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cameras and electric fencing. it may not be easy to steal an election, but an election sign? jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> there's your moment of levity. i'm poppy harlow in for erin burnett. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. joining us on this friday evening whether it's a new zika virus travel warning in miami beach and swimmer ryan lochte's apology and new e-mail headache for hillary clinton or donald trump's new pitch to african-american voters, there is a lot happening in the next two hours tonight. we begin with another day for change or of change for donald trump. he started by ditching his campaign chairman and he ended the day just a few hours ago with another appeal to african-americans made in a lansing, michigan, suburb that unlike michigan itself is 95% white. more now from jessica schneider. >> what do you have to lose by trying something new? like trump.
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>> reporter: donald trump making a passionate pitch to african-american voters telling this mostly white audience near east lansing, michigan, that democrats have been the ones keeping minorities down. >> america must reject the bigotry of hillary clinton who sees communities of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. hillary clinton would rather provide a job to a refugee from overseas than to give that job to unemployed african-american youth. >> trump started the day in baton rouge, criticizing the president for staying on vacation on martha's vineyard during the worst natural disaster since super storm sandy. the white house announcing just as donald trump's jet took off that president obama will travel to the devastation on tuesday, but donald trump didn't let up.
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>> obama ought to get off the golf course and get down there. >> in hillary clinton's america the system stays rigged against americans. >> reporter: trump's first tv ads hit the air today. the campaign spending $4.8 million over the next ten days for ads in the battleground states of ohio, pennsylvania, north carolina and florida. >> donald trump's america is secure. terrorists and dangerous criminals kept out, the border secured, our families safe. >> campaign spokesman brian fallon tweeting in case you thought for a split second trump was genuine about feeling regret, he is back to demonizing immigrants in his new ad today. trump's sharpened tone comes as his new team takes over. sources telling cnn manafort trump he was becoming a distraction and wanted to end it. >> jessica joins us now. has trump addressed the manafort resignation? >> reporter: you know, anderson,
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donald trump hasn't spoken about it, but has released a statement saying he's appreciative to paul manafort especially during his work during the convention and delegate process, but interestingly, the clinton camp has pounced on this is aing the resignation of paul manafort is not the end of what they're calling the odd bromance between donald trump and v leladimir pu. anderson? >> bakari sellers and executive director angela rye and trump supporter, kayla mcmainy and andre bower and our own john king, chief national correspondent and "inside politics" anchor. trump has talked about african-americans and he's doing it to an overwhelmingly white crowd. he doesn't seem to beic making much of an effort to go to any place where there are african-americans to speak
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directly to people. >> he has 80 days to go and let's see if he does it and see if he goes to inner city detroit and if he goes into inner city philadelphia and it is interesting and i know you have some skeptics and i'm waiting to hear what bakaris about this. if he itself once or twice in a speech that's not enough for any community that feels like in many cases, not all, but in many cases feels most of the republican party has ignored them. donald trump is getting 1% or 2% among african-americans. mitt romney was pathetic, and george w. bush got 11% in 2000, the last republican to win the white house and what is donald trump up to here, anderson? any candidate, i hope would like to get more votes in any community. so if he can get a little bit more on the african-american community and if turnout among african-americans drops just a little bit in the first post-obama election, that helps
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donald trump, but there's something else at play here, too. a lot of independents for you is intolerant. if they see he's reaching out and making a genuine effort and not just one or two speeches, maybe it help among independent and moderate voters. >> i want to play of what donald trump said and how you respond. >> i'll say it again. what do you have to lose? look, what do you have to lose? you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. what the hell do you have to lose? >> is that a message actually you think for african-americans or -- >> i don't think that we've seen a candidate that is more uncomfortable around people of color in recent history than donald trump. i think that -- and i would hope that kaylee and andre when we get to them would agree that maybe donald trump had something to say, but that was definitely
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not the way to say it. i think that donald trump and, i actually spoke to some of my friends today who are not overly excited about hillary clinton and they heard the same con descending critic that i heard. i dare not repeat that today. donald trump has a lot of work to do showing that he has policy prescriptions for a lot of the ills that he talks about. he didn't lay those out, but he actually has to learn how to speak to african-americans with dignity and respect. first, there is an entire middle class of african-americans. we are not all destitute. we are not all impoverished. we're not all sitting on our beheapb behinds at home. african-americans want to achieve the american dream. they get up and work hard every single day and yes, some of those people don't work for donald trump and that's some of the retorts. oh, my god, do you see the people that work for him? i think what you saw today in that speech is why diversity matters because if donald trump
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had someone in his inner circle reading that speech that was a person of color they'll say look, i know what you're trying to say, but that is not the best way to say it. >> did it surprise you to say that? >> no. this is more of the same from a candidate that has demonstrated over time. i remember saying from the outset that i thought that his language was racist and bigoted and i remember getting heavily criticized and over time we've seen that message to remain true. i think the biggest frustration i have with donald trump and it's not just unique to his campaign. it also, i think, extends to the gop at large is when you hit them back with what are you talking about democrats are the ones who are the mayors and the local elected officials and local inner cities, that is not the only problem. we have state legislatures that are republican controlled and these issues are not unique to either party. racism knows no bounds. so to me the frustration is if we want to have an honest conversation about progressive policies in it country to uplift communities of color, we have to deal with the institutional racism that is not unique to
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either party. >> hillary clinton just tweeted a response to trump's message. i want to put that up. this is so ignorant and staggering. do you think there is a chance, kaylee that african-americans might find donald trump's message insulting? >> not at all. take it from tavist smiley who said under the obama administration blacks are failing in every single economic category. don't take it from me. take it from a black conservative commentator larry elder who came out with a staggering number that under three years of the obama administration we saw the average wealth for an african-american is now at 11,000 and for a white american, it's 13,000 and that is a 13-fold difference. when he won the black community in overwhelming numbers, dr. martin luther king said something very powerful that it was time for kennedy to make good on the promisory note. they were going back to bill clinton and he won
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african-americans by 80%. they have failed this community and they are struggling, a 13-fold wage gap and failing schools. it is unfair. >> does it sound like he's painting with a broad brush saying your schools are failing and you're living in poverty and things can't get any worse for you. >> no. that's a lot of people's reality. >> no, it's not. >> i don't think any of us can speak to the -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> i'm not going to speak for bakari and you don't know the districts that he's represented. you don't know the members that i worked for and the areas that they represented. no, i am not from the inner city and my parents were never on food stamps and i don't know what it's like to be on welfare or have to have cared about welfare reform, but i know people in my family who have had these struggles and i am so disrespected by what he said today and i am further disrespected by you putting at the feet of president obama the wealth gap. i just talked about institutional racism for a reason. we have to stop living in denial
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and acting like the first black president got into office to discriminate against black people. that is not what happened. >> it is -- >> he is the first black president. >> we had george h.w. bush and we had ronald reagan and after that we had w. this is about everybody in between. this is about racism and they -- >> tavist smiley -- >> why is he wrong? >> because tavist smiley and cornell west have been legitimately wrong when it comes to barack obama for a very long period of time. those are personality differences and character issues that we dare not delve into tonight. so i do discount what tavist smiley says and what dr. cornell west said. >> the clintons and -- you know african-american wealth during the 19 -- african-american wealth during the 1990s went up. african-american wealth and the income inequality gap that you're talking about -- >> you know what also happened? i know you don't want to talk about the crime bill.
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>> the crime bill. >> there was a -- disparity! >> let me tell you this. i'm from denmark, south carolina. we have three stop lights and a blinking light. we are on the quarter of shame where kids go to school where their heating and air don't work and where their infrastructures are fall apart and teachers are pushing carts and they're underpaid and these are african-american children that are punished because of that zip code and on top of that and they're predisposed to diabetes and cardiovascular disease. this isn't just where i live and this is in compton and flint, michigan. donald trump went to detroit and outside of lansing, the suburbs of lansing today and he talked as if there's not a republican governor of michigan. there is. i mean, he talks as if there's not a republican-controlled legislature in michigan. it is. so i understand that you want to lay the blame at the feet of
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whomever whether or not it's martin o'malley in baltimore or whomever the mayor may be of detroit and i know you want to lay the blame because it's an easy cop-out. >> democrats have had control of michigan. i am so glad you brought up schools bakari because your candidate doesn't support charter schools and donald trump is for school choice and that's where poverty starts. it starts in the schools. >> and let's talk about your candidate and you talk about the great years under the clinton administration. they incarcerated a lot of young african-americans and she called this group super predators. >> first of all, use the context of the sentence and not only that, but i criticized hillary clinton and will criticize her from this day forward about the usage of the term super fr predators and it doesn't have a place then or now. when talking about drug cartels and gangs she said i arc apologize. i shouldn't have used it and she said back then it was wrong and it was wrong today and it was an
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affront to many african-americans and if he can't own that, what are we talking about? >> you can't just quote one martin luther king. >> andre, i can see exactly where -- i'll tell you where i did trump did really good. he knocked it out of the park and i had an african-american chief of staff and i tried to do what i could as a republican. the republican party can do something for them. we have the right message, but we haven't done what we needed to do. donald trump is making baby steps. he didn't do it the way i would have done it. i would have liked to seen the approach and the verbiage different and he is at least making an effort to move. >> as someone who spent 20 years working on conservative politics and who was actively involved in minority outreach from the time i was 18 years old i have repeatedly seen the failure of the republican party properly message the r policies.
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absolutely i believe that conservatism is better policies to help everybody including black america from school choice and the empowerment zones, but jack kemp was really one of the people who went into communities and was present. you cannot expect to sit there and con descend and preach at people in an all-white audience in an all-white town telling black folks what they should or shouldn't do when you haven't had one interagz. he's had an opportunity to speak in front of the naacp and the national black publisher's association. >> urban league. you would think urban league would be a natural place because it's business and he's done none of those things and this is pandering. somebody told him you better write this into your speech and that's not going to help our values whatsoever and african-american community is not going to listen. donald trump is a terrible messenger on this and having people that have never had interaction with black folks and living in communities and
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the line that's getting a lot of attention. >> i'll say it again. what do you have to lose? look, what do you have to lose? look, you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. what the hell do you have to lose? >> john, i want you to take a look at the latest poll. it has him with only 2% of the vote for african-americans. what does he need to do to change that? can he change that given there are 80-some days left? >> it's very difficult. to tara's point being present is what matters. you can say this is cynical on donald trump's part and i can give you a cynical political argument that if donald trump can get more and if turnout drops, i can give you the okay as andre says he's taking baby steps here. i don't read minds so i don't know what the sentiment behind this appeal this week for trump is, but if you're at 2% in the polls among african-americans and african-americans turn out anywhere near where they turned
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out in 2012 which was down from the history making year of 2008 and then you lose the presidential election. period. if african-american turnout is significant in cleveland, it's hard to win ohio. if she does well in the suburbs where hillary clinton is doing well among college, white educated suburban women, if hillary clinton has the obama coalition and get high african-american turnout in the cities and in the suburbs. don't forget the middle class and go to prince georges county, maryland and other battleground states. this isn't just about inner city african-americanis and make the mistake of overgeneralizing sometimes, but in the democratic coalition if the african-american vote turns out and it's 95% plus or 2% plus for hillary clinton and in cleveland in philadelphia and charlotte, game over. >> it is interesting, bakari, that when donald trump does talk about african-americans it is -- he's just talking about inner
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city and even the portrait he paints of life in the inner city, it has no nuance about people working hard, about people working multiple jobs of all of the variety of life that is in any community. >> think that -- i know tara has worked in congress and so has angela, but one of the things they get with the people they worked with is finding a positive story about the group of people that you're talking to and that's been missing and the disconnect that donald trump is having is one of on eye know he can't quite get the empathy and it's one of sympathy and recognizing that i'm 31 years old and my father literally was shot and imprisoned in the massacre during the civil rights movement. we are only a generation away from that. we are only one generation away from jim crow, segregation and oppression and degradation first deep south and the george wallaces and the water hoseses and the dogs and the little girls in birmingham and jimmy
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lee jackson and the list goes on and on and on. boom, 1968. in 1968 we're not that far away. we had the massacre and robert kennedy and martin luther king jr., died in that same year, and all of those things happened and he's having a hard time understanding how far we've come and that way he cannot put together where do we go from here? cnn just wrote a great article and it was in cnn money and he talked about african-americans at the rate we're growing today it takes us 228 years to catch up to white families. 228 years. so to kayleigh's argument and andre's argument and whoever wants to lay the argument to the back breaking policies that ain't it. >> you might think 27.2% poverty rate among african-american individuals, larry elder, cited that number. you might ng that's a good thing, but -- >> when did you hear us say that? that's not fair. >> it is horrific. >> kayleigh, can you retract that. that's not fair. >> to say how they will be
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different than barack obama and how they will get african-americans out of this vicious cycle where you're in a failing school and then one-third of african-americans are in poverty and that is horrendous. it's time to live up to the promises that have been made to this community and everyone deserves a shot to the american dream. i have to correct something you said. donald trump was positive and he said african-americans have fought in every single war and they've raised the national conscience. you don't want to hear good things from donald trump. he was very good today and he was on the cutting edge of civil rights at mar-a-lago. >>. >> wait a minute -- [ indiscernible ] >> civil rights and mar-a-lago don't go together. >> i know what you said. you lied. mar-a-lago, he was the first person to allow blacks and jewish individuals into his -- into his club. in fact, he brought a lawsuit against other clubs part of which allege they weren't allowing. >> after he got sued for spousal
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discrimination. >> why didn't he rent to african-americans? >> why didn't he rent to african-americans? there were a lot of federal lawsuits brought then and -- >> twice. he settled twice. time out. there are two things that i need to address. one, kayleigh, i really want you to retract that the poverty rate was a good thing. >> bakari sat here last night and tonight. >> so you're not going to retract it. >> that's fine. >> you're not going to retract it. that's fine. i did not say that. so, viewers, i did not say that. number one, if you want donald trump to stay something that's meaningful for black people and i'm not going to be the spokesman person for all black people don't. he can apologize for the the howing discrimination for the department of justice and he can retract that and parks apologize for that and he can tell me he
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never meant to say the legal fees of the guy that punched the black man in the face and the rally and he can apologize for the indian man thrown out today. he can apologize for the full-page ad and i am just getting started and i haven't even got to last july. donald trump doesn't just have a messaging problem and he has a message and belief problem and he has to hear it from more than rhinestones and polyester and his two -- that go out on the trail today. >> i will go there with you all day. >> it was at an all-white golf course and the naacp leader came out and said this is horrible. you have to come out and apologize for this. >> two weeks ago a florida republican gop staffer was kicked out of a donald trump rally because he was black. >> it was a krim bill that put a lot of african-americans in prison. >> agreed. horrible. >> and called them super predators. >> i believe they have
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apologized for it. did your candidate speak to the naacp? >> no. >> that is what was delivered under the democratic administration. that is why allen west and tim scott. >> allen west? >> jim scott doesn't even support donald trump. so -- >> and actually jim scott is the same senator who went on the senate floor talking about the times he's been racially profiled and a concept that donald trump won't even acknowledge exists. >> he has acknowledged that it exists. >> maybe it got confused with the several other times that called people that look like me thugs. >> i wanted to do this. >> i'm sorry. >> i think what we saw today was we saw the bannon impact on donald trump because what kayleigh was about to walk down is a very dangerous nationalistic rhetoric path in which you begin to pit these groups against each other. one thing donald trump said today and it made me perk up
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when he said you're a refugee in your own community. by pitting the african-american community in these quote, unquote cities that are pla blatantly lazy and have no jobs against refugees and against hispanic-americans and against immigrants and what you're trying to do is drive a wedge and that's a very dangerous political philosophy. the question is whether or not that will work, and i doubt it. >> do you know who that is? he's a u.s. civil rights commissioner who sat before congress and said illegal immigration is harming the black community and he cited the statistic. 2 million more black men and women are in the workforce. yes, 2 million fewer have jobs while 4 million foreign-born people found jobs. that is a fact. illegal immigration -- >> you know who provides jobs to foreign workers? your candidate. >> democrats have ignored it and it's a shame. >> no, kayleigh, you keep making these blanket statements that we have ignored things or support certain things because we're pushing back on the rhetoric that you're using.
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bakari's point is very dangerous. i pushed back and told you what your candidate can do to get more black support. you can take it or leave it. >> i don't think -- take notes. >> they're not monolithic. african-americans are not monolithic. is it possible for republicans to make inroads to african-american communitiecomm. >> i know gowdy and tim scott are making reforms throughout the south and paul ryan. >> there is a way to do it, but to bastardize and to demonize and to con descend is not the way and i don't want people to think there is not a way. >> this right here, this is the problem with what the republican party where they have failed like i said in the messaging. constantly making it balkanizing the different racial identity groups. yes, it's true that illegal immigration hurts lower income african-americans in certain communities. yes, all of those statistics are true, but donald trump is talking in such a narrow tunnel
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vision way that all black people are poor and live in the city. he didn't address anything about home ownership or black-owned businesses. he didn't address anything how black-owned female businesses were the fastest growing businesses under george w. bush and now they're not under barack obama because of the failed economic policies and he's not talking about those kinds of things and he's balkanizing and engaging in leftist identity politics and it's frustrating to hear this. >> we will have a lot more to talk about coming up. there is breaking news. a judge rules that hillary clinton will have to answer questions about her e-mails under oath. we'll have more on that ahead.
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the scrutiny continues over hillary clinton's e-mails when she was secretary of state. the state department's relationship with the clinton administration. secretary clinton has repeatedly defended both aspects of that controversy. still, there will be big changes at the foundation, she says, if leched president and tonight there's breaking news on the e-mail scandal that just won't go away. joe johns has the latest. >> another development keeping the e-mail story alive, but there was a small victory in there for hillary clinton.
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a federal judge in washington ruling that she must respond to questions in writing and a freedom of information lawsuit over her e-mail server. lawyers for the conservative group judicial watch had asked for permission to interview her under oath. the campaign tonight saying it is happy with the ruling, but calling out judicial watch for its pursuit of the clintons since the 1990s and describing the case as just another lawsuit intended to hurt the campaign. meanwhile tonight, more on the clinton foundation and the effort to clean up the optics. >> former president bill clinton trying to avoid any actual or the appearance of conflicts of interest announcing he will resign from the board of the clinton foundation if his wife, the former secretary of state wins in november. the foundation taking an additional step saying they will also no longer accept corporate or foreign donations. >> beert schweitzer documents how bill and hillary used the
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state department to enrich their family at america's expense. she gets rich making you poor. >> the foundation has come under scrutiny for close contact at the state department while hillary clinton was secretary. >> has hillary clinton apologized for turning the state department into a pay for play operation where favors are sold to the highest bidder? >> reporter: the clinton campaign fatly denies any pay to play allegations. in fact, the candidate has defended the foundation's work. >> we have so much that we are proud of and i will put that up against any of the innuendo and accusation coming from donald trump because the work that has been done has garnered accolades and appreciation from every corner of the world because it has been so far-sighted, visionary and effective. >> republicans jumped on the new announcements. the rnc releasing a statement saying if everything was above
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board while hillary clinton ran the state department as hillary clinton said then why change a thing? also of note, mr. clinton who has stopped giving paid speeches, and he'll keep it that way if he's elected. the clintons have amassed a whopping $155 million combined from paid speeches since leaving the white house since 2001 all of this as new details are emerging on mrs. clinton's controversial e-mail server. the new york times reporting that she told the fbi it was colin powell her predecessor at the state department who advised her to use personal e-mail. the times cites an excerpt from a new book saying that at a 2009 dinner party hosted by former secretary of state madeleine a l albright which he had sent and received via a state department computer. today's powell's office said in a statement that he had no
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recollection regarding the statement and said at the time there was no equivalent system within the department to use a secure, state computer on his desk to manage classified information. >> joe, on that point, we should reiterate there are differences between how secretary powell and clinton each used their e-mail. >> absolutely. the times have changed, anderson. big differences between powell and clinton's e-mail. powell entered the office in 2001 when e-mail wasn't as popular as it was in 2009 so there is a question there of evolution of standard practices and powell also never had his own private server which hillary clinton did. >> joe, thanks for your reporting. coming up, ryan lochte says he's sorry and the latest in the apology he's posted on instagram and the new developments from rio next. now get free go-go inflight wifi on your smartphone. lift off, power up, text it, browse it, work it. we got you covered.
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there's more breaking news tonight. jimmy feigen the fourth u.s. swimmer is on his way out of brazil. u.s. swimming has weighed in on ryan lockty and two other swimmers saying they don't condone the lapse in judgement and conduct that led us to this point. yesterday brazilian police said
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lochte's account of being robbed at gun point wasn't true that they vandalized the rio gas station and ryan lochte has apologized for his behavior. nick paton walsh. >> reporter: ryan lochte took to instagram saying he a ppologize for, quote, my behavior last weekend for not being more careful and candid in how i described the events of that early morning and for my role in taking focus away from the many athletes. at least one of them vandalized the station. they were confronted by security officers off-camera, money reportedly changed hands. lochte had publicly described the encounter as an armed robbery. >> they pulled us over. they pulled out their guns. they told the other swimmers to
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get down on the ground and then the guy pulled out his gun. he calked it a ed cocked it and forehead and said get down. >> they reached an agreement with the armed guards to pay for damage e damages. he said, quote, it's traumatic to be out late with your friends in a foreign country with a language barrier, he posted and have a stranger point a gun at you and demand money to let you leave. >> we obviously, accept his apology. >> the international olympic committee chiming in, as well. >> it is clear the brazilian population felt humiliated. >> lochte has been back in the u.s. for days and one of his teammates bore the brunt and brazil's mayor says he feels pity and contempt for all of them. james feigen was not allowed to leave brazil after he paid nearly $11,000 to a sports charity. police say feigen and his lawyer
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agreed to the donation during a court appearance. jack conger and gunnar bentz returned to the u.s. just this morning. the two were pulled off their original flight by brazilian authorities wednesday. they were given their passports back only after giving statements to police. all of this as the u.s. olympic committee tries to clean up the mess left behind. in a statement it said, quote, the behavior of these athletes is not acceptable nor does it represent the values of team usa. the usoc stopped short of saying its athletes lied and their security guards displayed their weapons and demanded a monetary payment, the statement reads. >> nick joins us now from rio. so how is this apology from lochte being received there in rio? there were a lot of folks that were offended. >> we have a clear reaction from the usoc's apology about the conduct, okay, thank you, apology accepted to some degree. the broader issue here is that
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armed robbery is no joke in this city, anderson. as you well know this is a country plagued by petty crime that often leads to murder. that you might try to exaggerate something to justify vulgar behavior and that gas station is offended particularly at a time when brazil is very much on edge to make sure its image is as burnished as possible for these games and at the same time we have this very messy moment and it comes down to who felt what and this negotiation what happened about paying money to calm the situation down. at the end of the day ryan lochte has done a big disservice to his reputation here and it comes down to had he not given that interview suggesting he was held at gun point with the pistol to his forehead this whole issue wouldn't have turned into four or five days' worth of international diplomatic wrangling and its occupied most people's attention at the games and it's highlighted the crime that rio wished wasn't so much part of its daily radar and its
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taken attention away from the sport damaging the image of team usa. >> nick paton walsh, thank you so much. joining us is the sports analyst christine brennan. i understand you are getting new information from sources about possible disciplinary actions for lochte. >> that's right, anderson. i've been working the phones and talking to people involved with the decision making and this is the u.s. olympic committee and usa swimming and i am certain that ryan lochte will be susp d suspend suspended. he has not been suspended yet and that decision may not come for a few days. they have to get everyone back and it's not just one athlete and it's not just michael phelps with the marijuana picture and that was a three-month suspension by usa swimming and swimmers may be suspended and it might be usa swimming doing the suspending or the usoc doing it together, as one, there is no
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doubt that discipline will be strict. it will be tough on them. the u.s. olympic committee is very angry and usa swimming. we saw it in their statements and they were unhappy that the games were hijacked for almost a week by this drunken rampage of these three americans, obviously, late early actually on sunday morning. >> after this apology from lochte, do we know what kind of impact this may have or is having on sponsors? >>. >> we know we've been trying to reach sponsors. they've been going quiet. one of them, interestingly said, anderson, that they're going to follow the lead of the u.s. olympic committee. well, i am certain that the u.s. olympic committee is going to end up suspending ryan lochte or in concert with the usa swimming, as i mentioned. so if you're following the lead of the usoc then that tells me you're not happy and you may well want to eventually drop him so we don't know yet for sure. we also know that the apology
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may have helped. i had one person tell me that the only way for ryan lochte to not have a lifetime ban would be to apologize. they were waiting for that apology and they have now, of course, received it, but it was a bit of an explanation and an apology, hedging on some things and i'm not so sure that everyone's happy about that, either. >> right. throw all of that in the mix, anderson, there is a lot going on. >> he didn't cop up to details to what he actually did. this $11,000 payment that one of the swimmers, not lochte, agreed to pay to a brazilian charity as part of the deal to avoid prosecution, what more do we know about that? it went to a good group which has connections to the olympics and to judo. >> exactly. it helps children who are learning judo here in brazil. my sense, as a pr situation, and really to me this whole story has become all about public relations. we're never going to know exactly what happened. >> right. >> there will be a he said/he said going on the whole time.
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we know that, but my sense is if these other swimmers want to start doing good work they'll also be doing that and ryan lochte who again, for those few days basically nothing. we understand the legal side of it, but this is in the court of public relations and at this point i think ryan lochte should be probably thinking of doing some of those things, as well. >> a lot of kids in need in a lot of communities in brazil. he could do a lot of good. christine brennan, thanks so much. >> more breaking news and a new zika warning for popular vacation destination here in the united states. plus, an update on the little boy, dazed, confused and bloodied after surviving an air strike in syria. some well in news about how he is doing and think, so many others' stories have yet to be told when we continue. an ordinary experience into an extraordinary one. get great offers at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2016 es 350 for $329 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month's payment. see your lexus dealer.
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cases in florida to 36. a lot to discusses with dr. sanjay gupta. what do you make of this warning? spra explain what it is. it seems really incredibly scary. >> yeah. it's unpress didn presprecedente type of travel advisories based on health concerns. before this most recent travel advisory, for that winwood neighborhood, we hadn't heard of something like this in the united states ever advising people not to travel to a particular u.s. city because of health. here's what we are talking about. you can see in the past the winwood area in the center of the screen, miami beach, that's on the right side of the screen, those are the sort of hot areas they are talking about where they know zika is spreading, the mosquitos. as you point out, what the cdc director said was that really, we are suspicious about the entire miami dade area. we don't know for sure but there's enough suspicion to say hey, look, unless you have to be there, don't go. >> so that's the message from
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the cdc director, don't go? >> the message is with regard to the hot spots, those areas where we know for sure it's spreading. you absolutely should not go. the other areas, unless you have to be there for some particular reason. we are concerned about the risk. i asked him quite a bit about this. he said look, it's an informed decision which is a tough thing with information that is so new. but take a listen. >> pregnant women and sexual partners of pregnant women may want to postpone or delay travel to other parts of miami dade. the issue there is that it's an area where they are looking hard for zika, they are finding some of it. there have been other isolated instances of local spread of zika and when zika starts to spread it may be two or three weeks before there's any way to be sure it's spreading. we are just providing that information openly, transparently so people can make an informed decision. any time we travel anywhere we look at the risks, we look at the benefits and we make a decision that's right for us.
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we are saying that certainly for these two one-mile areas, we really urge you not to go and for women living in those one-mile areas to do everything possible to avoid mosquito bites. >> that's obviously the big concern for people who are actually living in the areas. miami beach obviously a very popular tourist spot. lot of people live there. how exactly is the cdc saying people should avoid these mosquitos? you were down in brazil recently. i was just down, i got bitten by mosquitos. you wear bug spray but it's inevitable. >> i can't imagine what it's like for a woman who's pregnant, particularly living in one of these areas. that's their home. pregnant women are told not to go there but what if you already live there? it's tough. first, south beach, the southern part of miami beach, south beach is not known for long sleeves and long pants, that's for certain. even if you do wear bug spray, if you don't apply it often it's a real concern. these women have to stay indoors a lot. many of them leave that particular area, the hot spot areas, while pregnant but it's
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challenging. as you point out, this is a relatively small area in the united states but there are large swaths of countries like brazil where they are going through this exact thing. they don't get to leave. >> thanks very much. no doubt we will report on this a lot down the road. an update on the little boy who grabbed the world's attention this week after his home was destroyed during an air strike in aleppo, syria. we told you about him last night. he was covered in dust, alone in an ambulance sitting in shock, wiping blood from his face. no tears, not even a tear when he got stitches, we are told for the wound on his head. we are told only after his parents rushed to the hospital that he finally broke down and cried. a little boy who has only known war back with his parents tonight. we are told recovering. in the next hour of "360" trump's new outreach to african-americans. why hillary clinton calls it ignorant and staggering. what former trump campaign manager cory lewandowski has to say about it. l moments. flonase gives you more complete allergy relief. most allergy pills
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