that trump gave a big economic speech to reset his campaign. now this morning, another blow to trump with a key republican senator saying she cannot vote for him, all of this as donald trump and hillary clinton spar over their economic vision for the country. let's begin our coverage with cnn's jason carol. jason? >> reporter: good morning to you, brianna. trump raised concerns when he questioned whether the united states should honor its commitment to nato. south korea and japan might arm themselves with nuclear weapons. his foreign policy positions and rhetoric continue to cause more defections from his own party. another prominent republican coming out this morning against donald trump. maine senator, susan collins, pinning an op-ed in the washington post explaining why she cannot vote for her party's nominee. i've become increasingly dismayed by his constant stream of cruel comments and his inability to admit error or
apologize. this as 50 republican national security officials warning in an open letter that trump is unqualified to be commander in chief. the experts who served in republican administrations from nixon to george w. bush labeling trump as dangerous, reckless and lacks the character, values and experience to be president. >> our system has produced a candidate who is fundamentally unfit for office. >> reporter: trump firing back at those who signed the letter, calling them part of the failed washington elite, who made the world such a dangerous place. >> i want to jump start america, and it can be done and it won't even be that hard. >> reporter: the gop nominee unveiling a new economic plan monday, hoping to reset his campaign after hitting a rough patch since the convention. >> she is the candidate of the past. ours is the campaign of the future. >> reporter: trump is revising
his tax plan now, calling for three tax brackets. the highest rate being 33% for individuals and capping the corporate tax rate at 15%. and in an effort to appeal to working-class voters, he hopes to make child care expenses deductible. >> at the centered of my plan is trade enforcement with china. >> reporter: trump once again called for renegotiating trade deals like the transpacific partnership. >> a vote for hillary clinton is a vote for tpp. >> reporter: wrongly claiming that hillary clinton supports it. >> he wants to basically just repackage, trickle down economics. >> reporter: clinton slamming trump's plan, saying there is little in there for the middle class. >> economists left right, in the middle all say the same thing that trump's policies would throw substance abuse a recession. the last thing we need.
>> reporter: trump did show some restraint while delivering his economic speech. it was interrupted more than a dozen times by protesters. as for that open letter, trump also saying in a response that he thanked all those that signed on for coming forward so the country could see who deserves the blame for making the united states such a mess. brianna, chris? >> good attempt at spin. does it work? what does it mean. jason carol, thanks for the reporting. let's discuss the implication. erol lewis. the daily beast, jackie kus niche and maeve resten. erol, who wins? 50 former national security experts say this guy is reckless if he is president or trump who says this is the problem that just hopefully came together in a group so we can identify. >> i think they both win. we've talked over the months
about what could happen with a trump candidacy. it could lead to, we've heard over and over again, sort of the dismemberment of the republican party. nobody really knew what that was going to look like. we thought there might be chaos at the convention. there really wasn't. we thought it might lead to all kinds of new candidates jumping in. that didn't happen either. what we've got is different parts of the gop accomplishment kind of walking away. and i think that's what these experts represent. i think trump gets his talking point. he gets to say, well, you're a part of the problem. on the other hand, these experts are giving psychological permission to people to take the last few steps if they were already on the fence or thinking about walking away from this candidacy and this party and they can sort of now say, well, look, there's a bunch of experts here. i was already uncertain about what i was going to do. but if all these people with all this experience are also sort of walking away after a life time deeply invested in the republican establishment, i
think i might join them, too. stay home, vote libertarian, again, we don't know what it looks like when you say the republicans are going to have a problem, but this is what it starts to look like. >> who are they targeting, jackie? we know that donald trump has been losing ground with white, college educated voters who might trend republican. is that really the block of people that is going to be receptive to this message? >> i think errol is right, they're targeting republicans who are wavering and looking at what trump is saying and doing and are really uncomfortable. we saw that in susan colin's op-ed. she listed a litany of things that she was watching, hoping donald trump would apologize for insulting the disabled journalist. hoping he would apologize for insulting judge cure yell over and over again. you're seeing the same thing reflected with her that you see with these national security expert. these are the same republicans that you see the clinton campaign going after. saying, it's okay to vote for
us. you don't have to jump on board the trump train. >> you have the national security experts who came back saying he doesn't have the experience. he has no interest in educating himself and his temperament would make him a reckless person in the white house. then you have susan collins who you were just talking about, jackie, she said different things. she wrote an op-ed and some of the thoughts are -- the passage of time i've been increasingly dismayed by the cruel comments, his inability to admit error or apologize. she also says she was holding out for a new trump. there were promises made of a new trump and we don't ever seem to see him. but is that fair in the policy context as well? there's no question trump is and is not who everyone thinks he is. he is showing you who he is every time he's on television, but the speech yesterday, did that help change him in the eyes of at least some critics? >> i think it may have. clearly this was donald trump at his most self controlled
yesterday reading from the teleprompter. he was delivering the kind of attack on hillary clinton with policy specifics that republicans had long hoped to run against her in this campaign, talking about how her policies represented the past and not the future. talking about nafta reaching out to all of those workers who feel like the u.s. trade deals are not working for them. so, it was kind of a reset, but we did end up spending most of the day yesterday talking about this letter from these 50 national security experts. i think that that really does re-enforce the notion for republicans that it's okay for them to not vote for trump, to vote their con science if you will. the louder these voices become from senator collins to these national security experts, it really does speak to those independent voters out there who also have concerns about his
temperament and are really uncomfortable when you ask him who he would surround himself in the white house. >> errol, he is closing the interest loophole, the cost of child care being able to deduct that, his infrasfrukture plan he is proposing is much bigger than her's but you look at the polls and he has a long way -- we were talking about yesterday seeing a very big spread. it's bigger today in a monmouth poll we're looking at where it shows for likely voters 50% are choosing hillary clinton, 37% say they would go for donald trump. when you look at that difference between them right now, what can happen between now and election day? >> well, he's going to have to, i think, do a lot more than what we heard yesterday to try to get back some of this category we keep hearing about college educated whites, especially white women who seem to be walking away. that is reflected in the poll. what he is trying to do in some respects is sort of buy them
back. it was the most mainstream speech we've heard from him about his economic plans. he didn't go too deeply into the trade side of things. it was a very standard republican play book, lower the top marginal rate on income taxes. you're middle class and kind doichk well from 39% to 33%, take out an envelope, figure out what that's going to mean to you. it would advantage people at the higher end of the scale. if that starts to turn the page for him, if that gets people back who are walking away from him, again, very unusual for republicans to lose among college educated whoot voters, but he is very much behind with women in that category. maybe this gets them back. maybe this gets them thinking. maybe it's the start of a different kind of conversation, but here again while he's dealing with that side of the economic conservatism, you have the defense conservatives walking away. he's kind of got a house on fire here that he has to try to pull
back together. >> jackie, it will sound like i'm hyping the debates a little bit, but i really do think that what we're seeing when these -- this man and this woman get on the stage together, it really may come down to that. the monmouth poll has clinton at 50%. there's no question at least statistically she has taken a little bit of a lead. so she is parlaying that. we thought trump would be challenging her to like 50 different debates everywhere, everyday, but actually she is the one who is saying, hey, they're suggesting three debates. i say yes to all three and i call you out, donald trump to do the same. surprised? >> let's not forget how good hillary clinton sat debates. she does excel in that forrum. right now look at trump's speech yesterday. yes, it was a very standard republican speech. that said, he kept saying we're going to release the details later. he said it over and over again.
hillary clinton is hoping -- she is very policy oriented. i think when the devil is in the details she is there. i think that's what they're going to try to exploit on the debate stage is making donald trump sort of look like an empty suit. if that's the plan, you think he is prepping for that right now. >> all right. thank you very much. there is more to discuss. appreciate the panel here. in the 8:00 a.m. hour, we'll talk to this new presidential challenger we were just talking about as errol said, not a flood of new candidates but this man enters the picture. evan mcmullen. who is he and what he could mean to the race coming up. lets's turn now to the rio games. lily king making a big statement against her russian rival setting a new olympic record and taking home a gold medal. this is michael phelps gears up for a very high stakes rematch and the u.s. women's gymnastics team prepares to defend its olympic title. cnn sports anchor coy wire live
in rio with more. it's a big, big day today, coy. >> reporter: absolutely brianna. yesterday was a big day, 14 gold medals up for grabs ch usa is still on top, 19 in total. china is in second with 13. you have japan and russia tied for third with ten a piece and lot of question marks surrounding every medal won in rio after the state sponsored doping scandal. but the biggest story on day three is the usa who continues to rule the pool. lily king making waves and striking gold. the 19-year-old setting an olympic record in the 100 meter breaststroke beating her russian nemesis yulia eufamova. king taunting her russian rival mocking her earlier gesture that she was number one. king showing her who is on top
now and teammate katie meily taking home the bronze. also setting a new olympic record, first-time olympian ryan murphy, capturing the gold in the men's 100 meter backstroke in just under 52 seconds. michael phelps breezing through the 200 meter butterfly. phelps looking to redeem himself after a shocking defeat in 2012 by a fraction of a second. tonight's rematch four years in the making with south african swimmer chad le clos who grabbed the gold from phelps. this appears to be phelps death stair. katie ledecky competing in the 200 meter free style looking for her second gold. team racking up gold from men's synchronized diving. kerry walsh jennings and april ross remain undefeated in beach volleyball. men's basketball dominating the olympic court once again.
absolutely rolling over venezuela. >> i was at that basketball game. that was incredible to see, but the big disappointment of the night, men's gymnastics, brianna. we were there for that team usa event. they came up a little empty handed. they finished fifth. we're sitting in the japan section of the crowd, they took the gold. but america sweethearts the u.s. women's gymnastics team is going to gold for tonight led by phenom simone biles. she is a sight to see. that will be awesome to watch. >> cannot wait to see that. it will be amazing. coy wire, thank you. also in our 8:00 a.m. hour, we're actually going to talk with the most decorated olympic gymnast in u.s. history, shannon miller. she'll give us a sense of what they're up against tonight a lot of pressure. >> a true champion. she knows the pressure and knows what it takes to deliver as well. we also have details of this donald trump economic plan, such as they were presented.
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and that there would be a 0% tax rate for poorest americans. then look at what he would do with corporate americans, 15% cap. moratorium on new business regulations and completely renegotiate nafta. when it comes to naf tarks that's something that bill clinton signed into law, hillary clinton supported back in the day. she has sort of flip-flopped on trade a little bit, but where is he targeting and who will be receptive to this message? >> well, it will be receptive in the so-called rust belt, in the places that have been hurt by manufacturing jobs going overseas. so he has pounded this over and over again in michigan, in pennsylvania, in ohio. he thinks he's going to get some traction there. the problem with that or the difficulty he faces is that there's no straight line correlation. he can't point to we're going to get this specific bunch of jobs back here under my plan. he says believe me, believe me,
he's telling people a different kind of economics will sort of play itself out. corporate decision making will go entirely differently. and we will not just have companies not leave but we'll reverse the flow of jobs overseas. there's a lot of economists who disagree with that. it will be a real point of contention in an election where the candidates say they're unlikable. they're very clearly on this one. >> maeve, where do you see this space? we haven't heard clinton lay out her plan the way trump did yesterday. we believe it may come later this week. what do you think were his biggest, strongest points yesterday? >> well, clearly he's trying for the first time to really reach out to women in a way that his daughter ivanka trump did at the convention by talking about this proposal that he has for a bigger child care deduction so that people can take in their taxes. and i think that that's really important because clearly the
campaign understands that that's one of their biggest issues is with college educated white women and women in general. so that really stuck out at me. it's as though the message finally got through to donald trump that he needed to offer something to those voters. but there was very little in the way of details yesterday, which democrats were quick to attack. and also they were pointing out that this plan would potentially cost trillions of dollars. donald trump has not really spoken about how he would pay for it. so it will be interesting to see more of those details emerge. but you did see hillary clinton come back with this very sharp attack yesterday as she was campaigning, saying these are not policies that help the working person, those people who feel like they're being left behind by the economy. and this is a plan that would really help sort of the super rich as she talked about, the wealthy individuals like donald trump. and so, we'll continue to see
her lay out those attacks as this week goes on. >> let's listen to that because we have her responding to this. here is what she said. >> he wants to basically just repackage trickle down economics. now, you know that old saying fool me once shame on you, feel me twice, shame on me? trickle down economics does not help our economy grow. it does not help the vast majority of americans. >> jackie, you have critics of donald trump's plan who will say, look, this costs a lot, but that didn't stop a lot of people flocking towards bernie sanders for proposing a plan that was going to cost a lot -- a lot of voters that's not what they hear. they hear the promises and the messaging of what the priorities are. but nor democrats, this phrase trickle down economics is a bit
of a dirty word. so where does this all kind of end up in terms of the appeal between hillary clinton and donald trump and these voters in the middle that they're trying to both get? >> you know, the economy is always top of mind for people during an election year. we'll see hillary clinton's details flushed out soon. but this donald trump plan is interesting for lots of reasons, in addition to be the orthodoxy on taxes we saw this basically lifted out of the house republican caucus, but he is also anti-trade but also has this child care deduction, which is not clear how it would help people without -- who don't have to pay income tax. so it really is sort of this hybrid structure that he's putting in place. we'll see how hillary responds in terms of policy coming up this week. >> smorgasbord for everybody. >> the advantage he has right now is that he is talking ideas and she is just attacking him.
it's a little bit of a role reversal. this group we keep talking about in terms of demographics, white, college educated republicans who may not vote for him. he didn't talk about paying for college in his speech yesterday really at all. do you think that was tactical? i'm going to do child care with three kids i would love to know -- >> sounds great. >> depends on what counts, school, food, clothing, what is it? is it day care, what is it? do you think that was a tactical move not talking about college when it was so big for bernie, which is something i thought he wanted to co-op? >> i think he just took the house republican plan, you know, pretty much wholesale stripped out anything related to free trade because he has a brand issue related to that. i don't know if he's thought through much of this stuff. in fact, he put down a marker yesterday. look, details to follow. right? because you've got to figure out how to pay for all of this stuff. there would be massive deficits just looking at it you see all
of this tax cutting. it's unclear how it will get paid for even if you assume the economy explodes and get all kinds of sort of different productivity and increase of income. i'm not sure he is looking at students or women or anything like that. he hasn't been that kind of strategic political thinker on his economic plan from day one other than his signature issue of trade. other than his signature issue of put me and my friends in charge and we'll be tough and stand up to china, that sort of thing. >> borrowing the house republican plan interesting as well as he aligns himself with the party. thanks so much to all of you. we have new details emerging this morning about the tragedy at a kansas water park. how did a young boy die on this world famous water slide? we'll tell you what we're learning ahead on "new day." [ gears stopping ] when your pain reliever stops working,
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injury. the slide at the kansas city water park is 17 stories high. drops riders at about 50 miles an hour. some guests reported that the slide's harness wasn't working properly. we'll stay on this story. three young girls injured when they fell 40 feet from a ferris wheel at a county fair in tennessee. authorities say the basket they were sitting in somehow overturned. emergency workers took two of the victims from the scene by helicopter and another was rushed to the hospital by ambulance. all three girls are said to be alert and communicating. all of the mechanical rides at this fair have been shut down as they investigate. well, we knew it was going to be more than one day and it is. headaches continue at delta. the airline cancelling nearly 250 flights today, delaying at least 200 others. why? the obvious. it's trying to recover from this commut computer meltdown it had that they said was caused by a power
outage. delta is trying to deal with the challenge of trying to find enough seats to accommodate the tens of thousands of stranded passengers. monday's outage grounded 1,000 flights. that's what they have to make up especially with the new delays of 2,600 more. they're giving you like $250 voucher for the inconvenience. how does brianna keeler feel about that? >> can you get a flight for $250 these days anywhere? >> seems like you can't get a flight for any price on delta right now. you have to wait. >> no. just seems like that doesn't go a long way. >> no, it doesn't. but the truth is this is one of the things we often see with the airlines. we fly all the time, so it's different for us. but when they make a mistake, the question is how do they make it up to the consumer. we'll see what delta figures out. >> that's right. let's talk about this, 50 of the world's top foreign policy and national security experts, they are slamming donald trump, all of them republicans saying that he would be one of the most reckless presidents ever. but trump's campaign has a
so past controversies back in the headlines for hillary clinton. the parents of two americans killed in the 2012 benghazi attacks just filed a wrongful death and defamation suit against clinton. how is this going to affect the whole specter of what benghazi means in terms of this election? let's discuss this with the former democratic governor of michigan and senior adviser for pro hillary clinton super pac and cnn political congressmen ta or and former lieutenant governor of south carolina who is supporting donald trump. we also want to talk about this letter that came out to 50 national security experts from your party, but this lawsuit, this plays on heart strings not just on the legalities involved. wrongful death, whatever you did wrong was the approximate cause of the death of somebody. so, it's a high standard of proof even though it's not criminal it's civil.
do you think this lawsuit is a political tool? or do you think that this could win in a court of law? >> i'm not schooled in law. that's probably a better question for the governor, but it's a difficult situation no matter how you slice it on the families, on the voters. it's a tough thing to talk about. i engaged one time in the khan situation no matter what the facts are, you kind of throw those out the window because the emotions in the loss of a child. >> so what's the point of the lawsuit? how do you rebut a charge like this, governor? you have obviously it's patricia smith and charles woods, sean smith and tyrone woods were the two who were lost at benghazi. what do you do with a lawsuit like this? >> i do think -- first of all, of course she is going to say that she -- the families obviously are really important and understandably be sympathetic toward their loss, but there have been nine congressional panels that have looked at this specific question
of her wrong doing and have cleared her of that, so there's a high burden for those who are suing on that given the amount of discovery, the amount of findings that have already occurred through non-partisan or bipartisan panels. >> the wrongful death part is really where that analysis would lay to bear. the defamation suit i'm assuming is a function of the suggestion of the families that hillary clinton told them when she met them that it was the video tape that was to blame for what incited this attack and that later on she denied that. when it came out to the parents, then you lied to us. no, your recollections of the family members must be off. they're saying that was defamato defamatory, she's lying to them. >> that's a high bar you have to reach because there are others who side with her in terms of what she actually said, including the other families' victims may not be members of this particular lawsuit.
it may be a tough case. you know, no one can dhut the pain of these families is very real. they want to seek some kind of closure. so you can't blame families for trying what they can, but i do think legally this will be a tough one. >> then you have a similar situation now in terms of political impact with these 50 former national security advisers. in truth, i don't know how this will play because i never heard of anything like this before where members of a party in mass like this -- i don't know how they got 50 people together this way come out and say not only does donald trump not know foreign policy, he doesn't seem interested in knowing about it and that he might be the most reckless u.s. president ever. how do you deal with that? >> i would disagree. you look at hillary clinton, she has 40 years of bad judgment and donald trump is a change maker. he is running against washington. when i became lieutenant governor, declassified all li lieutenant employees. you should have seen the chaos,
they aren't used to catastrophic change. nafta, they're not paying their fair share, it's time -- the burden is paid by everybody, not the u.s. government. we can't continue as good ste wards of the taxpayer dollar to pick up the tab for everybody else. i'm glad he's engaged in these conversations. lot of folks say you shouldn't talk about that. i think it's wrong as a leader not to say, wait a minute, you're not doing what you said you did and we are and we need do something. >> you dismiss out of hand 50 of your party's top foreign experts saying this is the wrong guy? >> i don't want to ever dismiss anybody, but i think again you're seeing washington kicking and screaming lot of folks in his own party, he is saying we're changing washington. it's broken. it's not working and he ran against the republican party establishment from the get-go. it's not anything new. the establishment is not going to support him now, they didn't support him before. >> chris, i think that everyday you are seeing more and more evidence of conservatives backing away from him. i'll be curious to see today for
example the fallout from the economic speech. granted, he went after and absorbed the same tax bracket that paul ryan had put out. gotch ya. on the estate tax, though, this is a really interesting one, to me. because he claims to be a blue collar billionaire. and yet .2% of americans pay the estate tax because you have to have $11 million of worth before that even kicks in. i get the billionaire part. but the blue collar part, that makes no sense. >> well, plays to people's idea of keeping what's their's. your family worked hard for this money. they built their family farm or they built their family fortune, whatever it is or whatever they have and now the state gets to come in and take more of it after their dead? >> except he has been trying to woo the bernie sanders people. the question of income inequality plays itself out incredibly in this estate tax
question. you want walmart to keep all of their money where they have this -- the walton family, whatever the statistic is has more than 90% of the country or something like that. why would you continue to exacerbate income inequality by keeping this particular provision, getting rid of that particular provision. what does it mean for him and for those who are on his committee that have advised him? how many of them would benefit from it? i think it will be interesting to see how that plays out, too. >> how do you defend the last point? >> i think that's a great point. i didn't think about it like that as far as the bernie sanders' folks. he philosophically believes it's wrong. i think it's a look. you work hard in this country, you sacrifice, you shouldn't have to sell everything when you die when you transfer it -- >> not everything. >> lot of times that's what happens the assets in the business, it's not like they're sitting on the money in the
bank. i think it's an overall what he believes the fiduciary responsibility of the government and the fairness of taxation. >> interesting points. we'll keep spinning it out as we hear more of the details in the economic plan and this big news that came out today of this lawsuit and this 50 experts coming together. thank you for all of that. appreciate it. brianna? >> florida may just be the biggest of all battleground state battles and winning it could be a ticket to the white house for either hillary clinton or donald trump. this focus on florida in our special battleground series ahead. soon, she'll be binge-studying. get back to great. this week sharpie singles now twenty-five cents. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. dog chow for 36 years now.d i've been making my dog girlfriend is 17 years old. she's been eating dog chow from her very first day and she can still chase squirrels. she can't catch them, but she can still chase them.
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with another case of the zika virus. this is the first locally acquired case in palm beach county. governor rick scott said the infected person cently traveled to miami dade county which is ground zero for the local outbreak there. there are 17 cases locally transmitted of zika in south florida, including at least 14 in miami's wynwood county. >> file this under dangerous and bizarre. 23 people got hurt when this dog went on a two-hour rampage tearing through a street in china. look at that dog. it just keeps attacking people at random. jumping, chomping down hard on them, refusing to let go. police captured the dog and were ultimately forced to kill it. it is unclear if the dog had an owner or what set it off. one dog. >> that's scary. expect hillary clinton and donald trump to spend a whole lot of time in florida between now and november because this is
florida is very hard to predict. >> morning, brianna. a lot of people come to florida and maybe as a result of that they may think they know florida, but politically this state has been changing and changing fast. it's not your grandfather's florida anymore. with 29 electoral votes, florida is the biggest prize of the battleground states. but the difference between winning and losing here is often really small. >> in 2012, obama just won florida over romney by 0 .9%. this is a fiercely fought for state. >> reporter: there are currently roughly 4.4 million registered republicans and close to 4.6 million democrats. the florida voters both campaigns want are the nearly 3 million independents who give this swing state its swing. who are they? data shows they're young, part of the influx of new residents
gone to work rather than retire. >> you take the youngest generation the millennials 18 to 34-year-olds plus the gen-x, the generation right ahead of them, they make up of 47% of the florida voters. >> younger voters have other concerns than social security. jobs, the environment. >> i would say tissue of student loans. >> reporter: these swing voters include hispanics, not traditional right-leaning cuban americans, but puerto ricans with different politics. their numbers growing fast. >> 6 to 7 -- >> thousands. >> thousands every month coming to florida. >> to look for opportunities or see what is happening. >> reporter: republican organizers say they've been paying close attention to these new arrivals. >> the republican party we're focussed on the economy and really how we can help them really achieve that american dream that most puerto ricans are looking for. >> reporter: hillary clinton's campaign also is making a big
push for hispanic voters in the state. relying on hispanic volunteers and selecting a running mate, tim kaine who is fluent in spanish. [ speaking in spanish ] >> reporter: the democratic ticket holding its first appearance together last month in miami. one last thing about these critical voters, they all live in roughly the same area, going from tampa to orlando and daytona. the i-4 corridor, it's the battleground of the battleground state. >> what a crowd. florida, we love florida. >> reporter: donald trump was there just last week. clinton was there monday with appearances in st. petersburg and kiss mee, but she seems to be there everyday on tv. >> and you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves. >> reporter: since early june, more money is spent on tv ads in florida than in any other state with clinton forces outspending
trump and his allies 12-1. that's 20 million versus 1.6 million. >> i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> reporter: but republicans say the key to florida isn't going big with tv, it's going small. identifying with what they call turfs, pockets of 6 to 7,000 voters where they focus hundreds of local volunteers. it's grass roots politics 101. straight out of the obama florida play book. the clinton campaign is also trying to rewrite the play book, going after republican voters. >> we have a lot of republicans, particularly in south florida who are not happy with their nominee, who are having conversations with. >> wooing voters is one thing, but it takes organization to turn out the vote. the rnc says it currently has over 70 paid staffers with plans for at least 20 offices statewide. democrats say they're aiming for at least 100 offices and already
have well over 200 paid staffers on the ground. judging by those numbers it may seem that donald trump is behind in this state organizationally, but some political advisers say he may be betting on an old tradition that campaigning during the summer is considered intrusive. if he wins florida, of course he is a genius. if he loses, that may be looked upon as a big mistake in the battle for the biggest battleground state. brianna? >> and we will see which it is. we're also following a whole lot of news. let's get right to it. a group of 50 former national security officials warn that donald trump would be the most reckless president in u.s. history. >> this is not the way commander in chief should act. >> i don't think this is anything i would take seriously. >> stop believing in politicians and start believing in our great country. >> he's putting our economy at risk. >> every policy that has failed,
is a policy supported by hillary clinton. >> trump is scrambling to do damage control. >> she has been a disaster. two golds in the pool on monday night. >> making waves and striking gold. >> phelps and leclos face off tonight. >> the u.s. women's gymnastic team prepares to defend its olympic title. >> reporter: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and allison come ra doe. >> big day coming up. we saw michael phelps qualify yesterday for the butterfly. you think he will win in the end? >> always. i don't have to think about it. don't try to mad dog me the way phelps was doing with that guy from south africa. >> i will be giving you the side eye. >> good morning. welcome to your new day. alisyn is off. the republican resistance to donald trump seems to have
reached a new high. 50 former national security officials all republicans writing an open letter warning that trump would be the most reckless president in u.s. history. >> now this morning a key republican senator says she cannot vote for trump either. a day after he and hillary clinton squared off over their economic policies. let's begin our coverage now with cnn's jason carol. >> reporter: good morning to you. first to that open letter, the national security experts say that trump lacks the basic knowledge about the u.s. laws and the constitution and that he will weaken the country's moral authority. trump says he has the knowledge and the temperament to be president, but a number of people within his own party simply do not believe it. another prominent republican coming out this morning against donald trump. maine senator susan collins pinning an op-ed in the washington post explaining why she cannot vote for her party's nominee. i've become increasingly dismayed by his constant stream
of cruel comments and his inability to admit error or apologize. this, as 50 republican national security officials warning in an open letter that trump is unqualified to be commander in chief. the experts who served in republican administrations from nixon to george w. bush labeling trump as dangerous, reckless and lacks the character, values and experience to be president. >> our system has produced a candidate who is fundamentally unfit for office. >> reporter: trump firing back at those who signed the letter, calling them part of the failed washington elite who made the world such a dangerous place. >> i want to jump start america. and it can be done and it won't even be that hard. >> reporter: the gop nominee unveiling a new economic plan monday, hoping to reset his campaign after hitting a rough patch since the convention. >> she is the candidate of the past.
ours is the campaign of the future. >> reporter: trump is revising his tax plan now, calling for three tax brackets with the highest rate being 33% for individuals and capping the corporate tax rate at 15%. and in an effort to appeal to working class voters, he hopes to make child care expenses deductible. >> at the center of my plan is trade enforcement with china. >> reporter: trump once again called for renegotiating trade deals, like the transpacific partnership. >> a vote for hillary clinton is a vote for tpp. >> reporter: wrongly claiming that hillary clinton supports it. >> he wants to basically just repackage trickle down economics. >> reporter: clinton slamming trump's plan, saying there is little in there for the middle class. >> economists left, right, in the middle all say the same thing, that trump's policies would throw us into a recession.
the last thing we need. >> reporter: and as for trump's economic speech, he stayed on message despite being interrupted by protesters more than a dozen times. his daughter ivanka, who attended the speech yesterday, coming to her father's defense. she told the detroit free press that her father's critics are scared of a trump presidency and that he is level headed and now is not the time to tell trump to alter his approach after he has had so much success. chris? >> jason, ivanka is right. there are people who are afraid of a trump presidency. is question is for what reason and is it a good reason? 50 former national security officials signing this open letter saying they're afraid of donald trump that they believe he would be a reckless president. one of them is aaron freeberg. former deputy adviser to dick cheney and professor at
princeton university of policy and international affairs. professor, thank you for joining us. let's have this out a little bit. donald trump's perspective is this -- everything that's wrong in the world right now has hillary clinton's name on it, whether it's the aftermath of what happened with the iraq invasion, the war against isis and is failures. the failed russian reset. what we saw happen in libya. why would you do anything to suggest she is a better choice than donald trump? >> well, just to note the letter doesn't endorse secretary clinton. it's focussed on criticisms of mr. trump. so one doesn't have to like or love mrs. clinton to be more strongly opposed to mr. trump. he blames the signatories of the letter for all the problems in the world today, but most of these people haven't been in office for over eight years, last time i checked the democrats had been in power for
eight years. so his response doesn't make a whole lot of sense. >> what i'm saying by implication. you say donald trump can't be president, you're leaving people with one real choice barring a libertarian or any new candidates that enter. let ee's get to why you believe this about donald trump. what causes you to believe he would be reckless? >> there are a number of reasons that one might be opposed to mr. trump. he has no relevant experience in government or the military to be commander in chief. he has very little knowledge and seems to be uninterested in acquiring any about problems facing the country. his positions on a variety of iv shoes i think are dangerous. he called into question the so lidty of our alliances, he expressed fondness for dictators. but -- this is i think the main point of the letter, he's also demonstrated a poor temperament. he's quick to anger. he takes all policy challenges as personal criticisms.
he's impulsive. he's reckless. this is not the person you want as commander in chief. >> he says he's tough and that he doesn't talk the same b.s. that all politicians have done in the past and it's really resonated within your party. he beat a thick field of some 16 plus him. he got through it. and isn't that a sign of confidence from people that they like his persuasion? what's the difference between how you see it and how they see it? >> well, a lot of people did vote for mr. trump. he didn't get by any means majority of the votes. it was a very crowded field and he was able to take advantage of that. frankly i think a lot of people are frustrated with washington, unhappy with politics adds usual and i think for many people this is a protest vote but it's a very dangerous one and that's the point of the letter. if you're frustrated, you're angry. that's understandable. don't put someone in power that can endanger the constitution and the people of the world. >> he says you see this group of 50, they're part of the problem.
these are the people who put us in the situation that we're in today. why should people value the opinion of the 50 in this open letter? >> well, again, i think his reaction to this is kind of typical of trump, which is to lash out and attack people who disagree with him. as i said, it doesn't make much sense as he does in the letter to hold responsible for all the problems of the world, people who were last in office a long time ago. he also accuses people of being interested in maintaining power, being members of the elite and so on. if these people wanted to maintain access, they would be supporting the candidate of their party and they've chosen not to do that which is pretty dramatic. mostly this is not about the past and relitigating debates of the past, it's about the future and who is or is not capable of exercising the powers of the office of the presidency. i think all of the people who signed that letter, they have different opinions on many issue. may differ about the past or differ about current policy questions but they're agreed in
their jupt about trump's character and temperament and feel he could be a danger. >> would hillary clinton be a better president than donald trump? >> in my opinion she would be. she's better qualified, has ample experience. she hasn't demonstrated the kind of erratic temperament that mr. trump has. that doesn't mean i'm necessarily going to vote for her. if i would, i would not do it very happily. i think she has not been honest about some issues, but the choice for me is fairly clear. mr. trump is a danger to our institutions, i think, danger to the social stability of the country and danger to peace of the world. mrs. clinton is many things, but i don't believe she is any of those. >> you don't think that what you see as deficiencies with trump could be cured by the people he puts around him? that's a big selling point of his is that he knows how to bring in the best people m of them might be outsiders from government, he says, but he could do it that way. you don't believe in his ability
to build a team? >> i don't. in part because so many people across the board in the republican party, people who you would have expected to sign up with the party's candidate or who would be in line for high office if a republican were to be elected have said that they would not serve in a trump administration. i think he will have great difficulty in staffing an administration, particularly in foreign policy and defense policy. who will he get? >> one last point to the people watching this right now and who are angry and frustrated as you point out and they say anybody who rejects the status quo is good enough for me because i don't like what's going on in the world and donald trump recognizes that. what is your response to those people? >> i think, as i said, it's understandable why people are frustrated. it's important that they get out the vote. i think they have to exercise their democratic rights. but you need to ask if the person that you're putting in that office is really the one you want getting the 3:00 a.m.
call, having to make a decision about whether to use nuclear weapons, to use force to put american men and women in harm's way. is this person with his hot temperament really the one that you want making those decisions? i think many people who might be tempted by trump in november will decide the answer to that question is know. >> aaron freedberg appreciate your perspective. one of the 50 national experts to sign on to this open letter. thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> there's one take. in the next hour, we'll talk to new presidential challenger evan mcmullin. who is he? why is he jumping in the race? chris, there is a fiery showdown at the rio games. u.s. swimmer lily king sets an olympic record, clinching a gold medal while slamming her russian rival. this is a big day ahead in both swimming and gymnastics. coy wire has it all covered live in rio. this is an exciting day
following another exciting day, coy. >> reporter: absolutely, brianna. you said it best. i love all the trash talking we're getting. you have 14 medals up for grabs yesterday and we're always going to keep you up to date on the medal count here on "new day." let's take a look at it. usa still on top with 19. china in second with 13 and japan and russia tied for third in ten a piece. there will be question marks any time a russian wins a medal after the state-sponsored doping scandal. the biggest story from yesterday had to be the usa in the pool. they straight dominated. lily king making waves and striking gold. the 19-year-old setting an olympic record in the 100 meter breaststroke, beating her russian nemesis yulia efimova. king taunting her russian rival who served 16-month suspension for doping with this finger wave before their showdown, mocking her earlier gesture that she was number one.
king showing her who is on top now and teammate katie meili taking home the bronze. also setting a new olympic record, first-time olympian ryan murphy, capturing the gold in the men's 100 meter backstroke in just under 52 seconds. michael phelps breezing through the semifinals in the 200 meter butterfly. phelps looking to redeem himself after a shocking defeat in 2012 by a fraction of a second. tonight's rematch four years in the making with south african swimmer chad le clos who snagged the gold from phelps. the tension between the two palpable in what appears to be phelps' death stair. katie ledecky aims for her second gold medal tonight. team usa racking up silver for men's synchronized diving while three-time gold medalist kerri walsh jennings and partner april walsh remain undefeated in beach volleyball. men's basketball, dominating the
olympic court once again. absolutely rolling over venezuela. >> guys, the big disappointment of the night last night, men's gymnastics. i was in there in that arena. usa just coming up empty handed. lit off their game. they finished fifth in the competition. japan won. america's sweethearts usa women's gymnastics are going for gold tonight led by phenom simone biles. plus you have michael phelps looking to add to the 19 olympic golds he already has in the 200 pleater butterfly and then katie ledecky going for her third medal of these games in the 200 meter free. >> speaking of michael phelps, his death stair that you mentioned was crazy, wasn't it? check this out. >> do you think he was mad dogging him, coy? what do you think? >> reporter: you are seeing raw emotion and passion right here. this is the stuff memes are made of. the internet went crazy with this. are we going to see phelps as
the next star wars character? will it be darth michael next? this is outstanding. >> that was his effort. >> le clos was going to explode. >> i don't know what he was listening to. coy, let me see your best game face. what do you got for me? >> you ready for this? >> you got it when we first met. you ready, turn your head, brianna, this is nasty. [ laughter ]. >> that's good. you see how the eyes go crossed? >> hair on the back of my neck is all up. >> thanks, coy. >> i didn't know he could make something so pretty look so nasty. coming up in our next hour, we have got a great guest. we'll talk to the most decorated gymnast in olympic history, shannon miller. >> i'm still shook up on coy wire. trump gave his big speech, his economic plan. now it will get its scrutiny.
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well, donald trump is hitting the reset button by getting down to business and laying out specifics of his economic plan. can he jump start the u.s. economy as he is promising? i want to discuss now with cnn political commentator and former donald trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. he is still receiving severance from the trump campaign. and we have former director of the congressional black caucus angela rye. i want to talk about some of the things he announced very important. among them, three tax brackets. i think we actually have a graphic that we can pull up to show some of the things, three tax brackets instead of the several. the rates would be at 12%, 25%, 33%, 0% rate for the poorest. then he is bringing down the corporate tax rate to 15%. so, cory, i want -- also
stopping new regulations, renegotiating with nafta, of course this trade position is something that's been a key part of his candidacy. who is he trying to atact here, cory? >> well, if you look at what he's doing is simply flying the tax rate. we're trying to get more people money in their pockets. it's the lower middle class. he talked about being able to deduct child care. it's a very big expense, as you know. day care, child care for the parents who both have to work. deduct those from your taxes $12,000. >> this is clearly something that angela some mothers and certainly people who have children, families their ears will perk up when they heard that. what did you think of his proposals? >> sure. on the child care piece i think you have to be able to afford child care to actually receive the deduction.
more over, i thought holistly speaking this is a mare la goe members economic plan. this does not strike the blue collar billionaire and demonstrates just how out of touch donald trump is with everyday working americans. donald trump from the outset talked about being opposed to a minimum wage. he flip-flopped on that and later said he would raise it maybe to $10 an hour but nowhere near the president and hillary clinton and even bernie sanders of course has pushed and had pushed at every rally. so i think he is still out of and demonstrates he has some miles to walk when it comes to reaching everyday americans. >> we're hearing some economists back angela up there on that, saying that this maybe isn't going to help the lower middle class. how specifically does it help people who don't make a ton of money, are lower middle class or even below the middle class? >> here is the fundamental
difference republicans and democrats when it comes to your money. it's your money. the lower tax rate you're paying, you can decide what to you can save it. stimulate the economy with it. look, hillary clinton's tax rate is 39.6% the highest tax bracket that she wants to be charging which means less money in individual's pockets. less money to reinvest into the economy and donald trump's plan, which is a big component of this is lowering the corporate tax rate to make the united states more interested to the world. people have to remember, our government doesn't have jobs. our government doesn't create jobs. our government doesn't help fix the economy in that way. we have to take that corporate tax bracket and bring it into more more in line with the rest of the tax bracket in the world. >> that's a big misnomer i want to offer some clarity on that. we actually just saw in the last jobs report that the president has 74 consecutive months now of private sector job growth, in
addition to being a stimlator of private sector jobs, the government has does create jobs and it does actually employee several thousands of people. so that's actually not true. i think it's important for us to offer clarity on that. the other thing that's important hillary clinton, as you know, called his plan a revisitation basically of trickle down economics. his plan -- just like his campaign theme, make america great again, is not reminiscent of where we're going in the future. there's nothing on peck. it's a huge job creator and stimlator right now. >> let's talk about hillary clinton and some of the promises she's made. donald trump has certainly taken aim at that. hear is what he said about clinton when it comes to jobs. >> many promised jobs -- they were all promised. i remember so well. vote for hillary, she'll bring back your jobs. many promised jobs never
materialtized and others mie grated to other states. data shows up stay actually lost jobs, a lot of them, during clinton's first term. >> bill clinton has touted that his wife was really the de facto economic development officer when it cams to up state new york when she was senator. that is the time period that donald trump is talking about. but actually what we see looking back -- and you've seen this recent report from the post, job growth stagnated. manufacturing jobs down 25%. how does she make a case that she is the jobs creator when you're looking at statistics like that, an degree sna. >> we have to know basic statistics. she was one of the 100 senators so she can't be responsible for the entire state. we know just like with donald trump on the stump, bill clinton is not always correct. sometimes he gets a little ahead
of himself and can shoot himself in the foot when it comes to being a surrogate for his wife. i don't think that means that the whole new york economy should rest at their feet there's a governor, a sitting president at the time and she did the best she could. we have to be honest about the impact of 9/11. >> hillary clinton campaigned on bringing 200,000 new jobs to the up state new york area. the bottom line was the data indicates that never happened. if we are going to judge someone and give them a promotion where they promised to 200,000 jobs and delivered zero. why should we believe that will take place? it's very simple. >> i want to ask you about donald trump's tax returns. we have a number of republicans who say he needs to come out with these. why isn't he? >> he's been very clear about this. he's been under routine audit. >> leemly that doesn't prohibit
him from releasing them. >> if i was your legal counsel, i would not encourage you to release your taxes until that audit has been completed. i don't know what you think you'll learn from the irs audit. the paperwork he filed with the federal is significantly greater in detail than any single year of the irs trurns. >> it doesn't tell us what he paid in taxes. >> what tells us what his net value and net worth is the number of liabilities, number of assets. look, what he said as a business executive and someone creating jobs, he will pay the least amount of taxes as possible because that's his obligation to his family, business, employees. >> why doesn't he tell us the number then? >> what does it matter if he paid 20 or 40%? >> if you're saying he's making a case for his -- for what his priorities are to his family and
businesses, why doesn't he make that case and release? >> his taxes he paid the least amount of taxes as humanly possible. that's what a good businessman does so he can create more jobs, have more people working in the economy. that's a what a good business does. they don't try to give nomoney a failed washington, d.c. who can't control their spending. >> chris? >> all right. how about this latest development, the top 50 national security experts from the gop slamming donald trump. so, what does the clinton campaign going to do to convince people that she is the right choice because just because they say trump isn't the right choice doesn't mean they're enforcing her. we have a hillary clinton supporter next.
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believe in working across the aisle. you have former homeland security and tom ridge. i respect him but he is very consecutive and hayden the former head of the cia. that's a very impressive list of national security advisers. hillary clinton is a serious, thoughtful, former secretary of state as several people have said, there's no one more experienced than hillary clinton. president obama said this in his democratic speech ready to take this job. and when you've got a list of those kind of people saying a candidate is not ready, that is very serious, chris. >> let me ask you to answer a question we hear often here, hillary clinton, secretary of state as you mentioned, senator from new york, can you name her biggest single achievement in public office? >> well, you know, i've worked with her forever. that didn't come out right. but i got to know her. we were both working spouses when we were working on
children's issues. you know, when you look at what she's done for children in this country over the decade, we have a children's health insurance program because of hillary clinton because she doesn't give up. she digs into the policy and she knows where we've got to focus. but there's so many other issues quite frankly when she did become united states senator. i'll tell you what, we're in michigan. she is coming to michigan. trump was in michigan yesterday. she rolled up her sleeves and dug into who the auto industry was. when we were in crisis in 2008 -- by the way, it was a partisan issue but it happened under george bush, it was something that our economy at the time for many reasons caused. she said, how do i help this industry? she supported a bailout. suring up the industry. donald trump has been clear that he wouldn't have done that. when he talked about the jobs yesterday and what was here, if he had been president, those jobs wouldn't be here. >> what about as secretary of
state, what do you think her biggest foreign policy achievement was? >> you know, she was a good secretary -- she was an outstanding secretary of state. she worked on issues from one side of the world to the other. she got on that plane and she brought people together. mid ooets, it's one of the most volatile regions of the country. i know it. i'm living in deer born, michigan. she has the trust and respect of the leaders of those countries. >> do you think it's problematic, what's the main argument, isis is scarier than ever. what's going on in the middle east seems just as unstable as ever. russia seems more formidable than ever. all of these things took root, you could argue, during when hillary clinton was secretary of state. how do you defend that proposition? >> well, first of all, they began before then and they've been building. you know, by the way, i find it
really disturbing when a presidential candidate encourages a foreign government like russia to interfere in our elections. that's probably the thing that disturbed me the most about this entire election. we have to come together in a bipartisan way. national security i think that's what's bothering me the most. i'm seasoned enough to know when it comes to national security, we have got to be unified as americans, not as partisans. and it's going to continue to be a very serious issue in this country. i want you to think about who you want leading us with a steady hand on these foreign relation issues. and the fact that 50 republicans would say they don't trust donald trump is something that makes me shiver. >> well, something is going his way, though, right? because not only is he close in a lot of battleground states but we now hear he is catching up to the clinton campaign, raising a lot of money. an e-mail went out from the clinton campaign manager saying,
hey, double down on your efforts. he could outfund raise us. is he catching up to you? what are you seeing? >> i take him very seriously. as you know, i said this race will be competitive until election day. i think what bothers me about donald trump is that he's playing to fear and hatred. he is trying to divide us. there are people that are frustrated and just want to shake up the status quo, but they don't realize shaking up the status quo, they have to live with it the day after the election. i think that this election will come down to who votes on election day. both sides have got to make sure their voters turn out at the polls. i think it will be a competitive race until the election day. i really do. >> congresswoman, appreciate your perspective on "new day." >> great to see you, chris. who will see their taxes cut and will it work? we will separate fact from fiction next.
the money center with details on trump's new tax plan. vet away. >> hey, chris. the cornerstones of donald trump's new tax plan are lower rates and a simpler tax code so there would be three tax brackets depending on what your income is. that's 12, 25 and 33% and currently there are seven brackets the highest of which is 39.6%. trump initially proposed dropping that top rate to 25%, but nonpartisan groups said it would add trillions of dollars to the national debt. trump didn't give specifics on income levels for those tax brackets, but he does say the poorest americans wouldn't pay any taxes. the plan is similar to the one house speaker paul ryan proposed last month. now businesses would also see a big tax cut. the current top rate is 35%. that's among the highest of any developed nation. trump would cut back down to 15% and as the campaign puts it everyone from freelancers to fortune 500 companies. brianna? >> thank you.
we want to know if donald trump's economic plan mathematically adds up. i want to discuss now with ali belshi and joe berelle. i want to ask you first because i know you take issue with some of the math here when we're looking at the specifics, yes, three tax brackets as you heard alison say. we don't know exactly what the breakdown is in on income level. of course when you have an economic plan, there is money going in and there is money going out and you think this does not add up. >> right. so there are three parts to it when ever you look at an economic plan. this is the part that worries me. look back to the sequester and government shutdown of 2016, this is because the obama administration wanted to raise taxes and increase expenditures. the only way to get that through congress -- get to get the tax
increased through taxes it was cut taxes. so the idea that a congress would permit this particular type of congress would permit tax decreases, the top income tax level in america is 39.6%. to allow taxes to go down to a maximum of 25% and allow for donald trump's increases is preposterous. now, if he doesn't get anything else, he gets his expenditure increases and his tax decreases, we'll have a budgetary hole of $9 trillion extra and donald trump says we'll take care thoof with economic growth because people will pay less taxes, they'll feel great about the economy. companies will employee people. that's trickle down economics which actually hasn't worked over the last 10 or 15 years. to be able to suggest that growth makes up for overspending or under taxing is sort of preposterous and remarkably risky. >> joe, respond to that.
>> i disa agree. i aali's point looks at the economy as a static model in today's in your opinions. nonpartisan groups americans for tax reform and tax foundation also analyzed not donald trump's plan yet but the house republicans plan which this seems to be based on. they say the numbers are $191 billion deficit to which they address with new taxes on. i think the trickle down economics has actually worked. we have a vice presidential candidate mike pence who actually used a lower corporate tax rate, lower income tax rate and saw 150,000 new jobs during his time he was governor in indiana. >> is that what donald trump is trying to do, take the indiana model and fashion it on the nation? or do you see those being sort of two different things? >> yeah. it sort of -- you know, the thing you have to understand is that growth regardless of whether you talk about america
or anywhere else in the world, gdp growth has precious little to do with what a president or an administration actually does. estates very from country. if you're in a small country or a state, you can influence behavior because indiana can bring down taxes and attract businesses and residents from neighboring states. a country it's much harder to do that. look at china, europe and the united states, they are massive countries having trouble to generate growth. i don't think for eight years president obama is saying i like this low growth thing. i'll keep it going. people try to do it but in big countries you can't turn that chip around. nobody controls their economy better than china does and all china's economy has done for the last ten years is slip. economic growth has slipped. the fact is there are global economic head winds that have substantially more to do with
your gdp growth. presidents get too much blame and too much credit for the economy, so the fact that donald trump in his speech very specifically, joe, said i can do this and it's going to be easy shows that he lacks the sophistication to understand the one basic about economics in america it's not easy. >> respond to that but also to "the new york times" which perhaps not surprisingly not on board with donald trump on this saying he considers himself a businessman uniquely capable of improving the economy, but this list is misguided and risky proposals would reduce economic growth while showering the rich with tax breaks. they're taking aim at his plan, but as ali is saying, maybe a plan coming from him isn't really going to do anything any ways. it's this idea -- the idea of saying, oh, it's going to be easy and i can do it is not real. >> then i think we should ask hillary clinton why she is saying the exact same thing. she has a different plan. her plan she stresses she won't raise taxes on people making
under $250,000, but when pressed on those issues she admitted she would indeed some raise some regressive taxes and that's the goal. i take some issues. i think presidents are to blame. the record that obama has given us is something that should be judged and this is why a lot of frustration has happened in america. barack obama was running in 2008. remember, he was also speaking about renegotiating naf and the some of the trade deals and some of the issues that donald trump is talk about but he had the last eight years and hasn't renegotiated nafta. he tried to give us this tpp which is been sort of universally rejected by both campaigns. but he also spoke to the same issues. >> and speak to this idea of some people saying that this plan, joe, does not really help a lot of middle class americans, that this is for the wealthy. >> that's fundamentally false because every single tax bracket whether you make high earner makes to whether you make almost nothing -- >> we don't know because he doesn't have the numbers on
there. how do we know that? he doesn't say if you make this you're in the 10% or if you make this you're in the 25%. >> i think this is fairly reminiscent of the house gop's proposal. >> wu he doesn't have those -- will we get those numbers, do you think? >> i'm sure we will. i'm sure we will. in fairness, let's compare apples to apples. i went on hillary clinton's website and looked for any specificity in her plans. i don't see the level of specificity in hillary clinton's plan that we're demanding from donald trump's as well. you see every tax bracket come down significantly, yes for the rich, yes for the poor then you have things like the child tax care credit. someone like me, my wife is under employed right now because we can't find adequate child care at an affordable price. i'm someone starting out in life. these things are important to me. >> joe, thank you so much. ali, thank you so much. i could talk to both of you for a very long time. we'll leave it there. chris? >> the u.s. women's gymnastic
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will there be more? michael phelps back in the pool. let's look at the standings. the u.s. at the top, 19. gold count very tight, though. obviously china tied. tonight all eyes on the women's gymnastics team final. let's discuss with cnn's sports correspondent and former atlanta falcon coy wire. and cnn sports analyst christine brennan. what are we looking for? what are the stakes? >> you mention gymnastics. this american team qualified ten points ahead of its closest rifle. this is a sport of tenths of points and maybe one point. they're dominant. they're expected to win. it would be a huge upset if the women did not win team gold. then back in the pool, katie
ledecky, michael phelps. it's competitive in both cases. they're going to be close. i have a feeling phelps and ledecky will both do it tonight in the pool. >> christine said if they don't win gold, it's going to be a huge upset. you even have gymnasts from russia saying usa is unbeatable at this point. what are you specifically looking for as we go into this team all around for the women's gymnastics team? >> personally i want to see simone biles. this girl is 48'8". the thing that makes her so dynamic is not just her raw athleticism. it's her mentality. that's the one person.
i also want to see lauri hernandez. they call her the human emoji. she's full of life and energy. >> so how do they rate to that amazing team from the london olympics that the u.s. had? >> the fierce five. >> how do they compare? >> we're both nodding our heads. they compare favorably, chris. i think this is the best team ever. i think with simone biles leading the way, aly raisman, gabby douglas, you've got the reigning olympic all around champ from four years ago back. this team is stacked. it is packed to the rafters with talent. they've got to win the gold. >> coy, we don't know what their name is yet.
aren't we going to find out? what do you think it should be? >> will it be fiercer five? we'll see. one thing that was a highlight from last night, did you guys see ryan murphy? olympic swimmer, 100 meter backstroke. he fulfills a prophecy from the age of 8 years old. he goes out, gets the gold for team usa, sets the olympic record. here's what he said, he wrote a letter to his mom with a photo drawing of himself. he said i hope my swimming life continues and i become an olympian when i grow up. i want to be the best swimmer in the world. here we are 13 years later and ryan murphy wakes up one of the best swimmers in the world. >> the postcard says "the end." >> i am nervous about the girls
team tonight. so much expectation. expected to win. i don't like when you go into it and everyone expects you to do well. christine, did you see the michael phelps staredown face? do you think he was mad dogging the guy or just trying to stay focused? >> no, no. he's just trying to stay focused. if there were 10,000 people in the arena or just by himself -- >> coy screwed up his face and looked at me, tried to intimidate me off the point. but i didn't bend. >> i think we're seeing raw emotion. >> your hair looks fantastic today, coy. >> you don't have any hair. >> christine was saying how i look like i'm in one of those
beyonce videos, hair blowing in the breeze. >> who shaved your head, brother? >> i basically -- every bald reporter's dream, i got it yesterday. i got my head shaved by tony. the best part is i had a catsup packet in my hand. he's coming out for me. this guy is fascinating. he grew up here in rio. five-time olympian. speaks three languages including por portuguese. >> thank you so much. i'll be giving chris a haircut later after the show.
>> i just got one. my birthday cut. >> happy birthday, by the way. in just minutes, we will be talking with the most decorated women's gymnast in u.s. history, shannon miller. 50 former gop national security officials signing a letter to stop their party's nominee. >> she is the candidate of the past. ours is the campaign of the future. >> trump's policies would throw us into a recession. >> new presidential challenger. evan mcmullan. >> tragedy at a kansas water park. something went wrong. >> how did a young boy die on this world famous water slide? >> team usa on fire. >> lily king striking dpoele ii. setting a new olympic record, ryan murphy.
>> day four in rio. the u.s. women's gymnastics team going for back to back gold. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to your new day. it's tuesday, august 9th. we're talking about donald trump's campaign. it was supposed to be in reset mode, giving this big economic speech in detroit. but then this letter comes out from 50 national security heavyweights from his own party pap th . they say donald trump would be the most reckless president in u.s. history. >> it's a move that is coming as donald trump and hillary clinton are battling it out on the economy this morning. another blow for donald trump as a key republican senator says she is not going to back her party's nominee. our coverage this hour starting with cnn's jason carroll. >> you know donald trump says that that open letter is
politically motivated. in that letter national security experts say that trump lacks basic knowledge about u.s. laws and the constitution and that he will weaken the country's moral authority. trump says he does have the knowledge and temperament to be president, but a number of people within his own party simply do not believe it. another prominent republican coming out this morning against donald trump. maine senator susan collins penning an op ed in the "washington post" explaining why she cannot vote for her party's nominee. "i've become increasingly dismayed by his constant stream of cruel comments and his inability to admit error or apologize." the expert who is sers who serv republican administrations from
nixon to bush labeling trump as dangerous, reckless, and lacks the character, experience and values to be president. >> our system has produced a candidate who is fundamentally unfit for office. >> trump firing back at those who signed the letter, calling them part of the failed washington elite who made the world such a dangerous place. >> i want to jump start america. and it can be done. and it won't even be that hard. >> the gop nominee unveiling a new economic plan monday, hoping to reset his campaign after hitting a rough patch since the convention. >> she is the candidate of the past. ours is the campaign of the future. >> trump is revising his tax plan now, calling for three tax brackets with the highest rate being 33% for individuals and capping the corporate tax rate at 15%. and in an evideffort to appeal working class voters he hopes to make child care expenses
deductible. >> at the center of my plan is trade enforcement the china. >> trump called for renegotiating trade deals. >> a vote for hillary clinton is a vote for tpp. >> wrongly claiming that hillary clinton supports it. >> he wants to basically just repackage trickle down economics. >> clinton slamming trump's plan, saying there is little in there for the middle class. >> economists left, right, in the middle all say the same thing, that trump's policies would throw us into a recession, the last thing we need. >> and for his economic speech, trump stayed on message despite being interrupted by protest er more than a dozen times. ivanka trump told the detroit free press trump's critics are
scared of a trump presidency. he is level headed and now is not the time to tell him to alter his approach after he's had so much success. >> i want to discuss more now with kelly anne conway. we are seeing a lot of economists this morning saying there are no real clear benefits for the middle class. specifically what do you see as the boefenefits for the middle class? >> there are many benefits. number one, the fully deductible child care tax credit. that really follows ivanka trump's speech to make child care affordable for all. if you look at going from seven brackets to three and you look at what those brackets are in this energetic tax plan that he
unveiled yesterday in detroit you see that people will be paying less at the margins. >> are those middle classingi l? we don't have the income level. that's confusing. it doesn't say for those making this much you will be paying 25%. there are a lot of gaps. >> there are 7 million more people in poverty now since president obama took office. we have over 21 million people in poverty. those numbers are so devastating. the solutions are to lower the tax rate that's called the corporate tax rate but basically you're lowering the rate on job creators, on people who can put other people to work. they can start their small businesses, allow them to expand and grow. as hillary clinton follows
donald trump on thursday in detroit to layout her own plan, if what she has in there is so great, why has she been holding out on us for seven and a half years? she will talk about the lack of growth. she will talk about the number of people out of work. that is an implicit indictment of the obama economic record that she wishes to continue. >> i want to ask you about some of the criticism that donald trump has been getting and to see what you think about it happening now because of the timing. we're hearing from 50 national security -- a lot of these are top aides to former president bush and they're really taking aim at donald trump. in this open letter it says he is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood. he does not encourage conflicting views. he lacks self-control and acts impetuously. he has alarmed our closest all
allies with his erratic behavior. >> i wish they would step back and say we presume he would be dangerous but we know that hillary clinton already is. she agrees with the iran nuclear deal. she presided over benghazi. we already know how she would perform as commander in chief. there's great disappointment to see that these people are making these conclusions based on what they see and not having met with him. there are people who tried to become part of the campaign and are not part of the campaign. i believe it's also disappointment for another reason. if you feel like you can help,
if you feel like you've got good ideas and can help, where were you? why were you outside writing such a scathing letter if you really care about security? >> donald trump took aim at a number of these folks saying, okay, you're the architects of iraq, of the invasion and the attempt at reconstruction afterwards. which if you fact check that, he is correct when it comes to a number of folks on this letter. but he also took aim at them. you mentioned hillary clinton, isis, benghazi. he took aim at them on that. i'd say all of them really had nothing to do with that. is he proving their point by turning around and saying you're responsible for this and that, things they were not involved in? >> it's difficult for me to accept that over generalization of who was responsible. i think what he's saying is this is a binary choice. you're have hillary clinton as your commander in chief or me. we already know how she would
perform. the other point i think he's making is that for these folks who are going to have an easier time when they go back to their ivy league college reunions and saying i'm against donald trump. they already have been in positions of power when things didn't go so great. 81% of americans say they feel less safe now than previous. most of that has happened over the last eight years but it certainly didn't start them. there's little to no coverage of who endorsed trump. both of bush's former vice presidents dick cheney and dan quayle have endorsed donald trump. even with congresswoman dingle earlier asking what is hillary clinton's greatest
accomplishment. you get the deer in the headlights look. she never stops quitting. never stops quitting what? >> you say a lot of people not behind trump are getting attention. susan colins is perhaps the most moderate among republican senators. she said with the passage of time i have been increasingly displayed by his constant stream of cruel comments and his inability to admit error or apologiz apologize. she talks about his attacks directed at people who could not respond on an equal footing, she said that reveals that trump is unworthy to be our president. let me ask you about the timing. you have this letter, you have susan collins, you have a lot of opposition. is this in your view a concerted effort to try to take donald trump down at this point in
time, not too long after the convention and not too far off from the election? >> it certainly appears that way. it would be nice if he got the basic mitt romney john mccain treatment when they were nominees. a couple of days ago donald trump endorsed john mccain, kelly ayotte and he endorsed paul ryan who will win his primary today. and i assume as speaker of the house would be working with a president trump very well. so where's the gratitude and frankly the exchange there? when donald trump and mike pence are endorsing people like senator mccain and senator ayotte, the hope and expectation is they would also get the endorsements and support of members of their own party. here it is again where donald trump is putting himself out there and generously endorsing publicly in green bay, wisconsin, two sitting senators.
and then to have a republican senator come back and write an entire op ed in an anti-trump newspaper -- it's healthy for families to have disagreements. i would prefer them to not spill over in public. it took a long time for president obama and elizabeth warren and bernie sanders to endorse hillary clinton. it basically happened last month. >> i want to comment on polls. we saw a poll yesterday where there was a ten-point spread, our poll between donald trump and hillary clinton today. a monmouth university poll showing that hillary clinton is 13 points up on donald trump and she's at 50%. he's at 37%. he's been struggling to break that as a ceiling. >> it's easy to cherry pick different polls. the reuters poll over the weekend showed a three-point race. that's an online poll where people feel comfortable to admit
they're voting for donald trump. the fact is that what mr. trump lost over the last week or so were many republican voters. they will come back to him. they're basically signaling that they want to see substance and specific policy solutions like they did in his dynamic speech in detroit. next week you're going to hear more on a different topic, a week after that a different topic. those folks are not going to hillary clinton. i also would point out in all of these polls that he's still doing very well with independents and very well with men. the real gender gap this cycle that gets no attention is hillary clinton's chronic problem with male voters. they distrust her, they dislike her. they don't seem to want her to be commander in chief. >> thank you so much. really appreciate it. we've got a new contender in the 2016 race, an independent conservative named evan
he's a former congressional aide and a cia operative. he's running as an independent conservative. welcome to the jungle. >> thank you very much. >> first, let's start with the possibilities and then the probabilities. possible to get on the ballot in all 50 states that the point in the election? how? >> absolutely it is. a lot of people misunderstand the process. there are a multitude of ways to get on ballots in the united states. we're pursuing all of them. i've got a great team that's spent months studying this and preparing. we will be on a broad number of ballots across the country. we hope to be on all 50, in fact. >> what is your goal? are you a salvo from the right against donald trump? >> absolutely not. we are in this to win this. we are going to fight and scrap and claw all the way to tend. >> but you could help hillary
clinton just by your mere existence. this has been a big part of the ambivalence within your party, within the gop. what do we do to make our point about trump without helping hillary clinton? how do you balance that? >> look, i would say this. donald trump is already losing to hillary clinton. i just entered this race yesterday. he's already doing very badly. trump is weak. trump is a weak candidate. and he is losing badly against one of the most unfit democratic candidates to appear before the american people in quite some time. so donald trump is responsible for hillary's success. i believe that donald trump is ensuring that hillary clinton take the white house. what i'm doing is i'm trying to offer the american people something they can vote for as opposed to voting against. everybody now seems to be looking for something else, looking for another option. and that's what we hope to
offer, an option of new leadership, leadership that unites the country, leadership that has a history of putting the country before personal interests, which i don't think either of the two major party candidates do. >> so, tell us about evan mcmullin. who are you? >> as you pointed out in the int intro, i'm a former central intelligence officer. i was worked in the private sector as well and led policy initiatives for the house republicans over the last couple of years. >> family situation? we know you're from utah. that becomes relevant also, you being in the race. could that wind up affecting those eight delegates they have coming out of utah? >> i was born in utah. i was racised in an area outsid of seattle, washington.
>> you're more mman? >> i am. there are people who are highly dissatisfied with the options they have. that's an american thing. you look at the negatives for both of these can'didates. >> never seen anything like it. >> that's right. >> you say you want to give people something to vote for. >> that's right. >> what are you offering? >> i'll say this, it used to be that our leaders weren't career politicians. it used to be that they served from time to time and otherwise they returned to their own work outside of government. i'm a big believer in that. no, i haven't served in elected office before. but that's because i've been busy doing things that have given me the knowledge and the skill set to answer some of the country's biggest challenges from day one. so that's why i'm running. i had hoped that someone else with national name id would step forward months and months ago. when that didn't happen and
realizing that i had the knowledge and skill set to do just that, to help us face some major challenges we face, i had to get off the sidelines and enter the race. >> do you believe you could be president of the united states? >> i believe i could be. the team will fight for that. we're going to rally the support of millions of americans who are deeply dissatisfied with the government. they believe they're not being heard by this government. they look at hillary clinton and they see somebody who believes she's unaccountable to the american people. they look at donald trump and they see someone who wants to divide us and weaken us in order to empower himself. this is not american leadership, period. >> what do you say to those people who are angry, who don't like the status quo, who believe anybody who comes out of that system is going to be part of that system? >> i say come join us. go to evan mcmullin.com, see
where you can help out, see where you can get involved. be a part of this. we think this will be a national movement. if yesterday's response to what we're doing is any indication, it will be. people are being rallied around the country to support us. we're gaining fast, powerful traction. >> what's your idea, though? what's the message of your campaign? >> the message of my campaign is one of unification of the american people. there's too much partisan bickering and division in our country that i think both of these candidates seek to exploit for their own purposes. as a former cia operative i can tell you -- it is a fact. if we had more time i could tell you why this is the case. when america is divided, america is weaker from a national security perspective and from a prosperity perspective. we need to unify as a country and that's what i'm about. >> what do you think is the single biggest thing you would achieve as president of the united states?
>> there are a few things. we need to defeat isis and islamist terrorism. we have to do that. i know how to do that. it's not a mystery. >> as a cia operative you know when people say defeat isis, it's an out growth of an ideology that's growth from an a desperation that you have to address. how do you do that? >> that's such a true observation, chris, and something that many people don't understand. we do need to take the fight to them on the battlefield, but we also have to combat the ideology. in the cold war for example we were much more effective at combatting the idea of communism. we're terrible at that with regard to islamist extremism and terrorism. this ultimately is a battle of ideas. we've got to be better at that. >> evan mcmullin, you're late into the game. but "new day" is a forum for the
voters. you are welcome back on this show to talk about what matters to the voters. good luck. >> thank you. >> certainly the country needs options that are good for them. appreciate you being here. there are new details surfacing this morning in the death of a 10-year-old boy on a water slide in kansas. is the state in part to blame? we dig deeper, next. ll be binge-studying. get back to great. this week sharpie singles now twenty-five cents. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. i'm a fine arts major. being able to pull up different articles to different parts of the screen is so convenient. i draw my notes in class. the pen makes it so much easier. i used to be a mac user. but this is way better.
we have new details this morning about how 10-year-old caleb schwab was killed at a theme park in kansas city on sunday. police say caleb died from a fatal neck injury while riding the water slide which is the tallest in the world. the state had not inspected this water slide since it opened in 2014. i want to bring in the president of the national safety council and former ntsb chairman. you know about this. obviously you may not be surprised to learn that this security or this observation of
the safety of this slide happened really infrequently. the last time was a couple of years ago. but i think a lot of people are. tell us what is going on here and what is the state of regulation of slides like this? >> i think there's still a lot of information. it's early in the investigation. what we do know about water parks is there is very little federal over sight and regulations. they're not required to report their injuries. much of this is handled at the state and local level. there can be a patch work system across the united states with respect to over sight. >> do you think this could have been an oversight problem? >> i think it's still very early to understand what happened in this specific event. but i think there is absolutely the opportunity with an event like this for everyone to take a
step back and say what's going on, what do we need to do better, how do we make sure that everyone coming to water parks are safe when they arrive at that water park they're hoping for a fun day but they're certainly expecting a safe ride. >> caleb schwab and so many of the people who have gone on this water slide were looking for a thrill. it's 168 feet. that if you compare it to niagara falls is even taller by a foot. the statue of liberty at 111.5 feet. in the middle of the slide is where we understand that this accident happened. we know that he had a neck injury. does this tell you anything about what may have happened? >> no, it really doesn't give us any information at this point. we need to understand where the
people were seated in the vehicle. i think there's just a lot of work the investigators need to do. they need to identify whether or not the slide was working properly at the time. the whole thing, the mechanics, the design, whether it performed as designed. there's a lot to understand here and i think it's really important for anyone when they go to a water park to make sure they look out for their own safety. if they see something, they should say something. if something doesn't look right, if something gives you concern, really speak up. don't take a ride if you're not comfortable and don't force anyone to take a ride if they don't want to take one. >> when you look at the height of this, do you think some of these rides are getting too extreme? >> i think there's always going to be a interest in whatever we do to try to do something taller or faster or higher. and so some of these rides are
extreme. people are doing things out in nature that's extreme. what we need to do when we have paying customers come into a park, they're expected to have a safe ride. we need to make sure that all of the work on the design, maintenance and oversight and inspection is done so there is a safe ride for everyone. and make sure if there are minimum requirements, whether they're height, weight or age, that those are observed every time as well. >> that's the point here because we understand that two to three riders need to be strapped into this raft and all together it needs to weigh 400 to 500 pounds. there's a weight requirement, a height requirement of 54 inches tall. we don't know if caleb met that requirement. under kansas law, obviously this is something that is supposed to be adhered to. how good do you think these parks are and just the individuals who are operating these rides are at making sure these requirements are met?
>> so there are different issues here. there are probably very few laws that apply to water parks. most of it's going to be internal oversight and regulation at the park. they're going to set those standards based on the design features of the ride. it's also up to the park to have compliance with those certainly. i've been to amusement parks where they have a yardstick and they measure my kids. but as consumers we want to make sure that we understand that those limitations are there for a reason. and you really don't want to try to skate under the rules. you really want to comply with those rules. whether you're taking a helicopter ride and they need to do weight and balance, you need to be honest about your weight when you're taking rides because there's a safety factor that's built in. height, weight, medical restrictions and age restrictions too, it's important
to disclose those. >> the kansas law has to do about the inspections of these so-called permanent rides like this one should be inspected once a year. we'll be seeing if that changes certainly in kansas and other places. thank you so much for sharing your expertise. chris? another big name accuser coming forward saying roger ailes sexually harassed her at fox news. new allegations about how the former fox news chief used company money to target his enemie enemies. we'll discuss it next. as our bu, and you're on the road all day long, it's exhausting. holiday inn has been a part of the team. you're on the fourth floor. it makes life on the road much easier. book your next journey at holidayinn.com when this busy family... ...got a cracked windshield... ...their dad went to the new safelite-dot-com... ...and scheduled a replacement... ...in just a few clicks. with safelite you don't have to miss a thing. y'all did wonderful!
hillary clinton challenging donald trump by accepting all three presidential debates, calling him up, saying, come on, donald. let's get it on. let's discuss this and other big breaking situations. we've got brian stelter and cnn media analyst bill carter talking about the developments at fox news. the mud getting thicker and
thicker there. conventional wisdom would have said trump is going to want these debates. and boy will this be a test of how he deals with someone as seasoned as clinton, a won -- a woman in clinton. >> trump is objecting to some of the debate dates. last night the clinton campaign came out and said we accept, we're going to be there. it's up to you donald trump. are you going to show up? they haven't even been invited yet. the clinton campaign wants to make this a winning issue. wants to challenge donald trump. maybe he'll take the bait. we'll see. >> how much is at stake here? >> a lot. he's losing. usually the loser wants the debate and the winner is saying, i don't need the debate. i think trump's position was i'm going to get her to switch the dates, i'll look more powerful.
she's saying these are the dates, i'm going. she shifted the power. >> how about the be careful what you wish for? what do you see as the plus/minus of these two on the stage together? >> donald trump knows television better than anybody alive, even better than hillary clinton. if anyone can turn the campaign around with a debate moment, it would be him. >> he didn't want to debate one on one with the republicans. he used a lot of verbiage and aggression in his debates, not a lot of facts. she's strong on that. >> dangerous. do you remember the rick lazio moment with hillary clinton? he had her on the ropes on a particular issue. and he walks across the stage and hands her these papers. it was abrupt and off putting. boy, did his numbers tank after that. it was seen that hoe had intimidated a woman on stage.
>> yeah. that's all donald can do is attack her. the optics of that could be really risky. >> or even president obama when he said you're likable enough, hillary. that was something that was really seen as kind of poking her in the eye. >> there's a lot of people in the industry that have doubts about whether trump is going to show up. >> he has to. >> you want to temper that a little bit. the battleground states are tight, ohio, pennsylvania, florida. could be a little deceptive when we see this big gap opening up nationally. i think this race is going to be a little closer than they think right now. >> i want to talk about what we've seen going on at fox news. obviously roger ailes stepping aside, many allegations of harassment. and then some new information we're getting about how he wielded his power and also the money of the organization. what do you make of this? >> we're seeing drip, drip, drip. the murdochs had this phone
hacking scandal in britain ten years ago. now we're seeing that in the united states with fox news. ailes has denied these allegations but they are piling up. even yesterday a new accuser coming forward who was a host of a show on fox until a few months ago. she says she was sexually harassed. we've heard from more than a dozen women at this point. >> that's the other thing, that he's tapping his own employees. they were afraid they were all being wiretapped and if they ever said anything about the company they would be attacked in the pr ar mmata that he had go after people. >> at this point we've seen no proof. harassment is a difficult thing to cover because legally, as a lawyer, my mind goes at this one way. i better see some proof because these allegations are crushing this guy's reputation. then in the media it's seen are you blaming the victims.
the money stuff, this espionage or whatever you want to call it, that's easier for us to cover. that's either there or it isn't. is there any proof? >> he wrote a book about roger ailes a number of years ago. a lot of what he's reporting i think reporters have suspected for a while. about ten years ago i had a crush on a woman at fox news. she was a low level staffer. i was in college at the time. i was going out on what i thought were dates. these were not dates. she was reporting back to fox news about me about what i thought of her and cnn and msnbc and fox. because i was a reporteder rep beat, they were spying on me. now we know they were actually sending out private investigators. they were tailing other reporters. >> you'd get a call from them saying you better be right on this story or the implication was we'll dig into your past, your private life. >> we sort of knew but now we
know much much more. these reports saying that ailes was using fox news money for his own private spending. >> there's a lot of questions -- >> that's really the fallout. what happens? >> i think the question then becomes who else knew it and what did the murdochs do about it? are they going to remove wholesale people there, the top lawyer, the second in command? are they all going to be on the carpet because of this? when you mentioned proof, talking about some of these women have tapes supposedly of conversations with ailes. if that ever came out -- >> it's tricky. >> it is. >> obviously we always want to get everything right but this is tricky because unlike an assault situation, this is going to be something where, well, this dynamic has to be suggestive of certain principles at play. there has to be this environment. there has to be this dialogue between them that is openly
harassing and not just conveniently so at a certain point. then you wind up over weighting all of these allegations and threatening a man's reputation. >> i know the murdochs did make a decision rather quickly to force him out and they know more than we know. >> you said some of your reporting early on was they wanted him out and maybe this gave them a reason to push him. >> that's the other piece of this. >> you always want to defer to victims but we've got to get this right because there's a lot in play. >> at this point they've actually stopped replying. they say they deny the allegations but they're not going after this as forcefully as they could and they may reveal something as well. >> there are settlement talks in the works. >> there's much more to this story. thank you to both of you. ahead the u.s. women's gymnastics team are going for gold in rio. such a big day there. we'll have a preview. we're going to talk as well with legendary gymnast shannon miller, next. i'm anne howard and i'm michael howard.
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i want to talk you just about -- i think especially when it comes to gymnastics we look at so much pressure on the shoulders of young women who are 16, 17, 18, 19. tell us what it's like being there in rio and what your expectation is for today? >> well, it couldn't be more beautiful here in rio. everyone's having a great time. i think the theme of this olympics is one big party. gymnastics has been rocking and rolling. the women coming out, blowing the competition away by ten points which is unheard of in the sport. i think tonight is just going to be a special night not only for everyone to see what amazing gymnastics looks like for the u.s. team but really across the world. we have some great international athletes that will be competing as well. i don't think we have much anxiety about whether or not the u.s. women's team is going to take home gold, but there's still great gymnastics to be
seen. >> we heard from the top russian gymnast who said the u.s. is really unbeatable. they're really competing for second place at this point. >> yeah. i think as a gymnast you appreciate over great jim nasicenasi gymnastics. we've got russia, china, great britain and even brazil vying for a position on that second or third spot on the podium. and if brazil makes it onto the podium, this place is going to go crazy. >> i want to talk to you about some of that pressure and show some of the pictures of you in 1996. these are images that everyone will remember. you won gold on the balance beam, an amazing routine that you did. i mean, it looked just perfect. i went back and watched it again today. but you go into a games like this even in this case where this team is favored and you have the weight of the world on you.
you're on magazine covers. everyone says you are the one who's going to win. what is that like? i can't even imagine. >> you know, i think when you kind of grow up with it, you grow up competing, it is something you're used to. you're used to the pressure. because mostly there's no one that can put more pressure on you than you put on yourself. for these athletes it's not just about winning a medal. it's about going out and representing their country on the world stage. it's what they've been praying for. regardless, they're likely going to win a gold medal. but regardless they want to go out and show the world what they can do. >> tell us about simone biles. you come at this with a unique perspective not just when it comes to prowess in gymnastics but just the mental game that goes along with it. there's so much hype around her, but what we hear is it's not hype it's the real deal. >> it's the real deal,
absolutely. this is not hype. it is amazing what she is able to do. i think a lot of us in the know that have done this for so many years, we look at her and we just kind of say, how? how does she do that? it's incredible the difficulty she has but also the consistency that she has. what draws you to simone biles is that infectious smile, her personality. i love that she's able to go out and do gymnastics and keep it fun. that shines through in her performance>> that is . >> what is it, though, about her? >> a lot of those skills that you see, there's one on floor that's names after her, but she's attempting skills that we've only seen the men compete oftentimes and she's doing them with ease. i was talking with some friends of mine who are also in the olympics previously last night. and she just goes and does this
floor routine like it's a walk in the park while we're dying at the end, gasping for breath. and she's like, oh okay, what's next? let's go. >> this is obviously a big time today for your sport and also for the country. thanks for joining us, shannon miller. >> thank you. "newsroom" is picking up after this quick break. xrcç&éíu> she spent summer binge-watching.
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happening now on the "newsroom," donald trump tries to reboot. >> i want to jump start america. it won't even be that hard. >> while more republicans revolt. but if they're not with him -- >> don't let a friend vote donald trump. >> -- will they be with her? let's talk live in the cnn "newsroom." and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. donald trump losing ground and desperately trying to find traction with a change of message. but even as the billionaire pitpit pivots he faced another avalanche of defections. dozens say he is potentially too dangerous to earn their vote. cnn's