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accusing judicial watch of mischaracterizing the documents. back to you, wolf. >> joe johns reporting for us. thanks very much. that's it for me. >> erin burnett "out front" starts right now. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front, the breaking news. a dramatic scene, a man scaling trump tower threatening to go all of the wi to the top of the skyscraper. moments ago, police grabbing him and pulling him into the building, ending the standoff and let's just watch this amazing video. this is as they're reaching outside the window that they've broken up. he's trying to pass by. he's grabbing on and trying not to come in. as they forcefully pull him into the building and still fighting with him there. this man had been climbing for three hours, nearly three hours up the glass facade from the fifth floor all of the way north
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toft 20th floor and police had been talking into trying to giving up and he had no intention of doing any such thing and they dragged him through a window on the 21st floor. the stunt mesmerized new yorkers and people around the world were watching this and on fifth avenue below, a standstill, thousands watching and traffic completely tied up throughout the stunt and we are covering the story from every angle including the all-important motive of this bizarre scene. brynn gingras continues our coverage in new york. brynn? >> reporter: what you couldn't hear from the video was the gasp that was let out from the crowd here on the ground near fifth avenue in manhattan. everybody just waiting to see if this man would get safely into that window when police pulled him in. let's zoom all of the way in there, that is the 21st floor when police were able to get him to safety after attempting to get him at the 16th floor.
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the man with several large suction cups scaling the side of the building, as you said, erin, for nearly three hours today. at times he was removing things from a backpack, throwing them down to the crowd. again, the crowd gasping in all of those moments and we do know he told police in discussion with the emergency unit service officers that his name was peter. he also referenced a youtube video that police are looking into, titled a message for mr. trump. these are a number of things that police are looking into and also currently waiting for a news conference by police. what i am told by sources right now is they are deciding if they're going to bring that man to the hospital right now or place him under arrest and these are all things that we're waiting to hear and questions that need to be answered and they need to be answered. >> you just referenced a video that we're confirming if it is indeed him, but it is a very bizarre video and he says he's a
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trump supporter, but it comes off as a very bizarre, possibly ill person who, in a sense it sounds like a threat to donald trump. >> and that was the real scare here, erin and those are the questions that they're trying to find out right now is what exactly was his motive and how did he even get up this building to begin with? this is a presidential candidate, secret service involved and how did a man able to start climbing up this building. >> these are a lot of questions we will be asking when police talk us to very soon among many questions. >> thank you very much. we'll be going back to brynn. i want to go back to shimon prokupecz. shimon, you have been talking to police. what are officials telling you about who this man is? >> we know, but we're not reporting it right now. all we know is police have initially told us his name is
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steve and they believe he's from virginia and they're basically now trying to learn more about him. we haven't been told what more they know about him, sort of their whole process and sort of their focus was getting him in and now the investigation begins and who he is and what his motives are and could there have been something much worse? was he up to something else here? they don't think that, but certainly they'll look at that, but we do know his name is steve and we don't know how old he is and we know he made this youtube video. they know a lot about him right now. >> shimon, i'm sorry to interrupt you. we have this video now, and i want to play a clip of it so viewers can see this person and what he said before he did this and then give you a chance to talk about some of the reporting on it. let me play it. >> for mr. trump to excuse my manner of appearance. i just don't know how many people will watch this. i'd rather not be recognizable.
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i'm an independent researcher seeking a private audience with you to discuss an important matter. i guarantee that it is in your interest to honor this request. believe me, if my purpose was not significant i would not risk my life pursuing it. the reason i climbed your tower was to get your attention. if i had sought this via conventional means i would be much less likely to have success because you are a busy man with many responsibilities. i'll get my contact information to your campaign. >> shimon, as you hear him speaking. this is a pretty threatening and sinister thing. i just got off the phone with a source and i think right now they may take him to the hospital for some kind of psychological exam. i mean, we don't know what he was up to, and it certainly does sound it, but this guy clearly knew what he was doing, right? he had some planning and who knows if he's done this before,
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but no, it certainly sounds sinister the way he's speaking and he looks kind of with what he's wearing it looks threatening. so definitely they'll take a hard look at this and try to make sure he wasn't up to something else. >> shimon, please stay with me. i want to bring into the conversation now jerry iorio who is outside trump tower as this was happening and michael cohen, executive vice president of the trump organization also joins me and grayson schaefer with "outside" magazine is joining me, as well. let me start with you. you work right there, what can you tell us? what did you see happening? >> i just saw a man, when i spun around my desk climbing the side of the building and clearly wasn't a window washer, but at first, it wasn't too alarming until you realized that people were starting to get worried about the guy scaling the side of the building and i realized the cops were showing up and then it became a situation where it became clear he wasn't supposed to be there and there
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was a lot of activity and that's when the action started to bring him in. >> could you see anything about what he was doing whether the look on his face or what he was carrying or anything, jerry, from where you were? >> he had a backpack, and he had like a water bottle hanging from it, and then what i saw was he took out what looked like a mackbook pro. he threw that to the ground and he took out a spiral note pad and flipped through two or three pages and put it against the glass to have whoever was on the other side and dropped that on the ground and showed the police his backpack and made sure there was nothing else in there and he was moving left to get away from where they were trying to grab him and continued scaling. >> shimon, from what you were talking to with your sources, does it match that he had a spiral notebook that he held so someone could read it inside or
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what he did with his computer? >> i don't know that they've had an opportunity yet to sort of look at that stuff and review some of the stuff. last i checked they had not been able to sort of look inside his bag yet and i don't know if they'll wait for a search warrant and there are all these other things they need to do before they start searching someone's stuff, i guess. i don't yet know anything about this notebook or what was on the computer. so i think as the nice goes nig goes on we'll learn more about that, so that i don't know. i think the point now is they're really trying to learn more about him, and i think the other thing, erin, is they need to figure out how this happened. this should not have happened and that building is pretty secure. they do need to balance this whole idea where people can freely enter that building because it does have retail stores and coffee shops and a restaurant, but this should not have happened, and i think that's going to be their big concern now is how the hell did
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this happen? >> that is the question, michael cohen, you must have is how the hell did this happen? >> the guy came with the building with which to scale the side and came in with the paraphernalia necessary. i don't know if he started on the fifth floor. >> the report is he started on the fifth floor. at the end of the day it's a very large patio area and clearly went to the corner and before anybody was able to approach him he was already high enough that he was unreachable. the police were there virtually most of the day and i do want to say thank you to new york's finest for doing a great job making sure this guy didn't get hurt. there's definitely something mentally wrong with him. >> you saw that clip. do you feel that this was a threat to donald trump? >> you know, i don't know. i'm not law enforcement, but if i had to just go on my gut i would say no. i just think he's a disturbed young man who was seeking
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attention. what information he wanted to give to mr. trump he clearly could have sent by u.s. postage or he could have made a phone call to the office and left a message. he didn't need to pull this dangerous and ridiculous stunt and caused a tremendous amount of traffic between 56 and 57th streets. >> it really shut down a good part of new york city. >> during rush hour. >> so, jerry, when you talk about that piece of paper from the spiral notebook that he held up for someone to read and when you talk about the macbook, were you -- did anyone tell you about what it might have said or any sort of interaction he had with anyone on the inside of the building at that time? >> no. i just was looking from across the way and just saw him do that action and it was scary enough because he had no safety harness, but at any point he fell that was what we were really concerned about. >> grayson, let me ask you this question and jerry said he had no safety harness and the question is how did he do this?
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how did he do this, do you think? it seemed he had a standard climbing harness on and had four of these industrial strength suction cups you can order on the internet and he was using a type of climbing known to big wall climbers, and he had three points of contact at any one contact and with his climbing arm. >> he knew what he was doing. and he wasn't going to tire out and drop off the wall and at any point if he was tired he could hang on his harness and as this altercation ended as the police were able to reach out the window and clip a carabinner and it looks like it was done with a fair amount of safety. >> former fbi hostage negotiator. he had indicated when they were negotiating with him he had no interest in stopping his climb and he was going to go all of the way to the top and as you saw they had to forcibly bring
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him inside by blowing out a window and bringing him in through the 21st floor. what do you think the motive could have been in here. all you hear about right now is the computer and the spiral notebook with the message for someone inside and that very bizarre video where he said he had a message for mr. trump. >> yeah, you start looking at action is a form of communication and his intensity on getting mr. trump's attention here is what is actually disturbing and the lengths that he's willing to go to get that attention and this is a tremendous focus, tremendous amount of planning and tremendously unusual for some secretive method. the guy is unfortunately, and a little bit disturbing with the intensity and focus that he has on mr. trump and the point he's trying to make here by scaling this particular building. so this guy probably would prove to be a danger if he isn't dealt
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with. >> all right. well, thank you all very much for being with me. donald trump actually is about to take the stage right now, speak live at a rally in this hour. is hei is he going to talk about this incident that happened today at trump tower? and of course, will he talk about the second amendment comments that he made last night about hillary clinton? and newly released e-mails between state department staff. what do they say? these are pretty shocking. plus more on the breaking news of what we're learning about the man who scaled trump tower and why he did it and that fast-moving story right now as he has been apprehended in custody at this moment. what muscle pain? what headache? what arthritis pain? advil makes pain a distant memory nothing works faster stronger or longer
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moment. trump and clinton locked in a virtual dead heat in florida. we are watching to see whether trump will address his controversial comments that second amendment people might be able to stop hillary clinton. clinton firing back at those comments tonight. >> words matter, my friends, and if you are running to be president or you are president of the united states, words can have tremendous consequences. yesterday we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that cross the line. >> jim acosta is "out front" tonight at that trump rally in south florida. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: offering no apologies for his super-heated rhetoric, donald trump tried to make the case that it's hillary clinton who can't get the words right. >> she said it was a mistake, that she's going to raise taxes of the middle class. you saw that one?
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maybe she misspoke. we have to give them a break. >> one day after the gop nominee said second amendment activists could do something if hillary clinton was elected. he you pushed back on any notion that he was inciting violence with this jaw-dropping comment. >> by the way, and if she gets to pick -- if she gets to pick her judges nothing you can do, folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is. i don't know. >> reporter: trump and his backers are scrambling to contain the fallout. trump insists he was merely touting the power of second amendment supporters. there could be no other interpretation and even reporters have told me. give me a break. >> house speaker paul ryan thought he was kidding, but it was no laughing matter. >> it sounds like a joke gone bad. i hope he clears it up very quickly. you should never joke about that. >> blood coming out of her whatever. >> it will soon find its way into another clinton campaign ad using the gop contender's word
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against him and clinton was looking to take advantage of the remark during a campaign stop in iowa. >> yesterday we witnessed the latest in a long line of casual comments from donald trump that cross the line. >> his casual cruelty to a gold-star family, his casual suggestion that more countries should have nuclear weapons and now his casual inciting of violence. >> reporter: of course, donald trump would like to talk about the ethical questions facing hillary clinton. just a few moments ago they were playing a video on the jumbotron focusing on just that, but erin, even donald trump's own supporters acknowledge that has not been easy to do these last couple of days and just yesterday, one of donald trump's own surrogates texted me a picture of a pain reliever for migraine relief. >> jim sciutto is out front in
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washington. jim, you have been talking to your sources in the secret service and there is real concern about donald trump's comments? >> that's right. an official with the secret service that they've had conversations with trump campaign staff regarding donald trump's comments yesterday regarding the second amendment. i am told there has been more than one such conversation on that topic. a secret service official tells me that the trump campaign's response was that the candidate did not intend in any way to incite violence. i should add that since then donald trump tweeted his response saying that no such conversations took place and i can only go back to my source in the u.s. secret service that there were conversations between the u.s. secret service and trump campaign staff regarding donald trump's comments on the second amendment. >> jim sciutto, thank you very much. out front now, donald trump's longtime friend michael cohen. let me start with that.
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donald trump said nobody in that room thought he meant violence. >> when i heard it i didn't think he was talking about inciting violence either. >> i'll tell you -- >> in talking to the campaign. >> you're making an assumption that secret service was talking to anybody. i highly doubt that secret service is talking to anybody of all cnn reporters to talk about it. >> they did speak to jim sciutto. an official in the secret service said there were conversations. >> a source affiliated with the secret service. >> he said it was an official in the secret service. >> i hely doubt it. i really doubt that the secret service is speaking to jim sciutto. >> i'm going to stand by his reporting because he said they are. you now know, michael, the man in the room that was behind donald trump when donald trump made that comment that sort of turned to the woman next to him and his jaw dropped. you can see it right there just so everyone can see it again and his jaw drops and then he sort
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of gives a love. he came on cnn today and was asked what he thought about that comment and here is what he said. >> i was just absolutely taken aghast. down here in the south we -- we don't curse in front of women. we don't drink liquor in front of the preacher and we don't make jokes like that in public. >> clearly some people thought he meant violence and was joking about violence. why not just come out and say if anyone thought that i am sorry. >> he's only one person. i listened to it. i didn't think he was inciting violence and i didn't think he was talking about anybody causing any bodily harm to hillary clinton. what this is in all fairness, this is the disgraceful, disgusting liberal mainstream media wanting it once again to detract from what's really the issue here. breaking news, donald trump makes a joke, a bad joke or he's
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misinterpreted and the bottom line is what they're trying to distract from these 44 e-mails that's really a serious thorn in the side of our liar in chief, right, who is sitting there and basically wants to push it as far down the news cycle as she possibly can so that she doesn't have to respond to it. >> on that i want to make sure you know we're devoting just as much time to her e-mails. >> i will not leave this chair until we fin tisch. >> you say the media is making this an issue and peter king is a supporter of donald trump and he's come out in favor of him. he thinks he should apologize. let me play peter king for you. >> i think it was a dumb remark. was he negligent in saying it? absolutely. he should take it back and make it clear he's taking it back. >> again, why not? what is so hard about saying i didn't mean that. i'm sorry to anyone who thought i did? >> you can't apologize to the whole world for their misinterpretati
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misinterpretation. >> we're talking about something that was misinterpreted as violence. >> here are some of the terms that the cnn reporter used on this specific topic, right? the super-heated rhetoric, the jaw-dropping comments, right? how do you interpret that? because i know how i interpret it, maybe we should bring the same individual on to ask him what he thinks about a jaw-dropping rhetoric, right? it is so ridiculous. the whole notion of this -- of this segment is ridiculous. we need to be focusing on the most important things which is the american people, job, economy, national security and we need to be talking about hillary clinton and being truthful. >> those are important things to focus and perhaps we could focus them more if donald trump did not continually continsay these things. >> michael hayden who was critical of hillary clinton receiving briefings and here is what he had to say about donald trump and the second amendment. >> you are not just responsible
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for what you say. you are responsible for what people hear. >> doesn't he have a point? if you want to be president of the united states and you say something that could be interpreted as going out and committing violence against an opponent to say i did not mean that? >> responsible for what people hear? people will hear what they want to hear. people will think what they want to think. donald trump in my opinion, was very clear in terms of what he was talking about which is that the people who are very supportive of second amendment and it's a very big issue to a lot of people should ensure to show up to the polls and vote her out. >> but that isn't what he said. if they had said we wouldn't be having that conversation. >> they can do something about it. that's what he said which is different. >> okay. >> can we focus on the 44 e-mails and the trustworthy or untrustworthy factor that even cnn in its own poll showing 64% of the people do not find her
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trustworthy? now i'm shocked because i would suspect that it's substantially higher than that. this is a pay to play series of e-mails and i'm hoping that the same people that are saying that donald trump made this statement and will turn around and will read the e-mails for themselves and interpret it the way that i'm interpreting it which is this is an absolute, 100% pay to play. >> so on that issue and we'll talk much more about this and one of the e-mails that i believe you're referring to that we'll talk about in a moment in our next segment was a clinton donor, someone who worked for the cgi or the clinton foundation reached out to the state department and aides to hillary clinton and requested a meeting for a big donor. that meeting was with at the time a former ambassador from lebanon. that ambassador says that meeting never happened so the e-mail requesting it came out, but the favor was never rendered. so in that case that would not appear to be a quid pro quo or pay to play. >> i wasn't even referring to that one.
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>> i was referring to the lebanese billionaire. >> that's the one i'm talking about. >> somewhere between 1 to 5 billion dollars and as far as my reading of it, it absolutely is 100% a pay to play. >> they requested a meeting on. >> anthony weiner's wife, uma aberdea abdin. >> the meeting never happened according to that ambassador. >> this is why they're calling hillary clinton -- >> are you trying to say he's a liar. >> the secretary of status quo. they're trying to keep their power. you cannot be part of the state department and be part of the clinton global initiative to be taking money from donor, least of all billionaires looking to influence their power somehow in order to assert some sort of a need in lebanon for some prop eerprope properery or company --
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>> the favor did not happen. there was no pay to play. >> do you have an e-mail that says we cannot do this that this is illegal and immoral. >> i have the person with whom that meeting was requested. they never received a request for the a meeting and the meeting never happened. >> the e-mail doesn't exist either? >> no, the e-mail exists and what they requested never happened. >> and donald trump an e-mail and asking him to do a favor and if he doesn't respond. >> someone that gave you $5 million and pledged a million dollars. >> that person did not receive the favor. >> this is not some random guy that turns around and sends some ridiculous e-mail to mr. trump or to me or to anybody. this is a guy who is a number one clinton foundation donor who is asking for -- >> you keep saying the same point, but what i'm saying is he didn't get the favor. >> says who? says the man with whom the favor was requested. >> do you really think he'll
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turn around and tell you if it was or it wasn't. >> i'm not going to assume that he will point-blank lie to the american people and i can simply say that he said no meeting was ever requested of him and no meeting occurred. >> what was the point of the e-mail then? >> the e-mail may have requested a favor, right? but the favor didn't happen. i'm simply saying this happens every single day. >> they know hillary clinton is for sale. >> if she were for sale the favor would have been given. >> how do you know it wasn't given? >> you are calling multiple people a liar. >> there's no doubt in my mind that this man who pledged a billion dollars and wanted hillary clinton, 100% got exactly when he wanted. >> the man with whom it was requested, they requested a meeting with what at the time was assistant secretary of state, a former ambassador. >> do you not think that these
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e-mails -- >> we'll keep saying the same thing again and again. >> don't they smell wrong and don't they insinuate that there's improp righty. >> there are serious questions about the, mail, but in the case the one we are talking about it appears no favor was rendered. >> it appears. >> we're going to keep talking about this, i mean, as it -- >> we should because the american people are sick and tired of what's going on with washington. they're sick and tired of the status quo of these professional politicians that are coming in and what are they doing? they are stealing our future. they're stealing our children's future and we need to talk about jobs, economy, national security. >> so i wanted to get this teed up and ready, so thank you, michael. let's talk more about these e-mails and there have been e-mails raising questions about clinton foundation ties to the state department about hillary clinton and michael and i have been talking in detail about one of them and you will hear more
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about that one right now. what these e-mails include is direct conversations between a top clinton aide and a top official about a big donor. that's the one we're talking about here. the lebanon situation. the rnc is calling on the state department to publish thousands of unreleased e-mails and how damaging could this be to hillary clinton? so now our report with jeff zeleny. >> reporter: old e-mails causing new trouble tonight for hillary clinton as she campaigns in iowa, a new batch of messages from her time as secretary of state is raising fresh questions about the influence and access. donors to the clinton family's charitable foundation had on the state department. the e-mails released tuesday after conservative watchdog group judicial watch filed suit is adding new fuel to a controversy hanging over her campaign. >> i know people have raised questions about my e-mail use as secretary of state, and i understand why. >> reporter: in one exchange a longtime aide to president clinton dubbed ban, lobbied secretary clinton's aides to find a job at the state for
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someone who was important to take care of. the name of the person band is trying to help is redacted. he made the request to huma abedin and cheryl hills. two of her closest advisers. personnel has been sending him options. there was no indication he was a donor. it's the latest chapter in a long saga over the clinton foundation and her e-mails and stockily her decision to use the private server as secretary of state. the fbi did not file charges, but it's taken a toll on her credibility. >> and i want to be as transparent as possible. >> reporter: in another e-mail, ban tries to connect a clinton foundation donor, a lebanese nigerian billionaire with the substance person on lebanon. as you know, he's a key guy there and to us is loved in lebanon. very important, band, wrote. donald trump is seizing on the disclosure calling it an example of a cozy and corrupt relationship between clinton
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donors and the state department. >> it's called pay for play, and some of these were really, really bad and illegal. >> reporter: a clinton campaign spokesman brushed aside the criticism saying hillary clinton never took action as secretary of state because of donations to the clinton foundation. >> reporter: now campaigning in iowa today, erin, hillary clinton was talking for the first time about those comments about donald trump and the second amendment. she also was confronted with a proteste protester. take a look at this video. an animal rights protester, a 26-year-old woman from chicago rushed the stage here and the secret service had to intervene and haul her away, but secretary clinton did not flinch during any of this and she did say shortly after that donald trump's words have not been precise here. the clinton campaign trying to make an issue over those words, but erin, they are eager to do anything to not have this focus on these e-mails newly released
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tonight. ier snin. >> jeff zeleny, thank you very much, and we will continue focusing on these e-mails because there are serious questions here. basil smiek cell a hillary clinton supporter and david brock is founder of correct the record, a pro-hillary clinton super pac and boris epistein is senior adviser for the trump campaign. basil, let me start with you. you just heard jeff's report and you heard michael and i having a heated dispute over one specific e-mail, but let us take a step back. it does not look good that you have top officials with the clinton foundation e-mailing the state department asking for meetings for jobs for what have you. it looks bad. >> as you mentioned earlier, the initial favor that was asked was not granted and the second e-mail with respect to the job was an advanced person that was looking for a job. it was a young person looking for work. look, i know the issue of these e-mails is going to come up. it's recurring. hillary clinton has said that
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it's going to, you know, it is a recurring theme throughout the cycle and i know that it's caused some damage, but i look at the fact that she has turned a corner on this and she is focused on this campaign and talking about issues. >> the problem they're going to have is this is beyond their control. they have no idea and neither does anyone apparently except the julian assanges of the world and whoever else what e-mails are out there and what's going to drop and what the content is. this could go on all of the way through the election and every day you have to wake up and find a story like this and the drip, drip, drip tendency here. one other thing. back in 1996 during the clinton-dole campaign, i wrote an article for "the wall street journal" about a drug dealer who got into the white house for a photo-op with president and mrs. clinton and the clinton white house said we didn't know, et cetera, et cetera. i worked in the white house and i knew you couldn't possibly get
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in there for a christmas party unless they know who you are. so there is a history of this kind of thing. >> no. let's not equate some issue with a drug dealer in this instance and these, mails. those are totally -- the clintons continue to deny and they continue to lie and that's what they've done throughout their career. don't forget the lincoln bedroom scandal in the '90s. the pay to play has been modus operandi for the clintons. >> no pay to play established here in any of the e-mails that have come out. >> i hit pause for a moment because the new york police department is holding a press conference on that scaler for trump tower today. let's listen in. >> hold on. >> good evening, everybody. i'm chief william morris and i'm the chief of manhattan south. i'll just give you preliminary information about what we have at this point regarding this incident today. at about 3:30 this afternoon we received a 911 call for a male
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who was scaling the outside glass here at trump tower. the address here is 725 fifth avenue. responding units from midtown north came and they observed a male on the outside of the atrium which is approximately the fourth floor of this location. the responding units secured the interior of the trump towers working with private security here and utilizing additional resources from patrol and also the strategic response group and the critical response command and the traffic management center. we extended our perimeter beyond the building in the outside area and the vicinity. once we stabilized the perimeter we requested the fire department and the emergency service unit and the emergency service unit under the command of chief giordano responded to the scene and took tactical control of the situation and commenced operations.
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>> upon responding to the job we got it as a jumper, someone attempting to jump from the building. emergency service personnel responded. our first contact was on the fifth floor above the atrium. we were able to establish to brake a window and establish some type of dialogue and we then secured three jumper air bags and numerous amount of equipment for high-angle rescue job. the individual continued to send and go vertical and horizontal at different times at which time what we tried to do was try to isolate him and contain him to a point to take him into custody. we wanted to proceed slow. we didn't want the individual to fall so we wanted to do it in the most safe manner as possible. we got to a point whery woo came up with a very good plan with emergency service personnel that were on the scene. we wanted to remove some of the glass and aagain, try to preven
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him from ascending any further up. we had some assistance from instruments that were brought to the scene and they were instrumental in removing the panes of glass and the scaffolding on the side of the building all of the way from the 55th floor down to isolate him to a point where he no longer had the advantage of ascending. once we removed the panes of glass and he got to a point where his only way to ascend was to go pretty much probably a two-feet pane of glass between the scaffolding and the officers that were at the window on the 21st floor and we pretty much advised him that putting his suction cups and all of the weight on that window would possibly cause it to crack. that information, the glaciers was very influential in providing that information to us and once he proceeded to pretty much ignore that, and tried to
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ascend detective williams and detective walker found it the opportune moment to try to take advantage of that opportunity and bring that individual into safety through the window, all right? lieutenant lesitra was the ranking supervisor at the location as well as inspector galvan and inspector finnegan who were actually coordinating me on the 21st floor. so again, we had a real good plan between ground operations and tactical operations on the level where the individual was climbing and take that person into custody in a safe and most efficient manner as possible. go ahead. >> chief of manhattan south detectives. >> this individual is a 20-year-old individual from virginia. he came up here yesterday. he's staying at a local hotel. what he explained to us was he wanted a personal meeting with mr. trump and he posted a
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youtube video on tuesday. that youtube video explains that he's an independent researcher, and he wanted to meet with him and that's the reason why he was climbing this building. at no time did he express that he wanted to hurt anybody. his sole intention was to meet with mr. trump. it took three hours to get him in custody and upon getting him into custody he, plained the same thing that he wanted mr. trump's attention and wanted a meeting with him. >> any questions? we'll take some questions. >> what was in the backpack? >> in the backpack were -- what we got from him were five suction cups and we have identification we recovered from him and there were various identifications. he was explaining that he previously went by one name and now he goes by a different name. we're researching that and we're looking into that. it's part of the investigation. >> what's that? >> he was taken to bellevue hospital and he will be psychologically evaluated and he'll be placed under arrest and we're working with the manhattan
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district attorney's office to determine the appropriate charges. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm sorry, what? [ inaudible question ] >> yes. [ inaudible question ] >> we're looking into that. the suction cups could -- he could have gotten them from any mountain climbing type of facility or store. so that's part of the investigation. we'll look into all of that. . where was the secret service during all of this? >> during the course of the operation we were in consultation with the secret service throughout it. >> was the building secure? how did the guy even able to climb up? >> that matter is under investigation at this point. [ inaudible question ] >> as i said before, we were in consultation with the secret
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service throughout this operation. i would refer that question to the secret service. >> can we talk about the moment that you brought him in? what you were waiting for? >> the chief can speak about when the decision was made and then he'll have the two officers. >> that would be great. >> basically the conversation that was said is he wanted to climb to the top so that he could talk to mr. trump. that was the basis of most of his conversation, but again, what we wanted to do was get to a point where we would have the advantage again to be in close enough proximity to safely secure him and take him into custody without endangering any of the officers and again, endangering even his life. when he got to the point when he was on that pane of window where if he would have put all his weight there was a possibility he could have cracked chris williams and dave walker felt that was an opportune moment,
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all right? to make that rescue and bring him into the location. >>. >> could you talk about that moment and what you were waiting for and what you were looking for and took advantage of that moment? >> i was looking for when it was safe for him, myself and my crusoe when that time came i did talk to my crew and i said listen, he's at a level where i am able to grab him safely and bring him in. when he presented himself i reached out and i took hold of his hand, i said sir, you need to come with me and i brought him inside with the help of my partner and we placed him in custody and handed him over to ems. [ inaudible question ] >> he thought about it. [ inaudible question ] >> he didn't have much to say at
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that point. >> what happened inside the building? was there a wrestling to the ground or anything like that or did he go peacefully? >> no, sir. he went peacefully. >> can you talk about the conversations you had with him as he was climbing up. what were you saying to him and what was he saying back to you? what were those conversations? >> i was lowering the safety line to him to explain to him he should lock himself in and god forbid something happen. he was climbing for a while and i could see he was getting tired. if you lock this in you won't fall. his thing was he wanted to go to talk to trump. >> who made the decision to cut the glass? >> my supervisor. >> did you guys realize he was right below you? >> no. it was to the side of him.
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we take all precautions for everyone's safety. >> thank you, folks. >> hold on. >> when we made -- when we made the decision we initially made the decision and we took some glass, but he was in a position where it wasn't going to endanger him because he was off to the side and once he swung over to the other side, again, the plan was developed upstairs that we couldn't do that anymore so again, the concept was to remove the window panes and again, this would provide safety for not only him, but also the officers and anybody below that were in the rescue operations so that decision was skub sequentially made based upon where he was and our ability to contain him and isolate him to that location. >> thank you, chief. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you, guys. the press conference from the nypd on the man that was scaling trump tower. he just wanted a personal meeting with mr. trump. he is currently being evaluated for psychiatric reasons at a
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hospital in new york and they have arrested him. 20 years old, a man from virginia. boris, i want to talk more about the e-mail, but first, you were in the building this afternoon when this happened and someone else in the building said there was a spiral notebook that he was holding up for people to see and someone who saw it told you what it said. >> i was told and it said something to the effect that i'm a trump supporter and i will not hurt anybody. >> to try to say he wasn't a threat. >> nonetheless, you don't want somebody scaling a building with a backpack like that. that was a safety concern and that's what i was told, to the effect that i'm a trump supporter and i will not hurt anybody. >> this just adds to the whole tenor of this campaign. they were asking about secret service and whether they could keep this building safe. i mean, this isn't something that they never thought could have happened and never mind foreseen how they would address it. >> this is a society we live and we talked about this woman who
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jumped up on stage and this is the problem here for this, and one thing i do want to -- if we go back to the second amendment thing. a quote from john kerry, senator kerry was doing a riff with bwih bill maher. or i could have gone to 1600 pennsylvania avenue and killed the bird. he is now secretary of state, you know? >> really quickly and coming again, directly before the campaign, that is incorrect. unless he offers some substantive information there have been discussions between the secret service and the campaign specifically about that. it is incorrect and the secret service through reuters has backed that up. >> i am going to stand by jim sciutto's reporting and he said he spoke to an official with the secret service and we'll leave that there. you say what you say, we say what we say.
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>> there are comments -- that comment is a horrific comment, if true and it should have been met with outrage. >> it is not just the one comment. >> i think one comment you can say, okay, somebody misspoke. everybody misspeaks and it's a pattern of reckless rhetoric. it's a pattern of inciting violence. i don't have to recite it. we know what it is. threatening to take power by unconstitutional means. >> when you speak of a pattern and hillary clinton has that trouble, too. these e-mails add to that. 64% of voters, but she has a problem with people thinking she's honest and trustworthy. that's a pretty damning thing to say and these e-mails are part of that. >> her favorability is increasing if you look at the polls in the last three weeks. people saw her on stage at the convention. i think she's turning a corner on that issue, and i think the only reason we're talking about these e-mails is jeffrey referred to drip, drip, drip. that's true, but it's not just happening organically. there is a republican strategy
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here and this is a right-wing group that has been suing the clintons for 20 years. >> no, no -- [ indiscernible ] >> hold on! hold on! you're all talking at the same time. >> he said this whole e-mail thing is by the republicans to drive up hillary's negative. >> using legal channels and the laws on the books to get information that the clintons continue to obstruct and not put out there -- >> no, the reason is because -- >> hold on, hold on. >> she lied to congress when she said she could turn over all of her e-mails and that was a lie and perjury. true. she's lying to the american people when she said she would turn over her e-mails and what's in the missing, mails? what's in the 33,000 e-mails? lastly, even if there was no meeting with this specific ambassador that you talked about and there must have been other meetings and doug ban -- doug ban on. >> let me give him the final
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word. >> okay! hold on! hold on! it it is beneficial for republicans and you in particular to continue to bring up these e-mails. >> your campaign depends on it. >> your campaign depends on it and the fact of the matter is -- >> hold on again! nobody can hear any of you when you all talk. >> the voters have spoken and they will continue to speak. she got more votes than any candidate in the primary season and we are talking about states like -- we're talking about voters in states like georgia and arizona. now in play because people believe in her message. >> he was saying florida is still in a dead heat. >> really? we'll see. >> and julian assange is not a republican. >> out front next trump second amendment firestorm firing a pattern and the outrage and then the claim he was misunderstood and exactly what we were just arguing about. our special report next. so i use the rewards program to earn free nights. which i can use for my new friends here.
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becomes president that second amendment people could stop her. as tom foreman reports, the second amendment is not the first time the republican nominee has landed in hot water over comments he says were misunderstood. >> she's one of the wealthiest women in politics. >> even as the nra rolls out a tough attack on hillary clinton, donald trump has stolen the spotlight with his own comment about how she might regulate guns. >> if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is. i don't know. >> reporter: now he's insisting that was no call for violence, but this is a maneuver trump has used repeatedly, make an explosive statement, watch headlines erupt and then play defense. method one, declare it was a joke. >> i will tell you this, russia, if you're listening i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.
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>> he did that when challenged over what appeared to be an invitation for a foreign power to hack into clinton's e-mails. >> of course, i'm being sarcastic. >> method two, say it was a misunderstanding. remember his dispute with fox news host megyn kelly? >> you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes -- blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> trump later tweeted he meant her nose and dismissed critics who thought otherwise as disgusting. he took a similar attack when he wanted an american judge of mexican descent off of a lawsuit involving trump. >> now this judge is of mexican heritage. i'm building a wall. i'm building a wall. >> reporter: once again, trump argued his statements were misconstrued as racist and method three, deny any ill intent. a new poll shows no trump attack has troubled voters more than when he mocked a disabled reporter. >> you have to see this poor guy, i don't know what i said!
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thanks so much for joining us, as always. watch our show out front any time anywhere on cnngo. "ac 360" begins right now. good evening. john berman here in for anderson. it was about the only thing missing in this campaign, a man with suction cups climbing a building. about 20 stories up trump tower. that's about how far this guy got, suction cups and all before members of the nypd's elite emergency services unit grabbed him as stunned people on the street looked on. this climbing standoff just one of several campaign stories any one one of which could lead the newscast and we'll get to all of it and first authorities briefed on what went down and who went up. listen to the officer who pulled the climber in. >> i was waiting for the perfect time to present itself. when i felt it was safe for him and myself and