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we're back with bishop wayne jackn, bruce levell, and charles blow. so bishop, you were going to respond -- charles was saying why didn't he do this from the very beginning, reach out to african-americans? only now in the last minutes of the campaign that he needs minority voters that he is reaching out. it is perceived by many who are the ump campai for i tnk > no, . abouthe past at least two months, i know a mth and a half, they have been investigating the impact netrk and myself and people around the country know the integrity. and what i walk in andhat i stand for. i'm not sellg my soul r anybody. i mean, i wa to stand for what's truth. 19 ot nine children and i have
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randchildren. so, u know, i've done my part when god told adam to be fruitful and multiply. i did that part. i kept tt commandment. buwhat i'm saying in essence is this,e got to see the fure of our ildren. you know, i have a campaign going on that states no vote, no voice. and we'rtr to engage people in this voting process because a lot of people are really turned off. >> okay. let ask you this. eaki of this pcess, does it bother you at all the birther movement against the president? the central park five. >> yeah. >> being sued for, you know, unfair housing practices. >> let me -- let me say this. i voted for obama twice. my wife loves president obama. i respect him as a president. i respect him as a husband and a father and, you know, and being an intellectual -- i respect
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him. so, you know -- >> but donald trump -- >> huh? >> but the question was about donald trump. >> okay. you're talking about -- well, i said, just saying this, is that, you know, there's -- in a lot of the african-americans' hearts that feel that, you know, these are things that didn't go well with us. period. because we love our first african-american president and -- >> are you willing to overlook those things from his things he's said? >> i want to engage -- see, we're too emotional and what we're having now, we're having people -- i have people facebooking me, tweeting me, what are you doing, why are you doing this? i feel that if donald trump wants to lay out his policies then we need to engage with him and we need to find out what he's going to do when he -- you know, if he becomes president because one of them going to be president. hillary or mr. trump.
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we better make sure not only donald trump but senator or secretary clinton, you know, give us, you know, some answers because, and, look, under the bill clinton administration, i prospered very well and a lot of people prospered very well. and i'd been to the white house several times when he was president. i'm saying this. this is not about putting donald trump up and putting hillary clinton down. this is about making sure that we are engaging both of them to make sure what's going to happen in our community if one of them becomes president. >> okay, charles, you seem skeptical. go ahead. >> well, no, i mean, this is the thing. he's had a campaign. you've had a chance to do this. and you can't make some sort of false equivalency that they're both kind of the same and that the democrats and republicans are somehow sort of the same and that they're kind of -- we just
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-- there's a pox on both their houses and we just have to figure out which is the less of the evils between the democrats and the republicans. no. there are right now 20-plus states implementing voter restrictions to try to take -- to reduce the number of people who can vote which we know will have a disproportionate impact on poor and minority communities including black people. we know that we have seen over the last, you know, four or five years people around the country trying to implement drug testing for, you know, kind of welfare in states. even though all the research says it's a waste of money that people who receive welfare don't receive it in any -- don't use drugs in any greater number than people who don't. none of that. it is a direct way of appealing to a particular kind of sentiment and people think that more black people are on welfare than other people. these are not the same kinds of parties. these are just --
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>> what specifically does that have to do with trump? >> pretend to pretend that the democrats have failed you and, therefore, you need to turn away from that. it takes away from the fact that -- >> well, they have. >> -- the republicans are actively engaged in trying to take away your rights, actively engaged in trying to suppress you right now. >> specifically to donald trump, how is that -- >> no, he is making two pitches. one is, your life is so horrible that i'm the only person who can fix it. the second is, democratic party has failed you and what do you have to lose by turning to republican party? >> yeah. >> both of those things have enormous problems. enormous problems. >> bruce? >> let me say this now -- >> bishop, can we let bruce just weigh in? >> yes, yes. >> go ahead, bruce. >> well, i just want to clarify some things especially on the birther, i know you don't agree with me on this, don, we've had this before. the birther movement came from the hillary campaign, the whisper in 2007 with biden. >> there's no evidence that is true. every fact check says that's not true.
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i actually asked her about that. >> of course she would say -- >> bruce, i'd like to deal with facts here. there is no correct evidence. we've gone over and over and over this. >> respectfully disagree. >> it was donald trump who -- >> respectfully disagree. >> -- was the author of the birther -- >> i disagree. also in '73 they keep doing the sound bite about unfair housing. there was no merit to that justice deal. also there's no -- "new york times" reported there was no evidence that donald trump was gearing tenants, you know, to and from his places. that's totally false. i wish the left or whoever keep putting the same lie out in front of the american people because it's a lie. >> well, the justice department investigated. it was settled. he promised, he and his father promised to reach out -- >> with no -- >> reach out to -- let me finish then you can get in. >> okay. >> reach out to minority tenants, people who were going to lease in those buildings and
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promised to do so then three years later the justice department says they weren't living up to it. they asked them to do it again, and then there is no evidence as to what happened after that. the trail went cold. >> no evidence of donald trump steering tenants away, being prejudiced over one ethnic group or another. i think that's fair for the american people to understand that donald trump is not like that. so, i just want to clarify that, because i know it keeps coming up. >> thank you, bruce. bishop, will you come back after the meeting? >> yes. let me say one thing. one quick second. i found out that there are some african-americans out there that not vocally saying they're supporting donald trump, but they are. and some of these are pastors and i was surprised by the number of them that's questioning, you know, everything. so, i'm not saying that one person is bad. i'm not going to demonize none
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of them. what we want to do in the impact network, we want to engage both of them to see what's right for our community. >> okay. >> you say you're going to make our community better. let's see how you're going to do it. >> tell your wife i'm sorry for calling you dwayne. i had dwyane wade on the brain. >> i told you i'm going to say a prayer for you tonight. >> thank you very much. come back. charles, bruce, thank you as well. when we come back, the clinton campaign doesn't need -- what it dund need t candidate's right-hand woman, huma abedein said to be furious about her husband anthony wiener. his alleged sexting partner? a trump supporter.
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hillary clinton's right-hand woman, huma abedin, separating from her husband in the wake of his latest sexting scandal, here to discuss mel robins, and scot scot scotty nell hughes. mel, i'm going to start with you. according to two sources, huma abedin was, quote, sickened by this picture. it was on the front page of the "new york post" this morning. what on earth was anthony wiener thinking? >> i'm not sure what he was thinking, but what he was doing was disgusting. you know, look, don, i think the deal here is that this is a guy that's done this not once, which
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cost him his seat in congress, not twice, which cost him his attempt to run for mayor, but three times, which is now finally cost him his marriage. i think he was thinking that he can't stand the fact that his wife is more powerful than he is and that he's going to exert his power in the only way that he has left, which is through these disgusting texts. i mean, the whole thing, it's stranger than fiction, frankly. >> it boggles the mind. i have to ask you as an attorney, do you see any legal issues at play here that he is, you know, in a sexually suggestive photo with his son also in the frame? >> criminally, definitely not, because the child's not in danger and in the state of new york, you've got the -- for there to be the child pornography laws, the child has to be either simulating or engaged in the sex act and clearly the child's not. will he be investigated by child services? probably. but there's no evidence of any endangerment or neglect so i can't imagine this is going to amount to anything legally, don. >> i have to apologize to
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scotty. we were both looking at that picture going, like, what is -- >> does anthony not know the word filter or snap chat? two words that he should have been -- that face alone. how he thought that was sexy in any form, that definitely should be used for an abstinence ad right there. >> trump was asked about the scandal on the radio today, attempting to leak the scandal to, you know, his -- to hillary clinton's right-hand woman and talking about judgment. what do you think? >> well, you know, obviously, professionally, i don't have much to say about huma. personally, my heart goes out for her. this is a hard scandal as a mother and a wife. but we know that the other side, those that are enemies will use any weakness they can find. obviously, we have a big weakness in anthony weiner and so i would hope since huma does have access, being hillary clinton's cloes confidant and friend that they would not use this and down the road if she was elected president and huma had access in the white house, could this be used as blackmail
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material? nobody wants this out there, especially a picture like that out there in the main media and unfortunately, maybe we got lucky and caught this now. >> but he's saying specifically this goes to hillary clinton's judgment to have someone, huma abedin, who's close to her, have a husband like him and she had access to classified information and that somehow he knew about classified information by being the spouse. >> well, huma's been a part of the hillary clinton camp since '94 so there's no evidence that while hillary clinton was secretary of state this might have happened but it might have been a part of those 30,000 e-mails. we don't know. i think we're opening a pandora's box if we start looking into campaign staff and family records. i think we could do a whole network on that. >> now, how does this affect hillary clinton's campaign? and do you think this goes to her judgment? >> absolutely not. i don't think it affects it at all. the only thing that would have affected it is if she had given him a third chance. the fact that she's kicked him to the curb makes it very clear
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that the marriage is over. i think it's ridiculous and a stretch to try to attach any connection to her server to this. it shows that trump is grasping for anything. and there's a lot of desperate guys in this story, don. >> do you think that she is expected to address this sexting scandal? is that a smart move? >> i don't think she should. i think she should do what trump does, which is not talk about the issues that really confront him. i think they should just move on. this is a private issue between those two. weiner's clearly a scum bag, and i think she needs to move on with her life and get this marriage over, put it behind her, it has nothing to do with the campaign and she should keep it that way by not addressing it. >> do you think that she should address this? do you think the clinton campaign should address this? >> on one hand, she could use this as an advantage. she took a lot of flak for sticking by bill clinton so she can say, i see both sides and both stories and it's up to the individual woman who's best for her family so she could use this
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as an opportunity to encourage. but i think this is karma. we were talking about steve bannon and all his personal history and now we've got -- can any of these candidates be, like, original and create their own scandals? >> we talked about steve ban and the domestic thing, once maybe i had one question to kayleigh, even i remember having the question, i'm not sure i asked her about that because it is a personal issue from years ago which he has denied so that's a different thing. but the issue with steve bannon was the whole breitbart thing. but if you were advising a candidate, you would tell them shut up. >> i honestly think this opens up pandora's box. all of these folks don't need to be talking about psychology -- >> you would be like, no way, don't do it. i appreciate it both of you. when we come back, hall of famer isaiah thomas and violence in chicago plus the fire storm over nfl star colin kaep's refusal to
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stand up and he is not the first to protest. listen to tommy smith the olympic gold medallist who raised his fist in protest back in 1968. >> colin, age 28, professional football player, making money very viable in the system is risking his future for something he really booelieved in. ♪ approaching medicare eligibility?
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headline that is becoming unfortunately all too familiar. a deadly weekend in chicago. dozens of shootings. and at least eight people killed. one of them, one of them tragically a young mother. the cousin of nba star dwyane wade. i want to talk about this now with basketball hall of fame, hall of famer isaiah thomas and friend. thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> good to have you. you doing okay? how's your wife, family? >> everybody's good. >> thank you. dwyane wade, good friend of yours. >> yes. >> his cousin, her name is nykea aldridge, mother of four, pushing one of her children in stroller, shot on friday night. killed. how is the family? how is dwyane and the family doing tonight. >> surprisingly they're doing
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quite well in terms of -- i spoke to his agent, henry thomas. dwyane has been on the forefront of this type of movement in terms of police brutality, speaking out against violence in all communities for a long time. he and his mom are pillars in community along with father pfleger. to have this hit so close to home particularly on a night right after we had such a positive coming together and talking in chicago, about police violence, about community violence, about trying to come together. to have this hit so close to home, we all feel for him, but knowing dwyane and his family the way we all do, we know they're going to take this and lead from it and bring our community closer together.
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>> there's a foundation in chicago, i remember years ago right as i was leaving chicago as an anchor there and coming to work with cnn, i emceed one of his foundation events and they do really great work in chicago. it's been a number of years but i do -- you know, we're talking about lives. i'm just -- let me give you some of the numbers here, okay? what makes all of this worse is this tragic shooting this weekend in chicago pd says there were 72 shootings, 8 fatalities and as of midnight sunday, there were 459 murders so far this year. how do we fix this, isaiah? >> you know, there's -- this has been a problem in all communities for a long time, particularly in poverty-stricken communities, and how do we fix it? we always talk about the need for jobs, the need for employment, the need for, you know, adequate food, and just opening up recreation centers where all kids can come and
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play, get to know each other. when you look at the educational system, some of our educational systems in terms of the schools are broken. they need to be fixed. so having access to just quality of life and a lot of our kids in these communities, they're just asking for a chance. they're asking for hope. they're asking to be able to see and live that american dream that we all talk about, and, you know, just to give you an example, my first ten years of life on the west side of chicago, in '66 martin luther king visited chicago and my mom marched with him in the cicero march and '68 martin luther king died, right? the chicago riots break out. i remember we were on congress and hulman. the military tank pulled up on the expressway. we were occupied for two, three days. in '69, hampton got killed.
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those were my first years of life dealing with chicago and the chicago police and policing in that community. so what's happened now, i believe, under superintendent johnson is that, you know, now you're getting feedback. now you're getting community relations. now you're getting people to talk and in this same situation, in this same environment, my brother became a police officer, i got two nephews that are police officers now. so when we -- when the community continues to ask for people who look like us, who grew up in our communities, who can police our communities, then we can start having communication and we can open up the dialogue and when we start opening up the dialogue and people communicate and talk, then we move our country further. >> there's not a lot of that going on lately because even when you want to talk to certain members of law enforcement, they become angry and, you know, defensive and which is just surprising to me especially considering the environment that
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we're in. it would seem like it would be open to suggestion and doing what you said and because of the political environment. here is what republican presidential candidate donald trump tweeted out about nykea aldridge's death. he said "dwyane wade's cousin was shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. just what i have been saying. african-americans will vote trump." i've heard that before from him. from law enforcement. oh, i predicted this. this was -- i knew this was going to happen. you're like, is that how you respond to this? what's your reaction to that? >> we need compassion and leadership in these difficult times, and what -- where we need to go from here is the understanding of family, forgiveness, and also how do we move forward? we don't need to politicize these murders. we don't need to politicize this event. but we do need to show leadership and lead from this in how we bring this country together, in how we keep giving
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people the opportunity to really live this american dream. >> do you think trump can fix this? do you think he's the one to show leadership? >> i see where -- i need to be careful here. >> you're a straight shooter but -- >> i'll be straight, and i don't know if he can. i know hillary's record in terms of what she's been doing in the forefront of african-american issues for a very long time. it's documented. it's there. you can go back and you can look at what she was doing in the '70s, in the '80s, in the '90s, what she was fighting for. trump is new on the scene. we are have to see what he's saying and listen to what he's saying. >> that's a very diplomatic answer but it's real. thank you. always a pleasure. >> always. >> appreciate you coming on. >> thank you.
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>> my regards to your family. thank you. up next, the firestorm over nfl star colin kaepernick's protest. i'm going to talk with one of the men who raised his fist to protest at the mexico city olympics back in 1968.
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quarterback colin kaepernick to sit during the national anthem is one of many moments of personal protests by american athletes over the years. his protest is being compared to this one at the 1968 olympics in mexico city. during the height of the civil rights movement. americans athletes tommy smith and john carlos raising tear black gloved fists as a symbol of black power and human rights. i want to talk about it with tommy smith, olympic gold medalist in the picture. great to have you here tonight. you doing okay? >> i'm doing fine, don. thank you. how are you today? >> i'm doing very well. this very famous photo, you were the gold medallist here, john carlos won the bronze, it was the 200-meter sprint. take a listen to san francisco 49e 49e 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick on sunday. >> i'm going to continue to sit.
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i'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being o proeszed. to me, something has to change. when i feel that flag represents what it's supposed to represent and this country is representing people the way that it's supposed to, i'll stand. this stand wasn't for me. this stand wasn't because i feel like i'm being put down in any kind of way. this is because i'm seeing things happen to people that don't have a voice. it brings awareness. everybody knows what's going on and this sheds more light on it. >> mr. smith, what's your reaction when you see that almost 50 years have passed since the mexico games and black athletes continue to protest similar issues? >> utterly amazing the need to shadow something that came to fruition 48-plus years ago, and young people standing up for the right, for that amendment to continue to move toward a betterment of a society which
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doesn't recognize everyone with parity or equally. and this colin kaepernick, age 28, professional football player, making money, very viable in the system is risking his future for something he really believed in. he said very, very forthright that it's not for me. but it's for those who don't have a platform. my words resonate across the nation to those who don't have a platform that i am standing here in solid darty for you because the need is for all people not just those with money. >> did you feel the same way -- were you worried that you would face this sort of criticism that you did, that you may not have a future as an athlete? because you got a lot of criticism back in 1968. >> well, don, you know, the fight for the olympic project for human rights and what it means started way before 1968. it started early '67 to root the
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need to move forward and we had to encounter abuse from other people, plus the athletes that we were going forward to educate them on why we were doing it. it wasn't a militant move. it wasn't a move of hate, but we thought it was a move to solidify the need for young men, especially black men, to involve themselves in something that's proactive, something that they can feel viable in doing, and i think colin is doing basically the same thing, but the people have changed minds over the years, and are much more degrading when someone stands up, especially in this type of arena to fuse a gap that has been going on for many years. that bridge needed crossing, and i think he's making a step to do that. the man doesn't hate. he's just trying to reveal a need which is viable to move forward. >> let me read this. this is from the 49ers. they released two statements. one of them said, "in respecting
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such american principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose to participate or not in our celebration of the national anthem." my question is, is his protest, do you think it's disrespectful? you think he's doing the right thing, right? >> i believe colin, in his own mind, is doing the right thing for the motivation of people to understand the need for change and i'm very sure that his calling for this particular action using the flag as a demonstration, that that is not relevant to everyone as it is to those who can pay for their idealistic attitudes in this system. he's on the road of the poor people, those who cannot be a talent in the field of communicating a need for parity or equality. he is just -- >> he just has a platform, and to many people, he's the voice -- it have to many people,
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it's not a good platform because it's using red, white, and blue but that is what the mainstream of his moving forward is the country, not a people, but the country for all people. and yes, what he did, it was very controversial. as in '68. but who is going to be responsible for an accurate move toward solidarity unless you are heard? he's heard number one as a football player, number two as a person who cares about the poor. >> we're in this very contentious political season, now coming down to the wire as to who's going to be president and you know that one candidate weighed in today, donald trump. this is kiro radio. listen to this. >> well, i have followed it, and i think it's personally not a good thing. i think it's -- i think it's a terrible thing. and you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him. let him try. it won't happen. >> what's your reaction?
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find another country? >> yeah, well, don can buy -- don can buy a country, so he can talk his trash about someone who's trying to help the poor people and as far as leaving the country, i was told the same thing back in the 1968 olympic games. take this back to africa and we hope the plane crashes on the way. there are still insidious idealist idiots like donald trump who criticize those who are trying to help people who he stomps on. and donald, you know this as well as anyone else. your need is for money and not for the love of people. >> yeah. i want to ask you about this. i want you to take a look at some of the pictures. these are black athletes, protesting, some of them not protesting, lebron james wearing a t-shirt that says, i can't breathe, wnba players in black lives matter t-shirts t st. louis rams protesting the verdict in ferguson, missouri.
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gabby douglas wasn't even protesting. do you think that black athletes face harsher criticism that protest or do things that are perceived as protest wechb when they're not. >> it's a fact that black athletes are looked upon much more harshly than anyone else. people like dwyane, jordan, james, not an athlete but certainly a person who cares about others, that's actor jesse williams. antho anthony irving. we can go on and on about people but look what wr it's coming from. coming from the athletic or the acting world and there's a preponderance of blacks in those situations so when it comes to making a change and moving in another direction, people will always criticize that because we are moving forward. we're the ones being tattered in the system. therefore, we have to speak up in those realms. we can't go where donald go because don't go. he stomps. i realize the attitude of people
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who are sick. they need hospitalization. they don't need to be out talking about the people who are trying to help the american flag move forward. kaepernick is american and he said earlier today, don, that you know, he was adopted. he's biracial. but he understands, because he was raised in the black world. so, he looks the way he looks, but his action reveals a black person who is honestly accountable for where he comes from. >> yeah. >> and i take my hat off to the man. >> and we're fortunate to live in a country where you can protest your government, protest the actions of your government. can i ask you a question? the black glove and socks, where are they now? >> i think my son ate -- my little son who was 6 months old then ate the gloves and i wore the socks that winter because my feet were cold in san jose, and i did not offer my feelings on
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the victory stand because i thought it was going to be a historical moment. i did it because it was from the heart and i thought it was needed for people. the people from which i came needed something to rely on and this is what i did for the heart and not the buck. >> tommy smith, i could talk to you all day but i have to go. thank you so much, sir. >> you're welcome, don. take care of yourself, son. >> you as well. coming up, it's a battle of doctor's notes. donald trump issues a challenge to hillary clinton. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing,
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let's discuss now, is there a double standard when it comes to black athletes speaking out? back with me, symone sanders, kevin madden, john phillips, betsy mccaughey. colin kaepernick said he sat down during the national anthem to draw attention between discrimination and black communities. here it is. >> i mean, i've had times where one of my roommates was moving out of a house in college and because we were the only black people in that neighborhood, the cops got called and all of us had guns drawn on us. i mean, came in the house without knocking, guns drawn on one of my teammates and roommates. so i have experienced it. people close to me have experienced this. this isn't something that's a
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one-off case here, a one-off case there. this has become habitual. it's become a habit. so it's something that needs to be addressed. >> symone, i understand that you're angry that people are even questioning his patriotism. >> yes. you know what, ryan lochte is an international em barsment and nobody questioned his patriotism. protest is part of the american fabric. our country was founded via protest, and he has that -- colin has the absolute right to protest and if this is his form, he should do it. and secondly, i'm glad that he's speaking up and speaking out against what we know is happening in our country. and two, talking about his experiences of racism, his experiences with police officers, because we need to have these candid conversations and folks need to know that this post racial society that people think we live in is not really
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what it is. >> betsy, you say that though he has the right to protest, it's still disrespectful. >> it is his first amendment right. i think the bigger issue here, and it really brings in the tragedy that happened in chicago this week with the shooting of the mother, mother of four children, and the large number of homicides in chicago, baltimore, cincinnati, los angeles, all have seen a huge surge in homicides this year, and it is directly related to the left's attack on policing. and that's what i'm most disturbed about, thevillification of police officers has led to discouraging policing in our inner cities where people need law and order, and one of the reasons i find donald trump's approach on this so promising is he has assured the black community in the inner city that he will support policing, fair policing, but
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adequate policing, and he will use as one of his helpers, one of his advisors, mayor giuliani, who made new york city the safest, largest city in america. happens to be -- >> hold on, hold on. >> don. >> there is -- just so, again, we like facts on this show. people may get upset on it. there is no direct evidence that puts the black lives matter movement into -- >> you're wrong. heather mcdonald at the manhattan institute and others have shown that because of the vilification of blacks, black police officers, black leaders in the police departments have said that police are discouraged from active proactive policing. >> that is an assumption. >> don, i just want to jump in. >> it is not an assumption. it is documented. 30% increase in homicide. >> this is absolutely ridiculous. >> in chicago in year. increase in homicides in cincinnati, los angeles, it's called the ferguson effect and it is well documented by scholars who have looked at it.
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>> can i respond really quick to something that betsy said? no. the movement is not attacking police officers. colin kaepernick's protest is not an attack on police officers. there is a real issues in this country when black and brown people are disproportionately targeted in their own communities. there is a real issue when time after time, the people that are gunned down in the streets are black men and black women. >> they're being gunned down by blacks. >> there's a real issue that we keep call, nykea aldridge, we need to say her name. so, no, colin kaepernick is well within his rights but also is not vilfying police officers. but we have to address police officers that don't. we need to talk about police accountability. >> i would just like to cite the work of professor roland fowler at harvard university, just published a study that demonstrates that police officers are not more likely to
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shoot -- >> we've talked about that study, betsy, on this network, and it is a study that has, by many, is not seen as a legitimate study because of the size. it is a small study, ten police departments around the country. we've done it. >> you can't just name harvard. >> i want you to know. >> we can't just name harvard and pretend that because it's harvard that means it's legitimate. >> we did a town hall on this and all the facts i'm stating are indeed facts, not opinions. go ahead, kevin, please weigh in on this. >> look, i think there are legitimate concerns and criticisms on both sides. i think the question that i'd ask related to colin kaepernick's stance is, and i think sooymone is right, he has the right to express his opinion, that is the american way, just as those that criticize him have the same right. i think the question is whether or not it's going to create a dialogue that is going to help solve some of the problems.
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i think it certainly has elevated the issue, has people talking about it, but is it going to be one that fosters increased cooperation by those with legitimate criticisms on both sides. i hope that's the case. i think a lot of young people look up to cocolin kaepernick's. there are a lot of sports fans that may have been blind to this or they see a very wealthy athlete and think, he shouldn't have any problems, when that's not the case. just because somebody has a bunch of money now and has signed a professional athletics contract to play athletics, doesn't mean that all of a sudden their experiences or some of the problems that they see in the community go away. so, ideally, it will foster more cooperation. >> john, betsy and symone and kevin ate up all your time. quickly if you can. >> i'm surprised that colin doesn't take any opportunity he has to get off the bench and i think if we're going to celebrate the first amendment, his expression of whatever he thinks, it should be across the board. when the dallas cowboys wanted
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to put pads or signs on their uniform in honor of the dallas police officers that were shot and killed, they said, no, we're apolitical. got to let everyone do it. >> thank you all. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. . . .
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