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comcast nbcuniversal is proud to bring you coverage of the rio olympic games. i'm don lemon. "ac 360" starts right now. john berman in for anderson. donald trump tries to kickstart his campaign with a speech on the economy, but gets a kick in the teeth from 50 big-name republican national security experts who say he would be, using their words now, a dangerous president. he also hears from one new conservative who enters the race today who says he can win it all. hillary clinton takes a swipe at donald trump's new economic plan, faces ongoing questions about her truthfulness, and maintains her lead in new
polling. and jeb bush's son puts all the personal attacks on his father aside and endorses the man responsible for them. donald trump. so a very busy night. we're going to recap the trump reboot and begin with a letter that may have derailed it. >> reporter: a who's who of the republican foreign policy world, coordinating an unprecedented effort to stop their party's nominee from winning the white house. 50 former gop national security officials signing a letter saying, donald trump is not indeed, we are convinced that he would be a dangerous president and put at risk our country's national security and well-being. some high profile officials like former cia director michael hayden and former homeland security secretary michael chertoff have expressed concerns about trump before. but nothing like this forum. 50 like-minded foreign policy experts, many of them
nonpoliticians, coming together to say they're not wild about hillary clinton, but putting trump in control of the nuclear arsenal makes them alarted. "we are convinced he would be the most reckless president in american history." the letter was released just as trump was finishing a speech in detroit and trying to alleviate concerns those national security experts voiced, like lack of self-control. usually when trump is interrupted by protesters, he insults them. today, his economic policy speech was disrupted 14 times, but he bit his tongue, except to say this. >> the bernie sanders people had far more energy an spirit. i will say that. >> reporter: after a tumultuous week, it was trump's attempt to get back to basics. >> we need to stop believing in politicians and start believing in our great country. >> reporter: a detailed economic policy speech, but with a more
fundamental goal, reminding voters he's an outsider eager to disrupt a broken system. >> our party has chose on the make new history by selecting a nominee from the outside, and that's outside of the very, very already proven rigged system. >> reporter: but he also used his speech to the detroit economic club business people to talk tax cuts. and court wealthier voters that show trump may be at risk of losing. >> we're reducing your taxes from 35% to 15%. >> reporter: trump even dumped his own tax reform proposal, wiped it from his website and adopted the house republican plan. >> my plan will reduce the current number of brackets from seven to three, and dramatically streamline the process. >> reporter: but some experts in both parties have cautioned large tax cuts coupled with the
kind of increased spending donald trump wants could balloon the deficit dramatically. trump also used his speech to warn republicans considering voting for hillary clinton about her plans. >> hillary clinton, who has spent her career voting for tax increases, plans another massive job killing $1.3 trillion tax increase. >> dana bash joins us now. the national security letter, 50 officials who served in republican administrations, what is the trump campaign saying about this? >> reporter: they released a lengthy statement earlier tonight, and i'll read you one of the key parts of it. it says "the names of this letter -- excuse me, the nameses on this letter are the ones the american people should look to on why the world is a mess, and we thank them for coming forward to everybody knows who deserves the blame for making the world
such a dangerous place. they are the washington elite looking to hold onto their power and time they are held accountable for their actions. and he talks about the fact that they are part of the dynasties that have ruled washington and he would bring somebody different. i have to say, john, as much as he's saying that they're sort of part of the failed policies, the main purpose and the thrust of the letter is not so much on policy, it was about temperament. >> how did these 50 people come to sign this letter today? >> reporter: so interesting. i talked to some people that signed it. the gist is, these are people who have been talking amongst themselves, they are a people who have worked together for years, many of them about the fact that they were not thrilled with a trump candidacy. but it was in the past week as donald trump has been saying
more things about russia that alarmed these foreign policy experts that made them decide to speak out. again, in this letter, there's not much about the substance of what donald trump has been saying. it's very, very tough on his temperament saying that he just would not be the right person to be near the nuclear codes and so forth. so it is those issues that made them all come together and also the fact that these people travel the world and i talked to one who said he talks to world leaders who worry that his "recklessness" will cause america's enemies to be reckless also. joining us now is one of the republicans who signed that letter, matthew waxman, who has served at the pentagon, the national security council. thank you for joining us. i want to read a quick part of this letter. you say of donald trump, he's unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood, he does
not encourage conflicting views. he cannot tolerate personal criticism. he has alarmed our closest allies with his erratic behavior. all of these are dangerous qualities in an individual who aspires to be president and commander in chief with command of the u.s. nuclear arsenal. matthew, why this letter, why now? >> let me begin by saying, i'm no longer a registered republican. i'm an independent. i did serve in the george w. bush administration. i, in the past, have generally supported republican foreign policy and national security policy. i'm not very political by nature, but i'm here and i signed the letter out of concern that our system has produced a candidate who is fundamentally unfit for office. and i never thought i would be here in this position. i teach now national security law. i teach about how our
constitutional system has generally produced a foreign policy, a national security policy that advances american interest while protecting core values, and i never expected to be on television talking about a party nominee, a major party nominee for either party, as being fundamentally unfit to hold the office of commander in chief. >> unfit, you say would make the country less safe. there are critics who will say it's hyperbolic. that's the kind of hyperbole you hear in a campaign. >> i don't think it's hyperbolic at all. i'm concerned from everything that i've seen about mr. trump's character, he seems to be ethically, morally unward. this is somebody who rarely, when it comes to national security and foreign policy, expresses much in the way of a policy or strategy.
when he does, it's usually terrible. and this is also somebody who hasn't thdemonstrated the basic skills of managing foreign policy bureaucracies of the united states. that's supposed to be his strong point. but there's no indication that he would surround himself with knowledgeable advisers and rely on their good judgment and know how to make decisions when he's receiving conflicting advice. >> this letter made clear, though, that you have some doubts about hillary clinton. >> i think that's right. this is a letter signed by a number of us in our capacities as national security professionals. some of us would support mrs. clinton, some of us might not. all of us feel strongly that mr. trump is not qualified to be president, but i think that the people who sign that letter -- signed that letter have different views about how
they're going to vote. this is not a group that always agrees among itself on matters of policy. these are people who i work with inside the bush administration. we had vigorous debates, but we all agree about mr. trump's character. >> matthew, donald trump had an interesting response to this. basically what he said is, i don't really agree with a lot of the foreign policy in the bush administration. a lot of the people who signed this letter, he says, are the people -- he doesn't say directly, but basically who brought us the iraq war and the foreign policy messes plaguing this country. so could you be handing him something to run against? >> he can make that argument. it's sort of typical that he lashes out at criticism, everybody is stupid but him. i think the test of leadership is not whether you can avoid making any mistakes, but what do you learn from those mistakes
and what steps do you take to avoid making those in the future? when it comes to foreign policy, you can't just declare bankruptcy when something goes wrong and move on to the next project. >> matthew waxman, thank you for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> let's bring in my panel now. from chicago, analyst and friend ali velshi. kayleigh, at this stage in the campaign, you want to win over as many supporters as you can. there are 50 people on this letter. a lot of them are republicans, and have worked in a lot of republican administrations. would these be good people to have on board the trump campaign? >> of course, but i think the
republican elite in washington have very much been out of step with the republican base who elected donald trump in overwhelming numbers. what is going on with that letter, in the republican party, you have the john mccains, the lindsey grahams, more hawkish views more in line with hillary clinton's foreign policy. the other wing of the republican party is america first, let's not get involved in libya and syria, open space for isis. that is what that letter is more about, rejecting the america first wing of the party. >> matthew waxman says the letter really is about temperment. he thinks donald trump is unfit to be president. >> i happen to agree with him, so do a lot of other people. it's not just about the washington elite, that's a copout. these are people who have spent their entire careers as specialists and experts in these fields. i think they understand and know what's going on here.
just because foreign policy is one of those issue where is most people -- the average american isn't necessarily paying attention to nato and our allies and all those things. they want someone who is going to be commander in chief who they feel comfortable with. clearly, more people voted against donald trump in the primary and most people want to see someone who is sane and can be commander in chief. what donald trump has exhibited time after time is that he's not capable of doing that. when you go after p.o.w.s, a gold star family, you make flippant statements about nato, comments about making up videos concerning iran and what happened there. these are things you cannot do and you have to be responsible with your words and your -- >> i would say -- >> to be commander in chief. >> these are 50 people who are largely irrelevant outside of
the beltway. the names people might know like condoleezza rice, henry kissinger, colin powell, those people are not in there. i think a lot of these folks are career bureaucrats turned lobby. some even worked for the same firm. some of them, not matt waxman, but some have said that there's something that donald trump could do to get them back on board. i suspect they'll do that when poll numbers swing back to donald trump. >> i'll put it to you, because these are folks running the foreign policy of this country for about eight years. i doubt you said many nice things about these people from 2001 through say january of 2009. you probably thought, i don't want to put words in your mouth -- >> i think it's fair to say we had vast foreign policy differences. but that takes away from the fact that some of these people
go as far back as nixon, reagan, both bushes. but this letter wasn't as much about foreign policy as it was about temperament and character and the ability to be commander in chief. someone who praises the annexation after crimea, someone who encourages our armed forces to go out and water board and kill innocent families. that is unconstitutional on its face. so i think there are vast issues with donald trump's foreign policy knowledge or lack thereof. that's what this letter is about. as a democrat, i sit back and watch the fact that he gave an economics speech today where he didn't beat up a protester or encourage that to happen, so it was deemed a success. >> we will talk about the economic speech going forward. stick around, guys. we have a lot more to discuss of the break. ahead tonight, we'll have any conversation with the new independent candidate, evan mcmullen, just got in the race
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concerned about his candidacy, before his own new conspiracy theory tweets we'll talk about in our next hour, donald trump gave an economic report speech that his campaign billed as a major address. back now with our panel. we're still not going to her first. we're going to ali velshi. i want to talk about donald trump's speech today. big on tax cuts, renegotiating trade deals. big on getting rid of government regulations. there was a lot in this for a lot of different constituencies. >> right. let's start with trade, renegotiating trade deals to professor waxman's point, this is one of those areas where donald trump does think everyone else is stupid except for him. trade deals take a lot of time. he said he would get out of tpp. that's a position he held for a while. hillary clinton did come to that a little bit later. she was turned around on tpp. now he's talking about nafta. we'll renegotiate.
if it doesn't work, we'll walk away. it shows a lack of sophistication in our massive trading relationships with canada and mexico. we get a lot of oil from canada, the biggest trading relationship that america has. that's a bit of an issue. but he did have a lot of red meat for conservatives in there, getting rid of the estate tax, lowering the corporate tax to 15%, lowering the income tax to 25%. as you know, the top marginal tax rate is 39.6. he wants to bring it down, have only three tax rates across the board. he had a few other things for working women he has started to talk about a child tax -- child care tax credit. analysts are saying that it is more likely to affect higher income middle class families than lower income working families. tpp, his objections to it appeal to working men, generally speaking. so, you know, a little bit of stuff for everyone. here is the interesting part. he proposes to double the spending, the very necessary
spending on infrastructure that, for some reason, republicans have opposed and hillary clinton supports. he sort of went off beyond hillary clinton in how he would deal with infrastructure. not a lot of specifics. it does feel like he took a lot of people to dinner at the cheesecake factory, ordered a whole lot of stuff and then left them with the bill. it's not clear how he pays for all this stuff. he wants to lower taxes, increase spending and he believes that this will be solved been an increase in economic growth and that will answer the problem. that's risky and highly uncertain at best. >> now all i can think of is cheesecake. alex, let's talk the politics of this. last few days, trump campaign was putting a lot of emphasis on this speech. this speech was very important for them to turn a corner, the words you hear are reset, reboot. they want to talk about this and they don't want to talk about all the stuff we were talking about last week. >> they certainly don't. john, two sort of prongs of why the speech is important.
one is just the stylistic side. he delivered a speech on a teleprompter. he didn't get into it with any of the protesters, veer off into tang enters about hillary clinton or jeb bush for that matter. he stuck to the script. >> critics will say that's an incredibly low bar. >> it is but it's a bar he consistently has failed to clear. the substance of the policy is when you go see trump on the trail -- i saw him in a couple of different states last week. he gets fired up talking about trade, fired up talking about the washington insider class, globalist finance class. he doesn't really offer a lot for somebody who isn't a white guy laid off in a rust belt state. or may be concerned they're getting laid off in a rust belt state. his speech today was about to say if you're a woman in the suburbs, professional in the city maybe there's something i have for you, too. but the test of this will really be not just can he stay on script in the stylistic talking
points way but does this animate him, that he can get passionate about and that he can sell the way he has sold the trade deals? >> angela, i was struck by part of this was a traditional republican versus democrats type of speech. republicans painting themselves as the party, we're going to cut your taxes more than the democrats will, traditional debate we hear every four years. both sides seem to be okay with that debate. part of it wasn't a traditional republican speech. he talked about trade in a way you don't normally here from republicans who, have in the past been for trade. and then there was this child tax -- child care tax deduction, not something we've heard typically from candidates right there. that could be appealing, i imagine, to some voters. >> i think it could be appealing. the hill he has to climb to ensure that voters will support support him beyond a child care tax credit is major. i was saying earlier today that donald trump was given 99% a
brand new meaning. that is, 99% of people who look like me who are not supporting him, regardless of whether or not he was in detroit. the fact that his economic advisers, the group of them -- none of them look like me, as a woman or as a person of color. the fact that when you go to detroit and lay at the feet of the president and hillary clinton, who mind you has not been sworn in to be anyone's commander in chief, you can rest every economic policy, every failure that that economy is facing at the feet of the president is irresponsible. the fact that this was a fact checker's dream because they could go through and tear this speech apartment. he talked about black youth unemployment being at 42% but didn't say 49% of everyone else, every other american in that same age demographic is employed. so there's a huge problem here when you look at how they interpret statistics, how they push these number out. what they're actually using to
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hillary clinton has been campaigning the battleground state of florida, wasting no time blasting donald trump over his economic speech today. secretary clinton will detail her own economic plan later in the week. she is ahead by donald trump, double digits in the polls and getting support from unlikely places but has also tried unsuccessfully to put her e-mail issues behind her. pamela brown reports. >> reporter: hillary clinton is taking aim at donald trump's plans to bolster the u.s. economy. >> he can't escape the math. economists left, right, in the middle all say the same thing. that trump's policies would
throw us into a recession. >> reporter: at a campaign stop in st. petersburg, florida, clinton accused trump of pursuing policies that favor the wealthy at the expense of middle class americans. >> his tax plans will give super big tax breaks to large corporations. he wants to basically just repackage trickle down economics. >> reporter: clinton's campaign already hitting the airwaves in florida, looking to paint trump as someone who profits off other people's pain. >> i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters. okay? >> reporter: a new poll of polls shows clinton with a ten-point lead over trump, up six points from just before the conventions. now prominent republicans unhappy with trump are breaking from their party and coalescing around clinton. such a former michigan governor
william milliekin, who joins meg whitman and roger hanna. despite her recent gains, hillary clinton's latest effort to move past her e-mail controversy have backfired. friday she said she short circuited her remarks about the fbi statement on her private e-mail server. >> i may have short circuited and for that i will try to clarify. >> reporter: trump quickly pounced calling her unstable and unfit to be president. >> she used the term short circuit. she took a short circuit in the brain and she has problems. it amazes me, actually. honestly, i don't think she's all there. >> reporter: clinton's running mate, tim kaine defended her during a "meet the press" interview sunday. saying that she has apologized for repeatedly using her private e-mail server. >> i am not presumptuous enough to start thinking about how i'm going to do things after november but i know that this is something that she has learned
from and we're going to be real transparent. absolutely. >> reporter: the clinton campaign also taking note of trump's july fund-raising haul of $80 million. still $10 million shy of its own total but closing the gap. fact that campaign manager to write in a memo, this was far more than anyone expected and should be a wake-up call to all hillary supporters. >> pamela brown joins us right now from st. petersburg. what is hillary clinton trying to accomplish ahead of her own economic speech thursday? >> reporter: well, she's really setting the stage here in florida during her two-day swing here in this crucial battleground state ahead of what her campaign is saying is a major speech on the economy thursday in michigan. she came out today with these fresh attacks against trump. really what has become this escalating find over the economy, going after him for his jobs plan that he laid out today, saying he will cause a recession and only wants to help wealthy people like himself.
here in florida, this battleground state she wants to make sure she blunts his path to victory and capitalize on the momentum we've seen at the latest poll. cnn polls polls shows her up ten points and cnn poll shows she is making gains over trump when it comes to the economy. back to you, john. >> pamela brown in st. petersburg. thanks so much. back now with our panel. bakari sellers, i cut you off and we went to commercial. hillary clinton is giving her own economic speech thursday. yet she felt the need to go off script and respond directly to a lot of what donald trump said on stump today. is that a defacto admission that she can't let donald trump have a day on the economy? she knows the economy is an issue that concerns voters deeply right now. >> it's the economy, stupid. isn't that the lesson we've all learned? that was a saying. it's a saying. >> oh. you just called me stupid again. >> it was a saying. one of the things she has realized is that
you cannot let donald trump have a moment. you cannot let donald trump have a day. continue to put the foot on the gas, keep the pedal down and win every vote. donald trump doubled down on voodoo economics. we were talking about his child tax deduction. it's not a credit, it's a deduction. 40% of americans who actually filed pay no taxes. they don't get the privilege of having this deduction. no talk about paid family leave, no talk about raising the federal minimum wage. you just look at how this was all enveloped in blatant hypocrisy. he is the same person talking about bringing jobs back to america but does nothing of his own here in america. >> kayleigh made a point, about voodoo economics. a term we hear every four years in a campaign. democrats make that case, right or wrong. is this now at least -- is this part of the campaign a traditional r versus d discussion? if donald trump can have that discussion every day, is that ground where he feels
comfortable? >> yes. and i think that there was a lot of substance in the speech today that republicans will like. i think that he tried to be all things to a lot of people. it boils down to the economy. it's absolutely true. bill clinton and the "i feel your pain" and "it's the economy, stupid" came from one of bill clinton's advisers. >> james carville actually. >> yeah, it was james carville. but that's true. people vote on how they feel right now. how does it affect my pockets, my family. economic issues are very smart for donald trump to do. of course, there are some things that were concerning, like trade. that's a big problem. we can't go back to -- we can't go back to protectionist policies like we had under hoover that led to the great depression. that's a problem. donald trump said a lot of things that i think were attractive to people. and the clinton campaign is concerned about that. they know that people vote based
on the economy. when he went for the child care, whether it was a deduction or a credit, that speaks to a constituency that is normally a democratic one. that's why hillary clinton had to come out and address it. i will take the reagan economy over this current of obama any day. >> if i were a democrat, i would be scared. he drew a contrast with hillary clinton today, where he has created tens of thousands of jobs in his private life. he pointed to hillary clinton's record and said she promised upstate new york she would create 200,000 jobs. and in "the washington post," hardly a friend of donald trump or the republicans, came out and said her jobs promise failed to materialize. meanwhile, hillary clinton in the senate voted for taxes making as little as $43,000 and her running mate proposed a tax on people making as little as $17,000. it was a contrast. if i were a democrat i would be scared. >> joe, she just said if i'm a democrat i would be very scared.
let me flip that around. if you're a republican, which you are -- >> i want to address something that bakari said. 47% of american people don't pay taxes, and this wasn't a good plan because this deduction doesn't help those 47%. you know what? 53% of people do pay taxes, people like me. people struggling to pay child care. i'm happy that my candidate is speak together 53% of americans who do pay taxes and who do carry the burden. cnn poll of polls coming out today. l.a. times had him down -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> daily tracking poll, which has the biggest hillary clinton to date. >> poll of polls of l.a. times polls has him down by only one. >> cnn poll is an average of ten polls. >> if he speaks to those 53% of americans who are concerned about things like child care, concerned about jobs, then yes, his poll numbers will go up. >> i have to ask a very simple
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if there is one thing that donald trump has done very well in his quest to win the white house it's causing heated discussions between himself and other people, between people with different politics, between strangers, between people in his own party even people who used to work together in the very same white house. two people join me right now. they worked together in the same office in the reagan white house. frank lavin, white house political director who says trump is the emperor with no clothes and is now voting for hillary clinton. jeffy lord is also a former reagan white house political
director and cnn commentator, and also is a donald trump supporter. you've served every republican station the last 40 years. you say you're voting for hillary clinton over donald trump. how did you get there? >> thanks for having me on. look, it started with donald trump. and i mentioned two points in that essay, john. one is, look, if not exclusively articulating a bigotry, he evokes bigot sentiment toward groups and that should be unacceptable in public life. second my, his multiple bankruptcies. this is a fellow who has four different bankruptcies and yet seems to have enriched himself. that ought to be troubling for traditional republican voters. that's not the way business is supposed to work. those are two problems i articulated with trump. >> how did you lose lavin? what does that mean for trump's quest for the white house?
>> i really didn't. that's really not mike lavin. that's somebody who has had an invasion of the body snatchers and frank is somewhere else. listen, i know frank. i love frank. i have great respect for him. this is the discussion within the republican party, discussion among people who supported and worked for ronald reagan, george w. bush, george h.w. bush, jack kemp, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. i just disagree. i don't think donald trump is -- i know donald trump. he's a friend. he is not in the least a bigoted guy. i think we're talking about an american liberal movement that is bigoted that made their political bones on slavery, segregation and lynching and they still play with race card things today. that is very disturbing to me. secondly, frank has been an ambassador. there's no way in the world frank lavin would have a private server in his basement and run national security e-mails to them. he would never in a thousand years do something like that. that's what hillary clinton has
done. now we have senators cotton and sessions, connecting these things and wanting to check in to the fact that this poor soul in iran, iranian nuclear scientist was mentioned in these e-mails. it's an egregiously gross dereliction of duty that one can only imagine what she would do as president. >> those e-mails, everyone was talking about it publicly. what she said in the e-mails didn't go further than what was out there in public information. we'll talk about that in our next hour. ambassador lavin, i'll let you address the issue of the e-mails. you say there are things that concern you about hillary clinton. yet you still say you are voting for her. why do these things not concern you enough for her to lose your vote? >> sure. let me say upfront, returning jeff's kindness, regardless of your politics, who you're voting for, one of the brightest guys you can talk to on american political history, political trivia, political statistics is jeff lord.
and if you ever have the chance to grab some time with jeff, you're going to learn a lot. i compliment jeff just on his historical knowledge. he's a good friend and great guy to stand with. i'll turn to your comment on the e-mails. yeah, look, i do think that was a problem and it does give me considerable discomfort. i think jeff is exactly right that it's something that shouldn't be tolerated in government. here, to my mind, is the core difference between what hillary clinton did regarding e-mails and what donald trump did regarding bankruptcies. the clear difference is this. she said i was wrong. i made a mistake. i'm sorry. donald trump said i don't apologize. i'm not sorry and i made a few million dollars and people lost money. there's a clear difference of character between someone who has self awareness and recognizes mistakes and someone who has no self awareness and profits from other people's misfortune. that's how i distinguish between those two flaws. >> jeffrey lord, we talk about character and temperament. that's the subject of that
letter where we heard from 50 national security advisers who worked in various republican administrations. they say as ambassador lavin is saying right now, that donald trump doesn't have the temperament to be president. >> let me reach over here. i wrote down a list of some of the descriptions of hillary clinton in some of these different books written about her as given by people who knew her. they accuse her temperamentally speaking yelling, throwing, hollering, volcanic eruptions, holds grudges, unleashes obscenity filled tirades. in other words, what they're describing is somebody who simply doesn't have the temperament for this kind of thing. book after book after book comes out. they all have some kind of story in there about this. this is not a good thing. ronald reagan did not throw vases in the white house, i assure you. >> you're far away in singapore right now, ambassador lavin. in terms of ronald reagan, jeffrey invokes him often.
what do you think ronald reagan would say about donald trump? >> i don't put words in people's mouths. reagan stood for a republican party that was inclusive. donald trump does not. reagan believed in working through allies through a treaty structure. donald trump has rejected that view. at least on two very fundamental organizing principles there's a considerable difference between reagan and donald trump's view of politics. >> glad we could part of this office reunion. >> thanks, frank. good to talk to you. up next, a member of the bush family going rogue. he's the son of donald trump's favorite punching bag, jeb bush. how it came to me, when "360" continues. ♪
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you know what? it's to him to put it aside. for team bush it's a bitter pill to swallow. you get back up and you make sure that we stop hillary clinton. >> that's george p. bush who is putting aside the attacks donald trump made against his father. if you forgot them, gary tuchman has a refresher. >> reporter: it did not take long for donald trump to set his sights on jeb bush. >> i can't believe bush is in first place. some people are thrilled. i'm not thrilled because how could bush be in first place? this guy can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. >> reporter: early on, trump came out with a phrase to get under his skin. >> he's very low energy. i think jeb is a nice person. he's very low energy. i'm not used to that kind of a person. so let's assume somebody else becomes president.
let's assume a very low energy person, very very low energy, so low energy that every time you watch him you fall asleep. >> reporter: trump trotted out the theme at debates, too. >> i got along with clinton. i get along with everybody. that was my job, to get along with people. >> the simple fact is -- >> excuse me, one second. >> no. the simple fact is, donald -- >> more energy tonight. i like that. >> reporter: the low energy line usually got supporters laughing and applauding. so did the more personal insults. >> jeb bush, who's a total stiff, by the way, a total stiff. his family's so ashamed. look -- say it. the poll just came out. and i'm tied with jeb bush and i said oh, that's too bad. how can i be tied with this guy? he's terrible. he's terrible. >> reporter: then trump took it a step further. a far more provocative step. an attack on jeb bush by attacking george w. bush. >> say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. >> hold on.
you can't blame george bush for that. >> he was president, okay? don't blame him or don't blame him but he was president. the world trade center came down during his reign. >> the world trade center came down during his reign. remember that. >> excuse me, the world trade center came down during the reign of george bush, right? it came down. >> reporter: trump said this in august 2015. >> the last thing we need is another bush, believe me. >> reporter: and this six months later. >> the last thing we need is another bush. that i can tell you. >> reporter: donald trump never let up on his attacks against jeb bush. >> jeb, oh. jeb. he's asleep. he's asleep at the wheel, folks. >> reporter: trump did not pull punches with most of the republican candidates, but he seemed to relish jabbing jeb bush the hardest. >> jeb bush is a total lightweight. >> reporter: and even did so after bush ended his candidacy. >> jeb is gone.
he forgot three -- he forgot three words according to i'll say it, "new york times." three words, donald john trump. >> reporter: gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. much more ahead in the next hour of "360" including a new attack by donald trump. how the presidential nominee is firing back at the 50 former senior republican national security experts who call him dangerous to the country.
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