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cleric when the president of the united states holds a news conference later today. look for cnn's live special coverage. it all begins 4:15 p.m. eastern on cnn. i'm back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. the news continues right now on cnn. wolf blitzer, thank you so much. great to be with you on this thursday. i'm brooke baldwin and this is cnn. we begin with the counteroffensive, the most powerful republican in congress just launched against his party's presidential nominee, donald trump. by the way, trump is due to speak at a town hall a short time from now. we'll take that live. but this is part of a lineup of major political events with hillary clinton, the president as well speaking in the next couple of hours. so keep it right here. now when donald trump comes up to the podium, he will take on house speaker paul ryan as
speaker ryan did today with trump, or will he? that's really the question. the house speaker brush off trump's refusal to endorse him in his wisconsin primary five days from now. what's more, speaker ryan did not rule out that he may revoke his endorsement of mr. trump. >> if i see a situation where our conservative principles are being distorted, i'm going to stand up for those conservative principles. if i see and hear things that i think are wrong, i'm not going to sit by and say nothing. because i think i have a duty as a republican leader to defend republican principles and our party's brand if i think they're being distorted. and so that's what i said i would do. back then when i supported him and that's what i continue to do if and when i see these situations arise. >> had would there ever be a bridge too far? >> i've always said of course there are moments. i'm not going to get into the speculation or hypotheticals.
none of these things are ever of blank checks. that goes with any situation in any kind of race. >> speaker ryan also said that trump's clash with the parents of the slain muslim-american war hero killed in action is "beyond the pale." jason carroll is live in portland, maine, ahead of that trump event next hour. the key question as we were watching yesterday, we watch again today, does trump stay on message? does he attack hillary clinton or not? >> well, first of all, national anthem is going on right now so i'm ghing inggoing to speak in tones. >> let's not speak. let's just listen. let's just listen. ♪ and the home of the brave >> all right. had to hear that live.
that was gorgeous. now to you, my friend. talk to me about what we'll hear from mr. trump. >> reporter: well, let's just talk about what we expect, will donald trump take on paul ryan or will he not? look, it is hard to predict -- sorry, we are a live. it is hard to predict what donald trump would ever do when he stands up and takes the stage. but i can tell you this. what we saw yesterday in daytona, daytona beach, if that is any indication of what we will see today, expect donald trump to be on message. at least for most of his speech. that's what he did yesterday. he took on hillary clinton on ta number of issues. that $400 million payment to iran, taking her on in terms of her trustworthiness, her ability to handle the economy. this is what folks in the gop want to see donald trump do more of, what they want to see him do less of is some of what he did yesterday when he started to go into the whole controversy with megyn kelly, whether or not he
was poking fun at a disabled reporter. these are the things that folks in the gop say, look, this has been litigated in the press all too often during the primaries. we need to move beyond that. move beyond that. stick to the issues, stick to attacking hillary clinton. that is what many in the gop hope to hear more of today. in donald trump's words, in terms of -- we've heard that this is a campaign that's in disarray, a campaign that needs a reboot, a reset. donald trump saying yesterday that, look, he has never seen a campaign that's been more unified than his own campaign. so in terms of what we expect to hear today, expect him to go after hillary clinton on more of the points that we heard him go after hillary clinton yesterday. what he does after that, that's pretty much anyone's guess. brooke? >> we'll watch for it, jason carroll, thank you very much. donald trump also scoffing at reports about his campaign maybe unraveling. but you can't ignore numbers here today. hillary clinton opening up a
double-digit lead, now leading in three key states -- new hampshi hampshire, michigan, pennsylvania. phil mattingly is here to talk through these polls. these are three states that the trump camp has said are key to getting him in the white house. >> the trump. example hasn't just said it -- they have. but it is reality. you don't win the white house without winning these states or a couple of these states. numbers are particularly bad. when you look at everything surrounding the trump campaign right now, nothing can assuage interparty concern like good numbers. nothing can exacerbate interparty dischord like bad numbers. we're with the latter right now. donald trump is trailing nine, ten points in a couple points. new hampshire first. hillary clinton up by 15 points in a four-way race. she's at 47%, donald trump at 32%, then you move over to pennsylvania, a lot of people are pointing to pennsylvania as this is where donald trump will
be made or broken essentially. hillary clinton up by 13 points in a three-way race. 47% to 34%. michigan is considered a little bit more of a stretch for donald trump. but, it's crucial to donald trump's strategy because these are the voters that he believes he turns out in a way no other republican has before him. michigan, hillary clinton up nine points in a four-way race. 41%-32%. all of these numbers combine -- look. donald trump has had a rough couple of weeks. right? at least in the sense you have of the democratic national convention. the hope was that the very real bounce he got after the republican national convention would stick a little bit and help kind of maybe tone down what hillary clinton was going to get coming out of philadelphia. this is -- these are real concerning numbers. these are numbers that show he has major holes in his campaign and he needs to make up for quickly and the bigger issue is how does he actually make that up. he doesn't have a lot of money right now. a very good fund-raising money, but doesn't have ads on air, his
ground operation isn't as flushed out as hillary clinton's ground operation. so how do you bring up these numbers? these aren't positive numbers. >> you wonder who you it affects the races down the ballot. >> there are races in new hampshire and pennsylvania, republicans even if they aren't oes associating directly for donald trump they need them to turn out. no question people have also complained how ugly the political rhetoric has gotten this political season. now "the new york times" is showing what that ugliness looks like. not just between the candidates, the paper this morning made an exception to its rule against publishing vulgarities and slurs and posted a video of what its own reporters hear from some. let me be clear -- some, not all -- some of the people who attend these trump rallies. the "times" presidential
campaign editor says that it is "unlike anything we have seen in politics or in "the new york times." here is just a clip. >> build that wall! build that wall! build that wall! >> with me now, cnn political commentator mark lamont hill, and carl higby who serves as a navy s.e.a.l. gentlemen, welcome. carl, straight out to you.
how -- when these vulgarities are shouted at a rally or outside of a rally, how does donald trump react to that language? >> well, think it is how the public reacts to the language. shah shirt you wethat shirt youg with trump that "expletive," people are annoyed with the direction of the country right now. they're buying these shirts and it is a marketable and profitable industry so people are doing it. i'm not going to make excuses for people using vitriolic language and they shouldn't do it and it certainly doesn't help the cause. the people protesting trump at his rallies burning american flags. i think it is going along on both sides. >> to be fair, and i did reach out to all of our campaign reporters, especially those who cover the other campaigns, i said what's the worst you've sort of seen or heard say at a hillary clinton or bernie sanders rally, and they said, they've heart chants of wall street, they've heart chants of "bs."
they've heard chants of "no trump." but that's it. mark, what do you think? >> you know, i'll give you an example. i was at the republican national convention all week. i was at the democratic national convention all week. and the type of slurs, type of the vitriolic language, type of hate-filled speech i heard from trump supporters was vastly different from what i heard from hillary clinton supporters. i'm not a hillary clinton supporter, i'm a jill green green party supporter. i'm telling you, it was much worse on the trump. >> did we lose him? >> no, you still got me. >> i've still got you, carl. let me just continue on. in addition to the video, we had this "new york times" piece -- or rather -- "new york times" piece written by columnist charles blow. he says in part this -- supporting trump is indefensible and it makes you as much of a pariah as he is.
trump is a mirror. he is a reflex of indeed a revealing of the ugliness that you harbor, only it is possible that you may have gone your life expressing it in ways that were more coded in politic. so it is strong, it is harsh. obviously we see how he has fought. we've talked to him a number of times on the show so we know how he feels about trump. he is essentially saying when you read the whole piece, lumping all trump supporters is racist. is that fair, carl? >> well, no, it's not fair to say. people on both sides are going to have tendencies of their own inclination. the fact of the matter is, if you have -- for instance, the republican party passed the 13th, 14th, 15th amendments to free slaves and give them equal rights and give them voting rights. so the fact that is that if you believe db the democrats have voted against that doesn't make you racist to be a democrat. so it certainly doesn't make you a racist to be a republican just
because some guy wrote and article about it. that's one thing the democrats have been actually successful at is dividing this party by white male, white female, muslim-american, what they do is divide and conquer. that's what the pac i represent, great america pac, has been very effective at bringing people together and reaching across the aisles and making sure we are all americans and not segregated by race, religion or creed. >> mark, you were shaking your head. tell me why. >> lots of things. first, just to quickly catch up. i've been at lots of conventions, lots of rallies, all for the last 20 years. i've never quite heard from a mainstream candidate what i've heard -- mainstream campaign what i've heard on the trump campaign. what i heard in cleveland was radically different than when i heard in philadelphia. i'm not a hillary clinton supporter, i many am a green party supporter. i have no nickel in this race. this is a radical difference here. i don't think it is about being divisive, it is about telling the truth. we can talk about the republican party freeing slaves in the 19th century but that's not the same
republican party that we see at the turn of the 20th century and certainly not the republican party that we see right now. that's the conversation we need to be having. i don't think that everybody who's going to vote for donald trump is racist and i certainly don't think who is republican is racist but i do think it is increasingly indefensible to support and vote for donald trump given the things that he says and the values that he supports and the people who e stand around him. that's a serious conversation that we need to have. >> quickly, carl. >> i think it is very interesting to look at here. it doesn't matter the color of your skin. what happens is people are becoming increasingly more divisive over this. it is like, look, barack obama, a black president -- or half-black president, has been in power for eight years now. you've also had two black attorney generals. is the black community better off? the median income of the black community is far down. >> let me just interject. when you watch this entire "new york times" video -- we didn't play sort of the most egregious, the worse t of it. skin color does matter,
according to some of these folks who are chanting these slurs. >> a lot of those things were also aimed at the migrant thing. i don't agree with all the things that were said there. i think what you have is people are annoyed of people coming in to this country, committing crimes -- not all. there's very many immigrants who come here legally and work very hard and abide by the laws and go through the system. but there are many that don't. >> right. but again, tell the truth. let's not have distractions like talking about the median income of african-americans under black attorney general general. the attorney general has nothing to do with income. i don't even understand the connection there. but the deeper question here is, again, is race and racism a conversation at these rallies. whether or not barack obama is an effective president or not is irrelevant. the truth is at these rallies we hear antiimmigrant sentiment, xenophobic sentiment and racist sentiment. when you hear those things is raises questions about the candidate. it doesn't mean you are accountable for every single penk th person that supports you. but donald trump's comments about mexican-american judges. his comments about muslims.
his comments about arabs. his comments about women invite these types of people. he invites these people to stand around him through his rhetoric. then after he throws the roshgs, rocks, then he hides his hands. we need to talk about what it means to defend someone who has this type of agenda and this type of platform. >> words matter. i think both sides of the aisle would agree. an important conversation to have as we move forward. short time from now, president obama will face questions about that $400 million in cash the u.s. sent to iran in that unmarked cargo plane. critics have been calling it ransom. how will the president deal with that criticism when he presumably speaks about it in just a little while? also ahead, clint eastwood. have you seen this today? he goes off on political correctness. he talks about donald trump and the infamous chair episode at the last rnc. i should say now two rncs ago. we have that for you. . also ahead, breaking news
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president obama will soon face tough questions on his decision to send cargo plane loaded with $400 million in cash to iran on the very same day iran released those four american hostages. we are also hearing that senior justice department officials reportedly raised objections to this plan long before the cash-filled plane ever took off back in january. president obama and the state department approved the plan. the white house though insisting some of the optics that the $400 million wasn't at all ransom money for those four american but rather a long overdue payment -- a piece of the overall payment from the u.s. to iran for a failed arms deal that goes all the way back to 1979.
cnn senior correspondent jim sciutto and what exactly has the doj so worried? >> the doj was worried about really an obvious point here. even if you had to separate negotiating tax, whie ining tra americans being released in iran and another separate one talking about these frozen's sets, even if you did do that, if you release that mvn on the same day the americans are coming home it will look like a quid pro quo. there is an argument that there was at least an element of that here because iran has a history of this. they take and imprison people and they are in effect hostages because they often traded for someone else, for other iranian prisoners or for concessions. the optics were obviously dangerous there.
you could really make an argument there was a connection. on the flip side, the white house will say this was money that was owed, it was frozen, it was $400 million, it had built up to $1.7 millibillion due to interest from this failed military deal. so it wasn't a gift, twau owit d to them. but if the planes fly out, it looks obvious. >> it is like the very same day. it makes it look curious. you also have doj and state differing on opinion but ultimately was the president. >> right. it is common in the government that different parts -- >> people disagree. >> i know, it is hard -- see, cnn is different because no one ever disagrees at cnn. but in the government people sometimes disagree and we have a president to settle those. so this whole story strikes me as something that a second-term
president at the end of his term will do. he's like, you know what? let them criticize me. i want to get this deal done, i want to get the hostages out, i want to try to lessen the tensions and if people want to say nasty things about me, fine. this is not, i submit, what barack obama would have done in august of 2012. >> so maybe that's a thought bubble today. we're going to see him this afternoon and he, of course, will having to answer for this. how do you think he publicly addresses this? had. >> he's going to say both negotiations, both for the hostages and for the broader resolution of economic and diplomatic issues, were separate negotiations. but they were going on at the same time. and they were part of an overall lessening of tensions. but this was not, he will say, a ransom because the united states does not pay ransom, because we don't want to encourage taking of our citizens. >> jim sciutto, where does this
go now? >> well, listen. even though the president's not running for office, of course his former secretary of state is. there's no question that it's going to be an issue in the campaign. certainly donald trump -- >> trump's already brought it up. >> he has already brought it up. it goes back to, because you have deep opposition to this iran nuclear deal among many republicans, even republicans who aren't particularly excited about trump. so it gives them an opportunity. that said, it's not entirely new because we knew and we reported months ago that this payment was made to iran. dimpx is that now you have this detail of a plane full of cash which of course feeds that impression that this was some sort of dirty, secretive, and frankly, ransom payment. >> right, jim sciutto, jeff toobin, thank you so much. we'll listen for the president in the coming hours. coming up, it may be one of the strongest indicators on how
a presidential election turns out. historical significance of president obama's approval bounce and what it means for how this election could go come november 8th. plus, six months pregnant and nervous, living in an area where zika has come. in miami. we'll talk to a mother who got tested for zika today. she's now waiting for those results. she's six months pregnant. extreme steps she is taking to avoid mosquito bites with the zika virus. coming up. beyond has a natural
we're back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. donald trump got a bounce from his republican national convention. hillary clinton for hers. and in a twist now, president obama's getting his own sort of post-convention boost. a new cnn poll giving the president the highest approval rating of his second term at 54%. let's start there. david chalian, champion political director, and tim neftali, i think between the two of you we have all things politics and history entirely covered for all of time. that said, david chalian, how might the president's numbers, highest in, what? . four years? help clinton. >> well, listen. there is no better path to success for hillary clinton than to recreating the obama coalition that existed in 2008 and 2012. so african-americans, hispanics, young people, single women.
these are the building blocks that created two big victories for barack obama in 2008 and 2012. so when he's politically healthy at 54% and can barnstorm the entire country on her behalf and we saw -- >> the embrace -- >> that indeed is a boost. they're a lot happier in brooklyn today. it's really important. >> more numbers, tim, two gallup polls last month showed huge unfavorables, 57% for clinton, 61% for trump. so what do you think this obama approval rating is really about? >> well -- >> can you connect any of that? >> brooke, think about it. hillary clinton has two running mates now. and she will deploy tim kaine and barack obama in different parts of the country. you will see barack obama go back to north carolina. you will see barack obama go to nevada. you'll see barack obama go to
colorado. barack obama's going to go to certain parts of the country that, as david said, were part of the obama coalition. tim kaine is going to go and do what biden tried to do. he's going is to try to hold on to rust belt areas, he's going to try to keep the losses among white men down where she's not doing well at all. it's interesting, ronald reagan also got a bounce in the summer after the conventions. and obama and reagan are about at the same level right now. it's really a good thing for a third term, if you will, candidate to have a healthy presidential assistant. the one who didn't use it well was al gore. bill clinton was at 60% at this point, and al gore, for reasons including the impeachment, didn't use him. there was a reason, but he later regretted it. >> of course, bill clinton's 57% at the time was due to beating back impeachment and all the support that he was receiving from hard-core democrats throughout that process. but al gore still was worried
about the middle and distanced himself. >> donald trump repeating his line, barack obama is the worst president in history. smart move? >> well, listen. this is -- the republican party has become the opposition party to barack obama more than anything else over these last eight years as a loyal opposition party should be. that is the animating principle for donald trump's most hard core supporters. listen, 54% is a very healthy number but it still means that there are independents out there that are skeptical about barack obama still. we know he's pretty polarizing figure still, even sitting at 54% approval. it makes sense for donald trump to continue to rally his base. nothing -- we saw it in cleveland. nothing u.n. ffie unifies the r party more than taking the fight to hillary clinton on a daily basis. right now uniting the republican party still seems to be mission number one for trump. >> it is. thank you both. i appreciate it.
up next, he chatted with a chair in support of mitt romney, a chair. like the kind that you sit in. four years later, what does clint eastwood think of donald trump? his remarks and the no-so-political no-so-politically-correct language. if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance plan whenever you want. no enrollment window. no waiting to apply. that means now may be a great time to shop for an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan,
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>> clint eastwood telling "esquire" magazine the world is far too sensitive. let me quote a piece of this interview. he is on to something referring to trump. because secretly everybody's getting tired of political correctness, kissing up. we're really in a "bleep" generation. what trump is on to, he's just say is what's on his mind. he's said a lot of dumb things. so have all of them. both sides. but everybody, the press, and everybody's going oh, well, that's racist and making a big thing out of it. just bleepin' get over it. it is a sad time in history. eastwood stopped short of endorsing donald trump but did say he would have to choose trump over hillary clinton. with me now, the man on the other end of the interview, michael haney, also executive editor of editorial. and author of "the party's over, how i became a democrat."
gentlemen, welcome. colorful language for an octo r octogenarian. but what did you make about that? >> he's a guy who's always spoken like he does. he interviewed him seven, eight years ago. there is not much difference between the clint on screen and the clint you get in real life. as i say, every sort of presidential cycle he seems to insert himself, whether actively or sort of impulsively. ronald reagan was the one who like "make my day." i think even trump somehow -- he must be practicing the clint squint, the sort of tough guy affectation. but clint is -- he just sort of calls it like it is. >> you mentioned the gran torino script. >> one of his producers said you're not going to like this
script. he read it. he came back the next morning and said we're putting this in production right away. >> first, kudos for michael, it was a great piece. i'm reminded of the lesson that sometimes our great directors and actors ought to let their talking be done on film. >> you think he took it too far? >> i like the character. i like the sort of real feeling of it. but some of this stuff is a little dumb, isn't it? i mean, no, a whole generation of people are not, to use the bad word. america is not going to hell. it's not -- let us not confuse crotchedy 86-year-old brilliant artist with a political animaly. is that fair? >> is it fair? >> i don't think he is a political analyst. i think he's simply saying his mind and saying what a lot of people are feeling this year, which is i don't get -- i think that people should toughen up a little bit. >> he did thrust himself -- or probably was asked to during the
romney republican national convention. the chair moment. we remember. let's remind everyone. >> -- but there's a -- yeah. i think attorneys are so busy, they're always taught to argue everything. >> i remember being in there and watching him. clint eastwood is talking to a chair. this is the first time, michael, that he's addressed this, calling it silly. >> right. he actively owned it. he sort of rolled his eyes and laughed. he said i'm standing backstage, hearing all these guys talk about romney, same thing, he is amazing, he's great. he says i got to say something different. all of a sudden it came into my mind, the neil diamond song. he said give me a chair, i'm going to go out there and try to do something. some performances work, others don't. but you move on.
>> we learned something in the piece on that. i had never known that. did anyone else know that? >> no. >> i mean that was a memorable moment in pop culture. again, i'm not going to confuse it with great political oratory. but it is kind of interesting to knee. >> it is in "esquire," it is the cover piece. 86 years old. he said he works out in the morning, half-an-hour on the elliptical and a half-an-hour of weights. 86. 86 years young. thank you so much. come back. to both of you. . in one hour, as planes blanket the city with pesticides, pregnant women in miami are rushing in to get tested for zika. coming up next we'll talk to a miami mom who is six months pregnant who was just tested for zika today. stay here.
you saw it there -- actually, first up here -- just a reminder -- president obama's been meeting with his security chiefs in washington, among many of those men and women, secretary of defense ash carter, joe biden. and this is ahead of a big news conference that the president will be holding at the pentagon in just about an hour from now where he will be taking a number of questions. we'll take that live. meantime, to miami. an all-out air assault is being launched against the zika virus in south florida, miami-dade county is now conducting aerial spraying for mosquitos. this is near the wynwood neighborhood. the centers for disease control has issued a travel warning for this community of wynwood. spraying zone covers ten square miles just north of the downtown miami. the mosquito borne virus has been linked to microencephaly.
this has led to a sharp rise in expectant moms, wanting to be of course tested for the virus. one woman just got tested for zika today and joins me live from miami. tracy, thanks for coming on. >> thank you, brooke. >> i just wanted to go straight to, i know you are about to be a mom of two in a couple of months. and you went today. are you nervous at all or no? >> today i got tested and it definitely has been nerve-racking. i'm glad to have gotten the testing done and anxiously awaiting my results. >> so how -- to what extreme are you going to avoid -- i know you are a runner. i understand you have been bitten by mosquitos down in miami. but to what extreme are you
going around your home to keep them at bay? >> we've been really cautious, very careful. we have a bunch of mosquito zappers inside our house, as well as outside of our house. we just got a mosquito magnet contraption for outside of our house and we are very diligent about we put on natural mosquito repellant before we go outside and we try to avoid times when the mosquitos are most prevalent during sunset. so we've been very, very careful and cautious most definitely. >> what about the chemicals they're spraying to fight it off, to fend it off? does that worry you at all? >> it's a little disconcerting. i mean i put trust that our city is doing what's safest, especially for animals, children, and everyone. the nice thing is they're doing it very early in the morning when most people are still inside. but i was careful. i wanted to make sure when the spraying was going to occur and be sure that my 4-year-old son and my husband and i were inside
and not outside during the spraying. >> by the way, when we talk about this area of miami, wynwood, it's an area where a lot of people go. it is a pretty hip little spot, right? i mean it's not like it is some far-flung part of miami where no one really has to worry. >> oh, yes. no. wynwood is an incredible place, amazing restaurants, art galleries. it is a place where people come from all over to visit. and people are inside, but mostly outside. and it is a place that my family and i love to visit. and, unfortunately, during this zika outbreak, it's been scary and we have avoided the area. we do live very close to it. but miami being in the tropics, the best place to be is outside. unfortunately where also the mosquitos are. >> well, i wish you the best with baby number two. we're thinking of course -- couple months ago we thought it was just south america but it's here and this is a very real
issue for a number of people, including you. my best to you, tracy. thank you so much. >> thank you. hopefully everyone can stay safe and work together to fight this problem. but thank you very much. >> you got it. we're right there with you. coming up next here on cnn, the president speaking in a little bit. so is donald trump. live pictures here at a town hall. we'll hear from him in a couple of minutes. will he be on message again today? more criticism from party leaders, especially in the wake of that radio interview that house speaker paul ryan did this morning. also ahead, the man who admitted killing nine people in that charleston church. charleston, south carolina. he was assaulted today behind bars. we'll tell you what happened next.
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and that really clicked with me. i loved it. when i was 12 years old, we discovered that i had acute myeloid leukemia. i had rounds of chemo. one of the reasons my hospital stays were so long was because of my complications. my first hospital stay i got a gangrene infection. all of a sudden we went from cancer patient to she was on life support for three days. >> the day before my bone marrow transplant they found another infection in my knee joint. that's when any finally said we have to amputate. i knew and my family knew that it was my leg or my life. and then my coach said something that really changed what i thought. she said, "i've never taught a one-legged gymnast before but i'm willing to try, if you are." i started working on my events again and getting my skills back. i wasn't going to let cancer change what i did and what i was going to do. i compete against able-bodied
gymnasts. >> they do not change the rules for her. which is fine for her. she doesn't want the rules to be changed. she's the epitome of it doesn't matter what bump in the road you hit, you can still make things work. >> i'm just doing what i love. i hope that everyone can look at my story and be like, if she can do it, so can i. all right. we continue on. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. a reminder to all of you, we are watching and waiting to hear from donald trump, live pictures there in portland, maine, as he speaks before another rally. this is just one in a lineup of major political events this afternoon with hillary clinton and president obama also expected to speak over the course of the next 60 to 90 minutes. we'll take all of it live. now when donald trump comes to the podium there in maine, one of the questions is will he address house speaker paul ryan as speaker ryan did this morning
in a radio interview with regard to mr. trump. the house speak eer brushed off trump's refusal to endorse him in his state's primary in just niv days. what's more, speaker ryan did not rule out that he may revoke his endorsement of the republican nominee. >> if i see as a choice of where our conservative principles are being distorted, i'm going to stand up for those conservative principles. if i see and hear things that i think are wrong, i'm not going to sit by and say nothing, because i think i have a duty as the republican leader to defend republican principles and our party's brand if i think they're being distorted. and so that's what i said i would do back then when i supported him, and that's what i am continuing to do if and when i see these situations arise. >> would there ever be a bridge too far? >> i've always said, of course there are moments. i'm not going to get into the speculation or hypotheticals. none of these things are ever
blank checks. that goes in any situation in any kind of race. let's begin in portland, maine. jason carroll is standing by live. do we think trump will stay on message? >> reporter: well, look, i think that's what the hope is among many in the gop, that donald trump does stay on message. he certainly did yesterday in daytona beach for a while when he had his rally there. he really went after clinton on a number of issues, that $0 $40 million payment to iran, her and the to handle the economy, her trustworthiness. he hammered her hard on a number of issueissues. and that's what those in the gop want to see more of, more focus on hillary clinton. yesterday in daytona beach he did stay on topic for most of it but he did deter after that and started talking about things he's been through before, his issues with megyn kelly, the issue of perhaps making fun of a
disabled reporter. these are the things that those within the gop say, okay, we've litigated this before. enough. move beyond that, focus on the issues, focus on hillary clinton, stay focused on what she can and cannot do. and that's much of what he did yesterday. in terms of if he'll take on paul ryan here today in portland, i doubt that he'll do that. i can tell you one thing, when you talk to people who come out to these rallies as i did yet in daytona and here again today, this whole issue between trump and paul ryan isn't resonating with his base. they say paul ryan is part of the establishment. donald trump is the outsider. he's the anti-establishment. so why wouldn't there be sort of tension between those who are in and those who are out? that's what they expect. they look at this man and they say, we are behind him 100%. doesn't matter if he endorses or does not endorse paul ryan. so as for the ryan issue, doubt he'll bring it up here. but once again the hope is that
he stays focused on one name, and that's hillary clinton. >> all right, jason, thank you. we'll take trump live. we'll dip in this a couple of minutes. thank you. hillary clinton also about to take to her own stage. she's holding a rally in las vegas fresh off new poll numbers that have her leading in three critical states. you see them there -- michigan, pennsylvania and new hampshire. joining me now from her rally, joe johns, cnn's senior washington correspondent. joe johns, set the stage for me there in vegas and obviously they have to be thrilled in brooklyn today over those poll numbers. >> reporter: yeah. i think you're right. this is the international brotherhood of electrical workers. obviously organized labor here in las vegas. i have to tell you, when you talk about the polls, numerous polls showing good news for hillary clinton. you look at some of the energy on the campaign trail last night. i was in commerce city in
colorado. a lot of energy in that room for hillary clinton. and then you look at some of the other intangibles, for example, right now she's doing a tour of mohave electricity here in las vegas. normally when a candidate of this caliber goes to a business on a campaign stop, it's usually run by, owned by, a loyal member of her own party. well, in this instance, she's touring mohave electric which was founded by what they call a supportive republican, meaning a republican who supports hillary clinton and that plays into their narrative of trying to get more and more republicans on hillary clinton's side. she also talked just a little bit ago there in mojave electric about donald trump and the thing she's been pushing about so much here on campaign trail very recently, and that would be donald trump outsourcing jobs when he makes things in other
countries. listen. >> donald trump says the reason that he makes so many of his products overseas is because of the market, because it is just too expensive to do it here right now and that he would change that market as president. >> you know, when you run for president, you need to be judged by what you have done. i think the evidence is pretty clear. everything he's made, he's made somewhere else. he's not put americans to work. he's imported foreign workers instead of hiring americans at his country clubs and his resorts. he has cheated contractors. i take that personally. my father was a small businessman. and he got contracts and if he showed up after having done all the work, printed the fabrics for the draperies that were going to be made and told, as trump told countless small businesses, i'm not going to pay you, i don't know what would have happened to our family but i've met people who were destroyed by donald trump. so take a look at what he's done. not what he says. thank you all.
>> reporter: so that's been the theme. it's been billed as something to talk about the economy, jobs, business, but she's also been taking a lot of shots at donald trump. back to you. >> joe johns, thank you in vegas. just to get into those poll numbers that joe just mentioned that bode well for hillary clinton today, in the rust belt state of pennsylvania, hillary clinton now leads trump by 13 points. michigan, she is up by nine. there you see the numbers. and her biggest lead is in new hampshire. she is ahead double digits, 15 points. with me now, a.b. stoddard, andre bower, and cnn political commentator bill prest. great to have you all with me. a.b., on the polls, new hampshire, pennsylvania, michigan and how hillary clinton is doing so well, my question to you is, how is that affecting
then down ballot, and specifically senate race in new hampshire? >> well, it's terrified news for a senator who's running in a very tight race who's running against the govern or of new hampshire when donald trump was doing well there and she was sort of trying to stand by him. she has endorsed him and not revoked it. things were looking better. but if hillary really is surging there and is going to hold a solid lead there, that imperils her there. senator rob portman in ohio, on the other hand, where those numbers have been tied a lot between clinton and trump, portman is doing better than trump is doing in that state. there are different scenarios for different individual republicans who are running in cycle this year in states obama won. they have their different challenges. of course, in the last couple days, donald trump has made it more challenging for them. >> andre, on donald trump, who you are supporting, listen. you can say maybe poll numbers don't matter, although we agree
that those states definitely matter if you want to win the white house. you also have paul ryan, the highest ranking republican who's essentially told this radio reporter this morning that he would consider revoking his endorsement of mr. trump, that his endorsement -- i'm paraphrasing -- wasn't a plank check. do you care? >> well, i care because i want him to be able to get something done in washington and it works a lot better if you can get along with the speaker of the house. newt gingrich proved that even working across the aisle with bill clinton. i would say on poll numbers, donald trump's poll numbers haven't been true. most of the time they favored him even when the polls said he wasn't going to do well because so many of the people that he's inspiring to come out and vote aren't showing up on polls. i've never actually been polled so i think a lot of folks that come out that are not historical voters are going to come out and vote for donald trump. so he has a huge segment of folks that have come out that did in the republican primaries
that didn't show up on the radar. >> what about this, bill prest, also news today that trump is getting closer to hillary clinton when it comes to money posting $80 million last month, closing the gap with her. interestingly, like your favorite bernie sanders and how he collected his money with these small dollar donations. >> i don't know that the extent of the small dollar donations. but yeah, he had a good month. >> a lot of small dollars. >> a lot of them but i doubt he's in the bernie sanders exclusive $27 category. but he got a lot of money. he has a lot to catch up on. hillary clinton has been at the $50 million, $60 million mark for months and has been running ads like all summer. >> she's already spent money on stuff he has yet to -- >> donald trump was not even on the air. but i have to say something about these polls. i did write a book about buyer's remorse, about president obama. i think the shoe is on the other foot right now. meaning republicans are having buyers remorse --
>> over supporting donald trump? >> only two weeks after the convention when they nominated him, they see his convention lead has disappeared, his convention bounce as disappeared, he's behind in these swing states. then they see him just one bonkers statement after another to the point where rudy giuliani and newt gingrich are saying maybe we need an intervention to get the campaign back on track. i bet you there are enough republicans, if they could do it, who would take that nomination away from him today. >> on that though, let me follow up with you. then andre, i'll come to you. i feel like i've talked to voters who have perhaps had that buyer's remorse on trump. mike pence. mike pence supports paul ryan. he comes from the establishment wing of the republican party. it's okay. does that allay fears? >> no. no. no. >> i know you're not a republican. >> if i were a republican, no, it doesn't. as paul manafort said yesterday, mr. trump is controlling his own campaign. this is the trump campaign.
he's the one who threw the baby out of the rally. he is the one who said he would not endorse paul ryan or john mccain. he is the one who brought up again yet megyn kelly. he is out of control. and all mike pence, he's like the guy in the circus parade sweeping up the you-know-what after the elephants. >> after sweeping up the you-know-what and the other points bill made, what are you thinking, andre? >> well, couple points. number one, bill, i like bill a lot. he describes things very well. >> back at you. >> the fact that trump was actually neck and neck with hilly all those months with being dark, we all know in politics, if one candidate's spending money and one's not, what the numbers do. even where she was spending tens of millions of dollars in the swing states her numbers still weren't moving a whole bunch compared to trump's. >> but what about his point
about staying on message versus going off on some thread? >> well, look, i would like for donald trump to stay on message a little bit more. that would be me. he's definitely not a seasoned politician. we all know that. we know with him we get a different approach to campaigning and to governing. that's part of the refreshing part. not all of it do i agree with. nor a lot of people. but do i agree with it a whole lot more than hillary clinton? absolutely. >> they keep coming back to that. that's all they've got, brooke, is to come back to no matter what he does, he's better than having hillary clinton. >> that's the unifier though. i was in cleveland. screams in that arena -- >> that's all they've got. i would suggest that's not enough to convince the american people where you want to take this country. >> a.b.? does he have a point? >> i -- i want to agree first with andre that 40-1 outspending donald trump on advertising got hillary nowhere. week ago she was behind trump in the polls. we don't know how long -- how
solid this lead is and how long it will last. but what she's doing effectively is she's making people feel that donald trump is too scary to take a risk on, even though he's the outsider that both parties want. that's something that she's using to great effect so far if the polls show she shoe's making in-roads with republicans. >> i can say one other thing? >> sure. >> it is stunning really that the republican speaker of the house would suggest that he would un-endorse the republican nominee for president. we have never seen anything like that in american politics. and you know why he's doing it? because he is concerned about keeping control of the house. the down ballot. >> then andre, let me ask you about paul ryan. we've heard this phrase before, beyond the pale. right? some time ago when he was talking about in the wake of trump's comments on the judge in california, beyond the pale. then he was talking today,
beyond the pale, he talked about trump's family comments beyond the pale. how many beyond the pales is paul ryan going to say with regard to the republican nominee? >> i don't know how many he's going to take. some of them, quite frankly, i agree with donald trump on. not oall of them. but there are instances where i think it is fair for the khan family, for example. it is a tragic loss that they lost a son. but when you start connecting the dots on mr. khan and his relationship with the clinton foundation and the clintons, it is not like he is just an arbitrary gold star family. that's not the case. so i think donald trump is more than fair to call out mr. khan. for him to hide behind his son's death and become political and start doing tv shows -- >> a gold star family means they lost their son in action. >> no question. but to allow him to now become political and be able to throw stones without respond something not right, either. >> i talked to the family from
the rnc. your heart goes out to both of them. >> you didn't see her gold star families, andre, some of them are okay and some are not okay. >> i'm not saying they're okay or not okay. but he has gotten -- >> these families made the ultimate sacrifice. they are not fair game and this is hurting donald trump. it is hurting the republican party. get off it. i would just say, we would not be talking about this a week later. that speech, as powerful as it was, would have been forgotten if donald trump hadn't gone on the attack and attack and attack and kept it up. >> let's move past that. let me ask a. 3w679 abob. about approval rating. a four-year high here in his second term. a reagan high, a clinton high. how much do you think this helps hillary clinton? >> i think it does. she's obviously running to be the third term of obama.
she'd have to defy historical odds to keep the white house for a third term for her party. it just has not happened, were the exception of george herbert walker bush for more than 50 years or something. she's going to cling to that. she can now bring him campaigning in places he wouldn't have campaigned in 2014 when he was still unpopular. we're going to be watching in the months to come if the right track/wrong track numbers are more important than his approval rating as an incumbent president. will be interesting to see what matters more. >> thank you all so much. again, we're watching and waiting to hear from donald trump speaking in portland, maine. that's the little box on your screen. also a short time from now, president obama will be hold being a news conference from the pentagon. certainly will face questions about that $40 million in cash the u.s. sent in that unmarked cargo plane -- $400 million -- to iran in january. critics say ransom, white house says, no, it wasn't. this is all back to an arms deal from '79.
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ever took off in january. president obama and the state department approved the plan anyway. when you hear from the white house, they are pushing back, insisting the $400 million was not at all ransom money for those four hostages. it was a long overdue money, iran's money to have, for a failed arms deal dating back to 1979. joining me now, former assicssat homeland security secretary, hello to both of you. you used to work for president obama. let's just begin there. we are hearing from him in about an hour. he has to address this. what does he say? >> i don't get it. this story is like one of those that -- i just don't get. in january the president announces three different pieces of an iran deal, the nuclear
deal, the hostages and the $400 million payment. some reporter discovers -- a good reporter discovers the way that they actually pay for it is not with a check because that's actually against the law but through a payment in the movement of money. there were disagreements potentially within the united states government. to me, this is like -- i don't even get the story. because the truth is, there were different negotiators for all three tracks and this was disclosed in january. so i mean if i were the white house, i'd just be like -- yeah, you now are listening to what we told you in january. >> no big deal. you think it is no big deal? >> if it was no big deal why did we wait until now to hear about it and why did they come out with a line that's quite honestly laughable that this is coincidental. the same day. this is money that's been owed since the period of the shah, and the money all of a sudden shows up in cash which by the way is also untraceable and therefore can be used for any
number of nefarious purposes without any hope of the u.s. knowing where that money is going. the u.s. has said it may well in fact be going to finance terrorism. they could have told us about it when it happened if they didn't feel somewhat shady about the process, if ty didn't think people would recognize timing matters, optics as they say in d.c. matters, and all of this smells. it smells funny. why they didn't tell us about it in the very beginning and this is why they are holding a press conference. because when they say it is a coinciden coincidence, everybody laughs in their faces. come on, we can figure this out. >> you guys are like this far apart. >> we usually get along so well. >> we're normally on the same page. no. i guess i just honestly do not get this. in january there was disclosure that all three pieces -- everyone is shocked about apparently the method of payment that it was at night and no the in u.s. dollars. the law prohibits u.s. dollars. so that's like the -- i guess that's the piece that we're
outraged at. the truth is behind us is probably outrage at least by politicians who don't like the iran deal itself. that's where the faux outrage appears. this is not like $400 million appeared out of nowhere and we're like going to secretly pay it. this was a well known litigation going on between two countries since 1979 that gets resolved as part of a year-long -- >> trump is saying, secretary clinton -- >> it happens on that day. we all know why it happened on that day. there are reasons why people in the department of justice thought this also looked shady because it looks like an inducement to do something with the cash that is a ransom payment. >> to your point, does this help trump? he is pointing fingers at the administration and pointing fingers at hillary clinton. >> yeah. i think anything that makes the administration look dishonest, whether their unwillingness to
discuss jihadism, this is sort of the pack the iran deal to see what's in it version -- >> donald trump is talking right now. sorry, time-out. here we go. >> what's going on. what is going on? you see it? you don't believe it? $400 million in cash. being flown in an airplane to iran. i wonder where that money really goes, by the way. right? i wonder where it really goes. well, it went to -- either in their pockets, which i actually think more so. or towards terrorism. probably a combination of both. so $400 million in cash. now you'd really -- who can authorize even in terms of a president, who can authorize $400,000 in cash? different currencies. they didn't want the dollar. they wanted different countries, different currencies. they've got a little bit of everything over there. i guess spread it around.
how stupid are we. how stupid are we. to allow this to continue to go on. to see what happens. you know, it was interesting because a tape was made. you saw that with the airplane coming in. nice plane. the airplane coming in. and the money coming off, i guess. right? that was given to us -- has to be -- by the iranians. you know why the tape was given to us? because they want to embarrass our country. they want to embarrass our country. they want to embarrass our president. because we have a president who's incompetent. they want to embarrass -- they want to embarrass our president. i mean who would ever think that there would be taking all of this money off the plane and then providing us with a tape? it's only for one reason. it's very, very sad. so we have a lot of problems in our country. we have border problems. people are pouring into our country. we have no idea who they are. we have people -- we're going to
build a wall, folks. don't worry about it. up here you have tremendous heroin problems. comes from the southern border. but you have tremendous problems. and i'll tell you what, we're going to get -- we're going to build a wall. you know, we have another thing. we have 16,500 -- you can do whatever you want -- go ahead. do whatever you want. do whatever you want.
[ indiscernible shouting ] >> well, you have to say, you know? a trump rally is the safest place in our country to be. believe me. believe me. right? they're safe. but, if we keep going the way it is, our whole country's becoming different. they're shooting our police in roar levels. you saw where i said in my speech, 50% higher. and then they went out and they looked -- [ someone blowing a whistle ]
>> isn't that amazing? isn't that amazing? sort of rude. you know, when you think of it. and what are we looking for? we want strong military. we want jobs. we want good education. health care. right? we're all like looking for the first -- we're looking for the same thing, sort of. you want to have a good life. you want to have a good life. you want safety. and then we have people interrupting constantly. but actually, it hasn't been happening much. it's happening a little bit today, but it hasn't been happening much. i sort of missed my protesters.
you know? and we don't get them from hillary. because, you know, the bernie people had spirit. we don't get it from hillary. because they don't care. they don't care. but you look at what's happening in terms of they're shooting our police at record levels. 50% up. i said 50%, it's actually much higher than that from last year. so we need law and order. we have to have it. we have to have it. we need law and order. we got to protect our police. and our police have to be careful. and they have to do their job and they have to do it direcorry and they will do it correctly. but we have to take care of our police. i'll tell you. they're really going through a tough time. so, i wrote a little thing down that i thought i'd have. because in light of the $400 million that just got ripped away from our country, all right, and the real number -- you look at it -- $150 billion. we got nothing. we got nothing. and they think they probably
paid the $400 million for the hostages which is even worse. and now since then, i don't know if you know, we have two more hostages right now. why wouldn't they? we have two more hostages right now who are fairly recently grabbed and they're in iran. and i guess what are we going to do with that one, right? so they do $400 million gets flown at night into iran. i think it is so sad and so disgusting and you also wonder about a government, who could approve a thing like that where they take cash into a country and just hand it to them? bushels and bushels of cash? and then you look at our country where we owe $20 trillion -- i used to a18 trillion. used to say $17. when i started i was saying 16 and 17. now i say 19. it is going to be 22 very soon because we have a budget that is very, very expensive but it
doesn't take care of our military. our military is depleted. we have to mix our military. i know for the navy, one of the reporters was talking about -- one of the reporters, how do you feel about building ships because you have a lot of ships you're building up here. good ones, right? so our navy, as you know, has one of the lowest numbers of ships that they've had in decades and decades. and we've got to rebuild our navy. we've got to rebuild our whole military, folks. and we're going to do it. probably almost never have needed it more than we need it now with all of the people out there that don't like us very much. and we're going to be very strong, we're going to be very smart. we're going to build up our military. it is so depleted. we're going to take care of our vets. we're going to take care of our vets. our vets -- our vets are so badly treated, you look at
what's going on where they wait online six, seven, eight days. think of it. you're not a vet. think of it in the audience. six, seven, eight days. people are dying online waiting for doctors. and committing suicide. the suicides are at numbers that nobody's ever thought possible. we're going to take care of our vets. i put a plan in. people are loving the plan. people are loving the plan. and if you're waiting -- if you're waiting in line for an extended period of time, you're going to walk outside, you're going to go to a doctor who's looking for business, go to a hospital, private or public, you're going to get taken care of and it is going to be less expensive. the government's going to pay the bill. it is going to be far less expensive than what's been happening. people are dying waiting in line for a simple pill -- >> all right, so you heard donald trump. how about the timing, we were discussing the $400 million,
optics of it, the no big dealness of it from your perspective. we know the president will be speaking from the pentagon. he's been meeting with the chiefs so he'll address it and what this means. i also want to mention, i think that's second time we've heard donald trump mention the existence of some tape he's seen of the transfer of this $400 million in cash in iran. to my knowledge, i don't know if it exists or not. i'm sure we have people working on that very point. but on the politics of this, we -- i was asking you, trump is using this obviously as a tactic to pin this on the administration, ergo pin it on hillary clinton. >> there are already a lot of people very critical tending to be on right but not all on the right who are very critical of the iran deal overall, the way that it's been set up. but this then goes to the inducements to get the deal done, this sort of sweeteners that were added in.
it looks like the obama administration went to the mullahs on bended knee and said anything for a deal, what can we do. >> iran said there was no ultimatum. >> sure, that's fine. iranian press has already said, for example, that the $400 million was in response to them releasing the hostages this they were holding. they've already used this for their own internal -- >> that's the iranian press. >> but they are using that for internal propaganda purposes essentially saying the great satan knows all the mistakes they've made. coming to us now hat in hand begging us for a deal. it is terrible if you are an iranian moderate. we can't yet judge where the deal is going because obviously it has a long horizon on it but what it took to get us there, it seemed like obama walked in and said whatever you need, we'll do. what did the iranians not get in this that they wanted? >> here's where we will agree. this is all about criticisms of the iranian deal which has been litigated and relitigated and your side lost. i don't know how else to put it.
you can get into the little pieces of, oh, they were on an airplane overnight. like who cares? in the sense that you had three negotiations going on. this all comes down to disagreements with the iranian nuclear deal. that hos nothing to do with whether the cash was on a plane or not. that's the first thing. the second thing is this for viewers who are wondering how should i interpret this. this $400 million did not come out of nowhere. it is not like $400 million, we'll get a bump nch of hostage back. this is a disagreement with iran and the u.s. which never had negotiations until the last couple years since 1979. the burden on the united states if we lost in court would have been in the billions so we settled. right? so that is where that number comes from. it is not mysterious. it was disclosed in january and anyone following iran/u.s. relations knew this this was a piece of the puzzle. so they can say, well, it looks bad. but it ultimately comes down to they don't like the substance --
>> quickly. >> we'll see how the iran deal actually unfolds. i think a lot of us are pessimistic about it for good reason. why are we only finding out about it now if it was no problem? why did department of justice officials say -- >> we knew about the $400 million. we didn't know about the method and the cash. >> just because you didn't know about it. >> looking bad actually matters. >> we'll hear the president address all of this very shortly. he's holding a news conference from the pentagon in just a little while. also we are waiting to hear from hillary clinton. live pictures on the right side of your screen. we'll see her in las vegas. again, donald trump speaking in portland, maine. it is not a dull august day. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. we'll be right back. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways
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right now, florida's governor, rick scott, speaking about the zika virus that has reached his state. meanwhile, in brazil where the outbreak started, a number of couples are choosing to delay starting a family simply because of the concerns over zika and the possibility of devastating birth deeffects. cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is live in rio de janeiro where the summer olympics kick off tomorrow. so, sanjay, on these athletes, a number of them are skipping the games because of fears of zika. what are people who live there in brazil, in rio, what sort of precautions are they taking? >> reporter: well, you know, brooke, they're doing anything
they can. it is really not just a small area. it is really the entire country that's been given these warnings. zika has prompted some pretty remarkable recommendations and remarkable planning. here's a little bit of what we found. all across salvador, brazil, rooms sit empty. like this one. no sign of the child she hoped to have. is it tough to see this room empty? >> reporter: they were high school sweet hearts and children were always part of the plan. but it was late last year when anna and alberto decided the time was finally right. >> translator: we were planning to get pregnant this year but because of zika we decided to wait more. there isn't much we can do about it and it worries us. >> reporter: he see, whether a link between zika and birth defects became clearer, the brazilian government gave a stern and heartbreaking warning -- don't get pregnant.
so these are the tanks. >> these are the tanks that we keep the embryos. the eggs and the semen. >> anna's embryos are in one of these tanks? >> yeah, sure. >> reporter: this doctor has been a fertility doc in salvador for ten years. see first saw anna a year ago for help with fertility. but then zika started to spread. >> i suggest, okay, freeze your embryos. and then later when there is like a solution or a light at the end of the tunnel with all this, you can decide. >> reporter: at a cost of around $8,000, this is not an option for most of the population here where the average income is just a few hundred dollars a month and many don't have access to birth control. for most people, like bruno and vanessa, delaying is the only option. for the time being, they are also living with an empty room. how long will you wait?
what's next for you? >> translator: we hope that with all the research and people studying it, it gets better in two or three years. >> two or three years? you can wait that long? >> translator: i will try. it's already been really hard. >> reporter: it is difficult to imagine entire towns, even countries, with hardly any new babies for two years. hard to imagine the loss economically, socially, culturally. no babies crying. or laughing. in the meantime, rooms will stay empty, even as names are already chosen. >> translator: the child isn't even born but she already has a name. the girl is going to be named vallentina. >> you already have named picked out sfp. >> john. john. >> you are confident that you will have a baby one day? >> translator: i'm so sure. i'm really confident that this home will soon have three people inhere instead of two. it is just a matter of time. >> reporter: so, brooke, you can
understand that light at the end of the tunnel means a lot of different things. but here they really are looking at the possibility of a vaccine. that's what a light at the end of the tunnel means. there aren't many mosquitos here right now. as a result the concern is lower. but as the weather gets warmer, those concerns will come up again. so a vaccine is what everyone's got their eye on so people can start having babies again. >> hopefully that happens, san sanjay gupta in rio, thank you. president obama is celebrating his fitness as a father. on this his 50th birthday. in "glamour" magazine, the president honors the women in his life and reflects on his own shortcomings as a parent. you pay your car insurance premium like clockwork.
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here is a quote, "i'm a feminist." that is the words of barack obama. he penned an essay for "glamour" magazine. on that, so much to discuss. author of serging for white topia. liz plank is also with us. welcome to all of you. and there is so much to dig into in this. i think what struck me the most was how perm he got when he hoped for, he said dads are gone
so much for work, and now he is around because he is 45 seconds from his office. >> i appreciated that he explicitly that reproductive rights. that was very important to make explicit. >> let me ask you, liz, can we define -- what is it, is it definable when we say feminist and throw this word around, what does it mean? >> i think it means whatever you want it to mean, but i think women in this country know what it means when president obama says it. we have to say, he has set a new precedent for women's rights when it comes to being the first sitting president to say he is a feminist. he doesn't just say "believe me," he walks that walk.
the policies and appointments he made as a president are unprecedented. one of the first things he did was sign the lily ledbetter act. he ired a transwoman staffer, a woman to the head of the secret service. when he says he is a feminist, he means it. >> i wanted to make sure i had a man on my feminist panel today, and you got the gold star for that one today. >> reading it from your eyes what struck you from this piece? >> what struck me is he spoke from the heart. he said he has a 45 second commute, he spoke about his daughters, but the sub text is that this man is such an elegant 21st century rolemodel for fatherhood and manhood. i agree with business, even ten years ago, feminist was like
liberal. a dirty word. but for a man and a president to proclaim himself a feminist in such a. persuasive way, i think that will touch a lot of readers. >> how lucky is he to be 45 seconds away from his family . p i realize he is busy, but talking about how important the women are in his life. >> but even if he didn't have women in his life, it is not a prerequisite. and it should not be a gay relative is not a prerequisite of wants equal rights for gays.
>> let me bring something else in, he said michelle obama, even after achieving success in her own right, she held doubts. she had to worry if she looked the right way, acted the right way, was too assertive or too angry. we heard her address it in the past. here she is. >> it is your interesting to imagine the conflicting situation here. a strong woman, the day -- that i don't come across as some angry black woman. >> how do you do that? >> i just try to be me, and i hope that over time people get to know me. rich, you laughed, why?
>> well, i totally identify and relate which what she is saying. you can dismiss such an accomplished person as an angry black woman and just dismiss her like that. she went to princeton, ran a wonderful hospital service, and she's right, people can dismiss her. for some it may resonate, for others it does not. >> when he talked about women, he generally also called out the extra burden on black women to conform or bush back against the ster ro stereotypes. >> he says we need to breakthrough the limitations and keep challenging the attitude that raises our girls to be demure and our girls to be
assertive. i'm from the south. i know about being demure. is thatle case in 2016. boys are assertive and girls demure? >> absolutely. and that we should not punish boys for shedding a fear. it is about how feminism can help men and boys as well. we had a great conversation about feminism for the last few years, and helping women navigate that, but we need to help men navigate that too and we need them in that conversation. and this is something that president obama has done. the "it's on us" campaign. sexual assault that is a epidemic on our campuses. bringing men into the
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