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ryan and john mccain. he calls kelly ayotte weak and today he kicked a crying baby out of his rally, made a joke about the purple heart, insulted president obama and tells a viewer he doesn't think he went too far when he called hillary clinton the devil. and the day is not over yet. hillary clinton has a 9-point lead over trump in the latest cnn poll, but as we have all learned in this election, say it with me, anything can happen. two pieces of breaking news tonight. we have learned in just the last hour the trump campaign is telling cnn's dana bash that the campaign is frustrated with its off message candidate and meg whitman tells the "new york times" she will not only vote for hillary clinton, she will raise money and tell all of her friends to do the same. >> reporter: increasing concerns
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about trump's rhetoric and another concern, donald trump, saying he's not ready to endorse paul ryan. he tells the post "like paul but these are horrible times for our country. we need very strong leadership. i'm not quite there yet. i'm not quite there yet." go that language found familiar, it is. it's nearly the word ryan used when he declined to support trump. and trump also say he's not supporting senator mccain for his bid in arizona, quote, he has not done a good job for the vets and i've always felt he should have done a much better job for the vets and i've always had a difficult time because he does not treat our vets
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properly." and he called kelly ayotte a weak and disloyal leadernew hampshire. >> a man came up to me and he handed me his purple heart. i always wanted to get the purple heart. this was much easier. but it was such an honor. >> the purple heart is awarded to those wounded in combat, swift reaction from hillary clinton tweeting, "this from a man who says he sacrificed for our country." and this from khan's father. amid the bipartisan backlash to trump's comments, trump's son, eric, insisted in an interview with cbs that his father has apologized to the khan family.
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>> i think he has by calling them a hero. >> donald trump trying to keep his focus on clinton, hammering his democratic rival on trade, immigration and her ability term limit prove the economy as well as her character. >> here is a woman who's a total thief. she's a crook. she's got a bad temperament, the temperament of a loser. >> reporter: but trump getting side tracked by a crying baby. >> i love babies. actually, i was only kidding. you can get the baby out of here. >> reporter: trump's red ri-- rhetoric continues to be a challenge. and -- >> here to discuss, patrick
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healy, and thank you to my panel for joining us. trump as thrown out every political play book, talking against a gold star family, throwing out a baby. has a candidate ever put out so many fires at one time? >> no. this is donald trump for better or for worse. i interviewed him last month right after the fbi report came out and i said, well, is this going to be your message? are you going to just sort of nail this over and over again. he said, looking i can only talk about it for five minutes or so and then it gets boring. people at a rally don't want to hear that. a conventional republican candidate would be taking, you know, some of these vulnerabiliti vulnerabilities, missteps by hillary clinton and driving that
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message over and over again. instead donald trump is in that lit any of distractions that are in no way appealing to undecided voters. >> as i was saying to you guys in the break, in the beginning there was -- in the beginning there were so many independent voters and so many people who were receptive to donald trump's message and i'm hearing from many of those people now, i just can't do it because he won't stay on message. he keeps saying things i cannot agree with. >> he also won't run a campaign. if you look at what happened over the course of the convention, hillary clinton clearly got a bump out of the conventions. the gallop has been polling people for decades. this is the first time they saw people look at the convention and find the convention less appealing. he's not doing any tv allies -- his allies are spending less than a minute and he's not doing
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a real campaign. i'll point out what he did in the afterma of the fbi thing was he spent five days talking about the star of david tweet. >> now he's caught up with the khans. >> according to dana bash, trump's campaign manager, including paul mant, are incredibly frustrated with him. that these so far message that they lo and sort of cherry picks that. i think in his own mind he is still donald trump the winner. >> but let's be honest. the polls are not electro. and that's where the election is. >> absolutely. but he also regards these debates as potential game changers burr in his mind he
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views and this is where his people are a little nervous right now, that if the election is a referendum on hillary clinton hereby wins. if the election is on a referendum on donald trump, he loses. so from his point of view, he needs to be making it all about hillary clinton and he's not. the question for his campaign, why they're so nervous, is it it always all about him. he's far less invested in what the actual campaign is doing. >> so how do you think that paul mafrpt that there are members of this campaign that are extremely frustrated right now? >> i don't think they're considering throwing in the towel.
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they seem women as you've got him in ohio, pennsylvania and florida and at some point, these are rough dog days. i would just say very quickly, the rebs or worked with the republican party. i'm sure they're feeling frustrated because this is not a campaign that is running in the way a political campaign runs. who have sort of head john mccain had been attacked and now he's coming out saying i'm not there with john mccain, i'm not sure about paul ryan, saying
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good things about paul ryan'ss competitor i'm. >> but how can you trust someone, if you say, hey, listen, i'm going to support you and he goes, how do you know we'res going to do it? >> if he destabilized things and you a all these republicans stay at home or some vote for hillary clinton, he would lose some seats. >> been bu aren't they on the road to that now if they continues the way it continues. >> if the raining i think for
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leaders is donald trump the next president of the united states. if so, i'm not going to be trap a prap you look at kelly ayotte and others coming, chris harper mercer's you know know, truz been. and if you love your country and love your children as much as i think you know that we can do. stand, speech and vote for cian chens up and down theand to be
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fate to the constitution! >> what a difference a week and a half makes. jeesh. >> paul: there were five fives at brooklyns in her unand now she's raising money out in i don't i don't y. or people who want it, real changed. sncht -- a very real possibility of winning and then squander because many people believe that the khans, it's not the thing
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that will break in but it was part of the flood gate to open up and give republicans cover to come out and say i can't do this. >> obviously the timing with the democratic convention plays a role in how this things looks like it's source of spiraling. but i think we have to remember that donald trump is very much a function of a very weird moment. there's a very weird backbash against the republican establish sand he walked about i think he's a winner. i think he wants to beat hillary. i don't think he want to be betten by her, by hillary, by pom. he people weren't going leave
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him. they're not saying, donald, you voted for us to be the change guy, how can -- have never been to create a straight ji but it not a governing majority, on the outside. >> this is brook's yes. i think the republican nominee is unfit to serve as president. i said so last week, and he keeps on proving it. this isn't a situation where you have an episodic gaffe. this is daily.
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there has to come a point at which you say somebody who makes those kinds of statements doesn't have the judgment, the temperament, the understanding to occupy the most powerful position in the world. >> he's making it easy for democrats to have some inging a it's almost as if to say imagine donald trump were standing here as i am saying these things on a daily basis. is that what you want? it's very powerful. >> a couple weeks ago when he
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said it's rigged, he's going to say the general election is rigged and the boats are rigged because he's sitting himself up with a few outcomes. either he wins and he loses because someone lktd it is nod a route progress lult approximately -- it's important to remember what we saw at the conventions, we saw jimmy carter, bill clinton, barack obama all stand next to hillary clinton and say this person can be president. we did not see any president stand next to donald trump and i think what barack obama said today reinforces that as well. neither of the bushes are standing by him, mitt romney also isn't stand big him. that play as role, too.
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>> we saw hardly any establishment standing, even at the convention. >> that's right. >> thank you. when we come back, what women and children had to say about sexual harassment? well, you heard him have gain the freedom to fumble with the new water and shatter-resistant samsung galaxy s7 active. his comments. what's next for the republican candidate? who knows.
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donald trump talked about what he would want his daughter to do if she were sexually harassed. now ivanka is speaking out.
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here is lisa bloom and kayleigh mcenany. good to have both of you on. yesterday roger ailes resigning over sexual harassment charges. trump told "usa today" if his own daughter was sexually harassed, he said i would like to think she would find another career or find another company if that was the case. eric trump defended the position. >> there's no question obviously it should be addressed and addressed strongly. we all run a company. we take this -- that is an absolute no go anywhere and that's very much the case. i think what he is saying is ivanka is a strong, powerful woman, she wouldn't allow herself to be subjected to it and you should certainly take it up with human resources and she would as a strong person. at the same time, i don't think she would allow herself to be
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subjected to that and i think that was the point he was making and dhe did so well. >> wouldn't allow herself to be subjected to sexual harassment. i think he's saying a woman chooses if a man sexually harasses her. >> that's parsing words. he was saying she -- she would not allow herself to be subjected to that. anyone should go to h.r. that's what ivanka would do. go to h.r. >> it happened to her. she did not go to h.r. she said she had a new dream, she had an anxiety dream walking through the construction site with my news boss and one of the construction workers whistled to
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me, a scenario she has experienced. it had happened to her before, she did not go to h.r. >> she accepted the apology, she was being gracious in doing that. this is such a contrived controversy. donald trump was asked as a father, what would you recommend to your daughter? my father would certainly suggest if you're in a scenario and someone is being physically aggressive towards you, remove yourself from the situation. should any woman be subjected that, no. >> not. >> can afford to get away from an aggressive boss because they have to make ends meet. a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck. lisa is that what you got from the statement and donald trump? >> we're all forgetting about the third option, which is enforcing your legal rights. you don't have to run away if
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you're sexually harassed, you don't have to have your billionaire daddy help you start another career and you don't have to just take it. the other alternative is you actually stand up for your rights either via an attorney as gretchen carlson has so bravely done recently or you go to h.r., you complain and keep a copy in writing. and hopefully that doesn't. if it doesn't be then you go to an attorney. i've represented women and men who were sexually harassed for almost 30 years and every one of them is a brave, strong person. the idea that strong people don't get sexually harassed is wrong. >> i think sexual harassment is inexcusable in any setting. i think harassment in general, regardless, sexual or otherwise, is totally inexcusable and if it
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transpires, it needs to be reported and it need to be dealt with on a company level. we have a very strong h.r. team at the trump organization who is equipped to deal with these issues if they arise. you hope they never arise. you hope they have a culture in which they don't arise but when they do, it needs to be dealt with swiftly. >> should that have been the answer from the beginning? >> no. here's the problem with what lisa is saying. she's talking about the legal matter and she's right. there's a zero tolerance policy for sexual harassment. she's correct about that. but she was asked as a father and what lisa is saying, let's get to the root of what she's really saying, she is saying there's one right answer for a father to give his daughter. stay in the situation and report it to h.r. if your daughter or son is getting harassed, you have the option to say get away from a
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sexual harasser. there's not one right answer, lisa. >> it's completely tone deaf to say find another career -- >> or company. >> i went to law school for three years -- >> so did i. >> i enjoy being a lawyer. i don't want to find another career. i don't want to go to med school. i don't want to work in fashion. i want in career. and women don't have to choose between their dignity and their job. this is not the 19th century. we have rights and we're entitled to enforce them. and this interview was in the context of roger ailes, donald trump was standing up for his friend roger ailes who according to report has sexually harassed 25 women at this point that we know of. >> by the way, i went to law school for three years, too. that doesn't take away the
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empathy and the concern for physical aggression. >> nobody talked about physical aggression. i would stand up for your right, for gretchen carlson's right, even though she and i differ politically on a lot of issues to have the career and the job and the company that you choose. you should not have to leave and none of my clients should have to leave simply because they are sexually harassed. that is 19th century thinking. i wonder if donald trump is aware that women have the right to vote, that we have rights now. >> gretchen carlson was the impetus behind this. here's what she says about trump's comment. she said about eric trump's comments, "in 2016 we're still victim blaming women. trust me, i'm strong." i'm sure gretchen carlson would like to be in her job right now
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but she unfortunately for her, she is not. >> it is not victim blaming. eric trump, donald trump, me, lisa, we all agree sexual harassment is inexcusable. but a father looking at his daughter can say get away from the situation. you can't tell me -- >> no, it's not an acceptable answer. the acceptable answer is the perpetrator should find another job, find another company, let the perpetrator find another career and you, my daughter or any woman you have the right to have your job and not be sexually harassed. >> can someone like ivanka trump politically, because donald trump faces a deficit when it comes to women, or is this like everything else going to fade foot back pages after a while? >> there's no controversy. think when most viewers watch this and read the context of
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trump's comments -- >> so he agreed with everything lisa has said and people are trying desperately, they parse his every syllable to find something wrong with what he said. >> it was also the clean-up, too. it was also eric trump's comments and both of them were seen quite honestly to most people who have a brain that they're somewhat victim blaming in this statement. you should move and take another job? if i was discriminated against, i wouldn't want another job. i would want to be taken care of in the job that i have. >> lisa is saying the woman should go to h.r. because you're parsing one word, the word allow, that's just irresponsible. it's irresponsible on your part, lisa to take him out of context. i think it's sad and viewers can see it. >> what's the could be text? donald trump calling women dogs, pigs, saying that megan kelly
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was menstruating. for to you say that donald trump would agree with me on this issue of sexual harassment 100%, boy, i would love to see donald trump himself say that or somebody from his campaign say that because i seriously doubt that. >> well, you're deflecting and engaging in character assassination of donald trump because the fabs are not on his side. >> i'm telling the word from his own month. >> you raised the issue of context. that's the context. multiple organizations of shart again i. >> is trump giving up on trying to unify his own party?
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is it too late for donald
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trump to union fight the gop? is he even trying? >> it was a big day for the republican. new york representative richard hanna became the first gop house member to say he'll be voting for hillary clinton. and then tonight during the show, meg whitman came out, the former hewlett packard executive saying she's going to vote for hillary clinton. here's what she says. she says "as a proud republican casting my vote for president has usually been a simple matter. this year is different. to vote republican out of party loyalty alone would be to endorse a candidacy that i believe has exploited anger, grievance, xenophobia and racial division. donald trump's demagoguery has undermined the fabric of our national character and says, therefore, i have decided to support hillary rodham clinton. it is clear to me that in a
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tumultuous world, america neelds t -- needs the stable and aspiration aspirational leadership secretary clinton can provide. anna, what's your response to that? >> it's a very difficult time, don. i almost feel when i'm waking up in the morning when i'm reading political obituaries. hardly a day goes by when i don't read an on end from a friend of mine. this week i wrote an op-ed from john mccain's granddaughter, who
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has voted republican. from chris christie's top aide, who has always voted republican, from sally bradshaw, jeb bush's top aide, who has always voted republican, add to that matt salter, lionel salsa, who has been doing p.r. for hispanic republican candidates for decades. the bottom line is donald trump is bleeding republicans because when we look at what he's saying, we don't recognize the party that we have loved for so many decades. when i see a military mother getting boo'd at a trump rally, i don't recognize that. do you think that would have ever happened at a reagan event? do you think ronald reagan would have not stopped it? nipped it at the bud? so he is bleeding republicans and he doesn't seem to give a damn. >> but this is republican establishment. let's say 15 or 20 denounce --
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>> no, no, no, look. i can tell you this much. i can name you 30 republicans off the top of my head in florida who are not going to vote for him. remember, george w. bush won florida by 534 votes. it is a swing state. maybe new jersey doesn't matter, maybe california doesn't matter, maybe new york doesn't matter burke when you get to the swing states and for each one of these republicans that you are hearing about in public, i assure you, done, that are also feeling the same way, we don't know their names or their profile. >> caylee, how much longer is florida -- -- pair part of political class or pair insiders. the point is donald trump ran again the political class, he ran against the political elite.
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i'm not surprised to see the political elite reject him. but i do think the voters, who, by the way, you look at primary and caucus states, their anger was registered in all of the 50% plus, they felt betrayed the question i've been asking bakari, is this the beginning when it comes to the cannes family? does this give other promment conservatives the.
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>> a-- opportunity? it's very important that he consolidate the conservative base before he goes out there and tries to make new ground. but let me just douse a little bit of cold water on this whole theory about republicans leaving. democrats still are to work fofr every vote and although i don't believe donald trump can outdebate anybody, mitt romney did show up in the people in his campaign telling our dana bash we're frustrated, we're doing all of this in vein, our efforts are wasted. is he playing right into the campaign's hands? >> he very well could be.
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i think part of what you're seeing is someone who continues to be baited. you also saw jan brewer come out today to say drft was not enough had anymore and he's used to demonstrate, just like we talked about earlier, why these editorials continue to come out, saying he does not have the judgment and he is not fit to be president. these are still few and far between. that's why the president said what he said today in the east room saying it not enough for you to condemn his remarks. it's time for you than just do more than talk about what his candidates. >> when we come right back, the youngest heckler ever, i think. >> and whapt to a baby at a
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sorry. back with me kayleigh mcenany, anna navarro, bakari sellers. today donald trump booted a crying baby from an event after initially saying the baby and the mother could stay. watch this. >> the biggest in the world. don't worry about that baby. i love babies. i love babies. i hear that baby crying. i like it! what a baby. what a beautiful baby. don't worry. don't worry. they have ripped us to shreds. ripped us absolutely to shreds. actually, i was only kidding. you can get the baby out of here. that's all right. don't worry. i think she really believed me that i love having a baby crying while i'm speaking. >> this ain't funny, don.
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this is not funny. >> that is funny, come on. >> cry baby. >> go ahead, don baby. ask your questions. >> anna -- >> i'm too damn sober to answer. >> usually politicians kiss babies, they don't kick them out of events. >> right. >> most of them wish they could. listen, look, listen. i think what you saw there was donald trump hamming it up for the crowd, hamming it up for the camera. remember, this is a tv personality, a reality tv show host. if you can follow his stream of consciousness, my respect to you frankly. i can't. now, i do want to go back, though, to something kayleigh said in the last segment. you know, when you dismiss when you deride the names i mentioned as republican washington insiders, i think you're doing
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the entire republican party a disfavor. sally bradshaw is in florida. lionel is in texas, maria camelo is in new jersey. when you, so i owe them a debt of gratitude and respect. they have been loyal gop soldiers and they should be of great concern to anybody trying to lead this party and as the nominee that so many of these loyal, loyal republicans are deciding to leave because they'd rather leave than vote for this man. >> kayleigh, do you want to respond? >> i don't think appreciate bringing age into this controversy. millennials are still allowed to have opinions that are respected. secondly, there is a reason why there is anger among gop voters. there is a region voters feel
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betrayed by this party. they're for building a wall and they get to washington and end their pro am. >> what about the substance of her argument? there are people who have been fighting in the trenches on both sides and they should be respected. >> they're allowed to have an opinion, but i think there's an effort to squash the will of the people and -- >> kayleigh, hold on. >> anna, hold on. anna, annia i'm talking here, anna. >> got it, donald, go ahead. knock yourself out. >> everyone is allowed to have an opinion but when i think that experience and people who have been in the trench ares deserve a respect, it's not just about an opinion, whether they did something wrong in the past or they did something right.
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yes, you can expect them. >> do you know who also deserves respect, though? republican voters. they've been told they made a bad choice, they're ignorant, how can you elect this person. that is the person being sent to republican voters. it has happened from the get-go when people made fun of him, got more voters than any nominee in presidential history. do you know who deserves respect? donald trump the put him there deserve respect. >> go ahead. then i have to get o been.
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>> and the baby. >> i understand on the baby you can make campaign trails, you can we can say the same for your nominee who just this sunday lied appeared said the fbi director condoned her whole story and said she was truthful when in fact she is not. an apology coming from hillary clinton doesn't mean must when she follows with with lies after lies after lie. >> there are a lot more rankings. that was a great pivot. check those pinochios for donald trump. he has a whole lot more. >> we'll be right back. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected
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board his private plane instagram followed by a kfc tweet in what may or may not be the same seat but it is the knife and fork that have folks dropping their cutlery and man handling the chicken. >> who would do it with a knife and fork? donald trump. does? you have to eat it with your fingers. my hands. i'm a man. >> how would you eat it? >> with my hands. >> we all know that donald is a germ freak, so why should critics stick a knife in him for using a knife and fork on kfc? maybe because this is trump's second cutleryfaux pas. first when he took sarah palin out for pizza. maybe it is not as weird as eating a snickers with a knife and fork as characters on "seinfeld" did. >> look. he is cutting up an almond joe.
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>> i saw someone on the streets eating and mm with a spoon. >> what is to stop you from eating kfc with a knife and fork. >> inject it into your artery with a neelelike this. >> use your hands and then use the grease to keep the comb over in place. >> there are no do overs when candidates eat in public. >> i learned early on not to eat in front of all of you. >> after hillary resisted eating cheesecake, stephen colbert taught her how to do it. >> take the cover off and then eat as much as you want. >> he used the fork and hands straddling the issue like a politician. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> now i'm hungry. p
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