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this morning can you identify donald trump's immigration plan? can he? an exclusive interview with cnn that turns everything he has been saying for the last week upside down. and hillary clinton hitting trump hard while he doubles down calling her a bigot. you have to see their harshest attacks yet. welcome to "early start." it's friday morning. i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. that is early if you were up late at a concert last night. >> it was worth it.
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overnight, everything changed with the immigration plan or change back or didn't. at this point, it is difficult to tell. it all played out in an exclusive interview with cnn. the question is does donald trump still believe all 11 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s. need to go? last week, he said yes. then he said no. now in an interview with anderson cooper, donald trump is back to saying undocumented immigrants will have no path to legal status unless they leave first. on top of all of this, a three-hour stretch of the campaign where candidates were arguing who was the bigger bigot, explosive language on the campaign trail. jason carroll has it all for us. >> reporter: christine, john, the trump campaign trying to sort through the muddled
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message. the trump campaign has been specific saying trump has been consistent when it comes to his point of view saying he always said no path to citizenship. no amnesty. what is clear is the message is unclear and the only one who can clear it up is donald trump. listen to how he tried to clear up the message last night with anderson cooper. >> if they haven't committed a crime, is there a path to citizenship? >> there is no path to legalization. unless people leave the country -- when they come back in, if they come back in, they can start paying taxes. there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. >> reporter: that is what he told anderson cooper. he made other conflicting statements in other interviews. >> they'll pay back taxes. they have to pay taxes. there's no amnesty as such.
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we work with them. now, okay, when i look at it and everybody agrees we get the bad ones out. when i go through and meet thousands and thousands of people on the subject and i had very strong people come up to me. really great, great people come up to me. they said mr. trump, i love you. to take a person that's been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and the family out. it is a tough thing. it's a very hard thing. >> you have to send people out. >> i would get people out and have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. >> how do you do it in a practical way? >> they have to leave. >> you have to have a deportation force. >> reporter: i spoken to a number of trump supporters who said if trump softens his position on immigration, donald trump will lose their votes. one supporter in particular told
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me one of the reasons he likes donald trump so much is because he is plain spoken and clearly this is a subject where he is not as clear as he needs to be. once again, the only one who can ultimately clear this up is donald trump. the campaign hoping he will finally be able to do that when he delivers his policy speech on immigration next wednesday in phoenix. christine, john. >> jason, thank you. trump's shift on immigration is drawing fire from jeb bush. while attacking the stances on the subject. some of those echo he mocked bush for during the primary. when trump was taking a hard line, bush advocated letting them stay. now in a new interview, bush says this looks like it is all a game to donald trump.
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>> i can only say that whatever his views are this morning, they may change and they were different than last night and they'll be different from tomorrow. his views seem to be ever changing depending on which crowd. sounds like a typical politician. you get in front of one crowd and say one thing and get in front of another crowd. >> after jeb bush gave that interview, trump went back to saying all 11 million undocumented immigranted has to leave. and there is also the battle over bigotry. hillary clinton delivering a speech in nevada. in the interview with anderson coop cooper, donald trump said i know
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you are but what am i. hillary clinton is a bigot. listen to this. >> you called hillary clinton a bigot. previously you called her policies bigoted. >> she is a bigot. you look at what is happening to the inner cities and african-americans and hispanics in this country where she talks all the time. she is talking. look at the vets. she is saying they are treated just fine. it is over exaggerated. >> that is having -- >> she is selling them down the tubes. she is not doing anything for the communities. >> she has hatred? >> her policies are bigoted because she knows they will not work. >> you are saying she is personally bigoted. >> she is. she comes out with the policies and others that believe like she does also. she came out with policies over the years. this is over the years. long time. she's totally bigoted.
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>> she has hatred? in this case you are talking about african-americans. >> she has been extremely bad for african-americans. i think she has been extremely bad for hispanics. you look at what happened with her policies and policies of president obama and others. look at the poverty. look at the rise in poverty. look at the rise in violence. >> hatred is at the core of it? >> maybe she's lazy. >> so that was trump holding the line on his attack against hillary clinton as bigoted. she is lashing back in kind. at a rally, she handed the republican party over to a paranoid fringe element. we have jeff zeleny with more. >> reporter: hillary clinton has delivered a lot of speeches on trump. there has never been like the one thursday in reno. she questioned donald trump's
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connection to the alt-right movement. she says it is a divisive radical movement. >> a lot of it rising from racial resentment. it never had the nominee of a major party stoking it, encouraging it and giving it a national mega phone until now. >> reporter: she cited examples from bob dole from the 1996 convention when he said racists should leave the party. she talked about george bush. she talked about john mccain who criticized those who question president obama's faith back in 2008. she said that trump is a different kind of republican. a different conservatively.
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she called it dangerous. the question, of course, is she a credible messenger? will they follow her heed? >> jeff zeleny. a new hillary clinton campaign video is also accusing donald trump of racism. trying to connect donald trump to the kkk and charging him to being slow to disavow david duke. in a tweet, trump responded saying of hillary clinton, she should be ashamed of herself. and last night he rejected the support of racist voters. >> do you want white supremac t supremacists to vote for you? >> not at all. we love our country. we want our country to come back. >> other news, a federal judge set a deadline for the state department to deliver some of hillary clinton's e-mails uncovered by the fbi with the
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clock ticking toward election day in november. the state department must hand the e-mails over to judicial watch by september 13th. this is related to the benghazi attacks. wwjd. what will janet do? wall street waiting on words from one woman. janet yellen speaking this morning at the economic symposium in wyoming. investors will parse every word to see how strong the u.s. when is. other members of the fed spoken to a rate hike sooner. why? the strong housing market and while experts say yellen is unlikely to indicate a hike next month, some say 85% expect a hike this year. the fed left the rates steady. u.s. stocks fell yesterday in anticipation of what janet yellen will say.
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global markets are lower. futures are flat. it all depends on her. >> not much pressure. it all depends on her. at least 267 people dead in the earthquake in italy. there are aftershocks this morning causing such problems with recovery efforts. you can see some of the pictures of the destruction. we will have the very latest next.
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most people using stelara® saw 75% clearer skin and the majority were rated as cleared or minimal at 12 weeks. be the you who talks to your dermatologist about stelara®. this morning, aftershocks are hamt ever halt ev are hampering search efforts. emergency crews are racing against the clock trying to find survivors in the rubble. a state of emergency is in effect. we want to bring in barbie nadeau. she is in saletta.
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>> reporter: look at the scene behind me. this is what we are dealing with now. the aftermath of the devastating earthquake. what is hampering the efforts to clean up the mess and make sure they have all of the bodies out is the fact there are so many aftershocks. since midnight, there have been 57. one was 4.8 on the richter scale. we heard it and felt it because buildings started crumbling down. there have been 928 aftershocks since the earthquake started. crews have to run for safety. we have seen it time and time again. those things are hampering the speed at which the operation is going. what we see here this morning is so much infrastructure in place. we are seeing over 6,000 people here trying to help the
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survivors and victims who lost family members. one thing as we interview people who lost everything, we find maybe not everyone lost a relative. this was a tight-knit community and someone lost someone in the community. >> it is important to know everyone is connected to the disaster. barbie nadeau, thank you. officials say more than 65 pounds of heroin was transported from mexico to new york city where it was seized this week. prosecutors arrested two drug traffickers in a well-run operation. the amount of drugs seized could have filled 750,000 doses. authorities are investigating the deaths of two nuns in mississippi.
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this is an awful story. the victims both 68 years old, were killed in their home. the medical examiner said they were stabbed and there was evidence of a break-in. the two nuns were in a medical clinic that provided free treatment for the poor. a california judge is taken off criminal cases. judge aaron persky was harshly criticized for sentencing brock turner to six months. turner could have received 14 years. the judge who is a stanford alum is facing recall. ryan lochte charged in brazil. the olympic medalist is now being called back to rio to talk about the blowback over his over exaggerated claims of robbery.
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american swimmer ryan lochte hoped an apology was enough. it was not. brazilian authorities are charging him with falsely reporting a crime. he could be tried in abstensia if he doesn't return to rio. i'm sure you thought the olympics were over, but no. >> reporter: that is right. police have charged ryan lochte
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with a false police report. now the u.s. attorney will be advised of the charges. he is not legally required to come back and introduce a defense. if a judge finds him guilty, this carries one to six months in jail or a judge could slap him with a fine. this started when ryan lochte claimed he and three other swimmers were heading back to the olympic village and they were pulled over by robbers posing as police and put a gun to his head and stole his wallet. when police looked into it, what happened is an altercation at a gas station which involved the swimmers urinating against a back wall, vandalism and armed security guards. since then, all four swimmers have apologized. the problem is lochte was in the united states. his colleague jimmy feigen had to negotiate a fine with the
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judge to get out of the country. the next step here in the lochte case, the police presented the charges to prosecutors. they will decide to present to a judge. if the judge convicts him, it is unlikely it will be played out. >> all right. shasta darlington, thank you. 45 injured at a police checkpoint in the town along the syrian border. turkey run tv says so far no claim of responsibility. special forces in northern syria. the troops came in wednesday to help syrian rebels to take the town of jarabulus. turkey's president is making clear the operation is designed to expand.
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al shabaab claiming responsibility for the terror attack in the somali capital of mogadishu. several stormed in the resort. donald trump telling cnn he is not softening his position on immigration and he has what seems to be a new position overnight. this was an exclusive interview with cnn. we'll lay it all out for you next. to be reckoned with... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®.
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donald trump is now saying he is hardening his immigration plan just one day after he said he is softening it or appeared to be softening it. we are digging in what donald trump thinks about immigration. plus, the battle over
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bigotry. explosive charges. a blistering speech from hillary clinton laying out what she sees as donald trump's ties to racism. welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is friday, 31 minutes past the hour. overnight, everything changed with the immigration plan or changed back or didn't. it is difficult to tell. it is all playing out here with the interview on cnn. the question is does donald trump still believe that all 11 million undocumented immigrants in the united states need to go, by force if necessary? until last week, he said yes. he seemed to say no. some could stay. we will work with them, he said. a softening, it was called. now in an interview with anderson cooper, he is back to saying undocumented immigrants will have no path to legal
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status unless they leave the country first. jason carroll is breaking it down. >> reporter: christine, john, the trump campaign trying to sort through a muddled message on immigration. the trump campaign has been very specific saying that trump has been consistent when it comes to his point of view saying he always said no path to citizenship. no amnesty. what is clear is that the message is unclear and the only one who can clear it up is donald trump. listen to how he tried to clear up the message last night with anderson cooper. >> if they haven't committed a crime, is there a path to legalization? i'm talking citizenship. >> there is no path to legalization unless people leave the country. when they come back in, if they come back in, they can start paying taxes. >> they still have to leave? >> no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. >> reporter: that's what he told
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anderson cooper. he also made other conflicting statements in other interviews on the subject of immigration. >> they pay back taxes. they have to pay taxes. there's no amnesty as such. but we work with them. now, okay, when i look at the rooms and everybody agrees we get the bad ones out. i go through and meet thousands and thousands of people on the subject and i had very strong people come up to me. really great, great people come up to me and they said, mr. donald trump, i love you. to take a person that's been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and the family out, it is so tough. i have it all the time. it's a very, very hard thing. >> you have to send people out. >> i would get people out and have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. >> they have to go out. >> how do you do it in a practical way? >> you have a deportation force. >> reporter: i spoken to a
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number of trump supporters who told me if donald trump in any way quote/unquote softens his position on immigration, trump will lose their votes. one supporter said one reason why he likes donald trump so much is because he is plain spoken and clearly this a subject where he is not been as clear as he needs to be. once again, the only one to clear this up is donald trump. the campaign hoping he will finally be able to do that when he delivers his policy speech on immigration next wednesday in phoenix. christine, john. >> jason, thank you. to be clear, donald trump's latest position to anderson cooper last night was all 11 million undocumented immigrants have to go before they come back to get status. that is the new latest old position. his shifts on immigration are drawing fire from jeb bush whom
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trump beat for the nomination. some of the positions trump held at least temporarily the past week seemed to echo those of bush. this was before he changed again. one example when trump was supporting deportation. and bush said they could stay as long as they meet criteria. now bush says this is all a game to trump. >> i can only say that whatever his views are this morning, they may change this afternoon and they were different from last night and they will be different tomorrow. i cannot comment on his views. his views seem to be ever changing depending on which crowd. sounds like a typical politician. you get in front of one crowd and say one thing and say something else to another crowd that may want to hear a different view. all of the things donald trump railed against he seemed to be
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morphing into. >> there is the battle over bigotry. hillary clinton with a speech in nevada laying out donald trump's connection to racist speech, action and policy. in the interview with anderson cooper, trump basically said i know you are, but what am i. listen. >> you called last night hillary clinton a bigot. previously you called policies big bigoted. >> you look at what is happening to inner cities and african-americans and hispanics of the country where she talks all the time. she is talking. look at the vets. she said the vets are treated essentially just fine. that is overexaggerated. >> how is she bigoted? having hatred to a particular group. >> she talks good game. >> she has hatred? >> policies are bigoted because she knows they will not work.
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>> you are saying she is personally bigoted. >> of course she is. they he are hare her policies. she came out with policies over the years. this is over the years. long time. she is totally bigoted. >> she has hatred toward in this case african-americans. >> she has been extremely bad for african-americans. i think she has been extremely bad for hispanics. you look at what has happened with her policies and policies of president obama and others. look at the rise in poverty and look at the rise in violence? >> hatred is at the core of that? >> maybe she's lazy. >> all right. this all started from donald trump because hillary clinton scheduled what her campaign billed as a big speech directed at donald trump charging him essentially of racism and arguing he handed the republican
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party over to a paranoid fringe element. jeff zeleny is following the clinton campaign. >> reporter: john and christine, hillary clinton has delivered a lot of speeches on donald trump, but never quite like the one she gave thursday here in reno. she questioned donald trump's connection to the alt-right movement on the internet largely. she says it is a divisive and radical movement. it is unprecedented for donald trump to be involved in it. >> there has always been a paranoid fringe in our politics. a lot of it arising from racial resentment. it never had the nominee of a major party stoking it, encouraging it and giving it a mega phone until now. >> reporter: she cited examples from bob dole during the 1996
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convention when he said racists should leave the party. she talked about bush talking about muslims after 9/11. she talked about john mccain who questioned obama's faith in 2008. she said this is a different type of conservatism. the question, of course, is she a credited messenger? >> jeff zeleny in reno. a clinton campaign video accusing trump of racism. connecting trump to the kkk charging him with being slow to disavow the support of former kkk leader david duke. in a tweet, trump responded she should be ashamed of herself. he rejected the support of racist voters. >> do you want white supremacists to vote for you? >> not at all.
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this is not about hate. this is about love. we love our country. we want our country to come back. we want our country to be strong. a federal judge delivered a deadline with the e-mails to be delivered from the fbi. they should be handed over by september 13th. time for an early start on your money. the world hanging on every word from one powerful woman. janet yellen. she speaks in jackson hole, wyoming. look for hints of the timing of the next interest rate hike. stocks fell. the health care sector lost 1% yesterday. thanks to epi-pen maker mylan who is under fire for raising the price of the life-saving drug more than 400% since 2009. and the ex-pharmaceutical ceo
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martin shkreli is now defending the price increase. he made headlines last year when his company raised the price of a drug 5,000% overnight. and mylan's ceo said they will take steps to make the drug more affordable. a $300 savings card and increase in financial assistance. that came under fire and people said why not roll back the price? it is still a higher price than people paid a few years ago. all right. overnight, aftershocks in italy get anything the way of the rescue efforts and recovery efforts after the devastating earthquake in the mountain region there. we will go live for an update next. nice
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this morning, aftershocks are hampering search efforts after the devastating earthquake in the mountains in italy. crews are racing against the clock to find survivors in the rubble. i want to bring in barbie nadeau live in saletta, italy. what is the latest, barbie? >> reporter: we felt so many aftershocks. there have been 928 aftershocks since the earthquake took place. 57 since midnight last night here. we felt them. one was 4.8. the problem with the aftershock is not just the survivors are put back in the moment of panic, but it really hampers the rescue operation. they are still working against the clock trying to find people who might still be alive under
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rubble that looks something like this. they moved in heavy equipment. they with pulling off the big pieces. if you look at the rubble, this was someone's house. a two-story house. you can see the bit of the bed on top. you can see a pool cue here on the corner. lawn chairs. flowers on the balcony here. the rescue operators think in this particular case, they cleared it. they know there is not anyone. all over the area, there are piles like this. sifting through hoping for that miracle that will keep everybody going. instead, they are trying and finding body after body as they move more rubble, they find more of the dead. that is why the death rate continues to rise. >> barbie nadeau, thank you. authorities say a major heroin seizure in new york could have an impact on opioid
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overdoses in the united states. 65 pounds of heroin transported from mexico to new york city where it was seized this week. two suspected drug traffickers were arrested. they say the amount of drugs seized could have filled 750,000 doses. investigators looking into the deaths of two nuns in mississippi. both 68 years old were killed in their home. the medical examiner says they were stabbed and there was evidence of a break-in. police found their abandoned car a short distance away. the two nuns ran a medical clinic. at his own request, the california judge is being taken off criminal cases. judge aaron persky who was criticized by a lot of people after sentencing brock turner to six months for sexual assault of
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a woman while she was unconscious. turner could have received 14 years. the judge, who is a stanford alum is facing recall efforts. he will hear civil cases next month. south florida looking ahead to stormy weather. let's get to meteorologist derek van dam. >> good morning, john and christine. we are monitoring an area of disorganized thunderstorm activity across the bahamas. the national weather service has the potential for development of five days out for a hurricane. in the near term, a lot of things working against this storm. that being strong upper level wind shear and a lot of dry air a lot of aloft. we have the potential of heavy rainfall through southern florida. some models indicating 4 to 6 inches. into monday and tuesday and wednesday of next week, this low
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will enter the warm waters of the gulf of mexico. that is when we need to monitor it very closely. we have a cold front draping across the new england coastline. it will provide some relief, but above average for the big apple. thank you, derek. where in the world could your uber fare be cheaper than a bus ride? i'll tell you with an early start on your money next. boter gel. rogena with hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena
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american swimmer ryan lochte hoped an apology would be enough. brazilian authorities charged lochte with falsely reporting a crime in an incident at the rio gas station. he could be tried in abstensia if he doesn't return to rio. shasta darlington has more on
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the story that just keeps turning. >> reporter: that is right. ryan lochte is charged with falsifying a police report. evidence of the misadventure during the olympics is not going away. he can prepare a defense, but he is not legally required to come back. if a judge convicts him, this crime carries one to six months in prison or the judge could opt to slap him with a fine. this started with lochte claiming he and three teammates were in a taxi and pull over by robbers posing as police and put a gun to his head and demanded his wallet. police said he was lying. an altercation at a gas station that involved urinating against the back wall and vandalism and armed security guards. at this point, when all of this came to light, the four swimmers apologized, but lochte was
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already back in the united states. jimmy feigen had to pay a fine of $10,000 to get out of brazil to get back to the states. in this particular case, now the prosecutors have to decide if they take the police charges to a judge. again, if a judge convicts him, it is highly unlikely brazil will try to extradite him. the problem is with the sponsors. >> the big sponsors dropped him. he did get a new sponsor of a cough drop. john berman is coughing. it is not funny, john. thank you, shasta. 11 people killed and 70 injured at the explosion at the checkpoint along the syrian border. the two injured in serious condition. so far, there is no claim of responsibility. this morning, tanks and special forces in northern syria.
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the troops streamed in by u.s. air power. they helped retake the town of jarabulus. turkey's president said this was designed to prevent syrian kurds from reclaiming territory. and al shabaab is claiming at least 7 people killed in a beach club resort. several stormed in the restaurant after a car exploded outside. let's get an early start on your money. wall street waiting on the speech by janet yellen. the world hanging on every word. they want to know the timing of the next interest rate hike. just how strong she thinks the u.s. economy is. stocks fell yesterday in anticipation of the remarks. global markets are lower. uber is testing a flat rate
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option. this service would cost you $2 to catch a shared uber pool. uber plus. it charges a flat rate for each ride. it is tested in a handful of cities. this may be a good deal for customers. bloomberg reports the company lost $1 billion in the first half of the year. losing a lot of money as it tries to fine tune that business model. the economists who advised former presidents are no fan of donald trump. the paper surveyed 45 former white house economic advisors. of the 17 presidents polled, none openly support donald trump. this is not surprising. trump has broken with the gop on many policy positions. the paper polled democrats. 13 of whom came out in support of clinton. i have to tell you, there are a few economists who like his
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views on trade, but most do not. >> it is an interesting article to read. it is not surprising how donald trump distanced himself. >> he would call them part of the status quo. he would say you are part of the problem. "early start" continues right now. this morning, can you identify donald trump's immigration plan? can he? an exclusive interview with cnn that turns everything he has been saying for the last week upside down again. hillary clinton hitting donald trump hard. this is after or during the fact that donald trump is calling her a bigot. explosive charges on race being hurled back and forth. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is friday. 5:00 a.m. in the east. overnight, everything changed
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with the donald trump immigration plan or changed back or it did not. it played out in the interview with cnn. the question is does donald trump still believe that all 11 million undocumented immigrants need to go by force if necessary? last week he said yes. then he said no. then he said he will work with them. a softening they called it. in an interview with anderson coop cooper, trump is saying undocumented immigrants will have no path to status unless they leave first. jason carroll has more. >> reporter: the trump campaign trying to sort through the muddled message on immigration. the trump campaign has been specific saying donald trump has been consistent when it comes to his point of view. saying he always said no path to citizenship. no amnesty. what is

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