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knew the risks. thanks very much, elise. we'll have more on the story in the situation room. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. up next, the news continues right here on cnn. happy monday, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. despite more than a dozen interruptions, donald trump got specific on what is considered to be his greatest strength as a candidate, the u.s. economy. there he was from motor city this afternoon. mr. trump just laid out his business -- his plans to drive business revenue up, bring tax revenue down. meantime, hillary clinton, too, is choosing detroit to talk about the economy, that speech happens thursday, but in just the next hour she will be doing a jobs event down in florida and we should be hearing her response to trump's plans.
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now, the republican nominee wants to shrink the number of tax brackets, he wants to cut business taxes by double digits, put a moratorium on government regulati regulations, renegotiate trade agreements and perhaps really the biggest talker eliminate taxes on child care costs. >> i am going to cut regulations massively. under my plan, no american company will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. in other words, we're reducing new taxes from 35% to 15%. my plan will also help reduce the cost of child care by allowing parents to fully deduct the average cost of child care spending from taxes. no family will have to pay the
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death tax. american workers -- [ cheers and applause ] american workers have paid taxes their whole lives and they should not be taxed to death. one of my first acts as president will be to repeal and replace disastrous obamacare, saving another two million american jobs. american workers who are hired to do the job, american workers. [ applause ] americanism, not globalism, will be our new credo. >> all right, so those were pieces of mr. trump from earlier today, here he is, tom foreman, doing a reality check on the speech today. what did you find, tom? >> well, he repeated many
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themes, brooke, that we've heard many times before about things that he says are holding back the economy and ultimately costing jobs. listen. >> the united states also has the highest business tax rate among the major industrialized nations of the world at 35%. it's almost 40% -- [ audience member shouting ] [ applause ] it's almost 40% when you add in taxes at the state level. >> big numbers. big numbers and they're pretty much correct. if you look at the overall numbers out there, the federal tax rate is around 35%. you add in most state and local
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taxes they come out to about 6% so his math is on. but here is the catch. companies generally don't pay that thanks to tax credits, exemptions and offshore tax havens, in 2010 the government accountability office found at large profitable companies actually paid about 12.6%. two-thirds of american corporations have no federal tax liability. so in terms of what is actually paid, the u.s. is 16th in the world. so what trump said is overall, according to our verdict here true but by leaving out those details it's misleading. brooke? >> tom foreman, thank you for that. we'll check in with you as we continue to go through the speech in specifics. we'll also, of course, do the same for hillary clinton's economic speech this coming thursday also in detroit. now donald trump, he's had a tough time getting out his speech because as you just heard a moment ago protester after protester peppering his speech, interrupting him. if you were playing along and
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counting it happened a total of 14 times. the group, the michigan people's campaign, sent out a press release saying its people were the ones who were challenging trump on his stance on sexual harassment and auto factory jobs. here they were. >>. [ applause ] [ boos ] >> all right, so let's that you can over with cnn political commentators bill press and scottie nell hughes, she is a donald trump supporter, political editor at rig and we have ali velshi, global affairs and author of "how to speak money."
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so awesome talking to all of you. ali, it's been forever, nice to have you on the show. bill, let me just turn to you quickly. i kind of stopped counting the protesters at 12. it was a lot. you laugh but, i mean, it may be difficult for you to do this but give the man credit for -- he kept cool the whole time. >> it's the pivot, right? he's pivoting from -- >> staying on message. >> from insults to issues. he's pivoting from just ad-lib to using the tell prompter and he's pivoting from saying "punch them out, i wish i could punch them out" boom, boom, boom, and just letting them do their thing and let the police take care of it which is a smart thing to do. does that mean that everything he said today makes any sense? no way. does that mean he's successfully going to be able to pivot, reset his campaign? i think it's too late for that as well. >> hang on, hang on. ali velshi, let's begin with the substance of this.
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i know a lot of people watch having kids so i wanted to begin with that and how he says he wants to have child care be fully tax deductible. talk to me about that and the difference between that and what we have now. >> it's a good start. hillary clinton talked about family medical leave, expanding leave. you know, in western democracies in modern states, america sort of lags almost everyone else, in terms of child care, in terms of maternal and in some cases paternal leave. it's weird that america is as far behind everyone as it is. it's interesting to see donald trump get out ahead possibly of hillary clinton on this one. it's actually a bigger program than some of what hillary clinton offers. he's also doing that on the infrastructure front. he's talking about infrastructure in a way that's bigger than hillary clinton is. but at the same time, there were very typically conservative orthodox things in here about getting rid of the estate tax, in terms of lowering the corporate tax.
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again, brooke, canada has lowered the corporate tax to 15% and for small businesses it's even lower. that is something that's generally welcome. i'm not sure detroit or michigan is the place to put that out. so even his choice of venue was interesting because the strongest argument he has for people in michigan and the midwest and the rest belt is his opposition to tpp. >> okay. before we get into the multiple other points you're making, quickly, though, scottie, i'm turning to you because when i heard mr. trump talking about this and child care being fully tax deductible i'm thinking of ivanka in cleveland when we stood there in the hall and heard the a caka applause and c were saying, hold on, it sounds like the dnc, not the rnc. we all know he's talking to female voters and when he says that ladies listen. >> and i think this is a clue in that the trump campaign and house republicans and senate republican leadership have been having. one thing we heard was this is
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very much an issue that we hear from the democrats that we don't hear coming from the republicans but we did hear about reducing entitlements, something paul ryan and house republicans hold dear. was this possibly a compromise saying you help me in this area, this is something i believe in, i can see how much it would benefit my own family and my own business structure, the women that work there, will you let me sit here and say about the entitlements, maybe push those off into possibly down the line reforming some of those entitlements that the house republicans so want to have a part of their plan and proposal? so i think this might show compromise and how we'd be able to get something done going forward in a trump administration, something we've not seen happen within congress and the obama administration yet. >> ali, let me bounce back to you on tax brackets. we're at seven, he wants to take it to three, he wants to reduce rates across the board, he threw out a bunch of different numbers. how big of a deal is that? >> it's impractical. i remind you of a word "sequester" that we've all tried
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really, really hard to forget. >> no! >> you can't do it. it's a terrific thought, i mean, i would love the idea. i want to vote for the guy right now just with the idea that he'll drop my tax bracket to 25%. he wants to drop corporate taxes, interesting, worthy of debate, he wants to drop personal taxes which is not only worthy of debate it's worthy of a big hug but he also wants to spend more than hillary clinton on infrastructure. he wants to spend a lot of money. he wants to lower taxes and somehow he thinks that high growth will make up for it in the middle. that's very, very risky. growth is not up to the u.s. president, it's up to some federal policies and it's up to the whims of the world in many cases and things we don't know about so to suggest that you're going to increase expenditures, decrease taxes and hope somehow that everybody's just in such a fascinating mood about the whole operation that everybody just goes out and spends and buys and makes and sells, it's a little bit of wishful thinking.
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i don't have to say it's impossible but it's wishful. >> bill, i know you want to jump in but folding in we hear the "t" word come off of mr. trump's tongue so much, being taxes, i know it's making people think well, what about yours? >> well, look, first of all, i want to be as positive as i can. i love the fact he's talking about issues and not just insulting fire marshals or whatever, that's good. >> agreed. >> there are good things in here, for example, i would agree. the child care tax credit is a good move. his talk about trade deals, i agree with him 100%. i mean, i agree with him generally on that issue. but the other stuff is, as ali says, does not add up. we've been down this road before, the idea that cutting taxes on the very wealthy and as tom foreman just pointed out, that's where most of his cuts go, is going to help the economy, is going to trickle down, is somehow going to help the middle-class. we tried that under george w. bush, we went from a budget surplus to a huge deficit and now donald trump wants to do that and in addition spend more
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money on the military, more money on infrastructure. it doesn't add up. that is not the problem in this country. the wealthiest don't need more tax cuts, the middle-class do. >> so this was a significant speech mr. trump gave today. we know secretary clinton, just a reminder to all of you, we'll fact check hers as well, she'll offer a sharp rebuttal this coming thursday from detroit. ali velshi, scottie hughes -- >> brooke, her proposals won't be as much fun. guaranteed. >> just as long as you don't use the sequester word we're all good. thank you all so much ali thank you and scottie and bill. coming up next, yes, it's august, yes the conventions are over but donald trump has a new competitor in this race. did you know, did you hear? a former cia covert operative launching an independent bid for the white house. hear who he is and why he says he's doing this. plus, another bomb shell from inside the walls of fox news. the former ceo reportedly used
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company cash to hire spies to go after his enemies. could fox be in some serious legal trouble here? and iran executes a nuclear scientist accused of spying for america and now conservatives are pointing fingers at hillary clinton for what was said about the scientist in her e-mails. what was that all about? so much to talk about. it's not a dull august, as bill press pointed out. i'm brooke baldwin. we'll be right back. was a car company i told yoe that received all of these awards? one company won an award in all of these? chevy. ahhhh! chevy chevrolet is the most awarded car company over the last two years. i love it! i'm just going to stay in here, is that okay? this summer find your tag and get 16% of msrp cash back on select remaining 2016 vehicles in stock. that's over $4,100 cash back on this all new 2016 chevy malibu. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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welcome back, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. the mosquito-transmitted zika virus is raising health concerns at the olympic in rio and the united states. several hundred cases have been discovered in florida and now senator marco rubio has made zika a political issue as he is seeking reelection. the current florida senator is raising eyebrows saying a pregnant woman who contracts the virus should not be allowed to have an abortion even though zika can cause serious birth defects in babies. joining me now is cnn political reporter maeve reston. i know we've been covering the
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health effect of zika, now we're talking politics and zika. how is that falling on floridians we'res. >> i think this was a move by marco rubio to shore up his support among conservatives. he has over the years been very conservatives on the abortion issue and clearly this is an extension of that but you have to wonder, it's unclear, he's in a very strong position in florida but how tight that race will end up being with the trump effect in play and this is something the democrats are looking forward to using against him because this is an issue women feel anxious about and have kind of deep emotional reactions to. >> okay. so there's that in florida as he's fighting to hold on to that senate seat. then looking at my calendar, maeve reston. it is august 8. the election is 92 days a way
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and suddenly america woke up to a name i have a feeling many people didn't know, my next guest calls him a kamikaze candidate. who is this? >> so this is an interesting -- this is an interesting story. there is now going to be an anti-trump republican who is -- >> for president. >> for president who potentially has really strong ties in utah and could flip that state to hillary clinton if he gets signatures. he has only about a week to get signatures on the ballot. and it's going to be one of those interesting scenarios where republicans have been looking for another candidate who they would feel comfortable voting for and particularly in states like utah. trump has not connected well with the lds community there and so this is a chance for them to choose someone else.
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>> maeve reston, thank you so much. perfectly teed up my next segment. evan mcmullan is his name, not very well known but he's a former cia officer, part of this never trump movement. evan mcmullan briefly worked as a chief policy officer for the house republicans, stepped down today to launch his third party bid, he will be running as an independent, this is mcmullan's campaign web site. his slogan "it's never too late to do the right thing." so let me bring in my next guest, he is the opinion editor for the desert news in salt lake city. nice to have you on, thank you so much. >> oh, thank you for having me. welcome to sunny salt lake. >> i wish i were there, it's a beautiful place, but let me just begin with a beautiful piece actually and we'll get into it in a second. i know so many people are saying evan who? who is this? >> yeah, so he's a bit of a mystery candidate. the way i've liked to describe him so far is jason bourne meets
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karl rove meets mitt romney and while jason bourne is obviously showing in theaters right now -- >> that's a combination. >> it's an odd combination and he'll have an uphill battle with 92 days until people cast their ballots here but i think, you know, his -- one reason why i think people haven't heard his name is because for the first decade of his career he was working undercover in the clandestine services in the cia trying to make sure people didn't know his name. he resurfaced, got some education, got some business experience and then went into politics. he'll have an uphill battle and it will be a real challenge for him nationally. i spoke with him two hours ago and they see a real opening in utah and have received quite a bit of positive feedback in the state. but, again, he's going to have challenges on the ballot, he'll face that trump contender for that never trump vote that's gravitating toward the
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libertarian ticket, governor gary johnson. it will be interesting to watch. >> let me jump in. you're throwing a lot of excellent information at me but let me stop you on utah and so a byu graduate, obviously very familiar with the l. d.s. community. utah is in play this election. i was looking at our reporting on mitt romney who had been floated as a potential person to run who said no, dana bash said she's talked to one of romney's advisors, perhaps they'll be put in touch. but is it possible utah flips for hillary clinton with his entrance in into the race. >> yeah, i think what you're really seeing -- and there's a utah policy poll today that showed trump in the lead in the 30s, hillary clinton behind in the 20s but the libertarian candidate gary johnson surging now at 16%. another poll, an internal polling from representative mia love's campaign here in utah
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showed a dead heat between trump at 29%, hillary clinton at 27%, and then gary johnson 26. so i think people around the nation for the first time in over a decade are seeing that utah is a place at play. and i think it speaks to the electorate. i think the electorate here in utah cares about character quite a bit and we see this bear out in survey polls. they care about things like character and i think on both accounts, both major party nominees are not living up to that litmus test here in utah so it will be interesting to watch. we're certainly watching these developments closely. >> utah very much in play. fun for you as a political reporter and columnist. he says he thinks he'll get a thousand signatures by next week. let's stay in touch. hall boyd, thank you very much with the desert news there in salt lake city. coming up next, let's talk about this black room, the
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so-called black room. it sounds like the nixon white house in the 21st century. this reporter who's had scoop after scoop after scoop says former fox news boss roger ailes used this black room to go after his enemies and, according to his sources, says ailes used company money to do it. we have that. also ahead, iran has executed a top nuclear scientist. the government says he was a spy for the united states. hear why conservatives are trying to involve hillary clinton in this one. stay here. there's no such thing as adverse suv ♪ ♪ for a limited time get some of our best offers of the year at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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yet another bombshell in the roger ailes fox news scandal. the ousted fox news chairman had a so-called black room headquarters in new york according to one report, and he used company money to pay for private detectives and political operatives to spy on his enemies including other journalists. this is after gretchen carlson hit ailes with a lawsuit claiming sexual harassment. according to this gabe sherman piece in the "new york" magazine, the ailes-run black room was discovered when fox executives started looking through the news division's financial records following ailes' ousting and this is coming from, again, gabe sherman with scoop after scoop. he wrote the biography on ailes called "the loudest voice in the room." with me now, dan abrams,.
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the stories keep coming and gabe keeps -- i don't know who his sources are but beginning with this latest bombshell, this black room, with these private detectives and political operatives with fox's own money to spy on people. >> i don't know, maybe i'm the only one not that surprised in the sense that roger ailes ran fox like a political campaign and so this is what you do in a political campaign. that doesn't justify it, it doesn't make it right, but i guess i'm not that surprised and so some are going to say well, how did he get the authorization? no one knew about it. people forget, roger ailes really ran fox autonomously. did he have bosses in theory? yes, in theory. in reality, roger ailes was fox news so there wasn't sort of a separating out, roger ailes from fox news. they were one in the same and i think that's why and how something like this happens. >> the question then is, which
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is what i know a number of people have been wondering, is when you read about these sexual harassment stories that gabe and others have been reporting on and now this black room it makes you think well, how widespread is this? how far back does it go? >> it will be very interesting from a corporate perspective which is how many cases did they sign off on? >> what do you mean "sign off on"? >> were there other cases where they actually paid someone to keep quiet? they paid for a confidentiality agreement. that's something corporate has to have known about. you can say he ran his own budget, yeah, he called it one thing or another when he ran the special room, but when it comes to actual legal settlements, the legal entity there had to know about it, et cetera. and if there were a number of them, we don't know how many, that's what i'm most interested in because that would really tell me that they had to have known that there was a pervasive issue. >> and then dan it's can you imagine how if this had happened
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anywhere else how fox news would be covering this story? >> oh, yeah. it would be all over. i mean, we're covering it on cnn to some degree but there's no question that if this were about cnn leader or msnbc leader that it would be -- >> every hour. >> yeah, all over fox. this is what's interesting about watching the "new york post," which is also owned by the same company, how much do they cover it? they used to be totally hands-off. now they're -- they have started covering the ailes' story which is an interesting development. >> from the stories of alleged sexual harassment to the black room, what's next? final question, are there other bombshells to drop, do you think? >> i'm sure, look, once you dig into something that's never been unearthed you're going to find treasures. if there's this area, all of fox news that no one has looked into before, you're going to find stuff and i think that's the real concern on the part of newscorp is that they're going to dig, they're going to find and the question is just going
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to be how bad is what they find in there? and as of right now i think the only people who know that are probably the paul weiss investigators know it to some degree and roger ailes himself. >> dan abrams, thank you so much. >> good to be back with you. coming up next, they call him a traitor. iran says one of its top nuclear scientists was a spy for the united states, he was executed by the iranian government. next we'll look into his contact with the u.s. and why hillary clinton now is involved with regard to this man in this story. also ahead, this is the world's tallest water slide. police have closed it down after a 10-year-old little boy died at the kansas water park. we'll tell you what happened. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪
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an iranian nuclear scientist has been hanged for treason. his name, shahram amiri, vanished in 2009 before resurfacing a year later in the u.s. claiming he'd been abducted and interrogated by the cia. at the time, u.s. officials said amiri defected voluntarily. in 2011 he returned to iran because he was later tried and convicted of giving quote/unquote vital information to the enemy, america the great satan. so let me bring in elise labott, cnn global affairs correspondent and also bob bear is with me, former cia covert officer, intelligence and security analyst. elise, to you first, so many holes in the story. can you explain on how he was,
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how he got here. >> well, he claims he was kidnapped during a religious pilgrimage in saudi arabia. he showed up in the united states in 2009 and promptly said "i was kidnapped, i'm being held." but when we talked to u.s. officials, he's here on his own free will, you heard secretary of state clinton saying he was free to come and go. he had a video produced saying he was free then another one reaffirming kidnapping charges. he showed up at the pakistani embassy demanding to go home. officials said he believed his family was threatened and when he arrived home in 2010 -- >> hero's welcome. >> hero's welcome. joyous reunion with the son, shortly disappeared thereafter, no one heard anything about him,
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then we just heard on sunday that he was executed and it's really a kind of dark end to what has been a strange real life spy drama. >> so on the spy drama, bob baer, let me ask you on elise's point about this hero's welcome and then they hang him. what was that about? was it just a smokescreen to get him back? >> what happens is normally in cases like this you have somebody defect, we call them walk ins, we bring them back to the united states clandestinely, you debrief them, promise them money, there's even a law the cia acts according to, he can stay here as long as he wants, eventually bring his family but as so often happens these defectors get lonely or their families are threaten sod they decide to go back and indeed hillary clinton is right. you can't stop these people, they're not prisoners, it's advised against going back. because once you've given up
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secrets on iran's nuclear program, you know, you're -- you know, you're pretty well doomed. anyhow, he felt for it. the iranians promised him he'd be fine, they start interrogating him, figure out the secrets he's given up and that's it. he was doomed the moment he stepped foot on that plane back to tehran. >> in an interview with iranian state tv, he claims he was kidnapped by american intelligence operatives and faced "psychological warfare and pressure that are much worse than being in prison." with what would that have meant? >> i just don't believe it. defectors are treated very well in the united states, there had been one exception in 1962, a russian was claiming information about the kennedy assassination, he was held prisoner. but i've dealt with defectors over the years, they're very well treated but i should also say they often get very home sick, very quick and they go back and the cia has never tried
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to stop them. >> so elise, now, you know, republicans are trying to link his story with hillary clinton, how his name has popped up in the e-mails, what is the clinton campaign saying? >> well, you also heard the trump campaign try and link that. so what basically -- you know, hillary clinton said a lot of the same things publicly, in fact, a little bit more forcefully and so basically you heard the clinton camp come out today and say the trump campaign has never met a conspiracy theory it didn't like. it's pretty remarkable to baselessly claim that hillary clinton is responsible for this tragic death. that's a clinton campaign spokesman. now look, obviously clinton's critics are seizing on the fact that there was some veiled references to mr. amiri in the e-mail. i don't think we can really make a direct correlation that he was executed. secretary clinton did say a lot of this publicly but clearly the ole issue of the e-mails is
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continuing to dog her and the more these type of issues arise -- and clearly there was more e-mails we think could be released between now and the election -- it will continue to dog her. >> right, elise labott, thank you so much, bob baer, appreciate you both. coming up, here's a quick list of words donald trump has used to describe jeb bush "weak, pathetic, low energy, soft, puppet, terrible, phony, poor, desperate, a basket case, a lightweight, and a sad sack." so, surprise, jeb bush's son just endorsed donald trump. hear why. your insurance company
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of the rio olympic games. jr. he's asleep at the wheel, folks. his family is so ashamed. he's got that vicious streak because he's a gutless guy. jeb bush is a total lightweight. we have to get rid of the bushes of the world. they're weak, they're ineffective. >> remember all the bad blood between donald trump and his former republican primary rival
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jeb bush? well, that's not stopping governor bush's own blood from endorsing the republican nominee. jeb bush's oldest son george p. bush is begrudgingly urging republicans in his home state to support trump. the texas land commissioner says it's time to unify. >> you know, from team bush it's a bitter pill to swallow. you get back up and you help the man that won and you make sure that we stop hillary clinton. >> it's in secret jeb bush and donald trump saw eye to eye. what did mr. trump really think of jeb? here's a look back at the colorful language he used. "no honor, low energy, clueless, hypocrite, failure, desperate, sad, weak, needs help from mommy, pathetic, sad sack, poor, puppet, soft, embarrassment -- excuse me, total embarrassment, confused. a basket case."
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folks, the list goes on and on here. joining me, jack barkroft, the vice president of the republican county's texas association. you remember that language thrown at governor bush, do you not? >> i do. >> so you're a trump supporter. in your opinion the room when george p. bush said listen, bitter pill to swallow but it's time, i endorse him. how did the overall room react to that? >> they immediately reacted with applause. it was a very -- it's a new day in texas. and commissioner bush was appointed as chairman to the victory activities in texas and he takes it wholeheartedly. he's doing everything he can to get republicans elected up and down the ballot. >> that's right, he's a victory chairman which means he wants his republicans elected and, yes, he may have endorsed and i hear you on the applause but when you say "bitter pill to swallow," jack, that isn't a full-throated wholehearted
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endorsement, do you agree? >> it certainly wasn't an endorsement for hillary clinton. >> what does that mean? >> in other words, it wasn't an endorsement. he says that we have to unite and we're united more now in texas than ever in getting a republican into the white house, house, and senate. >> were there people in that room who were surprised that he went ahead and did that? >> no, not at all. >> listen, the bush family is extraordinarily tight. no others have come out to support trump, former president george h.w. bush, president george w. bush, you know they skipped the republican convention there in cleveland. why do you think ultimately -- youngest -- victory chairman bush is supporting him. what do you think was the final straw? >> the final straw was right now in our nation that -- think about it, the supreme court is up for grabs. so that's not going to affect one generation but two or three.
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and he sees, just like everybody else in the state of texas that it's critical to get a white house in this election. >> final question, jack, how influential do you think george p. bush's endorsement will be over the never trump republicans? >> it will definitely go a long way. i believe that it's a movement, it's a tipping point now in the state of texas. he's going to fulfill his commitment to get out the voters in 2016. >> jack barcroft in gatesville, texas. coming up, donald trump is outlining issues in detroit this afternoon but amid protesters certainly peppering his speech. i believe it was 14 interruptions in total. we will fact check his economic address today in detroit and see how it will sit with republican voters and beyond. also ahead, hillary clinton is getting ready for a rally in st.
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this next story is absolutely gut wrenching here. this 10-year-old little boy, caleb schwab, was on a water slide, racing down the world's tallest water slide when he was somehow killed before he even got to the bottom. so this slide, 17 stories tall. it's as high as niagra false just for a little comparison. riders apparently hit speeds of 50 to 65 miles per hour, drop 16 feet in a matter of seconds while strapped into a three-person raft. the name of the ride is "insian" in german. kyung lah is following this story. our thoughts and prayers
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obviously go to this family. what happened? >> well, we spoke with the police this afternoon, brook, and we're getting very little information. they're calling this a death investigation. they're still trying to determine whether or not criminal charges may actually be applicable in this case. they say they're still in those very early stages. the details that we are getting, brooke, are generally from witnesses, people who saw this happen. they say it wasn't in that first extreme plunge that you see in that slide, it was in the second hump, the 50-foot drop. that's somewhere something went terribly wrong and there is very little room for error in a ride like this, an extreme ride reaching those speeds you mentioned, 55 to 60 miles per hour. guinness book of world records says this is the tallest water slide in the world. very little room for error and just to give you a little history, in 2014 when this park opened, there were at least three delays in part because of a section of the slide had to be rebuilt, they had to redesign
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it. there were reports that on those test runs, those rafts, they attached sandbags to them, those sandbags did go flying. >> and so he was 10, you have to be 54 inches tall at least to ride. was he? was he of proper proportions? >> we don't know. i asked the police department specifically was he 54 inches tall. they said they weren't giving out that information. if he was not, that's certainly going to be a big part of this investigation. >> awful, awful, kyung lah, thank you. you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin, thank you for being with me on this monday. in mere minutes hillary clinton will strike back against donald trump's plans for the u.s. economy from detroit, michigan. the republican nominee talked
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about how he plans to drive revenue up and bring tax revenue down. if you're watching, trump did have a tough time getting out his ideas after protester after protester interrupted him more than a dozen times. in the end he revealed how he wants to shrink the number of tax brackets, wants to cut business taxes by double digits, renegotiate trade agreements and perhaps the biggest talker here, eliminate taxes on child care costs. >> i will ask each and every federal agency to prepare a list of all of the regulations they impo impose on americans which are not necessary. don't improve public safety and they needlessly kill many, many jobs. those regulations will be eliminating quickly. [ applause ] we are in a competition with the
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world and i want america to win [ cheers and applause ] all of our policies should be geared toward keeping jobs and wealth inside of the united states. [ applause ] my plan will also help reduce the cost of child care by allowing parents to fully deduct the average cost of child care spending from their taxes. >> that was donald trump in detroit. we will have hillary clinton in st. petersburg, florida. pamela brown is standing by, i read that senior advisor with the clinton campaign saying when we see hillary clinton it will be a "sharp rebuttal" of what we heard from mr. trump's plan. >> in just a half hour she'll be coming out and talking about the speech on the economy.
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she's expected to talk about trade. he's saying the tax proposals are reckless so she's trying to create a sharp contrast between herself and donald trump and say he's someone who only wants to help those at the top, however she's someone who's been fighting for working class families and she's likely going to touch on the fact that we've seen in the ads in florida that he's someone who likes to profit off of people's pain, that he's not good for small businesses so this is an opportunity for her to come out and make the pitch to people in florida, a crucial battleground state. this is a two-day swing and hillary clinton trying to capitalize on the momentum she has today. the latest poll shows up her up 10 points, that's up six points since after the convention. >> big bounce from philadelphia. we'll pop back by as soon as we see hillary clinton speaking. trump not only pushes his hopes for the future but pointed out
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the problems he thinks the country is now facing. with that let's go to cnn's tom foreman who did a reality check on what donald trump said today. what did you find. >> well, donald trump says if you go forward with hillary clinton's promise to continue the work of president obama that will be a terrible plan. liste listen. >> homeownership is at its lowest rate in 51 years. 58% of the african-american youth are either outside of the labor force or not employed. meanwhile american households are earning more than $4,000. think of that. $4,000 less today than they were 16 years ago. >> let's take this final piece.
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homeownership is at the lowest rate in 51 years. homeownership is at 62.9%. the high was in 2004 at 69.2. it hasn't been this low since 1965 so the verdict on that first one is yeah, that is true. what about his second claim, 58% of african-american youth are either outside the labor force or not employed you can get that number by taking this number, the number who are employed and doing reverse math and yes, it's true that more african-american youths are disproportionately affected than other youths however this doesn't allow for the fact that all the people aren't necessarily unemployed. they may be school or training for another job or looking for work which means they're not counted as unemployed. he left that out so the verdict on this is true but misleading because you need to tell people that other stuff. what about income? the idea that people are not making as much money as they
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did? american households are earning $4,000 less than they were 16 years ago that's what he said. mean i can't say household income in 2014 was $53,657. and, yes, that was about $4,000 less than it was in 2000 but that was two years ago. since then there have been updated surveys and a survey found the median income now is about $57,206 so he needed to update those numbers. he can't take things from two years ago and say that's what counts. we'll say the last one was false. brooke? >> thank you for going through that. it's great. we have specifics, tom forman, thank you. we have more reality checks coming up when we hear from hillary clinton. he'll give a much larger economic speech. also from detroit this coming thursday. now for the deep dive. let me bring in some voices i have barry bennett, used to serve as campaign manager for dr. ben carson that supports
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donald trump. princeton economic's professor alan krueger also an informal advisor to hillary clinton and the author of the entrepreneurial instinct. monica metha, a finance expert and the managing principal at seventh capital investment. so welcome to all of you. monica, i defer to you first on the nuts and bolts of what we heard. so beginning with -- because i think a lot of moms and dads watch and i'm thinking about their kids, i'm thinking about child care and what trump said specifically about having child care fully tax deductible. that's a huge deal. >> this is a big point from a lot of americans and what you've heard from the left the focus on another pain point, which is college so he's directing focus. parents are exhausted paying for child care. so he's touching upon something that is a nerve for many older americans. middle aged americans.
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>> if we're hearing from a senior advisor that there will be a sharp rebutal from her, you tell me how she will address the child care issue. >> he's far behind her. hillary clinton is far more generous than those. she's proposed a cap at 10% of income, subsidies to those who can't afford child care and working on the supply-side so child care services are available and affordable. what mr. trump proposed is a giveback for the higher income families who deduct at a higher tax rate so he hasn't focused his resources on those who need them most but it's good he's coming around to recognizing this is an important issue. >> it's an issue, we heard ivanka trump address it at the rnc.
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ba barry bennett, i want you to get into this from a trump supporter perspective. >> small children need to be taken care of. i don't care what their economic class is. mr. trump's proposal is going to be wildly popular. >> let's move on to the tax bracket. there's seven, he's proposing three. let's throw up the tweet. we've heard from paul ryan, we know trump endorsed him friday night and he's taken a number of his proposals. so you have to paul ryan tweet with seven different tax brackets for individuals and a top rate of 39.6%, america's tax code is too complicated. monica? >> it is too complicated. the only people who like the tax code are accountants so again he's hitting on a pain point that -- a voter base doesn't want to get into the details, yeah, taxes are too complicated, yeah, i pay way too much for child care, yeah, corporations don't pay their fair share
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because corporations are paying 11% of total tax receipts that the federal government gets in. how is that happening? i think his speech is interesting. it's very detail light but it touches on things that seem to be pain points for people. >> is it feasible? >> are any of these proposals feasible? i take a lot of these with a grain of salt. that's a copout answer but at the same token we've got on the this place where the american voter base is so cynical and they look at all of these proposals and solutions from politicians and they're like, yeah, you're a corporate puppet, i don't know what you're going to do when you get into office and the thing that trump has going for him is that he's a little different, fresh, nuts but, you know, it's different. >> fresh and nuts says monica is, barry you get to respond to that and tell the americans why he can pull it off. >> well, pain is real, right? real people have had a real increase and real income in a
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long time. we have to free the job creators. free the risk takers and stop war irying about investment bankers and carried interest. what washington has done with the tax code is inexcusable and indecipherabl indecipherable. >> you look at obama's numbers, they're very high. the u.s. economy grew a meer 1.2% between april and june and when the jobs report came out the numbers hadn't changed since july so i know hillary clinton is running on this sort of third term of president obama's but you were on economic advisory council. if you're looking at jobs numbers, doesn't that hurt her? >> in july we had a quarter
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million jobs. over the last seven million years, we've added 15 million jobs since the economy turned around under president obama. what mr. trump has done is just to double down on his proposal for an enormous tax cut which independent analysts say will cost $10 trillion, would blow up the debt, which mark zandi, an independent economist who advised john mccain said would cause a deep recession, would cause the economy to lose 3.5 million jobs. so i don't think there's anything in here that will help the economy. i think it would cause deep problems and make our problems worse which are real problems but there's nothing in here which would make life for middle-class workers or lower income families better off. >> barry, you're laughing and shaking your head. why? >> they're concerned about the debt now, that's fantastic. unfortunately it's eight years too late. they doubled it. this is ridiculous. the obama policies have failed? >> go ahead, alan, respond that. >> the deficit has come down under president obama. the deficit is now under 3% of
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gdp. >> the debt hasn't. don't answer around the issue. de the debt has not come down. >> look, when president obama came into office he inherited a trillion dollar deficit because -- and >> and he repeated it seven years in a row. >> we've had the deficit come down and we're in a stronger economic position. >> this is not honest. >> having a moratorium on the regulations that could prevent the kind of crisis that we saw is a step in the wrong direction but what mr. trump proposed is freezing the regulations that require our banks to behave in a more responsible fashion. i don't think anybody thought that our problems were created because we were regulating the banks too much. it was because we weren't regulating them adequately. so we need smart regulation, not across-the-board freeze. >> on hillary clinton, would you admit this issue specifically, the economy, is the area where she is most vulnerable?
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>> i think she's running on a strong record. >> is she vulnerable or not? >> the economy is stronger than four years ago. president obama was reelected by a good margin so i would rather take that hand. >> barry, to you, i stopped counting at 12 when it came to the protesters. i think there were 14, i give mr. trump credit for rolling with it and keeping his cool. we talk about pivots but is this the last pivot where he's staying on message, reading the te teleprompter, is this the trump hoping to get elected on november 12k3w4r8 i'm excited about the pivot. i give up trying to predict tomorrow by today's standards. the protesting thing, this is new civility in american politics, which is very, very sad.
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it's an economic speech, why do you have to protest an economic speech. >> how many pivots, barry, how many pivots do you get in a presidential election? >> well in this particular election it seems to be quite a lot. >> barry bennett that you can so much. alan krueger, monica, thank you very much, all of you on economics. again hillary clinton speaking in a bit in florida and giving her big economic speech thursday in detroit. next, yes, it is august, yes the conventions are over but donald trump has a new competitor in this race, this former cia officer launching an independent bid for the white house. who is this guy and why is he doing this at this late date? also ahead, another bombshell from inside the walls of fox news. the former ceo roger ailes reportedly used campaign cash to hire spies to go after his enemies? how much legal trouble could fox
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we are minutes away from house speaker paul ryan making a campaign appearance in pleasant prairie, wisconsin. when you look at the poll there is, they give speaker ryan a comfortable lead over his challenger come tomorrow's primary but trump's delayed endorsement of speaker ryan makes this a race to watch. so with the -- with us in pleasant prairie is manu raju. when you look at the polls you think perhaps not, inbelated ent affect ryan at all? >> we're expecting ryan to win
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pretty han diddledly. if paul nehlen does win, it would be one of the biggest upsets in political history. paul ryan has been making rounds in his district including what he'll say with voters. earlier today he was talk in racine, wisconsin, which is something he disagrees with donald trump on. ryan has been a champion of free trade, led the charge to pass fast track trade authority in the house. he was asked specifically about the transpacific partnership and this is what he had to say. >> i don't think there's a high likelihood because, a, we don't have the votes to pass it because people like me v problems with significant provisions of it that we believe need to get fixed but here's the point, we need trade agreements. people say just get rid of trade agreements, don't do trade agreements. that's terrible. the question is, is it a good agreement or not and that's what
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donald trump says is right, which is we want good trade agreements. but you've got to have in an economy like this good ones so we can make it here and sell it over there instead of making it there to sell over there. that's the difference here. >> so clearly a more nuanced view of trade and a recognition of sorts from ryan that this anti-trade red rihetoric that w hearing has resonance in blue-collar areas of the state and states that have been hit hard by trade and by, frankly, the economy. but afterwards, brooke, assuming ryan wins, he and senator mitch mcconnell will be aggressively raising money for their house and senate incumbents in this election cycle frankly worried about the prospects of their majority, particularly donald trump's standing continuing to decline, brooke. >> speaking of incumbents, senator rubio down in florida. he's leading his primary
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challenger there as he wants to hang on to his senate seat but he's making news now that the zika virus is an issue in his home state. he said pregnant women infected with zika should not have the right to an abortion. how is that statement resonating in florida politically? zblrnts. >> well, he has a primary this month, brooke and presumably the republican primary he should be fine. but rubio's position on abortion is more conservative than a lot of his fellow republican counterparts. he opposes abortion in the cases of rape. he does believe abortion should be allowed to save the line of the mother, democrats clearly want to use this against rubio in a general election context where voters may be more moderate on this issue. but when you look at the polls rubio is doing well against his possible democratic challenger patrick murphy of florida and even if donald trump is struggling in florida, rubio is
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outperforming him so rubio feels confident, campaign feels confident but democrats see an opening on this campaign of zika in which rubio has led the charge in the senate for more funding so we'll see if they can get mileage out of that, brook. >> manu in wisconsin, thank you. meantime, hard core conservatives and the never trumpers in the republican party launching another hail mary. evan mcmullan. you ever heard that name? he's a former cia operative, recent chief policy officer for house republicans today announcing he's running for president. he'd like to, needs signature bus he'd like to. the 40-year-old will run as an independent and you're looking at pictures. this is mcmullan's campaign web site. his slogan "it's never too late to do the right thing." with me now, s.e. cupp, cnn political commentator. how are you? >> i'm well, thanks. >> evan mcmullan, did you wake up like so many others and say what? who? who? >> look, i heard of him.
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i don't know him personally. not one i was thinking he should run or maybe he'll run. no, this seems kind of out of nowhere and out of the blue but i did talk to a republican house member today who knows him and says he's the real deal and the next 72 hours will be critical because he'll have to weather obstacles. >> we'll walk through the obstacles but first, perhaps, in a favorable calm for him and run of the reasons why we don't know who he is. he was in the cia, a cia operative and part of his campaign will be touting his experience, terror hot zones and i'm wondering as we've heard through the months, criticism, let's say, of donald trump through republican members of congress then you hear from general and those who have been in the trenches literally. do you think that his experience will matter? >> you know, if foreign policy were as single issue as is a lot of people pretend it is or wish
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it were then hillary clinton i think would be beating donald trump even more handily than she is. so donald trump is probably the least prepared when it comes to foreign policy presidential candidate that we've seen run in a long time. and obviously voters care about that and a lot of other things you know, trade, the economy. so it's -- it's a good single issue to run on. he's obviously -- evan mcmullan is obviously more prepared than donald trump but i think voters will care about other things, too. >> s.e, elise labott just sat down next to me. what do you have? >> well, it's a letter by 50 former national security officials that served in various republican administrations talking about the fact that they don't think that donald trump is fit to be commander-in-chief. >> wow. >> it's a very interesting list of some pretty high-level officials, some former assistant
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secretaries of state, for instance, and secretaries of defense talking about his credentials. there's a lot about the personality but they say from a foreign policy perspective donald trump is not qualified to be president and commander in chief. they say "ear convinced he would be a dangerous president and would risk our country's national security and well-being" talking about that he does not only not understand the complex challenges but hasn't necessarily wanted to educate himself to listen to this and they talk about the fact that a commander-in-chief not only has to make the hard calls, brooke but has to willli to his commanders and they referenced the fact that donald trump says he understands foreign affairs and "knows more about isis than the generals do." so a lot of concern that if he were commander in chief, that he wouldn't necessarily listen to some of these people given the fact he doesn't really have a lot of national security experience that have more than he does. >> so listening to you, and s.e.
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let me pivot back, we've heard of women with advisory roles with bush or christie saying "we're now with her." but it's another thing when you hear from elise that these generals are saying no to trump. this has to be huge for hillary clinton to use, yes? >> yeah, hillary clinton's role at the state department was specifically within the realm of foreign policy and i think you talk to most republicans and they'll say she was a big fat failure so for her to be doing as well as she is, especially when it comes to foreign policy, means donald trump is viewed as particularly terrible on foreign policy and rightly so and i think elise is exactly right when she references this lack of curiosity about the geopolitical implications of the things that he says. that's the scary part. it's this unwillingness to learn what he doesn't know and that drum has been beat beating for s
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by foreign policy advisors. i'm just not convinced -- as damaging as this is for trump, i'm not convinced it will be a fatal blow. >> let me ask you, s.e, following up on some of trump's comments today, he used this phrase he's used a few times in describing the hillary clinton, the short circuit. he said that, he's questioned her mental ability and other things. here's a look at that. >> she's really pretty close to unhinged and you've seen it a couple times but people in the background know it, the people that know her know it and she's like an unbalanced person. >> i know, i know. but my question to you is cokie roberts, abc political analyst cokie roberts has said this that this is code for "don't elect a woman." do you agree with that? >> no, it's dumb but i don't think it's sexist. he took something she said and
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ran with it on the one hand it's like pot, it's keting, you're black. anyone who hears the word "unhinged" doesn't think of hillary, they think of trump. on the other hand, it's just not necessary. the compelling case against hillary clinton is not that she's crazy. it's the opposite, that she's so cunning and crafty and contemptible that she's lied and dodged her way out of accountability her entire career but no one in the trump campaign ever asked the question is this a good direction to go? does this jibe with our overall strategy. they just hear something and run with it. so i don't expect this to go very far, this hillary's crazy and unhinged because it's just not believable but once again i think it shows the lack of direction and strategy and organization inside the trump campaign, just shiny object after shiny object. >> dumb but not sexist. that's a quote from you. s.e. cupp, thank you so much, just quickly, elise. you wanted to jump in?
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>> i want to make two points. these 50 national security professionals are also -- this is not a ringing endorsement for hillary clinton. they said we also have many doubts about hillary clinton as do many of us but donald trump is not the answer. i'm not sure as s.e. said this is the answer. i think if he were going to make more of an effort to understand and listen to his foreign policy advisors and put them out to talk to us i think they might do better in terms of having more credibility. >> elise labott, thank you. thank you. next, a scathing "new york" magazine report alleging sordid details about how exactly ousted ceo roger ailes ran fox news and used company money to spy on and attack his own political enemies. next.
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yet another new bombshell in the roger ailes fox news scandal. so "new york" magazine, they're at it again. they reported the ousted fox news chairman had a so-called black room at fox's headquarters in new york out of that black room, roger ailes employed private detectives to spy on his political enemies. his critics, folks who they were looking into, other journalists. according to this report he paid for it out of his fox news budget. this comes after one of the network's female anchor,
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gretchen carlson, hit ailes and fox with a lawsuit claiming sexual harassment. according to this "new york" magazine report, the ailes run black room was discovered when fox executives started looking through the news division's financial records following ailes' ousting. that was written, again, by gabe sherman. so let's bring in host of "reliable sources" brian stelter and cnn legal analyst paul callan. so this black room, i've read gabe's piece. what was he doing? >> some reporters have suspected for a while. now we're hearing it was even worse, even more elaborate than we thought at the time. this was a secret room inside fox news where always conducted his private investigations. sometimes hiring private investigators to tail
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journalist. >> and their wives. >> that's right. and i've confirmed that yes there were five consultants to ailes who were dismissed that left the company. they were basically being paid by ailes through the fox news budget for various tasks. some of them were just friends of roger with no-show jobs. people in the building always wondered what are these people doing? what are their real jobs? it was unclear. according to sherman's report it was because they were doing this strange off-the-books operations for ailes. >> so then i'm wondering who would have been cutting the checks, who would have known about that? >> it's like that movie "citizen kane" where we're discovering rose bud in the basement and we're to find out what it is. his defense will be that this is perfectly legal because there's a thin line between investigative journalism and using a private investigator to get background term. >> but in the long run when this
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is investigated you'll look at three things, one, was there tax fraud of some kind? because if ailes was doing this for his personal benefit, didn't declare it as income, that could be a tax fraud. the second thing, is it a political contribution of in-kind services. let's say he was backing a particularly conservative candidate that he liked using these investigators, feeding them information rather than using it for stories. i think the final one is the most serious and interesting. that is are we looking at blackmail and extortion. because if he's using private detectives to stir up and get dirt on political opponents in the business and is using that information illegally there could be a violation of criminal
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law in that. >> people play politics in tv, in tv and in politics people play hardball but this is different. this sounds almost nixonian. ailes was an advisor many years ago to richard nixon. you have to wonder, even though ailes denies these allegations, if he sometimes had things to hide, if he was using these friends, these consultants to help hide it for him over the years. >> so final question, yes we're reporting on it, i wouldn't say incessantly, but if this happened at another cable network, how would they be covering it? >> john favreau, an obama aide, if this had happened on msnbc or cnn, fox would be covering it every hour of every day and he's right about. >> that and i think brian stelter and brooke baldwin would be followed by a private detective if fox were covering it. >> i knew fox did shady stuff against me as a reporter. they knew they leaked things about their web site, put nasty
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stuff on blogs but i had no idea they had private investigators following other journalists. it is chilling. >> brian stelter and paul callan, thank you two very much. coming up next, hillary clinton, she just started speaking in st. petersburg, florida. here she is and what her campaign is calling a sharp rebuttal to donald trump's economic speech today. we will take it live momentarily. quick break. we're back after this.
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loans. i'm going to make it possible with student loans to pay them down with a lower interest rate and end the payment after ten years. [ applause ] but if you're going to start a business, we'll put a moratorium on your student loan payments so you can borrow the money to get the business started. [ cheers and applause ] you can tell i'm pretty excited about what we can do to start new businesses and create more jobs. i think america's best years are ahead of us. i have no doubt about that ch. but i can't do any of this without your help. there is, as bill nelson says, a big difference between me and donald trump. now -- you know, i have pointed
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out what my plans are, what i think will help more people and how we will pay for them. well so today in detroit he's got, i don't know, dozen or so economic advisors he just named, hedge fund guys, billionaire guys, six guys named steve. [ laughter ] and so they wrote him a speech and he delivered in the detroit. now they tried to make his old tired ideas sound new but here's what we all know because we heard it again. his tax plans will give super big tax breaks to large corporations and the really wealthy. he wants to patrol back regulations on wall street.
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he wants to eliminate the consumer protection bureau which has saved billions of dollars for meshes. he wants to repackage trickle down economics. you know that old saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"? trickle down economics doesn't help our economy go. it does not help the vast majority of americans but it does really well for people already at the top. well, we're going to turn that up side down. we're going to make the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes for a change. [ cheers and applause ] >> so this is the beginning of the sharp rebuttal we heard about from a clinton senior advisor. this is a preview, if you will, of her big economic speech where she, just like mr. trump today, will be in detroit outlining what it will be like as far as
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jobs and americans and the economy in the first 100 days in the white house if she wins. so we'll take that, obviously, on thursday. meantime, jeb bush's son has now officially joined the trump train despite the fact that his dad, his grandfather, his mom, insulted them, hear why he says he is supporting donald trump and why a lot of big-name republicans are not following his lead.
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. pretty safe to say donald trump has never been fan of his former republican primary rival governor bush. that hasn't stopped jeb bush's son from backing the nominee. george p. bush is now urging republicans a in his home state of texas to support trump. texas land commissioner says it is time to unify.
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>> and in case you forgot, during the primaries it got brutal. >> he is asleep at the wheel, folks. very, very, very low energy jeb bush. his family is so ashamed. he's got that vicious streak. he is a gutless guy. jeb bush is a total lightweight. we have to get rid of the bushes of the world. they are weak, ineffective. >> wait, there's more to the colorful insults. here is a small list we have for you. no honor. low energy. clueless, hypocrite. failure. desperate. sad, weak. needs help from mommy. remember that one? pathetic. sad sack. poor. puppet. soft. embarrassment. total embarrassment. confused, and a basket case. from donald trump toward jeb bush. the list goes on and on. joining me now, former director of the nixon presidential
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library, here is my question. knowing that trump insulted his dad, his mom, his grand dad, what do you think that c conversation was right when he said, dad, i got to do this. >> this is a bush rite of passage. every bush has had this conversation. george h.w. bush turned against the policies of his father, prescott bush, and he understood. he talked to his sons and said to jeb and george w., you do what you have to do to be elected. including praising ronald reagan. i'm certain that jeb bush went to his son and said george p. you're part of the texas gop victory committee, we need republicans to be elected down the ticket. if you have to say something about respecting the nominee of our party you know it won't hurt me at all. this is a bush family tradition
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for the bush family blood is much thicker than politics. >> you say it matters in texas. talking to someone if the room, texas republican, who said yes indeed he thinks george p. bush endorse of donald trump will matter. do you think it'll matter outside of texas for the never trumpers? 60 second. >> won't matter at all. if george p. wants to run for governor of texas, which i think are in his plans at some point, the fact that he was loyal to the party will matter a loot. it george p.'s future, not donald trump's future. >> thank you. >> my pleasure. >> let's look at this week's p cnn's hero. he was homeless when football, soccer, motivated him and now he is doing the same for thousands of others. >> when you're homeless you lose more than just the roof above your head. you lose your dignity.
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self esteem. isolate yourself. football gives you a place where you belong. constance. friendships. got me my life back. >> awesome. see his full story at coming up next, dr. ben carson sits down with cnn for a live interview. we will get his take on trump's economic speech in detroit and the rebuttal hillary clinton is giving right now. we'll be right back. (vo) maybe it was here, when you hit 300,000 miles. or here, when you walked away without a scratch.
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trump economics in session. the lead starts right now. accord donald trump making the economy is easier than it looks. but under his plan, who saves the most? who saves the least? and who will take care of the kids? he watched his brother die. 10-year-old boy killed while riding a water park slide as a witness said his brother saw everything. now today new questions about whether this 17-story super chute should have been opened to begin with. plus, paging the department of personal vendettas a new report alleging roger ailes used the fox news budget to settle personal scores and avenge pete slides. >> plummeting polls,