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welcome to sunday. so good to see you. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. new day starts right now. shamed u.s. swimmer ryan lochte says he's to blame for an incident at a gas station turning into an olympic international scandal. trump made an aggressive play for the african-american vote. >> i want our party to be the home of the african-american voter once again. the "new york times" unraveling donald trump's global finances, reporting the businessman has twice as much debt as previously disclosed. raphael's mother is pregnant in miami, where zika is
spreading. >> i don't want to be outside unnecessarily. ♪ welcome again to sunday. also ahead this hour, after two weeks of olympic competition, the closing ceremony is tonight. coy wire is live in rio with what we can expect, coy? >> reporter: put your dancing pants on. the closing ceremony will be a celebration. simone biles will bear the flag for the u.s. the skies in rio are weeping this morning because it's the final day of the games. u.s. swimmer ryan lochte says he is, quote, 110% sorry. the four-time olympian called himself immature. he says he, quote, over exaggerated his story of being robbed at gunpoint in rio. >> this is why i'm taking full
responsibility for my actions, because if i didn't over exaggerate the story to what i said when i did it when it first happened with billy bush and yourself and i told you the full story, none of this would have happened. >> lochte started with an apology directly to the people of brazil, telling global tv that he was sorry that he tarnished their olympic games. he admitted he called real lay world wide distraction. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, victor. much of what ryan lochte said to nbc, he then reiterated in his interview saying he didn't lie, he over exaggerated, but very much apologizing to the nation here. this is a nation, remember, that initially was very embarrassed when these reports of these alleged attack on the swimmers
came out. that embarrassment then very very quickly turns to anger. the rio mayor saying he felt nothing but shame and contempt towards the swimmers. it's a very interesting move airing this interview last night after the brazil/germany football final. waiting, wanting to use the audience that had been gripped to the football match, the one gold medal that the hosts here really wanted to win, to then use that moment to put out this ryan lochte interview. you suspect that's probably done ryan lochte something of a favor. they probably aren't going to be won over by his makeover, the change from the bleached blond hair back to the dark hair very neatly combed. but the celebrations of that football victory were going on
here until the early, early hours. and ryan lochte may be in many people's minds glossed over this morning. >> ryan lochte spoke with nbc's matt lauer in a little more than 20 minutes. brazilian police say he was nothing more than a vandal. >> how do you feel about the way you've handled yourself since early sunday morning when this all went down? >> since everything that's happened, i've kind of being laying low. i had those statements. i talked to you. but before i wanted to go out on camera, i wanted to really make sure these other guys came back on u.s. soil. which i just found out that's why i'm doing this today. jimmy just came back.
he was the last person to come back. >> let me play devil's advocate for a second. had you come out and set the record earlier, gunnar and jack may not have been stopped and had their passports impounded. couldn't you have taken away a lot of their problems? >> by all means. this is why i'm taking full responsibility for my actions, because if i didn't overexaggerate the story to what i said when i did it when it first happened with billy bush and yourself and i told you the full story, none of this would have had happened. >> when you talked to billy on sunday afternoon, you didn't tell him the whole truth. when you spoke with me on wednesday night by phone, you didn't tell me the whole truth? >> i left details out, and which
that's why i'm in this mess, is i left certain things out and i overexaggerated some parts of the story. >> one of the things you appeared to embellish with belly is you said at some point after you refused to sit down, the security guard put the gun to your forehead and cocked it. that didn't happen? >> that didn't happen. i overexaggerated that part. >> why did you do that? >> i don't know why. it was still hours after the incident happened. i was still intoxicated. i was still under the uninfluencu influence. i'm not making me being intoxicated an excuse. i'm not doing that at all. i shouldn't have said that.
the gun was drawn but not at my forehead. it was toward my general direction. as you can see in the surveillance, that's when my hands went up. >> you told me on the phone, we are victims here and we're happy that we're safe. in the police press conference they said, not victims, they're vandals. how do you feel about that? >> it's how you want to make it look like. whether you call it a robbery or extortion or us paying just before the damages. we don't know. all we know is there wasg gunpointed in our direction and we were demanded to give money. >> if i asked you the same question and say, were you robbed on sunday morning rio,
how would you answer that? >> i can't answer that. i don't know. because i was intoxicated, so i don't know. all i know is there was a gun pointed at us and we were demanded to give money. whether it was to pay for the damages of the poster, whether it was extortion or a robbery, i can't -- i'm not equipped to like tell you that. >> gunnar in his statement to police said, at some point someone who spoke english walked over and offered to help translate this altercation. and he made it clear that the security guard was telling the four of you, you need to pay for that stuff, that damage before you can leave here or i'm going to call the police. you understood that at that time, didn't you? >> yeah. so then we had to give the money. >> right. but at that point, it's not a robbery. at that point, you're striking a deal. you're striking a deal to pay
for what damaged you've caused so he doesn't call the police and this doesn't become a bigger incident. isn't that fair? >> we just wanted to get out of there. there was a gun pointed in our direction. we were all frightened and we wanted to get out of there as quick as possible. the only way we knew was to say this guy wants you to give him money. >> that's not a robbery. a robbery is when some guy targets you whether armed or not, to take your money and belongings and valuables. this guy was negotiating a deal because of what happened in that walkway and you guys were on the other end of that negotiation. >> people can see it in many different directions. all we know is there was a gun pointed to us and we were demanded to give them money, end of story. >> the first version of the story you told ryan was much more about the mean streets of rio. and the version we're hearing
now is much more about a negotiated settlement to cover up some dumb behavior. >> and that's why i'm taking full responsibility for it, is because i overexaggerated that story. if i had never done that, we wouldn't be in this mess. those guys would never be in rio or were in rio. none of this would have happened and it was my immature behavior. you know, we just finished. we were wanting to celebrate. and we haven't been drinking or anything like months before that. and i definitely had too much to drink that night and i was very intoxicated. none of this would have happened if i didn't do that. >> on the other side of this, we've got hanging in the air here for ryan lochte not only his endorsements but his future
in this sport. he says he still has more to accomplish if given the chance. let's talk about if this could force him into early retirement. first of all, as you listened to that, what stood out to you in this interview? >> it's good to hear ryan lochte take more responsibility for this incident that basically took over five, six days of the olympic games. he is saying much more and that's what he should be doing. clearly he has got a p.r. firm working with him and what a terrible job they have done. the apology that was more of an explanation came out a couple of days ago. it was long, it was winding, it was still trying to explain things away. he apologized to his sponsors first before he apologized to
the people running the rio olympics. that was clearly not well received so now they're coming back with this. it's hard not to look at ryan lochte and say he's doing this only because he has to because he realizes how much trouble he's in. >> so you believe he is sorry? >> it sounds like he's sorry, but the motivation for being sorry -- i think this avalanche of negative publicity has hit him. he's a swimmer. he's 32 years old. he's not a teenager. there's so many questions to ask about his behavior based on his being 32 years old. but to have prodepositifessionad you, this is a man who is suspended and is trying to get a lesser suspension. >> he did talk about his hopes
for the future, saying that he wants to continue swimming if they allow him to do so. we know michael phelps came back from two duis and look at where he wound up. he did that because he was contrite, he took responsibility. do you think that is possible for ryan lochte? >> i think it's possible that he will swim again and be able to be a spokesperson for usa swimming and show up at events and do meet and greets that all alums kind of do. there's no guarantee that he was even going to be able to make the 2020 olympic team. i can't believe we're talking about that. he's 32. he'll be 36. he's still got a lot of issues facing him including suspensions and things like that. >> christine brennan live there from rio.
coming up next hour, the rest of the ryan lochte nbc interview. why he says he can still be a role model. we've got breaking news coming in overnight from southern turkey. an explosion, the tragedy here at a wedding celebration. now known to have killed at least 50 people. nearly 100 more have been wounded. now, this video coming into cnn shows dozens of people. you see them scrambling here in the dark. ambulances, rescue workers trying to help the people. turkish president, who you'll remember survived an attempted milita milita military coup about a month ago. there's been no claim of responsibility officially yet, but we'll have more on the situation when the information
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let's talk money specifically. she has a major advantage with fund-raising over donald trump's last month. clinton pulled more than $58 million into her campaign. trump pulled in about $38 million. no debt on his campaign books. let's talk about this with lily garcia. she's the president of the national education association. also jack kingston, senior advisor to the trump company and former congressman from georgia. let's talk about the numbers, just the headlines here. $58 million coming in july to the clinton company, about 38 to trump. donald trump is the candidate who has more ground to make up. it appears he has less money to do it. how does he either make up enough money to fight on the field that clinton has set, or does he do it with much less in
a different way? >> i think we're going to have to do it with much less. we don't have the wall street money. we don't have the big special interest groups that are funding hillary's campaign and have funded her entire political career. our donations are a lot smaller, more grassroots. he won the republican primary basically on earned media. you're not going to be able to do that in the general election. but still donald trump is somebody who at his rallies gets 15,000 people. hillary clinton gets 3,000 people. her over head is a lot more. she has 700 paid employees. we are a much more nimble, grassroots organization. we have to be. but our fund-raising, our total numbers in july was about $82 million. part of that was withcommittee. we're raising money now. this weekend we've seen donald trump has been in north carolina. he's been in fredericksburg,
virginia. hillary clinton i think has been on martha's vineyard, not going out and seeing the people, but fund-raising. there is a different style and different approach. >> we'll get to that different style in a moment. let me come to you. as the congressman brought up this point, much deeper payroll, much larger organization, her burn rate higher than donald trump's. is she spending too much money? >> donald trump can't make up this ground, because he has no ground game. she does. she has the most amazing team. she has the most amazing volunteers that are out there knocking doors. a lot of them are educators. i represent 3 million educators that work in public schools, colleges and universities. we know what's at stake here. and the whole interesting
phenomenon about rallies, the kind of media attention that donald trump is getting from the things he's saying at rallies is not resonating with the public. you can take a look at any polls, in fact all of them. and what gets applause lines at a rally is the laugh line with the rest of the public. they're not buying what he says. >> the suggest is the free media here is not helping donald trump. >> absolutely not. i think we can take a look at the polls and see this. >> let me play
this ad that came out from the rnc about hillary clinton. then we'll talk about it on the other side. >> welcome aboard hillary clinton's liberal elite summer tour, with frequent stops in beverly hills, hollywood and cape cod. please use caution when opening the over head bins as hillary's
baggage may ha baggage may have shifted during flight. >> it's where hillary clinton is raising her money that the donald trump campaign believes could be an inroad into some of those voters that donald trump's trying to attract. >> she's got small donors, large donors, she's got people who are investing in a future that we believe in. we believe in things like public education and public services. that's why we've got people all over the country willing to walk neighborhoods and do whatever it takes to make sure she gets elected. i think they have to shift the discussion. they have to get people to, like on that ad, stop actually asking about issues. because when you look at the issues, she's got plans and he's got slogans. he's got nothing. >> the argument is that where hillary clinton is going to get
her money is from the elites on the east coast and the west coast. >> and everyone in between. she has been raising money from people who really want something better for america. that's why they're donating. >> we need to take a quick break. pcountries thatk mewe traveled,t what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm everything.
back now with lily garcia, president of the national education association and a clinton supporter. and former georgia congressman jack kingston who's a senior advisor to the trump campaign. i want to start with you, jack, trump sitting down with a group of hispanic leaders across the community. this is an advisory council. but the statement from the rnc says he met with the group to ensure the hispanic community, quote, understands mr. trump's proposals. from my understanding, an advisory board is to offered a vice, that the candidate listens to their advice. shouldn't this be the other way around, that he listens to them instead of simple telling them what he believes? >> absolutely he listens to them. i don't think we need to trip on words. the engagement is extremely important. he's going to start doing this
more and more with african-american leaders. he's reached out and said look at the economic policies that we now have. we need jobs in our communities around america. we have 94 million people who are underemployed or unemployed. we have 43 million people on food stamps. the household income has fallen from $57,000 to $53,000. we have the lowest homeownership rate in the last 50 years. if you want a third term of barack obama, then you have somebody who's standing by ready to give it to you. but if you wanted change and you want something different, then we need to elect an outsider, somebody who's not bought and paid for by wall street and special interests. >> seems to be a bit more disciplined here. some of those wild tweets have been curtailed. he's now on teleprompteleprompt.
your concerns about what seems to be in some way some discipline from donald trump? >> this one hits home for me because he has insulted immigrant families like my own family. you can't put that back in a bottle. you can't mask that with a teleprompter speech. it doesn't matter how many people advise him on what not to say, we already know how he feels. we've heard all the racist rants, the sexist rants. i'm a sixth grade teacher from utah. anyone of my kids saying half the things he said this year would be on detention for bullying. this is immature behavior. it's unacceptable. this is not only a man that's not qualified, he's not worthy to be president. i'm glad you brought up the out reach to minority communities. he cannot fix the damage that he's done. it's why he's not going to win
and it's why he has to go on these extraordinary trips to go to people and say, i didn't really mean what you heard me say. yes, he did. >> thank you both. we'll continue this conversation. what we saw again for a fourth consecutive day, donald trump also reaching out to african-american voters. we'll talk think about next hour. also talking to susanna craig, reporter of the "new york times" report on donald trump's finances. she claims he owes twice as much as what's been indicated in election filings. and whmortgage rates fell t week. the five year adjustable inched up. here's your look. ♪
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12 time medalist ryan lochte now says that he overexaggerated his story of being robbed in rio. he said that he and three other swimmers were robbed by a man dressed as a police officer, that a gun was cocked and placed to his forehead. now he says the gun was never placed to his head, but it was still pointed in the general direction of the swimmers. he says he has already learned a
lesson. coming up next hour, the rest of the ryan lochte nbc interview. why he says he let his teammates down but he can still be a role model and has more to give the sport. hillary clinton is revealing more of what she'll do if she wins the white house. perhaps this is coming out now because of the numbers that are coming in. 41% of registered voters say they would support clinton if the elections were held today. only 37% would back donald trump. this of course comes down to state by state numbers, some of which this country hasn't seen in years. i want to show you the new cnn electoral map showing you she's doing well enough that she could lose every toss-upstate and win th the election. >> those numbers can change on a
dime. there are a couple of big events that we know from past experience can in fact move the polls, starting with the debates. there's going to be a debate. those of us who have been around for a while have seen candidates basically throw away their chances by misstating or having a poor performance in a debate. that first one in particular is going to be very important. that's coming up in late september. then there are the outside factors that no one can anticipate, including re ining floods, terrorist attacks. in 2008 the economy crashed right in the middle of the campaign. all of those things can be factors. this is going very much hiktdll clinton's way. donald trump's folks are probably not getting a good night's sleep tonight or any other night, because the chance
for victory is looking very much out of reach for donald trump. >> you mentioned floods. we've been seeing that in louisiana. red cross calling it the worst there in history since sandy. and we saw trump there over the last few days. we have not seen tlikhillary cln there. is something like that going to make a difference, the fact she's going to be in hollywood and beverly hills fund-raising this weekend and she hasn't made a stop there in louisiana? >> i don't think so, because she has no particular role to play. the president of the united states is going to be there on tuesday. that's going to get all of the attention. to the extent that trump keeps talking about the obama/clinton administration and trying to link the two of them, she'll sort of ride on the back of the president. whether his trip is successful, whether he gets excoriated for not coming sooner, that may blow
back on her. but the mere fact she hasn't thrust herself into the middle of it, i think isn't going to hurt her at all. >> she is talking about job creation, immigration, boosting infrastructure, about fulling her cabinet with an equal number of women and men, a cabinet that she says will be consistent of diversity. when you think about her being in the white house, or donald trump, whoever's there, could be immediately be tasked with filling a supreme court vacancy. how does she build a relationship with republicans on capitol hill? >> my sense of it is that she is going to try for the biggest possible victory, not just for herself, but for some of her fellow democrats up and down the line. that includes trying to get majority control perhaps with a commanding majority in the senate and either trimming or eliminated the republican majority in the house of
representatives. as she herself has said, there's nothing like a victory to help focus people's ability to negotiate. i think when she comes in, it will really be important how resounding her victory is if there is a victory. just squeaking by is very different from having what could be called a mandate for change. most political professionals have to sort of take -- have to at least recognize if the country is going in a different direction. the numbers that you just showed, if they hold all the way through to november, suggest the country is going in a different direction. after two weeks, the summer games in rio are coming to an end. coy wire still living the dream there on copacabana beach. what can we expect today? >> reporter: victor, team usa is coming back to the states with a
us, though? >> reporter: i thought you guys were coming down to me. there are 12 more gold medals remaining. the u.s. has crushed the competition, already with 43 gold in total. last night it was the most decorated female track star in u.s. history adding to that count, 30-year-old allyson fe x felix. team usa six straight olympic gold in this event. this was felix's sixth gold medal of her olympic career, extending her most golds ever by any female olympic athlete. gwen jorgensen broke down in tears after crossing that finish
line. she said she was thinking of all the sacrifices made by her support team, including her husband who abandoned his own pro cycling career to help her. u.s. women's basketball team with another olympic m.c. hammer moment. you can't touch this. taking the gold again, that's their sixth straight in the olympic competition. they're 49-0 winning streak dating all the way back to 1992 when young victor blackwell was just about 11 years old. the men's marathon wraps up the track and field events. and the closing ceremony where the olympic flag will be passed to the next game's host, tokyo in 2020. >> m.c. hammer reference, huh?
reached back for that one. back when coy had hair. >> that could be said for two people. >> i'm freshly bald. >> so you've been there for how long? what is going to stick with you most? because this has been such an experience for you. >> reporter: it has. i got here august 1st. the events were incredible, the food and the passion of the people. but it's those one on one moments with some of these elite athletes and hearing their back story. they have been through adversities on their own and to see how they have over come them to triumph and become stronger through their struggles. devastating flooding in
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arena packed with cots there, hoping to one day go home. i want to bring in cnn meteorologist derrick van dam now. any sense of when the relief will come? yesterday we said there was a chance of flash flooding. today more rain. how long does this go? >> yet baton rouge got about 3/10 of an inch. today, i wish i had better news for you, victor, and everybody watching from this flood-ridden area. this has been a tough week for louisiana. i almost don't want to show you these maps, but basically what's taking place here is we have a draped frontal boundary between louisiana and texas. the bulk of the rainfall today really across texas, but a few of those showers and thunderstorms shoucould spread
south and central sections of louisiana where they were hardest hit with the flooding. the really heavy rainfall across the central sections of texas. you could see the national weather service has lifted several of the flood warnings. however, we still have advisories in and around baton rouge. you can see the flash flood warnings taking place from san antonio all the way to the mexican border. that's the latest rae dadar. you can see the bulk of the heavy rainfall draped across this region. this area is extremely low lying so it's a slow retreat of water. >> let's go to the west coast and this blue cut fire. lots of destruction there in california, more than 100 homes destroyed there. what's the progress there? >> firefighters have made a considerable amount of progress on the blue cut fire, it's 73%
contained. they had a full arsenal of firefighters attacking these flames with engines and chinook helicopters. we had 37,000 acres burned so far. at one point this was burning at about 500 acres per hour. it seems donald trump made a donation to flood relief in louisiana. his campaign says he gave $100,000 greenwell springs baptist church. the company says trump also donated the truck of supplies that he and pence are unloading here. >> you're wondering how can you help? that's why we appreciate our
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the aftermath of the interview, you're fired, says who. who else says who? either trump's attorney was in denial about the polls. >> or doing his best impression of an owl. >> the exchange even inspired knock-knock jokes. knock knock? who's there? says. says who? the polls, hashtag all of them. so you're losing this race. says who? the clocks. which clocks? all of them. there was even a poll pitting says who against all of them, all of them won by a landslide. in the wake of brianna's interview, trump's attorney told yahoo news i think i unravelled her. hmm. let's take a poll on that. says who? which polls? >> all of them.
>> just a little bit of humor for you on a sunday morning. thank you so much for starting your morning with us. next hour starts right now. in his own words, shamed u.s. swimmer ryan lochte says he's to blame for an incident at a gas station turning into an international olympic scandal. trump made an aggressive play for the african-american vote. >> i want our party to be the home of the african-american voter once again. >> the "new york times" unraveling donald trump's global finances, reporting the businessman has twice as much debt as previously disclosed. raphael's mother is pregnant in miami, where zika is spreading. >> i don't want to be outside unnecessarily. we're always so grateful to
see you on a sunday morning. let's start with u.s. swimmer ryan lochte telling the people of brazil he is, quote, 110% sorry. this happened in an interview with global tv. >> he said in part, quote, to the gas station owner, to brazilian police torks t, to th of rio and brazil, i just want to say i'm truly, 110% sorry. >> it will not happen again. i've learned from it. i want you to know i love all of you, you treated me with so much respect and i'm sorry my immaturity caused this much ruckus. >> in an interview matt lauer asked him why he left his teammates behind in rio as that controversy was just starting to explode. >> when you saw the news
coverage of gunnar and jack being taken off that plane at the airport and you knew they didn't damage anything in that gas station. and you're sitting at home in the united states safe and sound. how did it make you feel? >> hurt. i mean, i let my team down. you know, i wanted to be there. like i don't want them to think that i left and left them dry, because they were my teammates. i wanted to definitely be there. and i wanted to help out anyway i could. so i just wanted to make sure they were home safe before i came out and talked. you know, i'm just really sorry about -- i'm embarrassed for myself, my family, especially those guys, usa swimming, the
whole olympic games, everyone watching. it's just -- i was immature and i made a stupid mistake. i'm human. i made a mistake. i definitely learned from this. i'm just really sorry. >> jimmy feigan was made to pay, i think it was about $11,000 in restitution, kind of a charitable donation because he made a false statement in his original statement to police. and the area of the false statement was he said, he was asleep in the car and he never went back in that walkway. do you think it's possible that jimmy made that statement so he wouldn't have to tell on you, that he wouldn't have to say, i saw ryan back there tear that framed advertisement off the wall? was he trying to protect you? >> i don't know. i can't speak for him. i don't know. i just know that they're back
home, safe. and i owe them and the entire world that had to watch this for the last week of the olympic games, something that i understand, especially those athletes that we put all our energy and time into this, and i took away from their accomplishments about this story, about me being immature for one night. i took away from that. that's what, i think, hurts me the most, is that all that -- everyone's just watching my immature antics. and i'm just -- i'm embarrassed. >> what about the people of rio? they dealt with all the
headlines going into the games about pollution and violence and crime. and here come this is story with one of the highest profile u.s. athletes saying i got held up at gunpoint on the streets of rio. what would you say to them now? >> how sorry i am. and my deep est apologies. they put on a great games. they did everything. the people of rio, of brazil, the authorities, everyone there, they put on a great games. and my immature, intoxicated behavior tarnished that a little. and i don't want that, because they did a great job. the fans were amazing. i know going out into my races, they were all cheering for me. so i'm just really sorry and i hope they can accept my apology. >> there have been calls by some
who say you should be banned from swimming. it's a pretty pretty strong punishment. what do you think should happen? >> i mean, that's not my call. it's usa swimming, the usoc. it's the board. it's what they decide. all i know is i learned my lesson from this. i definitely did. and i know this will never -- these kind of shenanigans or whatever you want to call it will never happen again. and i love this sport. i've dedicated my whole entire life to it. it's not who i am. and i'm not done with this sport if they let me -- like there's still more i want to accomplish in the sport. and all i know is that i'm going to move forward from this and learn from this and better
myself and making sure that this never happens again. >> i've been listening to come of the commentators over the last couple of days, ryan, talking about endorsements. and they're saying that this one poster on a wall or this one urinating in the bushes could cost you a lot of money. >> it could. and that's something that i'm going to have to live with. that's something that i'm going to have to deal with. but i know what i did was wrong and i know i learned my lesson. all i can do now is better myself and making sure that this kind of stuff never happens again. >> do you think if you stay in the sport and they allow you to keep swimming and grow to tokyo and you perform well, can you begin to erase the damage to your legacy that's been done? >> i think so. i know so.
if they give me that chance, i definitely know i can turn this around and become that role model for little kids. i don't want little kids to look at me for what i just did, for that one night. i don't want that. or the whole entire united states or the entire world for that matter. i don't want them to look at me, he was a drunk frat boy or anything like that. i want to be a role model for those little kids. i know that i can change that. >> you heard what ryan said there. he's not done with swimming as long as they're not done with him. the question is, is the sport done with him? joining us now christine brennan, cnn sports analyst and columnist for usa today. do you believe he can still be a role model?
>> if i were usa swimming, i would bring him into every team camp, every olympic trials when the team is put together and have him tell this story in all its gory details. he should be used as a cautionary tale. that will be a very valuable thing. sounds like that's what held like to do. i would use him as the image and the epitome of the anti-role model to show the next generation of swimmers what can happen when you're representing your countries internationally. this is an entirely different environment. i would use him that way, to they will this story in all its detail and maybe scare young swimmers so that nothing like this ever happens again. >> for those avid fans, for those athletes that look up to him, does he have to go to tokyo and win again in order to erase this, if that's even possible, or to show that he's over come it? >> yeah. great question. i don't know that he's going to
make it to tokyo. i would have said that even before all this happened. he's 32 years olds. he would be 36 in tokyo. that's a big four years for a swimmer. he did win one gold medal here in the relay. his olympic trials a month or two ago and his games here were nowhere near as good as the previous olympics. he's certainly on the downside of his career. anything's possible as we've seen, but when he's suspended for some length of time, then if he has a chance to come back, sure he's going to have a shot at it, but i think it's very difficult for him to come back as a swimmer. >> when we look at this interview, he gets emotional when he speaks about his teammates. when we're talking about repercussions and the consequences here, should he be banned? you say he's going to be suspended for some length of time.
should he be banned? and should his punishment be different than the other three? >> i think it will be didnffere than the other three because of the nature of his behavior. the other three were much younger. if they're banned for three to six months, which were michael fephelp phelps's time period, i think they could come back from it. the usoc are looking for an apology like what michael phelps did, quick sussinct and total. >> so appreciate your input on this story. thank you so much. breaking news now and this
is coming from southern turkey. an explosion at a wedding celebration, now known to have killed at least 50 people. nearly 100 more have been wounded. dozens of people scrambling in the dark. the turkish president there who you'll remember survived an attempted military coup a month ago says isis is behind this attack. donald trump makes another plea to black voters, to hispanic voters. why he says republicans need to do better in courting those votes and details on a meeting he had with a hispanic advisory board. zedetails about the zika virus, causing one more to drastically change her daily routine.
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hillary clinton continues to have some advantage here in the race for the white house, specifically this time as it relates to fund-raising over donald trump, looking specifically at july, clinton pulls in more than $58 million, about a half million dollars in debt at the end of the month. compare that to donald trump, who pulled in about $38 million, no debt there on his books. good morning to both of you. donald trump has more ground to make up in the battleground states across the country, less money to do it. how does he do it?
>> he's working with the rnc. and we're going to be providing the infrastructure that he needs. there's infrastructure that's been very valuable that the rnc has put in place since implt201. working with him and working with him and his company, we are reaching into the different areas of the communities and we're talking specifically the hispanic and minority and african-american voters, going to them where they work, worship and live to get the message across that these are deserve values and principles that are of benefit to them. when you look at where minorities are over the last eight years, there's no question about it that the obama policies have been failed policies despite all of the promises. hillary clinton is going to be continuing those policies. we're going to change that. >> you talked about the 2014 infrastructure.
that assumes that those 2014 participants support donald trump. and we know that there are still some cahaschasms there. >> there are a number of democrats and independent voters who are supporting mr. trump and see in him someone who comes from outside the professional political class and is a successful businessman who speaks to the man on the street and really understand what is people are feeling. that provides an enormous balance and advantage to this republican ticket. >> let me add to that point there where you're characterizing donald trump as a billionaire who speaks to the man on the street. the way that we're hearing from the rnc that they are characterizing hillary clinton's fund-raising, is that she is going for the elites and not the
man on the street. i want to show you this ad out from
the rnc overnight. >> welcome aboard hillary clinton's liberal elite summer tour, with frequent stops in beverly hills, hollywood and cape cod. please use caution when opening the over head bins as hillary's baggage may have shifted during flight. >> hillary clinton's elite airlines, the summer tour, they're calling it, as she goes to new york, to california to get money, big dollar fund-raisers. you say to that criticism what? >> i say that's a cute spin, but i don't think it really matters in the larger scheme of things. hillary clinton has been dominated donald trump throughout the summer in every single aspect, whether it's air time, polling, especially in battle ground states, or whether or not you're at the point now where she's dominating him financially. when you talk about people who
are involved in a company, when you talk about people who are financially vested in a company, one thing you look at are super pacs. you combine all of the trump super pacs, you're at about $4 million in cash on hand. when you have these resources, you have the ability to bludgeon your opponent. >> were you there yesterday, were you a part of that meeting? >> i was. it was a terrific meeting. it was an open conversation. he wanted to hear from these leaders about the issues that are of great concern to the hispanic community. they were business, civic and faith-based leaders who were there. that was great discussion about jobs, economy, trade, what to do
with veterans and veteran care, amongst other issues. and of course there was a discussion about immigration. >> is it a little late to know introduce this meeting? >> no. to the contrary. many of those leaders had already met with mr. trump previously. it was the opportunity to come together collectively as a group. for most voters, they're barely beginning to focus on this campaign as they do for most national elections. kid are beginning to get back to school. labor day is coming. 80 days out is when you look at what you really need to do to fine tune your campaign and organize and move it and push forward. yesterday we had a great conversation with hispanic leaders on a number of issues of great concern. it's a great opportunity to be able to exchange ideas and strategies. >> the fourth consecutive day on saturday we saw donald trump
making an appeal to african-american voters. let's look at this from a different perspective. i want to get your thought on this. could this, the numbers we're seeing that donald trump is fighting against, be maybe the struggle that any republican coming after barack obama would have. the president has overall a 52% approval rating, 75 non-white, 85% in the black community. and any republican in this position who is threatening that legacy of barack obama chrks bla which black voters have such a close affiliation with, would be facing what donald trump is facing. >> regardless of what my colleague this morning said, when you have african-american unemployment rate which has actually gone down and you have uninsured that has gone down and when you have programs like my brother's keeper or just the example he sets for
african-american people in this count country. that being said, though, i do believe a republican could get the numbers mitt romney had, maybe get to the numbers that george w. bush had. but donald trump is none of those. you have to remember the central park five. you have to remember that donald trump was sued by the department of justice. donald trump is uncomfortable speaking to minority groups. he may be making these overtures right now but we know it's 80 days out. where has he been the last 432 days since he's been in the race? hispanic voters are not going to forget he patronized him with the taco bowl. >> i want to give you ten seconds. that's all i have for you. >> what donald trump doesn't do is pander to our communities. that's what hillary clinton and
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so good to have you with us. i'm christi paul. donald trump making a plea for those african-american votes again. fourth day in a row. and once again it was this full room of white people. in his speech in virginia last night, he referred to the gop as the party of lincoln and pushed republicans to do better in appealing to blacks. i want to read something from ed kilgore in new york magazine. he wrote trump's appeal to black voters was almost certainly aimed at white voters worried or angry about being labeled as racist. you are a republican. how do you see his words about
african-americans? >> i found it unbelievably condescending. i watched the display this week in various speeches that he gave and i shook my head. i said, you've got to be kidding me. i've been involved in republican politics for 20-plus years. it's been a frustrating endeavor. there are a lot of people who just don't get it. they think in an election year a couple months before the election you're going to swoop in with some radio ads or speak at one conference and think that's going to get the african-american community to listen to you. that's not how it works. you have to be present. you can't just expect to say a couple of buzz words, throw out some stats and go what the hell do you have to lose. it was really insulting, especially when donald trump
went down the list of, well, your schools are failing, you live in neighborhoods. assuming that all african-americans are monolithic and poor. 70% of african-americans are not poor. he didn't speak to middle class african-americans. he didn't speak to black-owned businesses. he didn't speak to black families. he didn't speak to any of those things. it was clear that he was just focused on the buzz words that someone gave him and statistics. no credibility there whatsoever. >> is there anything he could say that would resonate? and how would he be received if he did gather a group and sit down with them the way he sat down with the hispanic group yesterday? >> well, i mean i, he's done that with this national diversity coalition that he allegedly has, which to me have been more show pieces to show he's got some black folks.
as opposed to really going to places where people are making a difference in their communities. for example, he could have an opportunity to speak in front of the naacp. they couldn't even get a phone call back on the invitation. the nabj, largest group of black journalists in the country, the mmpa, the largest group of black publishers in the country. >> but is there anything he could say? >> i thought maybe a year ago he had an opportunity to say some things particularly around economics. there have been legitimately economic issues and failured of democrat policies f50 years in the black community. absolutely, that's a valid point. but donald trump has a history when it comes to racially bigoted and inappropriate comments, behavior from the d.o.j. suit back in the '70s
when his properties did not rent to people of color and his involvement with the central park five when he took out a full page ad in the paper calling for the death personality and those people were exonerated. of course let's not forget about the david duke and white separati supremacist flirting here. all of those things, whatever donald trump may say now, i think the hillary clinton campaign will come in and they'll list all of those things and the black community is going to be like, um, i don't think so. >> they have some sort of plan apparently. yesterday the executive director of the national coalition for trump, told people trump would earn 20% of the black vote in november. he's at 1% right now.
>> donald trump is polling at the lowest point with african-americans since 1948. he's out of his mind. that national diversity coalition council, they don't even have money funded by the trump campaign. they're completely on their own. there's no coordination there, no field directors, no field staff on the ground. so good luck with that. trump says he's a self-made billionaire. he'll fix the economy. but a "new york times" report says the billionaire's companies are hundreds of millions of dollars in debt beyond what was suggested in his financial disclosure. we'll take a look at that report and speak with the author after the break.
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donald trump keeps saying that he is very rich. he's a billionaire. he doesn't owe anyone anything. but a "new york times" report says that that's not quite true. in fact, it says that trump owes or his companies owe at least $650 million on his properties in the u.s. and among his lenders are the banks of china and goldman sachs as well, the two entities he keeps blasting on the campaign trail. we've got susanne craig on the phone. tell us first, trump said during his financial disclosure his businesses owed at least 315
mlt million but your reporting says it's much more. >> it is. it's not necessarily a fault of donald trump in terms of what was disclosed. he was asked to disclose things in ranges that max out at 50 million and above, a high number. these forms simply weren't built for or didn't anticipate a candidate like donald trump. so instead of getting the actual number, we get an at least 315, which could be a lot higher. and then secondly the trump organization in my discussions with them noted that the forms only required candidates to disclose personal liabilities. their position is donald trump doesn't have any personal liabilities. but we decided to go above and beyond the form and disclose any corporate spi entity debt wher-
the "new york times" hired a title search firm and found that number to be much higher. separately there's a lot of -- not surprisingly he's got a complicated business. there's a lot of over debt he's got a 50% interest in or at least one property in las vegas where he's got a loan. he's got private partnerships. he's not responsible for that debt, but the buildings themselves have debt which could affect his fortunes up or down depending on how the buildings do. >> because of the way this form is written that he had to file to run for office, the debt is then cat dpegorized in certain chunks. let's look specifically at the
40 wall street property. while the financial disclosure lists the debt there at 50 million or more, your reporting found it was how much? >> that loan specifically was 1$160 million. there's another loan he's working on. they're going to be hoopening a hotel at the site of the old post office business in washington. they've drawn down roughly 127 million on that loan. we're only seeing that as 50 million or above on the form. >> okay. thanks so much for being with us. again this is not something donald trump did nefariously, it's just the way the report was written. think about this, six years ago she's sitting in a cubicle, working as an accountant. now gwen jorgensen is an olympic gold medalist and with us live from rio, next. i'm just a guy who wants to buy that truck.
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when you realized, oh my gosh, i just won the gold. >> it was pretty incredible. you know, i set out four years ago to win gold in rio, and to actually execute on the day is something that's really hard to do. so for me it was just, i think, a relief and just a celebration of all the dedication, hard work, so many things that went into that day. it was a huge emotional relief. >> i understand that it was an emotional relief for you as well because you were thinking about the people who helped you get there. is that right? >> yeah. i mean, i have an amazing support crew. i have my husband. patrick lemieux who gave up his career to support me. he's with me nine months abroad doing the cooking, cleaning, everything. my coach jamie turner has invested in me the past four years. also a great network of sponsors, one is team visa who
has done amazing things and brought a lot of people together. it's amazing to have all the support. i couldn't do it without them. >> let me ask you something. a lot of people may be watching this and they have their careers and their life going, you know, day by day as it does. you're an accountant. how do you get from today i'm an accountant. i think i want to go to the olympics? how do you get there? talk to us about that transition. >> i grew up swimming and running. for me, i had a job at ernst and young as a cpa, usa triathlon had a college recruitment program where they found me, came to me, and said we think you would be good at triathlon. i laughed at them. thought they were nuts. i said i tried to be an olympic athlete when i was younger, didn't even come close. i thought they were crazy. i really have them to thank now looking back at it. >> i understand a flat tire
ruined your chances at the london games. how did that motivate you? >> you know, i crossed the finish line in london 38th after a flat tire. i was disappointed. i really have a lot to thank for that flat. because it was after that flat tire and disappointment that i made a lot of changes. i found my new coach, jamie turner. it's when i started living abroad for nine months of the year. it's when i became fully invested in triathlon and everything i did for the past four years was focused on that one day, august 20th, yesterday. >> as we look aide head -- i wao give you a breather to enjoy it, but everybody is wondering with tokyo in 2020. what are your thoughts in that regard? >> um, i have no idea, honestly. i am a huge planner, and i love making plans and lists and all those things. i had this four-year plan. i just have nothing planned for today forward. maybe a few interviews, but nothing besides that.
i just don't know what i'm going to do. going to spend some time enjoying this moment with my husband and my support crew and make some decisions after i have decomposed. >> gwen jorgensen, congratulations to you. you made a lot of people proud here. thank you so much for taking time to talk to us. enjoy that blank slate for a little while. >> thank you. i will. >> okay. thank you. how about that? going off and deciding, you know what? i'm going to go and be a triathlete. >> it's impressive. >> i'm not leaving you. i'm not going to run off. >> i'm still trying to get you in spinning class with me. >> okay. the seat. you know what i'm talking about. it's not happening. >> i know. listen, thank you so much for sharing your time with us on this sunday. "inside politics" is coming up next.
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