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"at this hour" with berman and bolduan starts right now. this is the second overhaul of team trump in two months. >> he can hire and fire anybody he wants from his campaign but he is still the same man. >> you say it's not a shake-up, but you guys are down. >> says who? >> polls. >> which polls? >> all of them. >> i think it helps us to be a little behind them. it lights a fire under us. >> pulling two american swimmers off their plane. >> the guy pulled out his gun, he congressed cked it, put it t forehead. >> inconsistencies in the accounts. >> ryan lochte stands w s by hi story he was robbed at gunpoint. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone, i'm kate
bolduan. we want to begin with breaking developments in what some are jokingly calling the next watergate and what could be turning into an international tug-of-war. two american swimmers yanked from their flight before it took off from rio to the united states after new questions have surfaced about their story about being robbed. olympians jack konger and gunner brenz ordered to stay in brazil until they speak with authorities about what did or didn't happen. gold medalist ryan lochte flew back to the united states before the judge's order and now it appears he might be changing some of his story. cnn senior international correspondent nick paton walsh is joining me live from rio along with cnn sports analyst christine brennan, both in rio for us this morning. christine, first to you, what are you picking up what are you learning? >> i think we've got a realhand those stories where what happens is we start to hear rumors.
we hear more rumors and pretty soon we'll have the facts. i'm guessing we will soon have the fact because the three u.s. swimmers still in the state are speaking with authorities we believe later this afternoon. they're in a rio hotel. they're with u.s. olympic committee people and they have legal counsel and my sense is they are going to be able to tell us what happened. whether the gun to the head story is accurate or not or what other story may be the true story. so i'm sensing that a crazy 48 hours or so might eventually come to an end here if those three americans do tell their story and we get a chance to find out what really happened here in rio. >> yeah, a crazy 48 hours. it's turned into, no joke, an international incident, nick. as things are lining up, as you've been following this story, it sounds like brazilian authorities don't believe the story they were originally told. >> no, we now have two sides who really don't want to shift from their positions they've taken
early on. to point out further to what christine was saying, we're hearing from the hotel where they are staying that police arrived through a back entrance there earlier on. they left in a car that only contained the police, nobody else, and then slightly after that, those two swimmers then left their hotel. we've also heard those two have in fact had their passports taken from them last night at the airport. that of course makes it incredibly difficult for them to under brazil's eyes leave the country here. we're getting this broadening sense i think, as christine was saying, the narrative slowly beginning to explain itself. there may well be a lengthy statement from police down the line. we've heard from a source close to the investigation echoing slightly what we heard from the court order that the investigation may not necessarily be convinced a robbery took place here at all. we know the court was trying to assess further whether or not a
false police report had been filed. ryan lochte's lawyer says he has cooperated with anybody who asked him for information. that they will continue to do so. as of yesterday, when we got that statement, they said we haven't within approached again for further information. it's become an international incident. the issue is brazil doesn't really want the idea as the swimmer suggested to be held publicly accepted that men disguised as police officers committed this armed robbery after they left the nightclub in the early hours of sunday morning. the swimmers have suggested that very adamantly, they've tweaked slightly their story. here's one discrepancy which nbc's matt lauer heard about when speaking to mr. lochte just yesterday it. >> he said that's when the guy pointed the gun in my direction and cocked it. and i pointedly said to him, you had said before it was placed on your forehead and cocked. he said no, that's not exactly what happened.
i think he feels it was more of a traumatic mischaracterization. i think people listening at home might feel that was embellishment. >> where are we going to go with this? well, the obvious answer lies with what the police investigation deems has occurred and whether or not the swimmers say they agree with that. mr. lochte is in the u.s. unlikely he'll come back of his own free will. the three here they're not facing necessarily if it turns out there was something misleading going on here, a massively huge misdemeanor. still, it's the public blicity d this, pitting these athletes against brazilian authorities that's made it an embarrassment for everyone, frankly. >> just to the point that nick just ended on, it is not known what the answer is, that's obviously why they're trying to get more information. if, as brazilian authorities seem to be leaning to believe
they made this story up, if they made it up, how much trouble could they be in? >> well, they could be in serious trouble. this would be a false report case. just give you an example. here in the united states if you falsely report a serious crime like a felony, you can be guilty of a felony. in brazil, if it were a sworn statement that was signed, and there are some reports that he signed a sworn statement, if that turns out to be a lie, that could be a serious crime under brazilian law. help mig he might be facing as much as three years in jail. so it could be a serious matter if brazilian authorities put something together here. now, the other thing i wanted to mention was, i think there's an argument there's more than one discrepancy. matt lauer talked about the gun on the head. when i read the statement that lochte made, he didn't say that the gun was placed on his head. he he was a little vague about that. a good lawyer could argue he was just saying the gun was pointed
at his head as opposed to actually touching it. the brazilian authorities are point to inappropriate behavior in the video. >> what do you see in that video? >> i see what looks to be inappropriate behavior for somebody who's just been robbed and almost had their life taken by people posing as police officers. it doesn't look right. but these are kids of course -- i mean, they're young, they're exuberant because they just won, you know, medals. there may be an explanation. it's now how a normal person would react in the aftermath of a serious robbery in a foreign country. >> why there are continued questions here. christine, beyond the legal fallout, what's the fallout for the biggest name here, ryan lochte? if it would come out they made this story up, you think it could be pretty big? >> kate, yes. if the story is made up, big if, if the story is made up, i don't know any sponsor who would ever want to be attached to ryan lochte again. he's 32. he's won 12 medals.
wat one of the most decorated olympians ever. happy go lucky guy. he wants to have a career after this. and while there are other issues that seem far bigger as in international relations in these olympic games and the image of these games, when we kind of drill down to ryan and his future, if this is made up, kate, he is -- i cannot imagine any sponsor would ever want to be near him and the u.s. olympic committee which of course uses all its olympic athletes to come back, why would they ever be involved with him again, again, if this story is made up. >> and that raises the stakes. one question nick paton walsh was also getting at this, this type of crime, it's a problem in rio. there's a lot of talk about this leading up to the games. and brazil know, that. rio officials know that. do you think that is part of what's behind the public perception of what this incident with such high-profile people, the public perception of it, is that behind a strong, such an
aggressive response? this is an aggressive response to armed robbery. >> bear in mind the brazilian authorities are very sensitive to the reputation of their police forces for being fair and enforcing the law as it should be enforced. prior to the olympics, they were doing raids on these poverty-stricken neighborhoods around rio to clean up rio to make it safe for the olympics. and they were very proud that by the time the olympics started, they had largely succeeded in that effort. so now a crime like this committcommit ed allegedly by olympic athletes would kind of -- and, you know, there's always this ting of anti-americanism. it's kind of nice to bring the big bad united states down if they are defaming your country by saying the police can't enforce the law properly. so there may be a lot of that playing in, you know, police forces are very aggressive in brazil and it's not a place you want to get in trouble with the law. >> christine says it seems like
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happening today, hillary clinton set to meet with a group of prominent law enforcement officials from some of the nation's biggest cities including new york and los angeles. a clinton aide telling cnn that they will discuss challenges for police across comes just days a donald trump accused her of being prejudiced against police officers and after milwaukee became the latest city to erupt in protest after a police involved shooting. donald trump and his top lieutenants taking the show on the road in the first major event and first big test since the candidates shook up his campaign hierarchy. he's heading to the battleground state of north carolina for a rally tonight in charlotte.
cnn politics report sara murray has the very latest on donald trump and the overhaul. so, sara, what are you hearing, what trump are we going to hear tonight? >> well, look, kate, we knew donald trump wanted to take his campaign in a new direction. will we see that new direction tonight? that is an entirely different question. he's be campaigning in north carolina. we're hearing he's going to be delivering prepared remarks. this sounds more like the teleprompter trump. more like this establishment trump that paul manafort had been working towards. i think you're seeing the fact that the new deputies brought on board, steve bannon and kellyanne conway are trying to walk a fine line. they want trump to this have blunt, straight-talking style, but they want him to go after hillary clinton on the issues. whether it's dealing with isis. whether it's obamacare. so we will see if he's able to stick to this message of law and order tonight and still rally a crowd when he's speaking from prepared remarks, kate. >> absolutely, sara, thanks. now get back at it.
sara just ran in, she's still busy. kellyanne conway telling cnn the controversial new campaign ceo steve bannon is just the person trump needs driving the train right now. >> i'll tell you what donald trump needs, he needs people who are like him in this sense, you have to be unapologetically, unflinchingly unafraid of hillary clinton and bill clinton and all that clinton campaign means. because we feel like we're up against a major machine here. and we -- you know, you need people girded for battle who are at least willing to, as we like to say, leave it all on the field, give it our best shot. >> let's talk about this. joining me carl higby, donald trump supporter and former navy s.e.a.l. sara johnson, a former official during the 2012 campaign. the former communications director for cruz campaign. and espinoza, a hillary clinton
supporter and head of progress texas. mark preston, we heard from kellyanne conway, leave it all on the field, you got to be unleashed. so it sounds like even though we heard from murray just now, he will be speaking from prepared remarks. unleash trump. what's that going to look like? >> well, you know, it's interesting. >> yesterday. >> it's going to look much different. we were talking about bannon who is basically the head of the campaign right now. kellyanne conway plays an important role. she's very well known in establishment politics. she's a very good pollster. if anyone has not seen the interview she did this morning on "new day," you should watch it because it shows how she's going to try to make trump comfortable with himself at the same time, giving him enough rope to try to do what he wants to do. the bottom line is kelly anne conway's job is going to be make trump feel comfortable to go out and sell his message. at the same time, though, he will then turn to her for advice. believe me, he's going to need a
lot of advice on the road because she's going to be traveling with him everywhere to try to keep him on message. >> no question it seems that kelly anne conway is the best messenger that trump has. we saw that prior to her promotion and we saw that this morning. but, carl, when it comes down to it, a new donald trump, if he wasn't unleashed already, then what was the donald trump we were watching to this point? >> no, your right. what we saw, donald trump was the 100 watt light bulb shooting rays in every direction. now kellyanne conway will take him so he can cut steel -- >> you're confident in that? >> i'm confident. i think he was trying to bring the gap between establishment and his true base. when you bring in bannon, he's the guy trump needs to get on the offense. >> carl acknowledges he dipped in the polls. that he dipped in the polls. wow, that's amazing.
kellyanne conway also talked about the polls and said something very interesting about being down in the polls. she said it's a motivator. she said, i think it helps us to be a little bit behind. it lights a fire under us. it reminds us of what we need to do to get this done. do you agree? >> absolutely. it does. being behind gives you a little street fighting enthusiasm. >> a little behind or 14 points in battleground states behind? >> let's just say she answers that question a lot better than michael cohen. kellyanne conway brings a lot to the table. her background he experience. she can tell donald trump who to attack and who to attract. she understands we need to attack hillary clinton for her support of obamacare and her ideas to expand it. her failures in terms of foreign policy and inability to recognize radical islamic terrorism. and also the need to attract women, first and foremost that is one of her areas of expertise. romney had the ten points down
in the gender gap with obama. and mccain even more so. it's incumbent upon trump to bridge the gender gap and she can help do that quite a bit. also independents. she understands the need to reap out to independents and bring them into the fold. steve bannen on the other hand is just the opposite. he comes to the table with his finger on the trump scale from the very beginning of him walking down the escalator. he is very extreme on his views. and what he -- the breitbart vote, we've got that. that is hay in the barn. we need to expand the message. hopefully donald will listen more to kellyanne than bannon and if so, measure in the right direction. >> alice, now that kellyanne are on the banbandwagon, you're sounding pro trump now. >> he couldn't have made a better choice in bringing someone -- not just her experience on polling but if she's going to be traveling with him and have his ear day in and day out, that is certainly a positive sign but at the end of the day, we all know that trump will be trump and that is what got him to where he is but we're
in a different electoral now. we're not preaching to the gop choir. this is a general election electorate and he be needs to broaden his appeal quite a bit. >> and alice is saying the person to be attacking is focused squarely on attacking hillary clinton. he did that last night. he went after her last night, again, on her stamina. listen to this. >> she doesn't really do that much. she'll give a speech on teleprompter and then she'll disappear. i don't know if she goes home and goes to sleep. i think she sleeps. but -- >> takes weekends off. >> i guess she takes a lot of weekends. she takes a lot of time off. and, you know, that's -- frankly, frankly, it's really not fair. >> what is he getting at, edward? >> it's basically code for saying that she doesn't have stamina for this. in saying those things, what he's trying to imply is that the little lady can't hack it. and that's something that's going to maybe appeal to the
base that he's already got. but anyone with -- any thinking person is going to see right through it and no what he's trying to get at. incidentally, i think trump is older than clinton. >> yeah, he's two years older. >> right, so i don't know where the stamina argument, if he really has a whole lot on her on that. the other thing is anyone who's watched this clinton campaign and prior clinton campaigns knows that she is a workhorse. she doesn't take days or weekends or nights off. she is out there on the road hitting the pavement every day. i don't know what campaign he's watching but it's not the one everybody else is seeing. >> false allegation, conspiracy theory or not, negative stuff like this, his negative branding has worked in the past. are you concerned now this unleashed trump. he focuses squarely on clinton like this that it's going to stick? >> this recent move shows he's rearranging the deck on this sinking titanic. with 80 days left in your campaign, he's on his third
campaign manager. when you're less than 90 days, this is when the american people are starting to pay close attention to this election. i think the attacks on hillary clinton shows that donald trump really has no message that's going to resonate for him in battleground states. mitt romney got 206 electoral votes. this is all about the electoral college. if he's losing in key battleground states like north carolina, florida, ohio and others, i don't really see his pathway to victory. this new unleash donald trump and then we're going to scale him back, listen, donald trump has doubled down on doing what he knows best and that is attacking people and being a very divisive candidate. i think this teleprompter sort of stunt is only going to work for a day or two. next week this time, he'll be insulting more people, more demographic groups. i just think it's not going to work for him going into november. >> i want to get your take as a woman. what about this stamina as edward put it, code for the little lady can't hack it? how does that help? do you think it helps? >> clearly, absence makes the
heart grow fonder. she's doing well in the polls. i think there are plenty of other valid issues that donald trump can attack her on that are going to resonate with independent voters and it's not going to alienate women voters and that what he needs to do. he needs to be focused on key issues, national security, obama case and certainly we can go on and on about her exposing class fewed information. those are valid issues. leave her physical -- or physical health out of it. i think there are more substantive issues that are more valid and will resonate with voters. >> focus is the key there. and focusing on, mark, the next two weeks, we've got 82 days until the election, but the next two weeks what realistically do you think trump can accomplish in making up the problem in the polls in the next two weeks before labor day, especially
when you -- i keep sticking on this, the fact that bannon he brings on has never run a campaign before and he's brought in 82 days before the election. >> it's really funny, during this campaign, we always say the next two weeks are the most critical two weeks. i would argue the next two weeks are the most critical two weeks. here's the reason why though. here's the reason why. because if donald trump can use the next two weeks while penal are people are at their beach, while kids are getting really for school. >> people are at their beach. i like that. >> i'll be sitting here with you unfortunately, but look, the bottom line is, if he can ubs the next two weeks basically to practice, to stay on message, which takes him to the critical moment of the campaign, that first presidential debate. if they can use the first couple weeks to work on themes, to hone his message, take that into september, and then we go into that first presidential debate the third week of september, that's when things are really going to matter.
>> also, donald trump needs to not so much worry about directly attacking hillary but just make questions arise about hillary. it's been, what, 282 days since clinton's held a press conference. make her answer questions. when she starts answering questions, the focus comes off donald trump's negatives and on to hillary clinton's negatives which are very, very high right now. >> he can practice thing, try this practice, carl. if he's made one promise in this election, it's been, i will build the wall. he says it over and over again. the crowds come to his rallies in order to be there be for the moment when they can yell who's going to build it, mexico's going to build it, 100%, he be says. it seems that promise might be changing a little bit, listen. >> we are going to build a great border wall. we're going to build the wall. the wall is going to be built. >> it's going to be a big wall. it's going to be a beautiful wall. >> we will build the wall. mexico is going to pay for the wall. >> how certain does the wall get
built? how certain does obamacare get repealed? >> you can never say 100% but i'm telling you pretty close to 100%, the wall gets built, we need it. >> what, now it's not 100%? carl, we say this -- we put these things together and it is, you know, fun to look at, but that's really actually serious. this is his one main problem. >> think donald trump is going to to everything in his power to build that wall. what he didn't anticipate what the incredible backlash he's getting from within the establishment republican party. he's worried about about the 2017 congressional leaders saying no, measure not going to fund this. he's thinking, i'm going to push as hard as i can to build that wall. he'll figure out a way but he'll try to get mexico to pay for it. >> i was going to say, look, donald trump's campaign has been based upon the fact that i am the smartest, can get things done, get out of my way, i'm going to steam roll you. if his concern now is 2017, then it seems like there is going to be a change in his campaign. >> there might be some reality
setting in, edward. >> then why is he worried about congress not paying for it if his whole promise was mexico's going to pay for it? what this all comes back to, it doesn't matter who's running the campaign, you always still have the same candidate. and no matter who's helping the candidate, the question is, can the candidate help himself from saying things off script that don't make any sense? can he stay on script when people put him there? he didn't do it at the convention. can he do it in the future? the answer is no. and when you have to compare that to the alternative, which is hillary clinton, no wonder she's leading in the polls. she's a much more disciplined candidate with a disciplined campaign and it's really, he's out of his league. >> the best answer to that is can he stay on message, you can never say 100% but close to 100%. maybe that's how we should answer it from now on. thank you so much, great to see you, thank you all. it looked like a presidential cabinet meeting for sure. trump holding a roundtable about national security.
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steve bannon was both present at the roundtable as was my next guest. research fellow at stanford university hoover institution. also with us, former cia intelligence officer david priest, author of "the president's book of secrets." thank you both for being with me. you were at the roundtable meeting. what was your big takeaway? >> it felt like an academic seminar among foreign and domestic experts that could have taken place at a think tank. including mayor giuliani, rudy giuliani who chaired the meeting, and general mike flynn who is a close defense adviser to mr. trump, and so i think it felt like something that i'm used to taking part in, and what i was struck by, the fact that mr. trump seemed very engaged, listening and asking probing questions and there was no
demand for consensus. >> what questions did he have? >> it was really how to think through the various aspects of the global war on terror focused on radical islam, not just a military response, but the requirements of political diplomatic financial and, you know, cultural dimensions that, in fact, it is going to be a kind of whole government approach to defeat isis and the broader fight against islamists and terrorists more broadly. so i like the fact it was a more comprehensive discussion, really a deep dive into radical islam. but it went far beyond that to other defense and foreign policy issues as well. >> david, this roundtable meeting happened on the same day he received his first national security briefing, his classified intelligence briefing. before he was briefed, he -- it might have been the night before even, he did an interview with fox news.
during the interview, he was asked if he trusts u.s. intelligence. here's what he said. >> do you trust intelligence? >> not so much the people doing it for our country. look what's happened over the last ten years. i mean, it's been catastrophic. >> if donald trump doesn't -- or if a president doesn't trust the people -- the intelligence that is being put before him, and you're one of the guys to give the president's all important presidential daily briefing, what does that mean? >> it's a little odd because the lblgs service has set up to be that neutral voice to the president, somebody who doesn't tell the president what he wants to hear but their assessment of what the situation is. so saying you don't trust the intelligence people before hearing your first classified intelligence briefing, that's like ranting about a restaurant's food before even being allowed in the building.
>> you haven't taken a position on it, on these candidates. do you feel comfortable with both of these candidates having the nuclear codes? >> it's an unusual year in terms of the intelligence where you have one candidate, hillary clinton, who has been criticized by the fbi director for being careless with classified information. then you have another candidate who appears to say what he thinks as he thinks it. that makes for some interesting intersections with the intelligence. in terms of what they do with the intelligence, that's something we should hear from candidates themselves. how will they change their policy views if the situation on the ground itself changes. >> a lot more questions and maybe two days to ask questions of these candidates. thank you very much. coming up, it's being called the worst american disaster since superstorm sandy. the biggest daily newspaper in louisiana is calling on president obama to end his vacation. why they say it's time for him to visit the site of the deadly disaster. plus, the stunning video putting a new spotlight on the chaos in syria. this heart wrenching story behind the dazed and bloodied
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katrina. does president obama deserve criticism this time? let's go to cnn's rosa flores live in livingston parish, louisiana. >> we see a lot of those pictures, a lot of those areas, they're very impactful. when you start listening to the stories of the people impacted, then that's when it really pulls at your heart strings, because a lot of these people not only were they trying to escape the raging waters, some of them were actually volunteering. they were serving. like the homeowner here. i'll tell you about her in just a moment. i just want to show you the effort here. they're trying to get everything out of their homes because all of this was soaked and of course they're trying to salvage as much as they can. but of course we hear this time and time again that it's the mementos that you can't replace. and pamela's here with me. and pamela, i've got to say, you were in a control room volunteering, active national guard, when you learned that
water was rising in your community, going into your homes. and of course what you're thinking about are those mementos. >> right. >> i want you to share the story of this photograph because it was so important to her that this is making her happy today, the fact that she has it. >> it is. this is a picture of my daughter. and she's holding a picture from when i had the same teacher in first grade. and this is a pretty old picture now. my mom always gave all the teachers these little dolls whenever she'd visit her homeland of thailand. so, you know, that was really special that her teacher would send something like that. this picture is old so for me to be able to find it, to be able to have it, you know, that's pretty awesome. >> it's a very emotional time so thank you so much, pamela, for sharing these things with us. and, kate, just before i let you go, she lost everything during katrina. so she was telling me that she was trying to regain some of those important photographs. that one she shared with us just
now, one of those very, very important ones. >> a bright spot in a very, very dark situation. please send pamela our best. thank you so much for bringing us her story. let's continue -- i want to continue the discussion right now with peter kovac, editor of "the advocate" who put out the editorial we read to you at the top of the segment. just heard from pamela and she kind of brings it home, the devastation and really what's important at times like this. why did you all want to put this editorial out, this letter to president obama? >> you know, in 1965, lyndon johnson was president during hurricane betsy. and he received the call from russell long who urged him to democr come to louisiana and president johnson said, don't worry, i'll send my best man. russell famously said, we don't want your best man, we want you. and president johnson was in louisiana the day after i believe hurricane betsy and he went into a shelter that was darkened and had no electricity
and it was night and he shined a flashlight in his face and he said, i'm lyndon baines johnson and i'm your president and i'm here to make sure you get all the help you need. and i don't know, i guess they don't make presidents like that anymore. >> you guys make comparisons. in this article, you make comparisons to the damaging criticism president bush faced after the flyover of hurricane katrina. no one forgets that. do you think obama deserves the same criticism here? >> well, i think history will judge whether he deserves that same criticism. i think he can still come here. this is a disaster -- the magnitude of this disaster requires federal leadership. it requires federal intervent n intervention. this is a poor state. a lot of people have lost everything they own. and, you know, we're going to need help just as we did in katrina. >> would you feel differently, would the message be different do you think if president obama
would be at the white house right now rather than on vacation in martha's vineyard? would it be different for you? >> i think when you need presidential leadership, you need presidential leadership, and when you sign up to be president, you know, you sign up for a 24/7 job. >> have you heard from the white house after this was published last night? >> no, we've not. >> you clearly wanted to send a message to president obama. what's your message in putting it out to your community? >> well, our message is that this is like hurricane katrina, you know, the magnitude of this hasn't been determined yet. but it will require federal aid and it will require some kind of federal program beyond the standard stuff of the stafford act in order to help people recover their homes.
the federal government told people they didn't need flood insurance and they weren't in flood zones and then they flooded and so the right hand of the federal government tells you you don't need flood insurance and the left hand of the federal government says sorry, you didn't have flood insurance. so we can't compensate you for the loss. after katrina, there was one of the few things about which there was a bipartisan consensus, was the idea that new orleans needed to be rebuilt, and that was supported by democrats and republicans. and we need that same thing here. >> need the attention, you need the eyes, you need the help. peter kovacs, thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you so much for having me. >> thank you. coming up for us, he was -- he's just 5 years old and he's already witnessed horrors that no one should ever have to see. the story behind this stunning image captured in war-torn syria.
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. >> omran is left inside that ambulance alone, bloodied as rescuers go back into the rubble looking for anyone else who may have survived. his family did. this comes just a week after the last remaining doctors inside aleppo wrote a letter to president obama begging for help. today the yund nations is asking for 48 hours of relief in the
fighting, a break in the violence between the government regime and government forces. in five years of war more than 250,000 people have lost their lives including 4500 children in aleppo alone. millions more displaced without a home. now that includes omran. what strikes me is we shed tears, but there are no tears here. he doesn't cry once. that little boy is in total shock. he's stunned. inside his home one moment and the next lost in the flurry, the fury of war and chaos. at least three people were killed by this bomb in this neighborhood. this is omran. he's alive, we wanted you to know. she spent summer binge-watching.
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