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it's about giving people a voice in their government again, which is exactly what the clinton foundation took away. >> that statement is true. >> we are out of time. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. we heard anderson cooper's exclusive interview with hillary clinton and we'll have more coming on this broadcast. breaking news, a major shift from donald trump tonight on immigration and deportation. trump in an interview tonight saying no citizenship, they'll pay back taxes, they have to pay back taxes. there's no amnesty as such, threw's no amnesty but we work with them. and in mississippi he makes this incendiary charge about hillary clinton. >> hillary clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as
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votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. she's going to do nothing for african-americans. she going to do nothing for the hispanics. she's only going to take care of herself, her husbands, her consultants, her donors. these are the people she cares about. she doesn't care. >> clinton firing back, accusing trump of bigotry as well. jim acosta, this is a major change in trump's stance on deportation tonight. here's what he said in an interview. "no citizenship, that i pay back taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty as such, but we work with them. now, everybody agrees we get the bad ones out but when i go through and i meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject and i've had very strong
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people come up to me be really, really great people come up to me and very, very mr. trump, i love you but to take a person who's been here for 15, 20 years and throw them and their family, it's so tough." . this is a reversal. this is not a softening. >> no, this is wilting. during the primaries he called for a mass deportation force that would round up 11 million illegal immigrants and remove them from this country. now he's saying the ones in this country, the undocumented who have been law abiding can stay in this country, as long as they pay back taxes. he is saying that's not amnesty but a lot of conservatives within the republican party will say that is amnesty. we stand in phoenix he's going to be delivering a speech on immigration where we expect him to give some more details on
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this. he didn't go much into the details in this speech here in jackson, mississippi tonight. he only said his upcoming shift on immigration will not hurt american jobs and that sort of thing. he didn't talk about the details that he did in this interview on fox news. but, don, as you mentioned, one other sort of omg moment here and donald trump has these every couples of weeks, you'll recall a couple of weeks ago when he said president obama was the founder of isis and later he said he was just being sarcastic about that. listen to what donald trump what to say about hillary clinton at this rally in jack where he essentially called her a bigot. here's what he had to say. >> hillary clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. she's going to do nothing for african-americans, she's going to do nothing for the hispanics.
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she doesn't care what her policies have done to your communities. >> and donald trump was reading from a teleprompter, that line "hillary clinton is a bigot" is in his prepared remarks. it's noting is he ad libbed. he's been veering off script and saying all sorts of things. this was not one of those moments. this was in the script and he delivered it as it was prepared. the other thing we should point out is this perfectly tees up donald trump for all sorts of criticism in the coming days. this is a candidate who said mexicans immigrating to this country were rapists. he said a mexican-american judge could not fairly handle the trump university case, that was considered by many to are a racist or bigoted comment.
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to come out and call hillary clinton a bigot is going to open him up to that. >> thank you, jim acosta, i appreciate it. i want to bring in mark preston, dana bash, patrick healy. okay. dana, we're listening to jim. he didn't essentially call her a bigot. he called her a bigot tonight. >> yes and it was in the teleprompter. it wasn't a classic, off-the-cuff remark that gives him into trouble. it was delivered and done on purpose. they're trying to be provocat e provocative, not something unusual for donald trump, but doing so as he is trying to make inroads himself with the african-american community by -- and with hispanics, with minorities in general by raising
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questions about what hillary clinton and democrats in general have really done for those communities as opposed to the lip service that they've paid. you can argue the merits of that, and we will for the next two months, but that kind of term certainly is getting him the press that he wanted. >> i want you all to listen to hillary clinton. this is her with anderson cooper talking about his responding to donald trump's bigot comment. >> it reminds me of that great saying that maya angelou had that when someone shows you who they are believe them the first time. and donald trump has shown us who he is and we ought to believe him. he is taking a hate movement mainstream. he's brought it into his campaign. he's bringing it to our communities and our country and, you know, someone who has questioned the citizenship of the first african-american president, who has courted white
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supremacists, who has been sued for housing discrimination against communities of color, who attacked a judge for his mexican heritage and promised a mass deportation force is someone who is very much peddling bigotry and prejudice and paranoia. >> patrick, considering what she just said and bringing up the litany of things she considers to be bigoted, is it wise for donald trump to go down this i know you are but what am i road? >> this is dangerous. it's coming at a time when donald trump is drastically softening his language on immigration, trying to make this strange overture by black and hispanic voters by saying what do you have to lose by voting for me and now he's going back to injecting this racially charged language. she has been and her allies have
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suggested he has been bigoted for a while now. that stuff sticks in his craw, sort of always does and now he's hitting back. he's going to mississippi to sort of punch her on this but it's one of those things that tends to overshadow everything else that he says, as he's trying to make these prepared remark speeches, he's using teleprompters -- that w >> that was in the teleprompter. >> it was. he's been trying to button up the last two weeks and then he makes a remark like this that's clearly calculated but it overshadows everything. >> what's behind a comment like this, mark preston? is it a working strategy? >> i look to see what is the strategy behind it. the beginning of the week he
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gave a lot of praise to the trump campaign for cancelling that speech on immigration, allowed the media to attack hillary clinton. what we've seen tonight, though, is after a few days he has taken the spotlight and stolen it back and pulled it towards him. to use really racially charged attacks like that by calling hillary clinton is bigot is an overreach, a big overreach on his part. in many ways, it desensitizing everything else he's trying to say or calls into question what he's trying to say. if you don't believe that, it overshadows the attacks he's making on hillary clinton as somebody who is not fit to be commander in chief. >> that's a turn around. i guess the strategy was for him to be safer and not to say sort of outlandish things but this is a complete turn around, talking
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about the deportation thing, dana. i read it for jim accosta earlier. he says, "no citizenship. let me go a step further. they'll pay back taxes, there's no amnesty as such but we're going to work with them and he said people coming up to him saying they've been here for 15, 20 years, you can't just send people out. what's your reaction to this? >> had we not had the hints on saturday and sunday that he was moving in a direction like this, i would be more shocked. but even though we knew something like this was coming, to see those words that came from donald trump is still really kind of unbelievable. i'm just kind of give you context of what it's like to be a former republican opponent of donald trump, people who were pushing this and were told by trump and trump supporters that that is amnesty period, end of story. >> isn't this already on the
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books? is this the policy that's already in place or pretty close to it? >> well, it's what people who were pushing for comprehensive immigration reform, some of them, some of them wanted to go to full on citizenship -- >> republicans like paul ryan have suggested -- >> absolutely. let me give you a quote which i thought summed it up. an ally of ted cruz said to me this would be like ted cruz suddenly saying i'm for obama care. that's the way that they look at this, what a shift it is because it's such a core issue for donald trump. >> it kind of reminds me of 2012 and mitt romney saying i don't like obama care and president obama saying obama care is essentially romney care. >> in massachusetts. >> it has your name on it. >> yeah, this is thinking about romney, too, an ultimate etch a sketch for donald trump. donald trump won the republican nomination by going to rallies
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and saying those 11 million illegals are gone, they're gone. >> let's put it up and we'll talk about it. >> we're going to keep the families together. we have to keep the families together. >> but you're going to keep them together out? >> they have to go. we're going to have a deportation force, you're going to do it humanely. >> you're rounding them all up. >> in a very humane way and nice way and they're going to be happy because they want to be legalized. >> i'm sure these are very, very fine people. they're going to go and we're going to create a path where we can get them into this country legally. >> so to your point, patrick. >> i mean, it's as close to a flip flop as i think we've seen -- >> as close to a flip flop? it is a flip flop. come on. >> i'm a "new york times" guy. you have a guy saying we're going to deport all 11 million. no to you dana's point, he was setting up a softening the other day. the weird things about this, don, this clip is going to get a
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lot of play that's coming out on fox is that he was sort of crowd sourcing the audience as he was talking about all of this. hi to read the transcript three times to get what he was saying. he does this at his rallies sometimes. he says what do you think about deporting they will all? what do you think about keeping some of them if they pay back taxes and they don't have criminal records? he's tossing out these lines. what's clear is he's considering making changes, that he's going to make a decision soon, we have to make a decision soon. >> this is what hillary clinton told anderson about this change tonight. >> my understanding is the comment you just referred to is the third different position he took yesterday on immigration. somebody has told him, i guess the latest people that he's consulting, how damaging his statements have been, how terrible his deportation plan is, how offensive his views on
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immigrants have been since the very first day of his campaign. so he's trying to do kind of a shuffle here. but i think we need to look at the entire context. we need to believe him when he bullies and threatens to throw out every immigrant in the country and certainly when he changes his position three times in one day, it sends a message that it's just a desperate effort to try to land somewhere that isn't as, you know, devastating to his campaign as his comments and his positions have been up until now. >> mark preston, isn't the danger here that he is turning away the core supporters on that hard line -- >> i think we've become
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desensitized to donald trump saying one thing or monday, changing it on tuesday and something different on wednesday. there are a lot of centrist moderates who are saying this is the donald trump that i want to lead the republican party if in fact he wins in november. this is the donald trump we were all hoping for after he won the primary that would moderate his positions that we can then get behind. this is the donald trump that's okay at the top of the ticket. so even though we're very critical of the fact that he is changing his positions, it's a change that is actually going to be embraced by more republicans than repulsed by more republicans. those who have joined the donald trump campaign, those who are backing him, they have nowhere else to go. they're going to stay with donald trump because they still believe he's going to make america great again. donald trump has become something he has said over and over and over again that he will never become and that's a politician. >> i have to get to the break.
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we're back with our breaking news. donald trump suggesting a major shift in his immigration plan, exception to allow some immigrants stay in the country. dana bash, you were part of a phone call, right, with donald trump and where he says, and this is a quote from you, he
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says "i have been staying on message more now because ultimately i'm finding i do better with voters, do better in the polls when i'm on message. that was in a telephone interview on tuesday with you. >> right, right. he basically sort of fully acknowledged that he was losing, falling in the polls when he was doing these sort of two-week period that he now said he regrets of attacking and launching and throwing mud every which way and that since kellyanne conway and steve bannon have come on board, you are know, he finds basically they're not telling him, okay, you've got to do this and we're imposing this message on you look that, but he feels like they've sort of created this message together where he has these prepared remarks at a rally, he's always using his teleprompter and staying on message. donald trump like nothing better than to be able to say i'm going up in the polls. it's like he's been in a depressive state -- >> he only listens to the polls.
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the polls have told him you're losing, you need to change. >> so who better to run his campaign than a pollster. >> and a woman. when he said that to you, did you almost drop the phone? for donald trump to say you know what, i should just stay on message because it actually works. that's the reason why politicians stay on message. however, he has done so well, at least did up until he got the nomination being his own guy. that was what made him donald trump. >> it's tough. it's hard to change. mark preston, we've been talking about it on the show, critics have been saying he needed to change and stay on message. he said his critics were anti-trump, surrogates said he was anti-trump but when the polls fell, he said maybe i need to listen to the polls. >> donald trump has again become this politician that republicans potentially, those who have been
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sitting on the sidelines, could get behind. >> mark, can i put the polls up to give our viewers some context as you're talking about it. this is our new battleground poll out of arizona. latinos 18%, made up 18% of the electorate in 2012. shows clinton with 57% of the hispanic vote compared to 20% for trump. trump holds a 5-point lead over clinton in arizona. he has kellyanne conway, who better to lead your campaign than a pollster. so she must be reading something into these polls. >> let's take a step back. we look at those polls there, don that, have just come out in the last 12 hours or so showing what's happening in the battleground states. when trump talks about reaching out to the minority community, let me give you numbers about the idea that he could get african-americans to support him. barack obama won 93% of the black vote in 2012, 95% of the
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black vote in 2008 when he was first elected. the hispanic vote, democrats have easily won the hispanic vote if you go as far back as 1980, the closest republicans ever came was george w. bush in 2004, he came in within 18 points of john kerry that year. and if you go back to 2012 when barack obama ran against mitt romney, mitt romney lost the hispanic vote by 44%. when donald trump is talking about reaching out to minority communities, it's a smart thing to do but it about reaching out to disaffected voters who haven't made up their mind yet. >> dan rather and others have said he's reaching out for
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people they feel may be a bigot. >> and in the focus group, people were saying he's a little racist, we don't like this. >> you have the clinton foundation but the e-mail problem. she spoke to anderson cooper about that and gave one of the most concise answers some say to date on this subject. here it is. >> i've been asked many, many questions in the past year about e-mails. what i've learned is when i tried to explain what happened, it sounds like i'm trying to excuse what i did. there are no excuses. i want people to know the decision to have single e-mail account was mine. i apologize for it, i would certainly do different if i could. but youfobviously i'm grateful the justice department has determined there's no reason to
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continue this further. >> so it interesting because i remember having the conversation with maria cardona and i said after the black journalist thing and i said the answer to that question is so easy, right? and that was the answer she gave. >> maybe she was watching you, don. >> no matter how i tried to answer this question -- >> i've answered it 77,000 times and every time i got myself into more trouble. maybe that's the way to answer it. you could almost hear the tug of war inside of hillary clinton as she's answering that question because by nature she obviously is somebody who wants to explain and to deep dive and to give kind of all of the, you know, her lawyerly background all of the reasons why x, y and see are not true. it doesn't work with something like this. people want to know are you sorry? are you not going to do it again? yes.
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americans are forgiving. that's what they want. they want to move on. >> just like her -- the summer of 2015, she was gritting her teeth, she would not say the e-mails were a mistake, she would not apologize. reporters would ask her, will you apologize now? it's been a year of excuses, excuses, excuses. there are no excuses. you see hillary clinton and donald trump getting on the postlabor day general election message, trying to clean up the things they feel they need to with undecided voters. at least the e-mail story is not going away. if trump comes out, you know -- >> just quickly, the one thing that i thought might be something you're going to hear more from the clinton people that she said tonight on the foundation issues, which have been really bogging her down is, okay, you know, maybe there are questions but we don't know anything about donald trump's -- never mind his taxes but his
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business. it's all private. >> oh, well. it's easy to say i'm sorry but i'm sorry i have to go to the next segment. mark, thank you very. up next, a top trump supporter goes head to head with the clinton deportation plan. we'll be right back. be the you who doesn't cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. be the you who shows up in that dress. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara®
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a major shift from donald trump tonight promising to, quote, work with undocumented immigrants. here to discuss, jennifer granholm, former governor of michigan and jan brewer, the republican governor of arizona, who is supporting donald trump. good evening to both of you. >> good evening. >> i want to get your reaction to this -- >> thanks for having me on, don. >> thanks for coming. governor brewer, how is this not am amnesty? >> i don't know exactly how it was presented or exactly what donald said today -- >> i know there's a delay. he said "no citizenship, will the me go a step further,
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they'll pay back taxes, there's no amnesty as such there's no amnesty but we work with them. everybody agrees we get the bad guys out but when you go through and meet thousands and thousands of people on the subject and i've had very strong people come up to me, really great, great people come up to me and they've said, mr. trump, i love you but to take a person who has been here for 15 to 20 years and throw them and their family out, it is so tough, mr. trump. and i have it all the time, it is a very, very hard thing. he's talking about working with people who have been here and a path to citizenship. how is this not amnesty? >> he's been very successful in business and he's a problem solver. and it does tug at your heart the issues that we're facing in regards to immigration and people have spoken with him. i think we all should take a deep breath and wait for his policy speech to be made on this and move forward at that given
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time. but we've all said all along that we need our border secured. i've said that for, what, seven years for sure. secure our border, then we can deal with all these other issues. >> governor granholm, how is this not amnesty? >> first of all, you have to believe that what he's saying tonight is what he's truly going to act upon as opposed to what he's been saying for the past year, which is we're going to have a deportation force and people have to go. if he's not saying that, if he's saying we have a totally different change in plan and all of you people who have supported me throughout my entire campaign, well, not so much. you heard tonight he was at the rally sort of asking the crowd what he should do. who is this man? if he has a question about a policy, he's going to go to a rally and say should we bomb so and so? should i press the nuclear button? i mean, the man is totally unstable. i think that's really clear. and i agree that we should wait
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to hear what his formal policy is but, honestly, i don't think anyone should buy it. what he's been telling us and his supporters for the past year, that's what he intend to do. >> to her point, she has been saying for the past year there's going to be a deportation force. i'm wondering how supporters in your state are going to react to that because they were thinking i'm sure that they were going to deport undocumented immigrants. >> well, the people in arizona and the people of america are going to obviously wait to see exactly what his plan is. bottom line is is that calling him unstable, it's donald trump that won overwhelmingly the nomination because he speaks from his heart and he speaks what he thinks, what he's thinking at the given time. and to call him unstable, that's like hillary clinton, you know, she's a serial tale teller.
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we can go back and forth. tonight, governor, we're trying to solve and resolve a problem that's been facing america for the last 20 years and the last eight years have been horrendous. we need a solution and we need someone like donald trump to listen, which he has, he has spoken from his heart, he knows the difficulty of it but let's wait and just see exactly what it is. >> that's exactly what governor granholm just said. governor granholm just said we need to -- >> secure the border. the criminals, the cartel, the rapists that the cartels come across with and the terrorists that come across with the cartel, those are the things that absolutely -- >> in the interest of time, governor, i don't mean to cut you off but we have a short time and i want to spend it wisely. to governor granholm's points
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this is what the bush spokesperson said "it is unsurprising that donald trump is finally faced with reconciling his immigration policy with reality, something governor bush predicted last year." governor granholm, many people were saying having a deportation force and building a wall weren't viable options because you physically cannot build a wall across the entire southern border and you cannot have a deportation force legally. they predicted this all along. >> it's totally ridiculous, those particular policies. the reason why donald trump wants to figure out how to get out of the pickle he's in, which is having created such massive opposition to himself on the part of both those who might otherwise be inclined to vote republican but are uncomfortable with the racial overtones of his campaign and the hispanic vote, you have a poll tonight where hillary clinton is ahead of
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donald trump by 27 points among hispanics. it is going to be very difficult for him to try to pull the wool over people's eyes who have been insulted, judge curiel, who have been called rapists and vilified for the past year. now to soften language and expect people are going to flow back is a very hard sell. >> governor brewer, does donald trump risk the perception he's becoming everything he's attacked, he's seen as flip-flopping on certain key issues that he initiated from the beginning? >> no, i don't believe so. i believe, again, that he is a problem solver. he's going to solve it. certainly he understands i nt's not only incumbent upon him to
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work with the united states congress to resolve these problems. i would think that the hispanic population certainly have not been -- their problems have not been resolved in the last eight years of obama and if we have hillary clinton, the serial tale teller, again, it won't get resolved. we need solutions and donald trump is the man that can do it and he has promised that that's what he would do and i take him at his word. >> all right, governors, thank you very much. i appreciate you joining me here on cnn. when we come right back, hill him talks exclusively to cnn to the attacks of the clinton foundation saying there's a lot of smoke about no fire. or not in vests. this is my retirement. retiring retired tires. and i never get tired of it. are you entirely prepared to retire? plan your never tiring retiring retired tires retirement
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. a little bit earlier anderson cooper did an exclusive interview with hillary clinton, her first in a month. >> he also said today, quote, that you sold favors and access in, change for cash from people who donated to the clinton foundation. i know you point to the life saving work for the foundation that the foundation has done over the years, getting low-cost hiv drugs and other things and
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you deny the charges that mr. trump is making there, but at the very least there is an appearance of conflict of interest with the foundation. you've agreed to make changes if elected. why not have your husband step away from the foundation now? >> well, first, what trump has said is ridiculous. my work as secretary of state was not influenced by any outside sources. i made policy decisions based on what i thought was right to keep americans safe and protect u.s. interests abroad, no wild political attack by donald trump is going to change that. and, in fact, the state department has said itself that there is no evidence of any kind of inpropriempropriety at all. i think it important to recognize that the foundfoundat
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which does do life-saving work and is so well respected here in our country and around the world has been doing this work for a number of years, and in 2009 they took steps that went above and beyond all legal requirements and indeed all standard requirements followed by every other charitable organization, voluntarily disclosing donors, significantly reducing sources of funding, even to the point of, you know, of those funding being involved in providing medication to treat hiv/aids, and i think that the announcements that the foundation has made really reflect its desire to continue as much of its important work as possible but to do it in a way that provides great disclosure and although none of this is
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legally required, the steps go further than the policies that were in place when i was secretary of state. and it's important to remember, anderson, the foundation is a charity. neither my husband nor i have ever drawn a salary from it. you know more about the foundation than you know about anything concerning donald trump's wealth, his business, his tax returns. i think it's quite remarkable. >> why was it okay for the clinton foundation to accept foreign donations when you were secretary of state but it wouldn't be okay if you were president? >> well, what we did when i was secretary of state, as i said, went above and beyond anything that was required, anything that any charitable organization has to do. now, obviously if i am president, there will be some unique circumstances and that's why the foundation has laid out additional, unprecedented -- >> didn't those unique
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circumstances exist -- >> no, no. you know, look, anderson, i know there's a lot of smoke and there's no fire. this a.p. report, put it in context. it excludes nearly 2,000 meetings i had with world leaders, plus countless other meetings with u.s. government officials when i was secretary of state. it looked at a small portion of my time and it drew the conclusion and made the suggestion that my meetings with people like the late great ellie weisel were somehow due to connections with the foundation instead of their status as highly respected global leaders. that is absurd. these are people who i was proud to meet with, who any secretary of state would have been proud to meet with to hear about their work and their insight. >> you heard hillary clinton's defense of her family foundation. when we come back, i want to
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anderson cooper tonight. she also talked about donald trump and the e-mail controversy. mr. kristoff, thank you for joining us. >> good evening. >> how do you think she did? >> there were real problems in terms of disclosure. i don't think they flil adhered to their memorandum of understanding. but on the issues that she's addressing, the notion that people were paying to play and the a.p. article illustrated that, i think she's dead right. the first example was mohamed eunice, who is one of the world's true heros. he's a long-time friend of mine, a nobel peace prize winner, he's worked to give global credit all over the world. and the prime minister of bangladesh was trying to destroy
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him. it was absolute appropriate for secretary clinton to try to help him in every way he could. this wasn't because he was bribing the foundation in some form. another example that came up was the crown prince of bahrain. bahrain is an ally of ours that has been engaging in ruthless repression. the belief is that the crown prince is one of the reformers in that country and i think she was probably trying to support the reformers in that camp. it didn't work but, again, i don't think that had anything to do with paying to play. >> we'll talk more about the clinton foundation. what about her answer on e-mails? >> this is the answer she should have given months ago. she's been digging herself deeper and deeper. >> let's listen. >> i've been asked many, many questions in the past year about e-mails and what i've learned is that when i try to explain what
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happened, it sounds like i'm trying to excuse what i did. and there are no excuses. i want people to know that the decision to have a single e-mail account was mine. i take responsibility for it, i've apologized for it. i would certainly do differently if i could. but obviously i'm grateful the justice department concluded there was no basis to pursue this matter further and i believe the public will be and is considering my full record and experience as they consider their choice for president. >> david axelrod said that was the best answer she gave so far on that. do you agree with him? >> this is a self-inflicted error, not only that she presumably set up the separate account because she wanted to avoid foia requests and then she had all these absurd explanations which were
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unpersuasioniunpe unpersuasives and she mischaracterized colin powell's statement and finally we have her saying what she should have been saying months and months ago. >> donald trump has been sharpening himself attacks, particularly regarding the clinton foundation. let listen. >> she wants to sell out american security to the clinton foundation for a big, fat pile of cash. it's hard to tell where the clinton foundation end and where the state department begins. >> fair criticism of the foundation? >> i think it's true that there were blurred lines between the foundation and secretary clinton and her office in the state department but there's no evidence that people were paying the foundation for benefits from the state department. there's no sign of any quid pro
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quo. so were there apparent conflicts? absolutely. did she manage them poorly? i think so. but no evidence of quid pro quos. at the end of the day, this is a foundation that's had a huge impact on aid world wide. charity watch gives the clinton foundation an a great, the best rating, yet the optics on this new report doesn't look good but it seems self-inflicted. you know more about the clinton foundation and what -- that i don't take a salary from it than you know anything about donald trump's finances or taxes. >> it's frustrating for those of us who look at global health issues, the foundation has done fantastic work on provides aids, micronutrients, the least sexy way to save children's lives around the world and yet because that work has been obscured because they did not adhere to this memoranda of understanding
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that they had with the obama administration. they appeared it tried to hide some incoming monies being funneled through the canadian office, for example. >> if she becomes president, should they close it down and move it off to another ngo probably? >> i think they probably should. i admire a lot of what the foundation has done but at this point, it obviously huge distraction. >> thank you, nicholas kristof. >> donald trump calls hillary clinton a bigot. she fires back saying he's peddling prejudice, bigotry and paranoia. we have more when we come right back. your foot off the brake, the brake stays engaged and you stay put. taking the legwork out of stop and go traffic. and even hills. that's the more human side of engineering. this is the lincoln summer invitation, hurry in now to your dealer for limited time offers.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news, a major shift from donald trump on immigration. meanwhile, hillary clinton blasts him in an exclusive interview with cnn. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. trump in an interview saying there would be no amnesty but promising to, quote, work with undocumented immigrants. and in a blistering speech in mississippi, he calls hillary clinton a bigot. she fires back accusing trump of peddling bigotry, prejudice and paranoia with our own anderson cooper. i want to bring in mark preston ands

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