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he has supporters like david duke connected with the ku klux klan. >> do you want white supremacists to vote for you? >> no, i don't. >> ku klux klan values, david duke values, donald trump are not american values. whoever committed this act, i pray for that person. >> rodney earl sanders charged with two counts of murder in connection with the death of two nuns. >> they live their lives to make the world better for people who have nothing. at least ten water rescues occurred overnight in kansas city as a flash flood emergency
was issued for the metro region. good morning, we're so grateful to have your company as always, happy saturday, i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. we're starting with the arrests this morning as what mississippi authorities describe as a heinous crime, two nuns stabbed to death in their homes. police say this man, rodney harrison broke into the house and killed them. authorities are trying to figure out why that happened. they were serving one of the state's poorest countries. when they didn't show up for work, their co-workers called police. their car was left abandoned more than a mile away from their home. friends and family say they're going to remember these two as outgoing and compassionate. >> it's sad, my aunt and sister
margaret, they lived their lives to try to make the world better for the people who have nothing. >> now, a wake is going to be held tomorrow for sister held and sister merril. and a memorial mass is for sunday as well. >> a national day of mourning meanwhile in central italy just days after this earthquake hit that area. >> right now, funerals for dozens of victims. italy's prime minister and president expected to attend services for just 40 victims. just today, the death toll now 290. >> the depth of devastation was sinking in as the critical window to find more survives alive passes. here's what we're dealing with. hundreds of aftershocks. you can imagine how that's hampering the ongoing recovery efforts here. 2100 people are living in make shift tents right now.
we'll continue to follow this throughout the day. let's turn to the flash flooding that has put kansas city, missouri, there under water. we've got the pictures. let's show you the pictures here what people are dealing with. the national weather service calling this extremely dangerous and life-threatening situation here. and when you look at the video, you can understand why it's getting that classification. the roads obviously impassible. you see the roofs of some vehicles here, anyone who tried to drive through it, they watched their cars sink through. ch crews have been working around the clock to rescue people trapped by those floods. to make matters worse, much of the power is out. >> they go into the cars they wade into the water with flashlights looking in to make sure nobody is inside. this flash flood is part of a severe water system that brought tornado and hail. for residents reporting downed tree limbs and branches in the streets.
no sign of any damage to buildings, and so far, we're told that no one is hurt. again, when you take a look at those pictures, you have to feel for those people there and what they're dealing with this morning. tim kaine is launching a bold new line of attack against donald trump linking the gop nominee to the values of the kkk, watch. hey, good morning, victor and christi, donald trump advisers always seem to invite a little controversy. this time, trump's campaign chief is in the headlines. >> reporter: trump's campaign chief steve bannon is drawing fire. >> latest shake-up was designed to, quote, let trump be trump. to do that, he hired steven bannon the head of a right wing website called breitbart.com. >> reporter: now bannon was
charged with domestic violence stemming from a 1996 incident involving his then wife. according to documents obtained by cnn an argument over money allegedly got physical an bannon's then wife said she wanted a divorce. it wrote she appeared as if she was upset and had been crying. i saw her eyes were red and watery. she first said, oh, thank you, you are here. the report says she fought back, got away from bannon and dialed 911. neither a trump campaign spokesperson or bannon returned a call for comment. and with the corey lewandowski and the defending rape accusations, and the trump
attorney michael cohen argued, quote, of course, understand by the very definition, you can't rape your spouse. trump friend and unofficial adviser roger ailes left fox news that he founded following allegations of sexual harassment. i asked trump's campaign manager kellyanne conway if this could affect the trump campaign, she gave me a definitive answer, no. and that was it. and when asked if trump knew about the domestic case against bannon, he said, quote, i don't know what he was aware of a 20-year claim when the charges were dropped. >> let's bring in cnn our political commentator, and scotty nell hughes and a. scott
bolden. good morning. >> good morning, victor. >> after the speech from hillary clinton thursday, we heard this last night from her running mate tim kaine about donald trump and his values. >> he has supporters like david duke connected with the ku klux klan going around saying donald trump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan value, david duke values, donald trump are not american values. they're not our values, and we've got to do all we can to fight, to push back and in. all right. donald trump is pushing their values, ku klux klan values. david duke values. i want you, scott, to listen to what tim kaine said in his first joint interview after joining the ticket about the rhetoric of this campaign. let's watch that from "60 minutes." >> when i see this crooked hillary or lock her up, it's
ridiculo ridiculous. it is ridiculous. it's beneath the kind of character of dialogue we should have. and most of us stopped the name calling thing about the fifth grade. >> he was there criticizing donald trump. do his comments last night meet his own standards, scott? >> i think so, because there wasn't any name calling. and remember, i don't like the rhetoric about bigotry and back and forth. donald trump is a dangerous candidate, not because of innuendo or conjecture but because of who he has surrounded himself with the ceo of breitbart, because of statements that are offensive to muslims, mex anicans and african-america. i think that's fair game, especially since he's unfit. and he doesn't have the temperament. 70% of americans believe he's a racist and a bigot.
you can't run from both numbers. you can't win the presidency with those numbers. >> scottie. >> well, what's bad about all of this, we've had the race card on this. is this a horrendous week for hillary clinton starting off with where donald trump showed leadership going down to louisiana and helping them on the ground. while she's doing fund-raisers in maine and barack obama playing golf. that's how the week got started off. and the fbi e-mails. none of that we're talking about right now because she gave the speech and introduced the emotion of rape into it. >> had donald trump not introduced that before, especially with the judge saying that he's a mexican, although an american of mexican heritage, that he could not be objective. had donald trump not introduced race months ago? >> if you don't think it's obviously to distract what's going on.
now that she's opened up pandora's box. let's talk about pandora's balk, the grand dragon, kkk, will craig endorsing hillary clinton going to rallies. talking about why he supports. and 2010 saying he was noble and her mentor. >> scottie, i hear you here, let me ask you about this, scottie. i don't mean to cut you off. we'll have you here throughout the morning but i've got to get this number in, because it's not just what we're hearing from the clinton campaign and clinton and kaine, voters in the quinnipiac poll on thursday, 59% polled said they agree the way donald trump talks appeals to bigotry. this is not something that is created by the clinton campaign, is this not a real problem with voters, with what donald trump says at least? >> it's not just donald trump, this is a broken record of the
democrats. they do this every election cycle. they paint republicans as being racists. at this time in 2012, mitt romney was polling zero with the african-american community and being termed a race the. george w. bush say racist. this is what they do. it works because it pulls to the emotion. if you think that it workforce the communities, obviously when you're looking at more people now on food stamps. less home ownership within the african-american communities, there's a problem. why don't they look for a solution to be pandering which is exactly what she's doing. >> scott, let me come to you, after the clinton speech on thursday, there was no huge rush of republican lawmakers of conservatives not committed to the campaign, to defend donald trump against this. but after these comments by tim kaine we are seeing that. has senator kaine stepped on the clinton message? >> no, i don't think so at all.
listen, those 60% of the voters are -- those 60% of the voters are not getting these racist and support of bigotry from anyone but donald trump. he has brought this on himself. because if you look at the citation information the report in his own words, he's bringing it on himself. what's more telling is, is that after he's been accused of all of these things, not one republican leader has tweeted or come out to defend him. the report in "the washington post" that raised that question. so, now, i don't think tim kaine is stepping on the message. he's carrying forth the message that hillary clinton laid out a couple days ago that is, again, documented, it had citations and reports. and used donald trump's own words against him. and republicans going forward against him. and we're going to -- >> can i get -- >> hold on, hold on. >> without the teleprompter he --
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get involved because it's such a problem nowadays and we're trying to get solutions. but you're not seeing any democrats step up to defend hillary clinton on the bigot either. it has a large connotation with race, it doesn't just have to do with race, guys. it has to do with someone who is small minded and draws hate from a group. whether you agree with it or not, hillary clinton's speech is very bigoted towards conservatives, right wing, tea partiers. but you don't have team standing up and saying, hey, she's not a bigot among the republican party. >> the week started with clinton facing scrutiny over her e-mails. with the state department speech. she changed the narrative connecting donald trump to
conservative group, the alt-right. let's go to brian stelter to give us details. >> reporter: while donald trump says he's seeking minority voter. >> i think we're going to do great with african-americans and hispanics -- >> reporter: hillary clinton is trying to draw trump to alt-right. >> propelling the term alt-right into the national spotlight. >> explain to us what alt-right is. >> reporter: the answer depends on who you ask. >> it's just a dressed up version of the american neo-nazi movement. >> reporter: breitbart.com, the website shared by steve bannon has proudly led the charge. last month, bannon told mother jones, we're the plat for the alt-right. clinton is seizing on the connection, calling the alt-right disturbing and extreme. so what is it, exactly?
>> it's a home, a place where we can be with people like ourselves. >> reporter: video blogger says the movement which started online several years ago is about ethnic nationalism. race that is under assault fuels the alt-right which stands opposed to both progressive and mainstream conservative thought. supporters say they're not racist or divisive but that's what critics charge. >> i spent 20 years trying to say conservatives are not racists. we're not misogya soggenists. >> reporter: trump is a favorite of the mostly young mostly white men who identify as alt-right. >> we cannot afford to be so politically correct anymore. >> reporter: nativism and even racial separatism are themes of alt-right websites that embrace
trump. but some of the loudest adherents say they're just being provocative. milo has been the face of the media with stunts though he's now been banned from twitter. >> he represents the best hope we have. breaking taboos, allowing real debate to be had again. >> scott, let me come to you. before we ran that package, scottie brought up a point. and i'll put it to you, is it fair to make donald trump, or hold him responsible, for the views of the alt-right, considering he says he doesn't want the votes of white supremacists, white nationalists. is it fair to hold him accountable for all of their views? >> well, of course, it is. because he feeds that narrative. it's one thing for them to say i don't want the white nationalists or the ku klux klan
vote even though david duke and the alt-right are big supporters of his, they are because he feeds that narrative. and he's not afraid because that expands or rather energizes his base. you can't have it both bways. and say i'm part of the nazi party and then feed the policy of immigration on building a wall on the religious test for muslims. on african-americans being unemployed and poor and being shot in their communities. this all feeds that negative narrative. and then you combine the breitbart with his campaign, you defend it and say, listen, i want to expand my base. you're not going to expand your base, you energize it. and there's not enough of that base to get him to the political end zone of the presidency. he's only got 70 days left. he's run out of time. he's dug himself a hole. but he's going to have to live
with breitbart and the neo-nazi conservative issues that he's into their narrative. he denies that. >> scottie, if donald trump brings in steve bannon to be the ceo of his campaign, a man who ran breitbart, breitbart claimed proudly to be the platform of the alt-right, does he not deserve all of the criticism that comes, if you choose steve bannon to run your campaign? >> exactly. >> i honestly know steve bannon and breitbart. it's a popular website. >> popular not meaning it's ethical or right. just to claim numbers doesn't mean much, does it? >> i'm telling you the numbers on it to come out and claim the whole group is neo-nazi and
racist. that's like wee turning around calling the alternate left that they are bombers. none of that. and that's not fair to do. >> hold on, scott. >> may i remind you, where i said the grand dragon of the kkk in california is endorsing hillary clinton. she has more of an outspoken support from the kkk than donald trump. whether you don't want to hear it -- >> that's ridiculous. >> it's true. you've got robert bair who is using the "n" word on interviews with tony snow in 2001 repeatedly saying it. and on e-mails making fun of an african-american woman's name. these are staffers. >> scottie, e-mail whatever your claim is about the grand dragon of the kkk.
i'd push back against it if i had more details. i simply don't know. i don't know that the grand dragon of the kkk is endorsing anybody. give me that name and details. >> scott, you've got 15 seconds. >> the whole idea of hillary clinton being a bigot, she's walk the wall with diversity advocating for african-americans and children and women historically. so she really doesn't need to be defended by democrats and i've never heard of this grand dragon endorsing her, if he has, that's ironic, because trump has driven it that way. >> every time we've had -- >> you can't do both at the same time. >> hillary clinton is not a bigot that's why that claim by him falls to a thud, if you will. he is the height of pronouncement. he just makes he's pronouncements because he's narcissistic about it, he wants you to believe it because he believes it. he can't get it done.
he doesn't even know how to sustain bigotry or talk to people of color. this is ridiculous. >> i'll be looking for the details. >> send it to me, too, by the way. >> thank you, both. all right. listen, we want to talk about the cousin of an nba superstar was killed in chicago overnight. and we've been talking about what's happening in chicago for months now. but this really hitting home for one mr. dwyane wade. >> yes, it's a heartbreaking story. chicago bulls star dwyane wade's cousin shot and killed while she was pushing her baby in a stroller. we'll have the latest on that investigation next. and i didn't get here alone. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and through it all, my retirement never got left behind. so today, i'm prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be.
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the violence we've been talking about for so many months in chicago has hit home this morning for the nba star dwyane wade, the cousin was shot and killed just walking. >> yes, she was, 32-year-old nyk nykia aldridge was pushing her baby in a stroller at a school where she was simply registering her children. the mother of four was pronounced dead at the hospital. the baby was not hurt. just last month, dwyane wade joined chris paul, carmelo anthony at the espys where they pleaded for an end to racial profiles and gun violence. on thursday, wade took part in an espn roundtable on violence in chicago. wade shared his heartbreak
tweeting my cousin was killed today in chicago. another act of sensele gun violence. four kids lost their mom for no reason. unreal. enough is enough. her mother spoke about the straddy. >> just sat on a panel yesterday, talking about the violence that's going none our city of chicago, never knowing that the next day we would be the ones that would be the ones actually living and experiencing it. >> investigators say a littldri was not the intended target in the shooting. police are questioning two people. >> that's the problem. >> they were in the movement. nothing to do with the family. >> yeah. turning back to politics, this week, we've seen and we've discussed it, it's an especially rough politics between the trump
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into a house in lexington, killed them and authorities are still trying to decipher why. margaret held and paula merril, here they are. police may the discovery when they didn't show up for work on thursday. we know there will be a wake tomorrow for both sister held and sister merril. and a mass is scheduled for monday. so, you think this political seen is getting out of hand, one of the nastiest presidential campaigns in recent memory. some say it's reaching a new low. the candidates spent this week debating who is the bigger bigot. >> that's where we are, folks. and now clinton's running mate tim kaine said trump pushes ku
klux klan values. >> reporter: gross hypocrite. godless atheist, who said it, trump or clinton clinton? well, neither. it was associates of thomas jefferson and john adams. >> a man you can date with a tweet. >> lying crooked hillary. >> reporter: the fact is all this name calling and dirty campaign is nothing new. take the election of 1828. john quincy adams versus andrew jackson in another political brouhaha. adam takes in jackson asserting that jackson didn't know how to spell was too uneducated to become president. while newspapers portrayed his wife april as a short fat dumpling. >> and adams shot back. and another political slugfest. this time, abraham lincoln and steven douglas.
douglas accusing of hypocrisy claiming that lincoln himself once operated a grocery store serving hard liquor, causing quite a stir. lincoln's reply, if that was the case, surely douglas was his best customer. and theodore roosevelt called taft a fathead. and taft in behind causing roosevelt followers neurotics. and moderates have seen their fair share, too. 1972, senator edward muskie of maine, then a front-runner for the democratic nomination that is until the conservative manchester newspaper ran two pieces, one accusing muskie of moving racial slurs. the second implying that muskie's wife enjoyed drinking and cursing in an unlady-like way. >> by attacking me, by attacking my wife has proved himself to be
a gutless coward. >> reporter: it's also reported that muskie broke down and cried sending a message that he couldn't handle the heat and sending his campaign into a tailspin. in 1988, george w. bush let lose onmichael dukakis. saying he couldn't support the military and stating that dukakis thought a naval exercise is something you'd find in john fonda's exercise books. and his daughter bridget was actually adopted from bangladesh, but the false rumor had its intended effect, stalling the campaign's momentum. and bush, of course, went on to win. another example of even though it's ugly -- >> hillary clinton is a bigot. >> this is someone who retweets white supremacists online.
>> reporter: it can work. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. all right. we've got some stories we want to share with you on the other side of the break. the stories of survival. and they are emerging now from the rubble in italy. cnn travels to a hospital near the epicenter of this week's deadly quake. wait till you hear this. stay close.
>> the death toll finally sinking in here. hundreds standing by to recover some of these folks. we know 2100 people are living, as you see there, in these makeshift tents right now. >> cnn's fred pleitgen joins us from one of the most devastated towns there. fred, show us what you're seeing there, and tell us what you've learned. >> reporter: well, victor, i mean, the devastation here is just absolutely stunning. we're in amatrice, you were just saying that the updated death toll is now 290. of 230 of those known to be killed were right near amatrice. i can tell you that the search and rescue efforts are still very much ongoing by the italian authorities. they do have a large team on the ground here. they have search dogs. they also have some heavy equipment as well to try to help them pry people out of the rubble if indeed they find any. the problem is, they really haven't found any survivors in
the past day or so. there were some people pulled out alive in the rubble in the first hours after the quake, first day and a half, maybe after the quake, now it's become very few and very far between. they are, of course, pulling dead bodies from the rubble. it's something that has devastated this community. you see the folks that live here, virtually every single family in this town is affected by the quake. they've had some family member either injure order killed in this. then you have the other big problem which means you still have aftershocks here in the region. and one of those aftershocks has caused a building that has already damaged to collapse. of course, it makes it difficult for the rescue crews to continue their work, because every time there's an aftershock, they need to evacuate immediately because of the rubble shift, and there's a danger of rescuers getting buried underneath. the italians are doing very good job coming to terms with it, but of course, a devastating event touching everybody in these
communities here, victor. >> no doubt. the president and prime minister attending that state funeral for 35 of the 290 victims. fred pleitgen in amatrice, thank you so much. amidst the stories coming out of italy, there are stories of survival. and we've got some of those for you from cnn's atika shubert. she went to a hospital near the epicenter. shea here's what she learned. >> reporter: a little girl plucked from the rubble alive. rescued 17 hours after the earthquake. many of the victims here were children. enjoying their summer holidays with their families. 4-year-old georgia rinaldi, survived because her older sister julia shielded her from the rubble, sacrificing her own life for her baby sister. this is the hospital where that little girl pulled out of the rubble was brought to for treatment.
99 of those injured were brought here. this is where family members wait for word of their loved ones, still living the trauma of their ordeal. here, georgia's father is coming to terms with the loss of one daughter and the survival of the other. he told doctors he was not yet ready to speak to media. but others talk to try to make sense of the destruction. giuseppe was lying in bed with his wife domenica when the earthquake struck. now, he's waiting for her to come out of a lengthy surgery. for us, it's the end, he told us. it's a house with so many memories, so much life, we're finished. we're scared. we saw death, we felt it, my wife -- and then he breaks down in tears. he said we prayed. the madonna wanted to save us. this 19-year-old was sleeping on the top floor of his family's summer house. his mother in the room next door
when the house collapsed. >> my first thought was my mother. my mother is here, but i can't help her. >> reporter: he was buried in rubble. it took an hour for his uncle to find him and dig him out with his bare hands. >> when i came out, i kissed him, and i said to him that he was my life. and but, my thought, i still love my mother, because she passed away. she gone. she gone now. >> reporter: he survived, but hairline fractures to several vertebrae. his greatest pain is the loss of his mother. >> i am like this because my mother teach me to be a person like this.
>> reporter: be strong. >> be strong, yes. >> reporter: given new life, survivors of italy's devastating earthquake are healing slowly. atika shubert, cnn, italy. >> i know we watch those things and so often we want to do something. well, we want to help you do that. go to cnn.com slash impac daucn. there are resources there on how you can indeed help. for more buffalo cauliflower. (mind-blowing sound) everybody's a veggie lover now. what do you think? (mind-blowing sound) mind blown. bird's eye flavor full. so veggie good. seconds can mean the difference between life and death. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps
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coming up on 8 minutes to the top of the hour now, let's turn to maine. and the governor of that state under fire now for leaving a seemingly threatening voice mail filled with profanity for a state representative. >> he did paul ajeez, but he justified his reaction saying that he was called a racist. phil mattingly is looking into this. >> victor and christi, there's a pretty good chance that governors and state governors, they trade voice mails regularly, right? it's part of the process. but what happens when you're in maine, a particularly volatile governor is upset with something he said. get this. >> i would like to talk to you about your comments about me being a facist you [ bleep ]. >> reporter: that's maine governor paul lepage. his argument, drew bakeen.
the governor did not hold back. i want you to prove i'm a racist, i send my life helping black people and you little [ bleep ] socialist [ bleep ] i need you to just -- i want you to record this and make it public because i'm after you. thank you. >> reporter: in a page right out of the 19th century, the governor later challenges ka teen to a duel. >> that's thousahow angry i am. i'd point it right between his eyes. >> reporter: lepage is not stranger to controversy. >> i was trudonald trump trump, before donald trump became popular. >> reporter: something he endorsed earlier this year. the parallels go farther. an outsider, a fighter.
going to the mat with political foes and lepage's daughter even works with the campaign. and yes, he's had a history of not so good comments. on obama president. >> you're going to seeing governor lepage is going to be -- >> reporter: punctuating a dispute with the naacp like this. >> tell them to kiss my butt. >> reporter: and recently on the father of a muslim american soldier killed in action in iraq. >> then the mighty and powerful ones like mr. khan, mr. con artist himself, and uses the death of his son, an american soldier which we respect and honor and he uses that to go after trump which i found that very distasteful. >> reporter: but it's comments about the heroin crisis that have followed lepage for months.
>> these guys that come from connecticut, new york, they come up here, they sell their here win and go back home. incidentally they impregnant a young girl before they leave. >> and it goes back to those comments made in january called racially charged at the time by democrats. and they're comments that lepage doubled down on in a town hall on wednesday. that's really how all of this started. no, lepage followed up with a lengthy statement from his office where he apologized to the people of maine for the language he used in the voice mail. but what he didn't apologize for is the threat of the duel or anything else related to the state lawmaker. in fact, he kind of doubled down on that. saying he would do everything possible to stop him from going
forward politically. victor and christi. >> we thought it was just the main presidential election. >> we will watch that one. all right. investigators are deciding this is a heinous crime. >> now, we're learning more about these two women. the nuns who were killed. and we're learning more about the man police say is responsible. [ fly buzzing ] did you know people can save over $500 when they switch to progressive? i got your nose! i got your nose right here. i know that's your thumb, grandpa. talent! learn about it! ♪ (vo) making the most out of every mile. that's why i got a subaru impreza. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get zero percent on select subaru models during the
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values are not american values. whoever committed this evil act, i pray for that person. >> rodney earl sanders charged with two counts of murder in connection with the deaths of two nuns. >> they lived their lives to try to make the world better for the people who have nothing. at least ten water rescues occurred overnight in kansas city, as a flash flood emergency was issued for the metro region. >> so grateful to have you on this saturday. i'm christi paul. >> good morning to you, i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm going to tell you about an arrest we're learning about in what mississippi authorities describe as a heinous crime. two nuns stabbed to death in their home. >> police say this is the man responsible. rodney earl sanders. they say he broke into their house in lexington and killed them. margaret held and paula merrill
workeded as practitioners serving the poorest communities. >> are police revealing how it was they were led to him? >> at least not quite yet. >> it's interesting we don't know a whole lot of who this individual is. we know he was arrested, as they continue to piece this case together. what we do know, a 46-year-old man identified as investigators as rodney earl sanders who was arrested and charged with capital murders, investigators believe he broke into the home of these two sisters two nuns, who you mentioned served the community and provided needs for those in the poorest counties. and they were found in their home when police officers showed up at the home and found signs of forced entry. eventually, though, their bodies found inside their home. the question here, what is the motive? no information has been released
on any possible link between sanders and these two sisters. officials at the mississippi bureau of investigation have only said he was a person of interest early in the investigation, christi and victor. what's interesting here, this community, now coming together in prayer, not just for the families of these two women, but the suspect himself. i think what it does is speak to the sense of community and unity in what say very small community. again, investigators have not released a whole lot of information yet. they did recover the vehicles of one of the victims but they're calling this a robbery short of that yet. >> thank you. let's turn to kansas city, missouri, the metro area there, under water. look at this. people are struggling to deal with this. the national weather service calling this extremely dangerous. life-threatening situation. you understand why. look at the cars here. just the roofs of this one.
roads impassible although people tried and they found themselves in situations like this. high waters there and some people having to be rescued. >> emergency crews. you see them here, working around the clock. the rescue people trapped by the floods and you see what some of that takes wading into that waist deep or more water, looking in vehicles to make sure nobody is trapped there. and the power is out which only makes things worse for those folks. the flash flooding is part of a severe weather system that brought down tornadoes and residents reporting tree branches in the streets. no signs of any buildings so far no reports of anyone being hurt. democratic vice presidential nominee tim kaine is launching a new line of attack against donald trump linking the gop nominee to the challenges of the
ku klux klan. >> donald trump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values, david duke values. donald trump values are not american values. >> well, kaine's comments come just a day after hillary clinton gave a major speech, linking donald trump in his campaign, the new ceo to the politically volatile alt-right movement. but republicans, some of them are firing back, calling the allegations repungent lies perpetrated by a desperate clinton campaign. cnn national correspondent diane gallagher is following the story for us. and this is, i don't know whether to say it's ramping up or sliding down into new depths of heights, diane. >> you know, victor, it's really interesting to watch how this is playing out here. as the candidates trying to cast the other one agency the most racist.
tim kaine doing what they most often do the attack dog here. this is taking what hillary clinton said is in that thursday speech quite a bit further in the rhetoric. the rnc, of course, jumping on that very quickly, victor. i can tell you they issued a statement pretty immediately afterwards saying that tim kaine went to new lows. of course, the clinton campaign had issue with donald trump calling hillary clinton a bigot in this piece. so they've been trading these barbs back and forth. but with the rnc spokesperson called for in a tweet, democrats who denounced the tim kaine comments. trump surrogates have taken issue with it. donald trump himself has not weighed in on kaine's particular comments but you may recall after hillary clinton gave that speech saying that trump is running a campaign based in prejudice, well, he said that she was casting his supporters in a negative light saying that she was trying to, quote, smear
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all right. 11 minutes after the hour now. let's get you on the top political story we talked about just a minute ago. tim kaine turn as a political attack dog, saying that donald trump pushes the values of the ku klux klan and david duke. to discuss, we're joined by cnn political commentator and donald trump support jeffrey lord, danelle mclaughlin, also a clinton supporter.
good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning, i want to start with you, danielle, after we heard hillary clinton's speech on thursday about donald trump and the alt-right and steve bannon. you watched it. our viewers watched it. there was not this rush from the rnc to attack those statements and 20 donald trump but after what we heard from tim kaine on friday there was. did tim kaine go too far? >> as you said, victor, he's playing the role of the attack dog which is what a vice presidential candidate does. as michelle obama said, when they go low, you go high. and it's been one of unity. she's talked about love and a very positive campaign. so, i think that the comments that trump made about her, that she was a bigot, you can't just take it lying down but i think it goes back to the issue that's the way they're going to run.
>> do you think it was a mistake? >> i don't think it was a mistake, but i think they need to leave it behind. >> let me cut to you, jeffrey. we've heard from supporters of donald trump who are calling this out of bounds. the statement from the rnc tim kaine sunk to new lows with the dirty, deplorable attacks. this comes from the rnc who is obviously supporting donald trump who just days earlier called hillary clinton a bigot. and during this campaign has called her several other names. so is this appropriate for them to now, or donald trump to be so surprised by this, or the rnc to be so offended by the statements? >> victor, i had to say, when i heard tim kaine say this, i laughed because this is so unbelievably cynical. in 1964, i've gone back and looked at these things. in 1964, the democratic party had a commercial featuring the alabama wizard of the ku klux klan saying quote/unquote i like
barry goldwater, he needs our help. in 1980, jimmy carter, they said he was tied to the ku klux klan. is it racist, is it terrible? yes, but at this point, it's been tried so many times. it's just cynical. laughably cynical. and they ought to be embarrassed. >> let me come back to you, danielle. you said they need to get back to the issue. this is a proverbial where we're now, no, you're a bigot, no, you're a bigot. you push the kkk. at some point, do we get back to -- i would love to have the immigration conversation or the gun control conversation. but this is what people are following and we're discussing. can we make that pivot back to the issues, the policies? >> we have to. he has campaigned on division and name calling and the immigration plan and so many
days after the election, this should be about the issues, it's what people on main street want to hear about. they don't want to hear about name calling. i think clinton is right to punch back is obvious. he's been from the very get-go, not only get the primary opponents but certainly against her. we should have a conversation about immigration. i would love to know what donald trump wants to do about immigration which is to build a wall. which, by the way, 60% of americans don't want that to happen. >> we're going to talk about that later in the show. but jeffrey, it's difficult for some voters to get to the policy proposals from donald trump because they hear rhetoric which is disturbing. they brought it up. and i'm going to bring it up with you. the quinnipiac poll just out on thursday, 59%, to be precise, of the voters polled said that, quote, believe that the way donald trump talks appeals to bigotry. does he have to do a better job
of articulating these positions? and does he need to come out and be a little forceful of not wanting the votes of white supremacists? >> first of all, he does want the vote of the white supremacists. i think we need to have the discussion what is bigotry, when you take african-americans for granted as the democratic party has done. victor, the ku klux klan, i don't know if you know this in 1924, they couldn't even pass a resolution at the democratic national convention condemning that. >> frankly, we do this all the time -- >> hold on. hold on. jeffrey f jeffrey, finish. >> the new deal was built on racism. franklin roosevelt boasted to jackson who was a klan member that a lot of his friends were klan members.
race plus progressivism equals political power. if we're going to have a discussion about bigotry, we ought to have a discussion how it's used in the modern day democratic party with al sharpton and all of that kind of thing. >> danielle, i'll let you finish it up. >> jeffrey, you do this over and over, you paint the democratic party, and it's simply not true. hillary clinton is running, she's talked very forcefully about issues that we still have in this country, about the problems we have racism. there are so many ways this manifests itself day to day. everyone, african-americans, everybody wants equal opportunities wants education. she's planned other than random ideas of how to do that. >> hopefully, we'll get to some of those plan. this was something that wasn't part of an interview. this is something that tim kaine introduced as pushing their
values. the ku klux klan values. the david duke values, as you say, danielle, you suspect this will continue. thank you both. >> thank you, victor. >> thank you. >> christi. still to come -- dozens of earthquake victims are being honored today and laid to rest, as italy pauses for a national day of mourning. slept... you're not you. tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. we give you a better night. you're a better you all day. tylenol®. when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth and fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum-tum-tum-tum-tums smoothies, only from tums.
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that this is finally sinking in with many of these people, help us to understand what they're going through today and what their most urgent need is. >> reporter: right now, christi, the most urgent need is trying to see if there are still some survivors. certainly, there's a lot of rescue cruise out here. big assets out here as well, including dogs. trying to see under the rubble. unfortunately in those cases all they can retrieve is dead bodies. i want to show you why. this is one of the houses, one of the big houses that came down in the earthquake. finding somebody alive in something like that. surviving that would really have to be a stroke of luck. that's what many buildings in this town look like. we're also talking about the aftershocks here. this is really probably the biggest risk to the rescue and recovery efforts going on right here. i want to draw your attention to something. you see that ancient church tower over there made of stone. that has major cracks in it already. authorities fear that could come
down if there is another major aftershock. and we've had hundreds of aftershocks that have done exactly that. they've brought buildings that have had damage down completely. every time that happens. the rescue crews need to stop their working and evacuate immediately because of course, all of the other rubble there starts shifting as well. and they're in danger of getting buried themselves. it's very difficult work for the rescue crews. they're trying to bring in more assets. and taking care of those rescued. i can tell from you place like amatrice here, the most affected town, pretty much other family having people traumatized and very much afraid of these very strong aftershocks happening as well, christi. >> especially from the 2100 people with the makeshift tents are you getting any indication as to where those people will go, living in those conditions? >> reporter: yeah. you know, that is -- it's
actually a real big debate here in italy right now as to how you move forward from something like this, a lot of those people, more than 2,000 people have lost their homes. a lot of them at this point in time are afraid to stay in any hard structures because of the aftershocks going on. in the long term, the question is going to be with some of these ville avenues. are you going to rebuild them where per before, on a seismic fault line, where you have the earthquakes where that happens. authorities are saying maybe some of these villages may have to be given up completely and they may have to relocate these people to other parts of the country. that's the long-term thinking. they say they want to rebuild all of this but that's a discussion going on right now. this area is called an emergency area, therefore, funding is available to help the most immediate needs. but for the long term, there's very big questions that the italian politicians and italian society are going to ask
themselves what they're going to do with places like this which are very ancient, very beautiful but also very prone to seismic activity. >> fred pleitgen, thank you so much for bringing that. >> for ways to help earthquake victims visit cnn.com/impact. i'm sure you heard about this, brutal crime in mississippi. well, authorities now say they have captured the man who killed two nuns in their home. perhaps it is time we acquire a larger dwelling. but the mortgage process has proven to be challenging. not with rocket mortgage by quicken loans. it is the easiest and most logical way to secure financing for your living quarters online. you can securely share your financial information with the push of a button. it appears now is a sensible time to relocate. i am so happy. no need to get emotional. (whisper) rocket see star trek beyond in theatres.
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by police accused of stabbing two nuns in their home. >> police say this man, rodney earl sanders was behind the, quote, heinous crime. they say he broke into the house in lexington and killed them. i want to show you margaret held and paula merrill. police may the gruesome discovery when the two didn't show up for work. we know there will be a wake tomorrow held for both of the sisters and a memorial mass is scheduled for monday. donald trump's personal doctor is explaining what he meant when he said that trump would be, if elected the healthiest individual ever elected. dr. harold bornstein said he wrote the letter saying that trump was in excellent health in just five minutes while a limo
driver was waiting for him outside of his office. more of what he said to nbc. >> i saw it. and at the end, i get rushed and anxious when i get rushed. i tried to get it there in four or five minutes. it would work out just fine. >> donald trump reporter jeffrey lord and hillary clinton supporter danielle mclaughlin. jeffrey, this doctor says i get rushed, i get anxious. i try to get out four or five lines as fast as possible. that they would be happy with. is that the way the process is going to work. i know you heard the reagan story. i'm sure this is not the way it worked for him. >> yeah, you know, none of these candidates are statutorially
bound to put out their medical positions. to be perfectly honest, we have presidents who were less than forthcoming. franklin roosevelt for one. woodrow wilson another. i don't know, it's up to the candidate what they're going to release. and this is what's there. i really can't say beyond that. i don't know the doctor. what can i say. >> when this came out, it was heralded by trump supporters that this man is in great shape. he's in great health. he hasn't had any hits, concerns? >> i know, certainly, to my observation, he is in great shape. >> yeah, but you're not a medical doctor. this guy is and took four or five minutes to write four or five lines that they would be happy with. how -- >> well, anybody who's been to a doctor, i mean, i certainly, like most people have been to a doctor. it doesn't take them long to write up a report on your physical condition here.
it can take that long. but as to the contents and his credibility, i mean, i just -- i don't know. >> all right, danielle. let me come to you. how much do you think we'll hear about this from the clinton campaign? >> i honestly don't think that much. honestly, when this first came out, it looked to me like donald trump wrote it with the hyperbole and the descriptive and add adjectives used. did donald trump write this? i think from clinton from a transparency perspective. and from this idea that with our elected presidented who he may be beholden to. >> okay. that's enough of that. let's turn to immigration. jeffrey lord, can you tell us, and we're -- >> let's go back to the doctor -- >> no, no, let's talk about immigration. let's put aside for a moment, those who have committed additional crimes in the country
who are here illegally, undocumented peoples in the country. the estimate, latest one is about 11 million. could be more, could be less. coming to you, you can articulate what donald trump's position is for those people in this country? >> sure. i understand what he said to anderson cooper the other night, they don't all go back at once. that's impossible to do. but that they, in general, the policy is they've got to go back, and then they can be allowed in if they stand in line sand come in in normal fashion. victor, the larger point about this is a very good one. you cannot have a country in which people are allowed to just walk in the door en masse and stay. whether it's this country or any other country. and certainly, in reverse when poor sergeant tahmooressi made a wrong turn, they put him in the cli clink and held him for months.
>> as donald trump said he's not going to deport -- >> he said we'll see. >> we'll see is not a plan. >> well, this has been done once in american history by president eisenhower. very popular in the day. "the new york times" kept pushing it on there, going back and looking at heir are kiechiv that eisenhower did this. >> the popular argument is not always ethical. the popular argument aside, let me ask you about if donald trump is not going to do this mass deportation, and he said we'll see that people have to leave on their own, does not equal the self-deportation plan that he derided from 2012? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, i think he will make a very serious attempt to get people to do exactly as he says. beginning with criminals. i mean, when you see that the people, the killers of jameel
shaw jr., the african-american student killed by an illegal. when you see the killer of kate steinle in san francisco. those guys should never have been in the country in the first place. they should be gone. >> danielle, to you, even the supporters who may not be happy with the changes in his immigration plan, the latest quinnipiac poll shows that nearly two-thirds of trump supporters are simply voting against clinton. do you expect that even this ambiguity will lose support? >> well, the whole campaign there's ambiguity and equivocation. i think his core supporters will be with him regardless. i want to stick a little bit to the eisenhower deportation. when we had japanese camps, it seemed like a good idea at the time. >> that was a democratic policy.
>> but getting back to immigration, there's a lot of talk here. it's simply not true. i think what trump is proposing very much like rubio and rusbus. you could pretty much argue it's what obama is trying to do is prioritize the criminals and would give them legal status that would allow them to become a citizen to people who ought to have children who are citizens oar citizens do have noncitizen children. he's sounding a lot obama. >> they get to stay as long as they don't get to vote for 25 years. >> we'll wrap it there. jeffrey lord, danielle mclaughlin. thank you. there's been this rash of heroin overdose that is sweeping the midwest. and police believe, and this is probably the most shocking elements of this, that the drug was tainted with elephant
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>> reporter: april is 22 years old she's been using heroin for the last six years. in those years, she said she's lost an a dozen friends. >> one of my friends died yesterday morning. she left four kids behind. >> reporter: officials believe heroin linked with elephant tral qui tranquilizers is blamed for the death. >> when you're addicted to heroin, when you're using, you don't care about dying. you're just chasing the next high. and for a lot of people, hearing that there is a souped-up strain of dope on the streets, that's actually appealing? >> yes, definitely. absolutely. because you -- you stop getting high. that's it. you stop getting high. so when you know that somebody has overdosed or you hear about crazy new drugs, you know,
you're thinking, well, all right. it's about time. i'm trying to get high. that's all you've been trying to do. >> reporter: does that mean that this new strain of heroin that's cut with an elephant tranquilizer. >> i am very sure that there are heroin addicts who are actively looking for it. and thinking that the people who are dying are doing it wrong. they're doing too much. they're not -- you know what i think, they're just thinking that they're going to find a way to get really high and not die. or if they die, they don't really care. but they're definitely looking for it. i would be. >> my friend's on drugs. i think he's overdosed. >> is he awake? >> he's awake but barely. >> he's breathing. >> what's he od'ing on? >> heroin. >> reporter: this firehouse in cincinnati responded to nearly two dozen overdoses in a single
day last week. more than ten times their daily average. and they don't know when the calls will stop coming in. but april's mom is worried about a different type of call. >> you know, we're hearing an ambulance, and we always wonder if it's someone that we know or for our child. and that's something that we live with every day. you know, we go to bed at night, wondering if we're going to get that phone call. >> reporter: april and her mom know better than anyone how difficult the struggle with opioid addiction is. >> i'll do any drug you put in front of me. so, it's definitely a struggle. it's really hard. >> it's difficult because we can't like love them out of it. you know, so, we love them so much, and it doesn't -- there's nothing that we can really do for them. >> reporter: april says getting sober is a daily struggle. but in her eyes, not using heroin is progress. even if other drugs are taking its place. >> i'm definitely not -- i wouldn't say i'm using.
but i've used twice since i've been out. i've been out for a month. >> how has heroin changed your life? >> well, i'm 22. i just did 11 months incarcerated. i'm back on probation with more time. when in reality, i probably should have been applying for med school this summer. you know, that is what i wanted to do. that's where i should have been. >> reporter: rachel crane, cnn, cincinnati. >> and that health crisis there we'll talk to people in cincinnati later on this morning. old domestic violence charges coming to life for donald trump's new campaign ceo. what the campaign is saying about steve bannon and his future. before taking his team to state for the first time...
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stephen ban non is already facing criticism. >> to do that, he hired stephen bannon as the head of breitbart.com. bannon is charged with domestic violence stemming from an argument with his wife in 1996. allegedly an argument over money got physical when his wife said she wanted a divorce. the responding police officer wrote, she appeared as if she was very upset and had been crying. i saw that her eyes were red and watery. she first said, oh, thank you, you are here. the report went on to say bannon grabbed her by the neck and wrist and leaving red marks where he grabbed her. the report said she fought back, got away from bannon and dialed 911. neither the trump campaign nor
the bannon spokesperson returned to comment. former campaign chairman paul manafort and former campaign manager lawandowsky was in trouble as well. as soon as roger ailes left fox news, that was following sexual misconduct. now, in an interview conway was asked if trump knew about the domestic violence case against bannon and she said, i don't know what he knew about a 20-year-old case when the charges were dropped.
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australia. the california golden bears will rein in the warriors at sydney's olympic stadium. davis weber threw four touchdown passes and ran for another score in his debut. he has big shoes to fill replacing the number one overall draft pick. 51-31 was the final. and tom brady makes his preseason debut. he came in off the bench and immediately connected to set up a field goal. second quarter, brady lands a beauty. this time to chris hogan for the touchdown. new england is undefeated in the preseason after a 19-17 win. remember, though, brady is suspended for the first four games of the regular season as punishment for deflategate. and finally, olympic gymnast and massachusetts native aly raisman threw out the first pitch at fenway park last
flight. there was one problem, what to do with all the olympic medals. david ortiz was there to lend a hand or a neck in this game. he held her bling and caught the ceremonial first pitch. check out her stars and stripes shoes and socks combo. such a cutie pie. >> that is awesome. they were so heavy. >> so, so heavy. >> rashan, thank you. see you in a little bit as well. well, when it comes to recent presidential pitches, sometimes the biggest show is the one happening right behind the podium. that group there behind the candidates. >> nobody could explain this better than cnn's jeanne moos. >> reporter: what happens behind trump doesn't stay behind donald trump. >> hillary clinton is a bigot. >> reporter: he goes viral. the latest trump supporter to react with shock was passed on by a critical road, we are all
this woman's face. >> that was a classic. >> that was hilarious. >> this lady -- eeh! >> just over two weeks ago it was daryl vicker's face that dropped. >> when the donald ripped on how gun supporters may stop hillary. >> i can't believe he said it. it was a joke. >> reporter: daryl says he's still voting for trump. we have seen one guy befeed another guy chips behind donald. what are the different nicknames you've had? >> sticker boy, sticker man, idiot. >> reporter: at a trump rally in texas, we watched a hyped up supporter display his trump shirt giving the thumbs-up and thumbs-down signal, pray when prayer was mentioned and even climbed -- >> to restore the ladder of success. >> reporter: his own invisible ladder.
sometimes it's hard to tell genuine supporters from pranksters that manage to sneak in that clown for the cameras. pranksters like the guys that got behind clinton. >> i'm incredible grateful. >> reporter: wearing settle for hillary shirts. at a trump rally, the same pair showed up wearing arm bands. >> trump arm bands. >> reporter: the donald may say -- >> hillary clinton is a bigot. >> reporter: but trump is a spigot of startling statements. this woman's face was more mobile than her hands who managed two claps. when he's not provoking funny faces, trump is no slouch at making his own. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. he has supporters like david duke connected with the ku klux klan. >> do you want white supremacists to vote for you? >> no, i don't. >> ku klux kl arksklan values, trump values are not american
values. whoever committed this, i pray for that person. >> rodney earl sanders charged in connection with the death of two nuns. >> they lived their lives to try to make the world better for people who have nothing. and police said ten water rescues occurred in kansas city as a flash flood was issued for the region. so grateful to have your and. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we'll start with the arrest in mississippi. authorities describe this heinous crime, two nuns stabbed to death in hair home. >> paul sandoval is following this story. wondering what you're learning, if anything, how police got to this man, in particular? >> reporter: victor and kristy, that is the question. how investigators led to this man. he was a person of interest early in the investigation, but we do know this morning that the community of lexington, an hour's drive north of jackson,
is left mourning the loss of two women that gave so much to their community. >> margaret and i have worked together for many years. we just see patients and do what needs to be done. this is one of the poorest counties in all of mississippi. it rivals the bottom place of all sorts of statistics. >> martha and marilyn were found stabbed to death in their rural mississippi home on thursday. police say there was evidence of a break-in. the car that belonged to one of the victims was found on an abandoned road less than a mile from their home. this morning 46-year-old rodney earl sanders is under arrest facing two counts of capital murder. police say he was identified early in the investigation as a person of interest after what they call an exhaustive interview, he was charged. authorities have not revealed a motive in the killing or described a relationship between sanders and the nun, but they do
say this heinous crime has been solved. >> it's sad that people come to this, whatever motivates them. i mean, you know, my aunt and sister margaret, they lived their lives to try to make the world better for the people who have nothing. >> reporter: those in the community who knew the two nuns described them as outgoing and compassionate, always willing to lend a helping hand. >> everybody was the same in their eyes. all you had to do is go to them, ask them for help and they would help you any way they could. it really pained the community. >> reporter: and so now the community prepares to say good-bye and to remember the two women. we understand there is a wake scheduled for tomorrow and a memorial mass is expected to happen on be monday. meanwhile, the lingering question is a motive. what is it? at this point investigators say it's too early to call it a robbery. there are still pieces to gather of the evidence. they are still going over the evidence. evidence was recovered inside a stolen vehicle that belonged to one of these women.
but for now the community is focusing on the legacy of the two women, not so much on the man arrested yesterday. >> paul, appreciate it. republicans firing back, the republican national committee is charging that the clinton campaign is, quote, sunk to new lows after the democratic vice presidential nominee tim kaine linked donald trump to the values of a white supremacist group. >> donald trump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values are not american values. >> donald trump's spokesman said they are repugnant and social lies. diane gallagher is following the story. diane, it makes you wonder, hillary clinton does have a lot of drama around her already. when you talk about the clinton
foundation, the e-mails, we wonder why donald trump would go this route. >> well, tim kaine is kind of assuming the traditional role of running mate as the attack dog here. obviously, he's taking the clinton campaign sort of a new route that they are going, saying that donald trump's campaign is one that is routed in prejudice. tim kaine taking it quite a bit further in those comments there. of course, as you said, the rnc jumping on it to say it's a new low. trump surrogates call it an outrage. shawn splicer tweeting if the republicans don't denounce this, they are come police it. the trump campaign said initially the statements are not true and they feel like this is just the clinton campaign's way of trying to distract from their own issues. but really, christi, this is something the clinton campaign tried to hammer on the last couple of days. on thursday the campaign released a video trying to link
donald trump to the kkk again. and also trying to show that video from before when jake tapper tried to get donald trump to disavow the support of david duke. now, for what it's worth, donald trump did say to a television station in new hampshire, wmur, when asked point-blank if he wanted white supremacists to support them, he said, no, i do not want their support. but this is probably going to continue to play out as a back and forth trying to cast the other campaign as racist here. >> historically do we know if this kind of argument plays well with voters? i mean, let's be honest, races is a very personal issue to people. >> it is. and i think right now it appears what the clinton campaign is trying to do is take comments that donald trump has made and take comments that people who support him, whether donald trump wants that support or not, and try to play it as if it is the way the campaign operates. what the campaign wants to do.
cast his campaign in a light that makes him appear racist. the donald trump, his campaign trying to do the same with hillary clinton's campaign. saying it is her policies that hold down minority groups and make it impossible for them to get a foot up. some of that tactic has not gone so well for donald trump. there's been a lot of push-back on that. but historically a lot of people have said they want to hear less anger and more policy at this point. >> all right. well, we'll see how that happens. diane gallagher, we appreciate it, thank you. we'll take you now to the kansas city, missouri, metro area. look at this. this is what people are dealing with. flash flooding there, the nation mall weather service calling this an extremely dangerous and life-threatening situation. roads impassable. and you can see people trying to, the car here, the suv covered up to the roof. police here searching to see if there is anyone stuck in this car. people are trying to pass.
you shouldn't drive through the roads and don't know if they are passable. emergency crews are working around the clock to find people and to make matters worse here. much of the power is out. the flash flooding is part of the severe weather system that brought the threat of tornadoes and hail early yesterday. and the people who live there are reporting downed tree limbs, branches. no signs of any buildings damaged. good news here, no one hurt in the reports so far. listen to what we're hearing about the next rescue. two mariners have been saved after being stranded for a week on a remote uninhabited island in the pacific. they wrote s.o.s. in the sand. look at that. the u.s. navy spotted them and sent a boat back to pick them up. they have been missing for a week after their boat failed to reach their destination. a research team searched 17,000 miles for the pair before the plane got a glimpse of the s.o.s. what a story, i'm sure, they have to tell.
11 minutes past the hour, a major push to launch the libertarian candidate on the debate stage. the super pac is airing this new ad. >> i would like to punch him in the face. >> reporter: one candidate offends other one.
the other one denies everything she said. >> 110 e-mails contain classified information at the
time. >> reporter: america deserves better. gary johnson is the government that stays out of your pocketbook and of your bedroom. >> here with us is the former governor of massachusetts, thank you for being
with us, we appreciate it. >> it's my pleasure. >> do you think the dislike of two candidates can truly catapult you and gary johnson onto the debate stage or gary johnson onto the stage himself? >> well, i think what will catapult us onto the stage is that we represent a combination that neither of the other parties does. we both balance the budget as two-term governors. we are socially inclusive which certainly the republican party is not these days. and polls show that 62% of people in the united states want us in those debates. so we have been running around the country, we just got back
from a four-day western swing. we are gearing up for a four-day new england swing. we are spending money to get out gary's name recognition. but the commission on the debate is a nonprofit taxing entity, they have to be non-partisan. we are pretty sure we are going to be in those debates. and once we get there, we think we've got winning arguments. >> if he's in the debate, there's no telling what might happen. is this an effort to better establish, obviously, your party on a national level, on the national front? or how confident are you truly that you and gary johnson can pull this off? >> oh, we're in this to win. i think if we get to say 20%, 25% in september, we're very dangerous to win the whole thing. because we'll have the momentum. we'll be at 25% and three months ago we were at 5%. and the other parties will have come down because we seem to be
drawing fairly equally from both parties. you know, we see at our rallies that people are very responsive to our message, that we cut taxes, we cut spending, we set the fiscal and budget house in order. at the same time, on the social side, we are not in anybody's face. whatever your position, that's great. we are not going to have government force position on anybody. gary is running number one among 18 to 24-year-olds. and close in 18 to 34-year-olds. millenials really respond to this. frankly with all respect, i don't know why any republican would vote for donald trump. he's essentially, as he said, a new york liberal and he doesn't seem interested in studying up on foreign policy. he's got some very interesting, crazy ideas like rounding up and deporting 11 million people whose papers aren't in order and building a major mexican wall. fidel castro's cuba multifullied
by 100 off our border, not 90 miles offshore. >> bill weld, you are a former republican. boston magazine did an article on you very in-depth and made a point of mentioning say, when johnson suggested abolishing the internal revenue system, weld raised an eyebrow and said he wouldn't go that far. when talking about the new fbi task force, how aligned are the two of you with policy? >> we are very aligned. we both self-identify as small libertarians. having said that, i'm running as myself and running as the same guy who is a two-term governor of massachusetts and who changed the budget. gary is running as the former two-term governor of new mexico who changed the budget and created a lot of jobs. the unemployment rate went way down. we both think radical tax reform
is necessary whether it is a single national consumption tax, that is gary's leading position. i think we might want to have a look at steve forbes' flap tax, which could be either 17% or 19%. i was very interested in that when steve forbes ran for president. but we're going to get there. there's no question. otherwise the national debt will sink our economy, $20 trillion when president obama leaves office. half of that is his. if mrs. clinton is elected, that will accelerate with all the promises the democrats have made, not decelerate. >> so if you don't make the debate, what is the strategy then? >> well, we'll make as much noise as we can. but really more people are going to watch the first debate than the super bowl. and top point is that the people want to hear from us. people this year are thirsty to have it explained to them, why should they have to vote for only an "r" or a "d."
50% of the country is independent now. that was not true 20 years ago. so this is the culmination of a trend. and i think the time has come to open the doors in a little area. >> you told the portland press, harold, your campaign was pulling in a million dollars a day in donations. at what point did that start happening? did you start seeing that kind of money? >> well, the whole thing started changing about three weeks ago as i could feel the adrenaline move into my stomach in a meeting. >> what do you think is pushing it? >> it's the bernie sanders money, $32 here, $72 there. and i noticed on my own telephone, instead of $500 it is $2500 for high donors. it is gelling for us. and we look forward to a robust debate in the fall.
i mean, we're going to to ask the republicans why they are socially inclusive in a social nanny state, and we'll ask the democrats why they are spending so much money. it's almost like they want the government to have people live their lives which is the opposite of what libertarians say. >> gary johnson was on "new day" this week and he said, he would embrace immigration. these are hard-working people taking jobs that fus citizens don't want. get a system in place, get a visa to make it easy to cross over the border. what specifically is your policy? and how does principal johnson crack that technology that the best people who come over the border are those who want to work and not someone who has nefarious intent. we are in the middle of national security concerns. in a recent poll it showed the electorate, that is their second biggest concern, national security. >> i get that. so you have a background check
on everybody that comes across the border from south near mexico, and you give them a social security card to pay taxes on the money they make so they won't be lost. they will be in the system. and then when their work zee virginia expires, they go back to their family in mexico. it's not as though everyone gets a visa in this country is on a path to citizenship. so gary was a southwest of the border state governor. and he understands that immigration is and important part of our labor force down there. and you ask anybody from the southwest who understands the system, even if they don't particularly like immigrants or immigration to round out the workforce. and they are hard workers and not rapists and murderers. that's something mr. trump made up. they commit less crimes that the public at large, in fact, statistics show. >> governor bill weld,
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italy's prime minister and president are attending the service for the people who were laid to rest there today. and just 35 of the now 290 who have died in this earthquake. aftershocks hampering search and recovery efforts as the death and devastation across the region is sinking in. we've got cnn's fred pleitgen there. you arrived just hours after the earthquake struck. give us an idea of what is happening and what you see there now. >> reporter: it was a total scene of devastation. we keep saying, this is the hardest-hit village. have u.just to illustrate, 291 people are dead. 230 were killed right here. i just want to show you around here a bit. this house is one of the main buildings in the sector. it is flattened and the rescue workers are trying to see if
survivors are in this building. and there are many more like this in the city. and in the beginning stages, in the first day and a half, they did find a few survivors in the rubble. but now in the past one-and-a-half days, very few and far between. now that the 72-hour time period where the chances are the greatest to find survivors has passed, it really now would be a miracle if they found anymore. nevertheless, the rescue crews are not giving up. you can see back there right now there's a handover going on right now and the rescue crews are having a meeting to coordinate efforts. of course, they are working in many different areas in the town. and one of the things they have to watch out for are the aftershocks that have been taking place. because the after shocks are also very difficult for the folks sifting through the rubble trying to find people who are still alive. because every time aftershock happens, the rubble itself starts shifting and can bury some of them underneath it. very difficult for the rescue crews. they have been soldiering on. with the population here, it is an absolutely tragic site to see
people with tears in their eyes. almost every family in this village has had a family member killed or injured. the facilities are there to help the people, but the psychological scars is something that will be very difficult to deal with. and also the fear that a lot of the folks have right now with the aftershocks going on, victor. >> the scars that you don't see are often the ones that take the longest and most work to heal. fred pleitgen there in amatrice, thank you. for more ways to help the victims, visit cnn.com/impact. we are hearing now from donald trump's personal doctor. yes, the one who wrote the letter declaring trump "astonishingly excellent health."
just edging toward the half hour here, and donald trump's personal doctor is explaining what he meant when he said that trump would be the healthiest individual ever elected. he wrote the letter saying that trump was in excellent health. in just five minutes while a limo driver was waiting outside his office, here's what he told msnbc news. >> i thought about it a lot, and at the end, i get rushed and get anxious when i get rushed. so i tried to get four to five lines done as fast as possible. his health is particular. he thinks he's the best, which it works out just fine. >> all right. there's the doctor, plenty to talk about this morning. here with me to do that, amy
cramer, a donald trump and regional director for president obama's 2012 campaign. and a hillary clinton supporter here. amy, come on. he says he could be the best doctor in new york. but he said he gets anxious when he gets rushed. so i try to get four to five lines done as possible that they would be happy with. so if he's just writing to make the campaign happy, is this an objective opinion of donald trump's health? >> well, i don't think he would write something false. he is a doctor and has to be licensed. i don't know how long he's been donald trump's physician, but he is a little e centric. i think it is kind of bizarre since he let the media in there. most doctors wouldn't do that. so he is a little ecentric.
>> aside from the ecentricities, he says donald trump will be the healthiest individual to be elected to the presidency. he didn't exam james monroe, so how can you say that there? >> i think he's talking about a current living president. i believe that's what he's talking about. he said that, you didn't play the clip, but -- >> i've got the whole track here. he says, i think he would be fit. i think his brain is turned on 24 hours a day. >> you know he only sleeps three to four hours a night. >> let me tell you again, how much is this worth to democrats even with the interview from the eccentric doctor? >> i think when donald trump said hillary clinton sleeps all the time and he's tired. he wants his doctor to come on to say he's in great health. the donald trump campaign says
some of the most outlandish things. the doctor wanted to basically tell the american people, these things you're hearing from the guy's mouth who has been one of the most unconventional candidates in history, he's mentally sane. i just think the democrats will have a field day with this. i think you'll see a commercial. >> is it worth that much? >> i think it is. this is your doctor. i mean, this is a people who basically work hard to get their licenses and sort of come out and basically rebuke your own statement and admit that he sort of was kind of pressured to write the letter in the time when his limo driver was waiting downstairs. i'm not claiming he did anything inaccurate. >> i don't think he did it -- >> the date was december 4, 2015. >> last fall. yeah, he wrote it. he is a physician. you know, he's worked hard to be a physician. i mean -- >> the question is what is the impact? what is it worth and you think the democrats will make hay of this. speaking of outlandish things that candidates say, some are saying, using those phrases to
characterize what tim kaine, the democratic vice presidential nominee said yesterday. watch this. >> he has supporters like david duke connected with the ku klux klan who are going around and saying donald trump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. ku klux klan values, david duke values, donald trump values are not american values. they are not our values and we have to do all we can to fight to push back and win. >> there are some groups that once you introduce them to the conversation, it's often seen as a bridge too far. the kkk is seen as one of those groups. nazi is one of the groups, hitler another character. did kaine go too far here? >> absolutely not. that's the role of a vp to do things on the campaign that the presidential candidate cannot say. but we'll talk about what he said, he was at a historically black college and university
talked about the education plan of hillary clinton. they will continue to fully fund hcbus. but when donald trump made his failed appeal to african-americans, he was not talking at us, but he was talking to white moderate women. one of the debates was to soften his image. but the thing is, amy, the difference between what tim kaine just did versus what donald trump did, tim kaine was in a predominantly african-american historically black college university. donald trump was in a 98% white town talking to a 98% white crowd. donald trump had an opportunity during the primary to denounce david duke. he's the same candidate who re-tweeted the white supremacy group. you reported that for a long time. if donald trump wants to stop being labeled and tagged as a person who supports the values of the kkk, come out to denounce
your relationship with the kkk. >> he has said he doesn't want their vote. >> but that is not an official denouncement. >> this has happened before. this race card was pulled on the tea party. we saw it again in august of 2012 with romney. i think that this is because hillary clinton is concerned that donald trump's outreach to african americans may be affect a little bit. and it is deflect from her scandals going on right now. just yesterday there are e-mails in the 15,000 e-mails, those were deleted and there -- >> i don't want to talk about the e-mails. donald trump now has 2% and that depends on whether ben carson is asked to -- he won't do that well with african-americans. >> we don't know. >> i guarantee it, amy. >> good to have you both here together. thank you. nearly 80 heroin overdoses in the past 48 hours. this isn't just about numbers, this is about people here.
cincinnati police trying to track down the source of a batch of heroin going around the city. the heroin, they say, most likely laced with elephant tranquilizers. >> they will throw it in people's cars and say, hey, i'm your dealer, i have my package marked. come back to maine i'll give you the good stuff. this is how calloused the dealers are and who knows what is in the substance they are giving people? they are hoping people come back to buy more.
overdoses that seem to be sweeping the midwest right now. >> in just the past few days, scores of people in indiana and kentucky, ohio, west virginia have overdosed. several have died. >> sheriff's deputies in marion county, indiana, for example, released some of the 911 calls related to the overdoses. i want to give you a heads-up, this is disturbing to hear some of this. but apparently the department wants to show how dangerous this drug is becoming. take a listen. >> i found a resident passed out on the bathroom floor and then i finally woke her up and everything. i found some paraphernalia, some spoons, some syringes, she told she she was just shooting up heroin. >> is she awake now? >> yep. >> is she breathing? >> yes, she is. >> let's take you to cincinnati. police say almost 80 people have overdosed in just two days. and they are afraid a batch of heroin laced with elephant tranquilizer could still be on
the streets. our rachel crane is following the story from cincinnati this morning. this is -- i want to say, unbelievable, sadly, it isn't. >> reporter: well, victor, the problem continues. by midnight last night in cincinnati alone there were 36 overdoses. and in order to better understand the impact that this opiod epidemic is having on people's lives, we spoke to a family who has been caught in the addiction cycle for years. >> terrified. it terrifies me. >> reporter: a recent spike in heroin overdoses. nearly 100 in the last week alone have lori arian fearing her for daughter's life. >> i would love to get high. i would. i'm a drug addict. that's what i do best. >> reporter: april is 22 years old and has been using heroin for the last six years. in those years she says she's lost about a dozen friends.
>> one of my friends died yesterday morning. she left four kids behind. >> reporter: officials suspect a batch of heroin laced with elephant tranquilizers is to blame for the latest spring of overdoses. but april says that's not enough to scare away regular users. >> when you are addicted to heroin, when you're using, you don't care about dying. you're just chasing the next high. and for a lot of people, hearing that there is a souped up strain of dope on the streets, that is appealing. yes, definitely, absolutely. because you stop getting high, that's why they call it chasing it. because you stop getting high. you are staying well, you're staying not safe. so when you hear that somebody's overdosed or when you hear about these crazy new drugs, you know, you're thinking, like, well, all right. it's about time. i'm trying to get high. that's all you've been trying to do.
>> so that means that with this new strain of heroin that's cut with an elephant tranquilizer -- >> i am very sure that there are heroin addicts who are actively looking for it. and thinking that the people that are dying are doing it wrong. they are doing too much. they are not -- you know what i mean? they are just thinking they are going to find a way to get high and not die. or if they die, they don't really care. but they are definitely looking for it. i would be. >> my friend's on drugs. and i think he's overdosing. i think he's overdosed. >> is he awake? >> no, he's awake but barely. >> he's not breathing. >> okay, what is he od'ing on? >> heroin. >> reporter: more than ten times the daily average of calls have
come in. and they don't know when the calls will stop coming in. but april's mom is worried about a different type of call. >> we hear an ambulance and we always wonder if it's someone we know or for our child. and -- that is something we live with every day. you know, we go to bed at night wondering if we are going to get that phone call. >> reporter: april and her mom know better than anyone how difficult the struggle with opiod addiction is. >> i will do any drug you put in front of me. so it is definitely a struggle, it is really hard. >> it is difficult because we can't love them out of it. so we love them so much and it doesn't -- there's nothing we can really do for them. >> reporter: april says getting sober is a daily struggle. but in her eyes, not using heroin is progress. even if other drugs are taking its place. >> definitely not. i wouldn't say i'm using. but i've used twice since i've been out and i've been out for a
month. >> how has heroin changed your life? >> well, i'm 22. i just did 11 months incarcerated. i'm back on probation with more time on the shelf. when in reality, i mean, i probably should have been applying for med school this summer. you know, that was what i wanted to do. that's where i should have been. >> reporter: and while april is not in med school, we do want to point out she is in recovery. she says that she's receiving treatment about three to four times a week. and right now she's focused on getting through life one day at a time and staying clean. victor? >> rachel crane there for us in cincinnati. thank you so much to that mom and daughter for being so candid. rachel, thanks. it takes strong people to talk about this. that's why we want to talk to louise vincent.
good morning. thank you for being with us. i know you have used heroin in the past admittedly. and my condolences to you because i understand that you also lost your daughter to an overdose. help us understand the struggle for your family with this drug. >> well, it's a complicated -- it's a complicated problem. one of the problems is we talk a lot about the problem and i just heard it said, there's nothing that can be done. and that's not true. we have harm reduction that we can use. i have worked in harm reduction and have worked in harm reduction for the last ten years. and i watch as we fight against it, when it is an evidence-based philosophy that we can use to help. meloxone can reverse overdoses. we know we can reverse overdoses. and if we give heroin users
this, at least if we train them in overdose reversal, then at least we're giving them some tools and can give parents this. >> when you say harm reduction, what specifically do you mean? because i know that you've made this emission, you work with a health educator for the north carolina harm reduction coalition, but what exactly does that mean? >> what does harm reduction mean? >> yeah, what is the process? the policy, the program? >> one of the policies is syringe exchange. working with people who are actively using and providing them with strategies and choices. and not just telling them that getting clean is the only, is the only option, is the only outcome that is desirable. you know, we have to work for any small change, any positive change. it's what changed my life. when i stopped trying to always get to the very end goal, and i
started being okay with me and accepting small, you know, any kind of -- any kind of reaching a goal is a success. so we have to really work with people instead of telling people they have to be all the way well or they are all the way safe. >> how do they respond to your advice or counsel that they can make these gradual baby steps? and how determined are they to do it? >> it's a beautiful thing. people have been -- drug users have been told for so long that they're terrible, that they can't do anything, that they're pourless and unable to make choices and are unable to do anything. that if they are using, they might accept jails, institutions and death and not even fight for their lives. i'm telling them they can make changes and do these things and then they do them. and it's amazing.
we have -- i work with people whose parents have left them, they are unable to get jobs, they are unable to work because of stigma and because of all of the way society treats drug users. and really, when you show them some love and you give them an opportunity to be part of something, it's amazing. we do drug user organizing, we have community organizing. >> do you think any of those things could have saved your daughter? >> drug policy is what we need. drug policy has to change. drug policy is the reason people are dying. i don't blame the heroin. heroin is not good, but drug policy is really what is killing people. that's what would save my daughter. anybody that works with opiod-involved clients needs to be trained in reversal. and even in places where we
don't think people should be using, so jails, rehabilitations, when people leave rehab, they are 12 times more likely to die because of tower exchanges. yet rehabs don't want to give people the drug upon release because it muddies the message. >> louise vincent, i know that it is a hard thing to talk about. but i appreciate the time that you talked to us. our condolences to you in the loss of your daughter and we appreciate the help you're trying to give other people. louise vincent, thank you. coming up in the cnn newsroom hour at 10:00, we'll talk to the surgeon general about the rising heroin epidemic. he's taking this issue very seriously hitting the road to change the way doctors use opiods to treat patients as the pain medication sometimes leads to the heroin addiction when they can't get the pain medication anymore. that is all coming up. we'll talk about zika, the
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