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certainly in southern louisiana. i am briana keilar. that is it for me. wolf blitzer will be back here on monday after his couple weeks of granddad duty. thank you very much for watching. "erin burnett out front" starts now. breaking news -- the clinton campaign accusing trump of pushing ku klux klan values. an explosive new charge tonight. plus, the trump campaign's new ceo accused of attacking his ex-wife. the details from that case coming to light. and a sitting governor leaves a profanity-laced, threatening voicemail. we'll talk to the lawmaker who got that message. let's go "out front." good evening, i'm jim sciutto in for elin burnett.
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breaking news, tim kaine equating klan values with trump values. >> he has supporters like david duke connected with the ku klux klan who are going around and saying donald trump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values, david duke values, donald trump values are not american values. they're not our values, and we've got to do all we can to fight to push back and win. >> reporter: this is the latest attack in an increasingly explosive war of words, particularly over race. each candidate accusing the other of bigotry and racism. moments ago, rnc spokesman sean sponsor tweeted, "kkk comments are reprehensible and over the top. democrats who don't denounce are complicit." miguel marquez, both campaigns digging in on this increasingly aggressive line of attack.
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>> it is aggressive. they are digging in. it may be the dog days of summer, but you wouldn't know it by the fact that the hot-button issue of race is playing center stage in presidential politics. >> a man with a long history of racial discrimination who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and these kind of white supremacist, white nationalist, anti-semitic groups should never run our government or command our military. >> reporter: clinton and her campaign, keeping up a blistering race-based offense against donald trump. >> ku klux klan values, david duke values, donald trump values are not american values. >> reporter: trump rejecting outright support from david duke or other white supremacists. >> do you want white supremacists to vote for you? >> no, i don't at all. not at all. >> reporter: clinton citing trump's hiring of breitbart
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edtor steve bannon to run his campaign. his tirades against immigrants, americans, muslims, mexican americans, this tv ad running in swing states. >> what do you have to lose? you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. >> reporter: trump hitting back -- >> hillary clinton is a bigot. >> reporter: insisting clinton has the race problem. >> they are often the kinds of kids that are called super predators. >> reporter: trump releasing this instagram video highlighting a term clinton used in 1996. many see it as racist. she has apologized for it, but it has dogged her campaign. >> it was a racist term, and everybody knew it was a racist term. >> reporter: keep in mind that most polls show that minority voters have already made up their minds about these candidates. so the use of race in this situation seems to be candidates who are trying to point out that the other candidate, and this is for sort of moderate independent white voters out there, that
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other -- that the other candidate is worse on race. >> thank you very much. "out front," patrick healy, "new york times" political correspondent covering the 2016 presidential campaign. clinton supporter bazell smickel, boris epstein, clinton supporter bacari sellers, trump supporter paris denard, and correspondent for "the new york times," as well. you heard sean spicer moments ago saying democrats have to denounce these comments. do they? >> no. i mean -- and sean's a good friend of mine. let me raise my hand as being one complicit in the charge and assertion. for many people, especially young african-american millennials who i talk to a regular pace is, our fathers, our mothers got an opportunity to beat back many of the project disses, xenophobia, bigotry, hatred of the '50s, '60s, '70s. there are many thanks donald trump espousing.
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the xenophobia, bigotry, racism. having white nationalist say he's speaking to us, i think it's more than troublesome. trump has to do more than say i don't think i want their vote. he has to do what john mccain did. he has to do what bob dole did. he has to say that this has no place in the republican party. >> boris, the difference here is -- they're not hinting that these are related to. tim kaine equating them with kkk values. >> first of all, i was shocked to see tim kaine on the trail. i thought he was sleeping for the past month. haven't seen him at all. he looked very weak. weak attack dog. pathetic. this line started because donald trump went out there and started talking to the african-american communities. talking to the african-american people and saying that we want to revitalize inner cities. and the democrats became so paranoid, they started calling him a bigot and racist to respond. well, who is using race to divide people? not us, not our campaign. it's the democrats, and it's the language by tim kaine, the deplorable language by tim kaine you saw out this. it's disappointing that governor
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kaine decided to go this. he has no experience in national politics. that's why he decided to do it. >> so we're paranoid, is that -- >> the bottom line here? >> we're paranoid because -- we're paranoid because a man who is leading a national ticket didn't engage the black community. he spoke at the black community. he talked about black people. he talked about plaque people -- about black people in a way that was condescending and threw up every racial stereotype he could put together. >> no let -- >> i let you talk. let me talk -- i let you talk. now let me talk. >> you don't -- >> let me talk. >> okay. >> the bottom line is is that he has not -- as bacari said, he's not renounced a lot of want support -- >> yes, he disavowed, disavowed, disavowed. >> what he needs to do is if he's going to engage communities of color, go into the community. don't talk about them in absentia like they don't exist. >> he is going to community -- >> what he needed to do, he needed to do that early on.
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>> the timing -- >> listen, would you let me talk? >> let him finish. >> i want to let him finish and get your response. >> the fact is what donald trump is doing is incredibly dangerous. and he has not taken any proactive steps to tone it down and stop it. >> all he's doing is saying to the communities we want to revitalize you. we want a better life for everybody. what is wrong with that? >> in those communities -- >> let me say -- >> patrick first -- >> there's been a real run-up of hot language this week. it's worth remembering, though, that hillary clinton and her campaign have boon -- has been using the word "bigoted" to describe donald trump for months now. for months. and there's reason that they can certainly argue for why they've been doing that. >> kkk is a step up -- >> kkk is a step up. donald trump went to mississippi to call mrs. clinton a pigott. that word hadn't -- bigot. that word hadn't been used before. the problem for trump is he's opened himself up. he's vulnerable to this by his sort of hitting on -- attacks on
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illegal immigrants. the anti-semitic tweet. the language -- >> any candidate who's running this country for a long time. the -- >> i want to -- if donald trump has a path here with african-americans, why does hillary clinton today have 86% of the black vote to 2% for donald trump? >> a few months ago it was 0%, then 2 -- >> in the margin of error. >> 8% in some polls. >> i see a range. i think what you're seeing is hillary clinton is so desperate and afraid that donald trump is going to connect with the black community because he is speaking -- >> why do those numbers spark fear? 86% to 2%? >> is y -- why is she doing thi? >> i do want to ask managy to pipe in here. the trump campaign pushing, it's not just saying the word
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"bigot," but they've released campaign video. i'll show a clip here, bringing up her past statements. let's have a listen. >> dr. king's dream began to be realized when president lyndon johnson passed the civil rights act of 1964. >> it's as if you are minimizing "i have a dream." it's a nice sentiment, but it took a white president to get blacks to the mountaintop. >> the damage between the clintons and african-americans in this country might be irreparable. >> obama's support among hard-working americans, white americans, is weakening. >> maggie, is there a vulnerability there for hillary clinton? >> there were certainly bad moments for the clinton campaign in the '08 primary. i covered it. i covered a lot of what she said at the time. she has addressed some of that. she's also addressed things like the super predator line from the crime bill which they've talked about a lot. i think what we've seen with the trump campaign, patrick's right, that clinton has been making a
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variance of this charge for a while. she's doing two things. she's trying to make it essentially that the pivot trump has been attempting in the last week can't stick, which is what a lot of this is about. trump and his responses to clinton increasingly the last couple of weeks have basically been she levels a charge, he levels the exact same things back. there is a difference when you have, yes, trump has said the words "i disavow" about david duke. his campaign gets defensive whenever asked about it. they're trying toing is, whichever reporter raises this, is doing something change or weird. i don't think that trump has a huge chance at improving his appeal among black voters in the way that he's going about this. and perhaps we are wrong and we'll see. >> what about the community -- >> we'll be able to get back to this. thankfully we've got more time with you after this break. "out front" next, donald trump's doctor says that he wrote that glowing letter about donald trump's health in just five minutes. was it accurate? plus, trump's campaign
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chief, steve bannon, charges of battery and domestic violence in his past now surfacing. the report coming up. and maine's governor threatens a lawmaker. >> i would like to talk to you about your comments about my being a racist, you [ bleep ]. >> the man who got the call will be my guest tonight.
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soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. get back to great. sixteen gig lexar flash drives just three ninety-nine. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. this just in. donald trump's personal doctor for 35 years says that he wrote the letter proclaiming that trump was in excellent health in just five minutes as a limo driver waited for himself outside his office. he's speaking out to nbc news tonight. >> i thought about it all day,
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and at the end, i get rushed, and i get anxious when i get rushed. i tried to get things -- five minutes to write the letter while the driver waited for me. >> now this comes as donald trump and his supporters continue to question hillary clinton's own health. jim acosta is out front tonight. is this going to be an issue for trump, particularly in light of how aggressively he's gone after hillary clinton's health records? >> reporter: i think so. keep in mind, dr. borenstein has been donald trump's personal physician for some 35 years. he's again stating for the record that he believes the gop nominee is physically fit to be president of the united states. dr. borenstein has already released a letter on donald trump's health. we know that. we can put that up on screen. here's a clip. it says, "if elected, mr. trump, i can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. that's obviously a very strong
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statement from the doctor there. the doctor told nbc news that he wrote the letter in five minutes while a limousine sent by trump's office was waiting outside of dr. borenstein's office. that's that disschool closu-- d will raise questions about donald trump's physical fitness to be president of the united states. on top of that, as you mentioned, thank you very much and his surrogates have been airing their doubt about whether hillary clinton is physically fit to be president. they've been saying in recent days and including donald trump, he said it himself, doubting whether or not she has the physical and mental stamina to be president. this is something we'll be hearing about, donald trump's personal physician, dr. borenstein told nbc news that in his opinion, trump's health is "excellent," especially his mental health. so the doctor felt it was necessary to emphasize that he also believes that donald trump's mental health is also in excellent shape. obviously this is not the last
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we'll be hearing from dr. borenstein. there will be lots of other news outlets including this one, who will want to get this kind of comment from dr. borenstein on the record, as well. jim? >> jim acosta in las vegas. also tonight, other hard questions for the trump campaign. new revelation that's steve bannon, the new head of the campaign, was accused of domestic violence, auto -- keep in mind -- in 1996 by his then-wife. chris frates is out front with the report. the latest shakeup was designed to "let trump be trump." so to do that, he hired steven bannon, head of a right wing website called, as the campaign ceo. >> reporter: now the conservative news chief is drawing headlines of his own. bannon was charged with battery and domestic violence stemming from a 1996 incident involving his then-wife. according to documents obtained by cnn, an argument over money allegedly got physical after bannon's then-wife told him she
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wanted a divorce. the responding police officer wrote, "she appeared as if she was very upset and had been crying. i saw this her eyes were red and watery. she first said "oh, thank you, you are here." the police report went on to say that bannon grabbed her pie the neck and wrist pulling her down and leaving red marks where he grabbed her. the report said she fought back, got away from bannon, and dialed 911. neither the trump campaign nor a bannon spokeswoman commented. and bannon is among those who have drawn controversy. former campaign chairman paul manafort's lobbying ties to ukraine and russia and former manager cory lewandowski's rough treatment of a breitbart reporter drew unwanted scrutiny. and defending a decades' old rape accusation that ivana trump later walked back, attorney michael cohen argued, "of course, understand that by the very definition you can't rape your spouse." trump friended unofficial adviser roger ailes left fox news, the channel he founded, following allegations of sexual
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harassment. trump seem to invite controversy sometimes. just today news that the campaign hired bill steppan as its national field director. steppian of a top aide and campaign manager to chris christie who was fired after the bridgegate scandal, claiming political retribution. steppian of never charged in the federal investigation. this month, court documents revealed a text between christie's aides said the governor had flat-out lied about steppian not being involved in the lane closures. christie denied there was any truth to the text. shows just how long that controversy-longe -- controvers lingers, some two years. joining us, cnn political corrector. boris, the real question is about the pattern. you have past charges against steve bannon, his new campaign manager. you had lewandowski with what was described as a violent encounter with a female
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reporter. you have ailes, forced out of fox news. comes on as an informal adviser to the trump campaign. does this create a cloud around the trump campaign regarding treatment of women? >> let me set the record straight. roger ailes is not an informal adviser. it's not true. whoever's telling you that is not correct. >> he's not advising the campaign in -- the candidate in any way? >> not an informal adviser in the campaign. that's oly petrigrew, in none of the instances -- that's only one. in none of the instances was there a conviction. steve bannon's case was dismissed. he didn't mention that. that was not mentioned in the report. that's something key to mention. >> when you're on the air -- >> when you're talking about somebody. let me finish now. >> i will set the record straight when you're done. >> you're next. >> this was part of a divorce. mr. bannon is still close with his ex-wife. they get along fine. they have raised two college-aged children -- >> the two years came later. >> we're talking about this -- must be a slow friday. we're not talking about the fact
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that hillary clinton used bleach bit to wipe all her emails. we're not talking about the fact that she perjured herself in front of congress, not issues -- >> we have talked about. that but -- >> 20-year-old stories about campaign staffers, not the fact that -- hold on -- not the fact that the democrat candidate for president broke the law. that's what we should be talking about. >> tara, on the issue of relation with women and advisers around the trump campaign? >> the reason we're even talking about this is because donald trump continues to surround himself with people who are not competent, that have these sordid history. people think trump will surround himself with the best people. minus kellyanne conway who is phenomenal -- i'm talking now. are we going to start this now, boris? >> the computer -- >> the reason we're talking about this is because of donald trump. as far as the steve bannon case, the reason why the case was
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dismissed was because his ex-wife did not testify. the judge threw the case out. he allegedly, according to the divorce papers, she said that he told her and his attorney told her to get out of town. so that she wouldn't get served. >> this is from 20 years ago -- >> no, in the divorce papers. that she was told to leave town so she wouldn't get served and the case would go away. they got divorced later. if it was an abusive relationship, that kind of stuff goes on there. let's not act like it was dismissed because there was nothing there. >> i want to ask maggie a question. we can't entirely adjudicate this case tonight. to this issue of perception because trump has trouble with women voters. 67% of women is an unfavorable opinion of trump. hillary clinton has a 19-point lead among women voters. that in a presidential race. how does he win over voters? >> a couple of things. roger sails advising donald trump -- ailes is advising
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donald trump. that is reality. he was involved in a shakeup of the campaign. he's helped -- the times time first reported that. we can -- the "times" first reported that. we can reported that. that's reality. two, steve bannon is not running for president. cory lewandowski is not running for the. but most campaigns go to great pains to check in to the people who come to work for them and backgrounds. there have been three shakeups, and lots of people have come in -- >> manafort, not with women issue, but with -- >> correct. there were reports about his work in the ukraine. at a certain point it becomes a critical mass. i think trump's problem with women voters is his own words. that's what we've looked at. this does become a way that the clinton campaign can focus on it and say look at who he surrounds himself with. you're seeing that now. >> let tara respond. >> i want to give paris a chance, as well. >> this is ridiculous. this is a distraction. if the hillary clinton campaign wants to engage in this dirty politics, we can look no further than bill clinton and his issues with women. or look at anthony weiner who is
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someone with a lot of current issues with women and analyze that -- >> think i don't that's the issue -- >> let's to aep's talk about hu aberdeen -- >> that was an unfair attack. briefly, anthony weiner has no role in the clinton campaign. i want to step back. >> the chairman -- >> boris, come on. >> there's only one -- only one piece i want to lay out. i think it's indicative because we don't know what happened 20 years ago. i personally, like many others, don't tolerate domestic violence in any shape, form, or fashion. as maggie was saying, campaigns go to great lengths to vet the people who work with them. i think what's indicative of this hiring of steve bannon -- we know bannon is a racist. when you have someone who has this in their envelope of a resume who has this -- that goes along with them and brings more luggage to the table, when you already have a deficit with
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women, it proves not to be prudent or -- >> let's talk about the -- >> abadeen, deputy chairman -- >> i'm giving you a chance to respond -- >> anti-woman, 9/11 truther, anti-semitic and anti-gay. >> we have to go to break, steve bannon's a racist? how do you respond? >> the basis, that's what democrats are doing. they throw out these -- >> we'll have to hold those thought. >> our staffers and candidate -- >> we'll get back to some of these issues. "out front," next, donald trump's ever-changing immigration stance. is it hurting him with his own supporters? and new video of a man who drove a pickup directly into a passenger plane at a major u.s. airport. how could this happen? ♪ there's no one road out there. no one surface... no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all.
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tonight, mixed messages on immigration. donald trump sending out conflicting signals about whether or not he will deport 11
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million immigrants in the united states illegally. he was until he wasn't until he was again. still, moments ago, a defiant trump insthaftd hispanics -- insisted that hispanics are responding to his campaign. >> we've been doing very, very well with the latinos. we've been doing amazing. far greater, wouldn't you say, than anyone understands. and they want to see jobs come in. we're going to bring jobs. >> why is trump struggling to give a clear answer on what is his core issue? we're "out front" with the big number. >> reporter: donald trump's rapidly evolving position on immigration seems to have come full circle. >> there is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. >> reporter: trump is now ruling out a path way to legal status for the nation's undocumented immigrant. >> no, there's not a pass. there is no path to legalization.
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>> you talked about -- >> unless people leave the country -- well, when they come back in, if they come back in, then they can start paying taxes. >> reporter: a sharp departure from his comments made just two days ago. >> there certainly can be a softening because we're not looking to hurt people. >> reporter: tuesday, trump seemed open to providing legal status for undocumented immigrants who had not been viced of crimes. -- been convicted of crimes. >> no citizenship. let me go a step further -- they'll pay back taxes. they have to pay taxes. there's no amnesty as such. there's no amnesty. [ applause ] >> right. >> we work with them. >> reporter: he's walking that back now. >> i don't think it's a softening. i think -- >> 11 million people are no longer being to be departed. >> i've heard people say it's hardening. >> reporter: the gop is not clarifying how he would deal with those in the country illegally and whether he's sticking to his pledge during the primary to deport all undocumented immigrants from the u.s. >> we're going to see what happens, but there's a very good chance the answer could be yes, we're going to see what happens.
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before i do anything, i want to get rid of the bad ones. >> reporter: trump backer sarah palin says he risks losing support if he doesn't stand firm on his immigration stance. >> donald trump understands that enforcing the laws and building that wall are paramount to what the will of the people is, and thank god he's still preaching that. if he were not then there would be a huge erosion of support. >> as we wait for more clarity over what exactly is trump's immigration policy, there are some interesting comments from a former bush administration official. paul wolfowitz. he was president george w. bush's deputy secretary of defense. he says he has a lot of concerns about donald trump. he calls him so dangerous that he says he might be forced to cast his vote for hillary clinton instead. >> incredible. thank you very much. my panel back with me. patrick, i want to begin with you. sarah palin there saying maybe a huge erosion of support. does donald trump have a problem here? >> well, as long as he -- from
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his point of view keeps saying amnesty and i'm going to build a wall, that's like a safe zone for him. i mean, that's really where the -- the points that they keep trying to push. that conservatives will sort of accept maybe some, you know, sort of practical, you know, thinking that comes out, as long as he's saying those things. look o tuesday he was saying softening. on thursday, to anderson cooper, he's saying hardening. there's a real muddle here. it reminds me of hillary clinton's kind of tortured explanations around the emails that went on for a year. it's like finding your way. the things is that hillary figured out eventually -- trump has 11 weeks to kind of get a large number of undecided voters to come to -- >> i'm going to give you an opportunity, boris. you advise the campaign. what is trump's position? deport the 11 million or not deport? >> the position is multilayer. first, all those illegal immigrants who have committed crimes in this country are deported. >> that's not all the 11 million. which was his original position.
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>> two -- and that's what happened in san francisco. we prevent that. 300,000 illegal immigrants, criminals allowed to stay in this country under president obama. >> focus on the criminals. let's be frank, that's a tiny percentage. i want to know, he said definitively they're going to go. then he said they aren't. then he said again -- >> as to illegal immigrants who are not criminals which will be deported, those will be dealt with according to the laws on the box now. additional laws, the constitution. and humanely. donald trump has been consistent. we've done the comparison -- >> we don't have much time. i want to give tara a chance to respond on that issue. you say he's been clear throughout. the fact is even his own supporters say he hasn't been clear. >> he's not been very clear on this. that's why we've seen the flip-flops back and forth for days. that's why the immigration speech was postponed. he polled the audience, for goodness sakes, when he was on "hannity" the other day. should we kick him out? he's all over the place on this, clearly.
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donald trump from the beginning said they all have to go. he ran on this issue. this is what put him above the rest during the primary season. separated him from other people. now -- now he's actually so desperate that he's citing the obama administration figures about deportation which aren't even accurate. so he is -- >> the problem with his base, the problem with the base is if he's saying we're going to enforce the laws on the books, that's what -- >> that's what obama is doing. same things -- >> there's a chance -- >> give paris a chance to respond. can you clear it up? can you clear up what the position is? >> it's very clear. mr. trump is consistent as it relates to his position on illegal immigration. >> not on deportation? >> the fundamentals are there. we've got to build the wall, fix a broken system. that is tied to jobs and the economy. the issue that a lot of people responded to with donald trump was not necessarily about immigration. it was about the jobs and bringing jobs back to this country which is tied to immigration. so -- >> the point, in the primaries, anyone who said anything, cruise, rubio, bush, about
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anything short of kicking them out, he called them a weakling. >> i think that's correct. the accurate term now is a mess of public policy on the big stage, something we don't see a lot, especially when it is why you got elected to be -- it was the number-one issue in exit polls throughout the country. every time we had exit polls, the number-one reason that people came out to vote and voted for donald trump in large numbers -- >> it was immigration. >> it was immigration. what we're seeing now is -- although boris laid out what we believe to be his immigration policy, although that's not necessarily what he said last night, what he did was he called amnesty by another name. that's exactly what it is. and i'm going to channel my inner rush limbaugh. i heard rush i believe it was yesterday morning. rush said it is amazing to him that first they started with the gang of eight. and then they tried jeb bush. and the person to bring amnesty to the base of the republican party -- >> rush limbaugh laughed when he brought that point up. >> i quoted rush limbaugh. >> you heard sarah palin tee
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that up. she warns of an erosion of support. it's too early to see it in the numbers. is that a risk here? if not to have them vote, say, for hillary clinton, maybe not to show up at the polls? >> it is certainly a risk when you have people like sarah palin, when you have people, ann coulter initially was on twitter saying, well, maybe it's not that bad. she said she's not leaving him. you is had people who are immigration hard-liners such as congressman steve king of iowa who recently endorsed trump. he had been a cruz person, say he think this could be problematic. and another hard-liner essentially said bluntly he thinks trump blew the election. i think that's an overstatement. i think a lot of trump supporters are with him. they're not going to leave him. and they hear, you know, the side of what he says that they like, and they stick with that. i think the problem is that, again, we are spending a third or fourth night trying to decipher where he is on a really key policy issue that -- that the country has tried to deal with for something like 12, 14 years now. and he's not giving a speech next week, as it turns out. they've cancelled it again.
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but at the same time, if you think about the week -- this is what makes republicans who would like to win the white house back who don't back trump very upset, think about the week hillary clinton could be having. >> right. >> there could be a lot of focus on the emails. there could be a lot of focus on an important question that anderson cooper asked her which was -- and there's still not a clear response to this, as to, you know, if -- if the foundation needs to be sort of wrapped up in a certain way, if she becomes with the, why wasn't it the case when she was secretary of state. and that is not the focus in part because of this. >> i'd love to talk about that. >> lost opportunity. >> i'd love to talk about if that -- >> i think he got the chance to talk about the clinton foundation and say we should give them benefit of the doubt. the question is, does he want to win -- >> we have to leave it there. folks, thank you. we covered a lot in a short time. appreciate it. next, maine's governor challenges one of his lawmakers to a duel. that lawmaker is out front tonight. and breaking news, new video from a security breach at a u.s. airport as a man rams a truck into a passenger plane about to take off.
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tonight maine's governor under fire after leaving an expletive-laced and threatening voicemail for a state lawmaker. phil mattingly out front with more on this story. we want to warn you, some of the language is clearly inappropriate. i would like to talk to you about your comment it my being a racist, you [ bleep ]. >> reporter: that's maine governor paul lepage, his target, a state lawmaker lepage thought had called him racist. the governor did not hold back. >> i want you to brief that i'm a racist. i spent my life helping black people, and you little [ bleep ] socialist [ bleep ]. i need you to -- i want you to record this and make it public because i'm after you. thank you. point and in a page right out of the 19th century, the governor
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later challenges him to a duel. >> that's how angry i am. and i bet -- i would put my gun in the air, guarantee you. i would not be hamilton. i'd point it right between his eyes. >> reporter: lepage is no stranger to controversy. >> i was donald trump before donald trump became popular. >> reporter: something he himself acknowledged in his endorsement of donald trump earlier this year. the parallels if further. an outsider riling up the establishment. a fighter willing to go to the mat with political foes. lepage's daughter even works for trump's campaign. and yes, he's a politician with a history of not-so politically correct comments. from strong words to president obama -- >> as your governor, you're going to be seeing a lot of me on the front page saying, governor lepage tells obama to go hell. >> reporter: to punctuating a
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dispute with the naacp like this -- >> tell them to kiss my butt. >> reporter: and recently on the father of a muslim american soldier killed in action in iraq. >> then there's the mighty powerful ones like mr. khan which is a con artist himself. and he uses the death of his son, who's an american soldier, which we respect and honor. he uses that to go after trump which i found very distasteful. >> reporter: it's comments related to the state's heroin crisis that have followed lepage for months. >> these are guys that are named dmone, smoothie, shifty, these type of guys from connecticut and new york. they come up here. they sell their heroin, then they go back home. incidentally, half the time they impregnate a young, white girl before they leave. which is a real sad things because then we have another issue that we've got to deal with down the road. >> reporter: jim, the governor's office put out a lengthy
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statement later today apologizing to the maine people for the language in the voicemail, but not the voicemail itself. as for the duel, the statement made clear -- it was just a metaphor. he didn't actually think dueling was still legal. >> he did talk about pointing his gun at a has head. thank you very much. the man who received the voicemail, democratic state representative drew giti no, ne. the governor called you a lot of things i cannot repeat on the air, multiple times. what's your response? >> well, it was pretty shocking to get that voicemail yesterday. i have never received a voicemail like that before. and it's -- you know, this is a governor, as you pointed out, who continues to cross the line. and every time you think he's crossed a line, you think he can't go any further, he draws another line and crosses it. this is a pattern of behavior with this governor, and i think it's unfortunate.
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the maine people deserve a lot better from their governor. and from the leader of our state. >> has he spoken to you since then? has he pulled any of this pack, at least apologized for some of the vitriol in that call? >> no. he hasn't pulled anything back. you know, any comments that he has made to me. that's not his style. this is a governor that likes to double down. it doesn't surprise me that, you know, he hasn't pulled back the statements. and i don't really expect him to. >> now, he says he made the call because -- he says that called him a racist or a reporter told him that you called him a racist. did you accuse him of being a racist? >> no. i -- i'm not aname caname-- a name-calle. i said the racist comment are
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not going to help with us the serious problems we have in maine. we need to focus on prevention. we need to focus on treatment. we're not spending enough to treat people who are extremely ill with substance disorder, and we need to support law enforcement. the governor seems to want to continue to make this a conversation about race. and seems obsessed and fixated with the race of people who are importing drugs in our state. and yofng that kind of conversation is going to help solve the problem. that's what i said yesterday, and that's what i believe today. >> what is the difference between accusing the governor of being a racist and of uttering racially charged comments? >> i think there's a big difference. you know -- calling somebody a racist is one of the worst things you can ever call somebody. and it's not something that i've ever called anybody, frankly. and again, i'm not going to engage in name-calli d-calling governor. i think it was wrong for the governor to interject every time we talk it this issue, issues
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about race. i think the issue and the problem we need to solve is about the fact that we're not investing enough in treatment. people who need treatment can't get it here in maine. this governor's policies are making it much more difficult for them to get treatment. and that's why i think we need to focus our attention. >> drew gatti no, sir, democratic legislator from maine, thanks for joining us. >> thank you very much for having me on. "out front" next, just in, new video. a man gets past security, rams his pickup truck to a passenger plane at a major u.s. airport. that's next. ♪
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tonight, a frightening scene at omaha's main airport, after a man jumped a security fence and rammed a truck into a passenger plane full of passengers on the tarmac. we now have new video of the man behind this major security breach. that is him there. kyung lah is outfront. >> we looked over to the left side of the plane and there was this truck, you know, like ramming into the plane next to us. >> reporter: stunned, omaha, nebraska, passengers captured the moment a truck slamming into
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the nose of a southwest plane. [ screaming ] >> the driver here on this gurney was erratic, screaming and wearing only his boxer shorts. >> we just got a report of a person possibly jumping the fence over at the airport. >> reporter: airport radio tower traffic caught the moments before the crash. officers were chasing after 35-year-old delrio kuntz in an outside parking garage outside the omaha airport's perimeter. >> the suspect at some point in the garage removed his pants. >> reporter: and then climbed over a 8-foot fence topped with eight strands of bashed wire. police say kuntz found a white pickup truck, engine running. >> apparently, somebody jumped in a truck on the runway. >> he ran into a southwest 737 just in front of the tower. >> i think he was trying to get away from the officers. every time the officers were approaching, he tried to elude them. >> this incident, says aviation
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experts, is an example of a larger aviation security problem. >> the backside of our airports are generally not secure enough. that is a fact. we need to really think about enhancing the perimeter of security, 360 degrees around the airplanes. >> a report released this year looked at tsa security breaches from 2009 through 2015. it says on average, u.s. airports had 2,500 breaches every year. some involving perimeter and airport access points. and those security breaches are trending upward. there are numerous examples. april 2014. that's a 15-year-old jumping out of a plane's wheel well in maui. the teenage stowaway snuck into the wheel well in san jose, making it to hawaii undetected. philadelphia, march, 2012. police are chasing a jeep that broke through a chain link fence and drove on to several runways, forcing planes to circle the
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area. >> now, the tsa says it has taken a number of concrete steps to enhance airport security, nationwide, and it has updated its national guidelines. as far as this case, the omaha airport case, we did find out, from the police department, that that suspect, jim, did, indeed, test positive for methamphetamine use. jim? >> kyung lah in l.a. and we'll be right back. (announcer vo) who says your desk phone always has to be at your desk? now, with one talk from verizon... hi, pete. i'm glad you called. (announcer vo) all your phones can work together on one number. you can move calls between phones, so conversations can go where you go. take your time. i'm not going anywhere. (announcer vo) and when you're not available, one talk helps find the right person who is. hi, john. (announcer vo) so wherever work takes you, you can put your customers first. introducing one talk-- another way verizon connects your business better. learn how at whmade plastics that tmake them lighter?rs the lubricants that improved fuel economy.
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thanks for joining us. i'm jim sciutto. it's been nice being here this week with you. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us tonight. the doctor who wrote that donald trump would be, quote, the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency is breaking his silence, talking about how his now famous and trumpy sounding letter came to be. and another red flag for some women voters centers on trump's new campaign ceo and past domestic violence allegations. details now from cnn's chris frates. >> very good. >> reporter: trump's new campaign chief, steve bannon, is already drawing democratic fire. >> the latest shake up was designed to, quote, let trump be trump. so the to do that, he hired stephen bannon. the head of a right-wing website called, as the campaign's ceo. >> but now