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tonight. don't forget, you can watch out front any time on cnn go and on anderson cooper speaks to donald trump in an interview on "ac 360" starts right now. good evening tonight, a 360 exclusive and a big campaign headline. donald trump just 24 hours after signaling on national television that he is softening, has word on deporting millions of undocumented immigrants now saying this. >> i don't think it's a softening. i think it's -- >> 11 million people are no longer being deported. >> i've heard people say it's a hardening, actually. >> that's not all he said in our conversation. and the path to legal status for undocumented immigrants just 24 hours after setting off a storm within his base. immigration is far from what we talked about this afternoon at a campaign stop at new hampshire. he also doubled down on his speech last night calling hillary clinton a bigot. for her part secretary clinton was on the stump laying out a
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verbal indictment of donald trump and that happened in reno, nevada. our jeff zeleny is there. it was a blistering attack by hillary clinton on donald trump. >> reporter: anderson, we've heard so many speeches at this point in the campaign about donald trump from hillary clinton, but this one was different in tone and substance. there was no mocking of his ability to serve in the oval office. there was no sort of playing about his business record. this was about race. what he believes. she said that he is divisive. she says he's radical and he's unprecedented in american politics. >> it's like nothing we've heard before from a nominee for president of the united states, from the start donald trump has built his campaign on prejudice and pairanoiaparanoia. he is taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over the republican party.
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his disregard for the values that make our country great is profoundly dangerous. >> reporter: and interesting, the audience at this speech, she was trying to reach some republicans, anderson. she was talking about bob dole, george w. bush, john mccain, and gave specific examples from each of them how they, you know, tried not to hate. how they reached out and tried to put racism aside. she said donald trump is something altogether different. so it was more than extending a hand to republicans. she was urging them to study what donald trump was saying and to come over to her campaign. of course, it's an open question if she is a credible messenger to many republicans in this country. >> of course, i asked donald trump about that and you will hear from him shortly. jeff, she was clearly looking to link trump to the so-called alt-right conservative group. did she offer any specifics? >> reporter: anderson, she offered several generalizations, mainly through the breitbart website.
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steve bannon now, the chief of breitbart is now the ceo of the trump campaign. she used a lot of breitbart headlines and she even read some of them, some incendiary headlines and racist headlines and anti-immigrant and anti-muslim headlines and she mentioned david duke and white supremacy. it is difficult to tie donald trump directly to any of these. she talks about how she's been talking about these things on the campaign trail, but she's talking about how his language was dangerous and tying him directly to any of these specific things is difficult, and of course, he would push back on that. >> and he did today. jeff zeleny, thanks very much. before leaving for new hampshire donald trump held a roundtable with african-americans and latinos in the community. phil has more on the matter itself. what about this meeting? continuing to try to renew focus minority voters. what's the latest about it? >> yes. it's one of a number of meetings we've seen over the last couple of weeks from donald trump on
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this issue specifically. i spoke to a couple of people who attended the meeting and the reviews were all very positive and said donald trump was very attentive and wanted to talk about their issues. they're republicans and most are supporting donald trump, but what you're seeing right now is a very contained strategy by the campaign, and it's twofold, really, anderson. it's not just trying to reach out to minority voters and trying to reach out to black or hispanic voters where donald trump's numbers are abysmal and perhaps a most important one. donald trump is trying to soften his image and one poll in july said 65% of people polled associated the word racist at least slightly with donald trump and the bigger issue in that softening and donald trump has a major problem with women voters and specifically white women voters and hillary clinton leading in the most recent polling on white women and it's a group mitt romney won in 2012 when he talked to republican consultants and republican officials who are paying a attention to this and that's what he's trying to do with meetings like he did today.
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>> on the issue of immigration, his campaign has postponed a long-awaited speech that's supposed to take this week. any more news on that? we heard that it might be next week and campaign advisers have started back, as well. you know well from your interview today. what we're seeing on the immigration issue specifically is there is a lot of wrestling internally about what donald trump's final policy is going to be. look, there's going to be a wall and there's going to be key principles that donald trump has stuck to throughout of the course of this campaign. they say donald trump is wrestling with the complexity of this issue specifically on the issue of deportation as you noted, one that has gone back and forth and his advisers have gone back and forth over repeatedly over the last couple of days and so far no answers on the specifics of that and no answers on when that long-touted immigration speech is going to be. at least not yet. >> you will hear about that? just a second from donald trump himself. immigration hardliners were erupting over what he said at
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the taping of a fox news town hall that aired last night. it was essentially a 180 from what he's been saying on the campaign trail practically from day one. >> we have a law, right? you're supposed to come in legally. i would get people out, and i would have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. they're illegal immigrants. they've got to go out. >> how do you do it in a practical way? you really think you can round up 11 million people. >> at some point we will get them back, the good ones. >> you will have a deportation force and we will do it humanely. >> will you be sending in officers a force of people into people's homes to get them out? >> we're going to be giving notice and we'll be saying you have to go. we have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. they will go out. they will come back, some will come back. the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> so that was donald trump's position before the hannity town hall and throughout much of the primary.
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here's the 180 he said on hannity. >> and there certainly can be a softening because we're not looking to hurt people. we want people -- we have some great people in this country, and we have some great, great people in this country, so, but we're going to follow the laws of this country. >> you know, we -- people don't realize -- what people don't realize is we have very, very strong laws. >> and that, as we said, made a lot of hardliners furious and it set off plenty of snarky comments from jeb bush saying that trump's new policy looked a lot like his and that's where things stood when i met with donald trump at a campaign stop in new hampshire. here's part one of our exclusive conversation. >> one of the big thingious talked about during the primaries. we had interviews about this and you talked about the debates and 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country. they have to go. the good ones can come back in and they can put a door in the wall and the good ones can come back in, and do it humanely you said and there will be a deportation force and that's no long
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longer, and it seems there's been contradictory payments. >> i don't even know. >> let me just tell you what my policy is and i'm not going to go into all of it because we're doing a speech on immigration that will explain it in even greater detail, but we're going to build a great wall. the wall will be paid for by mexico. people are not going to be able to tunnel because we will have tunnel technology and we'll have all sorts of things and there will be a real wall. drugs will stop flowing into our nation and poisoning our youth and everybody else. we'll have all sorts of e verify and everything you can think of in terms of immigration. people will not come into our count rery illegally. we're going to fix that. we'll make it like it's never been before. i don't know if you know, the border patrol agent, 16,500 border patrol agents endorsed donald trump and they've never done that for a president before. you don't want to stand there and watch people pour through our borders. >> 11 million people -- >> let me explain.
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we're going to build a wall. a real wall that absolutely works and they do absolutely work if it's done properly. right now it's a joke. you have walls that are this high. that's number one. we are going stop illegal immigration pouring into our country. my first day in office, i am going to notify law enforcement authorities that all of the bad dudes, and we have a lot of them, that are here illegally, that are the heads of gangs and drug cartels and all sorts of people -- >> people -- >> probably millions of them, but certainly hundreds of thousands. big numbers. they're out. they're out. excuse me, the police know who they are. i've spoken to many police. the police know who they are. they deal with them all of the time. they're nothing, but problems. we are going to end sanctuary cities. we are going to run a country like it's supposed to be run. we will have boards, very strong borders and after that, we're
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going to see what happens, but we are going to find people and we're getting immediately, and i mean first hour of my -- the first document i will sign will say get the bad ones out of this country, bring them back. >> i have to follow up. you said on hannity you used the word softening and last night on hannity. >> i don't think it's a softening. >> 11 million people are no longer being deported. >> i would say it's a hardening, actually. >> 11 million who have not committed a crime, it's a path to legalization. >> you know it's a process. you can'ten take 11 at one time and say boom, you're gone. we have to find where these people are. nobody even knows if it's 11. it could be 30 or and it could be five. >> if someone hasn't committed a crime, will they be deported. >> >> we know the bad ones and the drug cartel people. we know the gangs and the heads of the gangs and the gang members. those people are gone.
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and that's a huge number. >> that's jeb bush's policy. >> i don't know anything about jeb bush. he wasn't building a wall. jeb bush wasn't making strong boards and i'm not knocking jeb bush, but i was with him for a long time. >> but he was mocked for saying that, look, you can't deport 11 million people and it now seems like, i know you're not really focusing -- >> first, i want to see what's going to happen. we are going to deport many people, many, many people. >> the vast majority are not criminals. >> we will find out who they are. we have crime all over this country. >> if they haven't committed a crime, will there be a path to legalization? >> no. there is no pass -- there is no path to legalization. >> unless people leave the country -- well, when they come back in, if they come back in, then they can start paying taxes. >> so they still have to leave the country? >> there is no path to legalization, unless they leave the country and come back. >> so that means of the 11 million who are here even if they haven't committed a crime. >> you keep saying 11 million. you don't know what the number
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is. >> however many, that's the estimate. >> and using the existing laws of our country, and using the existing laws, millions of people are deported every year. >> right. >> you know that, right? >> people don't talk about that. it's obama. they don't talk about that. >> a lot of people being deported. we're going to do that vigorously, we're going to go with the laws that are existing, but we're going to have a very strong border and we're not going to have people pouring back in and when they're thrown out they're not coming back into the country. >> so if you haven't committed a crime and you've been here for 15 years and you have a family here and you have a job here, will you be deported? >> we'll see what happens once we strengthen the border. we'll have a strong border as strong as anywhere there is anywhere in the world. we will have a real wall and tremendous protection and both technological protection and everything else and then we're going to see what happens, but there is a very good chance the answer could be yes, we'll see what happens and before we do anything, i want to get rid of the bad ones and there are a lot
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of them and i want to get rid of all of the bad ones and that will be the single first order i sign. we are going to stop. right now we're in new hampshire and you saw the crowd and the enthusiasm. i won the primary of new hampshire and the people of new hampshire asked me one favor, please, mr. trump, stop the drugs from coming across the southern border. you have heroin that's pouring across the southern border and destroying the youth and other people in new hampshire and every other state. we will stop all drug trafficking. it's not going to happen anymore. we will stop it. we will have a strong border and we'll have a tremendous wall. a wall that mexico pays for which is very easy, and the wall is peanuts compared to the money that they make. we are going to have a border again. we are not going to allow drugs to come into this country and poison our youth and then we're going to see what happens, but there's no legalization. there's no amnesty and if someone wants to go the legalization route, what they'll do is go, leave the country and
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hopefully come back in and then we can talk and one other thing, there are millions of people right now online trying to come into our country. it's very unfair to them, some of the rules, regulations and policies that i've seen. these are millions of people that want to come into our country legally and it would be very unfair to them. >> we'll have much more of our conversation with donald trump. ahead i asked him if he really thinks that hillary clinton is personally, as he said last night a bigot. reaction from the panel on this immigration issue when we come back. adjustable base, added my favorite part is to be able to lift your legs up a little bit and it feels like i'm just cradled. change your sleep, change your life... change to tempur-pedic. now thru september 11th, upgrade and save on select tempur-pedic mattresses and adjustable bases. ...r83% try to eat healthy. tempur-pedic mattresses yet up 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day women's gummies. complete with key nutrients we may need... it supports bone health
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welcome back. the first two headlines from our 360 exclusive conversation with donald trump from what he said today to me, no path to legal status for people in the country illegally and the hardening, not a softening, both his words, by the way, on deportation. >> you said on hannity you used the word softening and even last night on hannity -- >> i don't think it's a softening. >> but 11 million people are no longer being deported. >> i've heard it was a hardening. >> no, we're then -- >> will there be a path to legalization, is that right? >> you know it's a process. you can't take 11 million at one time and say boom, you're gone. no legalization and no amnesty and if someone wants to go the legalization route, what they'll do is leave the country and hopefully come back in and then we can talk. >> let's bring in the panel. clinton supporter and new york
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state clinton party basil smikle and paul begala, cnn political analyst and new york times presidential correspondent maggie haberman and trump supporter, scotty hues and tara setmier and andre meyer, the former lieutenant governor of south carolina. maggie, let's start with you. is it clear to you that donald trump knows what he wants his immigration policy regarding the 11 million or however many undocumented people are in this country now? >> no. it is clear to me he said two very different things and one to you, one to sean hannity. >> sean hannity, he talked about being in favor or talked about a softening, his words of the immigration laws and talked about working to keep some people here and talked about paying back taxes and that's not all just similar to language that comprehensive immigration reform supporters in the republican party support and it's similar to some arguments that president obama has made and what he would like.
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i haven't heard anyone call it a hardening other than he said it there. i think he likes the way the rhetoric sounds. what i didn't hear him repeat was the deportation force. he seems to have moved off of that and realized you can't round people up and send them home and it's a touchback program where someone goes back to their country. i don't think he realizes it's a year's long process and it is not quick and it would require a change in the laws and. i don't think this has clarified anything and mostly what i heard today from the left and the right was confusion and this did not. >> it's understandable, let's just play again some of what he said on hannity about the softening. >> and there certainly can be a softening because we're not looking to hurt people. we have people -- we have some great people in this country. we have some great, great people in this country, so, but we're going to follow the laws of this country what people don't realize, we have very, very
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strong laws. last night on hannity, he ended up polling the audience on what they thought the policies should do and a lot of people came up to him and said you can't be so tough. you can't be so tough. they've been here 15 years. paul, is this -- what do you make of what you're hearing? >> it's incoherent. this is 75 days before the presidential election.facts are. this is an important issue and we've been debating it for years in america. i watched your speech, and i didn't see the interview. don't let him in the debate. as a hillary guy. she's going to destroy him, but i'm not going to lie. he's unprepared. he doesn't know the first thing about his most important issue. this isn't some, like, abstract, okay, what are you going to do? these are hard problems and foreign policy and he clearly doesn't know, okay. he doesn't know what he's talking about. he said to you, well, we don't know how many are here and we don't know who they are and in the same breath, but we know
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exactly who the bad guys are and we'll go and get them. he said no legal status. no legal status, if you have no legal status you have to leave. you can be deported. it was completely incoherent. i think i should shut up and just play the tape. >> scotty, as a trump supporter, do you feel you know his immigration policy and i'm not talking about the wall or going after criminals and people that committed a felony, about people that have been law-abiding and who have had jobs and been here for 10, 15 years. do you know what he dolled as president? >> unlike the liberals and i feel sorry that you are confused. i feel bad for that clarification. >> you're not confused? >> so what happens to those 11 million. >> we have a problem here in the united states and donald trump is the only one that's offering solutions. >> what happens to the 11 mill twr on. >> we did not import these illegals to the united states. it's very hard to say you will mass deport them and we have a deportation group already and it's called i.c.e. they need the strength and
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support to carry through. we have a problem. >> so donald trump early on in the primary said they've got to leave. the good ones can come back. they've got it leave. that's foreign policy. >> they're laws in the books right now. that's what i.c.e. was testing and the second largest federal enforcement, law enforcement agency. you still believe that donald trump believes all 11 million have to leave? >> it's humanely, and i think it's simple. just cut off the government entitles that are costing taxpayers that these illegals are not paying the system. anderson, $113 billion per year and these illegals in the united states are costing and that's falling on the middle class. $64,000. >> do you hear trump talking about -- >> 11 million, many of whom have not committed crimes and what happens to them? he says it's a process. >> if you cut off all government entitlements that we the taxpayers are paying for right now, they will leave as families and you simplify -- >> that's not trump's position. trump is saying it.
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>> hold on. may i finish? i agree with paul that it does take a year and i think mr. trump agrees that we need to simplify the system so those that want to come into our community and add to the americans. >> as someone who has worked on the actual issue of illegal immigration in the legislative branch which is what it would take to actually implement any of these things, you never hear donald trump talk about the fact that anything he's proposed has to go through congress. he keeps saying, you know, we'll build the wall and i guarantee it, i, i, i. he'll sign an order on the first day. >> you can't. >> let me finish. the money has to be appropriated and the appropriation process goes through congress. i was there when they passed the border fence bill, and that never got built because of all of the other problems and that was under a republican congress and a republican president. so it's not as simple. he's been over promising something to people because they don't a, understand the process, neither does he and he can't do that, number one. it's unconstitutional. number two, no one knows, like
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scotty, do yourself a favor, what he has done is just completely muddied this issue in a way because he's fledgling now and he overpromised in the primary, promising and building on the resentment of people because of illegal immigration and those statistics are true. what he's proposing isn't going to solve that. all of them propose the exact same thing. >> andre, there is an argument that he clearly has some advisers who are probably saying to him, you've got to soften in order to reach out to some key demographics. you've got to do something. i mean, to you as a supporter, does it seem he's caught to needing to reach out to new voters and what he said in the past? >> i think the folks that surround him said you need to soften on this, it's not doable. mexico will pay for it. >> how do you think the money goes there? just in fairness --
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>> you, even though you're a supporter. >> no question he's hostened on the issue and i think that's because of the people -- let's be clear. he has flip-flopped on the issue. >> no. >> we talk about the 11 million and there's another number, 81 million and it includes undocumented and also documented immigrants and their and undo you meaned immigrants and their u.s.-born children. he does not have a policy for these 81 million individuals in this country 75 days away from this election and that is unconscionable for the leader of a major political party in this country. i don't understand how we've gotten to this point and he does not have a policy. that said -- >> that's what hillary said to solve the problem. >> that said -- that said -- that said my -- my concern is that even if we want to extract some measure of legitimate
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policy on him it will depend on the room that he's in at the time and that to me is incredibly dangerous because if you're trying to sort of get to him and say even if you're a republican that is not a trump supporter and you want to have some measure of immigration reform, mind you, he vanquished 16 or 17 of his colleagues that actually believed in some kind of immigration reform during the primary, even if you want to believe him, you can't -- there's nothing you can do to actually -- >> we have to take a quick break and a lot to come, i asked donald trump if he really does believe that hillary clinton is, what he called her, a bigot.
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welcome back. as you heard at the top of the program, hillary clinton had the sharpest words yet for donald trump saying his real message is, and i'm quoting her, make america hate again. her overall assessment is nothing really new, but some of the language and the bluntness of it is from her. donald trump meantime has long accused her of being divisive. he's now saying that she herself is a bigot. he said that last night in a
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speech and that's such a strong allegation because he's sparked the argument that she is the founder of isis and he was meant as sarcasm. >> you called last night hillary clinton a bigot. and you directly called her a bigot. >> she is a bigot because when you look at what's happening to the inner cities and you look at what's happening to african-americans and hispanics in this country where she talks all of the time. look at the vets when she said the vets are being treated essentially just fine and that it's overexaggerated what's happening with the vets? >> how is she bigoted? >> because she's selling them down the tubes. because she's not doing anything for those communities. she talks a good game. >> she has hatred or dislike of black people? >> here policies are bigoted because she knows they're not going to work. >> do you think she personally is bigoted? >> of course, she is. they're her policies and she comes up with the policies and others that believe like she
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does also, and she came out with policies over the years. this is over the years, a long time. she's totally bigoted. >> it does imply that she has antipathy or hated red towatowa >> i think she is extremely bad for african-americans and hispanics and you look at what happens to her policies and the policies of president obama and others. look at the poverty. look at the rise in poverty. look at the rise in violence. >> hatred is at the core of that or dislike of african-americans? >> or maybe she's lazy. i don't know what it is. all i can tell you is i've been hearing the same stuff from her and others for years and the inner cities today are worse than they ever have been. >> have you always thought she was bigoted? >> as a business person i never thought of it. >> she has a history of working -- >> as you know, working, but not doing the job, and i'm now bringing it out for the first time. she hasn't done the job. >> the overwhelming number of
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african-americans who support her -- >> well, take a look at what's happened over the last two weeks since i've been talking about the subject. take a look at what's happened and take a look at the most recent polls. >> do you think it would make a difference and you can get a higher number? >> i think we'll do well for the of a c african-americans and they'll give me a chance. she's been a disaster. the inner cities are worse than they've ever been. you have 40% rates of poverty. you have black youth that can't get jobs and 58% can't get jobs and education is a disaster. they've been talking about this since i was 5 years old and understood what was going on. they have been talking about this for years. hillary clinton talks about it all of the time. she has done a horrible job, and then you add all of the scandal and the lies and the deception to the e-mails and she should be in jail. hillary clinton should be in jail. you know it. the fbi director knows it, everybody else knows it, she should be in jail.
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what she did with erasing 33,000 e-mails, she shouldn't be out even talking about inner cities or running for president. >> one of the things you've been saying recently in talking to african-americans addressing them in large rallies is saying what have you got to lose? what the hell have you got to lose? >> absolutely. that's the way i look at it. >> the way you're categorizing it, some of them are insulted by some of the language. >> i don't think they are. i think if they heard me they wouldn't be insulted at all. >> you don't have jobs and you don't have schools. >> that's a fact. >> they're shot on their streets. look at chicago. >> for the vast majority of african-americans -- >> 40% are living in poverty. >> 40%? >> i have 40. i have a different stat than you do. >> the foundation has 26%. >> whether it's 26 or 40. you can look at it any way and i know you want to protect her as much as you can. >> let me tell you, anderson. she's done a horrible job and her policies don't work and it's a disaster for african-americans and you see what's happening because many of them who watch
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my speeches are saying, he's right. they've been doing this for 50, 60, 70 years and i say what do you have to lose. i'll tell you something, not only what do you have to lose, i will fix it. >> african-american supporters we talked to say they would like you to go into an african-american church. >> i'm going to do that very soon. >> in fact, i'm going to deright and other places. i've been invited to many. >> that's definitely something you are going to do? >> in fact, i think i'm doing a couple of things over the next two weeks and a couple of visits. >> how much improvement do you think you will make with the african-american vote? >> i can only tell you that she can fix the inner cities. >> not only can't she, she doesn't have a chance. >> back with the panel. scotty, do you really think he has a chance to get a lot more african-american support? >> i would hope so because there'sing in more appealing than offering a job and offering hope. that's why barack obama was leched for, to offer the hope and change.
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what the republican party has to offer and how mr. trump was never considered to be a racist and he's never had the problem before until he ran for president and he has a long track record and supported the african-american community. >> let's go back to when he donated an entire floor on wall street to jesse jackson and the rainbow coalition because he wanted to encourage diversity. >> he got a tax write-off for that. >> you're going to have a -- >> i'm going to tell you the truth. >> he chose to partner with jesse jackson and chose to encourage. >> called for the killing of five black teens. >> but that's -- but that's beside the point. but that's beside the point. >> let scotty answer. the real victim was a woman who was brutally raped and she was left for dead. >> absolutely correct. >> and the entire city of new york was looking for a solution and problem to that. >> no, no, no. since you raised it. i know, i read it. let me tell you the solution -- >> the problem was he was emotional. it was one of those things that
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new york city and they were looking for a problem and -- >> by the way -- >> no, guys, stop! guys, stop! no viewers know what you're talking about. the central park five who were falsely accused, sent to prison for years and years and years and there was no evidence. there was no dna evidence and it was all this witch hunt by the media at the time, by new york politicians, donald trump i think took out a full-page ad. >> the jury actually convicted them, too. he was backing up the guilty verdict. [ indiscernible ] >> i was 17 years old at the time and when he was talking about reinstituting the death penalty for these children i was -- i took that personally. he stoked the racial animosity in the city. >> excuse me. he stoked the racial an imus in this city and that was hurtful. that was hurtful and it
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continued even after they were exonerated and got a settlement from the city. >> by donald trump. >> at the time they were convicted. >> absolutely by donald trump. absolutely by donald trump and let me go further. his so-called engagement of the african-american community is only this. it's talking about black people and all he has done in talking about black people is throw up every negative, racial stereotype of the african-american community. on the other hand -- on the other hand. >> he didn't support promoting with his own organization african-american men and women. >> but this is something completely different because when he goes out there and talks about you could be shot walking through the streets of a black neighborhood. anybody could be shot. tell me where he was when everyone's calling for gun control and going against his republican colleagues? did he do that? no, but he wrapped himself in the flag of the nra. >> hold on here. that is a false fact. >> the cities that have the toughest gun control laws is
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where we're having the highest gun control crime. >> what is donald trump doing with respect to issues that are endemic to my community? what is he doing? >> he's offering jobs and to offer incentives for companies to go into the urban areas. >> for whom? >> unlike hillary clinton who has a track record and she sat there and praised senator byrd saying that he was her mentor, that he should be respected and he was a leader of the kkk. >> but let's talk about -- >> he actually voted against the civil right. >> let's talk about hillary clinton. >> let's talk about hillary clinton and the senate. hillary clinton who started six schools to support african-american and latino young men to go to college and improved their college going and career. >> she praised the kkk grand recruiter. >> one at a time. >> not only that, but she has worked with ministers across the state of new york on economic development and housing priorities for them. that is real.
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that is documented. she has engaged african-americans in every approximate policy area where they've been discriminated. >> we've got to take a break and we'll continue this conversation and after the break we'll have more of my interview with donald trump ahead and more on his thoughts on hillary clinton and her comments on him today. all of that, stay tuned. what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles.
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i've got more of my interview with donald trump ahead and you will hear what he said when i asked him when he refused to rent to african-americans in the 1970s. i brought it up because secretary clinton brought it up today and i wanted to give him a chance to respond and he added the notion that hillary clinton is a bigot to his repertoire and he stopped by when i spoke with him today. >> you called last night hillary clinton a bigot and previously you called her policies bigoted. >> she is a bigot. you look at what's happening to the inner cities and what's happening to african-americans and hispanics in the country. look at the vets when the vets were treated essentially just fine and it's overexaggerated what's happening. >> how is she bigoted? bigoted is having hatred.
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>> she's selling them down the tubes. because she's not doing anything for those communities. >> back with the panel. tara, what do you think the idea on leveling this charge against hillary clinton now at the same time that she's essentially leveling a similar charge against donald trump? is it to try to negate that in some way? >> i think it's classic projection and donald trump has a history of bigotry in areas that we can point to starting with the housing discrimination case in the 1970s where it wasn't just once. it was three times the justice department had to go after him for it and you know, it starts there and the central park five which we just talked about which he never apologized for, by the way. >> a lot of republicans say this is a charge that's always made against republicans. >> right. that is true. that is something that's thrown at us a lot except that none of those candidates had an actual record that people could point to. donald trump has a problem in this area, and hillary clinton, god help me, but she laid out a
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pretty good case about that today with things that are documented. we're not making this up. look, donald trump even with the documented cases, even in his language the way that he speaks about the issues and the minority communities is stereotyping and insulting. jack kemp who was someone who influenced me a lot in my conservatism, jack kemp approached everything from an economic perspective and he said that you know, economic empowerment knows no color and that people of all colors, they want an access to the ladder of opportunity that everybody, including black families, hispanic families and they want the ability to make a living, educate their children and leave a nest egg for their kids and if donald trump approached things that way. telling black people when you'll be shot when you walk down the street -- >> i get it. >> that's not the way to do it? hillary clinton has been in hibernation. she hadn't taken questions from the press and she's got a roped off line. all of a sudden when she gets
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beat up a little bit on more of her indiscretions with the secret server and the -- >> and the clinton foundation. >> absolutely. all of that comes up and all of a sudden, bam, let's go after donald trump being a bigot. i made a couple of notes. she did stupport byrd. >> you want that talk about bigot? that is a bigot. >> he apologized for that and spent the most of his adult life, apologizing for that. >> in 1964 he was still filibustering. >> he organized the kkk. he organized 150 members of the kkk in west virginia and it wasn't like he was a member and he organized. and he was a against same-sex marriage. she mentioned super predators and talked about carrying hot sauce in her purse. >> she actually does do that, i
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have to say. what's wrong with that? >> usually i'm the most fair and even keel guy and this aggravates me. >> i have a whole lot more left, anderson. >> what about the charge that democrats will level this charge against republicans? >> there is something to the fact that democrats in election after election have said this about a can at and it was said about mitt romney and it was said in certain ways about george w. bush who at the moment is looked at in a very different way and who had to prominent black officials in this cabinet and it's just not the same thing. trump gets very, very upset and people around him get very upset at the accusations about racism and what you have seen him do today is what we have seen him do over the last several weeks is a charge that she levels at him and he levels back in the same form. he does have opportunities he could take that he is not availing himself of and that has been confusing. he lives in a city with a large black community. there are churches he can go to.
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welcome back. for part three of the interview with donald trump in new hampshire today, i asked him about the lawsuit we reported about on this program last night which hillary clinton brought up, his battle with the justice department over allegations his company systematiccally kept african-american tenants out of his buildings many decades ago. we also spoke about the alt-right movement, an ideology full of white nationalism in some cases, mysogeny and antisemitism. trump's campaign ceo steve bannon told mother jones last month that his website, breitbart, had become the platform for the alt-right. >> i want to start by what hillary clinton is now coming at you with. i talked to her last night. she called into my show. she said you are bringing hate mainstream by embracing the so-called alt-right movement, you are peddling bigotry, prejudice and paranoia. >> well, first of all, we are bringing love. you see these rooms. they are packed with people that
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have been just left behind. i call it the forgotten men and women. they have been left behind by people like her who are third rate politicians who talk and they don't produce. you look at our inner cities, our inner cities are a disaster and the african-american people are realizing that the democrats who have run these inner cities for 75 and 100 years, they just left them. >> are you embracing the alt-right movement? >> nobody even knows what it is. she didn't know what it was. this is a term that was just given that frankly, there's no alt-right or alt-left. all i'm embracing is common sense. >> steve bannon said breitbart is the voice of the alt-right. >> i don't know what steve said. i can only speak for myself. you see the enthusiasm. these are great people. these are people that have not been heard for many years and now they have been heard. first time in many many decades. in fact, some people say the first time, period. i think we are going to do very well. you see what's going on with the polls over the last three or four days. i think we are going to do very
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well. she is somebody that's all talk, no action. look at the lies, look at the deception, look at what's happened with her e-mails, look at the erasing of 33,000 e-mails. she should be ashamed of herself. she should get back to work for the people. she doesn't do that. >> i want to read you one more thing she said today in her speech. she said this is what i want to make clear today, a man with a long history of racial discrimination who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and the far reaches of the internet should never run our government or command our military. >> it's an incorrect statement. first of all, we were sued many, many years ago when i was very young by the government, sued many many companies. you know that. it wasn't me. they sued many companies. >> the company was sued for not allowing black people -- >> you know what, they found nothing. they found absolutely nothing. >> you settled. >> i settled, no awards, no nothing. >> didn't people in your company use the word -- >> i don't even know. honestly, what a superintendent does in a building, that i can't tell you. but i can just tell you that they settled the case and that
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was the end of it. it was many years ago. i guess they found we did nothing wrong because we didn't have to do anything. we didn't have any payments to make, we didn't have to pay $20 million in fines. we didn't have -- >> you didn't pay any money in order to settle? >> this is a long time ago but i don't believe so, no. >> much more ahead on this two-hour edition of "360" including that indictment of donald trump today by hillary clinton, accusing him of building his campaign on prejudice and paranoia.
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