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>> i don't think it's a softening. i've had people say it's a hardening. >> his position and his principles have been absolutely consistent. >> mike pence insisting today donald trump has not shifted on the issue of immigration. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." hello, again, everyone, and thank you so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. cnn has obtained a new batch of state department e-mails that reveal the type of correspondence the state department may have had with donors of the clinton foundation. a clinton foundation official requested some top donors be invited to a lunch event and asked if one donor could be seated next to joe biden. cnn's diane gallagher has been digging in on all of this kind of information. so, what have you uncovered? >> so far, this does shed a little bit more light on at least what the relationship is between the state department under then secretary clinton and the clinton foundation. these e-mails were obtained by conservative groups citizens
united, as part of the public records lawsuit. they shared them with cnn, and if anything, these e-mails are definitely sure to continue fanning the flames of controversy. there are some parts where a clinton foundation executive at that time, doug band, sent e-mails to top clinton aide, hu huma abedin, requesting if these people that he put on a list could maybe get invitations to a state department luncheon with the president of china back in 2011. on that list were the western union ceo, he can and rockefeller president judith w rhoden.
this is something that, of course, donald trump has been calling out on the campaign trail. the clinton campaign, though, saying that the citizens united is a right-wing group that's been going after the clintons for decades now. and citizens united, of course, have been looking into this and trying to do legal stuff with this for the past two years, getting these e-mails. >> all right. diane gallagher, thanks so much from washington. we look forward to more. appreciate it. and vice presidential candidate mike pence is particularly concerned about any foreign donations made to the clinton foundation. pence telling cnn's jake tapper in a cnn exclusive interview that he thinks an independent special prosecutor should open an investigation. listen. >> what is the point, exactly, you're right to make about the clinton foundation, and can you point to any actual evidence that as secretary of state, she actually changed a policy because of this access that donors allegedly had? >> well, it's a fair question, but access is also very valuable. and this week, we learned from the associated press that more than half of the individual meetings that the secretary of
state granted during her tenure -- >> not including government officials or foreign officials -- >> of course not. these are individual meetings she has discretion over, more than half of those meetings were granted to individuals who contributed tens of millions of dollars to the clinton foundation. look, you know, this has been unfurling in front of american people, particularly over the last few weeks. this week, we fund out 15,000 e-mails she didn't turn over. we also learned from congressional investigation that these so-called e-mails on wedding plans and yoga, she eradicated with some high-tech software called bleach bit, which completely eliminates the capacity, in most cases, to recover them, you know, the simple fact is, this is becoming more and more clear, through direct evidence in these e-mails, that state department officials under secretary of state clinton were extending access and special favors to major donors of the clinton
foundation. >> can you point to any favors, though? >> foreign donors of the clinton foundation and major corporations. and your viewers should be reminded here, that foreign donors cannot contribute to presidential campaigns. so this becomes a conduit for people to gain access. and gaining access is a favor, jake. >> mr. trump's foundation gave $1,0 $100,000 or so to the clinton foundation. was he trying to gain an access or gain a favor? >> i think he's made it clear he's contributed $100,000 to a little church in louisiana. he departmeidn't do it publicly. but when we were down there visiting families, he was impressed with the work the church was doing. and he quietly in the car said, i'm going to send $100,000. >> you're not comparing that to mr. trump's foundation giving money to the clinton foundation? >> well, i'm just saying, donald
trump -- i know we want to make donald trump the issue on the -- >> no, you're talking about the clinton foundation. >> i'm talking about foreign donors and corporate donors to the clinton foundation who the associated press this week were able to confirm were more than half of the meetings, private meetings the secretary of state granted during her tenure and then we found out this week, remarkably -- and this just, i think, is incredibly troubling to the american people. we found out the state department now, even though they've been ordered to do it, will not provide the balance of her calendar until after the election. this is this is an example of pay-to-play politics. the american people are sick and tired of it and it's what donald trump and i are going to bring to a crashing end when he becomes president. >> but you can't point to any policy change? you said the access is the important thing? >> i think that's the reason why we need to have an independent special prosecutor in this case. the fbi -- you know -- you know a couple of amongst, the fbi
wanted to initiate a public corruption investigation into the clinton foundation. and senior officials at the obama justice department shut it down. >> they said they looked into it a year before and there wasn't enough there -- >> well, we heard -- it was reported publicly that the fbi thought about opening a -- >> yeah, cnn broke the story. >> and i commend you for that. but my point is, this is exactly what the independent special prosecutor statute is for. the administration should appoint a special prosecutor. and frankly, one other thing on this. for the clintons to say if she's elected president, they would recognize a conflict of interest in the clinton foundation and so would be stepping away from it, former president clinton, if it would be a conflict of interest when she's president of the united states, why wasn't raising money from foreign donors a conflict of interest when she was secretary of state of the united states of america? >> all right. coming up, we'll hear more from jake's interview with trump's running mate, mike pence. what he has to say about trump's
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see you, dale. bye, rob. after week-long accusations of racism from hillary clinton, the donald trump campaign is vowing he will speak to black voters more directly going forward, but his running mate, mike pence, is defending his past pitches to african-americans. here's what he told cnn's jake tapper in this exclusive interview. >> you talked about the inner cities. there was a tragedy in chicago on friday, nykea aldridge, the cousin of nba star dwyane wade was shot and killed while pushing her infant child in a
stroller. trump's reaction was this tweet, dwyane wade's cousin was just shot and killed while walking her baby in chicago. just what i have said, african-americans will vote trump. that initial tweet, do you think that was a presidential reaction to a tragedy? >> well, right after that, he issued his -- a tweet expressing his prayers and his thoughts and his condolences -- >> but this is a pattern. when there's a tragedy, with he sends a tweet talking about how this is going to help his campaign. >> well, look, can i just make the point. a lot of you people in the media spend more time talking about what donald trump said and tweeted in the last three days than you do focusing on what the clintons have been up to for the last 30 years. so let me just stipulate to that. on this, look, donald trump has a plainspoken away about him. and the tragedy of a mother pushing her child on the streets of chicago being shot and killed, as nykea aldridge was, just breaks my heart.
you've got a little one at home. we raised three kids. it's just unimaginable. but it's on top of the more than 2,700 shootings in chicago -- >> which is why so many people were offended when his reaction was, "vote trump." >> the point donald trump is making is that we have a choice to make this fall. you can go with the party that has been responsible for the liberal policies that apparently have been content with unsafe streets in barack obama's hometown of chicago, where 2,700 people have been shot this calendar year alone. >> law enforcement in chicago says a lot of nose guns come from your home state. >> you have a lot tremendous gun control in chicago -- >> but not in indiana. >> in indiana, we know what most americans the know, that firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens makes our communities more safe, not less safe. >> not those guns that go over the border. >> i know the president wants to
blame shift to -- >> i'm just saying what chicago police say. >> the truth of the matter is, donald trump is laying out, in that tweet, in short form, and there's, what, 140 characters that we have a choice to make as a country. we can continue with the leadership that has left us with dangerous streets in our cities, failing schools, no jobs, or we can go with someone who is committed to educational choice for minority families and families all across this country, for commitment to law and order and standing by our law enforcement community. committed to bringing jobs and opportunity and hope to every american regardless of race and creed and color. >> governor, i need to ask you, your newly installed campaign ceo steve bannon is coming under a lot of scrutiny. there have been questions about a domestic violence arrest. there have been questions about accusations from his ex-wife of anti-semiti anti-semitism. did you know any of this when he was hired. >> i know steve bannon has denied those charges. i know he enjoys a very strong relationship with his ex-wife
and their two wonderful kids. >> does it bother you at all, those charges? >> i also know one other thing. i know the media loves to chase after these processed stories, these staff stories. but when i'm traveling across the country, the morphine people are focused on their future. they're focused on the fact that this economy -- we just rounded down the last quarter's economic numbers to 1.1%. real americans haven't seen an increase in their wages in real terms for 10 to 15 years. i mean. i have to be honest with you. as i'm traveling all over the country, people are coming up to me, they are responding to donald trump's broad-shoulders, plainspoken leadership that we can make america great again. we can be strong on the world stage. we can have an economy that works for every american. and i think all of these process stories go by the wayside and
this election will be decided on whether we go with the status quo, the failed policies, or whether we embrace real change and a stronger america. >> one more process question, although i think you might enjoy this one more. debates are coming up. >> yeah. >> are you preparing for them, other than going on this show this morning. are you preparing for a rigorous discussion of issues and other things? >> we are. >> how are you doing that? do you have somebody playing tim kaine? >> we're talking to some people about doing that. and we'll be doing probably some practice debates in about three or four weeks. but for now, it's a lot of cracking the books. i spent 12 years in congress. it seemed longer, but i spent 12 years in congress. but refreshing and returning to those issues, because i've been focused on leading the great state of indiana the last four years. but also, just preparing ourselves the to take that opportunity to lay out donald trump's vision for this country. it's a -- it is a positive vision, it's a broad-shouldered,
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so before the break, you heard governor mike pence defending the trump campaign's outreach to the black community. let's talk about this with paris denard. good to see you. and democratic strategist and clinton supporter, mustafa toounz, good to see you, as well. paris, you first. trump has been accused to have talking at voters, not reaching them where they live. a point both campaigns have made points on sunday talk shows today. listen. >> donald trump has not held an event in the black community. he is not going to a black church, as hillary clinton has done. he's not gone to historical black colleges. he's not met with the mothers of children who have been slain and killed from violence in this country. >> trump has been running for president, though, kellyanne, since june of 2015. that's 14 months. question, how many times has he
gone into an american inner city and held an event for a largely black audience? >> i don't know the answer, but i can -- >> let me just say, would you be surprised if the answer is none? never? >> no, i would not be surprised. and i will tell you, chris, and i pledge to you and everyone that's watching is that those events are actually being planned and we're very excited about them. >> okay, so, paris, why now? why will donald trump now find his way in largely african-american, you know, environment and for 14 months, he hasn't? >> well, i think it's important to note that trump has a long record of being supportive and engaging with the black community, from the time when reverend jesse jackson started the rainbow push coalition, and the wall street project, giving him space to utilize that on wall street, to the time where there trump took over mar-a-lago, he desegregated it and opened up those facilities to african-americans.
>> so is there a feeling that enough has been done and said and people should know and that explains why he hasn't been in a place where there has been a predominantly black audience? >> i think the liberal media has an idea that you have to be in a black community, you have to go to a black church in order to call what you're doing engagement. i see what mr. trump has been saying and the policies he's putting out a that will affect our community positively as engagement. so now the media says, he has to go to a black church, he has to go to a black organization. so the campaign is saying, we're going to do that. in addition to the continued engagement that he has been doing, and that the rnc is doing as well. >> well, hasn't there been some reaction over the past weeks, particularly where many had said, there was a feeling the that he was talking at black people. he wasn't really talking to them, the way in which he addressed them particularly, when they were audiences that had no, you know, black people in them. and that the trump campaign is relying on a televised audience,
relying on television to help convey his thoughts and feelings to black people and that just is not convincing enough. >> well, i think it's encouraging that the new campaign chair, kellyanne, is going to schedule events in the black community. but what i will say, fred, is that mr. trump has been engaging and been talking about some specific issues that are really, really important, so these other things about calling people bigots and all these other things are distractions. the fact that mr. trump is raising awareness about the reality of our community, especially those that are in places like chicago and the horrible incident that happened with dwyane wade's cousin. these are real issues, unemployment, school choice and high crime. these are realities in our community. and it's important that the republican nominee is talking about them and proposing what he's going to do. because under the past almost
eight years of the obama administration, and many of these communities that have been run by democrats, my community has been suffering. >> okay, mustafa, is it enough that donald trump has said, he's been talking to, interacting, but just because you don't see nim him in a predominantly black audience doesn't seem fair enough of an assessment of who he is and who he's trying to appeal to? >> fredricka, first off, i want to mike wallace toth liberal media. he's joined all of the ranks as well. this is just the tortured language that everybody has to use to try to explain donald trump. donald trump can't be explained. he has a history of making very racist remarks. from the beginning, he started with the birther movement against president obama. and you go on and on. when he launched his campaign, he called mexican rapists and
murderer. >> let's talk about the african-american community. >> well, if you give me a minute i will do that. >> but do people want to be divided into categories as opposed to being american people in general. >> as the democrats are doing all day long and every single day. >> so -- >> a reflection of the diversity of american people in general and a message that would resonate with everyone? >> make america great one is again. bringing back jobs to this country is another message. getting our illegal immigration system under control is a message that resonates with a lot of people. when you look at this high unemployment rate, 8.4% of black community, that is something that white people understand, hispanic people understand, and especially people in my community understand. >> let me allow moustafa to hav some air time here as well. >> if you want to talk about the state of black america, we can do that, but donald trump is not a credible messenger, because he has not done anything, and the
most he does is basically court white supremacists, where he's re-tweeting what they have tweeted. he has given them a platform unlike any other. you have david duke who says he's inspired to run for political office for the united states senate watching the donald trump campaign. >> who he denounced. >> this is unheard of. so you can keep interrupting every time you like, but these are the facts that -- >> if you're not going to speak facts -- >> because you are supporting someone who is driving the conversation in our country and tearing the fabric of our nation. and i think people should be ashamed to support donald trump -- >> we should be ashamed to hear tim kaine go to an hbcu and talk about kkk -- >> are you kidding me? is he actually sending you a check to be on television to represent him that way? >> wait a minute, one at a time. go, mustafa. >> look, look, i sat on the board of the african-american bank, the oldest one in texas and a lot has to be done in terms of creating an environment in which communities of color can succeed. black, hispanic, asian, and all
others. but the kind of rhetoric donald trump has engaged in, demeaning language, saying to people, give me a chance, what have you got to lose? is this the kind of language we want from the presidential candidates? >> paris, i'm wondering if you have any idea what the message will be, if, indeed he does go to a place where there's a largely black audience where you've heard kellyanne say, that's somewhere in the near future, what would the message be? how would it be different from what the audience heard, how would an african-american audience be from an audience in general? black, white, latino, et cetera? >> back to your original point, his message is universal. the message of making america great for everyone is a universal message. but when you go to the black community and talk to us as it relates to the things that have been going on. when you look at education, he's for school choice, he's for charter schools, he's for bringing jobs back. he's for getting that unemployment rate a lot further down than it has been under the obama administration.
he's for doing things -- >> but to plannings. >> excuse me? >> but no plans. he can keep talking about stuff, but not a single plan. you look at the website, there's nothing on there that articulates what he wants to do and how he wants to do it. >> all right, gentleman, we are all staying tuned. mustafa, paris, thanks for being here. we'll be right back. ♪
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all right. welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield. new information now in the murder of nba star dwyane wade's cousin. two brothers are locked up, charged with killing nykea aldridge. aldridge was is not head while she was out pushing her newborn in a stroller on friday. she died a short time later at the hospital. authorities say she was not the suspended victim. police say derren sorrells and darwin sorrells jr. were shooting at another man when
aldridge was caught in the cross fire. >> darwin sorrells was let out on parole for unlawful use of a weapon in february of this year. six months later, while he was still on parole, he was involved in an incident that took an innocent life. his brother, derren sorrells, was involved in a murder, not only while he was on parole, but while he was wearing a home monitoring bracelet. i want all of you to think about what i just said and ask what that tells you. it should tell you that it's time to stop talking and get serious and take action when it comes to how we sentence our repeat gun offenders. i'm frustrated. you should be frustrated. all chicagoans should be frustrated. >> news of the arrest broke as grieving friends and family gathered to mourn aldridge at a vigil. the young mother leaves behind four children, including the 3-week-old who was with her in
that stroller when she was gunned down. in a heart-wrenching coincidence, just one day before his cousin was murdered, dwyane wade spoke at a forum about the epidemic of gun violence in his hometown of chicago. >> back then, when jobs was dried up, when we wasn't privilege to certain high educations and to even healthy food. i think at that moment, at that time, we started to turn on each other. and we kind of adopted that mentality that, you know, it's about me surviving. and we've -- and we still live that today. it's like i don't want to tell no one else the information and knowledge that i have because i don't want for this person to be bigger or better than may. that's the mentality our communities take and it goes way back. and i think that's why i think it's important for all of us, as i said earlier, it's important for all of us to help each other, to go back and say, you know what, whether this started or how did this start and let's see how we can change there.
>> pretty profound. that forum was hosted by espn.com's "the undefeated," and it was about athletes, responsibility, and gun violence. reyna kelly joins us now from bristol, connecticut. so here you were part of this forum and bringing these great minds together, including dwayne, and then you hear about this. what was the initial reaction in terms of the distance between, you know, dwyane wade's comments and his cousin being gunned down that way? >> shock. i mean, i think the first absolute response was shock. and then the second response, almost immediately is, if this were a film, in a review, you would say, this is ridiculous,
coincidences like this don't happen, that's hollywood. but this actually happened, and it is what is happening. i could have, you know, come back from a town hall that we hosted tomorrow, i could come back from a town hall we hosted the day after tomorrow. i could pick six different cities and i'm not sure the result would have been any different. that's the tragedy. that's the reality of where we are right now with the epidemic of gun violence. >> and for dwayne, this is clearly very personal. he was talking about his own experience in chicago, that kind of dog-eat-dog mentality. and what has become a way of life that he was talking about and something like this happens. you hear the police superintendent, you know, who talked about it being disturbing to him. it should be disturbing to all chicagoans, to everyone. the numbers are quite staggering and people need reminding of just how bad it is. and the police department is saying at least four people have died and 24 others wounded in
shootings since noon yesterday. when your panelists got together, what do they talk about in terms of solutions or addressing numbers, crisis like this? >> what we talked about was a second irony, which is that we are convening to talk and how we wanted this town hall to not be about talk. we have arrived at this moment, which was the impetus for the town hall. we arrived at this moment where people are no longer numb. they're angry. who is -- what is happening. this country that we live in, what's wrong? what can i do? so we very much wanted to have a conversation that spoke to people's desire for solutions. and i think, you know, both,
sadly and ironically, but also completely correctly, dwayne spoke about the scarcity of resources and so when you are in areas that poverty has become untrenched, that schools have become impoverished and can no longer provide a quality education, where there are food deserts, where crime is high. and people feel like there is no way out, you know, you get incidents where people start to turn on one another. they start to fight over the resources that are available, in that block, in that two blocks, three blocks, in that neighborhood. and those are institutional problems that require institutional solutions on the one hand, but on the other hand, which is another point we ryed to make at the town hall, it also takes an individual desire
to see change. >> and that's the message -- >> and act on it. >> -- by dwyane wade. so profoundly in that interview. reyna kelly, thank you so much. our hearts are heavy for dwyane wade's family, for the aldridge family as a whole. >> yes, they are. all right, straight ahead, trump's latest promise on illegal immigration. >> on day one, i'm going to begin swiftly removing criminal illegal immigrants from this country. i laugh, i sneeze...
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all right. this morning ton "state of the union" with jake tapper, mike pence insisted that donald trump has been absolutely consistent on his immigration stance. but here's a look at trump's various statements over the last year. >> they're illegal immigrants. they got to go out. >> you're going to have a deportation force. and you're going to do it humanely. >> we're going to be saying, you have to go. and there certainly can be a softening, because we're not looking the to hurt people. we have some great people in this country. >> they'll pay back taxes. they have to pay taxes. there's no amnesty, as such. there's no amnesty. but we work with them. >> i don't think it's a softening. >> but 11 million people are no longer being deported? >> i think it's a hardening. >> but 11 million who have not committed a crime, there's going to be a path to citizenship? >> you know it's a process. you can't take 11 million at one
time and say, boom, you're gone. >> on day one, i'm going to begin swiftly removing criminal illegal immigrants from this country. >> all right, joining me to talk it all over, republican strategist brian morganstern. good to see both of you. so, brian, you, first. you know, this evolving stance, or i guess, you know, people are arguing about whether this is an evolution, a shifting or whatever it is. how does this help or hurt donald trump on immigration? >> well, it's sort of a trade-off. you know, in the course of thinking through the issue, it's interesting to see him land in the same place as many republican candidates who have actually thought through the issue, like marco rubio and jeb bush, because there aren't that many policy possibilities, so the disagreement frequently boils down to how to handle the people who are already here illegally and what legal avenues are available or unavailable to
them. he seems to be landing in the same place as many other republicans. in terms of the strategic advantages and disadvantages, it may appear to more normal mainstream, moderate people, who are in this policy place, as well. it may disappoint some of his core supporters who thought he was going to be different. he was going to be the hard liner, whatever. but he's come to the conclusion that many candidates have reached, on the facts. >> this morning on "meet the press," rnc reince priebus talked about how donald trump is trying to show more decency on the trail. take a listen. >> what i think is that donald trump understands that with every position that he's taken, and as you get closer to the white house, a degree of humanity and decency is part of every decision that needs to be made. and i know donald trump. i know donald trump in private. i talk to him every day.
i know what he's thinking about a lot of these issues, and this is a good and decent man that wants to do the right thing and take every position that he's talking about and pepper it with decency, dignity, and humanity. >> so, ellis, does this help him win support? or does it irritate his staunch supporters? >> both. i want to buy reince priebus an ice cream cone. do you know anyone who has a tougher job than that poor man, right? he's got this candidate, right? and he understands none of this stuff makes sense. i mean, where brian sees a sensible landing, you know, i see someone just throwing confetti in the air. he has no idea what those words mean or where they're going to land or what he's going to believe tomorrow. this is just a guy, he's got the attitude down, but when he tries to assign it to actual policies, he's clueless and poor priebus is just trying to figure out what the heck he's going to do for the next 72 days. >> but isn't it also kind of a, what difference is it going to
make at this point? i know people say they're undecided, but i don't know. you've either for one candidate or for the other one. so is it trump feeling like, with ten weeks to go, you kind of know where he's coming from. and if you're backing him, it's not really going to matter, these nuances of words, brian. what do you think? >> well, there are a whole lot of americans who are openly partisan. there are a whole lot of american who is claim that they're not -- they claim that they're independent, but they just happen to coincidentally vote the same way every cycle. and then there is a really tiny group of people who are actually undecided, and i will forever struggle to understand why or how they could be that way. but they do exist. i just think it's interesting that they've decided to really kind of go against the brand here. and as reince said, try this recipe of peppering in and throwing in a little dash of humanity and a sprinkle of
decency into the campaign at the last minute. >> and stir it all up. >> okay. well, things will get stirred up, so to speak, once the debate season rolls around. so september 26th, the first debate, and there's an interesting article in today's "washington post," which talks about the preparedness or the approach. and you know, clearly very different styles between, you know, clinton and donald trump. and you see right there, this headline of wrestlemania or, you know, careful. and so while "the post" writes that hillary clinton is approaching it like a seasoned, you know, a veteran attorney who's preparing for a big trial, you know, donald trump has had like sunday brunches or, you know, breakfast meetings with some of his close confidants, including rudy giuliani, so get ready for what's to come. so, brian, will there be, you know, a real display of differences on that debate
stage, based on the preparedness or lack thereof? or is it going to be more of what we're seeing from these candidates, just on a bigger stage? >> well, i think that that debate prep team that trump has is, i think, going to ensure that there are some key differences highlighted. i mean, rudy giuliani is one of the greatest lawyers that we've seen. i mean, what he did as u.s. attorney in new york was unbelievable. he convicted all the mafia dons. i mean, this is no lightweight in terms of -- >> but hie can't make donald trump suddenly now attorneyesque. >> true, but he can put the key lines in his head to try to reinforce the policy differences he wants to highlight. in terms of trump's debate style, we saw in the primaries, his number one asset isn't any particular line or argument, it's his persona, his attitude, like ellis said, that seems to help him dominate his primary candidates. i don't know if the same approach will work against hillary clinton. we'll have to see it to figure out if it works, but that seems
to be what we he not with not any particular fact or policy or line, just his attitude. >> don't forget, by the way, hillary stomped rudy giuliani when he tried to run her against her for senate. there's no facts, this is just about crazy stuff going on. as such, there is some risk for hillary in it. because you can't prepare for the guy. who knows what he's going to say. facts don't matter. you could get slimed at any second. there's genuine risk for her here. and this isn't her strong suit. it's going to be a lot of fun to watch, i'll tell you that. >> must-see tv. all right, brian, ellis, thank you so much. right now, coming up, the quarterback for the san francisco 49ers refusing to stand during the national anthem. why he chose this way to protest.
a star nfl quarterback is under fire for making a political statement sitting 0 then bench while playing the national anthem. >> it is incredible a preseason game would generate so much talk. in this case it is not necessarily what the nfl player did that caused people to sound off on-line. it's what he did not do. >> san francisco quarterback colin kaepernick is behind a controversial moment in a football season that hasn't kicked off yet. the 28-year-old chose not to
participate at the national anthem at the start of the preseason game on friday. the photo captures players and staff standing as jersey number seven sat silently on the sidelines he said he was protesting systemic racism. he later told nfl.com i'm not going to stand up and show pride for a flalg in a country that oppresses black people and people of color. to me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. there are bodies in the streets and people request getting paid leave and getting away with murder. kaepernick silent demonstration is setting off a firestorm of criticism. >> my salute to you. >> furious football fans are posting videos on-line burning all things kaepernick. >> you should never play another down in the nfl again. >> kaepernick has support, though. he was defended the protester in an interview with jim sciutto.
>> i would say it is justified. i go to games all the time. i'm a routine attender of basketball games. i never stand for the flag bearing. >> you don't stand? >> no. it is an act of -- it's an act of political resistance, political critique. >> one fan took to twitter calling kaepernick his next pick for president. the 49ers organization said it respects their player's decision, a part of the team statement says we recognize the right of an individual to participate or not in our celebration of the national anthem. the team is preparing for the next preseason kickoff. >> jim kelly, the 49ers head coach adding to the statements from the league saying they players are encouraged to stand during the celebration but not required to. so that's what is fuelling the exhaustion. >> have we heard more from him
since so many have weighed in different ways. >> from kaepernick on twitter he's been vocal there and people have been coming to his defendants. but when you hear from the coach himself he does not expect a major impact when it comes to the season. he will be on the roster and trying to get the covet spot as starting quarterback and scheduled to play when they take to the field come this thursday. >> any promise of what would happen in next games? >> not at this point. a lot of people will be watching. >> interesting. thank you. appreciate it. next hour of cnn newsroom continues after this.