising he'll do the same as president -- >> he will fight for equal pay for equal work. >> reporter: her friend chelsea quickly shot back. >> how would your father do that? given it's not something he's spoken about. there are no policies on any of
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those fronts that you just mentioned on his website. >> reporter: with the race growing only nastier and each woman pushing so hard for her parent to win, it's fair to wonder if their cross-party friendship can survive. >> a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons. >> i just beat 16 people and i'm beating her. >> amid the scorching rhetoric, ivanka says they've not seen each other lately although asked about a daughter summit to ease campaign tensions, chelsea said. >> it isn't something that occurred to me but certainly something i would consider. >> not a bad idea. after all, thomas jefferson famously said he never thought anyone should lose a friend over politician. tom foreman, cnn, philadelphia. >> there's a lot more ahead in the second hour. we're waiting for donald trump to take the stage in denver. we'll take you there right after this. take a look at these bbq trophies:
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