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speech, they attack him for not doing it the way they think he should do it. >> i don't think anyone is attacking on donald trump. i think we're giving a read. >> please stand by. i just have to reset. it's the top of the hour. >> it's the top of the hour. this is cnn live, don lemon. you just saw a speech by donald trump, giving a speech on law and order. i'm joined by my panel here. go ahead, corey. >> immediately coming off the speech was did he deliver this in the right community. not let's talk about what he did, which was outreach to african-americans, not talk about our country is at a perilous point, let's protect our police -- >> corey, other people's opinions are valid.
the first person we went to was a reporter who brought up the point. >> to question where the speech was being done. that's not objective. hillary clinton was in scranton, pennsylvania with joe biden yesterday. joe biden talked about african-americans. what's the african-american population of scranton, pennsylvania. where's the equity? where's the fairness? >> she wasn't giving a speech on african-americans. >> but donald trump was also talking about security, violence against police officers -- >> what was the bulk of his speech? >> 80% increase in gun violence against police officers last year. >> i'm not disagreeing with that. what was the bulk of his speech about? >> it was a broad speech, it was about homeland security, charter schools, about economic safety, changes in washington, d.c. and -- >> he spoke a lot about african-american -- >> it wasn't just about that -- >> no one said it wasn't just
about african-americans -- >> nobody said that. we're analyzing the speech, corey. everything can be analyzed. >> go ahead, van. >> corey, i thought that the most remarkable thing about the speech, he said a lot of divisive stuff and law and order stuff in the past, the most remarkable thing about the speech is he said the word african-american at least two dozen times. i don't think you can say he's not aiming the speech in some important ways at new constituency. in general that's a good thing. we have wanted him to reach out. he's doing that. unfortunately, he did it in an arena that made it look somewhat laughable and with rhetoric that was very, very i think disrespectful. the african-american community has other things going on than just crime. the only thing that he's saying about us is we're the victims of crime or we're committing crime and i think that's adds to
stereotypes. >> what he also said was the democratic party has taken for granted and taken advantage of the african-american, and he's reaching out to show what a republican administration what that would look like is better schools, better jobs, stop illegal immigration, which disproportionally hurts the african-american communities. this is donald trump reaching taught say there is a second choice. >> corey, i think what he is trying to aim at, which is i think you are correct, there is a section of the black community that is frustrated that the democrats have not delivered. he is smart enough politically to go after that. but in the execution of it, the way that he went about it i thought was despicable. first of all, he tried to divide us from our latino sisters and brothers. if you have know anything about what's going on in our communities -- >> van, how did he do that? >> he said that the undocumented community, i think he said
illegal community is in here taking jobs -- >> you said hispanic. >> i'm making an interpretation. >> so let's correct that. >> i'm going to make an assumption. >> one at a time, please. >> respectfully, let's get it right. >> duly corrected. i'm going to make the assumption that most people didn't think he was talking about canadians, most didn't think he was talking about swedish models. >> come on, van. >> let me finish. since that's what most people heard, there's been a big healing at the grass roots level between latinos and blacks. there used to be a lot of violence and anger. for him to go and rip that open for political purposes, it's wrong. >> i disagree with that. he said hillary is using her motives to gain other people of illegal immigrants and that does affect african-american jobs. and that's true, van.
i mean, really. there's nothing -- >> guys, i'm sorry -- >> guys, speaking of guys, guy has not said one thing the entire time. so guy cecil, go ahead, i've seen you reacting. >> sometimes silence is the better part of valor. i think this is probably a good example of that. i think context is important here. you have a republican candidate who has brought in 1,100 workers from overseas to staff husband businesses, complain about workers coming in to take african-american jobs, he could have easily hired them in his workplace. you have someone lecturing us about crime, you have someone that's trying to speak about the african-american community but left out the fact that his own company was marking applications for apartments, noting which ones were african-american before outright rejecting them. yes, words are great. whether you like the speech, you dislike the speech, the fact of the matter is that donald trump has had an entire career of
dividing people, of attacking african-americans. just yesterday or a couple of days ago he talked about how some communities, some communities in pennsylvania were going to engage in massive voter fraud. you don't have to be a genius to know what communities he was talking about. whether it's been by inference, by intentionally dividing african-americans and hispanics, a career of discriminated against them or outright bigoted words the fact of the matter is donald trump doesn't have a grasp on temperament or tone or facts or figures and that's why he shouldn't be president of the united states. >> i want kellyanne to get in because i know that you're pained by some of the conversation going on here. >> i can speak the way did? great. that's terrific. let's contrast the last couple of days by hillary clinton and by donald trump. yesterday he gave a very muscular foreign policy speech, he talked to the american people
who feel like we've been at war against terror for 15 years and he said here's the problem, here are the solutions, he is my plan. people may not like it but at least they can read it, they can hear it. he talked about how isis and its predecessor groups have killed 33 people and since the birth in 2013, they've killed 80% of those 33,000 people. we left a vacuum in iraq and libya that allowed them to flourish. so people who want to talk about his style and his this and his that don't want to give him his due. people against him are not going to change their mind. they're going to continue to insult him, lie about him if they want but there are people out there listening to his speeches that he's bringing the messages directly to him through all the noise and silence. this electorate is going to want people to pivot into this --
>> i didn't hear anyone insult donald trump tonight. what i heard was criticism. how has criticism become an insult? >> you didn't hear insulting words? okay. but the minute that anyone says anything about hillary clinton, they're being sexist or mean or a bad temperament. why is there a double standard for that? why are people like she and elizabeth warren and joe biden, the vice president playing political pundit. he spent 95% of his speech on donald trump instead of propping her up. >> i was talking about this particular panel tonight. i didn't hear anybody say anything insulting about donald trump. >> i have a question about kellyanne. >> i will take credit for insulting him because he's been
insulting communities since the first day he launched this campaign when he started talking about mexican rapists. the reason i can call donald trump names and i can insult him back is because i am the sister of a disabled man, and he mocked that disabled man. because i am the friend of a pow and he mocked that p.o.w., because i'm an immigrant, he has insulted immigrants, i'm an hispanic and he as insulted hispani hispanics, and i am a woman and he has insulted women. he threw that rock first and i am responded. >> amen, sister. >> kellyanne has done great job on charter schools and i apologize if you thought i was taking you away from you.
but all too often republicans only talk about what's going on in chicago and other places as a talking point, as a sound bite to either push back on protest or push back on democrats. to me that is not in the spirit of people like jack kemp, who used to actually go to the community as republicans and really be a part of the community and try to help. i'm just tired of seeing the pain that we're suffering being used for political football points by any party and especially by someone like donald trump, who as best i can tell has never shown up, unlike you, has never shown up in these communities on the hard days but he's happy to go to a white community and that was a part of the optics here and talk about us and not talk to us. >> well, i appreciate that, van. >> van, i want to ask -- >> let kellyanne respond. he was speaking directly to kellyanne. >> no, no, but i think it's unfair to judge somebody who is running for office for the first too many and assume he's never gone to these communities. he employs thousands and
thousands of people from all walks of life, from many different countries, from all races, both genders obviously. i think we should take a step back and look at the full measure of the man, the charity work he's done, the donations he's made, the people he's helped overtime. it's difficult when someone doesn't have a political resumé to look at all the speeches they've given, van, lady, gentlemen, i think the question is very fair to ask since hillary clinton has been in public office for decades and none of us can deny some of these very haunting facts, what is she going to do that's so different? why should some of these communities have hope? why shouldn't they just at least listen to donald trump's speech tonight and entertain it? and by the way, i assume that everybody has tvs like we do. it doesn't matter who the audience does. i hope he does go to other audiences. >> i think that was one of the first things that one of the panelists, van, the point that we were trying to make is if you're going to deliver a
message, you should make sure that people receive that message instead it have bouncing off. >> could you look at it as a bouncing start? >> you took umbrage to it and corey took umbrage to it and i think the panel was just having to have a conversation to have people understand that the audience matters. >> this was a national speech. it's not to the audience in that room. donald trump has had multiple meetings at trump tower with african-american leaders from across the country. >> isn't that part of the problem that those meetings were at trump towers? i'm sure you heard the story about him not -- >> how many times has hillary clinton done that and pandered, literally pandered to the african-american community and
said, yes, i've got hot sauce in my pocket. wasn't that a comment that she made? that was egregious. >> that's a good comment for one of the democrats on the panel. >> tonight he gave a very specific message. he said i want to help, i want to show there is a difference to the democrats that have taken you for granted and the speech was much different than that. >> corey, one of the ironies here is i was one of the people when you were out there working for donald trump back in september, back in october, back in november, december i was saying the african-american community could be open to a donald trump message. and i got a lot of grief from it. but i said that there have been failures on the parts of democrats. there is an opening there for someone to come with a new message. the milk curdled in the black community because of the way he talked about muslims, the way he talked about latinos, the way he talked about disabled people, the whole list that anna just went through, kurd ld the milk.
african-americans are very sensitive to people who come across in a bigoted way or who speak in generalities about groups. if you talk about them, you're going to talk about me. the great tragedy is that donald trump took a bad situation, too many african-americans in one party, which is bad for both parties and made it worse because of his conduct. then tonight he had a chance to fix it and he made it worse. >> i disagree. >> you had an african-american president who has had the community to go and do something very special for the last eight years, which is to take african-americans who have a disproportionately high rate of unemployment in their communities and do something for them, empowerment zones, help people back to work and he hasn't done it. the african-american population today is not better off than they were eight years ago. >> oh, we're never going to get to a commercial break tonight. >> go ahead, guy. >> i think if corey thinks that the way that donald trump is going to appeal to the african-american community is by
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donald trump makes a big speech in wisconsin tonight but did voters like what that he heard from him. okay. so, brian, there were lots of attacks on special interests, not to mention the media. is that the right tactic, you think? >> many, many new criticisms of the press. we've seen this from donald trump for several days now complains about the talk against him. i don't know why undecided voters would be more likely to support him because he says the press is out to get him. every time he criticizes the media, it helps inoculate him against criticism and the media.
>> his speech will be heard by millions all across tv and in some ways donald trump and hillary clinton are the noise of the year. it's beyond ironic. >> do you think his criticism of the media is fair? >> you want to talk about it asas opposed to talking about the substance of the speech, instead we're talking about the venue. i think if hillary clinton were to deliver a speech on the problems with washington, d.c. and she decided do that outside of the beltway, no one would criticize her for doing it. nobody wants to look at the messaging which was on point today. just like when he talked about isis, he doesn't have to be in a war zone to give that speech. >> go ahead, van. >> well, look, i think if she
went to give a speech about women and there was only men in the audience, i think it would just be weird. in other words, you guys are taking this really badly and feel like you're being persecuted. i think that optic matters in politics -- maybe you guys don't understand this, on the trump campaign, maybe that's why you're at 1% with the black community. we don't like people talking about us when they could be talking to us. it's a dignity question. >> van, you talk about optics but do you know what matters a lot more than optics than outcomes. the democratic party has said we're the party for the african-americans. it's time for hillary clinton to tell the african-american why in the words of a u.s. civil rights leader they are disproportionately affected by immigration policies put forth by this administration. you talk about putting blacks
and hispanics together, which is crazy because hispanics were never mentioned in the speech, 2 million fewer african-americans in the labor force and yet 4.4 million foreign-born individuals have jobs. those are facts, those are numbers and it's time for the democratic party to explain why they have failed the african-american community, crime, education and the community. >> okay, good, if you want to have this conversation -- >> i'm sorry, go ahead, anna. >> yeah, it is. let me just say it all matters folks. optics matter, words matter, actions matter, records matter. and let's just look at how actually donald trump first got on to the political scene recently. it was by questioning president obama's birth. where was president obama born? a lot of african-americans, a lot of americans period saw that as a dog whistle because it was
an african-american president. let us not deny that he has been the flag bearer since we're in olympics seasons are on where was the first black president of the united states born. let's also take a look at the republican convention or actually i should call it the trump convention because so many republicans i know were not even anywhere near the place and in that trump convention there was something like 18 african-american delegates. there were more african-americans in the choir that opened up the democratic convention than there were in the entire republican convention in speakers at the entire convention. so those things do matter. the fact that it is now september, i have good news for america, we only have three months to go before the election. i have bad news for america. these three months are going to be like dog years. they are going to be extensive and last and they're going to kill us and i recommend that you resort to alcohol to meditation, to prayer, to internet shopping,
sex, whatever it takes to get you through these next through months. but you don't start outreach with a community which you are at 1 or 0% three months before election day. in florida absentee ballots go out in two months. this man has nothing going on with hispanics, african-americans or any other floridian. there is one office in florida. and i think there might be a mar-a-lago. >> okay. i want to play what we've been talking about what he said. let's listen to a little bit and then we can discuss. >> we reject the bigotry of hillary clinton, which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes. that's all they care about. not as individual human beings worthy of a better future. they have taken advantage. she doesn't care at all about
the hurting people of this country or the suffering she has caused them and she, meaning she and her party officials, there has been tremendous suffering because of what they have brought. the african-american community has been taken for granted for decades by the democratic party and look how they're doing. it's time to break with the failures of the past. i want to offer americans a new and much better future. >> he said no, this is for you, mar maria, has been hurt more by the policies than african-americans, by hillary clinton's policies than african-americans. >> there's so many reasons here why this speech has fallen flat. you know, there was a lot of complaints that we weren't talking about substance so let's talk about substance. i will give them hints as to why this speech has completely
fallen flat with african-americans as well as with latinos. first of all, when you talk in hyperbole, which is what we just heard in terms of what hillary clinton and her policies has done to the african-american community, let's remember that she, as well as her husband, bill clinton, have been working in the african-american community for the past four decades. one of the first things that hillary clinton did after she left law school was to go to work for the children's defense fund and a lot of that was to do research undercover to make sure that schools were not discriminating against african-american children. in the 70s she was registering latino voters. so in the speech you talk about how hillary clinton has done nothing and has been a file i f to african-americans -- >> we're saying the democratic policies have failed. you haven't answered that, neither has van. >> i haven't spoken yet.
>> so then when you talk about when this comes from somebody who, as answerna said and i was going to mentioned this, burst on to the national scene by a racist birther movement and burst on to the presidential scene calling mexican rapists and criminals, the hispanic and african-american community are not going to listen to you with open ears, especially when you have done nothing to approach them with respect, with dignity and with openness. has he had one conversation with mothers of the movement? has he one conversation with dreamers or with mixed status families who are afraid of their family be ripped apart. >> you deflect. >> donald trump did not burst on to the scene by talking about barack obama's -- where he was born. if you recall back in 1984 donald trump was part of the reagan team where he was raising money for incumbent u.s.
president ronald reagan -- it's been long before. i know -- >> but his political stature in 2011 was built upon birtherism. >> wa yhat you don't want to ta about the are thousands of hispanics at one of his properties alone. that's a fact. it's unequivocal. no one wants to point to that question. >> kayleigh just -- >> i was going to say let me just go ahead and answer you, corey. >> you have a lot of employees. >> you don't know much about me. >> you have a lot of employees, anna? >> actually, we do. why don't you ask don lemon and maria cardona and kayleigh who stay at my family's hotels in florida, how many hotels we have and how many hispanics, how many haitians and americans we employ and are proud to. so before you attack me least, you at least --
>> you don't even know donald trump, you've never met the guy. >> and i will attack him until the last day of this election because he has been attacking my community. >> you have been a bush supporter and now you're an unhappy loser. >> let me tell you something. let me play my little violin for you, okay? >> i support -- i'm the one that's happy. >> you know what, i wasn't happy that jeb bush lost and it lasted me about a week. after that i started supporting everybody other than donald trump. >> how did that work out for you? >> because i think he's a racist bigot who is destructive for the republican party. >> corey, you are really don't have to go after people personally. you're out of your league when you do that. >> i said donald trump employs a thousand -- >> that was an ad homonym attack on anna -- >> you're so ignorant and defensive that you don't know we
own two hotels in florida and we employ more than a thousand people. >> i have been there and seen those employees. >> okay. k k kayleigh asked a very good question. >> i appreciated her question because she's trying to deal with a really challenge. i'm going to assume she is concerned about african-american unemployment. there's a myth that the reason african-americans don't have jobs is because latinos are here. we're not actually competing in the same sectors often. you see a lot more latinos in the agricultural sectors, rear not really there. you see a lot more african-american in some of the public service and public sector jurors, latinos are aren't there. there is some conflict in some of the public service jobs in some cities. we work very hard to kind of get those tensions down.
i'm concerned about donald trump inflaming those tensions again. but kayleigh is actually trying to do a service to the country to let us talk about facts and figures and there are democratic responses. at some point we should have this conversation. >> can i say this, i don't know how many of us you can actually put on screen. this is how you actually have a conversation. you argue, you fight, you let people talk. some people make wrong talks. this is an actual conversation that's actually happening on television. listen, i was not upset with kellyan kellyanne, but i just like people to answer my questions directly and then i let you go on to make your points. i am really enjoying this. i hope the american people are enjoying us. >> can i say one more thing? >> yeah, go ahead, van. >> kayleigh and corey and mr. trump are trying to put the
democratic party on trial for some of the failures in urban america. i don't a problem with that. a lot of african-american progressives are also trying to put the democratic party on trial but the way the arguments are being stacked and the positives you ever don't say about the party are hard to hear. message management and also mass germanagement. >> and we'll be right back. ♪ ♪
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and we're back now corey lewandowski, and my panel. many people have told me that this will be the message that will turn thing around for him. did anybody agree this was a message that turned thing around for him? i'm going to ask a republican first. so let's ask kayleigh. did this turn thing around for him? >> yes because when you look at polls, the historically is historically low in approval ratings and politicians are historically low in approval ratings. this idea of getting back to public service, not personal
enrichments, the idea that you shouldn't go into office like the clintons and come out hundreds of millions richer. this idea that we're here to serve you and we've gotten away from that. >> he said he wanted senior officials, people who work from him and senior officials from the government to not take speaking things while they're in the government and five years afterwards. >> that was new but the message wasn't fundamentally new, was it? his talk about being an outsider was the message of the primary season. even tonight he peddled what i would describe as conspiratorial idea, saying that her strength and stamina are in doubt. the campaign is out fighting back with a new statement on her physician. these are the things that bubble up on the fringe right wing and
then bubble up to donald trump. >> you're thinking the strength and stamina thing has to do a conspiracy about her health, which there is no proof cease in ill health. >> there's no proof she has a secret illness. sites like the drudge report try to popularize it, it's been irresponsible behavior by the hannitys of the world. when trump uses words like stamina, it reinforces it. >> he said something like is she having a seizure? i thought it was a joke at first but it was serious. >> it's been very reckless so far and it's only august. >> 11% is the congressional approval rating right now, including when you poll members of congress. 11% of the people polled think congress is doing the right thing and the same amount of
people think hillary clinton is honest. maggie hassan was asked on three separate occasions by a reporter from this network and on three occasions, she could not answer that question. she's the democratic nominee for the u.s. senate candidate. >> isn't that the kind of journalism that donald trump dekraa dekraad decries? >> it's putting the surrogates of the -- you see all the time, you see a surrogate do you condone what she said? >> she did make a statement after saying she did think she was trustworthy but it was way too late. >> so much for a rigged journalism. that's why it rings hollow when trump talks about a crooked
media being out to get him. >> anchors and journalist are part of the status quote a and that anchors and journalists want the status quo. i can only speak for myself. i don't believe that. >> there are lots of left-leaning journalists. a lot of reporters would also love to write the trump comeback story. one of the bias in journalism is toward bias and conflict and chang. so if there are signs in the poll that trump is starting to strengthen, that's a story that journalists will want to write. >> corey, you were in the primary when donald trump was doing all kinds of media. i met you in trump tower doing an interview with donald trump. he got so much free media and now he's saying that the media is against him, when the media gave him so much play, so much more air time than anybody else, where he got to just sort of come on and say whatever he wanted to say. but now that it's coming down to
the line, you know, he's starting to be vetted, now he doesn't like it. >> i athink what you saw is donald trump has made himself available to the media, which is very different from the clinton campaign. donald trump understood when the media called, he would sit down and do an interview with you, other members of this network, participate in town halls. many of his opponents chose not to do that, at their own peril. now you're seeing hillary clinton has continued to refuse to have a press conference in almost one full year. donald trump continuously calls into tv shows, continuously does sunday shows. >> that is true, hillary clinton has not given a press conference but donald trump does not call into every television show. >> right now he's mostly just appearing on fox news, he's calling the media crooked every day and calling out cnn on being crooked every day and cnn is
reading back his own words and he doesn't like it. >> you have a candidate that is unacceptable to the broadcast media and print media. he's done hundreds of interviews with the "new york times," wall street journal -- >> why this animus to the media then. >> when the media reports fairly, you don't editorialize, that's fair. when you look at the story with maggie haberman, it was literally the transcript of what he said to her, wasn't editorialized at all, that's fair reporting. >> i have to take you break but you said it's because he's not winning? >> if i were losing in the polls, i would hate the media that were reporting on the polls also. >> the democrats are not in the room. thank you all and the one republican.
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it's good to have you here. it's been a very interesting evening on cnn and i'm sure all across america. >> it's been a little entertaining. >> it's been great. i love having these conversations. >> need popcorn. >> let me get all of your reactions from donald trump's speech tonight. first, what do you think, ed ferguson? >> i think if donald trump would have been using a teleprompter and keeping things short like he did tonight months ago, he would be doing better in the polls. some did not like the venue and you can criticize him for that. but what he said was clear and concise and gave people something to hold on. i think donald trump, if he can continue to do this and that's the big question, can you keep him on script, can you keep him on a teleprompter? can you keep him focused the way he was tonight? and i can you keep it, i think,
concise and small enough and not rambling on that he has an impact and tonight i think he did that. >> let me get the others in. jerry, what did you think? >> from the portion i heard, i agree with the rambling party. he can be concise. i listened to the speech when last he was in wisconsin. he never seems to local size, it's always at 30,000 feet and never to a national audience. you all made a lot of him talking about the black community, the african-american community in broad terms. specifically talk to the people in milwaukee, talk to the african-americans in milwaukee, talk specifically to your audience. he understands a enough larger audience is watching but doesn't connect locally. >> i'm glad you understand the question of what people were asking about in that section. john, what did you think? >> thanks for having me on.
what everyone is missing is this is a political revolution, don. this is a movement. we want to take a trump speech tonight where he very clearly outlined some of his plans that represent a change from the hillary clinton/obama third t m term status quo. if you're satisfied, then you're going to vote for hillary clinton. if you think there's a need for change, then you're going to vote for trump. i believe on november 8th, he'll win. i don't have to play it, if you guys can go quickly, jerry, what was your reaction? you really hammered the media. he's been doing it tonight and throughout the campaign.
what did you think? >> as he himself said, he's running against the media the problem is the media is not on the ballot. donald trump's problem is donald j. trump. look, if donald trump would stop serving them up low hanging fruit, speak in the verbal equivalent of ink blots that anybody can take out of it what they need to, they wouldn't have such an easy time. that is his issue. >> i have to take a break here, everyone, thank you. we'll be right back. , wholesome nuts and crunchy flakes. good things come together to make one great thing. great grains. why be good when you can be great?
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new york times. that's bull. how do you respond to that that nobody believes facts anymore. ben ferguson, first. >> it is exhausting. when i was critical of donald trump in the primaries, not only did i lose listeners, ratings, advertisers. they said i was fact checking and being too tough on him. so it is a tough world right now. if you love donald trump, tlg is nothing that he says that is not true and that is the difficult part for many conservatives like myself who are trying to be honest with the audience without ailating half of the -- alienating half of the base. >> you're shaking your head. >> this is included chris, poppycock -- ludacris, poppycock. they're cry babies and whiners. they want the establishment, status quo, the neal conservatives.
they got their clocks clean and they don't understand it. this is a political revolution, don, that passed them by. their incompetent is egregious. >> it is revolution that is stumbling, though. look at the poll numbers in swing states. part of the reason it is stumbling is donald trump said things that are hard to back up. >> i have to go. ben ferguson, thank you. john fredricks, i appreciate all of you coming on this evening. thanks. >> thanks. >> we'll be right back.
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donald trump makes a big speech to supporters in wisconsin. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. trump speaking on law and order in a weekend of unrest in milwaukee. he made a pitch for african-american voters saying hillary clinton and democrats take them for granted. >> he doesn't care at all about the hurting people of this country or the suffering she has caused them and she, meaning she and her party officials. there has been tremendous suffering because of what they have brought. the african-american community has been taken for granted for decades by the democratic party and look how they're doing. it is time to break with the failures of the past. i want to offer americans a