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now it is about policy choices. vice president joe biden taking on that accusation. he and calderon made their own new case for what trump could mean for national security. we have every angle covered for you. let's begin with athena jones live in washington with more. good morning, athena. >> good morning, chris. the often unscripted donald trump was on message yesterday talking about what he would do to defeat terrorism. he made a turn in the speech after repeatedly questioning the value of the nato alliance. he is now vowing to work with the u.s. nato partners in this fight against terrorism. clinton raising questions about his temperament, he is raising questions about her judgment and fitness for office. >> i call it is extreme, extreme vetting. >> reporter: donald trump delivering a fiery speech on his ideas for fighting radical islamic terrorism. proposing a different kind of admission test for people entering the united states.
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>> in addition to screening out all members of the sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes toward our country or its principles, or who believe that sharia law should supplant american law. those who do not believe in our constitution or who support bigotry and hatred will not be admitted for immigration into our country. >> reporter: trump calling for bans on immigration from countries with ties to terror. >> we will have to temporarily suspend immigration from some of the most dangerous and volatile regions of the world that have a history of exporting terrorism. >> reporter: and simultaneously trashing hillary clinton's capabilities. >> with one episode of bad judgment after another, hillary clinton launched isis on to the stage.
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she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis. >> reporter: the democratic trifecta, president obama, vice president biden and presidential candidate hillary clinton hitting trump on all fronts. at a dnc fund raising event monday night, president obama refusing to mention trump by name but quipping -- i don't have to make the case against her opponent because every time he talks he makes the case against his own candidacy. calderon and biden together in biden's hometown of scranton launching their preemptive attack. >> friends should not let friends vote for trump. >> this guy doesn't care about the middle class, and i don't blame him in a sense because he doesn't understand it. he doesn't have a clue. this man is totally thoroughly unqualified to be president of the united states of america. >> reporter: biden slamming trump as a threat to national security. >> there's a guy that follows me
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right back here, has the nuclear codes. so god forbid anything happen to the president and i had to make a decision, the codes are with me. he is not qualified to know the code. he can't be trusted. >> trump holds a rally in a town hall in wisconsin today while calderon spends another day in pennsylvania attending a voter registration event in philadelphia. meanwhile, in a sign of confidence, priorities usa, the super pac supporting clinton now says it's not going to air any local ads in virginia, colorado or pennsylvania through most of september. the 2nd through the 20th, saying in a statement we know at the moment these are tough states for donald trump and there isn't as much of a need for us to air ads there. chris? alisyn. >> thank you very much athena. lot to discuss. let's do it. cnn analyst jackie kucinich.
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cnn-manu raju. and clarissa ward. jackie, in terms of what trump needed to do here, meat on the bones. do you think he did enough to distinguish himself from one liners in policy? >> this was definitely a more policy-laiden speech than other trump speeches then again other trump speeches. i don't know if there was a lot of meat on the bones. there were a lot of ideas but he didn't fill them out at all. it seems like another speech to trump supporters. i don't know this expanded his reach with other voters, particularly that line about the extreme test for immigrants. that isn't targeted to broadening the republican base. that's directed solely to the folks who already support donald trump. >> help us understand what the process is. is donald trump right that there could be better vetting of refugees or do they already have what they consider extreme vetting in terms of painstaking process? how does it work?
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>> well, i think the u.s. is very well known for having one of the most stringent vetting processes that there is. as a result, the u.s. has only taken 8,000 syrian refugees as compared to the more than 800,000 that germany alone has taken. so, the idea that you would have some kind of a questionnaire really just beggars belief, to me, alisyn, if i'm an isis operative, i'm not going to fill in a questionnaire saying i hate america. i want to hurt americans, and implement sharia law. so i'm not exactly sure how this questionnaire or this vetting process would work, but suffice it to say that isis operatives are at least sophisticated enough, i would think, to be able to handle that kind of questioning fairly adeptly. and that is the entire problem. he talked very broadly about we must just ban recruitment, stop recruitment. well, that sounds like a great idea. how do we do it?
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his suggestion was to shut down the internet in certain parts of the world. i don't think it's logistically feasible. beyond that, i would venture to say that our security services glean a lot of their intelligence from information that they gather online. so, as you just heard from jackie, a mishmash of ideas coming through, but none of them really seeming clearly to me to make the case for better security. >> clarissa, as you reported to us many times, the irony here is that the vetting for refugees from places like syria is the most exhaustive. as another layer of u.n. vetting as well than typically entry into the u.s. manu, how about the political score here? it was clear intention by donald trump to put a lot of blame for the current status of what's going on in iran and iraq specifically with isis on obama. how effective? >> well, i think that's an open question. i mean, clearly part of this, too, chris, was a design to show that donald trump has the
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experience and temperament to lead this country. remember, not only are polls showing that hillary clinton is viewed as someone who could be a commander in chief, not donald trump. increasingly so donald trump question and approval rating is slipping on that specific issue. but also the foreign policy establishment, 50 republican national security officials coming out last week saying that donald trump cannot lead this country in a time of pearl louse world. time of so many national security issues. donald trump trying to reverse that. that is really the open question here. how much did he bring on not just reach out to those independents, convince folks that obama and calderon are to blame here, but also to convince his own party whether or not they could get behind him. yesterday it was interesting, chris and alisyn, we did not hear a lot from the republican foreign policy establishment from members of congress. there was a deafening silence from a lot of members of his own party. it really just shows the
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challenge that donald trump has in selling folks on a lot of those ideas. particularly on that issue of vetting the extreme vetting of immigrants coming to this country. it does not sound like the muslim travel ban, but in a lot of ways it's a lot broader than the muslim travel ban. that's what gives a lot of those folks in the republican foreign policy establishment and members of congress a lot of pause. so lot of questions about whether or not he was able to bring on his own party and reach out to some of those independents. >> well, we heard from joe biden yesterday. he made the case again as hillary clinton has that donald trump should not have his sort of finger on the button. and joe biden also talked about a guy who follows him around. so let's listen one more time to what joe biden said. >> there's a guy that follows me, right back here, as the nuclear codes. so god forbid anything happened to the president i had to make a decision, the codes are with me. he is not qualified to know the code.
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he can't be trusted. i was proud my son beau served for a year in iraq. came back a highly decorated soldier. i must tell you -- i must tell you, had donald trump been president i would have thrown my body in front of him. >> what did you think of the effectiveness of biden's speech? >> not only is joe biden sort of not so secret weapon for hillary clinton when it comes to blue collar workers, he has a wealth of foreign policy as well as being vice president for almost eight years and in the senate. he was very effective particularly to the audience he was speaking to. i would not be surprised to see joe biden in several rust states and midwest. he was one of the only speakers solely dedicated to speaking to the blue collar vote that has so far been resistant to hillary clinton. >> so we have clinton now with biden making the case that trump
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cannot keep you safe. trump and his supporter's cases that clinton and obama have not kept you safe. rudy giuliani came out very strong on this, drawing controversy because of some context that he provided in his statement. here it is. >> remember, we didn't start this war. they did. we don't want this war. they do. under those eight years before obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical islamic terrorist attack in the united states. they all started when clinton and obama got into office. >> now, clarissa, the obvious problem is that rudy giuliani knows better than most the question about 9/11. the question is why doesn't he include that in his analysis of all of this and the idea that this all started under obama's watch. what do you make of it? >> well, first of all, let's be
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clear. isis actually began in a military prison camp run but the u.s. in iraq. that is where the al qaeda zel lots for the first time were being held in the same corridors. you had this toxic brew that was made between ideological zel lots and people who knew something about state running. it happened in camp bu ka before president obama and secretary clinton entered on the scene. you heard in trump's speech yesterday that he is trying to lay blame for the entire arab spring at the feet of obama and clinton. the arab spring was the result of decades and decades of political repression in that region. this is not something that america single handedly somehow cultivated. and the other thing that we heard coming from trump was that we should be, in fact, cooperating more with these
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brutal dictators. in fact, he seemed nostalgic to the hay day of the middle eastern dictators. i think he also upheld syria and libya. these are the classic examples of the failure of the obama administration's policies. they're very different. in libya, you had an intervention and disastrous consequences. syria, you had no intervention with even more disastrous consequences. syria, by the way, is where isis has really taken on a whole new life. >> panel, stick around. we have much more to talk to you about. but first, we want to get to some good news because the olympic games, there's been many dramatic finishes and here is another one. this was the women's 400 meter sprint. and the bohemian, shaunae miller dove for the finish line edging out allyson felix. coy wire is live in rio with
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more. tell us all the highlights, coy. >> good morning. simone biles takes the bronze. the positive not taking the fourth straight gold, we now know he is human. so bronze in the beam competition. that adds to the u.s.'s tally. let's get you your medal count on "new day." usa leads the way with 75. china in second with 46. great britain in third with 41 but the thing everyone is talk about, allyson felix and shaunae miller the baja mama ma with the finish line dra match running sensation allyson felix setting out for gold the favorite to win the 400 meter final. in the home stretch, shaunae miller diving across the finish line, denying felix taking home the silver, allyson becomes the most decorated u.s. women in
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track and field history. >> god has been so good to get me this far. it's been a fight all season. i just gave it all i had tonight. it will be tough. just try to pick myself up. >> all eyes were on simone biles in the beam finals. in a crowd shocking moment she loses her balance, touching the beam. a deduction that cost her the gold. laurie hernandez delivering a nearly perfect routine, landing the silver. the netherlands, unexpectedly taking home the gold. meanwhile, michael phelps soaking in the rest of his time here in rio, reflecting on what he has said are his fifth and final olympic games. >> what's been the most impactful memory from these games thus far? >> having my son here is the best. being able to share this moment with him in my last olympics. i'm looking forward to sharing these memories when he gets old enough. in a couple years hopefully i'll get a chance to take him to tokyo and watch some events over
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there. >> reporter: greatest olympian of all time, michael phelps set to retire again after his fifth and final olympic games. let's show you what we have to look forward to today. 25 gold medals up for grabs. last time we see simone biles compete in rio. she'll be in the floor exercise with fellow american and reigning olympic champ aly raisman. we'll see the 110 meter hurdles. devin allen is one of the favorites there and huge beach volleyball semis final match of kerri walsh jennings and april ross taking the team from brazil. it will be rocking here at copacabana. >> wow. you'll see usain bolt run in his heat for the 200, right, coy? >> that's exactly right. i think he might break 19 seconds. we'll see, man. >> that's the drama. i forgot how much i love track because i got so distracted by the gymnastics and the pool. >> right. >> you have to see the fastest people in the whole world whipping around that oval. it's amazing. >> the olympics are great, but
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coy's wrapups are just as great. >> coy is the rhymen' diamond. really is. >> i love that about him. we want to talk about the policy also have to talk about the politics that play in the election right now. donald trump's campaign chairman paul manafort is under investigation in ukraine. did paul manafort receive secret cash payments from that country's former pro-russian regime? he says no. but that is only the beginning of what is going to be investigated about him. also, on the clinton side of the ball, new more e-mails from calderon's private server. what do they tell us? a closer look next. energy is a complex challenge. people want power. and power plants account for more than a third of energy-related carbon emissions. the challenge is to capture the emissions before they're released into the atmosphere. exxonmobil is a leader in carbon capture. our team is working to make this technology better, more affordable so it can reduce emissions around the world.
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you crane yan authorities investigating donald trump's campaign chairman paul manafort for allegedly receiving illegal payments from the country's former pro-russia ruling party. let's talk about it with our panel. we want to bring back jackie kucinich, manu raju and clarissa ward. how big of a political issue is this investigation now into paul manafort and whether or not he actually received $12.7 million
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illegally in these cash payments that were found in this off the books black ledger, so-called. what's happening? what are the ripples about this in washington? >> well, i think lot of folks are watching very anxiously. i mean, paul manafort, of course, denies any wrong doing. he criticizes that new york times report. he said he did not receive any cash payment. but really what it does, alisyn, it shows a relationship or ties or however you want to call it between donald trump and russia that a lot of republicans frankly find unsettling. i mean, donald trump has praised vladimir putin repeatedly, calling him a strong leader. and at the same time as people like house speaker paul ryan have called vladimir putin a thug and people like john mccain have criticized vladimir putin. it showcases a level that folks are not comfortable with. we'll see where this investigation goes.
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of course, paul manafort says it's much ado about nothing but does bring that relationship back into the spotlight. something a lot of folks in trump's own party are frankly not comfortable with. >> clarissa, this $12 million, this ledger may be a bit of a distraction. the true currency here are the contracts. ukraine, jankovic, there was an entirely separate investigate into moving money for russian oligarchs and how deep does it go? that wound up raising the eyebrows when you saw the trump campaign got involved with changing the republican platform on ukraine. then those lines in the speech yesterday about working with russia and that russia told us about the boston bomber. it's all seen in a different context now. how deep might those contacts go? >> well, chris, let's start out by looking at victor yanukovych and what kind of a man and what kind of a president he was. this is someone who was jailed
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twice before becoming president for assault and for theft. this is somebody who rigged an election. this is somebody who was very well known to be one of the most rampantly corrupt leaders. this is somebody who ordered his own police to fire upon protesters after people came down to the square as part of an uprising against his corruption, up to 100 people were killed in the revolution. and i actually visited his home, his estate. i should call it a mini versailles just outside of the kiev in the days after that protest movement was attempted to be quashed by him and he had left the country. this versailles, to be honest, it looks like donald trump's properties. you're talking about swarovski crystal embedded, private elevators, millions and millions of dollars of ukrainian money that had been funneled and
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embezzled. on top of that, you're talking about very deep contacts in the very murky waters of putin's inner circle. one of the most notorious russian oligarchs slash gangsters who has very close ties to president putin. so what does this really say about the kind of foreign policy that donald trump would like to espouse and the kind of people that he would like to consort with and to support? because as you heard just now, he has many times come out and said that president putin is a good man. he seems to be frankly indifferent to his invasion of crimea, which by the way was part of ukraine a sovereign country. this kind of nostalgia for the hay day of the brutal dictator. even if those $12.7 million are not an issue, the very deep association does raise serious moral questions. >> clarissa, you painted quite a
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picture of yanukovych's world for us. let's talk about possibly thorny issues on the side side of the aisle and that's hillary clin n clinton. this conservative watchdog group, judicial watch, has gotten their hands on more state department e-mails from hillary clinton. lots of people have said the public is over the e-mail issue. they've put that to rest, but if something is revealed -- >> that's the thing. >> if there's content in there the public could turn on their interest again. >> that's the thing. maybe they're bored about hearing about please print and maybe some murky connections between clinton's staffers and possibly clinton foundation. that said, if there is a smoking gun in these e-mails and the fact that the drip, drip, drip continues, that means the issue is still out there. that means it's not going away for hillary clinton. in terms of the notes they're
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getting, you have to imagine that the oversight committee will be matching up to what she said to the fbi to her testimony to the benghazi committee. if they don't match up, particularly with the ben zba si committee, that's another can of worms that will keep perhaps an investigation but certainly the conversation going. >> but at the end of the day, there was no -- there was a decision not to prosecute by the fbi, so the question is this can only be a political crime at the end of the day. they'll never be able to reinstitute this idea that she should be on trial. >> what if there is new material. >> there's new material the judicial watch has. that would mean that the fbi missed it and we're going to find it? you know what, they spent a year on this. >> the thing is judicial watch said these were previously unreleased e-mails. >> unreleased to us, not to the fbi. >> that doesn't mean there won't be an appearance.
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>> that's not a crime. >> it's not a crime but in terms of the public, the appearance of wrong doing is just as bad. >> the appearance of wrong doing is the new bar, they won't like anything that comes out of the d.c. >> such is the election. >> exactly right. it should be outlawed. >> panel, thank you very much. in terms of the substance of the campaign, we did the libertarians, obviously we did the big two parties. how about the green party? want to get to know their candidates. jill stine, a doctor and her running mate will be with her in a live cnn town hall tonight. real people, real issues about the green party and what they want out of this election to them. back to one of our top stories we've been following this deadly once in a century flooding in louisiana. nearly half the parishes in the state could be declared disaster areas. the rivers are still rising. we have a live report on the status for you next. she spent summer binge-watching.
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catastrophic flooding in louisiana causing at least nine deaths. thousands of homes, of course, are damaged and the worse may not be over. we are live in baton rouge with more. how is it looking, boris? >> reporter: hey, good morning, alisyn. still not looking good. six of the nine fatalities came from this area in east baton rouge. the danger is far from over. there's still back water flooding. i'll get out of the way so you can see some of it in this neighborhood in east baton rouge. there's several feet of water here and the quality of the water has changed drastically over the past two days. it's gone from being somewhat clear rainwater to being very, very murky. there's debris in the water. it's translucent. you know there are chemicals inside. it's a very precarious situation still days out from the rainfall that we've seen here. aside from that, we've learned about a very tragic incident where a firefighter taking part in a search and rescue operation
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accidentally shot a first responder. his firearm went off and now that first responder is in critical condition. there are still tens of thousands of people in shelters and they have very serious needs that you may not even consider. baby formula, pet food, horse feed. so there's still a long way to go before things are back to normal in louisiana. chris? >> boris, thank you very much. appreciate the reporting. we will check back with you. now let's go to milwaukee. 10:00 p.m. curfew for ten teena. it isn't over. a police station and the city sherman park neighborhood had to be shut down briefly on monday because of threats and shots fired in the area. there are 100 national guard members on hand in case they're needed. protesters did take to the streets after a police officer shot and killed an armed black man this weekend. that's what started this cycle. >> a brooklyn man now charged in that murder of a new york city mom and his assistant, police
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already had oscar morel in custody for a hit and run car crash. detectives say they connected morel to the killings after finding the murder weapon inside a wall in his home. imam and his assistant were gunned down on the street of prayers of the mosque. police say there is still no motive. so, how is the war on terror really going? well, donald trump unveiling his plan to wipe out isis and keep extremists out of the country. how will it work? we explore that next. ppable. and with extended range lte it reaches farther than ever. from the powder to the pavement, skylines, coastlines, out in the country, deep in the city. we got you covered. 311 million americans and counting. and we won't stop. come see why t-mobile is the #1 recommended wireless company in america.
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a girl discovered magic. a revolution began. welcome, to the wonders that happen, everyday. welcome, to it all. comcast. a big part of the question in this election is, of course, keeping us safe, national security focussed on the war on terrorists, specifically isis. there's two propositions coming out of the trump campaign. trump's plan will turn it around. joining us now we have phil mudd and former cia counterterrorism official and sean parnell, the
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author of "outlaw platoon" a spokesperson for concerned veterans for america. gentlemen, couldn't think of a better panel for this discussion. let's put up facts for people to provide context. first we have, who is doing the bombing. out of these 14,000 bombs you hear a lot about this, trump said he would bomb a lot more, other people say it's not targeted enough. this is the commitment of the u.s. right now, 11 out of 14,000 is them, the other coalition doing 3,000. it's about 2 1/2 to 1 bombing in iraq instead of syria. why? well, there are a lot of reasons for that. you have a lot of different geographical constraints and also have population concerns that's driving those decisions and we'll get more contexts from the guests in a second on that. how much is this costing you? money matters, right? $8.6 billion so far, just about $12 million a day. are you getting your money's worth becomes the question. so let's discuss.
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let's start first with the xs and os of what's going on here. captain, the idea that it's not working, isis is winning. we see that because of all the terror attacks around the world. is that a fair appraisal? >> well, i think if we use the cia director's own testimony to congress, he himself agrees that their operation capabilities have not been impeded at all. i think primarily because a strategic bombing and air campaign is largely ineffective unless followed up with ground troops to exploit objectives and bolstered intelligence capabilities on the ground to make sure we're exploiting human intelligence on the ground to make sure we're taking out the right people. >> so the trick here, phillip mudd, you construct us all the time, you cannot bomb away terror. you cannot bomb away isis. you cannot bomb away hate. there is complexity to this that doesn't play well in a campaign.
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so, when you look at the war against isis, how do you analyze what is the success to failure ratio? >> i think we're doing okay, particularly if you compare low point in 2014, chris. look, let's get away from politics and deal with facts which we don't do in washington, d.c. when you assess a terror organization, let me give you four, five facts. do they control geography? isis has lost significant geography in both sere yria and iraq. what about recruits? fewer americans are going to fight wie sis. what about ideology? isis itself is telling recruits don't come to syria, presumably because there's no place in syria for them to train or few places. stay home and attack. i think that's because isis is on the defensive. so you can paint a picture, as mr. trump did, of a negative isis campaign, looking at the characteristics, though and taking facts, i don't see how you can say that we're in a worse place in 2016 than we were
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in 2014. >> captain, what do you think about the idea of bombing the hell out of them as an improvement in the situation? would carpet bombing, as that term was loosely used during the republican primary, what we're hearing from trump right now is let's bomb a lot more. let's find any ally who wants to go after isis, even if it's russia, and let's call them an ally for this purpose. that would make things better. do you agree? >> no. no. i think that russia has very, very different gio political goals in the region. and i think that bombing just for bombing's sake does not work. as the other guests on here with me said, you can bomb them all you want, they're really not going to go away unless you focus on the ideology itself. one of the ways to do that is focus on local communities here at home by working in the local communities with political leaders, police officers and local islamic refer mags leaders
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to thwart the ideology here at home. >> phillip mudd, donald trump says says we're getting out of this regime change business. people like you have told me for years, that's more important than the military part of this campaign that you don't create stable democracies in these countries you are basically giving a good fertile ground work for extremism. which is right? do you nation build or do you not? >> i am so irritable, chris, this morning. >> uh-oh. >> let's be clear, big ugly. let me tell you what's going on. we went into afghanistan in 2001 and left early and people said if we had stayed and helped them, maybe we would not have the resurgence of the taliban we have today. it's not whether you want a nation built. i pay a lot of taxes. i don't like it. it's whether you create an environment of instability or allow an environment of instability where people like the taliban and isis emerge. where has isis emerged?
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where has collide emerged? yemen, afghanistan, iraq, syria, libya, every place there's instability where nations fail, isis emerges. you want to say you don't want a nation built, i have a question for you, what will you do when there's a vacuum isis moves into? you make your choice. trump says we're not going to be there. if you let nations fail, we've seen what happens. >> phillip mudd, thank you very much. captain sean parnell, i see you agree with phillip mudd. when he said the big ugly, he was referring to me, not you and not donald trump. >> that's phil's pet name for you. he uses it often. >> yes. coming up is donald trump's style hurting fellow republicans who are running for office. we go one on one with new hampshire senator kelly ayotte to discuss her strategy ahead on "new day." to great. this week sharpie twelve-packs just three dollars.
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so everything donald trump says and does on the campaign trail could impact down-ballot candidates. one of those candidates is new hampshire senator kelly ayotte. she is trying to stave off a fierce challenge for her seat up there in new hampshire. will the so-called trump effect help or hurt her chances? cnn senior political reporter manu raju sat down with the snrt and her opponent. tell us about it. >> reporter: hey, chris. kelly ayotte has gone to great lengths to distance herself from donald trump on a range of
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issues. she campaigned on that. not afraid to break from her party's leadership and showcase herself as an independent in this fiercely independent state. i talked to her about her relationship with the party's nominee. it's very clear that her relationship is a tepid one. six years ago new hampshire senator kelly ayotte wrote an anti-obama waive into office. now she is battling the head winds caused by her own party's nominee, donald trump. you're saying you support donald trump. you do not endorse him? >> i've actually said that i'm going to be voting for him, but i do have significant disagreements with him which i've been very clear on him. so i won't be endorsing him. that's my position. >> reporter: what's the distinction between endorsing and voting? >> there's actually a big distinction. everyone gets to vote. i do, too. and, you know, but an endorsement is one where i'm out campaigning with someone. so, while he has my vote, he doesn't have my endorse pt and
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i'm going to continue to focus on really my race. >> so you won't be campaigning with donald trump if he comes out here? >> listen, i'll be campaigning in the senate race. >> thanks for volunteering. that's excellent. >> reporter: she is aggressively campaigning up and down the state, key for saving her seat and helping republicans hang on to the senate majority. with democrats only needing a handful of senate seats to take back power, they're seizing on trump's growing unpopularity in battleground states like new hampshire where the gop nominee is down 15 points in a recent poll. >> hi, governor. >> hi. >> that has democratic senate democrat maggie hassen linking ayotte to trump. >> she says she is voting for him but is not going to endorse him? >> i think people should hear that statement for what it is. she is trying to have it both ways. i don't think any elected leader who is supporting donald trump for the presidency should hold office. >> reporter: meanwhile, hassen, who served as the state's
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governor since 2013 is eager to align herself with the top of her ticket. >> on ward to victory in november. >> reporter: speaking at a rally for clinton's running mate tim kaine. they believe clinton is not honest or trustworthy and asked three times hassan would not give her opinion. >> do you think she is honest and trustworthy? >> i support hillary clinton for the presidency because her experience and her record demonstrate she is qualified to hold the job. >> reporter: do you think she is honest? >> she has a critical, critical plan among others for making college more affordable. >> but do you think that she is trustworthy? >> i think she has demonstrated a commitment always to something beyond herself, bigger than herself. >> reporter: after this interview, hassan's campaign clarifying she does believe clinton is honest. for her part, when asked, ayotte won't say if she trusts trump with his finger on the nuclear button.
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>> what worries me and what i don't trust is continuing the foreign policy that we've been under, under this administration, and that will be continued by hillary clinton. >> reporter: ayotte has sparred periodically on issues like his call for a muslim travel ban and fight with a gold star family so much so that trump called ayotte weak only to backtrack and announce his support for her a few days later. >> hey, listen, i call it like i see it. when he criticized me, i just said very clearly, which i'm going to continue to do, whether i have his endorsement or not, it's going to be about calling it like i see it for the people of new hampshire. whether it's my own party or the opposite party, if they're doing something that i don't agree with, that i don't think is right for new hampshire, i'll stand up to them, but i'll also work with them to get things done. >> reporter: suggesting trump should release his tax returns. >> i think that it's really in the presidential race it's better to release them, but he's got to make that call.
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>> reporter: is there anything that he could do to force you to not vote for him? >> well, you know, like anyone, i think you constantly re-evalua re-evaluate. so, i can say that for any position, the election is in november. >> you could work with secretary clinton if she became president. >> absolutely. i'll work with anyone. >> how many ayottes are there out there, manu, republicans, who have to either confidently or grudgingly say, yes, trump is our guy, but i have my own ideas? >> reporter: roughly about half a dozen, chris. not everyone uses that same terminology, saying they're willing to support him but not endorse him. really only one other republican senate candidate is in addition to ayotte and that's wisconsin's ron johnson. others are willing to be more closely aligned with him, like richard burr in north carolina. but some don't want to campaign with donald trump including john mccain in the difficult senate race in arizona.
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really only one republican has -- up in a tough senate re-election race has rescinded his endorsement, mark kirk in illinois in the very blue state. one reason why is they absolutely need these donald trump supporters to come out at the end of the day. while they be concerned with trump's rhetoric, putting off the independent and mod ratd voters, they need those core sporters to come out in the polls in november. a real bind for a lot of these members, chris. >> thank you very much for giving us this insight into the process. appreciate it. there's a lot of news this morning coming out of the election and from around the world, so let's get right to it. hillary clinton's policies launched isis on to the world stage. >> this man is totally, thoroughly unqualified to be president. >> we could find common ground with russia in the fight against isis. wouldn't that be a good thing? >> a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man you can
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trust. >> hillary clinton wants to be america's angela merkel. it is a catastrophe. >> these are the greatest moments of my life so far. >> a photo finish in rio. >> the american allyson felix and shaunae miller with the finish line drama. >> simone biles golden streak comes to an end. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and allison cam rat toe. >> so much winning for the u.s. but i'm not getting sick of it, not yet. good morning. welcome to your "new day." we begin with donald trump's plan to defeat isis. did he put enough meat on the bones when he called for what he says is extreme vetting of immigrants to keep terrorists out of the usa? but the plan is thin on details about how he would do that. >> trump avoiding his previous false claim that president obama and hillary clinton founded isis, but he did say that their policies led to the rise of the
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terror group. vice president joe biden went after trump as, quote, a danger to national security. so let's begin with athena jones live in washington with more. give us all the latest, athena. >> reporter: good morning. the usually unscripted trump was on target yesterday. he made a turn in the speech after repeatedly questioning the value of the nato alliance. he is now vowing to work with the u.s. nato partners in this fight against terrorism. with clinton and her allies raising questions about his temperament, he is now trying to raise doubts about her judgment and fitness for office. >> i call it extreme, extreme vetting. >> reporter: donald trump delivering a fiery speech on his ideas for fighting radical islamic terrorism. proposing a different kind of admission test for people entering the united states. >> in addition to screening out all members of the sympathizers
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of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles, or who believe that sharia law should supplant american law. those who do not believe in our constitution or who support bigotry and hatred will not be admitted for immigration into our country. >> reporter: trump calling for bans on immigration from countries with ties to terror. >> we will have to temporarily suspend immigration from some of the most dangerous and volatile regions of the world. that have a history of exporting terrorism. >> reporter: and simultaneously trashing hillary clinton's capabilities. >> with one episode of bad judgment after another, hillary clinton's policies launched isis on to the world stage. she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on
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isis. >> reporter: the democratic trifecta, president obama, vice president biden and presidential candidate hillary clinton hitting trump on all fronts. at a dnc fundraising event monday night, president obama refusing to mention trump by name, but quipping -- i don't have to make the case against her opponent because every time he talks he makes the case against his own candidacy. clinton and biden together in biden's hometown of scranton launching their preemptive attack. >> friends should not let friends vote for trump. >> this guy doesn't care about the middle class. and i don't even blame him in a sense because he doesn't understand it. he doesn't have a clue. this man is totally, thoroughly unqualified to be president of the united states of america. >> reporter: biden slamming trump as a threat to national security. >> there's a guy that follows me right back here has the nuclear
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codes. so god forbid anything happened to the president and i had to make a decision, the codes are we me all -- he is not qualified to know the code. he can't be trusted! >> reporter: now, trump holds a rally in a town hal in wisconsin today. clinton spends another day in pennsylvania attending a voter registration in philadelphia. priorities usa, the super pac supporting clinton says it's not going to air any local ads in virginia, colorado or pennsylvania through most of september. september 2nd through the 20th, saying in a statement, we know at the moment these are tough states for donald trump and there isn't as much of a need for us to air ads there. alisyn. >> athee that, thank you for that. do you want to add anything to your title?
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>> that's good. >> excellent. >> thank you. >> ladies, thank you so much for being here. christine, let me start with you, donald trump is calling for extreme vetting. do you think that he is right in that the u.s. could do a better job of figuring out who the refugees are and what's in their head before they come into the country? >> nobody is ever going to say you can't do a better job at anything. anybody who says that is ridiculous. you can always do a better job, but that's not the case in what he's talking about. first of all, we don't know what extreme, extreme, extreme vetting to quote him means. >> he's saying ask them more questions, ask them about their ideological positions. >> it smacks completely of mccarthyism and in fact runs counter to the constitution. >> why? why not ask people if they do have extremist feelings? >> first of all, let's be realistic, what person with extreme views who is coming here to try to commit acts of terror is going to write it down on a piece of paper?
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his statements yesterday without real specifics again with smacks of mccarthyism, with overtones of hypocrisy in my opinion, anti-gay president are trying to keep anti-gay people out and the ridiculous idea that people will go, yes, i'm a terrorist on a piece of paper it shows he doesn't understand the complexity, the depths of the issues, understand our constitution and it's just not qualified. >> hold on. go ahead, betsy. >> first of all, let me point out that hillary clinton appears to want to the be the angela merkel of the united states -- >> what does that mean? >> bringing in over 6,000 refugees from around syria. >> that's not the number -- >> yes. she has proposed a radical increase. let me tell you -- >> from 10,000 this year to i think that she proposed 65,000. >> no. that is a fact put out by the trump campaign that is inaccurate. >> let me tell out what the
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danger is. number one, rape. when you look at what's happening across europe, women and young girls are being gang raped by syrian and muslim refugees who claim that it's because these women were scantily dressed. number two -- >> what's your source? >> oh, i've brought press reports. it's in the european papers weekly. these gang rapes of women in germany and switzerland and sweden. it's well known there and well documented. secondly, james comey, head of the fbi has warned that because we cannot properly vet these people, inviting them in in large numbers would create what he calls in his words a terrorism -- number three -- >> let me stop you on the james comey one. we have the quote from him right here. there is some risk of bringing anyone from the outside especially from a conflict zone. i think we developed an effective way to touch all of
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the data bases and resources to figure out what we know about these individuals. >> that is a distortion. >> i'm quoting it. this is a direct quote. he says i don't think it's a cumbersome process. my concern is that there are certain gaps. >> that's right. it only takes one. no, there's no reason to take the risk. and the third problem is this -- >> let no one in then? >> yes, for a while. >> no one from those regions. >> how do you define those regions? >> regions -- >> france fall into that region now? >> could i please finish now? >> what are the regions? >> we outlined them in the speech yesterday. they include regions that are largely populated by extreme radical muslims -- >> such as? >> such as syria, libya, lebanon, those are some of the regions. >> halt any immigration. >> that's right. >> there's no reason for the muslim ban, basically. you say trump has gone back to the muslim ban? >> no, i'm not saying what trump
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has done. i'm saying that would be a prudent thing to do. let me get to number three. >> go ahead. >> which is the huge economic burden you look at for example little mogadishu which is a region outside of minneapolis populated by smol yan refugees, 60% of the working refugees are working and on welfare. why invite hundreds of thousands of more people to burden us more? we should take care of the people already here. >> let me start at the end there. that's a fact exactly what the statue of liberty says on her -- >> no. >> governor, you ask for people to be quiet when you spoke, i ask for the same courtesy. that's what we're about as a country, america. it's based on inviting people in who want freedom, who need support. beyond that with all due respect to the lieutenant governor, her commentary was just riddled with facts that were inaccurate. and really, we're talking about
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in the case of the fbi director koe comey, he works for republicans, democrats and is above reproach. the statement read is correct. that's what he said. >> but it's only part of the statement. >> he is not gone as far as what you've said. he said there are certain gaps. we all agree on. >> we can't afford those gaps. >> nothing is risk free. >> there is no reason to take the risk when american lives are at stake. look at the meme who suffered in the boston marathon bombing. >> can i ask you a question. >> go ahead. >> are you saying as a representative of the trump campaign -- >> i'm a supporter, not a representative. >> as a supporter, are you telling me in as much as you listened to yesterday's speech. >> which i thought was superb. >> whatever. you're saying that we should not let people in, your interpretation of his speech is we should not let people in from those countries that are primarily the muslim countries. >> until we can thoroughly vet them, we should have a temporary suspension on refugees from countries that pose an enormous
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risk. >> i want to move on to something rudy giuliani said. thoroughly vetting is asking more questions. >> and checking their facebook postings if we have access to those. we used to vet people properly. during wartime, take a look at what we did during world war ii, for example. we need to have the same kind of meticulous vetting that we did during wars because we are at war. >> i asked the governor that question because it really amplifies what i believed all along, that donald trump is just dressing up, putting lipstick on his muslim ban and that really is at the core of this. and during world war ii, we put japanese americans in intournament kamts. we need to understand our full history here. >> i'm not talking about putting people in who reside in the united states in camps. >> stronger 18 to 24 months it's gotten stronger not weaker since
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world war ii. >> people who reside in the united states protected by the constitution. those japanese americans should have been. people who live in the rest of the world are not protected by the united states constitution. they do not have a constitutional right to become american. >> hold on. i just want to bring this up because you're both new yorkers. >> yes. >> rudy giuliani was on the campaign trail with donald trump yesterday. he said something about the terror attacks here that raised people's eyebrows. listen to this -- >> remember, we didn't start this war. they did. we don't want this war. they do. under those eight years before obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical islamic terrorist attack in the united states. they all started when clinton and obama got into office. >> betsy, it seems like major giuliani is omitting a
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significant terror attack. why would he gloss over 9/11? >> i think he was referring to since 9/11, but i didn't hear the mayor's full comments. what i would like to comment on is this, there is no reason to expose americans to rape, to enormous economic hardship and to potential terrorism simply to open our doors at a time when it's not necessary. americans are charitable people, but there are limits and we have to look out for our own country first. >> christine? >> rudy giuliani and the trump campaign said they were splitting hairs, referring to this terrorist group and try thread a needle there with a camel and it's not going to happen. however they want to thread it, is fact is that rudy giuliani, who was mayor on 9/11. >> we all remember. >> the worst day in american history, we lost close to 3,000 new yorkers and we lost countless ones since because of the diseases they've gotten when
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they were working the pile and working during rescue. so for rudy giuliani in the name of some kind of campaign twist to gloss over those days that still exist in our city with the illness and the disease is just reprehensible. honestly, it goes to a low that i never would have thought even rudy giuliani would go to. you know we said never forget -- apparently rudy giuliani has on some degree forgotten that reality and gone to embracing raw politics instead. >> i can't imagine the accusation about mayor giuliani would be true. i'm sorry. i just can't. >> we will talk to him. obviously he has said that he was talking about after 9/11, it does feel like an omission for mayor rudy giuliani to omit it. let es get over to chris. to the good news the olympic games. a photo finish in the women's 400 meter sprint.
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shaunae miller dives to gold at the finish line edging out the u.s. track star allyson felix. we saw gymnastics art -- i don't know what the right perfect word is for her, coy wire will tell us how to describe simone biles the right way. what's the right way, my friend, in rio to say what simone biles has meant to the olympics? how do you put it together for me? >> reporter: skin pinching once-in-a-lifetime, outstanding, commanding, demanding simone biles has dominated down here, chris. and last night on the beam, though, she takes the bronze. and that was a big shocker. no shot at unprecedented five golds in women's gymnastics here in rio but she could still end the run with a gold in the floor tonight. that would add to the medal count for the u.s. the states lead the way with 75. china is in second with 46. great britain in third with 41. the thing that has the sports world buzzing this morning, you mentioned it the photo finish in the 400 meter final between
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allyson felix and lay it all on the line leap by miller of the bahamas, it was awesome. [ gunfire ] >> allyson felix setting out for gold, the favorite to win the 400 meter final. but in the home stretch, the bahamas shaunae miller diving across the finish line to deny felix. allyson felix taking home the silv silver. >> it wasn't there tonight. god has been so good to get he this far. it's been a fight all season. i gave it all i had tonight. it's going to be tough, you know. just going to try to pick myself up. >> reporter: all eyes were on simone biles in the beam finals. in a crowd-shocking moment she loses her balance, touching the beam. a deduction that cost her the gold. laurie hernandez outscoring biles and landing the silver.
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the netherlands unexpectedly taking home the gold. meanwhile, michael phelps soaking in the rest of his time here in rio, reflecting on what he has said are his fifth and final olympic games. >> what's been the most impactful memory from these games thus far? >> having my son here is the best. being able to share this moment with him at my last olympics. i'm looking forward to sharing these memories when he gets old enough. you know, in a couple years hopefully i'll get the chance to take him to tokyo and watch some events over there. >> all right, guys. let's go 25 golds on the grabs today. sy moan biles making her final run on the floor with aly raisman and devin allen in the 110 hurdles and april ross and kerri walsh jennings. >> i have that in common with her, mother of three.
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that's where it ends in terms of prowess. coy, thank you. we'll be watching as we know you will be. so good. it's all so thrilling. >> love it. president obama and vice president joe biden bashing toik. will their words resonate with voters? we'll examine that next. ces in y life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine. i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. breo won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours. breo contains a type of medicine that increases the risk of death from asthma problems and may increase the risk of hospitalization in children and adolescents. breo is not for people whose asthma is well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. once your asthma is well controlled, your doctor will decide if you can stop breo and prescribe a
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washington post/abc new poll out of virginia shows a growing lead for hillary clinton. 52 to 38. why she's getting this lead may be even more instructive. it is a function of trump's perceived negativity, his unpopularity as the poll puts it. is this relevant? does it matter? why? to make the case, brad woodhouse for the dnc former director. he joins us now. virginia, let me put it up against contrast. the contrast would be, virginia has been going democrat now for the last couple of cycles. you have tim kaine in there. you know, it should be this way. how do you make it a positive? >> well, look, it is definitely a positive. virginia has not been in the
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democratic column for long. the president won it in '08 and 2012. even in those races it was competitive. clearly it looks like hillary clinton is putting that away. it's one of the states that -- one of her super pacs is pulling advertising down, at least for now. but, look, chris the thing i worry about is anyone taking this race for granted. so whether in virginia, colorado, pennsylvania, wherever you are as a democrat, you can't take this race for granted this early. >> why? >> well, look, you see things change. i mean, lot of people thought that the race in 2012 was salted away, and then there was a debate in denver. the president didn't perform as well as he would have. the polls changed and we had to fight everyday after that to win that election. so, there are lot of things that can happen between now and then. look, i'm not at all convinced that donald trump is going to change. but there are circumstances obviously that will change the trajectory of an election. maybe he'll pull a surprise in
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one of debates and give all time performance. so but complacency is the killer of campaigns. so we got to fight everyday to keep turning out the vote. >> salted away is a great phrase, by the way. so what it seems here could be a strategic mistake for clinton to your point about having to stay on your game, this has descended, deinvolved and been degraded as a campaign into a battle of personal attacks. now, you can say that always happens in politics, but not in the concentrated fashion that we're seeing it right now, even with biden and clinton on the stump together. all they did was take personal shots at donald trump. given her trust numbers, given her relative unpopularity, given her negatives, do you think a battle of attrition on the personal level is the best way for clinton to go? >> look, i don't believe that's what's happening, chris. if you watch the democratic convention, you saw a narrative story there told about hillary
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clinton's life and about why she comes into these issues and why she believes so passionately for fighting for children and families. if you watch any of her speeches in total, there's an art there where she does talk about what she wants to do. she's been on an economic tour since the democratic convention, the jobs tour and she does draw contrast with donald trump, who incidentally is everyday almost entirely in his speeches attacking hillary clinton and barack obama. >> but brad -- >> yeah. >> not to make it about semantics, drawing contrast is he says he'll do this for infrastructure. i say i'll do this and it's better because dot dot dot. that's not what she's saying. she said i thought his plan would be bad for the middle class. that's worse. that's taking a shot. that's okay. it's happening. donald trump made an art form of it in this campaign. is that her best strategy given these intractable negatives that she is sporting? >> well, look, chris, if you
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look at many of the polls you start to see some of those numbers turning around for her. but look, i really believe that hillary clinton believes that donald trump is a threat to the future of the country. so i think absolutely you want to make a strong case to every voter in the country like she says tell a friend not to vote for trump. you know, i think that that is a passionate case to be made. i mean, this is someone who is making us less safe. he is being used in terrorist videos. he wants to adopt vladimir putin's foreign policies. this is someone who is a threat to the united states. so, i think it's absolutely appropriate to go out and talk about why donald trump would be a threat to the future of the country. but look, that's what the sound bites that get reported. but i sat in the green room here at cnn yesterday and watched her entire speech. she has a long, passionate proposal for jobs for debt free college, for helping families
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balance their lives and their work. so, i think there's a lot there. i think you'll see in the debates, i think you'll see her put forward a positive plan, but you have to talk about donald trump. he is a threat to america. >> how do you beat the e-mail scandal? >> look, i don't -- >> things will keep dribbling out, they'll keep showing things. we know without seeing the e-mails, there will be things in there that make people think there's a conflict of interest or it wasn't appropriate, not done the right way, how do you get away from this? >> well, look, if the media wants to obsess on it, it's something we have to talk about. understand, republicans it's kind of their last vestage here to try to insert this into the race. even the stuff we've seen recently, long-time family friend, employee, volunteering her time to conduct one intervau for the foundation, an e-mail from one aid to the other asking for a courtesy meeting? it's what goes on in washington everyday. it goes on in your business. it goes on in my business.
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i don't think anything that we've seen since comey came out and said that no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case on her e-mail server, i don't think anything we've seen is amounted to a hill of beans. so there may be a drip, drip, drip and may be this issue in the media if they're going to focus on trump and his issues that they wan to focus on this. but i don't think anything in her e-mail in the story about her e-mails or anything that's come out compares to someone who wants, you know, to use nuclear weapons in europe, saudi arabia should get a nuclear weapon, japan should become nuclearized. i think there's a lot to be said for a false equivalency here about these issues. >> one thing we learned for sure, the more positive it is, the more it's about policy. the more negative, the more we focus on that part. brad woodhouse, thank you for making the case for hillary clinton. i appreciate it. >> thank you. quick programming note not just about the democrats and republicans, you have the
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libertarian and the green party. the green party has not had its shot at a town hall yet on cnn. that will change. you'll see the two green party candidates here in a town hall tomorrow night. i'll be there. 9:00 p.m. eastern. but the questions are coming from you. alisyn. >> looking forward to watching that, chris. donald trump laying out his plans to defeat isis. trump's foreign policy adviser is here next along with our own military expert to analyze what he said. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. by choosing flonase, you're choosing more complete allergy relief and all the enjoyment that comes along with it. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances. most allergy pills only control 1. flonase controls 6. and six is greater than one. with flonase, more complete relief means enjoyment of every beautiful moment. flonase, six is greater than one, changes everything. ♪
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the time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today. i call it extreme vetting. those who do not believe in our constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be
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admitted for immigration into our country. >> that was donald trump outlining his plans to deal with terrorism and extremism around the world and here at home. so how do his plans stack up? and is the current u.s. strategy working? let's debate that. joining us now is retired lieutenant general joseph keith kellogg, foreign policy advisers with the donald trump campaign. we also have retired mark hertling, former commanding general europe and seventh army. gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. let's dive into what donald trump was saying yesterday. general hertling, i want to start with you, when you heard donald trump talk about what he called extreme vetting, include an ideological test to make sure that whoever is coming in their ideology adheres to our u.s. ideology. what was your impression? >> well, my first impression, alisyn and good morning, is that we do need immigration reform but in a smart way. and this just seemed to be a lot
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more red meat for debates to say extreme vetting and to use the word extreme three times with emphasis tells me that there wasn't a whole lot of meat behind that. i would be interested to find out exactly what extreme vetting means, because i don't know. that concerns me by a lot because it considers elements of the constitution, which i'm sure are going to be violated by these extreme vetting. >> so general kellogg, you're advising donald trump. what does extreme vetting mean? >> well, good morning, alisyn and good morning, mark, how are you, sir? >> good morning, keith. >> as mark said, it needs to be developed going further. when you look at the speech yesterday, there was an important verb that we used right at the start. and it was the beginning of a new dialogue. when you talk about a beginning of a new dialogue, things have to be built going forward. when you look at where we have been in the past ten years plus, when you look at thousands of great young americans killed and wounded in action, great
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american soldiers, sailors or airmen and marines, look at trillions of dollars spent, look at famed states, look at all that going on, we can do better and need to look at ways to do better. we need to begin the dialogue. begin means a start. >> yeah, yeah. general kellogg, i want to stick with you for one second. >> sure. >> the u.s. is already doing much of what donald trump had proposed there. let me just read to you some of the things that the u.s. does. current u.s. natchization law requires adherence otoprinciples of the u.s. constitution and rejects advocates of a variety of ideological positions as well as those with proclivities in the judgment of immigration officials to commit various crimes. so, already there is -- for lack of a better term ideological test to make sure that people adhere to the u.s. constitution. what's different? >> well, i think we need to develop that and mark is right at that, as we go forward. i think we need to have a very robust way of looking at people coming into the country. immigration is tough.
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my daughter-in-law is going through the immigration process as we speak. it's a tough process. >> yeah. >> but i think we need to carry it even further. when you talk about ideological tests that adds to it as well. again, it's a developing dialogue. i think instead of grasping at one word, we need to look at the whole process. >> yeah. >> we talk about the speech yesterday, we're focussed on this whole concept of the ideology and of the vetting. >> yeah. >> i think it's much broader than that and needs to be addressed like that. >> okay. >> this is a very, very important issue, national security. i happen to believe the commander in chief test, national security test is the most important test we need to look at going forward. >> yes. uh-huh. >> i've got skin in the game. mark's got skin in the game. i've got kids in the military. >> mark's got kids in the military. >> right. >> i've got friends who are in the military. so this is an important test. and i don't think you should just narrow it and talk about immigration. it's a very comprehensive view of going forward. and i think we need to have that dialogue. >> sure.
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that is what we're trying to do and trying to get to specifics. general hertling, are you hearing enough specifics? >> i am not, alisyn. that's what concerns me. some of the things that were in the speech yesterday, it was somewhat disjointed. i'm a big fan of keith kellogg. we served together on the joint staff on 9/11, we were both in the pentagon on that day. what's interesting over the last several years i've been in combat, a lot of our interpreters, the people who fought next to our soldiers are now trying to find a better life in the united states. they're going through that 18 to 24-month long process. they are the ones coming from the so-called muslim nations that mr. trump is saying we shouldn't admit, we should stop and re-evaluate how they're coming in. these are guys that fought alongside me. they can't get in. we're constantly having conversations with our congress and our senate about making sure that these individuals who serve not only their country but our country are allowed into the united states for better life. you know, you mentioned last
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hour, alisyn, the statue of liberty. you know, on the base of that liberty statue it says give me your tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to be free. i lift my life aside the golden door. i want to make sure that light is still lit for those individuals still looking for a better life. i don't think mr. trump's extreme vetting process is going to guarantee that. >> general kellogg, your response to that? >> well, mark brings up a wonderful point, but i think we are a nation of laws. immigration is important. we're a nation of immigrants. i'm a grandson of immigrants coming into this country. i made the comment earlier about my daughter-in-law is going through the immigration process as we speak. but it's important we do it correctly. it's important we do it through laws and effective following of the regulations that's out there. but i think it's bigger than this. i think, mark, we're focussed right now, you and i are focussed and both national security guys, focussed on
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immigration as we talk about it. i think it's a much broader view. i think we need to talk about that. that speech yesterday was a much, much broader look at the security situation we have going forward. i happen to think, my guy, has got the temperament to be the commander in chief. i happen to think my guy's got it right. if you want to continue the process of the past, the past ten years, then you've got an option. take that option. i happen to think my guy is a black swan candidate. he is not a politician. he has been a businessman and gives us a change opportunity. i think we need to go there. i don't think we should focus on one small piece of the speech. it was a very comprehensive speech and will be developed as we go forward and need to look at it that way. >> we are trying to focus in on the specifics to try to get our minds around what it is that donald trump is calling for, but general kellogg, general hertling, we appreciate you coming on to begin that process and that conversation today. we will get more specifics going forward. gentlemen, thank you both for your service and for being here. >> thanks, alisyn.
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>> good to sees you keith. >> chris? >> very helpful to have people so senior, so wise in the ways of these policies giving you their take. we have more of that. there's more than 100 influential republicans sending an open letter to the rnc urging that the party cut off funding to trump. and we've never seen anything like this in a modern election. where are they saying they want the money spent? the man who organized the de-fund trump effort joins us next to make the case for why what he is proposing is better for his party next. ...clear for take off.
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♪ more than 100 top republicans urging the rnc to stop spending any money on donald trump. they all signed an open letter that argues, quote, only the immediate shift of all available rnc resources to vulnerable house and senate races will prevent the gop from drowning with a trump-emblazonened anchor around its neck. let's bring in andrew weinstein, he is circulating the letter and former republican congressman of minnesota tom coleman who signed this letter.
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how is this good for your party, andrew, trying to go after the man at the top? >> well, we think it's actually not going after the man at the top. this is doing something inevitable regardless of what we do. it's becoming increasingly clear that donald trump cannot win this election. so, all he is serving as is an impediment to all of the competitive races at the senate and house level and every dollar that goes into financing what is inevitably going to be his losing bid is preventing those candidates from being able to be successful and win and retain the senate and house republican party. >> tom, let's talk about why you signed on to this. you know, what happened to fighting the good fight? the party picked this man, donald trump, to be at the head of the ticket. why sign a letter like this? >> well, good morning, chris. first of all, i'm from the show-me-state, the state of missouri, not minnesota. it's a fine state, i am from missouri. >> did i say mn snn? >> it got to the point where it's obvious we have an unusual candidate as our nominee and i'm
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concerned about the senate, the house, the state legislatures and the governors that are running. all the money in ft. knox will not be able to help them out as long as donald trump is supported and propped up and is the voice and the brand, if you will, of the republican party. so i think we've got to disassociate ourselves from him as much as we can. and what we think is cutting off the money to trump would be helpful in that case. >> so, andrew, the constructive argument against your move would be that your party has changed. that's why trump came in to power. people want something different out of the party, a different attitude a different edge, a different point of priorities and that by running away from trump, you're out of step with your own party and that may lead you to the same type of bad results that you're afraid of. >> no. i don't think so that's accurate. a majority of republican primary voters voted against donald
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trump. his unfavorables even in the party are spectacular high. 40% of the republicans saying they would prefer to have him replaced at the head of the ticket. i don't think that he is a candidate who actually does speak for the majority of the republican party. i think the republican party will come together after this election and figure out how to renew and restore the principles that it's always stood for. but what we're facing now is really an imminent emergency. you're facing a party where we would easily throw tens of millions of dollars into a presidential race where the chances of success is dwindling to next to nothing, rather than protecting a very vulnerable senate and making sure that our vulnerable house incumbents are protected as well. so at the end of the day, we see this almost as a family intervention. this wasn't just me organizing it. this was a fairly large group of like-minded republican staffers who came together and said, we want to send a very clear message to our party that the best way to ensure that we live
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to fight another day is to hold on to the senate, hold on to the house, make sure that our majorities are large and able to block the legislation that hillary clinton is likely to put forward and the nominees she is likely to put forward and regroup after this election and figure out how to pull our party back together again. >> tom, did you hear anything in the speech about the plan to defeat isis that changed your opinion about trump? >> only solidified it. i mean, when he talks about extreme vetting, and talks about we're not going to allow people in who don't believe in our constitution or who are bigots and have hateful, it seems to me that donald trump himself wouldn't pass his own admissions test of citizenship. his whole campaign is built upon these kinds of things. he is a demagogue. from that standpoint, he's already shown his cavalier attitude towards the constitution. he would like to put the media people like you and the doc because if you disagree with him, he'll be able to sue you under his new regime.
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he just throws out the entire first amendment. this is not helpful. what i have concluded, chris, is this -- and to be very honest, we have a nominee who is emotionally and mentally unfit to be president. there comes this line i am taking country over party. the nominee is not somebody you want to be associated with. i think we'll see destructiveness in the republican party. he will lead it down. we're trying to do whatever we can. every day donald trump pours gasoline on the gop and lights a match with his rhetoric. the people who signed this letter are simply volunteer firefighters trying to put out the fire. >> former spokesman for newt gingrich, thank you for being on "new day." and tom coleman from missouri, i know it's my age getting the
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better of me. thank you for being on "new day." >> that is a problem for you. let's talk olympics. the women's 400 meter race ending with a dramatic dive across the finish line. is that legal? the olympic controversy, coming up. >> we'll see about that.
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this is the photo finish right there in rio that has everyone buzzing this morning. it's a dive by miller at the end on the women's 400 meter race. it robbed legend allyson felix of another gold medal. let's discuss this and so much more with coy wire. great to see you guys this morning. when i saw this, i said, is that legal? can you go over the finish line with with your hands and not your feet? i'm not alone. people on social media have been pounding about this as well. is this okay? >> it's absolutely okay. everyone can be rest assured if it were not okay, that allyson
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felix would be the olympic gold medalist. that has been resolved. these things happen every now and then in track and field. folks over the first week have seen so much swimming and there's a saneness to swimming. so track and field presents a whole new issue and it makes it so much more fun. going back to 1992 there's a woman wofs a two-time olympic champ who fell over the last hurdle. and stumbled and basically crawled across the finish line. she finished fifth. this time for miller it was gold. >> i thought this was outstanding. let's say this is the most valiant effort of the 2016 games. i said it before and i'll say it before. the bahama mama, laying full out. she has the defending world champ breathing down the back of her neck and she lays it on the line. i was at an event with michael phelps. when that happened, they were
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speechless. they were just waiting to find out who was going to win this thing. it was an incredible moment. congrats to her bringing the bahamas their first medal. >> why is it okay? what's the rule? >> the rule is as long as you have some part of your body crossing over, there's a photo finish. maybe folks have seen it. every one of these races there's a photo. it's just the question of what part of your body goes over. as long as you're over, you're fine. that's as i understand it. >> as long as you're in your lane. >> i think she had two arguments that makes this great. one, she had the presence of mind to make one of theheartedest calculations in that sport. do i slow down a little bit to dive. because you don't just dive full out. >> not purposely. >> or if it was illegal, i fell. you can see that she stubs her toe, the knee goes down and
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reaches out to brace herself. i think she had it all day long. >> real quick, we would be remissed if it we department mention allyson felix. she becomes the most decorated track and field athlete with seven medals in her career. >> we know you caught up with michael phelps and asked him about what his best moment was and what he plans for the future. let's play a little moment of that. >> i'm definitely very happy i came back for one more. but now we're going back into retirement. >> what's been the most impactful memory of these games so far? >> having my son here is the best. being able to share this moment with him in my last olympics. i'm looking forward to sharing these memories when he gets old enough. in a couple years, hopefully i get a chance to take him to tokyo and watch some events over there. >> as chris has pointed out, his baby will never remember this. luckily, he has the video.
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what was your most goose bump inducing moment? >> well, i think of the games so far probably katie ledecky or phelps in the pool. phelps has said he's done. i'm not so sure about that. i have covered him since 2000. i certainly take him at his word. i just think in a couple years had he may miss this again. keep in mind, one swummer went to 40 years old in beijing. so the bottom line is there's more time for phelps. i wouldn't be surprised at all if he starts train iing again. >> you heard it here first. he still has the motor to the back that can still fly. we'll see if it comes to fruition. >> that's great. thank you both so much. great to always get your wrapups on this. he might not be done.
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you heard it here first. >> i don't buy it. maybe she's right. >> let us know what you think on twitter. we're following a lot of news this morning including donald trump laying out his plan to defeat isis. let's get right to it. >> what if he dives across the line? >> we cannot let this evil continue. isis is on the loose. >> donald has been all over the place on isis. >> he's not qualified to know the code. >> hillary clinton lacks the judgment to lead our nation. >> if i'm blessed to win a medal, it will be icing on the cake. >> i'm very happy i came back for one more. >> simone biles golden streak comes to an end. >> everyone is talking about it. . >> felix denied gold by .07. >> deadly flooding in louisiana.
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>> the car surnd water. >> it's still dangerous. we still have waters rising. >> this is "new day," with chris cuomo. >> welcome to "new day." we'll get to the flooding shortly. it's tuesday, august 16th, donald trump is unveiling his plan to defeat isis. he's calling for extreme vetting of imgrants entering the country, but he did not spell out how he would do it. >> in this extreme reporting, we'll tell you trump is blaming president obama and hillary clinton for the rise of radical islamic terror in his latest speech. to balance out the game, joe biden went after trump calling him a danger to national security. we have all the angles covered. let's start with athena jones live in washington. >> good morning, donald trump is usually unscripted, but he was on message yesterday talking about what he wants to do to defeat terrorism. e he made a turn in the speech
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after questioning the value of the nato alliance. he's now vowing to work with partners to combat terrorism. with clinton and her allies raising questions about temperament he's trying to raise doubts about her judgment and fitness for office. >> i call it extreme, extreme vetting. >> donald trump delivering a fiery speech for fighting radical islamic terrorism proposing admission tests for people in the united states. >> in addition to screening members of the sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any hostile attitudes toward our country or principles or who believe sharia law should those who support bigotry and hatred will not be admitted for immigration into our country.
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>> trump calling for bans on immigration from countries with ties to terror. >> we will have to temporarily suspend immigration from some of the most dangerous and volatile regions of the world that have a history of exporting terrorism. >> and simultaneously trashing hillary clinton's capabilities. >> with one episode of bad judgment after another, hillary clinton's policies launched isis on to the world stage. she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis. >> the democratic trifecta hitting trump on all fronts. at a dnc fundraising event monday night, president obama refusing to mention trump by name but quipping i don't have to make the case against her opponent because every time he talks, he makes the case against
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his own candidacy. clinton and biden together in scranton launching their preemptive attack. >> friends should not let friends vote for trump. >> i don't blame him in a a sense because he doesn't understand it. he doesn't have a clue. this man is totally, thoroughly unqualified to be president of the united states of america. >> biden slamming trump as a threat to national security. >> there's a guy that follows me right back here with the nuclear codes. god forbid anything happened to the president, the codes are with me. he's not qualified to know the code. he can't be trusted. >> trump holds a rally in wisconsin today while clinton spends another day in pennsylvania attending a voter registration event in philadelphia. in a sign of confidence,
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priorities usa the superpac supporting clinton says it's not going to air any local ads in virginia, colorado or pennsylvania through most of september. saying in a a statement, we know at the moment these are tough states for donald trump and there isn't a as much of a need for us to air ads there. >> we just had brad woodhouse on whether you want to give up too soon in any of these states. great to have you with us, congressman, as always. . >> good morning, chris, thanks for having me on. >> trump comes out to put meat on the bones on how to defend the country and beat isis. what did you like in this speech? >> first off, what i like is he was on the tell proeprompter, i thought he gave a a great
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speech. he was effective in laying out the threat of isis. and then he laid out a broad vision for how you fix this stuff. . and i think that's one of the negative points is hillary clinton is not strong on this issue. when donald trump stays scripted and on point, we have been talking about polls all morning and don't look good for donald trump. if he does what he did yesterday in the speech, we're still in the fog of summer. >> to that college educated republican, that demo bothers me. i don't like detailing people because of college. in politics that group is an important part of the analysis to races that republicans win. so to those voters when they hear you say i like that he was on that prompter, to them, it
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can play as code. boy, they have a low bar for success for this guy trump if he stays on prompter and says what he's told to say and doesn't use that that gets him in trouble the gop is happy. is that too low a bar for success? >> the flip side would be hillary clinton is never spontaneous because she can never go off script and talk off the cuff. you at least have a candidate that can be scripted and can go off page and be a real guy and talk to people. i think you want to have a candidate that can do both. we don't want to see donald trump never on script, always off the cuff because that's when he gets himself in trouble. but hillary clinton is never unskrupted. donald trump will do a press conference and will come in and talk to you and he'll answer questions. you may not like his answers,
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but he comes in and takes the tough questions from the media, day after day. hillary clinton did a press conference a week ago. that was the first time in eight months she talked to the press. she can't get outside the scripted box where donald trump just needs to go more scripted. >> no question, fair criticism that trump avails himself in the media that is not just singular, but is superior to what hillary clinton does. there's no question about that. she should be criticize forward that. let's move on. the point is this. >> we agree, this is great. >> i resolve having you on the show. best foot forward for your party. you know that. we're not going to nation build anywhere. a controversial thing said yesterday in the speech. as you know, and we have spoken about before, many people believe you cannot bomb away isis. you need to create environments of more freedom, opportunity, education and many of these countries where if you don't have it, extremism takes root. are you concerned about
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abandoning u.s. efforts of nation building? >> two points, number one, a lot of the terrorists that have taken their own lives and other lives with them have not been the disenfranchised. they have been wealthy and well-educated young men steeped in their faith that come and attack us. but with that said, do we want to walk away from other nations that may need our help that you might have the seeds of democracy that breed the seeds of peace. you don't want to completely walk away from that. i also think america is in a place where they want a president who is going to look back home and say how do i help my own people? i have roads and bridges that aren't being built. i have people that don't have the right jobs.
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we have been a great force of good in the world and helped others. we also have to look at home and are we willing to help our own people and they are yearning for a president to put me and my family first. once we're taken care of and these other people who might need our help, okay, let's help them. i want someone to look after me. >> one other point of concern potentially coming out of the speech. everything with paul manafort and there's a lot of facts still to come out about this ukrainian investigation, who he was working with in russia. people are using that as a lens through which to see some of the things that trump has said before and yesterday being friendly to russia. russia should be an ally. russia warned us about the boston bombers. when i think about the disposition towards putin, i think of john mccain and all these republican leaders who said russia has to be kept at arm's length.
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does trump's desire concern you? >> so again, a couple points on that. if you're going to embrace russia to defeat isis, we'll partner with anyone to defeat isis and our enemy. but if we're looking at partnering with russia and walk away and turn a blind eye to ukraine and the rising threat, i completely disagree with that. but i think it's important to note that this is paul manafort, who is on the campaign side. i want to know what money he got from pro-russian organization in the ukraine. but hillary clinton taking money at the clinton foundation from rogue regimes, bad regimes, regimes that aren't our friends. we know when the clinton foundation got money from foreign governments and billionaires, they had access to hillary clinton. so taking money from hillary clinton who is on the ballot is different from donald trump, whose campaign manager is taking cash.
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but again, i think we should expose both these issues in both campaigns. but it's a campaign manager and hillary clinton herself and her foundation is taking money from foreign governments. it was hillary clinton who had the great reset button with putin. that wasn't donald trump. it was barack obama, who whispered in putin's ear in the last election, i'll have more time, i'll have more band withafter the election. so it's been clinton and obama that's got it wrong with russia, not donald trump. >> neither of them have ever called putin a good, strong leader either. but thank you. >> i disagree with that. >> i'm sure you do. as well you should. thank you for being on "new day" as always. now to one of our other top stories. the floods in louisiana. they are blamed for nine deaths. thousands of homes are damaged. the worst of it may still be yet
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to come. how does it look this morning? >> it's still in really rough shape. six of those nine came here in east baton rouge. there are tens of thousands of people still in shelters. there's tremendous need and in some places the flood waters keep on rising in parishes southeast of us where the flood water is heading. that back water flooding is really causing major problems. it's not the same flood water as two days ago. you can see the translucents on it. but neighbors here are staying strong. they are trying to get back into their homes. we have seen these signs of generosity. i talked to one neighbor yesterday who gave us a tour of the neighborhood by boat. his home was completely submerged, but he was helping his neighbors get to homes blocked off trying to rescue pets. there was also a cookout yesterday here. people cooking jambalaya for the
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neighborhood. obviously, a long road ahead. their spirits are strong here in louisiana. >> thank you very much. please let us know as you learn about the need there and what the word is from the ground, let us know so we can get it out here as well. other news this morning, fire officials in northern california arresting a man that started a a fire that destroyed more than 100 homes. it also forced the evacuation of a hospital. his name is 40-year-old and charged with 17 counts of arson include iing the 4,000-acre clan fire. so we'll stay on that story. but that's the latest. dramatic video out of the uk. you can watch as this plane flips over. in the water. and the pilot tries to make an emergency landing. that's what he was doing there at the air show.
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spectators rushed in to help. as the aircraft began to sink after some work they were able, you'll see in a moem, to flip the aircraft upright again and they actually pulled the pilot out. fortunately, the pilot suffered only minor injuries. >> wow, once again, thank god people willing to take the risk, run in and do the right thing. >> rush towards the danger. >> also gives you context o how lucky those people when sully landed that plane in the hudson. >> i can't wait to see that it movie. >> supporters and critics are weighing in on donald trump's vision for fighting islamic extremism. how does it differ from the current fight against islamic extremism? and in the ways it is different, is it better? senior political commentator david axelrod, live, next.
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if i become president, the era of nation building will be brought to a very swift and decisive end. >> the support networks for radical islam in this country will be stripped down and removed one by one viciously if necessary. >> the reaction to donald trump's plan to defeat isis is pouring in this morning. here's a a lock at some of the
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other things he was proposing in that speech. he wants extreme vetting, which would include an ideological test and a temporary suspension of any immigration from volatile regions. here to discuss the plan and more is senior political commentator david axelrod. >> hey, allison. >> donald trump's main premise is that isis has only grown stronger under the obama administration's watch. they have become more deadly and they have grown and that he will do things differently to fix it. what did you think of the speech? >> well, first of all, i think he accomplished one thing he wanted to accomplish, which was he read a speech off a teleprompter. he didn't ad lib much. whatever controversy he created was intended controversy. what he's trying to do is rally republicans around his banner, which he's failed to do. he's lagging behind hillary clinton in terms of solidifying
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his own party. this speech was an effort to do that. the speech itself was mostly slogans without specifics. very tough talk, very costic criticisms of the president and hillary clinton. maybe red meat for some republicans. but obviously, there are a lot of gaps. what does he mean by all this stuff? no one knows. he will fill in the details after the election. i don't know if that's going to fly. >> but the core of it, how do you think it sells? which is obama has screwed it up. we're less safe than ever before when it comes to isis. this nation building of trying to be everybody's friend and the apology toor which is what trump said obama went on and said is these things need to stop him. we have to start being harder on the people who get into this country so they can't slip through the bad system.
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that's red meat for a lot of voters beyond the republican base. >> we'll see. i think there are concerns about terrorism. obviously, as isis loses ground in its so-called caliphate, they have been authorizing and they haven the beneficiaries of terrorist attacks all over that are not large scale attacks, but still frightening to many people. but i really think the bigger question that is drive iing thi race is donald trump himself. the very qualities that drove him to the nomination are now calling into question whether he is prepared to be president of the united states. those questions have to be answered before people rallied to his flag. i think that's a tough task. that's why -- it was interesting because i saw brad woodhouse on your program earlier. brad, who is in the orbit of the clinton campaign, though not
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with the clinton campaign, former dnc spokesperson. it was interesting to hear him speak so passionately about not being complacent. that's a heck of a message in august. it reflects the state of the race. the president had the same message yesterday. don't be complacent because the general sense in the political community is that donald trump is in deep trouble and it's going to be very hard for him to reverse it. >> president obama said something else yesterday that i thought was interesting in terms of his strategy and how to tackle opposing donald trump. this is what he said in a dnc fundraiser. frankly, i'm tired of talking about her opponent. i don't have to make the case against her opponent because every time he talks, he makes the case against his own candidacy. what do you think of that strategy that i'm just going to zip it. i don't need to talk about him anymore because he's hoisting himself on his own.
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>> one of the things that has driven the race in her direction since the conventions has been a a series of gaffes by donald trump. that's why his team wants him on tell prompters and not ad libbing in it these speeches. we'll see if that holds for the president and other leaders of the party. they are going to have a hard time not commenting on donald trump. i think donald trump will insist in certain ways that he be the center of attention between now and november. >> why does it matter so much? you have the "wall street journal" poll that came out that "washington post" poll that just came out that shows hillary clinton is up 52% to 38% in virginia. they pinned it to a big negative for trump. it's like 65 to 54. trump is ahead in terms of negativity. why does it matter? obama won it twice. before it was from blue dog to republican.
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why does virginia matter so much? >> well, it was actually 1964 was the last time anyone wanted any democrat won it before in 2008. it has been considered a battleground state. a state that was up for grabs. the fact that she is so far ahead gives one of the superpac withdrew from virginia. that means they can spend resources elsewhere. what's happening right now is the map is growing for hillary clinton in states like north carolina, perhaps georgia, maybe even arizona. utah seems to be in play. it's shrinking for donald trump closing off his paths to 270 electoral votes. it's significant for a number of reasons. it's more bad news for the trump campaign. there are three months left in the campaign. but right now things look very dark for him.
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i have not seen anyone in recent history who is in a worse position at this stage in the campaign than donald trump is right now. >> david axelrod, interesting to get your perspective. the son of fallen israeli leader accusing donald trump of provoke iing the kind of violen that took his own father's life. so why he's worried about the political climate in america, next. and this is the best tool for running my business. hhis stellar notebooks will last through june. get back to great. this week sharpie twelve-packs just three dollars. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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when trump it calls clinton the devil or says the system is rigged or barack obama founded isis, most people either laugh it off or see it as more of the same. but not the son of the famed prime minister of israel, the nobel prize winner. he was assassinated in 1995 by an israeli law student and now the son is speaking out saying his father was killed in a a political climate similar to what he sees in the u.s. today.
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yuval joins us now. i-know the memory of your father is not something you like to revisit, but you think it matters. you thought what we heard from thomas freedman, who wrote an e editorial about what happened to your father that went from toxic to deadly may be reflected in what trump is doing today. how so? >> first of all, good morning. thank you for inviting me. to reflect my sense, living about a third of my life over 20 years was the sense of a lost opportunity. a a sense that i saw what's happening and failed to take action. and i think i'm, press iing the
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view of many israelis that felt the same after my father's assassination. i saw the progression of the latest campaign and eventually i felt that i cannot stay sigh lea lent any longer and want to raise the warning light that things, where do things ending in a situation like this. the at mot fear is toxic, as you mentioned, and i think it was my responsibility to sound the bell, ring the bell to at least bring the discussion to the -- to raise the discussion, like others did. >> what is that discussion? what do you want people to see
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in the words of donald trump? those who see it as just hot headed political talk and the nature of a campaign. what do you see that's worse than that? >> i want to make things very clear. i think the debate is very legitimate. it can be fierce, it can be tough. there's no question that the election season brings up a debate and about, presentations are being made. words do kill and the po politicians have to exercise restrapt. know where the line must not be cross crossed. especially when you have, and i think this is quite a similar situation, where you have a divided nation. you have people feeling that one side is wrong and others feel the other side is very wrong.
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this contentious times had required the restrapt int of th politicians in order not to result to incitement and personal dem gragss. i will stick to our example. it wasn't just a matter of days or weeks. it was an ongoing campaign where my father was the nazi, many other despicable ways that eventually led unintelligent, capable, ideologically motivated person to take action. and he felt e he had other legitimacy in the world to do the action that he did. so i think that by raising this parallel, i think it's my obligation to at least to myself to bring it up to the public
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discussion. >> so what do you want the g ggop should be saying after his remarks about the president being the founder of isis. >> i think, first of all, they definitely have to denounce it. they have to stick to the policy and to the real facts on the ground and not make the political considerations their foremost priority. i think that the stability and the safety and the security of the american nation comes before everything else. america has known political assassinations, quite a few of them, and i think it's only
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natural that people should be along when unfounded, unreasonable allegations of being made to try to bring them to light. >> your father's assassination was a terrible loss to israel and peace in general. that was certainly the feeling at the time and today in america. e we know you're in politics as well. you're pushing for a two-state solution. good luck to you and thank you for offering your perspective on our show. >> thank you. so what do republicans think of donald trump east foreign policy speech yesterday? we have two to discuss this and debate it, coming up.
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we talked a lot about donald trump's foreign policy speech. what do pundits think about his policy on isis? how about his effect on other candidates? let's bring in commentator and talk radio host john phillips and former communications
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director for jeb bush's presidential campaign and communications adviser for our principles pack tim miller. tim, i want to start with you. because you said you felt it was out of step with where republicans should be on foreign policy. how so? >> correct, i actually think it's out of step with the bipartisan consensus since world war ii, which is that america needs to stand up for our values against threats. and not face our foreign policy based on a mercenary ideology. >> he's saying he would give that idea lological toast peoplo make sure they adhere to the u.s. constitution. >> you're talking about the immigration part. i was talking to the fight against the global war on terror. basically what trump is saying is that if russia and assad want to fight isis, they are our
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allies. this is not how it's worked for the united states and this is extremely dangerous for us to get in lead with some of the worst people in order to fight isis and i think that frankly he's one of the most dangerous foreign policy nominees of either party in the last half century. >> hold that thought. john, you support trump. what did you think of the speech? >> he was on message, which is good because last week was supposed to be about the economy and then got caught up in conflicts with cnn, john mccain, paul ryan, alleging that barack obama was the one that started isis. then we stopped talking about his economic speech. he was on message. he was on point. if he can stay on point and beat the drum on this this week, i think it will be a good point. and say that we need a better vetting system, particularly of what we learned in the washington examiner that the united states is taking in more
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syrian refugees than the european union combined, is something that resinates with voters. >> that's not true. >> those numbers don't jibe. we have talked about how many they were going to take in. something like up to 10,000. >> i don't remember the exact number of the refugees, but it's extremely small compared to what the european union is taking in. here's the thing on the test. most republicans are for making sure we know who comes into this country. that's not an extreme point of view. but here's the problem. donald trump is ruining this for republicans who want to do this in a credible way going forward. with things like floating his muslim ban and not coming out and saying i'm getting rid of it. it's i'm upgrading it or changing it. i don't think any americans want a donald trump ss in charge of who is coming into this kocount and looking through backgrounds. there's a better way to do it. trump has shown that he is not going to do it in a fair minded way or that he's the kind of
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person we'd even trust with this. >> let's talk about donald trump's affect on down ballot candidates. because there's this open letter that cnn has receive d a copy o. it's a draft letter being september to the rnc. i just read a little excerpt from it. only the immediate shift of all available rnc resources to vulnerable senate and house races will prevent the gop from drowning when a trump em blazened an tor around its neck. do you worry as much as these former republican senators and congress people and rnc staffers that donald trump's effect will be a bad one on the down-ballot? >> i think a lot of these candidates for the u.s. senate and swing state where is they are up for election are going to run ahead of donald trump. that's no surprise or joke. what donald trump has to do is stabilize his numbers. he's had a horrific three weeks. polls are snapshots in time. so the polls are going to be horrific for donald trump.
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so if he can stabilize numbers, stay on message, he can get back to up to the mid-40s or low 40s, a lot of these candidates will do just fine. >> my point of view is different. i think this race is over. the presidential race is over. and he's losing virginia by double digits. colorado by double digits. there's no path back to winning. what the republicans need to do is reassess, send all the money to turn out for senate and house states and the senate and house candidates can carry a message that says you don't like hillary clinton, we need to have a check on her in the white house over the next four years and that's why republicans who don't like donald trump need to come out and vote for me. >> your grim for 80 days out. can't somebody turn it around? let me put up the numbers. i'll show you where it is in terms of battleground states. clinton is leading in some of these significant states. she's up 3 in florida, 2 in
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ohio, 4 points in north carolina, 8 points in new hampshire, 10 points in virginia, 11 points in colorado, not even mentioning pennsylvania. >> put that map back up. trump could win all those states that you guys just put up and still not be president. e he could win all of them and still not win. he then would have to win iowa or nevada as well. he's down by 11 in colorado and 10 in virginia. this race is a blowout right now and donald trump, hispanics hate him, women hate him, african-americans hate him. there aren't a lot of magical people out there just waiting to get the vote. >> can you give tim a dose of optimism for donald trump? >> i don't know if i can give him optimism. you can give him a a cocktail, maybe that will settle him down. if you look at the numbers, so many are in the margin of error. he's had a horrible three weeks. hillary clinton had a horrible three weeks.
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nobody knows about it because donald trump's were worse than hers. there are still e e-mails that wikileaks saying they are going to dump on the press and going to be damaging to hillary clinton. who knows what's going to happen. this race could go any number of ways. >> very good little finishing note in terms of optimism, but the bloody mary will be waiting for you in the green room. thank you. let's get over to chris. >> let's get to the good news. she's an olympic athlete who just made history. that was before she won a bronze medal for team usa. she has an inspiring story, next.
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faithless and fearless, words used to describe ibtihaj muhammad, the first american athlete to wear a hijab while compete iing in the olympics. . she's a global phenomenon because she won the bronze in the women's team saber. she joins us live in rio. congratulations, medal-winning champ. let's talk about the olympic moment first. then we'll talk about why it may matter more to you. did you know that you had a shot at winning a medal when you came into it and when did you know you were going to win one? >> you know, first of all, thank you so much. this has been an amazing experience. honestly, it still doesn't feel
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real. but team usa went into our match as underdogs. we vice presidehaven't medaled qualification. winning five world medals at the last five championships, we went a whole year without winning a medal. i know no one expected us to go home with a medal on this it trip, and it was just a phenomenal experience to band together as teammates, to believe in ourselves and be positive throughout the day. that moment when i realized that we won, i think i jumped so high in the air. the best feeling. >> good for you. congratulations. thank you for representing the country well. and there's an added lay r of significance. even though one of your teammates in that picture had wild blue hair, it's what's on your head that has made the news. why was wearing the hijab something that was not going to
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be a condition for you one way or the other. you were not going to do it if you didn't get to wear the hijab and what did you want the statement to be? >> as a muslim youth growing up, my participants waents wanted ta sport that i could be covered and adhere to my faith. when i found fencing, i immediately almost found myself. and one of the amazing things a about living in the united states and being american is that regardless of your faith, your ethnicity, we can achieve our dreams and participate in sport at this level. it's been an amazing experience for me. >> i know fencing. i have a wife who was a champ. my daughter does it. it's very empowering. you are now taking that discussion to another level. because for many critics when they talk about the hijab, they say that's a symbol of
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extremism. you're an american and you should dress like an american and be an american first. you dealt with race, you dealt with religion getting into a a sport that was largely white. especially where you were in new jersey. how do you deal with these added elements? what do you say to those critics? >> you know, it hasn't been the easiest journey, but i wouldn't trade any of my experiences. they have all made me stronger. what i love about my experience here as a minority member of team usa is that i'm able to encourage other youth to pursue their dreams and not let other people dictate their journey for them. simone biles provided a different image than what people are used to seeing. we're showing americans that this is one of the beautiful things about our country. and hopefully we're inspiring generations to come to pursue
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their desire even though they may be different. >> what do you want people to know about what it is to be american? you represent that as well. >> i want people to know that muslims come in all shapes and sizes. and we do various things that we're productive members of society. we're even present here on the olympic team. this dream of mine wouldn't have been able to come to fruition were it not for the support system that i have not just in my town, but also from my friends and family. this has been a beautiful experience. this is the america that i know and i love. the america that is inclusive. that is accepting and encompasses people from all walks of life. >> you tweeted muslim black girl, these are not limitations.
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you're presenting a a whole package there for people. >> this is who i am. i embrace every single facet of my life. i love who i am. i want youth out there to belief in themss. i want them to be accepting of themselves and not allow other people's misconceptions and allow stereotypes to dictate their lives for them. i want them to believe in themselves and believe that they can also achieve a dream of becoming an o olympian. i don't think that the stories that we're seeing of these olympic games are really that out of the norm in a sense that anyone can have this moment. anyone can be holding this medal. i truly believe that it literally comes with hard work and perseverance.
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anyone can have what i have. >> anyone can, but very few will and you are among them. you have to add that to your description of self. olympian and medal winner. it's great to have you with us. congratulations, enjoy the rest of your time down there in rio. >> thank you so much. go team usa. >> yes! there's a a lot of news this morning. let's get you to the newsroom with carol costello right after this break. mmer. his stellar notebooks will last through june. get back to great. this week sharpie twelve-packs just three dollars. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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