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she told the american public, but now she is also going back to a line that fact checkers say is patently false. and "the money shot." what looks like a lot of shrink wrapped cash on a paletlet. did a video show a ransom payment for hostages? >> good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead." it is called "buckeye state" and the barometer state. no state has been a better barometer of the nation as a whole in terms of who wins the election. no republican has won the presidency without carrying ohio. if donald trump wants to win here, he might want to start by
winning over john kasich. i sat down exclusively with the former republican presidential candidate to talk about the race and more. we'll bring you a krump of that interview in a plnt. first, the trump campaign, controversy that's seem to do little to add vance his race for the white house. she not endorsing two republican senators in bratle ground states. mike pence went his own way and endivorced lott of them. the nominee saying he is not there yet. trump is set to endorse ryan tonight, but that cannot undo
any damage already done to republican unity in the past few days. the nominee claiming he regrets nothing about his feud with a gold star family, but most americans according to a poll think that mr. trump was out of line. and also because of courts striking down voter id laws, the election to be held in 95 days will be "rigged." he said this at least four times this week that leads us to believe it is not a slip of the tongue. president obama yesterday said that mr. trump could not possibly mean what it sounds like he means. >> if he is suggesting there is conspiracy theory being propagated across the country, including in places like texas
where typically it is not democrats in charge of voting booths, that is ridiculous. that doesn't make any sense. >> today, trump campaign chairman raising that it could be stolen by democrats to benefit hillary clinton. >> cnn jim acosta is traveling with the trump campaign in des moines, iowa. jim, a lot of missteps, a lot of talk about a rigged election. and now we learn that donald trump plans to endorse paul ryan later this evening. >> that's right, with fears in the g.o.p. that donald trump and his campaign are experiencing a moment where the wheels are
coming you have. cnn confirmed that he plans to endorse ryan if would be a stunning reversal. >> for a candidate who says he rarely makes a mistake, it may be the must untrump moment yet. he will back the house speaker in his reelection campaign. it was after he gave blessing to mike pence to get behind paul ryan. he called me and said he wants to be behind paul ryan. >> it follows days of panic over
trump's tanking numbers. top republicans were furious that he appeared to be playing games and double crossing ryan who endorsed him. the speaker was barely containing his own feelings. >> i'm not going to try to analyze this stuff. i'm just going to rise above it and not get involved in a petty back and forth. i see no purpose in doing that. i will be me and do my thing. >> trump also walked back his claim that the video of the u.s. shipment of $400 million. even after his own staff was telling news outlets that trump was mistaken and he was repeating the claim. >> a tape was made. an airplane was coming in, and the money coming off, i guess,
right? that was give ton us by the iranians. >> the plane i saw was the hostage plane in geneva, switzerland, not the plane carrying $400 million in cash. >> it doesn't exist. he might be thinking of iran contra from 35 years ago or something like this. >> tom cane was gofer 26 years ago. >> trump apparently could only think of his daughter telling a local station there are so many different ones to choose. everyone would say put ivanka in, put ivanka in. that reminded hillary clinton of
the gaffe made previously about binders full of women. >> as i told you at the top of the show, i'm here in ohio today, the battleground of columbus speaking to john kasich. he has notably refused to endorse trump. he skipped the convention that was held in ohio. i asked what he will do in the voting booth in november. >> have you ever voted for a democrat? >> no. >> is it possible you will not vote for a republican for president? >> let's not get ahead of ourselves. this is very disturbing and
alarming to me. i should not say alarming. i wish i could be fully enthu enthusiast enthusiastic. you say you didn't watch the democratic convention? >> i watched just a little -- i watched trump's speech, i saw the kahn speech, i never saw hillary or chelsea, just a little bit of the convention. >> the kahn's, their son killed in iraq in 2004. you tweeted after donald trump started attacking the parents and questioning things about the parents, you tweeted "there is only one way to talk about gold star parents, with honor and respect." trump's response was he was viciously attacked by the kahn's. >> i didn't see that, but here
is what i do want to tell you. as the governor, every year except this year because fortunately we have not lost anybody, we have had families of people who have been lost serving their country. they come to the state house. and one by one the families come in to see me. it is very tough. usually there is a picture of their son, daughter, mother, staur, that is right up there as they come in. i give them a flag. and i sit and talk to them. their loss in an accident, i'm like let's not compare, but what i can tell you is that i have
seen the black hole. i had the deep mourning and the pain. i believe the scripture that says those who give up their identify, or serve someone else, will wear a big crown. their service is marked in the book of life, never to be erased. i hug them. sometimes there are people to who sit in the room with me. sometimes a tiear is shed. i give recommendations how they can find someone to help them. it is really tough. and i am honored to do it. if there is anything i can say
to these families, anything at all -- there are kids in there. their dad or mom is gone. it is just excruciatingly difficult, but i'm so glad i do it and that they would honor me to come. and i got them to come out here. it's all over, and we go through all of the ceremony that is in addition to that, they come here and spend time here at the governor's house, and i say you can stay, you can have it, whatever you want. so -- and the same is true, of course, with police. the same kind of deal. in this case, it's with the gold star families. >> did the fact that the republican convention felt so sore -- so foreboding.
>> i think it is about manners. if i went there to go and endorse a nominee, i thought it was inappropriate to go. the security was beautiful -- the people of cleveland were so fantastic, what they did. but i believe there are solutions, and we have to recognize the problem. what no one should be confused about, i think hillary is on the bus, bernie is driving, and she is in the back seat. she is big government. in the 21st century, the answer is not that we have no government, we just need
government that is effective. >> what did you make of the republican nominee saying last week that the people of crimea, from what i heard, would wrarat be with russia than where they were. >> i was at the hall for foreign policy. >> yeah, i was really pretty astounded by that. i think we should arm the ukrainians and give them the ability to have lethal weapons. in terms of chooi media, the fact that russia seized it, forget about it. they need to get out of it. >> more with governor john kasich including his take on donald trump. hey, searching for a great used car?
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i'm hillary clinton, and i approve this message. michael hayden: if he governs consistent with some of the things he said as a candidate, i would be very frightened. gillian turner: he's been talking about the option of using a nuclear weapon against our western european allies. max boot: this is not somebody who should be handed the nuclear codes. charles krauthammer: you have to ask yourself, do i want a person of that temperament
donald trump is hoping that what he does tonight will put to bed an avoidable controversy. he will apparently endorse paul ryan after he would not earlier. i asked john kasich of what he thought of trump's choice to opt out of endorsing ryan and two other senators up for reelection. >> were you surprised when donald trump declined to endorse speaker ryan, senator mccain, and speaker ayotte? >> i thought it was bizarre, right? paul, he is a guy who is positive. he wants to reach out to the people who were in poverty. he is the one that wants to lower the tax code so we don't punish the successful.
kelly ayotte, okay? she is a terrific senator. i am going to do whatever i can to help her. i was just in illinois the other day helping senator kirk raising money for the house republicans in illinois. i have been for senator paul, i was in colorado. let's talk about mccain. i love john mccain. john mccain is such an amazing guy. not just an american hero, but here is a guy that served his country well. he is outspoken and takes orders from no one. he should not even have to run. he is in a tough race. i'm going out there, i don't
care what it helps i have to go out and help mccain. he really truly is -- people who watch this show, he is a remarkable guy. he so loves his country. >> governor, your admiration for john mccain is moving. your nominee for president, republican presidential nominee said he is not a hero, he prefers people who weren't captures. >> yeah, well i don't agree with that. i think john mccain is a hero. all throughout this, anyone can say, okay, trump says this, you say that. >> and your refusal to endorse them. >> has anyone had a convention at their state, as governor, who didn't go in the convention hall. some people are furious with me
about that. >> what does he need to do to get you to vote for him? >> there is so much water over the dam now, it's did i feel. i want unifying, i want, i think i have been pretty clear -- there was a speech i made called two paths. you can operate on the dark side of the street, or you can operate in the light. i think we need people to operate in the light. >> you can see more of my interview with governor john kasich, including his side of the report that the trump campaign reached out to see if he would be vice president. his view of that controversial $400 million cash payment to
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hillary clinton still cannot escape the controversy surrounding the untrue claims she continues to make about her e-mail server as she took questions today from journalists dourn a moderated panel. let's get to susan malvo. she told the fbi the truth about her e-mail server, but he also made clear that things clinton said to the public about her server were not true. still, twice this week clinton misrepresented that. what did she have to say about that today? >> what she said was she called the explanation short circuited but not untruthful. she started her speech talking about comprehensive immigration reform. they have an all spanish twitter account, trying to address some of the needs of her audience. once the q and a started she was
hit with really tough questions. >> hillary clinton laying into trump today at a conference for black and hispanic journalists in washington. >> we need to stand up and say that donald trump does not represent who we are and what we believe. >> she was asked about her comments in recent e-mails. a statement ruled fast by fact checkers. >> i was pointing out in both of those instances that director comey said my answers in my interview were truthful. that is the bottom line here. i may have short circuited it, and for thatly try to clarify, i think chris wallace and i were probably talking past each other, of course he could only
talk to what i told the fbi, and i appreciated that. >> every time i have done a job, people have trusted me. i recognize that i have work to do. >> as she picked up another high profile endorsement. mike morel said he would be voting for clinton in november and said mr. trump has no experience on national security. even more important, the character traits he exhibited in the primary season suggest he would be a dangerous commander in chief. morrell also slammed his parade of vladimir putin. in the intelligence business, we
would say that mr. putin has recruited mr. trump. >> if he governs consistent with some of the things he said as a candidate, i would be very frightened. >> nationly, clinton's lead over trump continues to widen, a upspring helped by the positive jobs report. also some national polls showing that the gap is widening here. she is gaining ground on mr. trump. also in the state of georgia, a four-point margin between the two. certainly that red state not voting for a democratic nominee since clinton in 1992. that is a good sign that she is so close in that race in georgia. >> thank you so much. let's now discuss all of it with my political panel.
we have with us donald trump support, kaylee. we have a pro clinton super pac member, and a former advisor to the jeb bush campaign. michael steele, thank you for being here. let me start with you kaylee. governor kasich saying he doesn't know who he will vote for, expressing a lot of disapproval of hillary clinton, but really disappointment in donald trump. you must know other republicans that feel that way, what do you tell them? >> i tell them that this is a binary selection. you select donald trump or hillary clinton. there is no other viable choice. by sitting it out, you're allowing hillary clinton to become president. but i think a lot of this has to do with the internal feuding
between the campaigns. you talked about was he extended the vice presidential opportunity or was he not. i wish the trump campaign would smooth things over. endorsements are not important, i do think this one is rather important given that he is governor of ohio and has close ties with the state g.o.p. i do wish it would happen and i think it will in time. >> michael as you know, no republican since abraham lincoln in 1860 has won the election without winning the state of ohio. how damaging is it that he is not endorsing him. >>. >> it is donald trump not doing what is necessary to bring the party together to beat hick.
if he wants to accomplish that goal, the point of this exercise, beat hillary clinton, elect a republican to the white house, he needs to start reaching out to other republicans. knock off the kindergarten crap, and bring our party together. >> governor, once again secretary clinton today suggesting that director comey said that what she told people about her server is true. that is not what the fbi director said. when asked about repeated claims, he said that is not true, that is not true, why self inflicted wound here, why not just be honest and say the fbi director said some things, i'm taking them to heart and learning from them. why keep it alive? >> she was totally honest today. she said, she has been honest.
you have con trstrued this and twisted it. she said the fbi director said she told the truth to him. she told him and the american people what she told the fbi. she was making the leap, as she said that what she told the fbi was true because that is what she has been telling the american people. she was not distorting anything. she made it super clear today. boy does she want to move on, boy do the american people want to move on. this e-mail thing is irrelevant to their lives. we would rather talk about what she is out there talking about today, creating jobs, making sure people like john kasich know she is talking about small business investment, things democrats and republicans care about. >> governor with all due respect, i didn't misread or misrepresent anything. every fact checker agrees with me. what she has been saying is not
true. >> i'm telling you what she said today was true. >> a candidate's honesty is important. >> yes, but today she clarified. what she said today is that a, it is true and you agree the fbi director said what she told him was true. what she is saying is that she told the fbi what she told the american people. so yeah, there was a leap in the past conversation that she had with chris wallace. she didn't say that today. she said what she told the fbi was the same thing she has been telling the american people. all right, well don't think that is true, but i want to move on. michael, what do you make of the fact that donald trump has gotten into this fight about whether or not he will endorse speaker ryan, john mccain, and kelly ayotte.
>> this is monumentally frustrating. she is repeating a falsehood about a important national security issue. again and again. instead of talking about that and prosecuting the case that she showed poor judgment in this critical area, we're talking about these stupid battles that donald trump is bringing on himself. that is why he needs to grow up and become the lead ther party needs because the stakes in the election are that high. kaylee, it has been a bad week, but can donald trump turn it around? >> i think he is, and i think the tweet this morning admitting that he was mistaken about the video is the misstep. this is the first time we have seen him acknowledge an error in a public manner. if he endorses ryan, i don't
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ohio. tonight donald trump is in iowa. i'm here in one of the biggest prizes of them all, beautiful ohio. just next door is all important pennsylvania. now a poll out yesterday paints a rather bleak picture with clinton leading trump there by 11 poeints. john king is at the magic wall breaking it down for us. trump needs pennsylvania to win the white house. >> it is very hard to get trump to 270 without pennsylvania. let's look at the threshold number. 49 for secretary clinton, 38 for donald trump. 11 points right there in a state donald trump needs. now it is august. if you are looking at these numbers, he has a problem with key voting groups. you were just talking with
michael steele. why is he in the fight, look at the numbers here, hick is getting eight in ten democrats. 78% in pennsylvania say i'm with the democratic nominee. on 60 pakistan of republicans say they're with the republican nominees. she largely consolidated support, he has not. the second problem is among independents. 45-29 hillary clinton beating trump. if she is doing well in inner city philadelphia, and also doing well, getting a little bit of the republican vote and the republican vote, that means she will be doing well in the suburbs as well. you will probably win pennsylvania. >> john, the question of course is do the numbers suggest a
temporary bounce for secretary clinton? >> you went through this as i did with george w. bush. mitt romney thought he could do it. john mccain thought he could in 2008. right now in philadelphia, hillary clinton is matching what barack obama got in 2012. in the southeast, this is where the suburbs around philadelphia, she is matching what president obama got and what the democrats got in elections. one plus for donald trump, he is running well in the southwest part of the state, doing well here. the central part of the state, he is under performing as well. if you look at it right now, he dug a ditch and he better climb out quick. >> john king, thank you so much. is it the money. iran television showing a pallet
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welcome back to "the lead. battleground states. continuing controversy and outrage. a cash transfer to iran by the baul had min strags on the same day for footage on iranian television shows the money arriving in tehran. it raises new questions about if this was a quid pro quo. jim, you're learning new details about how the cash was delivered? >> that's right. >> it was not a u.s. plane that delivered the cash. the cash was sent and we are now
sees what iranian state television says what all of that money, in cash, looked like. >> a pallet loaded with what iranian state television is calling cash paid by the u.s. the video aired in iran just daying after the release of four american prisoners. at the pentagon dismissed the cash payment and the prisoner's release saying the negotiations were entirely separate. >> we announced these payments in january. it wasn't some nefarious deal. and at the sometime, we explained that iran had put a claim before an international
tribunal about them recovering money of theirs that we had frozen. >> until today, donald trump repeatedly said he saw secret video of cash being unloaded in iran, just as those americans were freed. >> it was an airplane with the money coming in, and it was given to us by the iranians, and you know why? they want to embarrass our country. >> today, trump says the plane i saw was the hostage plane in geneva, switzerland. trump referring to this entirely different video showing the plane that carried the freed americans. however, the timing of the two transactions, prisoners going
out, hundreds of machiillions cg in, one of the freed american prisoners told fox news he and his fellow americans waited at the airport in iran for hours the night of their release. when he asked an intelligence officer why, he said we're waiting for another plane, and if that plane takes off, then we'll let you go. >> they is a sked if iran would have freed prisoners without that payment. >> to be clear, the new video of the money is not the same video that donald trump claimed to to have seen. he says he just saw video of the prisoners going free. >> also curious. thank you so much. new jobs in your opinions were out this morning. what does it mean for you, what does it mean for your wallet? that story, next.
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>> june and july, the best months this year, and you see after a stumble in the spring it looks like hiring has really picked up speed. unemployment here incredibly important, too. this number has gone down down down. sitting here at 4.9%. some economists consider this almost full employment quite frankly when you have an unemployment rate below 5%. what about the sectors? there was broad based hiring tonight. business and information services, those jobs are doing better. in terms of wages, a really important part of recovery. 2.6%. the fed and workers would like to see more, but wages are going in the right direction. basically here, the summer, firing on all cylinders for the job's market, jake. >> thank you kristine. tune in this sunday to see more of my exclusive interview with
the presidential candidate john kasich. that is on "state of the union" at 9:00 a.m. when noon eastern. u now throw to "the situation room" where we find one wolf blitzer. >> happening now, breaking news, amid a gop revolt, donald trump reverses course. he will endorse speaker paul ryan after refusing to do so earlier and trump is backing off claims of seeing a video of a $400 million cash payment being unloaded in iran. and trump is a agent for vladimir putin. >> hillary