leading into l.a.x. and passengers back inside the airport now facing delays as airlines work to get things back on track. the scare at l.a.x. comes just two weeks after a similar incident caused widespread chaos at new york's jfk airport. both incidents highlighting how on edge travelers are following recent terror attacks abroad. and just where did this start? l.a.x. is shaped like a large horseshoe. at the end of one of those horseshoes, this would be terminal eight, gate 82. they say a passenger who had made it through tsa said that he had heard this loud noise that sounded like gunfire. back to you. >> and paul, in an unrelated story, police found a man in a zorro outfit that they thought might have been connected to this. >> reporter: not connected as of yet. he was surrounded.
several officers around him, up to as many as eight, and him saying the whole while that this is not a real sword. we'll see what in the world this had to do with anything. but clearly panic had set in at l.a.x. as that initial report sort of hopscotched throughout other parts of the airport. >> got it, paul. thank you very much for all that reporting. . >> and guess where he was headed. vegas. >> you don't say. we will keep you apprised of all the developments on that story. now we want to turn to the 2016 race. donald trump planning to give a major speech on immigration this wednesday. many questions about trump's policy after he softened his signature position of forcefully deporting more than 11 million undocumented immigrants. trump's campaign also says that he will start taking his message to black voters directly in the inner city. cnn's sara murray is live in washington with more. give us the latest, sara. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. donald trump's campaign originally said he would do an immigration speech. then they said he wouldn't do an
immigration speech. now it appears the speech is back on this week in arizona. and it may be an opportunity for donald trump to clear up some questions after he's taken nearly every tone on immigration over the last few weeks. there are many wondering whether he is wavering on a foundation of his candidacy, this pledge it deport millions of undocumented immigrants living in the u.s.. >> we are going to get rid of the criminals, and it's going to happen within one hour after i tack office. believe me. >> reporter: donald trump announcing he'll deliver a highly anticipated immigration speech wednesday in arizona after all. >> if you want to be here legally, you have to apply to be here legally. >> reporter: the trump campaign insisting it won't amount to amnesty or include a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. >> at least 11 million people in
this country that came in illegally, they will go out. >> reporter: even his allies appear unclear on his stance. >> what about the millions in this country right now? what happens to them? >> i think drump will articulate what we do with the people who are here. >> well, he already has. >> reporter: the gop chairman even saying deporting all 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. is complicated. >> he's reflecting on it, and his position is going to be known. >> reporter: this as trump plans a labor day weekend church to a predominantly black church in detroit, part of his ongoing effort to woo minority voters. >> african-americans, hispanics vote for donald trump. what do you have to lose? it can't get any worse. what do you have to lose? >> reporter: the republican nominee sparking controversy over the weekend for politicizing the death of chicago bulls star dwyane wade's cousin, tweeting, just what i
have been saying. african-americans will vote trump. an hour later, trump offered his condolences. this tweet just the latest example of trump facing criticism for touting his political positions in the wake of tragedies. >> it's horrible. and it's only getting worse. i say vote for donald trump, i will fix it. >> reporter: as trump continues to blame the democratic party and hillary clinton for minority hardship and racial tension -- >> they've run the inner cities for years and look what you have. they're like war zones. how quickly people have forgotten that hillary clinton called black youth super predators. remember that? super predators. >> reporter: both trump and clinton's campaigns using their opponent's own words against each other. >> what the hell do you have to lose? >> reporter: now, as the trump campaign aims to close this gap with hillary clinton in key battleground states, they are
now preparing to throw a little bit more money at this problem. they're going to go up on the air in nine states with a new ad buy worth $10 million. we should have more details on that later this morning. back to you, alisyn and chris. >> sara, please let us know when you have that. we appreciate it. so what is trump's deportation plan? let's discuss this and much more with our panel. cnn political analyst and national political reporter for "the new york times," alex burns. and anchor of time warner cable news, errol louis. great to see you. he has announced wednesday he'll be giving this immigration speech. do we have any idea yet if it will have a coherent plan in terms of the deportation piece of all of this. >> we don't. what we know is he's been talking in somewhat greater detail about the mechanisms you would use to enforce our existing immigration system, mechanisms like e-verify to track the employment of people, to track the immigration status of people who are employed. but those are all measures that every presidential candidate has
either endorsed or talked about. that's stuff jeb bush and marco rubio were talking about. the big question here hanging over trump this week and i think really for the remainder of the campaign is, what do you do with the 11 million people who are already here illegally? and does he stand by the idea of rounding them up and deporting them? we just don't know the answer to that right now. >> and just to be clear, the only reason we don't know the answer, errol, is because he changed. we're in the spin cycle right now. we're trying to be convinced by people that he didn't change. we wouldn't be having this conversation if he hadn't obviously changed on this part of the piece. is there any other interpretation? >> no, of course not. he is changing in a way that actually makes him more of a traditional politician. you know, normally what you see is in the primary season, promises are made to the base of the party, whether it's the democrats or the republicans. then you sort of come to the middle and see if you can sort of trim the sails, adjust it a little bit, broaden the appeal to bring in some of the undecided voters who are not part of it.
>> that's an idea he hates. what you just said is exactly what he doesn't want to be. so that, i think, has been what the finesse point here is. how do i do what i need to do without being what i never want to be. >> exactly right. just as alex suggested, he's moving towards the bush/rubio sort of stance, which is really the only place you're going to end up. john kasich said during the primary system it's not an adult conversation to talk about deporting 11 million people. it's not realistic. it's not reality. it's probably not legal. the resources aren't there. the public doesn't support it. there's no reason to even talk about it. but that was the trump position. >> and yet, even this weekend, his top people, his vp nominee mike pence, and his campaign manager, kellyanne conway, were not speaking from the same script about the deportation. listen to what they said this weekend. >> his position and his principles have been absolutely consistent. we're going to secure the border. we're going to build a wall, have a physical barrier. we're going to enforce the laws of this country. >> we all learned in
kindergarten to stand in line and wait our turn. he's not talking about a deportation force, but he is talking about being fair and humane. >> okay. so his position absolutely consistent, mike pence says, with when he said we are going to have a deportation force, which was in november. and now kellyanne conway saying we're not talking about a deportation force. >> what they're trying to finesse here is making the case that his principles -- you heard pence say his principles are totally consistent. his principles of being tough on immigration, cracking down on the border, those remain the same. the mechanisms are going to change. i don't know that's how it works for a candidate who has really staked his entire campaign on being tough on up graimmigratio. you heard kellyanne conway say he's not talking about a deportation force. no, but the position is on his website. he's talked abouted aboued abo the campaign. you've seen trump do this in a couple places where he got pretty far out on a limb during the primary.
it's not that he explicitly said, i'm not for that anymore, it's just that he starting talks about something else in hopes people forget the previous position. >> should we talk about medical records? donald trump has called for hillary clinton to release her medical records. isn't the answer for her to say, you first? >> well, that's one answer. the other answer is to say that, you know, federal law sort of provides some pretty serious privacy protections to anybody's medical records. she doesn't have to release anything she doesn't want to. >> correct me if i'm wrong, haven't previous presidential candidates released more than what hillary clinton and donald trump have to date? >> yes, that is certainly true. if they could both get beyond the point of, you know, five minutes scrawled out while somebody's waiting for you in the limo outside, that would probably be good. >> alisyn cannot let that aspect of this story go. >> i believe what you're referring to, errol. >> we were all trying to get trump to come on record. this letter sounded very
trumpian, the way it was written. now it turns out there's a doctor that said he wrote it. >> this kbas tgastroenterologis he wrote it. so here is that doctor now. >> i thought about it all day, and at the end -- i get rushed and i get anxious when i get rushed. i sat at this desk and wrote that letter while the driver waited for me. >> go ahead, errol. >> there you have it. >> case closed. >> the next surgeon general of the united states of america. >> could be. the quality of the medical information and the source of the medical information clearly matters, right. so anybody who feels more assured about donald trump's health condition based on what this gentleman has done, i
think, is really going in a different direction than what most of us want. the reality is we have, through the process -- the process sort of works. we all complain about the long presidential campaign season, but the reality is the stress test of it, all of the different rallies, all of the traveling, all of the going back and forth, people can look with their own eyes and see whether or not somebody is tired, whether or not somebody is fatigued, whether somebody is physically sharp. >> by the way, both of these candidates appear to have stamina for this election. >> it goes to the authenticity of transparency. this gentleman writes the letter and has this bizarre excuse for what it is. but donald trump says we don't know enough about hillary clinton's health records. she should release them. when he knows this is the man who is standing it testament to his own health in this crazy letter. he says, we don't know enough about her. that's the nature of the dynamic in this election right now. >> 100%.
you've really seen especially since the convention, i think, every time hillary clinton goes at donald trump on a specific issue, he comes right back around and says, i know you are, but what am i. when she was saying he is a potential dictator, he's out there saying she wants to be an imperial leader in charge of the country. when she was questioning his -- when tim kaine was questioning donald trump's stability and temperament for the presidency, donald trump says, i don't think she's all there. so making that gesture. i think you're going to see a lot more of this, and the health -- it may be the most hilarious example, but i don't think it's the last one. >> well, i can't get enough of this doctor. i love you guys, but if i could have swapped one of these chairs this morning. >> we have more. you'll be very happy throughout the program. we have more from the doctor. stay tuned for that. guys, thank you very much. >> all right. there are also new developments in the shooting death of nba superstar dwyane wade's cousin. two brothers, described by police as gang members who are
both on parole, are now charged with her murder. we have cnn's rachel crane in chicago with the latest. >> reporter: chris, today this family still in mourning. yesterday nykea's friends, her family, her loved ones came together to hold a beautiful vigil to honor nykea's wife. i had a chance to sit down and speak with nykea's mother diane in a very emotional interview. she had a powerful message for the shooters. chicago police say these are the two men responsible for killing a mother of four over the weekend. brothers darwin and durren charged with first-degree murder. >> when will enough be enough? >> reporter: police voicing outrage over the shooters' lengthy rap sheets, saying they're both gang members and convicted felons out on parole. duran, 22, was released from prison just two weeks ago with six felony arrests. darwin, 26, got out of prison in february. he had been serving a six-year
sentence for a felony gun charge. >> we need to put them in jail and keep them there. >> reporter: caught in the deadly cross fire was 32-year-old nykea aldridge, cousin of chicago bulls superstar dwyane wade. the tragic death in wade's hometown shining a spotlight on chicago's ongoing gun violence epidemic. >> just sat up on a panel yesterday talking about the violence that's going on within our city, chicago, never knowing that the next day we would be the ones that would be actually living and experiencing it. >> reporter: aldridge was pushing her baby in a stroller when she was struck in the head and arm by stray bullets. she was on her way to register her older children for school. >> it's just heartbreaking. it's really -- oh, god. it's heartbreaking. >> reporter: but through the
pain, nykea's mother had this emotional message for her daughter's killers. >> i truly, truly from the bottom of my heart, i forgive them. >> reporter: dwyane wade tweeting under the hashtag enough is enough, writing, another act of senseless gun violence. four kids lost their mom for no reason, unreal. >> reporter: now, chris, it's very difficult to hear and see the pain that this mother is going through. and just remarkable that despite that pain, she's still able to forgive these shooters. unfortunately, this is not the first time that diane has lost a child. she lost her eldest daughter about ten years ago, also to gun violence. >> oh, my gosh. what a history, rachel. what a statement from her of forgiveness. thank you for all of that reporting. well, the trump campaign is
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millions of jobs, far better schools, safe communities where you can, in fact, walk outside and walk down the street with your child, with your wife or your husband, by yourself, and not be kill and not be shot, not be mugged. >> there's donald trump. he says he's now planning to do what many say he should have done from the start, which is make his pitch to black voters directly in front of a black audience. let's bring back our political panel. let's do the plus/minus on this. he's going to go to detroit. we're doing this with the backdrop of the latest example of the reality in chicago and other urban areas like it of dwyane wade's cousin nykea getting shot by gang members
supposedly on parole. how can he make advantage by what he wants to do now? >> the upside is he has almost nowhere to go on the downside. he can't do quite as poorly with black voters as he appears to be doing in the polls. in 2012, mitt romney lost to barack obama in seven states. the black vote was the margin of victory. listen to which seven states it was. it was florida, it was ohio, it was michigan, it was pennsylvania, it was virginia, it was key swing states. maryland as well and nevada. these are key states that he can't afford to write off. so he doesn't have to get all of the black vote, but he can't do -- you know, if 6% of the black vote, which is what mitt romney got, was not enough to win in all of these various states, he can't come in with 1%, 0%, which the polls have suggested in ohio and pennsylvania, and hope to get anywhere. he's got to make some kind of a gesture. it also, frankly, gets him a lot of sort of moderate white voters who don't like the antipathy.
they don't like seeing all of the protests. they want to feel like their candidate has some kind of a connection and is frankly not a bigot. so he's got to do something. he has, in some ways, a pretty small task to accomplish in detroit. he's got to hope that it's going to be a controlled situation where there won't be a lot of protests, where there won't be a lot of antipathy, where he won't be branded once again as the guy that black america has no interest in. >> alex, donald trump has been criticized for the tweet that he sent out about nykea aldridge's murder. i'm going to read that for everybody. dwyane wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. just what i have been saying. african-americans will vote trump. an hour and a half later, he sent out this tweet, or his account did. my condolences to dwyane wade and his family on the loss of nykea aldridge. my thoughts and prayers. does that clean up that original tweet that seemed insensitive?
>> i don't think it does. i think if you read the two tweets, you see there's been this consistent pattern on trump's twitter feed where he himself will go on and type something that is intemperate or doesn't fit the mood. then a staff member will tweet something much more conventional. >> how do you know a staff member? >> because we've never seen trump himself speak or write in language as conventional and measured as that. and also because there are ways of checking what device a tweet was sent from, whether it's an android or iphone. there is a pattern that the hotter tweets tend to come from the android. but look, i think the bigger picture beyond just these tweets is that the attitude that trump brought into that first tweet is why it's been so hard for him to broaden his base in general. he's not particularly interested in massaging or recrafting his message in order to meet communities on their own terms. he wants to point to the message he's been delivering all along and point to public events and
say, i'm right and this is why black voters or hispanic voters or women ought to vote for me. the challenge of him going to a place like detroit is can he add something to that message and persuade people who have taken a look and said, that's not for me. i think delivering the same message over again in starker, more alarmist terms, is not the way to do that. >> your analysis is right in terms of how much worse can he do in terms of the polls, but he has a couple challenges. one, what we see in this tweet, this dynamic might be new to him. he thought it was an a-ha moment to see dwyane wade's cousin get shot down in chicago. but that's the social condition in chicago. it's new to trump, but it's not new. the second challenge is he's going to go to detroit, which is a place with a pronounced back and forth with the police. he's on record all over the place making it the community's fault when it comes to what happens with police. he has to overcome those two
things. otherwise, he could wind up cementing a position for himself that might leave him worse off than romney. >> if he comes in with more than promises, he'll have to do exactly that. the reality is i don't know if he or his staff understand fully how insulting it is to suggest that people in black communities, somehow they forgot to care about, you know, good schools and safe streets. it habsn't worked for the last 0 years, 60 years, whatever he's talking about, and here he is with some solution. that in itself is insulting, but let's get past that. fine, what's your solution? >> he'll say jobs, better schools, and you don't get shot. >> yes, but that's an end point. that's not a method, that's not a process, that's not a program, that's not a plan. if he's got a plan, i'd love to hear it. >> school choice is what his vp nominee told me, mike pence, when i put that question directly to him. he thinks they, through their
other policies, will be bringing jobs back and school choice. >> and flood these communities with cops. he's suggested all those things. there's of course an operational question about how much of that can you do from the oval office. these are quintessentially local issues. something like 18,000 police departments, schools we know are locally controlled. so again, the mechanism sort of matters. if it's just bombast and promises and sort of saying, you know, democrats have run this town for decades and the town's in bad shape. i think it'll be a pretty short conversation, and it won't end favorably on his terms. >> alex, errol, thank you. great to talk to you both. nfl quarterback colin kaepernick says he's standing up for victims of racial injustice by sitting down during the national anthem. so we will debate that controversy ahead.
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right now, just tropical depression number eight. it makes a run at the outer banks and turns to the right, but it does get to about 45 miles per hour. that will make rip currents. we've been talking about this storm now for what seems like weeks. the storm that kind of skirted cuba all weekend long. that will make its way into the gulf of mexico. if that's already hermine, this will be ian. it could be a significant storm now that it's in the gulf of mexico. hot water down there. models are all over the place. we'll keep watching it for you. it's the middle of the week for this one. >> all right, chad. thank you very much. you're the best when it comes to tracking these storms. some political fireworks in maine. the governor just went off on a state lawmaker that he claims accused him of being a racist. there's some substance here as well. the lawmaker is going to join us to talk about the fallout next. well she loves to say, "well, fantastic!" a lot.
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>> i would like to talk to you about your comments about my being a racist, you [ bleep ]. and i want to talk to you. i want you to prove that i'm a racist. i've spent my life helping black people, and you little son of a [ muted ], socialist [ bleep ]. i need you to -- i want you to record this and make it public because i'm after you. thank you. >> well, he got his wish because it is now public. the governor refusing to apologize to that man, who received the voicemail. he joins us now, democratic state representative drew gattine of maine. good morning. >> good morning, alisyn. >> what was that about? what was that message about? >> well, that message was left on my voicemail about 1:00 in the afternoon on thursday last week. the previous evening the governor had been at a town hall meeting that he was holding at a
small town in maine. someone had asked him some questions. they were talking about maine's heroin crisis. as this governor has done repeatedly, the governor immediately became hyper focused on his point of view that the majority, the vast majority -- i think he said 90% of people who engage in criminal activity in maine are black and hispanic. actually, that's not true. the next morning i was asked by a local tv reporter on those comments. what i told the tv reporter is that i didn't think that those kinds of racially charged comments were really helpful in our effort to try to solve this terrible crisis we're having up here in maine that is killing lots of people. >> did you call the governor a racist? >> no, absolutely not. i think the words i just said to you are exactly what i said. i said that those kinds of racially charged comments are not helpful in solving the
crisis. again, this governor likes to throw stones. i try not to throw stones back. you know, i was being very careful in terms of what i said. >> here's what the governor says he himself said. so let me read it to everyone. i made the comment that black people are trafficking in our state. now, ever since i said that comment -- this was back in january, he originally said that. now, ever since i said that comment, i've been collecting every single drug dealer who's been arrested in our state. i don't ask them to come to maine and sell their poison, but they come. i will tell you 90 plus percent of those pictures in my book, and it's a three-ring binder, are black and hispanic people. so is that -- is he wrong? >> well, i think the evidence shows that he's wrong. to be honest, you know, nobody has updated statistics. the statistics that we have show that perhaps 14% of people who are arrested in maine on drug charges are black and hispanic. at the end of the day, our law
enforcement response has to be measured and very strong, and it's not going to be based on what color the skin is of the people who are committing crimes. the other most important thing we need to do here in maine is invest in treatment and education, which again this governor is not doing enough of. so that was really the basis of what i said that led to that voicemail. >> do you feel like what you're experiencing in this altercation with the governor is sort of a microcosm of what's happening nationally about all these conversations about race and racially charged language and accusations of racism? >> well, i think there's a relationship. we've been dealing with this governor up here in maine for the past six years. i think he would say, and i think the people in maine would say, if you want to know what a donald trump administration would look like, you really don't need to look further as to what's been happening in the last six years up here in maine. the issue with our governor is it just keeps getting more and
more extreme. just when you think he can't cross another line, he crosses another line. even the day after he left me the voicemail, he held a press conference. i think the -- you know, in an attempt to explain what he had said. he actually doubled down. he actually said that people of color are the enemy to the people of maine. again, i think those kinds of comments need to be condemned in maine, and i think they need to be condemned across the nation. >> so what are you calling for this morning? do you want the governor to apologize to you? >> no, i mean, i don't expect the governor to apologize to me. that is absolutely not his style. i think maine people are getting extremely concerned after six years and these kind of escalating events with respect to our governor that he's now at the point where he isn't fit to be governor. he really probably needs to get some sort of professional help and that as a state, we're not going to be able to solve our problems, including this very
serious problem we have with heroin under the leadership of this governor. you know, we're just concerned that we can't move our state forward with this man as our governor. >> let me just quickly end on the statement that was put out by governor lepage. he said, it made me enormously angry when a tv reporter asked me for my reaction about gattine calling me a racist. so i called gattine and used the worst word i could think of. mr. gattine, thank you for joining us with your side of the story. obviously we'll continue to follow this and continue the conversation. >> thank you for having me on, alisyn. another story we're following this morning, what happened on cornell university's campus. there was a large fight. it ended with a student being stabbed to death. we have new details on what happened next.
to death in new york. it happened on the campus of cornell university. >> chris, the two victims ithica college students. they were attending an event organized by students at cornell university. it was after that event that a fight broke out and then this stabbing. police responded there about 2:00 in the morning on sunday. two people injured, one seriously, and then that other person killed. 19-year-old anthony nazir. he's from brooklyn. a statement from ithica college's president said anthony is a business administration student. he was a sophomore. he was a member of the executive board of brothers for brothers, a student organization dedicated to empowering men of color on our campus. of course, a serious loss there. now, the investigation turns to what exactly unfolded during that fight. a weapon found on the scene there. police also think there's a lot of cell phone video. so that's what they're looking at right now, guys.
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represent and this country is representing people the way that it's supposed to, i'll stand. >> and now he has a problem. that's san francisco 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick, defending protests of the oppressed in this country. he sat during the national anthem before his preseason game. his actions sparked a lot of anger. we're going to continue a debate about this issue. let's discuss. we have cnn political commentator, host of b.e.t. news, and author of "nobody," marc lamont hill. and cnn political commentator and host of the ben ferguson show, ben ferguson. ben, let me start with you. we hear about a lot of protests in this country about a lot of people who are upset about a lot of issues, specifically the idea of policing in poor or african-american communities. he does this, outrage from a lot of different sectors of the sporting world and america, burning his jersey after this. why? >> well, one, even his own
colleagues are saying that they have a problem with this because the national anthem is something you stand for, for what is right with this country and continually evolving country. you're standing to honor that we're always trying to become a better nation. what he did was, i think, really an issue of hypocrisy. he didn't stand up against anybody in the nfl when there were many people that were abusing minorities and african-american women. he didn't stand up and call out players when they beat their wives on hotel videos. the nfl reinstated them. he didn't call out the nfl for their hypocrisy, standing up and saying they stand up for women, when in fact the players in their league are able to come back after abusing minority women. so this is an opportunity for him, if he wanted to be consistent, he should have been consistent and actually fought within the nfl to have a culture of change there for these athletes that are paid an incredible amount of money that had done these things it, and he had a microphone for that. he didn't do it. but all the sudden he says, oh, america is a terrible place.
look at his own life. what an incredible american story. adopted, comes out from a tough situation, has parents that don't care about the color of their skin or society, what they may think about them adopting someone who's biracial, ends up making it to the nfl. this is a story that should be celebrated about what's right with america, and that's why you stand. instead, he says, i don't like america. well, if you don't like it so much, why are you playing in the national football league, america's game? >> you said over the weekend that you agreed with colin kaepernick sitting during the anthem. why? >> just a couple things. one, i didn't hear him say america is a terrible country. colin kaepernick never said america is a terrible country. he said he has critiques of america. we can laugh, but it doesn't change the fact he never said that. >> it sounds like a generous explanation. he said this flag doesn't represent what it's supposed to. he outlined the condition of going on with policing in black communities. he said i'm not going to stand
until it does. that seems negative. >> it seems critical. oftentimes when black people critique america, it comes off negative. when trump says he wants to make america great again, he doesn't get critiqued. no one accuses them of not liking america. >> they all stand during the national anthem. >> none of those people get accused of hating america or having a problem with america or thinking america is terrible. they simply have a critique of it. his particular way of critiquing america is to sit down. that's his particular form of resistance. i think it's a principled one. i think it's not offending anyone. it's also not true to say all of his teammates disagree with him. many of his teammates who i've spoken to, and some of which have been on the public record, stand in solidarity with him. for some people, the national anthem is a way of saying we're getting better. oftentimes for african-american people that, hasn't been the case. the song itself, the land of the free, home of the brave, is
create ed in the midst of slave. there's a long tradition of black people resisting some of the symbols white people see as freedom. >> yet we corrected it. this is the point that i think is being lost. i didn't say that everyone in the nfl doesn't like what he's doing, but there's an awful lot of players that have come out and made it clear that america has evolved in a pretty incredible way. he's a personal story of how incredible the change has been in this country. the second part is this. in politics, you have many people that protest. you have many people that go out and protest, but they all seem to stand during the national anthem because they all understand that in a country -- find another country that has corrected their wrongs in such an incredible way like this country has. find a country where you can do the things that colin kaepernick is describing that blacks live matter is doing, that any protester is doing, where you and i can have this conversation and it not be limited by a government or either of us be shut out by political power. that is what true freedom is. that's what the national anthem is about.
and most importantly, i find the hypocrisy here in colin kaer nick for the fact he's never once come out and criticized any player in the nfl that's gone after a minority. >> i get you on that. he has a couple problems right now, this young man. one is a legitimate one, which is he chose now to come forward when there were things much closer to home in terms of what he represents as a professional. >> why is that closer to home? i don't understand. >> because he's playing for the nfl. >> but he's also a black person. >> no, no. i know. >> this is my point, chris. again, white people -- >> so are the people who were doing lots of abusive things in that league. he could have spoke out and he didn't. >> i agree with you, but to decide what's closer to home to him is often another example of white people defining for black people what's most important. let me make the point before you disagree. for many black people, walking down the street, you're a threat, right. for many black people, you are also threatened by state violence. before he puts on his pads, before he puts on his uniform,
he has brothers, cousins. so for him, that might be closer to home than what happens in the nfl. also, i think it's a little unreasonable to say, if you haven't critiqued this now, then you can never critique anything again. by that logic -- >> before, you mean. >> exactly. by that logic, he can now never critique anything in his life again but a he didn't critique something he should have before one more point. i disagree with it. he also said -- >> you and i obviously disagree. let me go back to the point -- >> hold on. let me hear what he disagrees with. >> he also said america has corrected its wrongs. to the extent he's right, and i don't think he's entirely right, but it has done so because people have resisted, because people have sat down, because people like mohammed ali, who we just celebrated for doing the same things, although back then we called him anti-american. that's how america corrects its wrongs, resistance. we've called a whole bunch of folk anti-american. i'm here to celebrate colin
kaepernick now. >> ben, final word. >> i'm not going to celebrate a guy that sits on the sideline while making hundreds of millions of dollars because of men and women of all races and colors that have fought for the freedom to be able to play a game in america for an incredible amount of money. i'm not going to celebrate colin kaepernick because the guy, i think, is a fraud. if he truly believes this much in change, why won't you put your career on the line and criticize the nfl for players that have gone after minorities in the same way he claims is happening every day in the streets of america. he's never had the guts to do that because it would have cost him a paycheck. there are people in the league that would have listened to him as a player, who if he would have come out and said, i'm ashamed to take the field with people that commit these types of crimes against minorities and african-american women, who cannot defend themselves against guys like us that are huge and incredible shape, and i'm embarrassed to take the field with them. i would have more respect for today. but i think this is a situation where he says, you know what, i can sit on the sideline and
there's no repercussions for me financially. but if i said something about the nl and the players i play with that do the same things i'm saying are happening in the streets of america, i might lose a paycheck. and that's why i think it's hypocrisy. and i have no respect for him. >> i think he may lose a paycheck now. this ain't easy. i think he's catching hell right now. >> ben, marc, thank you very much. what do you think? you've just heard both sides of this controversy articulated. tweet us @newday. post your comment on facebook.com/newday. there's a lot of news this morning, including this scare that sent people running out of the doors and on to the tarmac at l.a.x. what happened? let's get to it. chaos overnight at los angeles international airport. >> reports of a gunman sending travelers running through terminals. >> a flood of people came running into the bathroom, saying there's a shooter. everyone is in a huge panic. >> on day one, i'm going to begin swiftly removing criminal illegal immigrants. >> he's not talking about a
deportation force. he is talking about being fair and humane. >> his real message seems to be make america hate again. >> we have bad schools, no jobs, high crime, and no hope. what do you have to lose? >> it's just heartbreaking. >> the tragic death of nykea aldridge shining a spotlight on gun violence in chicago. >> these kids are screaming out for help. >> when will enough be enough? good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." we begin with breaking news for you because of this chaos and confusion at los angeles international airport. it was following the reports of an active shooter. there were loud noises that sent frightened travelers running to the tarmacs. >> police had to shut down the airport. they didn't find anything major that we can report to you this morning. they did detain and question a man who was dressed as zorro. a little bit of levity here.
he had nothing to do with the incident. he was just in a costume and going to vegas. however, the faa did have to temporarily issue a ground stop. there are a lot of people's lives inconvenienced by that. paul, as you laid out very accurately, this may have been nothing, but it is a reflection of something, which is people's anxiety. >> reporter: that is exactly right. and panic went through this airport. in fact, some 68 arriving flights were delayed. they're still trying to sort out how many departing flights were delayed or possibly canceled. it's calm right now, but it sure wasn't last night. chaos overnight at los angeles international airport. reports of an active shooter sending travelers running out of several terminals. >> we just saw people sprinting the other way. >> i was in the bathroom, and all the sudden there was a flood of people that came running into the bathroom saying there was a shooter. i mean, everyone is in a huge
panic. >> reporter: panicked passengers using emergency exits to get away, some ending up in restricted parts of the airport. the scare leading to a full ground stop of air traffic as police searched the airport. l.a.x. later confirming that the source was likely a loud noise. the false alarm causing a ripple effect of headaches for travelers. massive gridlock on the freeways leading into l.a.x. and passengers back inside the airport now facing delays as airlines work to get things back on track. the scare at l.a.x. comes just two weeks after a similar incident caused widespread chaos at new york's jfk airport. both incidents highlighting how on edge travelers are following recent terror attacks abroad. and the spark that set this all off emanated from terminal eight. it was gate 82. that's united. from a single reporting male who had made it through the check point. before that, that's where they
detained, this is chris' favorite subject, zorro. he was part of what they call cos play, or costume play. they determined he had nothing to do with anything and his sword was plastic. >> well, it is a good ending to the situation only because it's nice to inject a little bit of levity into something that wound up being a nonevent. we have things that wind up being real so often. it's good to have one that wound up being nothing. paul, thank you very much. let's turn to the 2016 race. donald trump's long-awaited immigration speech is coming this wednesday in arizona. the big question here is actually kind of one that's easy to answer. did he change his position? remember so forcefully saying i'm going to deport all 11 million. the answer is yes. now maybe he might be going back. certainly trump is going to explain in his own words. he's also going to make a direct appeal to black voters later this week. cnn's sara murray is live with all the developments in the trump campaign. what are we expecting? >> reporter: good morning, chris. the trump campaign went back and forth on whether to even deliver
this speech this week. now it is back on. the key question, as you said, is what's going on with druonal trump? is he just softening his tone when it comes to talking about immigration, or is he going to come out this wednesday and outline a new plan on how to deal with the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s.? and is he going to backtrack on that pledge to deport all of them? >> we are going to get rid of the criminals, and it's going to happen within one hour after i tack office. believe me. >> reporter: donald trump announcing he'll deliver a highly anticipated immigration speech wednesday in arizona after all. >> if you want to be here legally, you have to apply to be here legally. >> reporter: the trump campaign insisting it won't amount to amnesty or include a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. >> we all learned in kinder gartn to stand in line and wait our turn. >> reporter: but as questions mount about whether trump is softening his hard line position from the primaries. >> at least 11 million people in
this country that came in illegally, they will go out. >> reporter: even his allies appear unclear on his stance. >> what about the millions in this country right now? what happens to them? >> i think donald trump will articulate what we do with the people who are here. >> well, he already has. >> reporter: the gop chairman even saying deporting all 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. is complicated. >> he's reflecting on it, and his position is going to be known. >> reporter: this as trump plans a labor day weekend trip to a predominantly black church in detroit, part of his ongoing effort to woo minority voters. >> african-americans, hispanics vote for donald trump. what do you have to lose? it can't get any worse. what do you have to lose? >> reporter: the republican nominee sparking controversy over the weekend for politicizing the death of chicago bulls star dwyane wade's cousin, tweeting, just what i have been saying. african-americans will vote
trump. an hour later, trump offered his condolences. this tweet just the latest example of trump facing criticism for touting his political positions in the wake of tragedies. >> it's horrible. and it's only getting worse. i say vote for donald trump, i will fix it. >> reporter: as trump continues to blame the democratic party and hillary clinton for minority hardship and racial tension -- >> they've run the inner cities for years and look what you have. they're like war zones. how quickly people have forgotten that hillary clinton called black youth super predators. remember that? super predators. >> reporter: both trump and clinton's campaigns using their opponent's own words against each other. >> what the hell do you have to lose? >> reporter: now, donald trump's campaign is looking to put a little more pressure on clinton this week. they're going up on the air waves with a new $10 millioned a
by -- $10 million ad buy. >> sara, appreciate it. we have that ad. we're going to play it for you in just a second. first, let's discuss some of the issues on the table. cnn political commentator and former donald trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. yes, he is still receiving severance from the trump campaign. and former governor of michigan and senior adviser for correct the record, jennifer granholm. good to have you both here. let's start off with something, corey, that should be simple. what helped you guys distinguish yourself early on, and you deserve credit for identifying the issue, was not just immigration as an issue. it was a very specific stance. everybody says get rid of the people who are criminals here in the country. everybody says you want a strong border. everybody says you need e-verify so these employers who are enticing people to come into the country, often helping manufacture them to get into the country, have to be held accountable. everybody says that.
you said something different. you said, we're going to get rid of all of these 11 million or whatever the number is. we're going to put together a force. we're going to get rid of them. and it helped trump immeasurably. he moved off that position last week. that's just true. is there any other way to look at it? >> well, you know, chris, if you look at the conversation with anderson cooper, he said, look, here's what we're going to do. you have to go out before you can come back and become a citizen. he was very clear about this. he was in manchester, new hampshire. what we're going to see this wednesday from phoenix, arizona, he's going to lay out in specific details his plan. >> he said, i'll work with them. not to cut you off, but this matters. it's getting confusing. why does he need to give this speech to clarify something if he never changed from what it was. he did, and that's okay. it happens all the time. i don't understand why the campaign wants to have it both ways. >> when you look at this issue and get past building a wall, which he's going to do, and he's talked about securing the border. what the issue is right now, our government doesn't know how many illegal immigrants there are in
this country. they don't know if it's 11 million or 20 million or 25 million and where they are. you have to identify these people. that's the most important thing. >> he said, i'm getting rid of all of them. and. allowed him to beat back his competitors. >> that's right. >> whenever they said anything like what you're saying now, he would look and he'd go. >> you got to find them. >> i'll find them. i'll get rid of them. you're weak. >> convicted felons, criminals, gone right away. he said that first hour, out the door. >> everybody says that. >> the other problem is, other government doesn't even understand who these people are. we don't know where they are. we have to find them. this take time. then we have to understand how humanely -- >> everybody says that. >> he said there is no path to citizenship. he's been very clear about that. very different than what everybody else has said. >> not that different. you know what, jennifer, maybe i'm wrong. >> he is, jennifer. you know that. >> corey says i'm wrong. you weigh in. you be the moderator.
>> you know what, chris, i agree with corey. i don't think he's changing his position. i think what he is doing is just, you know, katrina pierson said last week he's just changing the words using to describe his position, but i think that's actually what's happening. he's using words like humane. he's using words like, we'll work with them. what does that really mean? when somebody is i think lawful, in his plan, they're going to go out. how do they go out? you use a deportation force. he's not going to do that. he's going to beef up enforcement. but he's saying the same thing he's been saying all along, which is the 11 million people, good luck with this, go out. and they apply for citizenship and they come back. how long does it take to get citizenship? it takes years. essentially, he's saying the same thing. we're going to deport 11 million people. >> let's get to a different issue. he's going to make a direct outreach to the african-american community. he's going to detroit.
in the past he's been criticized, he was giving that call to a white audience. what's going to be his message to those people in terms of how he can make the lives better for african-americans? >> look, so there's a couple things. we saw this in another terrible tragedy this weekend in chicago. what we've seen is from 2012 to 2016, more people have died in the city of chicago than in afghanistan from 2001 to 2015. our cities aren't safe. we need to do something to allow the police to do a better job. african-americans predominantly in the south side of chicago are getting killed. when he goes to detroit, he's going to go with dr. carson. what he's going to talk about specifically is 26% of the african-american community right now lived in poverty. that's not even a question. that's true. a quarter of the african-americans in this country are living in poverty. >> so what do you do about it? you think he'll put meat on the bones? >> he'll absolutely do that. the earn the median income right now is less for african-americans than it was four years ago. food stamps are up by 4 million from when barack obama took office from 7.4 million to 11.3
million. we have to give opportunity. we have to give everybody a job. a rising tide lifts all boats. i think what you're going to see, very specific plans, how african-americans and low-income people across the country are going to have more opportunity under a trump administration. >> there's a new ad out to that effect. i believe we have it. here's a part of the new effort of the trump campaign to actually get on with paid media. this goes to these issues korco is talking about. here's the ad. >> in hillary clinton else america, the middle class gets crushed, spending goes up, taxes go up, hundreds of thousands of jobs disappear. it's more of the same but worse. in donald trump's america, working families get tax relief. millions of new jobs created, wages go up, small businesses thrive, the american dream achievable. change that makes america great again. >> this ad is called "two americas" which is an interesting play off the original reagan narrative of the shining city on the hill.
how do you feel about this comparison to your candidate, jennifer? >> well, first of all, he's going to detroit, and it is a largely african-american, vastly african-american city. believe me, this is why he's about 1% to 2% in the polls in african-americans. he's painting this dystopian view, and he doesn't have any policies to remedy what he's saying. he's not talking about raising the minimum wage. he's not talking about a living wage. he's not talking about the people who gained access to health care through obamacare, which millions of african-americans did. he's not talking about any specific policies to attract investment and manufacturing in the cities like hillary clinton is. he's not talking about any of those things. and he's certainly not talking about the fact that american unemployment has been cut in half under barack obama and millions and millions of jobs have been created. that commercial is like a totally -- it's the donald trump view of the world but it is not reality. >> look, chris, donald trump in the last poll with the
african-american community had 8%. that's not a great number, but john mccain got 4% and mitt romney got 6%. in the nbc poll, donald trump is getting 8% of the african-american population. he's getting 28% of the hispanic population, outperforming most people who said he wouldn't do well at all. the difference is, right now african-americans have been taken for granted by the democratic party for a long time. i think what you see is they're tired of it. they want a change, and hillary clinton is not doing anything to help them become a better organization -- better in their lives. that's what this is about. >> governor? >> chris, i just want to say, donald trump was i don't know which way on the bailout of the auto industry, but the bailout of the auto industry made it possible for african-american unemployment in michigan to be cut in half. this is why -- i mean, even rick snyder, republican governor, had a statement on friday which completely disagreed with donald trump's vision of detroit. he was suggesting that detroit was a manufacturing wasteland.
detroit has, because of the assistance to the auto industry, because they had record number of cars built, which hugely benefits the african-american community in detroit because they have jobs in those factories, it's as though donald trump doesn't recognize anything like that, that has happened. for the african-american community in detroit, and i hope you send people there on the ground to talk to them, what donald trump is describing is a world that is completely foreign to what people are seeing on the ground. the excitement about detroit coming back. i just think it's not a good strategy for him to be telling the african-american community that they're essentially living in hell when he does not describe the lives of the vast majority of the people who are living in southeast michigan. certainly there are pockets of challenge in detroit. but their situation has improved and not worsened. >> chris, you know this, the governor knows this, the trade deals of the obama administration and the clinton administration have destroyed a lot of our manufacturing base, particularly in the state of michigan. we've seen it time and time again. we've seen what tpp has done. we've seen what nafta has done.
these are policies the clinton and obama administration have supported. donald trump has been very clear, this has been devastating to the economies of places like detroit. his plan is to put americans first. >> one of the things the politicians neglect very often on this issue, and we can end on this point, just get a quick thought from both of you. the trade deals are a problem. losing jobs are a problem. but that was going on before trade deals. it was going on when this economy changed and america did not prepare for the change. it did not change how it trains workers. it did not change how it educates people in general. innovation within manufacturing wound up leaving a lot of these workers with nowhere to turn. we didn't prepare for it as a society. so that matters, that education piece, that training piece. because you can't bring jobs back that people here aren't ready to do. do you think donald trump will speak to that? >> i do, and look, innovation is a huge thing. what used to take ten people to do, a machine can now do by
itself and run 24 hours a day. the difference is, right, we need to be able to compete with other countries. these trade deals that put us at a disadvantage are egregious. they're taking our jobs, taking our manufacture, putting them in mexico, and allowing hem back i country, no tariff. we've seen major manufacturing companies move to mexico because of cheaper wages. that's not right. >> look at the policies hillary clinton has put on. she doesn't disagree the trade agreements have been a problem. that's been a problem for jobs in michigan. that's true. she wants to renegotiate nafta. she's not in favor of tpp. she wants to beef up trade enforcement so our trade partners are not taking us for granted. she wants to invest in research and development. she wants to invest in training to be able to allow people in michigan and other industrial cities to get the training to be able to take on those technology jobs. her policies are very specific. donald trump just makes broad
statements. he doesn't have specific strategies for how he's going to lift people's skills to be able to take on the advanced manufacturing jobs of the future. she does. >> well, governor -- go ahead. we got to go. >> the governor knows this. hillary clinton said tpp was the gold standard for trade deals. >> she's opposed to tpp corey. >> like every other politician, in favor before they're opposed. >> you shouldn't be talking about that this week with your candidate. >> governor, that's why we call the show "new day." every day it's like something new happens on the campaign trail. appreciate the arguments, as always. alisyn? >> chris, is donald trump taking the election seriously? our next guest is not sure. up next, we'll talk to republican congressman carlos cubello, who thinks trump is not in it to win it. i have asthma...
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curbelo. congressman, thanks so much for being here this morning. >> alisyn, good morning from miami. thanks for having me. >> so you told a radio show that you are not convinced that donald trump really wants to win this thing. here's what you said at the time. put trump's recent conduct together with the fact he's a close friend of the clintons, they attended his wedding. donald trump spoke to bill clinton three weeks before launching his campaign. again, i don't have any hard proof, it may be nothing, but is this the conduct of somebody who's trying to win? i just don't see it. do you stand by those comments that you don't think donald trump is trying to win the presidency? >> well, look, alisyn, when i said mr. trump was campaigning in connecticut, a deep blue state that i don't think any republican is going to win any time soon, at least not for the presidency, and the point is that there really habit been a serious discussion of issues in this campaign.
i think any winning candidate is going to talk about the issues that are worrying the american people, whether it's the economy, whether it's the fact that a lot of young people graduate from colleges and universities in this country and can't find quality jobs. all the problems overseas. instead, i think the campaign was embroiled with the khan family and that back and forth. it has been frustrating at timing. >> yes, i understand your frustration, but do you really believe -- if he's not trying to win, what is donald trump doing? >> i don't know. i can't get into his head. i just observe people's conduct and jump to conclusions. now, for sure the campaign has made some improvements in the last couple weeks. i think the change in leadership was very important. some of us had concerns with the previous leadership. what can the country needs, what the american people deserve is a serious discussion about the issues. to be fair, neither candidate is doing that.
every week it's a back and forth on who's more corrupt, who's more dishonest, and that is simply just not good for our country. >> so i know you have said that because of all that, you can't vote for donald trump. would you consider voting for hillary clinton? >> no, look, like most americans, i'm very disappointed with this election. i told a lot of people, don't trust these candidates. well, i'm one of them. my message to the american people is make sure you elect strong representatives in the united states congress because i believe in january of 2017, the role of the congress is going to be more important than ever. i'm willing to work with whoever gets elected, but i'm also willing, and i will, hold either of them accountable. right now i'm not prepared to support either of these two candidates. i think they both have some very serious character flaws. i don't think they're going to be able to improve that situation from now until election day. so what they should do, both of
them, is focus on the issues. let's have a real debate on how we're going to reform higher ed. let's talk about serious immigration solutions. let's talk about how we're going to keep the american people safe and all the instability in the world. that is what the american people deserve to hear over the next 70-plus days. >> do you worry that donald trump will have an effect, a negative effect, on your re-election campaign? >> i think you're going to see record ticket splitting in this election with both of the candidates being so unpopular. they are the number one and number two most unpopular candidates for the presidency in the history of this country, at least since we've been doing polling. so i think you're going to see voters really go down the ballot and choose the best candidate in every single race. i have worked hard for my community in the congress. i have put partisanship aside to try to get things done. and we have had some wins this congress.
the media don't talk about it very often, but, for example, we had a major highway bill pass this congress. that's very important to south florida. we reformed k through 12 education, returned a lot of power back to the states while protecting education as a civil right. so we have gotten things done. those are the types of people that i think increasingly americans are going to turn to it send to congress, people willing to sit at the table, have a discussion, find solutions, and restore the trust and confidence that the american people want to have in their government. >> congressman, very quickly, marco rubio, who of course ran for president himself, republican senator, his primary race is tomorrow. what do you think is going to happen? will he win this primary race? >> oh, yeah. senator rubio has done a wonderful job for our state. he's very popular here. i have worked with him on reforming refugee benefits programs.
we've been working very closely in recent months on this whole zika issue and making sure that the federal government long term funds this response effort, so i'm confident he's going to do very well tomorrow, and i'm confident he's going to win in november as well. he's a very important asset to the people of florida and the united states senate. >> you brought up zika. what are you doing to combat that in your state? >> as far as i'm concerned, alisyn, the number one and number two priorities for congress in september when we reconvene are to fund the government, make sure we don't have any kind of shutdown after september 30th, and also to fund the zika response. zika is not just a public health issue here for the state of florida. it is also an economic issue. we need to make sure that we continue containing this threat so that obviously we protect people's health, especially women who are pregnant or who could become pregnant, but also so that we protect working
families and small businesses in south florida. some parts of our local area down here have already taken a hard hit because of the advisories that the cdc has had to put out. so we want to make sure the government has all the resources at its i did pdisposal to fully this response to zika. >> congressman, thank you for being on "new day." >> thank you, alisyn. >> let's get to chris. all right. they're talking about donald trump. he's going to speak himself. our next guest is questioning trump's sincerity. so will this new outreach to blacks make an impact? let's debate it next.
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nothing means more to me than working to make our party the home of the african-american vote once again. used to be. >> donald trump ramping up his pitch to black voters with a visit to a black church in detroit on saturday. is it too late? only 71 days before the election. some critics question whether he's being sincere. one of them sitting next to me now, congressman gregory meeks. great to have you here. you don't buy it. >> not at all. >> why? >> by his own words, you know, there's no solutions. you look at who he has been, what he has done, the words that he's utilized in this campaign from the very beginning. he is starting out -- when barack obama was elected president, why was he not an american citizen, according to trump? i think because of the color of his skin. >> you think there was a racial component to the birther movement? >> there's no question in my
mind about that. >> what do you think when he swings the stick back and says hillary clinton started the birther movement? do you buy that? >> no, i don't buy it at all. to me, you know, when you see and you hear donald trump, he talks and goes back and forth, he's trying to con people. that's what's happening now. he's a con man. he conned his way to the nomination of the republican party. >> he says the same thing about your party. he says democrats have been in control of these cities. the situations are still unacceptable in so many of them. how do you not hold the democrats to account for what happened and give us a chance instead? >> well, look, let's look at the facts. if you look at the facts and you see the unemployment rates, for example, with african-americans, which is far too high under anybody, but still we've been better under democrats. see, to me, it is an insult to the african-american community saying that we don't know how to vote. when if you look at the african-american community, it always votes its interests. and you can go back from the
'60s when we began to have the right to vote. african-americans voted and votes democrat in this particular instance because democrats have put positions together that support where they want to go. >> but the continuation of despair in inner cities, white, black, green, yellow, people who live in impoverished conditions in inner cities are living in away that is still unacceptable. isn't there something there for donald trump or for the republican party to make some hay out of and say, look, how can we not do better for you than they've done? look at the levels. >> i think what we've got to do, and we need to make sure we do more about poverty in america. you can say the same thing about appalachia, that there's a huge poverty. those are republicans. so the argument would be that then you should not vote for any republicans in appalachia because they have not done anything for them. america has to do a better job on poverty and making sure that we're preparing people for the
economy that we have for today and tomorrow. >> when donald trump says you walk down the street, you get shot in your communities, there's been a real revulsion among democrats when he says that. what is wrong with making a case to african-americans that they should be safer in their own communities, the crime rates are too high, disproportionately high? why does it bother democrats when trump says that about african-americans? >> number one, it's because he is using the typical -- the stereotypical aspect of what african-americans are. and that's why i said he has been playing to the individuals who want the worst out of our society. he's playing to a stereotypical image in a predominantly white audience to say, you come support me because those blacks over in these communities, they are not -- they're lazy and they
are unemployed, they are all criminals. just basically same thing he said about mexicans when he began his campaign in the first place. the same stereotypical types of statements that has come out of his mouth time and time again about whether it's african-americans, whether it's mexicans, whether it's muslims. it's the same thing. >> he swings back by saying hillary clinton called young blacks super predators. now, they just did a fact check online, this independent organization said she was talking about gang members in places like chicago and how they needed to be addressed and she said in context they're super predators. we're not talking about just kids. we're talking about these gang members. why does she take so much heat from african-american leadership, even if your own party, for having said that if she said it in that context and it seems to be what everybody is saying about what's going on in
chicago? >> well, i think that if you take individuals, especially those that were around at that time and living at that time, because a lot of this i think is taken out of context of what was going on at the time. so a lot of -- and i was just having a conversation with someone in the green room because i believe in the black lives matter, the issues they're raising are very important. but many of them were not alive in 1996 or the '90s, living through what was going on then to understand the context of what she was talking about, as many folks in the community. if you talk about chicago, you talk about many folks in the community, they're saying enough is enough. so the new police chief in chicago was saying that he's looking for other ways to try to make sure that some individuals who were continuously committing crimes, that they are not released. we've got to redo and relook at how we're doing things. in donald trump's response, what we've heard thus far, is give
everybody guns. so the answer in chicago is surely not more guns. and if you listen to donald trump, at least from what he's talked about earlier, is everybody should have a gun. so that's not going to be the answer clearly in chicago or any place else. and there's no real solution to policies coming out of donald trump's mouth with reference to hillary clinton, when she was working with the eagle academy to try to make sure young boys are getting a proper education, she's talking about vocational schools to give people skills. there's vast differences between the two, and i think african-americans understand that, and that's why donald trump is at 1%. >> congressman gregory meeks, appreciate you being on the show. alisyn? where is donald trump on deportati deportation? last week he seemed to be softening his stance but he said he wasn't softening. our panel will be looking at what's coming up in his speech.
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donald trump says he'll unveil specific policy proposals for his immigration plan in arizona on wednesday. so will trump's plan include deporting all 11 million undocumented immigrants as he has said in the past, and what about questions on the other side? those questions that are surrounding hi ining hillary cl her family's foundation. let's discuss all of it with our political panel. ladies, great to have you here. >> good morning, alisyn. >> will donald trump clarify his
plan on deportation this wednesday in his speech? >> oh, i think he'll be saying what he's been saying all throughout the primary and since he entered this race, which is there is no amnesty, no one is getting citizenship unless they follow the rule of law and go backseat to mexico first or wherever they come from t and come back in the country the right way. >> so every single one of the 11-plus million undocumented immigrants will have to leave the country? >> in order to get citizenship, absolutely. >> you're putting a caveat in there that he didn't put in there during the primary. he said they all have to go, we'll have a deportation force. he meant deporting all of them, citizenship or no citizenship. does that stand this week? >> what he's said this week is he's listed his priority. with any major policy, you don't get any agenda don't. you set your priorities. he's navigating this like a ceo, which is number one he's going to make sure people follow the rule of law. number two, he's going to put up
a wall, mexico is paying for it. number three, american workers will be prioritized. he's setting priorities. his priorities are those that reflect the voters he's speaking to. >> maria, he has said he's going to do this in a humane way. the word humane was used many times this weekend. what is the humane way to deport people? >> that is the question, alisyn. what does that mean, that there will be cushions on the buses and they'll get milk and cookies on the way to the border? who knows. i am very curious to see what donald trump says in his speech because he has been in a huge conundrum ever since he became this general election candidate when he realized that he needed to get additional support froms had -- from hispanic voters, from women, from moderate republicans. that's why he supposedly talked about softening his stance, which we now see as not really softening his stance. he's going back to his priority of deporting all of the 11 or 12 million undocumented immigrants.
but who knows how he's going to do that. you know, one of the things that i think we should all be very clear about is that donald trump has no idea how immigration law works. he talks about enforcing the existing laws. then he says if people want to get citizenship and get right with the law, they have to go back to their home country, then we'll bring them back in an expedited way. guess what, that doesn't exist. if you are here without documents and you go back to your home country, you cannot do anything for the next ten years. so again, we're talking about a candidate who is clueless on immigration policy. he has his finger up in the wind to make sure he doesn't lose hard core supporters who supported him because of his draconian stance. and he wants to try to attract moderates. it's just not going to happen. >> so i see you shaking your head. can you answer that? what is humane deportation? what would that look like? >> first of all, i think it's inhumane the fact we ignore people who are in mexico and these latin american countries who have relatives here who want
to come into this country, but they can't do so. they're big displaced essentially by illegal imgrants coming into this country. people waiting to go through the process correctly -- and you want to talk about clueless immigration policy, i'm sorry, but we have to go back to the obama administration who last year alone, according to i.c.e., released 20,000 criminals, 200 of which have murder convictions, 800 of which had sexual offenses. that's under this president. hillary clinton will continue those policies p. you guys owe an explanation why a sanctuary city killed a beautiful girl. >> do you want to respond to that? >> yes, i do. she continues to bring up this figure. the fact of the matter is that under both the george w. bush administration and the obama administration, there are some convicted criminals who have been released, but guess why. it is because many of them, most of them, in fact, have actually served their sentence here in the u.s. jails. in addition, many others have been forced or have been granted release by immigration judges and immigration courts. additionally, there are various countries, china, cuba, vietnam,
who don't accept deportation, who don't accept removals back to their own home country. so again, cluelessness what we are really facing in terms of the solutions that are needed. yes, we need more coordination between ice and federal law enforcement and local law enforcement to make sure criminals aren't out on the street, criminals, undocumented immigrants aren't out on the street, but that's not what donald trump talks about. he talks in platitudes, not real solutions. >> ladies, thank you for that debate. i did promise our viewers we'd get to questions still surrounding the clinton foundation. we want to give a lot of time to that, so we'll move that to our 8:00 hour. >> thanks so much, allison. gun violence hits close to home for dwyane wade, who tweeted, "enough is enough," after his cousin was killed, but will his call for help lead to change? next.
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dwyane wade speaking out against gun violence tweeting out enough is enough after another act of violence. two men were charged on sunday. she, dwyane wade's cousin, is one of nine people killed in chicago just this weekend. 40 others have been wounded just this weekend. joining us right now is kenny
williams. he's the executive vice president of the chicago white sox. he's also a friend of dwyane wade and his mother kenny. my condolences to your friend and his family. i'm sorry to have to talk to you under these circumstances. how are they doing, as far as you know? >> well, you know, i have not spoken with either one, but i will say this, the elegance that she has shown, that the family has shown, the forgiveness level is unbelievable, you know, i'm not so sure in the same circumstances that i could be so forgiving, but that's just a testament to the type people you're talking about. for it to happen to this family on the heels of a panel in which we're trying to have discussions to help the cause is just tragic and, you know, a mother -- children are without a mother, and you just -- the pain that i see every monday morning, chris, every monday morning i wake up
in chicago and see the pain on mothers' faces and the statistics come in of how many people have been shot. much less murdered, it's sobering beyond belief. >> it's something even her mother in her time of pain has been very sure to mention, nikia is something that is personal and singular to that family, but she does not represent something unique to the situation in chicago, and you have said that even her death should not be the straw that broke the camel's back. that should have happened long ago. you referenced that 7-year-old boy that died recently, but as we both know, this has been going on for decades. they thought they'd get rid of green and the robert taylor holmes and the gun violence would go away. it's only gotten worse. what do you think the role is for athletes in a situation like this? stars like dwyane wade? >> well, you know, let's take just a step back here, because i
think that there's a role for everyone to play. i think that now that -- it was a courageous act, in my opinion, for those four men, speaking of dwyane wade, chris paul, lebron, and -- >> carmelo. >> it was a great act for them to get up -- carmelo, right -- to get up and express their views at a time we're not used to seeing, so i'm really proud of the young people that are now stepping forward to do that. but in addition to that, i think it's gotten to the point to where the rhetoric is what it is and it has been that. you just referenced, you know, the statistics going back years and years. well, i think now it has come to the place where these cities, you know, especially this city, is starting to recognize that it's a stain on the entire city. it's not just a south side thing, not just a west side thing. it's a city of chicago thing, and there are some great stories
coming out of the city of chicago that -- some superstars that aren't on the athletic field, that are in programs called b.a.m. is one of them, the president served, the owner of the chicago white sox and the bulls did one this saturday talking to young men about how they feel about the whole situation, and some of them expressing it's hard enough for them to walk out of their house and feel safe going to school, much less study when they get there. so these programs and others like them, there's a school called urban prep here, graduates 100% of its students, 100% go on to college. these are getting left behind in the shadows. these stories are not being told because we're so inundated with these monday morning statistics of murder. and i would just love to wake up one morning and feel and hear that no one's been shot, much less killed, but the athlete's role in this, i think, is key
because if you look back for -- to the jackie robinson era, and i'm fortunate to know rachel robinson and sharon robinson, have served on panels with them, and served on panels with martin luther king iii and malcolm x's daughter and one thing is common, common thread here, everyone's tired. and everyone's ready to move on from the rhetoric and move on to actionable things. and actionable things by my standard is a business plan, a citywide business plan that's comprised of kind of a think tank where you incorporate the social aspects of it, the business aspects of it, and merge all of the things, the power, the resources you can to effectively go neighborhood by neighborhood and change the conditions for people. not gentrification. >> that was the mistake, they just moved the poor people out of those big buildings and the gangs went right along with them.
now you have the gangs reached out like tentacles in the communities where they never had access before. kenny, the virtue what you're saying to people, you're speaking to the complexity of the dynamic, not just the violence, it's where the violence comes from and what makes it stop. i'm sure for the family nothing is going to replace who they lost, but this dialogue and any kind of progress at least makes them feel their loss gave birth to something a little bit better. we hope that for the wade family, as we do with all these families that fall victim to this condition that's existed for too long. thank you for having the conversation. let us know how we can help. >> thank you for having me. >> all right, kenny williams. thank you very much. we're following a lot of news. there was chaos and confusion at lax. people running for their lives. what happened? now we know. >> flood of people that came running into the bathroom saying there's a shooter. everyone was in a huge panic.
>> chaos at los angeles international airport following the reports of an active shooter. >> people sprinting the other way, we had no clue what was going on. >> we're going to get rid of these people day one. >> nothing has changed about donald trump's position. >> the policy of hillary clinton have created this high crime and crushing poverty. >> there has been a steady stream of bigotry coming from him. >> we're going to have safe communities again. so you can walk down the street and not be killed and not be shot. >> when will enough be enough? >> these kids are screaming out for help. >> the tragic death of nikea aldridge shining a spotlight on gun violence in chicago. >> heartbreaking. >> good morning, welcome to your "new day." it's monday, august 29th, 8:00 in the east. let's start with the breaking news at lax, there were reports
of an active shooting. passengers just scrambled like you're seeing on your screen right now, some of them ran out on the tarmac after hearing what was described as a loud noise. >> police shut down the airport but found nothing except for a man dressed as zorro carrying a sword, but he was not connected to this security situation. paul is live at lax with the breaking details. what do we know, paul? >> reporter: well, we now know there was some 281 delays all because of this, there were 27 diversions, and there were two flight cancellations on a harrowing night here for passengers at lax and a confusing one at that. chaos overnight at los angeles international airport. >> we just saw people sprinting the other way. . i was in the bathroom and there was a flood of people that ran
into the bathroom saying there was a shooter. everyone was in a huge panic. >> reporter: panicked passengers using emergency exits to get away, some ending up in restricted parts of the airport, leading to a full ground stop of traffic. lax later confirming the source was likely a loud noise. the false alarm causing a ripple effect for travelers, massive gridlock on the freeways leading into lax and passengers back inside the airport now facing delays as airlines work to get things back on track. the scare at lax comes just two weeks after a similar incident caused widespread chaos at new york's jfk airport. both incidents highlighting how on edge travelers are following recent terror attacks abroad. and so where did all of this start? lax is shaped like a horseshoe and at the end of one of the horseshoes, this is terminal 8,
gate 82, united, be on tsa or the security checkpoint, one man said he heard something that sounded like gunfire and they still have no idea what that was that touched all of this off. back to you. >> what a mysterious story, paul, on so many levels. thank you for that reporting. let's get now to the 2016 race. donald trump says he'll give a major speech on immigration on wednesday. still many questions about trump's policy after he softened his signature position of deporting more than 11 million people. trump's campaign also says he'll start taking his message to black voters directly into the inner city. sarah murray is live in washington with more. sarah? >> good morning, allison. the trump campaign wavered on whether to give the speech this week, but now it appears their immigration speech is back on. what we've heard from the last couple of weeks from donald trump is just a softening in the way he talks about immigration policy or whether he's actually backtracking on this pledge to deport millions of undocumented
immigrants living in the u.s.. >> we are going to get rid of the criminals, and it's going to happen within one hour of when i take office, believe me. >> reporter: donald trump announcing he'll deliver a highly anticipated immigration speech wednesday in arizona after all. >> if you want to be here legally, you have to apply to be here legally. >> reporter: the trump campaign insisting the proposal won't amount to amnesty or include a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. >> we all learned to stand in line and wait our turn. >> reporter: as questions mount if trump is softening from the primaries. >> at least 11 million people that came in illegally, they'll go out. >> reporter: even his allies appear unclear on his stance. >> what about the millions in the country right now? >> i think donald trump will articulate what we do with the people that are here -- >> he already has articulated. >> reporter: the gop chairman even saying deporting all 11
million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. is complicated. >> he's reflecting on it and his position is going to be not. >> reporter: this as trump plans a labor day trip to detroit, part of his ongoing effort to woo minority voters. >> african-americans, hispanics, vote for donald trump. what do you have to lose? it can't get any worse. what do you have to lose? >> reporter: the republican nominee sparking controversy over the weekend. for politicizing the death of chicago bulls star dwyane wade's cousin, tweeting, "just what i have been saying, african-americans will vote trump." an hour later, trump offered his condolences. this tweet just the latest example of trump facing criticism for touting his political positions in the wake of tragedies. >> it's horrible. and it's only getting worse. i say, vote for donald trump, i
will fix it. >> as trump continues to blame the democratic party and hillary clinton for minority hardship and racial tension. >> they've run the inner cities for years and look what you have. they are like war zones. >> how quickly people have forgotten that hillary clinton called black youth super predators, remember that? super predators. >> reporter: both trump and clinton's campaigns using opponents' own words against each other. >> what the hell do you have to lose? >> reporter: now, the trump campaign is aiming to keep the pressure on hillary clinton this week. they are going up with a new $10 million ad buy, it's focused on the economy and very critical of clinton. back to you. >> sarah, thanks so much. joining us to discuss trump's pitch to african-american voters and much more, political commentator, cory lewandowski, who is still receiving severance from the trump campaign.
great to have you both here. this coming weekend will be donald trump's first campaign event directly to a black audience. he'll be interviewed by the only african-american owned christian tv network. basel, what do you want to hear from donald trump? >> well w i'd like to hear more than what he tweeted the other day. i found his tweet in the wake of this death to be both insensitive and smack of political hubris. >> let me read it, because he did send out this tweet about dwyane wade's cousin shot and killed. dwyane wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. just what i was saying, african-americans will vote trump. a half an hour later this was sent out, condolences to dwyane wade and his family on the loss of nykea aldridge, they are in my thoughts and prayers. so the second tweet did not, you think, sort of cover up for the first one? >> not at all.
first of all, what i want to say is you have to congratulate the community leaders, the community, and the police officers, who seem to bring the shooters to justice there, to individuals charged. and i think that's an important nuance donald trump doesn't get and needs to get if he's going to make a serious pitch to the african-american community, that you have to engage the issues that are impacting the community. there's a lot of good work being done with community leaders in the fight for a long time, with police officers, with parents, and he doesn't address gun violence, which is endemic in communities of color. instead, he wraps himself in the fight. nra. those are the issues that he needs to address, and if he doesn't do that, i think his pitch to african-american community, 70, 71 days away from the election will ring hollow. >> people are criticizing donald trump because they feel the tweets should have been reversed. his initial reaction should have been sympathy and not exploiting
it for his campaign. >> here's what we know about chicago, in the last 21 hours, 21 people have been shot in the city of chicago. that's insane. this is an american city you can't walk down the streets. we've seen a woman walking down the street with her baby and she's shot and killed. more people killed from 2012 to 2016 than american soldiers died in afghanistan. we need to bring law and order back to our communities. you know what the answer is, more community policing, put more resources in so the people have a right to be safe in their communities. this is leadership at the very top. what that means is meeting with the community leaders, not just the african-american communities, but across the areas where predominantly the democrats have controlled the major cities for 30, 40, 50 years and this type of violence is absolutely unacceptable. >> what i think, cory, and the campaign fails to understand, these conversations have been happening for decades. this is not something that's
new. what is new is that donald trump is going to go to the african-american community, i think he goes to detroit later this week, but is he talking about gun violence in our community? has he gone to an african-american church in harlem? >> basil, he is talking about gun violence, more police, more policing, isn't that the answer? >> the law and order message has particular sigci stigma in our community because a lot of times, especially for someone who used language like trump has used was not about working with community leaders, wasn't about bridging a divide between police officers and the community, it was about more aggressive policing. it was about doing things that fractured the community more than brought it together and that's the fear when he uses language like law and order. >> i think basil will agree, we'll all agree, we want our cities to be safe, whether baltimore, chicago, there's absolutely no reason a woman has to walk down the street and get killed. it's unacceptable.
we need more law and order, more community policing. we need to make sure every community is safe. that starts at the top, local communities have the resources they need to protect our citizens. number one job of our government. >> i want to talk about what's going on with the clinton foundation and the nexus between that and hillary clinton's state department. this weekend, donna brazile, interim head of the dnc was on sunday shows and said no big deal. listen to this. >> this notion that somehow or another someone who is a supporter, somebody who's a donor or activist saying i want access, i want to come into a room and meet people, we all think criminalized behavior that is normal. i don't see what the smoke is. when republicans meet with their donors and supporters, they call it a meeting. when democrats do it, they call it a conflict. >> basil, what do you think about that explanation, all big donors of major foundations expect and meet and greet?
>> it's an interesting comment, because, look, i think if you can't control the behavior of some of the folks that want to get meetings, but what you can do is look at the individuals who were being asked, there is no pay to play, there was no quid pro quo. >> there was access. feels as though they made a big donation and got some access to the secretary of state. >> they didn't necessarily get the outcomes they were looking for. and i think that's the -- >> in terms of policy. >> in terms of policy, but also, i think, it's important to say and i think donna has said this, the foundation did tremendous and still does tremendous, tremendous work. and if you look at the e-mails, if you look at anything that had been discussed around this, there were individuals asking questions, but they were rebuffed. >> that's not true. the head of the rockefeller foundation asked to be seated at the vice president's table in january of 2011. doug band made that request to huma abedin, that request was filled.
>> so you're seated somewhere at a dinner, who cares? >> you know how many people would die for the privilege to have the doesnopportunity to ta him? >> do you know policy was affected? >> power is power. why do they want to meet with secretary clinton? something they want to talk about. moreover, crown prince, also know there was a message relayed in e-mail regarding the ambassador of malta that they want to make sure this message was provided to the ambassador and huma abedin said we'll take care of that. that was done through the foundation, not state department channels. it's inappropriate at best. >> number one in the e-mails there's specific language about them having to go through proper channels, number one. number two, let's talk about the republican platform, for example, that took out language with respect to russia because the former head of the campaign had dealings with russia.
and the ukraine. so that, to me, is a far more clear sort of impact on policy by individuals in positions of power. >> basil, is it inappropriate that there was no firewall, that when hillary clinton went through her nomination process or whatever to become secretary of state, they were very clear, people in congress expressed concerns about that and it was very clear there was going to be a firewall and doesn't seem there was a firewall between the foundation and the state department. >> i think there was an appropriate firewall and if you look at a lot of the reporting and a lot of the folks that have looked at the foundation as a charity and rated it very, very highly, they did a tremendous amount of work, the overhead was pretty much within norm, so the point i'm making is i think there was a very clear firewall. >> you do, even though the e-mails? >> the e-mails state, as i mentioned before, anyone asking a question, there was a response
which was, you have to go through proper channels. >> major media outlets not on the right, the conflict of interest is clearly too high. what they've said is if she's elected president we'll remove ourselves from the foundation. do it now. this is a pay for play scandal. >> can't close it down right away. >> of course you can, sure you can. >> people's lives are at stake. >> merger with the gates foundation, they are doing great work, too. there's too much conflict here and what we know is that they've known about this for a long time, so integrated that it's pay for play. >> thank you very much for your perspectives, great to have you both on. chris? >> chicago's epidemic of gun violence is heading the headlines in a different way because of nba superstar's nba family's loss. two brothers described by police as gang members on parole are charged with the murder. rachel crain is live in chicago with the latest and this is something that is unique, a
celebrity's family member being affected by something that is all too common. >> well, chris, today this family still in mourning. yesterday's nykea's friends and family came together at a beautiful vigil to celebrate her life. i sat down with nykea's mother diane in a powerful interview. >> chicago police say these are the two men responsible for killing a mother of four over the weekend, the brothers charged with first-degree murder. >> when will enough be enough? >> police voicing outrage over the shooters' lengthy rap sheets, saying they are both gang members and convicted felons out on parole. derren, 22, was released from prison just two weeks ago with six felony arrests.
darwin got out of prison in february, serving a sentence for a felony gun charge. caught in a deadly crossfire was 32-year-old nykea aldridge, cousin of chicago bulls superstar dwyane wade. the tragic death in wade's hometown shining a spotlight on chicago's ongoing gun violence epidemic. >> just sat up on a panel yesterday, the undefeated, talking about the violence that's going on within our city, chicago, never knowing that the next day we would be the ones that would be actually living and experiencing it. >> reporter: aldridge was pushing her baby in a shoulder when she was struck in the head and arm by stray bullets. she was on her way to register her older children for school. >> it's just heartbreaking. oh, god, it's heartbreaking. to raise her own children.
>> reporter: but through the pain, her mother had this emotional message for her daughter's killers. >> i truly, truly, from the bottom of my heart, i forgive them. >> reporter: dwyane wade tweeting under th the #enoughisenough, writing, "another act of senseless gun violence. four kids lost their mom for no reason. unreal." just heartbreaking, chris, to hear and see the pain that this mother is going through. really remarkable that despite all that pain, she's still able to send out that message of forgiveness. and unfortunately, this is not the first time that diane has lost a child. she lost her oldest daughter about ten years ago, also to gun violence. allison? >> oh, my gosh, rachel, all is so heartbreaking. to hear her raw emotion there and the first instinct is to forgive them, what can you say?
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donald trump's big speech on immigration is back on. it will be wednesday in arizona. what's he going to say? we have also a new look at trump's big campaign ad out this morning. this is the new wave of the campaign. we'll look at it and discuss its impact. we have two great reporters for you. cnn political reporter sara murray and philip rucker, a political reporter with "the washington post." what an interesting fix the gop finds themselves in, mr. rucker. they now have donald trump saying the kinds of things they wanted him to say about immigration during the primary when he was beating the rest of the field like a pin yat that for expressing weakness on the rounding up of all 11 million. what does he do now? >> well, here's the problem, he's not been consistent all week in what he's saying and this speaks to the tension within his campaign. he has some advisers like rudy
giuliani saying move to the middle, moderate your positions, try to be more compassionate about the documented immigrants. and trump doesn't know what to do. so what he's doing is waffling day by day, hour by hour in public and, you know, hopefully by wednesday with this speech we'll have a clear position from him on immigration and deportation policy, but right now one does not exist in his campaign. >> sara, it's interesting, because it would have been hard to see this coming. a leader often is judged by having his or her own head, and if anything else, he had shown that he does what he wants to do. and now it seems like what is going on? >> well, and it's not abnormal for your typical politician to veer toward the center in a general election, but trump has run on not being your typical politician. he's run on immigration really being the cornerstone of his campaign. it's worth noting he hasn't wavered on his pledge to build the wall.
that's a chance his supporters get the most energized about, but he called for this deportation force, said he was going to get rid of everyone in the country illegally and let the good ones back in. and that's not the kind of thing he's been saying for the last few days, so this is something there are two things you need to watch for, how he's going to deal with the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s., but also remember, chris, he called for an end to birthright citizenship, saying even if you were born in the united states but your parents were undocumented immigrants, you should not be allowed to be a citizen. >> he was also talking about working with them in quotes. what does that mean? something else that is going on in the campaign that's an exercise in clarity is this new ad that donald trump has out. it's called "the two americas." here it is. >> in hillary clinton's america, the middle class gets crushed.
spending goes up. taxes go up. hundreds of thousands of jobs disappear. it's more of the same, but worse. in donald trump's america, working families get tax relief. millions of new jobs created. wages go up. small businesses thrive. the american dream achievable. change that makes america great again. >> i think this is going to be some nine or ten states it's going to run in. it's a $9 or $10 million ad buy, big move for them. phillip rucker, how do you see it? >> it's an effective message and a lot of republicans will tell you if donald trump had been talking about what the ad said all summer long he might be in a better position in the polls now. it's a real contrast with clinton. one thing it's missing is any sense of compassion with donald trump. i'm surprised because he's been obliterated in battleground states all summer long by clinton talking about his tem r temperame temperament, judgment, character, and he's not found a way to respond to that in ads.
so it's interesting. maybe we'll get to that later. >> one thing, one challenge at a time, phillip, one challenge at a time. sara, another problem with the ad, as all ads face, is going to be political fact check. you're going to have a lot of economists who say they believe his plans as thus stated so far will actually take jobs from those communities. >> that's right. there is always going to be this difficulty when it comes to comparing economic policies and there have been a number of economists, both republicans and democrats, who criticized donald trump's economic policies, particularly on trade, saying when you have that sort of protectionist view it's actually worse for american workers, but this is something the republican party has really struggled to convey to their base, part of the reason donald trump rose in the primaries. wasn't just immigration, it was also his message on the economy and on trade. chris, the other thing that's interesting about the ad, it's running in nine different states, but the states include new hampshire, virginia, colorado. these are places where donald
trump is not doing very well at all in the polls. he's trailing hillary clinton by relatively large margins, so that says the trump campaign is not ready at this point to cede any states to clinton. >> strong point. we also see that in his push for african-american access. the margin of victory between romney and obama in big states like florida, ohio, now nevada, which will be a playing field in this race, were often the same margin as the margin difference in the black vote. do you think that's playing into the calculus, phillip rucker? >> yeah, certainly. look, donald trump is trying to improve his numbers with african-american voters. he doesn't really have anywhere to go but up, and we're going to see him over the weekend speak to a black religious audience in detroit and do other events like that. i don't know it's going to work, but the campaign feels if they could make inroads with a couple of percentage points, it could make a difference in a state
like north carolina, which is a key battleground this fall. >> good, smart reporters help us all in the morning. thank you so much. >> dwyane wade's cousin was killed this weekend in chicago and her tragedy is getting a lot of attention, but she's just one of several victims who were killed in a surge of gun violence. a former chicago police officer joins us next to talk about what's fuelling this crisis and what the solutions could be. soon, she'll be binge-studying. now she writes mostly in emoji. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. today, the only spanish words he knows are burrito and enchilada. soon, he'll take notes en espanol. get back to great with the right gear. from the place with the experts. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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deadly shooting of a young mother of four in chicago last week got the media's attention because she was a cousin of dwyane wade. nine people killed and more than 40 others wounded in chicago, so why is this city being plagued by gun violence? we're joined now by dmitry roberts, he's a former chicago police officer. mr. roberts, thanks so much for being here. before you and i start, let's just look at the numbers so that everybody can understand the enormity of the problem in chicago, because the numbers are staggering. i want to pull these up for everyone. last year, 2015, there were
2,988 shooting victims. this year, though it is just a little more than half over, there are already 2,808 shooting victims. meaning, murders are up in that city by 43%. shootings 48%, robberies up 27%, sexual assaults up 20%. what do you think is going on in chicago? >> well, this has been a problem for a very long time, and what we see playing out on the streets of chicago is the fallout of a lack of resources in underserved communities and the lack of focused effort and sustainable solutions from both political leaders, as well as policies that can help to engage these issues at the grassroots level. >> let's talk about those in more specificity, because i know you say lack of resources, meaning what? if there was more money, what would it go to to help stop the violence? >> well, first of all, after school programs, putting kids
into summer employment, and allowing them the opportunity to go from a place where they are hopeless in most cases in these communities, to a place where they can truly understand that their dreams are just as important as the dreams of other members of other communities that do have more resources. >> you also say there's an influx of guns coming into the inner city. where are they coming from? >> well, they are coming from multiple places, and it's the technology that we can roll out and the policies that we can put in place to help stop the influx of guns into the city of chicago and more so the technology that we can use to track things like ammunition and things to track who are purchasing the ammunition, as well as the guns, and getting them into the hands of folks that are doing these very horrible acts. >> what do you mean by technology? >> well, i'll be holding a press conference tomorrow talking about coding ammunition, but that's just one piece of it,
there's also social media, there's also applications that can be rolled out to thoughtfully engage the community and allow them to bridge a better divide and communication between law enforcement agencies, as well as help them to be armed with the information they need to address some of these community issues on their own, and i think that's where we'll have a real opportunity to focus on some solutions when we can arm the community and give them the resources they need to address the tough issues they have to deal with and live with every day in their own space. >> i was interested to read you also blame social media. you think that these shootings are connected to social media. how so? >> well, absolutely. what i know from working in these communities is that there are gang members, there are gang activities at play here, but in a lot of cases, these are social issues that spill over into the communities and because there's no leadership in the communities, there's no programs in the community that can actively engage these young men and women in a positive way and help them to resolve their issues, they take this to the
streets, they lean on violence, and unfortunately, it spills over into issues like we see today and the unfortunate killing and devastation in the communities that plague these areas for way too long. >> so a fight breaks out, say, on twitter or on facebook and then because kids don't have coping skills or, you know, whatever, they haven't learned, they then act it out in real life and violence erupts. so, mr. roberts, what is the answer. i mean, i know you have a multi-tiered approach, but if you could have, you know, sort of one wish granted or a couple, what is the answer to stopping this right now in chicago? >> well, we have to allow cultural competency to be built in these communities that have dealt with these issues for way too long, both in the police agencies, as well as in the communities. and if i had one wish, that would say empower those members of the community, empower me
with the resources necessary to go into these communities, who understand the issues that are there, that have been plaguing these communities for way too long and allow us to go into these communities and engage them with the right level of resources and with the right programs that we can take community members into a place where they want to be. and that is not in the space of violence. they want sustainable jobs, they want solutions, and more so they want to live a healthy, happy life and they want to live out the american dream, just as all of us do. >> of course they do. if people want to learn more about your plan and the resources you're looking for, you are the president and founder of sevenstar consulting and they can check that out online. thank you very much, dimitri roberts. let's go over to chris. >> all right, we're going to see this latest wave of violence in chicago playing out everywhere, even at the vmas. we have a look at the best moments of it and some of the controversial ones, as well. beyonce, rihanna, but also kanye
time now for the five things to know for your new day. first, chaos breaks out at los angeles international airport following reports of an active shooter. police shut down the airport. fortunately, false alarm. donald trump set to deliver a major speech on immigration wednesday in arizona. the trump campaign also says he plans a direct appeal to black voters with events in the inner cities. hillary clinton attending a series of fundraisers as questions swirl about the influence of the clinton foundation. the gop accusing the former secretary of state of engaging in pay to play politics. two brothers described by police as gang members on parole charged in the shooting death of nba superstar dwyane wade's cousin nykea aldridge. she was caught in the crossfire friday as she pushed her baby's stroller. fans of mexican superstar juan gabriel mourning his sudden death. the six-time grammy nominee died
hours before he was supposed to perform in el paso. juan gabriel sold more than 100 million albums in his career. he was just 66 years old. for more on the five things to know for your "new day," go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. all right, guess what, it is time for cnn money now. chief business correspondent christine rowe mamans joins us. what a nice belt. >> thanks, chris. i have a couple important stories for you, not fashion related, i'm afraid. trouble in obamacare, problems shrink i shrinking. fewer insurers could mean higher premiums. insurers say they have been losing money providing insurance to the obamacare exchange. skies open to business for drones now. new faa rules take effect today, drones have to be licensed, can't fly higher than 400 feet,
and must always be an operator to in sight, so don't count on drones delivering packaging any time soon. allison, lovely frock. >> thank you, i appreciate all the fashion talk and it's fitting for the next segment because it's billed as music's most provocative night and very fashion forward, as well, the mtv vmas did not disappoint. we'll show you the best performances and most bizarre moments next.
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entertainment tonight host and contributor nischelle turner, great to see you. >> good morning, guys. >> brian, what was it like to be in the room? >> beyonce really is in a league of her own. i felt the arena, madison square garden, great setting for the event last night. it was a little bit sleepy until beyonce came on. >> did you puff up? did you emulate it? >> brian threw out something. >> i did, threw out something, not sure what yet. she really is extraordinary. you see her, about to whack at the cameraman there, pretend to break the camera, then finished with "lemonade," such a moment of empowerment, 15, 20-minute performance, and it was the standout of the night. >> oh, my gosh, nischelle, tell us. >> hat is on fire. >> she's wearing the hat of flames. >> that's the dance i did when they called me, get up at 4:00 a.m. and get up and talk to me this morning, but brian is right, i was taking notes last
night and what i wrote down, beyonce, beyonce, beyonce, rihanna, beyonce, beyonce, beyonce, and did they give out any awards? that's actually what i wrote down. go ahead. >> i was just going to say, but she also took, you know, her message off the carpet, too, because she made a very political statement when she walked the red carpet before she did any of this and brought the mothers of mike brown, trayvon martin, oscar grant, and eric garner with her on the red carpet, so she's been on this blazing trail she has and coming to her own as a woman. beyonce definitely has a voice we haven't heard from in a long time. >> kanye did his thing last night also, took to the stage and went into -- what's the right word? i guess kind of a rant about what's going on. >> can you find a word for it? >> how did it play there? let's watch it, then we'll discuss it. >> my role models are artists merchants, less than ten that i can name in history.
truman, ford, hughes, disney, jobs, west. but if you think about last week, it was 22 people murdered in chicago. you know, like, people come up to me, like, man, that's right, tell taylor -- bro, like, i love all y'all. >> what was his point exactly, other than pay homage to himself, along with henry ford and steve jobs? >> i reread the transcript but wasn't sure. there were a few hecklers, but he did get his due. instead what they got was sort of a jumble of words. there wasn't actually throughout the whole show sort of dangerous, shocking moment that mtv likes to have happen. a lot of great performances, but no real stunning moment. >> nischelle, what do you make
of that moment by kanye? >> i still don't really get what was going on. you know, he tried to make a couple points about the gun violence in chicago. he came back to it a couple different times, he started talking about where 22 people were murdered last week, then came back he was speaking at the art institute, people were saying my friend died last week, i think i may be next and started to go into a valid point about how it can cause apathy and fatigue and hopelessness, but then again he went on another taylor, kim kardashian west rant, so i really don't know what he was talking about. >> it's too bad, missed opportunity. >> whenever kanye speaks -- >> yeah, absolutely, chris. >> this time last year he announced he was running for president in 2020. didn't bring that up last night, so that's notable, i guess. there weren't political themes besides the gun violence moments you were talking about, nischelle. mostly female performers, many
women of color on stage. >> had fallon, though. fallon injected good levity. >> and nick jonas, but didn't have people wrestling with the tensions of the election. didn't hear about trump and clinton. that was notable, nice break. >> why talk about trump when you have ryan lochte? >> let's watch, ryan lochte, this moment. >> who had the best video of the year? i can't tell you that. they are all so great and so talented, i could never choose. i couldn't tell you even if there was a gun to my head. which there isn't. >> another moment there, nischelle. how did that go over? >> i thought it was fantastic. he had everything down pat, the outfit, the medal, the green/blue, whatever color hair. i think there does need to be levity injected. they had key and peele hosting last night, they were in character for most of it.
i didn't think a lot of that worked. this worked very, very well. jimmy fallon is every man to everyone. he always kills. >> so true. he is so talented. all right, guys, thanks so much for watching. for those who had to go to bed early, glad to see the highlights and lowlights. thanks to see you. thanks to you for watching this morning. "newsroom" with carol costello picks up after this short break.
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happening now in the "newsroom," chaos at one of the nation's busiest airports. passengers at lax running past security and on to the tarmac. all for nothing. plus, trump set to set the record straight on his immigration plan. >> on day one, i'm going to begin swiftly removing criminal illegal immigrants from this country. >> but what about that deportation force? >> he is reflecting on it and his position is going to be known. and more death on the streets of chicago. >> they said they want their mom and their mom won't be in their lives anymore. >> police charge two men in the murder of dwyane wade's cousin. >> when will enough be enough? >> let's