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and thank you everyone for putting up with me, especially with this terrible voice today. i can assure you that brianna keeler sounds much better than i do and she eeshe's subbing in ff and she starts right now. i'm brianna keeler in for wolf blitzer, it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington and wherever you are watching around the world, thank you for joining us. we are beginning with breaking news in the race for the white house, we have just learned new information about donald trump now working with ousted fox news ceo roger ailes to assist with his debate preparation, cnn senior media reporter dillon buyers is joining us live with more on this development. what do you know about the role that ailes will play? >> sure, brianna, what we dwhoe is that roger ailes who was ousted from fox news amid sexual
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harassment allegations is now talking with trump, the two have been in discussions, the two talk frequently and of course the great thing on the horizon for donald trump and his campaign is of course those three presidential debates which are going to take place in september and october. if you know roger ailes, roger ailes is someone who has advised presidential candidates in their debates going back to richard nixon, ronald reagan, george w. bush. and of course this is something in which he brings a great deal of expertise. the two of them talk frequently, have talked frequently even before roger ailes left fox news. formal debate prep has not starreded for donald trump and the trump campaign issued a very forceful denial of this report which originally appeared in the "new york times." that denial if i can just read it to you now, this is not accurate, he is not advising mr. donald trump with debate prep. they are friends, but he has no formal or informal role in the campaign. what we can say is that there is
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a sort of gray matter there, they are talking, they are discussing the upcoming debates and mr. trump based off the sources we have spoken with finds mr. ailes' advice on that subject to be invaluable. >> whether it's formal or informal, how does that square with the fact that the "new york times" was the first to report? >> it almost seems like too much of a full throated denial, based on both the "new york times" reporting and on our own reporting, there's no denial there that the two of them two talk regularly and that the two of them are indeed close friends. again, this is roger ailes -- this is roger ailes bread and butter, this is what he does, he is a master of messaging. he is credited with some of the most famous lines coming out of some of the presidential debates for the various presidential candidates and presidents he worked for. when the two of them get together and talk there's no question that the debates are on
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the who rise on. especially for mr. donald trump, where he's truly trying to salvage a campaign. he's slaghing in poll numbers, those are his last moments in which to make his case to the nation that he's fit to be president of the united states. >> are you getting the sense from people who are close to donald trump, who are backing donald trump, that there's some discord about whether this is a good idea. >> yes, discord in the donald trump campaign is sort of the name of the game. there's a lot of disagreement about how he should handle things. certainly donald trump has flown off the cuff and done things a certain way, but that dint mean that there aren't certain people who he trusts and takes seriously and one of those is roger ailes. no one knows this better than he does. roger ailes, whatever you want to say about his tenure at fox news, his tenure about advising the media strategies of
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presidents and presidential candidates, that's a very solid record in terms of the wins and the gains that he has made. on the whole, i think there's an agreement that this is probably going to help donald trump. and there are a lot of people in the campaign that donald trump needs to sharpen his message and start running a little bit more of a general election campaign rather than the primary campaign which he still seems to be running. >> and donald trump is campaigning in milwaukee on the heels of violent protests that followed a fatal shooting by police. over the weekend, at least six businesses were burned, cars were set on fire, rocks, bricks, thrown at police, cnn correspondent anna cabrera is joining us live from milwaukee, and you are actually standing in front of the wreckage of a burned out building, what appear to be burned out cars, anna, and all of this happening as donald
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trump is now heading to the area. >> that's right, you can see atf investigators and some of the local investigators that are working with the arson team on scene, going through the wreckage of the gas station that was burned down in saturday night's violence. this comes as trump comes to his state, a state that has not been real friendly in the primary election and he needs to try to gain some traction here. he will be visiting milwaukee sometime in the next couple of hours, his campaign saying that he will be at an event that includes veterans and law enforcement but aren't saying specifically where that's happening or what he's planning to address. he will go on to have an event this evening, a town hall and a fund raiser, this town hall will be the fox news in downtown milwaukee before he ends his day
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in a rally in milwaukee. we know the subject here of policing, of racial tensions across the country are very big in this presidential election and this is a way for donald trump to show leadership on that front. >> and anna, you mentioned, donald trump is going to be meeting wi meeting with veterans, he's going to be meeting with police officers, you also have a number of people in his party that say, look, you need to be reaching out to african-american voters. i don't think that anyone else is going to expect that donald trump is going to carry the african-american vote, but they say it's important that he gets in front of black voters and makes his case so that he can at least get some support, are you getting any sense if he has any plans to talk with community leaders, with activists there? >> reporter: we just don't know at this point, there is no word that he's planning to do that, but we have been talking with
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the community leaders and with residents where the unrest has taken place in the past couple of days, the neighborhood, who feels they have been treated poorly by the system and have felt oppressed and want to see others in elected positions to create job opportunities and an avenue for better conditions. i want to play a sound bite or a clip of part of an interview i did just this morning with a woman named la shonda foster. listen. >> why is he coming? what is he doing for our community? for that community? for that matter anybody's community. he's already rich, what can he do for our community that's hurting right now. our kids can't even go to the park where the boys and girls club is at. i have kids who are scared to be out here. i have a 12-year-old, he can't
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even come to the park. >> there's a sense of apathy that we're hear from people regarding a visit from donald trump. i spoke to a man who says he's a community minister, and he says a lot of folks aren't focussed on the broader political election or politics on a national level, they are hyper focused on what's happening in their lives right now and they welcome anybody who might be able to make a positive difference, brianna. >> anna cabrerra, thank you. let's talk more about donald trump's visit to milwaukee, but also the fact that you have roger ailes now apparently advising trump when it comes to the debate. we're going to talk to jack kingston is an advisor to the trump campaign. thank you for being here, we have been talking a lot lately and i'm glad that we are. i want to ask you first about this roger ailes news, obviously we are mentioning that the
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campaign is saying this isn't happening, there's no informal, there's no formal. but there is reporting, and this is according to three people who have been briefed on who's going on, that donald trump who's of course the ousted knocks news chairman, left amid charges of sexual harass -- or pardon me, there were allegations of sexual harassment, that he's going to be advising trump. is that a good idea? i know a lot of republicans think it is not. >> i don't think any campaign is going to tell everything to everybody and they're under no obligation to say who's going to be speech coach, who's going to be in the back room. we do know this, roger ailes has tremendous experience in terms of coaching candidates, he could be a resource for debate purposes. but i think at this point, the campaign is going to look at a lot of options in terms of who might be in the room to coach him and who won't as your reporter pointed out, the debates are a big thing, we know the stakes are high. and so, i think right now, we're not ready to say anything.
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we're just going to start getting prepared, not formally, but getting a mindset about it. >> he resigned, roger ailes did, amid a lawsuit, alleging that he had sexually harassed one of the anchors at fox and then you had a string of other women who came out and said this, and i point this out because this is something that certainly is not going to draw women to donald trump. and he's already struggling with them. so i see that you're saying, look, this is a guy with a lot of experience, he is an asset, how is he also not a liability? >> i think again, the campaign is under no obligation to say -- but they're not. >> but if he's not. if we're going to count all the sins of supporters, let's start with the most recent clinton scandal with kathleen kaine, the disgraced, guilty of perjury
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attorney general of pennsylvania who worked on the clinton campaign operative and a big endorser and we could go down the list of others who have been involved in the clinton orbit. >> what about picking him out of the bunch for a debate. this is moving forward, this is a place where he need to make progress. he's saying this is someone who's being picked to help. >> number one, the candidate has said he's not involved. and i think should he become -- >> should he not be then? if he's saying he's not involved, should he not be? >> i think the candidate's going to have to make the decision, but certainly donald trump will not take advice on employees from roger ailes. and donald trump has had thousands of women who has worked for him and his track record is very good in terms of treatment, equal pay, advancement, giving them titles. letting them run his companies. he would put that record up
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against the clinton foundation or whatever sort of job program she could scrape up, he had a pattern of abusing any type of employees, we would have all known it before this time. >> now trump is going to milwaukee after the shooting of an armed by a black police officer of an armed 23-year-old man. he's meeting with veterans, he's meeting with police officers, you have a lot of republicans who are saying, look, you need to meet with black voters too, should he be meeting with community activists? >> he will be. >> is he meeting with them today? >> not necessarily today. we had baltimore, we had milwaukee, we had dallas and the president has not shown much leadership. we need to have a national
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dialogue, somewhere between black lives matter and blue lives matter, there needs to be some love, there needs to be some engagement, but what is one of the big problems in milwaukee? 43 million people nationally are on food temperatures, 94 million people are unemployed or under employed. the african-american unemployment rate for youth is 50%. and by the way, they have a democrat mayor. the system has failed them. >> you look at statistics and those are statistics that are definitely representative of a problem. i want to ask you about this because you say the president needs to show leadership. you have republicans who are urging donald trump talk to black voters, you're not going to win over black voters, if they're a solid democratic constituen constituency. but the nbc/"wall street journal" poll last week hasn't received 2% of the black vote. >> a lot of people have a lot of
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back seat drivers in whatever party they belong to. but bruce lavelle tells me every day how they are engaged not just with african-americans but with all kinds of racial groups, all kinds of religious groups, unfortunately, he's not getting much credit for that. he started this committee during the primary. so to me, i would bring bruce lavelle on and say, look, let's talk about the national diversity committee, which donald trump has had in effect, i don't know if it's been a year, but it's certainly been several months and it wasn't anything that happened after the primary. but i want to get back to what we were talking about earlier, brianna. if donald trump as an employer had a background of racial discrimination or racial tension, we would well know about it. and we don't. the bottom line is the people of milwaukee have been let down by
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the liberal state. and what we need is somebody like donald trump who's going to create jobs and opportunity and get them out of that gridlock. >> congressman kingston, thank you very much. i want to bring in bakry sellers, who is also a hillary clinton supporter. you're hear these frustrations certainly. i don't think anybody looks at what happened this weekend, if the police describe that the body camera shows a man that had a weapon, they might look at that and see how this unfolded. but what it revealed is certainly the racial tension we're seeing in america. we're seeing it over and over again in communities. what is hillary clinton going to do to try to solve something that has become a huge issue here in the last year or so? >> well, i just have to say, brianna, that first it's not just become a huge issue in the
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last year or so. -- >> i think people -- it's obviously been a huge issue, but this is something that a lot of people who -- there are many americans out there who didn't quite know this was happening and now this is something that has erupted into the public consciousness. >> i agree. i often times tell people that ufos didn't all of a suggest disappear and police brutality all of a sudden didn't begin with the invention of a camera phone. now you have these instances of situations that are caught on body cameras and you have these situations that are erupting. what you have is broken systems in this country, you have an educational system, an economic system, the criminal justice system that are just simply leaving african-americans behind. i was listening to jack kingston earlier and there was so much that i really wanted to fact check, but i won't spend my time doing that. but what i will say is especially in the african-american community, the
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grip of impoverishment is placed it's brash on our newborn and elderly alike. so we have made progress, but we still have yet a ways to go. dr. martin luther king said that rioting is the voice of the unheard. if donald trump is going to walk into milwaukee, wisconsin, he needs to listen to the voices of african-american not just in milwaukee but across the country, i would ask him as an american running for the united states to sit down and listen to the voices that are screaming for your help. >> i want to ask you because hillary clinton has a long record. is the first lady in the '90s, she supported her husband on the 1994 crime bill and this was a bill that even bill clinton admits had serious flaws in it. for instance, something she touted repeatedly that there
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would be more prisons, that there would be more police officers on the streets and a lot of people, nonpar san people point to that policy and say this was a big creator of this era of mass incarceration that hillary clinton now speaks out against, this explains why communities like milwaukee are so frustrated. what has she learned from the mistakes of the '90s that she can now apply to what we're seeing. >> i can't blame milwaukee on hillary clinton. i'm a hillary clinton supporter. i will tell you that the '94 crime bill was a mess. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, the republicans that pushed it, everyone has to be held accountable because that bill took a lot of african-american males, a lot of fathers out of those households, minimum sentences and the like. hillary clinton's first speech on the campaign trail was not
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about the economy or anything else. but she actually went to the dekein's dekein's understand -- to make sure that more african-american men end up in the criminal justice system than they do in college. so when you're talking about body cameras, when you're talking about independent solicit solicitors, or independent -- ecan also tell you this, jack kingston earlier said that he didn't know of any instances of racial discrimination on the part of donald trump. donald trump's been sued not once but twice for failure to rent to african-americans. if you want to look at the records, yes, in 1994, we should never have had the crime bill. but the answer of now who's best prepared to lead us forward, it's simple, it's the person who's actually listening to the african-american community. >> thank you both.
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ailes. let's bring in our panel. we have chief political analyst gloria borger, and rebecca burr, a national political reporter for real clear politics. we have to mention that the trump campaign is saying on the record, nope, ailes is not advising donald trump formally or informally and the "new york times" has its report very well sourced on three people briefed on this development. what's going on here? what are the pitfalls for donald trump? >> i think that the trump campaign doesn't want to make this a major story, this is somebody who had to resign effectively in disgrace from fox news after he was charged with sexual harassment and after a study was done by a law firm and basically caused him to leave quite rapidly. so i think that any formal
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relationship with the trump campaign could potentially hurt with women voters, where trump is all right weak. however, informally, roger ailes is a smart guy and knows a lot about debates and knows a lot about how to debate. and informally, if we were to pick up the phone and talk to donald trump or talk to paul manafort and say, this is where i think hillary's weaknesses are, this is what i think you could do, i can certainly imagine them doing that, but to make it a formal relationship, would be a step too far. >> but if people have been briefed on this, it seems to be that this isn't something that's informal and being kept very hush-hush and private between donald trump and paul manafort. i see how roger ailes, he's been an asset to a number of republican candidates, susan, but what i don't get is how his liability now as donald trump struggles with women does not outweigh that as an asset? >> donald trump has bigger
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problems than roger ailes. the controversy is about donald trump and his own language. i think it's hard to overstate the impact of roger ailes being on -- although i agree, a formal role, that would probably provoke some controversy, but as you look at the debates, probably the last chance that donald trump has to turn the campaign around. roger ailes, if you were to listening to him, has a lot of knowledge on debates. >> how is donald trump doing with him? where are his struggles there? it's been a huge, monumental struggle, not only because of his rhetoric that has turned off many women, but of course because hillary clinton is a historic candidate, the first woman president if she is elected. so donald trump has really struggled mightily with women and especially with college educated women and we see this also with college educated men to a lesser extent.
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and roger ailes being an advisor, formally, informally to the campaign, probably won't make a big difference in the mind of trump voters. at this stage of the election cycle, their feelings are already baked in. they have a small share of women who these candidates are trying to speak to in a few states, but every sort of impression that they make with those women is going to matter. >> if i were hillary clinton and i knew four a fact that roger ailes were advising trump during these debates, i would raise it in the debates, and i would rise it as an issue, i would say by the way, who's helping you out here? it's somebody who's been accused of some pretty bad things.
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so sit could become an issue that hillary would raise, it would be fair game for her. >> donald trump is in milwaukee today, just in the after math, the very recent aftermath of riots, really following the police killing of an armed black man. and you have him struggling with black voters more so than any republican candidate we have seen, i think we saw mitt romney get 6%, john mccain get 4%. and he is struggling with women. he is struggling with mormons, we are seeing that. and he's struggling with millennials. these are a lot of fires to put out. >> we have the new "usa today" rock the vote poll out that donald trump's standing with women is -- and what's significant not only for trump but also for republicans in general, if these trends continue, it will be the third election in a row where the
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democratic candidate has won younger voters by double digits, that starts to set precedents perhaps for a lifetime in the biggest voting bloc in american history. >> i remember talking to one person an expert on the matter, who said look, for millennials, there is a litmus test when it comes to any sort of perceived exclusion of people or discrimination and i wonder if that isn't something that's turning off a lot of young people. >> absolutely. inclusivity is a value among many millennials, relative to especially past generations, we have seen a much more diverse country for millennials growing up than it has been in the past. and donald trump is speaking to a totally different segment of americans, who want america to go back to how it was before in the past, whether real or imagined version of the country,
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how it used to be, and millennials are pretty happy with the way things are now and the country they have grown up in and it's a different sort of value system that they have and that's who he's speaking to. coming up, so far 20,000 people, this is a number that is so hard to wrap your head around, you're looking at live pictures coming from louisiana where there's been devastating flooding, all of these folks have had to be rescued. we're going to get an up-close look as first responders search neighborhoods hoping to rescue even more victims. marco...! polo! marco...! sì? polo! marco...! polo! scusa? ma io sono marco polo, ma... marco...! playing "marco polo" with marco polo? surprising. ragazzini, io sono marco polo. sì, sono qui... what's not surprising? how much money amanda and keith saved by switching to geico. ahhh... polo. marco...! polo! fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
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much of louisiana is in recovery mode right now after catastrophic flooding. we're getting a better look now at the devastation. you can see the streets, the homes, submerged under water. there are eight people who have died as a result of this flooding. in the meantime, louisiana's governor says that eight parishes have been the claidecl disaster areas. >> we're still very much in an emergency search and rescue response mode for much of the florida parishes. saving life is the most important priority that we have. we're going to dedicate every single resource to that effort until it's no longer required. >> our rosa flores just got back from a trip with first responders who are searching neighborhoods. when i saw that number that at least 20 people had been rescued so far, i thought i misread it, that the number was uncorrect.
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just the side of this operation and the size of this flooding is almost unimaginable. >> reporter: and, yeah, brianna, we're live here, this is the command center, this is where these emergency calls are coming in. and as you mentioned, we just got off a boat a little while ago, we were with first responders while they were knocking on doors. some of the guys are still out here, they're having a short lunch break, but literally a call could come in at any moment, and they are ready at a moment's notice ready to respond, and other boats that you see around here. you can see the command center, there's generators, there's other boats in the back, but the important thing is to have these resources in the ready, to make sure that they can go out and respond to these calls. i'm sure you're looking at the video that we teook about an hor
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ago, people were out there checking on people, they were logging that information. in situations like this, the sharing of information is so important. imagine calling in to dispatch, or an emergency number, asking about your family members, and trying to get information, that's what some of these guys are able to do, they're able to deliver information. some of those neighborhoods that we were in, are completely submerged by water. we would see street signs or no trespassing signs that are in the trees. that gives you a sign of the devastation there. some of the people saw the water rising very quickly, they had to leave, we met other people who were coming back in in boats to check for their houses, to check for their belongings, or salvage whatever they could from inside their houses. but my team right now, we're on
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stand by, if a call comes, we're able to hop on this boat and we would be able to go on that call. as a matter of fact right now, i believe what's happening is they're actually getting a call. so we may have to jump in our vehicle and head out there, brianna. so i'll let you go, but i promise you if we're able to get something, we'll bring it to you. >> head out there, rosa, we do appreciate that, rosa flores out there in louisiana, riding along with the first responders and the rescuers out there in louisiana. i was in up in scranton yesterday with vice president joe biden. and we had a great day, both joe and i have roots in scranton, so we saw a lot of people that were related to, a lot of people who tell us we're related to them.
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but it just reminded me of how lucky we are to be part of a country that has provided such opportunity. it's not perfect. we know that. but there is no place that has provided more opportunity to my grandfather who came here as a young immigrant, worked in a factory, created a great life for his family and then my dad who was a small businessman in chicago, worked hard. and i want that story to be true for every american family. and that is the principle motivation that i have in this campaign. people say to me all the time. i mean how do you do it? they see me on tv in one state, then i'm in another state, then i'm in another state. and i'm lucky i can sleep on planes and in cars. so that helps.
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but what it's really all about is getting up every day and being motivated to make sure that every person in this crowd and every person in this commonwealth and every person in this country has the same chance to live up to your dreams, the same opportunities that previous generations of americans enjoyed. >> and that's why we're going to keep talking about what kind of jobs we're going to create. i met the principal of this beautiful school a little earlier. and i met two of her students who are about to graduate right there. thank you both. young man is going into the navy, congratulations, we need you. young woman wants to be a surgeon. thank you. we need you.
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i met another young woman. met another young woman who told me she wanted to be a surgeon and people told her, oh, she can't be a surgeon, i don't remember where she went, this young woman, but don't you believe it. don't you believe it. we're going to lift people up, we're going help every single person in america live up to those dreams. and we're going to do it by creating -- >> all right, hillary clinton in philadelphia, we're going to be honoring her comments there as she's at a voter religion -- registration event in a key state. we'll monitor and bring you what's happening in the event. there's a republican senator who says she's going to vote for donald trump but she's not going to endorse him. how do you square that? we'll tell you if there's really a difference next.
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the senate race in the battleground state of new hampshire is intensifying. you have republican incumbent killy aott which is in a tense battle with the new hampshire governor. but she is not leaning on her republican nominee for help. >> six years ago, new hampshire senator kelly ayot rode a head wave into office. >> you're saying you support donald trump, but you do not endorse him? >> i have actually said i'm going to be voting for him, but i do have significant disagreements with him which i have been very clear on him. so i won't be endorsing him. >> reporter: what's the distinction between endorsing and voting? >> there's actually a big
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distinction. because everyone gets a vote, i do too. but an endorsement is one where i'm out campaigning with someone and so while he has my vote, he doesn't have my endorsement and i'm going to continue to focus on really my race. >> and she is aggressively campaigning up and down the state, key for saving her seat and helping republicans hang on to the senate majority. with democrats only needing a handful of senate seats to take back power, they're seizing on trump's growing impopularity. that has damage senate candidate maggie hasek, linking ayotte to trump. >> she's going to vote for him but she's not endorsing him. >> people should see that statement as it's been said, i don't think anybody who's is supporting trump for the
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presidency should be in office. >> onward to victory in november. speaking this weekend at a rally in manchester for children's running mate tim kaine. but in a recent orc poll believe clinton is not honest or trust worthy and when asked three times, hassan would not give her opinion. >> do you think hillary clinton is -- >> her experience and her record demonstrate that she's qualified to hold the job. >> reporter: does she have it? >> she has a critical plan among others for making college more affordable. >> do you think that she's trust worthy? >> i think that she has demonstrated a commitment always to something beyond herself bigger than herself. >> after this interview, hassan's campaign clarifying that she does think that clinton is honest.
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for her part, ayotte will not say whether she trusts trump with his finger on the butto sparred periodically with trump on issues like his call for a muslim travel ban and his fight with the gold star family, so much so that trump recently called ayotte weak, only to backtrack and announce his support for her a few days later. >> and when he criticized me, i just vet very clearly, which i will continue to do. whether i have his endorsement or not, it is going to be about calling it like i see it for the people of new hampshire. >> thank you so much to manu raju for his reporting on that. coming up -- we are getting new images from inside the war-ravaged city of aleppo, syria. very rare images you will want
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russia says it's "in very active negotiations" with the u.s. to find common ground in their response to the syrian conflict and russia has announced for the first time that its's launched air strikes against targets in syria from a base inside of iran. joining me now to talk more about this, we have cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr, we also have cnn's senior international correspondent frederik pleitgen for us. barbara, we know the u.s. and russia have been in these negotiations for months now. what does this mean, very active negotiations? >> that's a pretty interesting phrase from moscow. it may be very active in moscow's mind. i have to tell you, from talking to u.s. officials here in washington today, not so active maybe not just yet. the u.s. has been talking to ot russians for some weeks and months now about some kind of agreement. could they reach on sharing some of their activities.
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but not sharing information per se about air strikes, not conducting joint operations. the u.s.' priority right now is to get the russians and the syrians to stop bombing civilians in syria especially in these areas in aleppo and northwest syria where tens of thousands of civilians are just in dire, dire circumstances. and these latest air strikes that the russians say came out of iran, the u.s. agrees they came out of iran. russia says they were going after isis. the u.s. says in many of the places the russians struck, there is no isis, and again that moscow was going after civilians. so don't look for any agreement to come very fast. that may be in moscow's mind at the moment. >> fred, to that point, you heard barbara saying that because the u.s. is looking at what russia has been doing. they're saying they are more about backing up bashar al as d
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assad. they're not about necessarily -- they're not necessarily in line with the objectives of the u.s. so when you look at this, that the military of russia for the first time has launched these air strikes against syrian targets from a base inside of iran, what more can you tell us about that and what does that really mean for u.s. objectives? >> well, i think it is hugely significant for u.s. objectives. it also shows you're probably going to see more of an alignment between iran and russia as far as the battlefield is concerned. they're both essentially fighting on the pro-assad side of the equation. you will see a lot more of that, and i think you will also probably see an escalation of the russian air spain in syria not just as the russians say against isis, but also in areas around aleppo that we've been talking about so much as with el. one thing about this base the russians took off from, it is very close to the border between iraq and iran and very much closer to syria than they've had
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before. it cuts the time of these bombers from 2 1/2 hours from inside russia to 30 or 45 minutes. so they can get there much faster and take a much larger payload. so it makes them a lot more deadly. so the russians will be able to do that a lot more. at the same time i traveled a lot to syria. you always had the impression that while the russians and the others were fighting on the same side, they weren't necessarily on the same page, the russians and iranians. seemed as if they sorted those differences are and of course that could become a big issue for the u.s. >> barbara, how big of a shift is this when you are talking about serious negotiations between russia and the u.s.? >> well, as we've all been talking about, these so-called negotiations have really been going on for quite a while led by the state department. it would be very interesting and a big shift if this led to some agreement that really changed
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the facts on the battlefield. whether that happens i think remains a very open question for one major reason. the pentagon, led by defense secretary ash carter, is very skeptical an agreement with the russians. carter has been very open that he is not in favor of it. he understands the state department's negotiating. he knows the white house would like to see something happen. but carter raising a red flag here saying that the russian military, the russian leadership, still very much would have to be trusted on these key questions that we're talking about. for now the pentagon is not so sure it feels it can trust the russians. >> barbara and fred, thank you so much to both of you for your reporting. that is it for me, i'm going to be back here at 5:00 eastern on "the situation room" for our international viewers, amanpour is next. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now.
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thank you so much, brianna. great to be with you on this tuesday. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. first up, donald trump is expected to make a stop in milwaukee in the next hour to meet with members of law enforcement there and veterans in that particular community. keep in mind, this is the backdrop of this visit here. racial tensions, violent protests gripping the city after the shooting death of what police say was an armed black man by a black officer. after mr. trump's meeting this afternoon, he will then be holding a rally there later tonight. critics say the meeting is polarizing, inflaming the growing divide between police and the african-american community. others calling it a surprising move politically considering the latest polling.