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new polls spelling trouble for donald trump in he is battle with hillary clinton. this is "cnn tonight". i'm don lemon. the democratic candidate is show impressive gains. john king breaking down the
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number. >> we pick president state by state. tough news for donald trump when you go through those, too. michigan, a place donald trump has said i'd like to compete. a 9-point clinton lead in this new "detroit news" poll in the state of michigan. pennsylvania, a state a lot of republicans think trump is going to have to win if he's going to be president of the united states. an 11-point lead in the state of pennsylvania. new hampshire, a smaller battleground state but those four votes can matter in a close election. boom, look at that, a 14-point lead for clinton in battleground new hampshire, 3 for 3 there. and the fourth one in donald trump's second home state, a closer race but a 4-point clinton lead in florida. florida, michigan, pennsylvania, new hampshire. why is this happening? let's start in pennsylvania. pull these number out. take a look right here. one thing we've seen post convention and this is pretty consistent, hillary clinton has
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largely consolidated the democratic party. she's getting the vote of nearly 8 in 10 democrats. donald trump getting the votes of on 7 in 10 republicans. he still has a problem in the republican party hurting him. let's go back to new hampshire. we see again similar dynamic. more than 80% of democrats say they're for clinton but only 61% of republicans say they're for trump. a problem in the republican family and in the poll numbers. florida gets a little confusing here. florida is a little closer. hillary clinton does have some problems with democrats. she's getting only 74%, 71% for trump there. so a bit closer because she has consolidating to do. look at all these states. she leads with independents in florida, leads big with independents in new hampshire, she leads with independents in pennsylvania. that has been a big trend post convention. how does this work, don? let's flip it over. we pick presidents state by state. if hillary clinton based on what
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we already give her holds michigan, which we have leaning blue and wins pennsylvania, wins florida and wins new hampshire, it's more than game over. that is why even though it's early and it's only august, you start looking at the national polls and then you look at the state-by-state polls, donald trump is in a bit of a ditch. the first rule of holes, stop digging. >> john king, thank you very. i want to bring in the editor and chief of think progress, cnn political contributor and andre bauer, the former state government of south carolina. good evening to all of you. tough news for donald trump. hi, maria. tough news for donald trump in the battleground state, especially the mcclatchy/marist
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poll. >> trump has got to get back on message and needs to hammer home his ability over hers and explain to the american why he can create jobs in a better economic environment than they currently have. he continues to have this amazing fund-raising month. he needs to have another one so he can have the troops out there in those battleground states to have a mechanism to get his folks to the polls. he's got to hone back in on a message and he's missed some great opportunities to really put it to hillary that he hadn't capitalized on. >> maria, 96 days still a long time in politics. >> it is. >> what does hillary clinton have to do to maintain this lead? >> well, i think, first of all, she's going to continue to do what she has been doing since she and tim kaine left philadelphia, which is to go around to battle ground states, to all of the american
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communities who are really looking to hear what it is that a potential next president is going to do for them. they are talking about bringing back -- continuing to bring back good paying jobs. they're talking about worker training. they're talking about education. they're talking to real people about real solutions. that's what she's got to continue to do. and then also focus on that she is going to deal with these problems in a way that brings people together. she's got a great slogan, it's called stronger together. it's something that we saw for four days at the philadelphia convention, which was a big contrast to what donald trump has been saying and frankly has been doing. i think all she has to do is continue on that message and donald trump is going to continue his unraveling because andre and the republicans say he's got to get back on message but the problem for them is he is the message and he can't help himself. >> you said there was something
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very astute. you said there's a danger in democrats getting overly confident. why do you say that? >> it's easy to forget it was only ten days ago there were national polls coming out with trump ahead 2, 3 points. today we've seen polls with hillary ahead 10 points, 15 points. but these elections can have -- there's a long time to go. 90 days is a long period of time and there can be some more ups and downs, i think technically hillary is able to do better when the pressure is on or when she's feeling really motivated, we've seen her rise to the occasion. >> i want to play a clip of donald trump today at his rally talking about the $400 million that the obama administration sent to iran. >> you know it was interesting because a tape was made. you saw that with the airplane coming in, nice plane, the
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airplane coming in and the money coming off, i guess, right? that was given to us, has to be, by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us? because they want to embarrass our country. they want to embarrass our country. and they want to embarrass our president because we have a president who's incompetent. they want to embarrass -- they want to embarrass our president. i mean, who would ever think that they would be taking all of this money off the plane and then providing us with a tape. it only for one reason and it's very, very sad. >> andre, you know what the problem with that is, that there is no evidence that there's any tape. so why then does he continue to claim that there is? >> i don't know that there's a tape or not. i haven't seen it, don. i would think if he makes that claim surely he's got a tape to back it up. again, i have no idea. >> there is no tape.
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at one point his campaign said he was talking about the soldiers getting off the plane once they had been released. but right no there's no evidence of any tape. he's been made aware of that and he continues to make that claim. why would he do that when right now -- >> i would rather him, don -- if i were him, i'd be pointing out the fact that hillary clinton had a meeting -- had warren buffett next to her and say we're going to raise taxes on the middle class. i would be hammering home stuff like that. i wouldn't be talking about a tape but i'm not the candidate. >> okay. >> hey, don, can i just -- >> but you're a surrogate who speaks -- you guys, do you talk to the campaign about why? >> he's not listening to me. >> he should. >> do his people listen to you? do you guys talk to each other? >> we still send carrier pigeons and smoke signals, don. >> that means no. let's move on. maria, what were you going to say? >> i was going to say that i
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couldn't agree more with judd. i think the problem that democrats can run into is that because donald trump every single day, sometimes multiple times a day says such outrageous things, that common sense americans, democrats, independents and even right-thinking republicans say there's no way this man can be elected to be or commander in chief, we don't want to fall into that complacency. he has such a low bar of expectations. if he comes out one day and sticks to the teleprompter and doesn't insult everybody, people think he looks presidential. so hillary needs to continue to focus on message. >> in an interview -- don't worry, judd, i'm going to get to you. maria, in an interview with a denver television station, hillary clinton said this about the investigation into her private e-mail service. "and as the fbi said everything
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that i've said publicly has been consistent and truthful with what i've told them." but the director comey has said it's not true so why then does she continue to say that? >> i do wish that she would actually say exactly what he said, which this has been very clear in the hearings and what he said is that there is absolutely no evidence to show that she misled the fbi or that she lied to the fbi, which is exactly what republicans have been hammering her for. >> so do you talk to the campaign? do they explain to you why she keeps saying this if it's not true? >> no, i have not talked to the campaign about that, but, again, they have this, right? this is something that known, this is on the record, this is something that comey said in front of congress and it's something that they should use because i do think that is absolute absolutely exonerating against what republicans are trying to
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hit her for. >> judd, what's going on here? >> it's an excellent question. this is a campaign unlike any other that we've seen. the e-mail situation has been going on for pretty much the entire length of the campaign, maybe even before it began. i do think that hillary is trying to lean on the idea that she was exonerated by the fbi as far as any charges. but to me, it's a different level -- she's not being quite as precise as she needs to be describing how they came to that decision, but it's a different level to completely invent something out of whole cloth, this idea that there's a video, that there's going to be a transfer of money that doesn't even exist and to me it's a pattern on multiple subjects. >> so then why do you say trump is not necessarily off message? what do you mean by that?
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>> well, i think this is his message. i think the thing that's the most damaging has been his attacks on the cons. that message -- the problem with that is not only, one, are you attacking a gold star family, but the second thing is it was bigoted towards muslims. he talked about the wife not speaking and said that was because of her muslim faith, which wasn't true. he talked about mr. khan not -- opposing his policies because he didn't like the idea that he was trying to keep terrorism out. this is considered off message but the reality is bigotry towards muslims is the message of donald trump. he stood up on a stage in december before any votes were cast and said we're going to have a total ban on all muslim immigration into the united states. so unfortunately, i know that there's probably -- and andre seems like a smart republican saying, hey, we need to get on to messaging and something
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that's going to do well. that is the message. >> paul manafort was on cbs this morning still claiming that the campaign is on track but listen closely to the word he's choosing. >> if we're out there on our message, which we will be, the framework of this election favors donald trump. if we run the campaign that we plan on running, we think we're going to win. we don't plan on winning in august. we plan on winning in november. >> andre, if we run the campaign that we plan on running, is he acknowledging that he can't control donald trump? >> i don't know what he means by that. you know, hopefully he means do we have the funding, the ground troops, the message. hillary's been up on air with a pounding message that didn't move a whole lot of numbers until this last week, which is a good thing for donald trump. the fact that he's been able to be dark and she spent tens of millions of dollars and they stayed neck and neck week after
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week after week shows he has potential to still win this thing. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. coming up new york city's top cop says donald trump scares him. i'm going to ask commissioner william bratton why he feels that way next. and a video profile of some of the supporters showing up at donald trump's rallies. some may find it a bit disturbing. americans are buying more and more of everything online. and so many businesses rely on the united states postal service to get it there. because when you ship with us, your business becomes our business. that's why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. the united states postal service. priority: you
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toughest, most high-profile jobs is stepping aside. why are you leaving us? you've led the forces in boston, los angeles, twice here in new york city, wide live cred itd with reducing crime in new york city, reforming police departments all across the country. can you talk about the legacy you leave behind. are you comfortable with the hand you're leaving the new york city police department in? >> i'm comfortable that i'm leaving at a good time professionally and personally. crime continues to go down to historic low levels as it has for 25 years. the technology we brought into the department, there's nothing like it anywhere in policing. the policies and procedures put into place leading american policing also. so it's a good time for me go
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along to new opportunities. and i'm looking forward to that. >> cities like baltimore, chicago, ferguson, there are many people -- they say they're more afraid of police than they are of criminals and police also fear doing their jobs could get them in trouble and, you know, at the worst case killed. what do you do to restore the trust in those communities? what advice can you offer? >> that's a great question because that is the challenge. how do we gain it where we never had it, improve it we we do have it and expand on it where we've never have it. the idea is to try to find common ground that we can get on and understand each other. in new york city we have a major initiative that the mayor has supported and funded, the neighborhood policing initial tiff. one of the reasons why my successor, jimmy o'neill, got the job is because he's putting
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that into place, he believes in it. it is the idea of procedural justice, police legitimacy, understanding the issue of implicit bias. the new york city police department is probably further along in understanding all these issues, training for them, implementing them than just about any other place in america. it pa it's part of the reason why crime continues to go down and why disturbances are less than elsewhere in america. we're on a journey, we haven't arrived at our destination. but we want to move forward. half the battle is you have to admit that you need to change. >> new york city, we had one of the biggest terror attacks ever, the 9/11 attacks, isis and now isis telling its followers to strike in cities in the u.s. the president saying today that isis is no longer trying for
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big 9/11-style attacks. are you confident that new york city is prepared for those types of attacks? >> i certainly am. we came into office and john mill, head of counterterrorism just as isis came on to the map. al qaeda was all about the big attack. they pulled off 9/11 and wanted to pull it off again. isis from its beginning was focused on using social media to inspire, to enable and a sense in giving instructions through their social media, the magazine or to direct like the paris attacks were directed by them. they're now understanding that they can really through social media inspire people to take an ax, take a car, take a gun and they've found great results from that. that's what's most fearsome about isis, their ability to inspire. it a whole new world. fortunately in new york we have a large amount of resources to focus on it. no american city has as much as we do and we need to have as much as we do because we remain the number one terrorist target
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in the world. >> you have seen a lot of politicians come and go. in this job you have to deal with the commander in chief. >> seen a lot of commissioners comes and go. >> i have to talk about the current state of politics and donald trump because he's in the city. do you think he's qualified to be president? >> i have concerns about mr. trump. i've referenced those that i worry about his lack of compass as evidenced by the issue around the gold star parents, the failure to understand the importance of the purple heart. as a veteran, as a vietnam war veteran, i just don't understand the veteran support for him and the reaction to receiving a purple heart and his comments about it were just indicative to me of an individual who doesn't understand a lot of what's so important about being a leader and in terms of being president of the united states, a lot of
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it is having compassion for fallen soldiers and their families, a lot of it is understanding the importance and history of what certain medals are given for. the depth of his awareness and knowledge of the many issues that are important to be a leader in public life, and i've been one for public life now for over 40 years, i'm very concerned that the skills, compassion, expertise necessary for that particularly and for the most important job in the world, i really am concerned that he does not possess those. >> i've heard you are say he scares you. why? >> he scares me in the sense that the idea as the representative of this country to the rest of the world that the rest of the world right now seems to be afraid of him and the idea that we certainly want to be feared by enemies but we don't want to be feared by friends. and we start being feared by friends, then we've got problems.
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and right now as evidenced by a lot of the news reports of other countries -- when i was in italy, my wife and i had the opportunity to vacation there earlier this year, they were all asking about what is it with this mr. trump that there's a wariness and a fear in countries that we've been aligned with for years. so there are things we need to question as we go forward that one man's opinion, not speaking as a police commissioner, but as an american citizen, a citizen who went to war for this country, something he did not, again, the election's coming so people get a chance to voice their concerns and comments. i'm comfortable voicing mine. it's one of the great things about living in america. you get to express your opinion. >> don't go too far. we may need you. >> no, i get to walk around the great city, ride the subways again. i'm looking forward to my time in the private sector. >> thank you for your service.
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>> up next, donald trump supporters at his rallies, what does the behavior of some of those supporters tell us about them and the candidate they're backing? if you have medicare
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who are donald trump's supporters? i want to talk about this with bruce seville and charles blow, an op-ed columnist for the "new york times." i want to start by playing some of this incredible video that you, eric, and some of your colleagues shot for the "new york times." let's listen. >> trump, trump, trump! >> do you know the safest place in the world to be is at a trump rally. >> build a wall! build a wall! [ bleep ] build a wall! [ bleep ] political correctness! >> build that wall! build that wall! >> you and two other journalists covered a number of rallies for
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donald trump over the year. why did you decide to tell a story inside the crowds and what did you discover? zeshlgs o >> well, one of the things that's interesting about what we did, while you usually see the rallies from the point of view of a television from the couch, you rarely see the perspective from those in the crowd, at the rallies. we decided we wanted to gather material from inside the crowd. if you notice in the video, you never actually see one of these standard pool shots of donald trump. what we actually found around us was what ended up making the video. >> we ran the video last night and got an incredible response to it, that these things are usually -- you're corralled in a
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certain area -- >> especially at trump events. >> and they put you in a certain place to get certain shots. i thought it was very smart that you went out in the crowd to do another clip. and then we'll discuss. >> you're making me leave. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> god bless donald trump. >> you told our producer that you were reviewing this footage and in moment in particular stood out to you. why? >> so a lot of people have said were you trying to just show the most sensationalized parts? were you trying to cherry pick? i thought this scene was very important because this one shows you that this man wearing the t-shirt that says something i cannot say on television was escorted out of the rarally. what he was wearing was not considered acceptable to stay inside the rally so they kick
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him out. when he got outside he got fist bumps from people saying thank you for not taking the shirt off and the energy from the people leaving the rally was they were supporting him. he's saying i'm supporting my right to free speech and a lot of people were very excited that he did not take that shirt off, he kept it on. it's not just the one guy doing something sensational -- >> the t-shirt said "f islam" by the way. bruce, wluch see this video, what do you think? >> don, i have to be honest with you, i didn't know anything about it until today and i did look at it briefly and i just saw this. i will tell you this, though. donald trump has done hundreds of rallies all over the country. if you take 20,000 or 30,000 people in these arenas, that's millions of people and we've had not anyone get hurt, we've had some really good, safe rallies.
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it's quite disheartening to see the "new york times" has nothing better else to do than go find some pictures and put some s subtitles below, some alleged people that said these things. i question the authenticity of the filming in general to be quite honest based on what i see. >> my colleagues were physically there. some of the stuff was sourced from social media to fill in parts of the media. >> exactly. >> but most of the stuff, including the -- if you don't believe the part about the man wearing the islam t-shirt, you can find four or five different cameras on that day that filmed that man and my colleague was one of them. nick corsoniti is a respected
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journalist. >> that tells you the safety that mr. trump has for the security of his people who come to his rallies. i wonder fur went over to the democrat rallies where bernie and hillary and do the same thing, do you have that type of footage? in all fairness? >> we have reporters who are on their umpteenth election cycle -- >> let her answer, bruce. >> dia specific story a few months ago about bernie's crowds and we sent videographers out into the crowd, we had a clap-o-meter but we did not find anything approaching anything -- any recent politician, ted cruz, mitt romney, hillary clinton, we've been to all those rallies and we haven't found this kind of thing at any of those. >> how do you respond to that, bruce? >> well, everyone knows there's
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no love loss with the "new york times" and the trump campaign, let's make it clear. >> i'm not sure that's what this is about. >> the video is totally about this. >> let me let charles get in here. are we supposed to not believe our own eyes? >> i don't know what i'm supposed to believe. you have the video, you have multiple sources. >> you have subtitles. >> let him finish. >> no, don't do it. you talked already. no, sir, don't do it. if you have video proof of it, you have multiple sources that can corroborate video, i don't know what else you're supposed to do. in fact it is a dodge, right? because the fundamental question that should be being answered is if you are attracting people who are like this and respect semifinal reporters cannot find a similar sort of feeling, sentiment, discussion, chanting in other rallies, no matter if
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they're republican or democrat, then you have to ask yourself so what is it about this candidacy that attracts these particular kinds of people? i never put it all on the candidate. i think that trump has fanned the flames here a bit, but, you know, there are hateful people in the world, hateful people in america. they vote, too. what you have to do is make sure they are not at home and feel welcome under your tent. i don't think he has sufficiently done that. >> there is -- there was a comparison made here last night, didn't have time to get to it saying did you get to the people who are burning flags. the great american way is demonstrating. people have been burning flags for a long time. that doesn't equate to racism or misogyny or islamophobia. >> and if you're wearing a
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t-shirt. >> this man felt it was a safe space where he could wear this t-shirt. people who are yelling these things -- look, there's no surprise there is a lot of race imin th -- racism in this country and what shocked me is they're in a public place with a public forum expressing those views. if you get thousands of people in a room a hundred times, you're going to get some people who are extreme. but the pattern and repetitiveness of it, it's a safe place, people feel comfortable expressing these views there. >>. >> that is what some of donald trump's critics have said, he should be more aware of his language and denouncing things that go along with his rallies. shouldn't he be doing something
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to stop this type of behavior? >> well, like i said, i didn't really watch the video but i did watch it tonight. if you noticed, the gentleman that did have the shirt on, wasn't the best interest for have to remember now we have hundreds of rallies all over the country, talking about millions of people, no one getting hurt. . it is the absolute 100% concern for mr. trump making sure everyone that comes to these rallies are safe, no one gets hurt. i'm sure if you take the time and go do the democrat side and take some microphones and walk around and hear some of the things that come out from them, you could make a documentary on that. >> not in the same way.
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not in the same way. >> i disagree. >> charles, you wrote an op-ed today -- >> it was a big exasperated -- >> charles has never been to a rally. >> yes, i have and don't -- >> you said making america great again is about the fact of white male privilege. what did you mean by that? >> there's only one major category of people locked in a trunk. hillary is doing better almost across the board for people of all categories, there are a lot of people who don't have a college education but do very well in factories or union jobs, what have you. i remember there was one estimate back in may that said that the average trump voter
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made like we mesh-yard it in polls with people saying racism is rising and not gent ethnic minorities but against white people. we see that rising in, you know, kind of death certificates -- death statistics where people in that congratulate there's certainly happening with that group. i think the reason is that there is a majority of that particular group that is navigating to donald trump is that he is reflikting something about what what it is about a loss of privilege, a loss of press teen, is it about a loss of safety, a fear of multi-culturalism, it is about a.
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>> is this saying make america white again? >> i don't know if he's saying that. i cannot find a place where someone has said what day was that? what we're was that? what period was that you were saying you want to revert to. the the more people are disadvantaged over that too many period. is it it's it before the women's right movement? at what point is it about? >> we'll be right back. more of our conversation. don't go anywhere. wholesome nuts and crunchy flakes. good things come together to make one great thing. great grains. why be good when you can be great?
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>> [ bleep ]! >> get out. get out. >> so, bruce, i want to take a look at a few figures here. i know, it's really exasperating. bruce, before we look at the figures, how -- you're not attempting to rationalize this video that we're seeing. are you? >> don, once again, it's not a question of rationalizing. you see a bunch of folks and hear some voices and see some subtitles and, you know, it's just -- it's crazy. it's just absolutely crazy. and just to piggy back or come
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back to charles about make america great again. making america great means we are $19 tril in debt woorks we have 1.6 trillion in student loans. we don't have any good trade deals that benefit the american people. we have other candidates saying they want to shut down cole mind and everything else. what's wrong with saying make america great again? >> i think what charles is saying because i know charles doesn't want to go dig. i think can you say america is a great can i but yet we're not perfect and there have been times in recent history, in past history where we had the same issues and say problems and people still thought america was a great country. what's going to move us forward is to continue to think it's a great country that we can improve upon. so let's talk about these numbers now. 80% of non-white voters plan to
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vote for clinton and only 12% for trump. can trump overcome these numbers? >> yes, absolutely. absolutely. absolutely. . absolutely. don, we are 97 days away from victory. >> look at our primary, 150 montana votes, a history in the united states. i used this word before, a tsunami of votes. the person people are died, the person people are going to weak up and wonder if that are better today and -- can mesome showed
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us the 1% and none that show him out of single digits. so i don't know what number he's shooting for but at this point it seems abysmal and those numbers have nobt. he had at least one black pastor at the convention, i think it was at the there were a number of those particular vouchers. >> erica, how do you get a chance to speak sometime. he could probably wem -- how do
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they react to what was going on? >> i got an. male from a colleague today that it brought me to she is african-american and said i knew there were people in this country who knew me because i'm black. i didn't realize it was so strong or i had forgotten about it. >> thank you erika, thank you charles, thank you bruce. remember when marco rubio accused donald trump of having small hands? the evidence is in. >> they're not small, are they? i've always had people say donald, you have the most
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donald trump likes everything big. his crowds, his buildings, his brand, but what about his hands? here is cnn jeannie moose. >> remember when donald trump would ask. >> look a at those hands. they're not small, are they? >> here is the proof. a bronze cast of the donald's right hand hiding in plain sight inside the wax museum in new york city, but before we get to
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the stats, a quick recap. you'll recall trump had a nickname for rubio. >> i call him little marco. little marco. >> and then rubio counterattacked. >> have you seen his hands? they're like this. >> and you know what they say about men with small hands. you can't trust them. >> the mockery led the donald to bring out the big gun. >> he referred to my hands, if they're small, something else must be small. i guarantee you, there is no problem. >> reporter: now we can guarantee the size of the hands. the hollywood reporter found small womens. it was cast when making a wax version of young trump which has since been removed because it is out dated. but the hand remains begging for comparison. this guy's was bigger. >> how old are you? >> 13. >> reporter: hollywood reporter measured his hand at 7 1/4
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inches. the average american males is 7.44 inches making trump's smaller despite his 6'3" size. the hollywood reporter made a pdf copy of his hand to printout entitled do you measure up to trump? >> i'm a large, he is a medium. >> reporter: most men were bigger. as for the women -- >> your hand is the same size. >> but my brain is much bigger. >> reporter: now that the size is definitive, can we stop pointing fingers at his hands? . jeannie moose, cnn, new york. >> that is it for us tonight. thanks for watching. i'm don lemon. i'll see you back here tomorrow night. we're on at 9:00 p.m. good night. this is how you apply the first paint that kills bacteria.
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good evening. . a new poll, from the wall street journal. it shows hillary clinton up nine points nationally versus donald trump. this is the third poll in the last 24 hours with an average lead of clinton plus 11 1/3 points to be exact. there is other new polling. swing state by swing state that has to be an eye opener campaign. john king will join us for that. again there, is so much more. pres

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