tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN August 14, 2016 6:00am-7:01am PDT
off message. trump claims sarcasm after his comments about obama and clinton fuel fury. >> he is the founder of isis. he is the founder of isis. he is the founder! >> as new polls show him behind in key battle ground states, can his provocative comments prove a winning strategy? his campaign chairman will be here live. and breaking point. some republicans say it's time to cut bait on trump and focus on winning other sources. trump says he doesn't even need their money to begin with. >> i am the one that's funding and raising the money. other people are getting to use the money that i raise.
>> who will win as the gop infighting continues? plus, e-mail albatross. breaking news that notes from clinton's interviews with the fbi might be released as soon as tomorrow, with continued questions about the non-separation of clinton foundation and state, can she ever get out from under this cloud? and all the best political minds will be here with insights from the campaign trail. hello. i am jake tapper in washington with the state of our union. it's a bit sweaty. nearly a dozen people treated for heat-related symptoms after 5,000 donald trump supporters packed into a steamy connecticut gym last night to hear mr. trump unplugged. >> i'll tell you honestly, i am not running against crooked hillary clinton. i am running against the crooked media. that's what i'm running against.
it's true. i'm not running against crooked hillary. >> trump took hits at your friends at cnn, but his wrath mostly seemed to focus on the "new york times." a new story in the newspaper paints the trump campaign as somewhat unmoored with the candidate described as depressed and scared as he realizes he may not be able to win. >> you better elect me, folks or i'll never speak to you again. can you imagine -- can you imagine how badly i'll feel if i spent all of that money, all of this energy, all of this time and lost! i will never, ever for gigive t people of connecticut. >> joining me from new york is trump campaign chairman paul manafort. thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you, jake. >> republicans in washington and throughout the country are starting to get very worried
that mr. trump doesn't have the discipline to stay on message and win the election. you see the polling showing him behind in battle ground states. i know he did an economic speech monday and he'll do a speech on terrorism tomorrow. in between, of course, he does seem to go off message. last night he was talking about monica lewinsky's blue dress. what do you say to republicans who call you and say please get mr. trump to focus? >> first of all, the piece you just did is an example of why -- he said last night that besides running against hillary clinton he's running against the media. the point he was making is this week was a substantive week. he talked about an economic plan, and hillary clinton presented her economic plan. they were two different plans. our plan very clearly laid out how he was going to cut taxes, lower the tax rates for small businesses, how that would create more jobs. he talked about his trade policy. he talked about his energy policy and making america energy independent. she laid out a program which, frankly, is exactly what this administration is doing, raising
taxes, raising spending, increasing the national debt. and there was a debate that could have been had there. instead, the media chose to take the clinton campaign narrative and go on attack on donald trump. donald trump, in the course of this week, was very substantive. when he visited a number of battle ground states. you didn't cover it. frankly, the local media is covering it. so from our standpoint we're pleased that we're getting the coverage we need in the battleground states where the campaign will be fought. contrary to your report and contrary to the "new york times" nameless sources story the campaign is moving forward and very strong. we raised over $132 million in the last two months. we're organized in all 50 states. all 50 states. we have been in the battle ground states every day this month, including pennsylvania, ohio and florida, multiple times this month. and we are starting to get traction in those states. so we are convinced that
contrary to the stories of the "new york times," which are not correct, and contrary to the lead-in to this interview of trump unplugged, that trump is very plugged in. he is very connected. and you're seeing crowds attending these appearances that are end of october numbers. not the -- not august numbers. in august -- look at the crowds hillary clinton is getting. she is appearing before 30, 40, 100 people. he's appearing before 10,000, 20,000 people. that shows you how the campaign is working contrary to what the media is saying. >> one of the reasons mr. trump's message about the economy on monday was side-tracked was when he raised the possibility of second amendment people taking matters into their own hands to stop clinton from appointing pro-gun control judges. that's a controversy you reject. trump said afterwards that no one thought he was suggesting violence. but take a listen. here is mr. trump. >> nobody in that room thought anything other than what you
just said. there can be no other interpretation. even reporters have told me, give me a break. >> here is the thing. it wasn't just reporters. it was republicans. it was people in washington, d.c., who want mr. trump to win. and then, if you look at the speech, when he made those remarks, the man with the white beard sitting right behind mr. trump at that event. cnn tracked him down. take a listen. >> i was just absolutely taken aghast. down here in the south we -- we don't curse in front of women. we don't drink liquor in front of the preacher. and we don't make jokes like that in public. we would have taken mr. trump to the shed and said, don't say things like that because people will misconstrue it. >> so that's darrell vickers. that's a man who is going to vote for trump. and he interpreted it the same way a lot of other people do. does mr. trump need to listen to
what mr. vickers had to say, which is be more careful with your words? >> look, i'm not going to say he didn't interpret it that way or not. the point is most people did not interpret it that way. it was not meant at all to be a threat. but the point, again, is you could have covered what he was saying, or you could try and take an aside and take the clinton narrative and play it out. and you chose to do that instead. there's plenty of news to cover this week that i haven't seen covered. you had information coming out about pay for play out of e-mails of hillary clinton's that weren't turned over, by the way, to the justice department for her investigation. that's a major news story. you had -- you had the nato base in turkey under attack by terrorists. you had a number of things that were appropriate to this campaign, were part of what mr. trump has been talking about. you economic numbers coming out this week showing that productivity is down, housing ownership is down, unemployment, you know, is at the -- at over
102 million. these are all things that could have been covered this week. instead you took an aside that the clinton narrative told you was something mr. trump told you he didn't mean and played it out for two days. that's what we're talking about. >> as a factual matter, on monday my show covered mr. trump's speech, okay. we did. we covered mr. trump's speech. and we did cover the hillary clinton e-mails. so these things, just because you say they're not -- they're not true. we have been covering the substance. >> jake, we've been talking about these messages all week. you covered it one day, and you covered this aside about the second amendment for three days. come on! there's not a comparison here. you had a chance to have a serious discussion about the two economic programs that were presented this past week. this very week by the two candidates. there was no discussion. there was no comparison. >> you mr. trump bears no
responsibility for his campaign being off-message? he is not -- his comments about the second amendment had nothing to do with why we weren't covering the economic message. >> his point about the second amendment was that people who cared about the second amendment should be concerned about hillary clinton's candidacy and that those who are concerned probably would take up the cause. now you can interpret it, which i certainly didn't, as a threat. but if you want to go back and look at threats, go back to 2008 when hillary clinton was running against obama and in may of that year when she was clearly the loser and asked why are you still in the race she said, well, remember, bobby kennedy was assassinated in 1968. i mean, that's a much more direct reference laid at the feet of hillary clinton. >> i did cover that in 2008. i did cover it in 2008. and hillary clinton, you know what she did? she issued an apology. she said i'm sorry my comments were construed that way. that's not how i meant it.
let's move on. i want to ask you about mike pence. he told an interviewer he would release his tax returns. hillary clinton and tim kaine were released theirs. that puts him at odds with mr. trump. in 2012 donald trump pushed then nominee mitt romney to release his taxes. >> you didn't see the tax returns, you think there's almost like something wrong. what's wrong. >> that's mr. trump saying you need to see the tax returns or you think what's wrong. you could put the issue to rest right now if you release mr. trump's 2008 returns. that's a year no longer under audit according to mr. trump's lawyers. you have made the calculation it's better to take the hit than to let the public see what's in the taxes. mr. trump said in 2012, as he said, what's wrong in these tax returns? what do you not want the public to see? >> there is nothing that he doesn't want the public to see. mr. trump's position has been clear from the beginning. he's under audit. when that's completed he'll release the returns. in mrs. clinton's returns you saw a lot of income coming from
donors to the clinton foundation and people who benefit from her state department term as well. i haven't seen stories on that yet. >> mr. trump unveiled his economic plan this week. i want to ask you about that, if we can. he proposed across-the-board tax cuts with the biggest monetary benefit going to the top 1%. now, you compare that to the rhetoric that mr. trump offered in september. take a listen. >> it reduces or eliminates most of the deductions and loop-holes available to special interests and to the very rich. in other words, it's going to cost me a fortune. >> now listen to what mr. trump had to say to the "today" show in march. >> do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy? >> i do. i do. including myself. i do. >> does seem that the plan he unveiled monday walks away from what he said in march and last september when he talked about how it was going to really hurt
the very wealthy. >> i'm sorry. i couldn't hear the last sentence. >> my question is, his tax plan, as unveiled monday, seems to walk away from what he said in september and march when he said the very wealthy would pay much more. >> not at all. he lays out three rates. 12%, 25%, and 35%. in those rates, what he's talking about is increasing the -- taking away a number of deductions that are used by the very wealthy. i'm sorry. 33%. taking away deductions that are only used by the wealthy so that -- but more importantly, he removes from the tax rolls a significant percentage of the american people. taxes will go down. there will be more real spending income for middle-income working
families and, as a result of this tax plan, and all of the components of the tax plan, the trade elements, the investment elements, you're going to have a situation where jobs are going to come back to america, manufacturing had benefit again, the coal industry will benefit again, the oil and gas industry will benefit again. which means more jobs, good-paying jockbs and the econy will grow again. under obama we've had the slowest growth since 2002. the clinton plan announced this week will be more of the same so that the kind of growth you've experienced for the last eight years you'll experience for four more years. the trump plan, similar to the reagan plan and similar to the john f. kennedy plan in 1961 would spur growth, create jobs and lower taxes for most americans. >> it wouldn't cost mr. trump a fortune is my point. i only have time for one more question. the co-chairman of donald
trump's new york campaign said this week that khizr khan doesn't deserve to be called a gold star parent because, in the words of your new york co-chair, mr. khan supports this isis-type attitude against america. medal of honor recipient dakota meyer responded by saying the khans gave the ultimate sacrifice. to attack them and claim they don't deserve to be called gold star parents is a slap in the face to anyone who has ever served in the military? do you feel you're dishonoring the military by continuing to have carl pellegrini still serve in the campaign? >> i am sure the father of the pulse caberet murderer was
sitting in the v.i.p. section of hillary clinton's speech. that concerns me. he is an avowed islamic radical. that concerns me. she has totally ignored that fact. >> you didn't address the question at all, but that's all the time we have. >> i don't know about the quote. i don't know about the quote. i would have to check into the situation. certainly mr. trump has made it very clear that he recognizes the sacrifices of all gold star parents and he empathized for that loss. and he talked about the importance of having a policy that will reduce the risk of terrorist threats in america and around the world. >> okay. >> this week we'll be talking about that. >> your new york co-chair is attacking a gold star family. you might want to look into that. thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> thank you, jake. jumping ship. life-long republicans saying they're so fed up with donald trump they'd rather vote for hillary clinton. even a former bush cabinet member. what made him make the switch? he'll be here next.
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welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. switching teams doesn't happen often in politics. especially when you work in the white house. our next guest went from walking the halls of pennsylvania avenue with george w. bush as one of his cabinet secretaries to announcing his support factor hillary clinton. it's a remarkable move. he says donald trump has just pushed him too far. former commerce secretary carlos gutierrez is here. thank you for being here. appreciate it. so hillary clinton is -- she is a pretty liberal democrat. was this a tough choice for you? >> it was. i have been a republican -- but -- my inclination was to vote for a republican. i was a jeb bush person. i made the switch away from trump, it was that week of the
judge, my african-american. that for me did it. that's it. i don't want to go back to a country where, if a child has a spanish last name that the president, the leader of the country, is giving kids a license to bully them. >> so let me ask -- >> to say p.o.w.s are not heroes. >> we're having microphone issues. come on in. we're doing this live on air. this is how television works sometimes. so let me ask you, there are a lot of republicans, obviously, who don't think highly of hillary clinton's ethics or her honesty or her trustworthiness. is any of this an issue for you sh. >> obviously the whole thing is a consideration and i had to look at the totality of the picture. i have one resumé here for donald trump. i have one resumé here for hillary clinton. and i have chosen this resumé. i think this person, hillary
clinton, is the best for the country. i am not thinking about a republican. i am thinking about a u.s. citizen. i think at some point you have to put the party aside and say what's best for the country. i don't want to live in a society that i think donald trump will create. >> so you were a jeb guy. you worked for george w. bush. did you let them know, hey -- >> i sent e-mails out. >> you sent e-mails out. >> right. >> did they write back? >> no. >> it's weird. i haven't heard from jeb bush, george w. bush or george h.w. bush or any of their spouses who are strong women in their own right, about who they're going to vote for. >> one option is to not vote. that's an option i had. but i think that's letting ourselves off the hook. i actually think that hillary clinton has the experience. she has been around. she knows how the system works. i think she would make a darned good president. i would have preferred jeb bush, but i think hillary is a great choice.
i am afraid of what donald trump would do to this country. >> what are you afraid of? what do you mean -- other than -- >> first of all, look, the economy is important to me. his plan -- i love the tax cuts. i am a republican. but then he has this sort of import substitution strategy, which is a strategy like an underdeveloped country. very poor countries think that way, we have to substitute our imports. that would be a disaster. especially for income taxes. >> you think hillary would be better for the economy? >> i think so. i think they learned budget deficits hinder growth. that's what president clinton did in the second term is cut the deficit, and that drove the growth. she has learned from that. i'm sure she knows that. >> you are the former -- go ahead. >> the other thing, too, is just the kind of society that we will create. i heard the other day, as you know, that david duke is running for congress in louisiana. >> he is running for senate. >> all right. running for senate.
he is under trump's platform. is that a trend? are we going to see more of that? is that the kind of saeociety we're going to be? are we going back 50 years? i don't want to go back 50 years. >> i can already anticipate what mr. trump will say about it. you are the former ceo of kellogg. former commerce secretary. your company helps multinationals gain market trea. y entry. you sit on the boards. you are an elite. >> i am a proud free enterprise guy. i believe in trade and free enterprise. secretary clinton talked a lot about in her economic speech a lot about new business formation. that's the core of our growth. new businesses. microsoft was once a new business. it became a large business. most new jobs come from new businesses. those are concepts that you may say, well, it's kind of obvious. i haven't heard an economic
concept out of trump's mouth except for protectionism and lower taxes. putting those two together is a recipe for disaster. >> what are you hearing from other people in the global elite because you're welcome they vote republican. they were proud supporters of george w. bush, mitt romney, john mccain. where are your fellow ceo types in this election? >> most of them are totally disgusted by the trump nomination. they don't know what to do. so, as you said, you know, there is this relationship with the clintons, the republicans and clintons, and it hasn't been great. so they're reluctant to support secretary clinton. but they're not going to vote for donald trump. and i think that will be a big problem for the trump campaign. but jake, this is a time to think about the country. and even think about the party. if trump wins, i think it's a tactical victory for him and a strategic loss for the gop. and this is the time to stand up
and be -- show some leadership. >> where does the republican -- if trump does not win in november, where does the republican party go from there? will you help rebuild it? >> yes, of course. i am still a republican. i think that's an interesting way of thinking about it is, is this the message we -- the wake-up call that we need to re-assess who we are as a party. >> aren't your party leaders out of step with the voters? they don't like these trade deals that you've pushed for. >> trade deals have traditionally been, you know, supported by republicans. and i think it's a mistake. this is one thing where i am not in agreement with either of the two candidates. i think tpp is necessary. you know, asia is being created into a trade bloc. and unless we have tpp a lot of our companies will be locked out. not today but five, ten years from now. >> so you're supporting hillary clinton even though you have different views on trade.
you negotiate the cafta. >> i don't agree with anyone but i'm supporting hillary clinton and i'll do everything possible to make sure the gop doesn't get destroyed. >> carlos gutierrez, thank you for being here. trump warning supporters the election will be rigged. is he laying the groundwork to contest the voting results? >> the only way they can beat it, in my opinion -- and i mean this 100% -- if in certain sections of the state they cheat. see me. see me. don't stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have.
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it's either going to work or i'm going to, you know, i'm going to have a very, very nice long vacation. a very, very nice long vacation. sounds nice to me. is that the future donald trump is imagining after seeing the latest poll numbers? here with me cnn political commentators amanda carpenter and bakari sellers. democratic congressman xavier bacerra and former republican governor of arizona jan bruer. governor, let me start with you. whatever happened to we're going to win so much you're going to be sick of winning? now he's talking about nice long vacations. >> i think, jake, anybody in this embattled campaign they think, well, if i don't win i'm going on a long vacation. candidates say that. >> you've said it publicly? >> i have. i have. even if you win sometimes you think you deserve a nice long vacation. campaigning is difficult, as you are well aware. >> it's very tough. >> it's like 18 hours a day,
grind, grind, seven days a week. you deserve a vacation. so why not. but donald trump is going to win. >> bakari, what did you make of the tone? >> i think there are a lot of americans who really want donald trump to go on a nice long vacation. i think the donald trump, what we're starting to see is him take different tacts. he was campaigning in connecticut. i think donald trump -- i was reading in the "new york times" article, though they don't write good as donald trump has said recently. i think we're starting to see donald trump's campaign falling apart at the seams. we saw it with paul manafort on this show earlier. they're trying to regroup but donald trump will not stay on the rails. at least corey lewandowski had him on the rails but now he's falling completely apart. >> you heard him blaming the media. donald trump has a plan. he's on message.
he's talking about it but the media is following the hillary clinton playbook in and covering the distractions. what do you think? >> he started off the week relatively okay. he had an economic speech and said, gosh, some things we could work with. he was on message. shortly after he decided his talking point for the week would be that obama founded isis. he made his surrogates defend it for an entire day. then he came out a day later saying he was only being sarcastic. he blew his economic speech and then spent three days on the talking point that he then took back as sarcastic. that's the problem. >> what do you make of it, congressman? hillary clinton -- we'll talk about her, but she's not been able to break 50% in a lot of the polls. even though she is up like in double digits in some of them, it seems to be an indication of his weakness more than her like super-strength. >> self-inflicted wounds. clearly donald trump is his own worst enemy and he is causing himself the difficulty. he is a guy who won't follow the
script. he won't follow any direction. he thinks it works. i'll be the first to buy flip-flops for the long vacation. >> as a trump supporter, doesn't it bother you when he goes out and makes -- i don't know how you interpret it, but his remark about the second amendment, which got him off message for a day or two. then he starts talking about obama is the founder of isis. doesn't that bother you? you want him to win. >> i absolutely want him to win. i believe the american public wants him to win. >> not according to the polls. >> we have polls saying he is clearly closing the gap now. i have them in front of me here. the bottom line is that we are closing in the polls. donald trump is out there talking to the people, and he is very realistic. he is a different kind of candidate. a lot different than hillary clinton who doesn't give press conferences, doesn't answer questions. the media tends to look at a few little statements he might say off the cuff and blow them up. let's talk about the policies that he's put out, and he's
getting ready to do another policy release on monday on terrorism. and i hope that it is well received. i'm sure that it will be because those are the issues that people are concerned about. they're concerned about jobs, the economy, security. and we want to hear more about that rather than the press completely and continuously beating down on certain little one-word sentences. >> how dare we cover the comments he makes. one of the things he said the other day was about how -- that the election might be rigged and the only way he would lose a state like pennsylvania, which has not gone republican in presidential contests since i was 19 years old. he said the only way he would lose pennsylvania is if the election were rigged. take a listen. >> the only way we can lose, in my opinion -- i really mean this, pennsylvania -- is in cheating goes on. i really believe it. >> he is down 10 points in the latest q poll in pennsylvania. how on earth is that a opinion thing to say? >> i believe -- and i was the chief election officer of the state of arizona for six years,
so we know that the integrity of voting is very important, not only to donald trump but to everyone. everybody wants to know that their vote does count. so we have implemented all kinds of security procedures. poll watchers. certification of the equipment, the instructions, the -- all this -- >> you're not really answering the question. >> if i may -- sorry to interrupt you, governor. if i may, this is a long list, the litany of donald trump denigrating our democracy. he has no respect for the institutions of this country. whether it's the judiciary. now he's denigrating our democracy. the root of our democracy. our elections. i have a very big problem with voter i.d. which has gone rampant in the republican party as they try to prevent black and brown people from voting. >> that's ridiculous. >> it is not. >> we have voter i.d. implemented in arizona. >> arizona had some of the worst primary elections of this cycle.
>> how so? >> you had lines of four and five hours where people were not able to vote. voter i.d. has been proven to disenfranchise older people and people who are black and brown. >> in regards to the numbers in the past they put up polling places -- >> i want to get back to the issue about challenging the idea of pennsylvania. if mr. trump loses pennsylvania. it's only because it's rigged. >> sure. we saw donald trump use this kind of talking point through the primary process. any state that he won, he overcame the rigged process by such overwhelming margins that he had to win by such a big thing. ted cruz won a state, the election was rigged. here is the larger problems. he is a provocateur without a point. if there was some kind of turning point where he was going into a positive direction, you could see where he was going, that would be one thing. he's just denigrating the process in a way that he thinks
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welcome back to cnn's "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. breaking news this morning. sources telling that the contents of hillary clinton's interview with the fbi -- those contents are headed to congress. it's not a transcript. there are notes taken by an fbi agent about the interview, both content and impressions of the interview. several republican lawmakers have requested them after james comey's testimony. this following news of disputes in the fbi of whether to release the information. congressman bacerra, again, this e-mail story, it's just not
going away. >> we can talk about it. we can investigate it as much as we want. the professionals who are non-partisan investigated it. the fbi came to a conclusion. i suspect that what we'll find is congress, the republicans, will probably selectively leak certain portions of that. i suggest that we let the public see the entire set of notes if we're going to start to leak some of them because it's important for people to understand that the fbi did as thorough an investigation as possible on this. it's time to talk about job creation, trying to take care of the zika virus. making sure michigan has clean water. opioid abuse and the things americans are worried about now. >> amanda, what do you make of this development? obviously this will breathe some new life and attention into something the clinton campaign doesn't want to talk about. >> she said she was truthful with the fbi. >> comey said she was truthful to the fbi. >> she was not truthful to the
american people. we should see what it looks like when hillary clinton is truthful. but republicans should be very careful to not come off as they're conducting or second-guessing the fbi. this should be about getting clarity on the situation, getting information into the public sphere and letting the people decide. >> i agree with that. this is a horrible precedent to set. now the united states congress will go around and start back-checking the fbi and the work they do, especially in interviews? this is another story that's much ado about nothing. earlier this week we had e-mails from the clinton founding. one giving information to the secretary of state, not receiving anything. the other was a person trying to get a job because of the work he did in haiti. i believe it was on your show where we broke the news of cheryl mills on private time going to new york to take part in a charity, which is what the foundation is. all of these stories combined
are really much ado about nothing. i hope the clinton campaign starts talking about the millions of children the clinton foundation helps around the world. the millions of women who now have health care around the world. the millions of people getting educated around the world because of the clinton foundation. >> governor. >> hillary clinton is a known non-truth teller. the bottom line is that the people of america know she does not tell the truth, and we deserve the right to see the transcripts or the notes from the fbi. director comey said that she was untruthful. she has a history -- >> that's not what he said. i guess the fact-check is and then i'll let you finish. he said she was truthful to the fbi and then when read a bunch of statements she made to the american people he said they were not true. >> she didn't tell the truth to the american public. she completely lied to the american public. people need somebody with character to sit in the white house and to direct and be the commander in chief of this country. and hillary clinton -- >> 30,000 e-mails or pages of
e-mail, we know as much about this as we're going to find. the fbi is now being investigated by the congress, republicans in congress. it's time for us to look at one tax return from donald trump. maybe find out how his wife got her legal status to be in this country. those are the kinds of things that i think people really deserve to know. if he's going to ban immigrants he should explain how his wife became a legal immigrant and a citizen. >> you have an administration directing the d.o.j. not to prosecute. >> that's not what happened. that never happened. >> this is what happens in trump's america. we begin to get fact free. this cannot happen. we the department of justice looked into the clinton foundation, found there was nothing there. when the fbi came back and said we want to look into it, they said we've taken that step and there is nothing there. >> the fbi said they had a tip from a foreign national about a
questionable financial trains acti transaction and he was a donor to the clinton foundation. it may have been two separate subjects. the reason why everyone wants to go back and look at the investigation, i think, is because hillary clinton doesn't answer any questions. look at what happened in the state department press meeting earlier this week. reporters tried to find out -- >> she did a full committee -- >> she does not do press conferences. she does not answer questions from the press. that's why -- >> she sat there for 11 hours. 11 hours. >> that was the benghazi investigation. not the clinton foundation. >> now we want to have another investigation with her sitting there for 11 hours? >> why does hillary clinton find it that she has to keep the clinton foundation running while she is secretary of state, while she is -- >> because of what the clinton foundation does. >> i'm not going to be one of these people -- i am not one of the people who backs away from the good work the clinton foundation does. i hope the campaign gets on the offense more. why can't they do good work through the foundation?
>> why can't they stop it during the presidency. >> because children of the world need them. 9.9 million kids now have access to vaccinations because of the clinton foundation. >> it just fills her pockets. they run around the countries pick-pocketing everybody to put into their personal back accounts. >> we'll make a deal, governor. i'll get secretary clinton to do a press conference on the clinton foundation when you get donald trump's tax returns. >> deal! >> all right. common ground. common ground achieved here right now. usa, usa. it's a chant we have heard at the rio games and the conventions in cleveland and philly. what else do the olympics and the presidential race have in common? that's the subject of this week's "state of the cartoonian."
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this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today we'll ask what does the world think of america's frolicking presidential campaign. >> he's the founder of isis. >> donald trump is not qualified to be president and he is unfit to be commander in chief. >> i'll talk to people in south africa, to russia, israel to britain. then who are donald trump's voters in i'll talk to the author of a haunting memoir, who grew up in the coal